Disco Elysium: Politics and Hypocrisy
Zusammenfassung
TLDRThe video examines the narrative depth and controversy surrounding the game Disco Elysium, highlighting its exploration of complex ideologies and the protagonist's internal conflicts. Set in a dystopian city, the story follows a detective named Harry as he investigates a murder amidst social decay and political unrest. The game is praised for its art style and narrative innovation, using a CRPG format devoid of combat, focusing instead on character interactions and decisions. The narrative delves into the fragmentation of Harry's mind, influenced by competing ideological voices, reflecting larger themes of existentialism and societal collapse. Internal conflicts among the development team further complicate the game's legacy, with its controversial stance on communism igniting debates among players. Despite these issues, the video emphasizes the game's success in storytelling and its invitation for players to explore multiple outcomes and interpretations.
Mitbringsel
- 🎮 Disco Elysium is a narrative-rich CRPG that eschews traditional combat.
- 🔍 The game's story centers on a detective's investigation amidst ideological chaos.
- 🧠 Harry, the protagonist, battles mental illness and memory loss.
- 🗣️ Dialogue and choices drive the game, emphasizing storytelling over action.
- 🖌️ The art style and character depth are notable strengths of Disco Elysium.
- 🗺️ The world is filled with ideological conflicts that mirror real-world issues.
- 💥 The game's political stance, especially on communism, has sparked controversy.
- 📚 The development team's internal struggles add another layer to the game's story.
- 🛠️ Despite controversies, the game is considered a masterpiece in narrative design.
- 🔄 Multiple playthroughs are encouraged due to varied character paths and outcomes.
Zeitleiste
- 00:00:00 - 00:05:00
The speaker discusses the polarizing nature of a particular game they are about to review, explaining that their opinions may go against popular sentiment. They hint at the complexity and unique narrative structure of the game, suggesting it will be an intriguing discussion.
- 00:05:00 - 00:10:00
The speaker provides an overview of the game's setting and mechanics, describing its narrative focus on a troubled detective in a dystopian world. They highlight the rich dialogue, unique moral choices, and the ways the game sets itself apart from other role-playing games. The narrative involves various social and political elements, such as union corruption and political ideologies.
- 00:10:00 - 00:15:00
The summary details how the game garnered attention not only for its innovative gameplay but also for the controversies surrounding its development team. The developers' political comments and subsequent controversies are highlighted, forming a backdrop to the game's intricacies and reception.
- 00:15:00 - 00:20:00
The narrative explores the impact of the developers' controversial political statements and the misconceptions surrounding the game's perceived political biases. It sets the stage for discussing whether these controversies affected perceptions of the game's content and quality.
- 00:20:00 - 00:25:00
The speaker delves into the internal conflicts within the game's development studio and how these affected the game's narrative and its reception by aligning with certain political ideologies. They debunk the myth of the game being heavily biased towards communism and explore the realities behind its creation.
- 00:25:00 - 00:30:00
The discussion continues to unravel the studio's internal issues involving accusations and infighting, which ironically mirror the themes of conflict and ideology within the game itself. This helps the audience grasp the broader context of the game's controversial background.
- 00:30:00 - 00:35:00
As the summary continues, the speaker explains the mechanics of the game, emphasizing its unique focus on dialogue and personal narratives over combat. They discuss the psychological aspect and how player choices impact the story, elucidating the game's experimental nature in the RPG genre.
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The focus shifts to a detailed exploration of the game's protagonist, their mental state, and the complex narrative choices that allow various interpretations and role-play styles, enhancing the game's replayability and depth.
- 00:40:00 - 00:45:00
The narrative delves into the political and social themes within the game, questioning its portrayal of various ideologies. The speaker casts doubt on the notion that it's a eulogy for communism and instead introduces the idea of the game as a critique of ideological extremism.
- 00:45:00 - 00:50:00
The summary moves on to discuss some specific in-game mechanics, highlighting the main character's struggles with identity and ideology. It underscores the game as an exploration of personal and political dynamics rather than a straightforward dictation of ideology.
- 00:50:00 - 00:55:00
The complexities of the game's storyline are further explored, focusing on the implications of various factions and their agendas. It touches on how players navigate these intricate social and political landscapes, making choices that reflect broader narrative themes.
- 00:55:00 - 01:00:00
The controversy regarding the game's portrayal of political ideologies becomes central to this segment, with discussions on how different characters and factions illustrate its thematic depth, depicting harsh realities of ideological fanaticism.
- 01:00:00 - 01:05:00
As the story unfolds, the narrative reveals the game's climax involving political conflict and union corruption. It examines the moral grey areas and the unforeseen repercussions of actions taken by various characters, further enriching the plot's complexity.
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The narrative emphasizes the importance of player choice and the wide-ranging consequences of decisions. It examines how personal choices interweave with political implications, providing a rich tapestry of narrative strands to explore.
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The speaker synthesizes the elements of the story and its characters, painting a portrait of a world fraught with moral ambiguity. It becomes clear that ideological conflict is not the sole focus but rather a backdrop for exploring personal stories.
- 01:15:00 - 01:20:00
Exploring the concept of personal agency, the summary reflects on the narrative's multifaceted nature. It posits that the game is more about individual discovery and understanding within a politically charged world than about taking a political stance.
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The culmination of the narrative journey focuses on the game's deeper philosophical questions about ideology and identity. The social commentary is interwoven with personal tales of redemption and understanding, illustrating the interplay between the personal and the ideological.
- 01:25:00 - 01:30:20
The summary concludes by touching on the real-world impact and reception of the game, alongside the drama surrounding its development. It highlights both the critical acclaim and the contentious debates the game provoked within the gaming community.
Mind Map
Häufig gestellte Fragen
What game is being discussed in the video?
The game discussed is Disco Elysium.
What are the main themes of Disco Elysium?
The main themes include the effects of ideology, mental illness, and personal struggle.
How does the video describe the gameplay of Disco Elysium?
The video describes Disco Elysium as a narrative-driven CRPG without traditional combat, focusing on dialogue and character interactions.
What controversy is associated with the developers of Disco Elysium?
The developers faced controversy due to their internal disputes, a hostile takeover, and political opinions expressed during award speeches.
What is the main storyline of Disco Elysium?
The storyline revolves around a detective, Harry, solving a murder in a city plagued by failed ideologies and crime.
How does the video view communism in Disco Elysium?
The video criticizes communism as being portrayed negatively in the game, showing its failures and hypocrisy.
What is the primary challenge for the protagonist, Harry?
Harry struggles with mental health issues, memory loss, and balancing personal and investigative challenges.
What impact do ideologies have on the game's world and characters?
Ideologies lead to conflict and personal downfall, highlighting their destructive nature.
How did the developers' personal politics influence the game?
The developers infused their leftist views into the game, but internal conflicts revealed broader issues.
What was the public's reaction to the developers' award speech?
The public had mixed reactions, with some fans alienated by the developers' praise for communism and Marxism.
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- 00:02:04trying to pull him away from his job and
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- 00:02:07this and find the truth behind what's
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- 00:02:14glorified gangsters a corporate
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- 00:02:17control of a pissed-off mercenary death
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- 00:02:31style the writing having extremely
- 00:02:33fleshed out characters that all have
- 00:02:34different layers to who they are as
- 00:02:35individuals an art direction that really
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- 00:02:39your brain for a very long time as well
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- 00:02:59complely shift your perspective on a
- 00:03:01character or an event hell some of the
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- 00:03:04sequence break large chunks of the game
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- 00:03:08can beat disum in less than 10 hours
- 00:03:10there's only a few Cannon events you
- 00:03:12need to do in order to reach the ending
- 00:03:14you're not encouraged to do this since
- 00:03:16you need larger contexts to tie
- 00:03:18everything together and you can miss out
- 00:03:19on massive reveals or story threads
- 00:03:21because you rush through things but you
- 00:03:22are allowed to do it and if you know
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- 00:03:25investigation or not you'll get an
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- 00:03:29regardless don't rush things you have a
- 00:03:31lot more time than you think you do the
- 00:03:33maximum amount of days that can pass in
- 00:03:35game are about 10 I don't know if it
- 00:03:37goes any further than that that's just
- 00:03:39what I've heard and I've never needed to
- 00:03:40go that far and usually beat the game in
- 00:03:42about 5 days or so this most recent
- 00:03:44playthrough for the video took me about
- 00:03:458 but there's a reason for that I'll
- 00:03:47talk about later all you have to know
- 00:03:48for now is that disco elium was the
- 00:03:50brainchild of Studio zom a collection of
- 00:03:52estonians who moved to England with a
- 00:03:54grand idea in their brain to pitch their
- 00:03:55idea for a massive tabletop RPG world
- 00:03:57with a video game disco leum now a lot
- 00:03:59of this feels kind of weird to talk
- 00:04:01about since disco elium became a
- 00:04:03massively talked about game not just for
- 00:04:04the critical claim going down as one of
- 00:04:06the greatest CR RPGs ever made but also
- 00:04:08the shenanigans the developers got
- 00:04:10themselves into none of which exactly
- 00:04:12positive yeah disco elesium is a game
- 00:04:14mired by controversy more than one for
- 00:04:17one when the game won an award during
- 00:04:19the 2019 game awards one of the writers
- 00:04:22Helen hipar hind Perry however the [ __ ]
- 00:04:25you say your name took time to thank
- 00:04:27Carl Marx and Frederick Eng Les during
- 00:04:29the speech so um we like to thank all
- 00:04:32the great people that came before
- 00:04:37usin epin Vladimir
- 00:04:40makovski Victor
- 00:04:43toy and marks and Angel for providing us
- 00:04:46the political education thank you
- 00:04:48something that game journals loved when
- 00:04:50they weren't busy covering up sexual
- 00:04:52abuse at Blizzard or putting on bug
- 00:04:53teeth and squinting eyes for Persona
- 00:04:55[Music]
- 00:04:58reviews
- 00:05:00it is time of
- 00:05:03G this would still be funny if the
- 00:05:07people involved didn't start calling
- 00:05:09their own audience racist 10 years later
- 00:05:11or if Japanese developers didn't come
- 00:05:13out and admitted they felt sabotaged in
- 00:05:16the Western Market uh by journalists
- 00:05:19pushing the Japan is so weird talking
- 00:05:23point series like Xeno Blade still
- 00:05:25receive criticism for being too Japanese
- 00:05:28which is a completely insane standard
- 00:05:30that the general public is only now
- 00:05:32realizing as proof the side calling
- 00:05:34Gamers bigots were themselves over the
- 00:05:37top parities of human beings this whole
- 00:05:39time but the rest of the audience took
- 00:05:41that as a sign that the game was
- 00:05:42blatantly biased towards communism and
- 00:05:44Marxism something I believed for years
- 00:05:47until a friend insisted I actually sit
- 00:05:48down and play it and there's still a
- 00:05:50very large chunk of people that actively
- 00:05:52refuse to play Disco elesium because of
- 00:05:53this stunt something you can't really
- 00:05:55blame them for it's essentially telling
- 00:05:57a Jew to sit down and play a video game
- 00:05:59after one of the developers made a
- 00:06:00speech praising Adolf Hitler shocker
- 00:06:02some parts of the world had very bad
- 00:06:04experiences with Marxism and communism
- 00:06:06which is especially ironic concerning
- 00:06:07the dev team's Heritage Estonia was not
- 00:06:10treated well by the Soviets under any
- 00:06:11definition a sentiment that does slip
- 00:06:13into the game on more than a few
- 00:06:15occasions but we're going to talk about
- 00:06:16that towards the end there's a reason
- 00:06:18you can't wear a CH Vera shirt in
- 00:06:19certain neighborhoods in Miami just to
- 00:06:21put it lightly socially it may not be on
- 00:06:23the same level but there are people that
- 00:06:24view communism and its symbols as bad
- 00:06:26memories of famines death squads and
- 00:06:29oppression to them the Nazis and the
- 00:06:30Soviets were the same people just one
- 00:06:32was to the East and the other was to the
- 00:06:34West I mention all of this because this
- 00:06:35really painted the game in a much more
- 00:06:37different light than it really should
- 00:06:39have been to the point that it's
- 00:06:40completely tainted any ability to talk
- 00:06:42about the game objectively and led to
- 00:06:43some urban legends and outright scary
- 00:06:45misinterpretations of story elements
- 00:06:47something that can be very revealing
- 00:06:49about the person who sees it that way
- 00:06:51and the best part is how much of this is
- 00:06:53rendered ironic by the eventual closure
- 00:06:55of Studio Zam conquered by their
- 00:06:56publisher and a hostile takeover all the
- 00:06:58Developers fired and the lead developer
- 00:07:01outright locked in an insane asylum no
- 00:07:03I'm not kidding for a while nobody has
- 00:07:05any clue what happened they assumed it
- 00:07:07was a situation very common in gaming a
- 00:07:09gritty publisher wanted a bigger slice
- 00:07:10of the pie so they [ __ ] the people
- 00:07:12over something actually kind of fitting
- 00:07:14considering the supposed communist
- 00:07:15sympathies in the game but that's not
- 00:07:17what happened at least not fully a
- 00:07:18documentary by the Channel people make
- 00:07:20games was released with the intention of
- 00:07:21digging into what killed Studio zom and
- 00:07:24some of the reveals were extremely
- 00:07:26interesting I highly recommend you all
- 00:07:27sit down to watch this documentary it's
- 00:07:29really really really revealing about the
- 00:07:31actual personalities involved with disco
- 00:07:32elesium and still something that fits
- 00:07:34the game like a glove just not the way
- 00:07:36the Communists think to the point they
- 00:07:37have had some seriously pathetic
- 00:07:39attempts to debunk the documentary even
- 00:07:41though there are word forword emails and
- 00:07:44transcripts and interviews that really
- 00:07:46don't paint them as anything other than
- 00:07:47insane you see the dev team wasn't
- 00:07:50actually that political they were left
- 00:07:52leaning sure I mean they were European
- 00:07:53by American Standards everyone on that
- 00:07:55continent a lefty but by no means were
- 00:07:56they all singing solidarity forever
- 00:07:58during meetings in fact there were
- 00:08:00shitloads of infighting with a Project
- 00:08:01Lead himself the creator of disco lum's
- 00:08:03World being painted as an egotistical
- 00:08:05hypocritical pretentious Thief preaching
- 00:08:07about the values of Marxism all while
- 00:08:09refusing to do any work and outright
- 00:08:11stealing credit for things other members
- 00:08:13on the team did to the point his best
- 00:08:14friend one of the lead writers for the
- 00:08:16game admitted that he really should have
- 00:08:17been fired for what he did and this is
- 00:08:19on top of downright Shady events that
- 00:08:20happened with the Studio's money just
- 00:08:22before the the game came out that that
- 00:08:25includes a line from Robert estimating
- 00:08:26that he individually is responsible for
- 00:08:28about half of the game's total word
- 00:08:30count um I don't think that's true yeah
- 00:08:34I I there was also a claim that Robert
- 00:08:37rosov and Helen had had kind of checked
- 00:08:39out of their responsibility well not
- 00:08:41kind of the language is pretty is pretty
- 00:08:43direct that they'd stopped working for
- 00:08:46almost two years while still being paid
- 00:08:48at the studio I had someone who is on
- 00:08:49the writing team who continued to work
- 00:08:51on final CS um does that sound fair what
- 00:08:54was your read on on on that I'd say
- 00:08:57that's semi Fair because uh yes after
- 00:09:00the after released we released disco on
- 00:09:0215th October 2019 after that the first
- 00:09:06three four months were complete hangover
- 00:09:10like uh everybody was so tired from I
- 00:09:12think at some point Robert was supposed
- 00:09:14to start pre-production or like at least
- 00:09:17concepting of on on the
- 00:09:20sequel and uh in some in some degree he
- 00:09:24definitely did that he wrote like a
- 00:09:25bunch of new
- 00:09:26skills uh but did like you it's it's
- 00:09:30it's a thing where you can't say that uh
- 00:09:33no work was was was done that that would
- 00:09:34be that would be false some work would
- 00:09:37was done but uh the question is like is
- 00:09:41it is it is it the acceptable acceptable
- 00:09:44amount because like especi especially if
- 00:09:47you look at it from some with Through
- 00:09:49The Eyes of someone outside the riding
- 00:09:51team then it might look absurd like it
- 00:09:53might say might look that guys this year
- 00:09:55it's been years and you haven't done
- 00:09:56anything aate you guys really need to
- 00:09:58sit down and watch documentary it says a
- 00:10:00lot about the dev team and there are
- 00:10:02true stances on things something that is
- 00:10:04just beautifully ironic considering the
- 00:10:06game and the reputation it's built over
- 00:10:08the years the best part of the whole
- 00:10:10situation is the fact coritz was accused
- 00:10:15of employee abuse and outright
- 00:10:18conspiring to steal the source code for
- 00:10:20disco elesium with the intention of
- 00:10:23keeping it Hostage to get Petty
- 00:10:24Vengeance against other members in the
- 00:10:27company and a sense of ownership seeing
- 00:10:31himself as the only true owner of the IP
- 00:10:35despite being an avowed communist
- 00:10:38meaning by his own philosophy the IP no
- 00:10:41longer belongs to him alone and instead
- 00:10:45belongs to everyone he even wrote an
- 00:10:49entire novel all about his love of
- 00:10:51Communism ideology trying to force it uh
- 00:10:54into the cannon of the game uh despite
- 00:10:57it causing major plot holes and dumbing
- 00:10:59the story down to be the exact opposite
- 00:11:02of what was intended turning a game
- 00:11:04about the dangers of ideology and
- 00:11:06extremism and to all about how everyone
- 00:11:09just isn't loyal enough to the political
- 00:11:11route curve its likes the most making it
- 00:11:15into a literal magic deos exmachina if
- 00:11:19you just listen to the Zeitgeist about
- 00:11:21disco elesium you'd think it's some
- 00:11:22pretentious Chinese room Style Walking
- 00:11:24simulator a masturbatory exploration of
- 00:11:26why communism is so great and never
- 00:11:28killed any bu and everything is the
- 00:11:30capitalist fault in truth no disco
- 00:11:32elesium is not like that at all in fact
- 00:11:34knowing about the infighting in the
- 00:11:35studio makes certain moments and
- 00:11:37characters all the more enlightening
- 00:11:39especially about the philosophy they're
- 00:11:40supposedly so in love with but I'll talk
- 00:11:41about all this later for now let's just
- 00:11:43give a basic introduction to what it's
- 00:11:44like to play Disco elium you have the
- 00:11:46very basic mechanics dialog trees that
- 00:11:48lead to deeper trees a clothing system
- 00:11:50that only really works to add modifiers
- 00:11:52to your various stats a Stat system that
- 00:11:54affects different ways that protagonists
- 00:11:55can approach the investigation and not
- 00:11:57just basic stuff like strength charisma
- 00:11:59intelligence no these are all different
- 00:12:00aspects of his personality his
- 00:12:02aggression impulse control addictive
- 00:12:04personality traits empathy for others
- 00:12:06it's a much more psychological profile
- 00:12:07than a dndd style stat breakdown each of
- 00:12:10the stats even has flavor text
- 00:12:12describing how specking into each trait
- 00:12:13affects Harry how they impact his body
- 00:12:15and mind and possible roleplay options
- 00:12:17you can make a Jack Reacher style Harry
- 00:12:19someone intelligent and strong but has
- 00:12:21trouble interacting with human beings on
- 00:12:23the other hand you have options for a
- 00:12:24Steve Bru hary not very smart not very
- 00:12:27charismatic but he stumbles into
- 00:12:28outright other worldly events that's
- 00:12:30something to mention for later by the
- 00:12:31way you can go full Sherlock Holmes
- 00:12:33cocaine addiction and all Miami Vice
- 00:12:34style super cop or just a complete [ __ ]
- 00:12:36up and sleep outside cuz you waste all
- 00:12:38your money on booze hell you can't even
- 00:12:40edit your save file to max out all
- 00:12:41traits and this is actually a play style
- 00:12:43the game addresses it's not just some
- 00:12:45God playthrough it has its own set of
- 00:12:47drawbacks constantly barraged by skill
- 00:12:49checks since there are tons of dice
- 00:12:51rolls the game doesn't even tell you
- 00:12:52about rolling in the background it's
- 00:12:54essentially a schizophrenia simulator
- 00:12:55dealing with the endless voices in your
- 00:12:57head telling you to do things because
- 00:12:58because these aren't just advisers
- 00:13:00offering their own solution to a
- 00:13:01situation they have their own share of
- 00:13:02biases and bad [ __ ] ideas to the
- 00:13:05point they can get downright scary you
- 00:13:07get the point disco elesium is very
- 00:13:09unique in how it tackles role playing
- 00:13:10but you might have noticed there's a
- 00:13:11certain mechanic I haven't talked about
- 00:13:13yet combat that's because there is none
- 00:13:15instead of doing something like Fallout
- 00:13:17or Arcanum where they have clunky simple
- 00:13:19combat systems that completely rely on
- 00:13:20dice rolls disco elium just rips them
- 00:13:22out it's essentially a visual novel The
- 00:13:24only combat you get are dice rolls for
- 00:13:26specific choices and they act more like
- 00:13:28story moments than anything personally I
- 00:13:30think that's fine a lot of crpgs
- 00:13:32struggle with balancing their combat and
- 00:13:34usually are super clunky and easy to
- 00:13:36break or have insane difficulty spikes
- 00:13:38you can tell a lot of crpg see combat as
- 00:13:40an afterthought and want to focus more
- 00:13:42on dialogue and Story the larger World
- 00:13:44building PL Escape tornament has a
- 00:13:46really small amount of combat to it and
- 00:13:47focuses much more on dialogue puzzles
- 00:13:50and learning about the setting than
- 00:13:51anything else of course you also have
- 00:13:52games like divinity and boulders Gate 3
- 00:13:54which have fleshed out combat systems
- 00:13:56that are fun to interact with so it's
- 00:13:58not like you have to to choose between
- 00:13:59combat or story also a lot of jrpgs also
- 00:14:02manag to have good stories and really
- 00:14:03fun combat systems cenal blade Final
- 00:14:06Fantasy Persona stuff like that but
- 00:14:07disco elesium does make the choice and
- 00:14:09dedicates fully to being a story game
- 00:14:11everything you do in some way revolves
- 00:14:13around various conversations you have
- 00:14:14with characters in the game whether it
- 00:14:16unlocks more dialogue options applies
- 00:14:18modifier to dice rolls or reveals a
- 00:14:19character is lying to you this is a
- 00:14:21walking and talking game something that
- 00:14:23hinges on the writing if it can't grip
- 00:14:24you then this is just a pretentious drek
- 00:14:27of a game sucking up to games journalist
- 00:14:29the feeble tantrum of the games are art
- 00:14:30crowd you're not completely wrong but at
- 00:14:32the same time disco elesium does have
- 00:14:34some really good writing the story is
- 00:14:36very engaging with a lot of mystery and
- 00:14:37twists and layers to its themes that
- 00:14:39allow the player to come to their own
- 00:14:40conclusions on the story it's a Fearless
- 00:14:43game being very upfront about what it's
- 00:14:44saying and willing to put forth ideas
- 00:14:46that no corporate game would ever
- 00:14:47attempt in a million years the
- 00:14:49characters can be likable hatable they
- 00:14:51can annoy the piss out of you or they
- 00:14:52can send to chill up your spine but at
- 00:14:54the end of the day they are memorable
- 00:14:56they focused 100% on the story and
- 00:14:57managed to live up to the that idea it's
- 00:14:59a good story to put it simply and you
- 00:15:01can tell you're in for something special
- 00:15:03just from the intro now before we get
- 00:15:05any further I'm putting up a spoiler
- 00:15:07warning for Disco elesium This is a
- 00:15:09mystery game all focusing on a central
- 00:15:11crime please sit down and play Disco
- 00:15:13elium before going any further there's
- 00:15:15so much to the game that you'd be
- 00:15:16missing on the entire point of a
- 00:15:18detective game just from having the plot
- 00:15:20spoonfed to you you won't regret it plus
- 00:15:22you can develop your own interpretation
- 00:15:24of the game so don't let me spoil what
- 00:15:26could potentially be something
- 00:15:27completely different to
- 00:15:29you [ __ ] you so the actual plot of disco
- 00:15:33Lum is really simple a mercenary acting
- 00:15:35as a security guard was murdered in the
- 00:15:37downtrodden city of reval lynched up in
- 00:15:39a tree and left a rot by some more
- 00:15:41militant members of a union The Hardy
- 00:15:43Boys Harry Dubois the protagonist
- 00:15:45arrives for reval to investigate he's a
- 00:15:47highly decorated officer with hundreds
- 00:15:49of solved cases under his belt so it
- 00:15:50seems like this is a no-brainer he can
- 00:15:52solve in a weekend except Harry has had
- 00:15:54a few bad days for 6 years straight
- 00:15:57unable to get over a nasty break up with
- 00:15:59his fiance and dealing with growing
- 00:16:00burnout at the same time Harry suffers a
- 00:16:03complete mental breakdown going on a
- 00:16:05massive Bender attempting suicide more
- 00:16:07than once and eventually drinking so
- 00:16:09hard he develops complete Amnesia not
- 00:16:11just that he forgets who he is as a
- 00:16:12person but he forgot all of reality he
- 00:16:15doesn't know where he is what anything
- 00:16:17is and now has to solve the case with
- 00:16:18his partner Kim karagi who is basically
- 00:16:21just forced to play babysitter to
- 00:16:22rambling madman Harry his left ass so
- 00:16:25right from the get-go disco elesium sets
- 00:16:27itself up to be a very interesting
- 00:16:28mystery the game revolves not just
- 00:16:30around dealing with the various factions
- 00:16:32of revisal but Harry's psychology there
- 00:16:34is a reason the various voices in
- 00:16:35Harry's head are such a prevalent entity
- 00:16:37in the game because they're the ruins of
- 00:16:39Harry's mind scrambling to take control
- 00:16:41of him noway is completely amnesic and
- 00:16:43depending on which one you listen to
- 00:16:44Harry can become all sorts of an
- 00:16:46individual not just politically which is
- 00:16:47what everyone focuses on but just who he
- 00:16:49is as a man you can become convinced
- 00:16:51that the world is ending and he's a
- 00:16:52prophet sent to warn Humanity if it's
- 00:16:54coming demise he can think he's a
- 00:16:56fictional super detective in the books
- 00:16:57written about the character are
- 00:16:59Chronicles of his adventures a psychic
- 00:17:01cop part of the remote viewers division
- 00:17:03it's totes a real thing promise an
- 00:17:04artist desperate to paint his
- 00:17:05Masterpiece or just a guy who finally
- 00:17:07gets his [ __ ] together and does his
- 00:17:08[ __ ] job disco elium has a lot of
- 00:17:10options and you can mix and match all of
- 00:17:12these picking one road doesn't
- 00:17:13necessarily lock you out of others in
- 00:17:15fact there's some pretty hilarious
- 00:17:16scenes when you throw two contradicting
- 00:17:18philosophies together disco elium as a
- 00:17:20good finger on the pulse of what players
- 00:17:21want to see and as a result you get
- 00:17:23hundreds of hours of replayability it's
- 00:17:25not possible to see everything in a
- 00:17:27single playthrough you can get quite a
- 00:17:29bit but specific roots and their ending
- 00:17:31require commitment this is on top of the
- 00:17:33fact that with passive dice rolls you
- 00:17:35can end up going through playthroughs
- 00:17:36that all feel distinct from each other
- 00:17:37that's not to say the game is infinite
- 00:17:39not at all but you will see things
- 00:17:41differently in each playthrough so don't
- 00:17:42be afraid to get creative this is a game
- 00:17:44all about expression how you express
- 00:17:46yourself in the game and how you solve
- 00:17:48the mystery Harry in particular is one
- 00:17:50of the best compromises between the two
- 00:17:52styles of an RPG protagonist I've talked
- 00:17:54about this before but RPGs tend to fall
- 00:17:56into two archetypes with their
- 00:17:57protagonists pre-written characters with
- 00:17:59a set backstory and you make choices
- 00:18:01that are essentially in character to who
- 00:18:03they are as an individual in the world
- 00:18:04or complete blank slates that you fully
- 00:18:06imprint onto and choose every detail of
- 00:18:08who they are it's essentially the
- 00:18:10difference between something like
- 00:18:11Fallout New Vegas or Boulders Gate 3 and
- 00:18:14Dex or Mass Effect disco elesium is
- 00:18:16actually a balance of these two Harry is
- 00:18:18a pre-written character he has a setback
- 00:18:20story and history in the story but at
- 00:18:22the same time he is completely open to
- 00:18:25you to roleplay you can choose every
- 00:18:27detail of his personal it but his
- 00:18:29beliefs his politics even some details
- 00:18:31you wouldn't see coming are you can't
- 00:18:33play as anyone except Harry but the
- 00:18:34options you have as Harry are almost
- 00:18:36infinite you can imprint whatever you
- 00:18:38want onto him and interpret who exactly
- 00:18:40he is as a man how you see fit it's one
- 00:18:42of the best aspects of the game coming
- 00:18:44up with your own version of Harry and
- 00:18:45seeing it through to the end personally
- 00:18:47I love the psychic cop rout specking
- 00:18:49into the supernatural skills and having
- 00:18:51Harry be the skitso that can talk to the
- 00:18:52city everyone else calls him crazy on
- 00:18:54some level Harry himself thinks he's
- 00:18:56crazy at the end of the day he's capable
- 00:18:58of things no one can explain rationally
- 00:19:00it's great especially when you learn
- 00:19:01about certain aspects of the setting
- 00:19:02that show that he may not be completely
- 00:19:04wrong still this is just what I like for
- 00:19:06my playthroughs others have their own
- 00:19:07Styles and they can be just as engaging
- 00:19:10and you might stumble into your own
- 00:19:11details that I didn't see because I just
- 00:19:13didn't get the rolls for it that's not
- 00:19:14to say disco elium is going to be
- 00:19:16completely different game each time you
- 00:19:17play more that it's going to help show
- 00:19:19different sides to different people some
- 00:19:20people view this game as a biting satire
- 00:19:22to ideology and politics as a whole
- 00:19:24others think it's just a Shameless Love
- 00:19:26Letter to Communism and condemning the
- 00:19:27fact human natur leads to its failure
- 00:19:29others just want to talk to a stick buug
- 00:19:31who is a very good boy the whole point
- 00:19:32and how I see the game as a whole is
- 00:19:34this disco elium is a ro Shack test
- 00:19:36depending on how you interpret elements
- 00:19:38of the game and how you view the story
- 00:19:39it can reveal a lot about the individual
- 00:19:41playing it the Fallout New Vegas
- 00:19:42comparison from earlier extends to more
- 00:19:44than just gameplay New Vegas handles its
- 00:19:46story in a very similar way to the point
- 00:19:48I wouldn't be surprised if the
- 00:19:49developers took some inspiration for
- 00:19:51disco elesium I mean playing an amnesiac
- 00:19:53waking up in the middle of a tense
- 00:19:54political struggle and Brewing war is a
- 00:19:56little too close not to mention and just
- 00:19:58like New Vegas it sets up each faction
- 00:20:00with its own history and culture the ups
- 00:20:02and downs some representatives of the
- 00:20:04ideology and some role in the plot some
- 00:20:06larger than others once again this is
- 00:20:08why you want to explore round because
- 00:20:09you'd be surprised how crucial certain
- 00:20:11characters were to the whole puzzle
- 00:20:12disco Alum manches to show each ideology
- 00:20:15pretty fairly sure you can argue that
- 00:20:16some get more [ __ ] than others I mean
- 00:20:18fascism is a complete [ __ ] Post run but
- 00:20:20you kind of go in knowing that it's
- 00:20:22funny as hell watching Harry blame
- 00:20:23literally every problem in rubish all on
- 00:20:25foreigners especially since if you want
- 00:20:26to get technical he's not completely
- 00:20:27wrong I mean the Coalition are
- 00:20:29technically a collection of foreigners
- 00:20:31but the point is that there's joke runs
- 00:20:32and more serious ones we can actually
- 00:20:34sit down and think about what's being
- 00:20:35said it's why I called the game a road
- 00:20:37shock test because the conclusions you
- 00:20:38come to for each Road will stand out
- 00:20:40because of your own personal belief
- 00:20:41system and what conclusion did I have on
- 00:20:43the game and what it's saying well this
- 00:20:45where things get a little spicy I said
- 00:20:47before that the general fan base of
- 00:20:48disco elium view it as a love letter to
- 00:20:50Communism and Marxism and discusses the
- 00:20:52tragedy of how it always fails sure that
- 00:20:54element is sort of there but I saw the
- 00:20:56story in almost the complete opposite
- 00:20:57direction ction it has downright
- 00:20:59scathing criticisms of Communism to
- 00:21:01levels that go beyond hear some flaws
- 00:21:03about her own ideology the cope among
- 00:21:05the commi fan base is that it's how you
- 00:21:07know the game was made by real
- 00:21:08Communists because they are willing to
- 00:21:09criticize the ideology so harshly which
- 00:21:12is such an obvious Spin and attempt to
- 00:21:13damage control that pretty much anyone
- 00:21:15can see the [ __ ] for what it is this
- 00:21:16is why I brought the studio infighting
- 00:21:18in the beginning because some scenes
- 00:21:19feel especially bitter and like they're
- 00:21:21telling somebody [ __ ]
- 00:21:24you rise and shine comrade it's time to
- 00:21:27get to work despite all the thinking
- 00:21:30you've been doing only
- 00:21:340.00001% of Communism has been built
- 00:21:38it's too great a task to undertake a
- 00:21:40loan you're going to have to get
- 00:21:43organized your level of personal upkeep
- 00:21:46is irrelevant all that matters is your
- 00:21:49commitment to building the world
- 00:21:51Republic you must seek out your
- 00:21:54revolutionary brothers and sisters find
- 00:21:57out how much communism they've built
- 00:22:00then together maybe you'll be able to
- 00:22:02build as much as
- 00:22:060.2% of Communism but it won't be easy
- 00:22:11Decades of persecution by Coalition
- 00:22:14authorities have driven the remaining
- 00:22:16Communists of martines underground they
- 00:22:19live
- 00:22:21underground these Communists aren't men
- 00:22:24they're mole
- 00:22:26people
- 00:22:28just between us you may want to lay off
- 00:22:31this grind up the bisi stuff it's a bit
- 00:22:35off-putting even to fellow Communists
- 00:22:38possibly if you have been it's only
- 00:22:41because you're a double agent acting in
- 00:22:44furtherance of your long-term objectives
- 00:22:48listen to this do you really think
- 00:22:50you're the kind of person an underground
- 00:22:53communist cell would entrust with a
- 00:22:55mission that requires such discretion
- 00:22:58regardless what's past is past you need
- 00:23:02to look forward to the work of building
- 00:23:04communism for all they're not mole
- 00:23:07people they're your comrades in the
- 00:23:10Eternal class struggle it's your task to
- 00:23:13find and join them let your nose guide
- 00:23:17you detective yes fortunately Communists
- 00:23:21are known to have a very distinct smell
- 00:23:24we really have no idea what they're
- 00:23:26talking about there's no linkage between
- 00:23:29ideology and allf faction
- 00:23:35failure that's why you're perfect for
- 00:23:37the job no one's got a better nose for
- 00:23:40failure than you Harry what you're
- 00:23:42smelling is your own body odor of course
- 00:23:45nothing a shower and change of clothes
- 00:23:47couldn't fix none of this is edited by
- 00:23:50the way the game literally calls you a
- 00:23:53smelly failure that wants to murder rich
- 00:23:56people out of jealousy if you choose
- 00:23:58communism sure may not be apparent at
- 00:24:00first but some details come together in
- 00:24:02a way that does nothing but make
- 00:24:03communism look awful because disco
- 00:24:05elesium at large is about how ideology
- 00:24:07is poison and extremists no matter the
- 00:24:09flag do nothing but bring misery to the
- 00:24:11world they add nothing to others around
- 00:24:13them they can only take and some become
- 00:24:15so delusional they convince themselves
- 00:24:17they're the hero of the story even as
- 00:24:19they rape and murder it's something that
- 00:24:20really does explain a lot of the other
- 00:24:22elements if you look at from the angle
- 00:24:23of ignore the politics because they just
- 00:24:25waste time well yeah it's true true
- 00:24:28every ideology in the game commits the
- 00:24:29exact same sins down to the tea from the
- 00:24:32moralist to the Communist to the ultra
- 00:24:33liberals they all do the same thing and
- 00:24:36just excuse it in different ways Harry
- 00:24:38latches on to various ideologies in the
- 00:24:39game because he's a broken insane man
- 00:24:42desperate to reach any shore that will
- 00:24:44keep him from drowning beaten down by
- 00:24:45personal tragedy and simply dealing with
- 00:24:47too much from his job as a detective in
- 00:24:50a district that was particularly violent
- 00:24:52Harry isn't actually a political guy he
- 00:24:54just latches on the politics in the game
- 00:24:56as a way to give himself purpose because
- 00:24:58without it without the ideals those
- 00:25:00politics bring Harry has nothing nothing
- 00:25:02beyond the case the one that only adds
- 00:25:04to his nightmares and worsening mental
- 00:25:06state it's why Harry becomes such a DI
- 00:25:08hard for whatever Road you pick because
- 00:25:10it's all Harry really has but all it
- 00:25:12does is waste time every ideology adds
- 00:25:14no details to the case or at most you
- 00:25:16would have already known what they're
- 00:25:17saying by the time you do it it's why I
- 00:25:19said you can beat the game in about 3
- 00:25:20days technically no matter what you do
- 00:25:22you will always end up being the game at
- 00:25:24at least 5 days no matter how fast you
- 00:25:26are because you're lock to one region in
- 00:25:28the city until day three and after a
- 00:25:30story moment you get a 2-day Time skip
- 00:25:32so even if you do everything perfectly
- 00:25:34you'll always end up with a time skip
- 00:25:36still the whole point is if you just
- 00:25:37knuckle down and work the case what
- 00:25:39you're on paper supposed to do you'll
- 00:25:41beat the game pretty fast but the reason
- 00:25:43it locks you to that region in the first
- 00:25:443 days is because it wants you to get
- 00:25:46lost and explore to possibly fall into
- 00:25:48temptation to an ideology and get
- 00:25:50distracted by that since there are
- 00:25:52specific time wasters that absolutely
- 00:25:54solve nothing some just directly make
- 00:25:56fun of you for picking them I mean they
- 00:25:57all make fun of you but the ending of
- 00:25:59certain Roots really Hammer home though
- 00:26:01why did you waste time on this Vibe it's
- 00:26:03why the roots that actually reveal the
- 00:26:04most about the world and what's going on
- 00:26:05has absolutely nothing to do with
- 00:26:07politics they're completely insane and
- 00:26:09sound [ __ ] not like the real
- 00:26:11factions in the game but they're the
- 00:26:13ones that are digging into the truth
- 00:26:15they're not hampered by ideology they
- 00:26:17won't throw away information because it
- 00:26:18comes from An Inconvenient Source they
- 00:26:20want the objective truth the skizo root
- 00:26:22is the one that actually reveals the
- 00:26:23most about the world and has an ending
- 00:26:25that really blows you away it's full of
- 00:26:27legitim wonder and gives a satisfying
- 00:26:29conclusion to Harry's Arc whatever Arc
- 00:26:31you yourself wanted to be it's why the
- 00:26:32political roots are so unsatisfying at
- 00:26:34least how I see it because Harry is too
- 00:26:36hampered down on ideals sold by conmen
- 00:26:38and murderers to the point he loses
- 00:26:40sight of true beauty around him of
- 00:26:42course I think I beat around the bush
- 00:26:43long enough let's actually talk about
- 00:26:45the case and what happened because it's
- 00:26:46a doozy of a mystery so what kicks
- 00:26:49everything off is the murder of Ellis
- 00:26:51cire the the names in this game are
- 00:26:53going to be really weird this is going
- 00:26:55to be a a long long running theme in
- 00:26:58this video a mercenary hired to
- 00:26:59infiltrate the dock owned by wild Pines
- 00:27:01who are currently dealing with a union
- 00:27:02strike out of the blue he's dead found
- 00:27:05lynched in a tree the obvious assumption
- 00:27:07is the union did it as they're literally
- 00:27:08bragging about the murder and the body
- 00:27:10is tied up with an industrial strap
- 00:27:12specifically used by the union you're
- 00:27:13forced to deal with the consequences of
- 00:27:15Harry's binge in the beginning of the
- 00:27:16game trying to get him sober enough to
- 00:27:18examine the body and find a way to get
- 00:27:19him out of the tree you can shoot the
- 00:27:21body out but it's a tricky shot that
- 00:27:23basically requires minmax and hand ey
- 00:27:25coordination to get it done because it's
- 00:27:27a story to push you into talking with
- 00:27:28the Union you meet with the Union boss
- 00:27:30ever Sinclair who barely hides his
- 00:27:32intentions to you the man looks talks
- 00:27:34and sounds like a rat Harry I bunked her
- 00:27:38cabin I bunked her whole boat I had
- 00:27:41cameras surveying her boat hell I even
- 00:27:43wanted to bug that thermal cap but my
- 00:27:46boy is advised against it it's very
- 00:27:48clear you're not supposed to trust him
- 00:27:49and he ropes you into doing some of his
- 00:27:50Dirty Work in order to get the body out
- 00:27:52of the tree such as opening doors to
- 00:27:54intimidate political enemies and
- 00:27:55pressuring people into signing away
- 00:27:57their property writes for a real estate
- 00:27:58scam he's planning you can also talk
- 00:28:00with the representative for wild Pines
- 00:28:01Joyce she's an interesting character as
- 00:28:04she contrasts ever art and almost every
- 00:28:05way instead of being locked away in the
- 00:28:07dock surrounded by violent Thugs and
- 00:28:09shipping containers as a makeshift
- 00:28:11Kingdom Joyce is right there out in the
- 00:28:13open sitting there at the dock on her
- 00:28:14boat she's also much more upfront with
- 00:28:16Harry about the situation sure she's a
- 00:28:18corporate negotiator she can't show
- 00:28:19every card close to her chest but she's
- 00:28:21willing to show a lot and even ACC as
- 00:28:23the introduction to the larger setting
- 00:28:24you find out while Pines has dealt with
- 00:28:26this Union before as they've had
- 00:28:28previous strikes at first they're able
- 00:28:30to actually work things out and they're
- 00:28:31able to get pay raises better benefits
- 00:28:33and make things better for all their
- 00:28:34employees but now they're completely
- 00:28:36clamped down now before anything you can
- 00:28:38ask her about where you are the history
- 00:28:40of the region and basic concepts of
- 00:28:42reality also this one weird check that's
- 00:28:44impossible to pass for now I mean that's
- 00:28:46like that's kind of cool still Joyce is
- 00:28:48Shady and she flat out admits to you she
- 00:28:50is Shady and needs your help while
- 00:28:51everard seems to be filled with childish
- 00:28:53Glee at the possibility of escalating
- 00:28:54violence Joyce is trying to limit the
- 00:28:56casualties as best as as possible sure
- 00:28:58wild Pines hired a notorious mercenary
- 00:29:00group but Joyce herself remarks that
- 00:29:02they're out of control and no longer
- 00:29:03following orders for reasons you
- 00:29:05discover later and really reveal the
- 00:29:07importance of solving the mystery all
- 00:29:09you know is that the union are on the
- 00:29:11verge of being put against the wall and
- 00:29:12shot literally The Mercenaries want
- 00:29:14blood and will get it the analogy Joyce
- 00:29:17uses is that it's like a wasp barging
- 00:29:19into a beehive even if the bees win
- 00:29:21it'll cost too many lives that will go
- 00:29:22down as a historic Slaughter she also
- 00:29:24has some suspicions about the strike
- 00:29:26itself they've been going for months and
- 00:29:28show no signs of letting up they're not
- 00:29:29running out of money despite squeezing
- 00:29:31every other business in the city dry to
- 00:29:33fund them also their demands make no
- 00:29:35sense at first they could work with the
- 00:29:36Union to negotiate better pay and better
- 00:29:38conditions all the usual stuff but now
- 00:29:40they're just screaming their heads off
- 00:29:41about all workers and member of the
- 00:29:42board an impossible demand even they
- 00:29:44know can't get done since it would mean
- 00:29:46all 2,000 some OD workers in reval alone
- 00:29:49would be consulted anytime the board
- 00:29:51members want to make policy for the
- 00:29:52company disregarding every other Port
- 00:29:54they own it makes no sense if the union
- 00:29:55isn't budging so you have a gr
- 00:29:57retaliation from The Mercenaries and the
- 00:29:59union is just pretending nothing has
- 00:30:00changed you can investigate a lead that
- 00:30:02shows the union is funding their strike
- 00:30:03through drug trafficking using the port
- 00:30:05to move chemical ingredients for
- 00:30:06narcotics through the city when you
- 00:30:08confront everard about it he just laughs
- 00:30:10you off and says it's all for Black
- 00:30:11Market meds stuff to get to the poror
- 00:30:13the unfortunate and I sincerely hope
- 00:30:15nobody believed him because no that's
- 00:30:17not why it's because they're getting
- 00:30:19money from crime Lords to ship them
- 00:30:20ingredients it's by drugs which were
- 00:30:22already a problem explodes in Revol to
- 00:30:25the point even children like Kuno are
- 00:30:26turned into the junkies because while
- 00:30:28guys like The Hardy Boys insist they
- 00:30:29have a handle on drugs in the city all
- 00:30:31they did was move the prog to gemrock
- 00:30:33which is 20 minutes away and damn near
- 00:30:35every character you talk to is a casual
- 00:30:36drug user they've done irreparable
- 00:30:38damage to the city and somehow convinced
- 00:30:40themselves they did the right thing
- 00:30:41which is a very common theme with this
- 00:30:43Union yeah the union is [ __ ] stupid
- 00:30:46this is not up for debate the union are
- 00:30:47a bunch of violent self-centered
- 00:30:49egotistical hypocritical morons except
- 00:30:51Leo Leo's just a good dude container
- 00:30:54container I'll turn you nice and red
- 00:30:57container container put the logos on
- 00:31:01still the union are the de facto
- 00:31:02villains of the story now obviously if
- 00:31:04you have different sociopolitical
- 00:31:06opinions you might view things
- 00:31:07differently but these guys make my skin
- 00:31:09crawl because they just barge ahead with
- 00:31:11zero regard for collateral damage hell
- 00:31:13sometimes they specifically make plans
- 00:31:15around there being collateral damage
- 00:31:17it's especially bad when you look
- 00:31:18further into the case now the absolute
- 00:31:20most incompetent true dumb asses of the
- 00:31:22story are The Hardy Boys I hate these
- 00:31:24people to levels that cannot be
- 00:31:26described the Hardy Boys are the more
- 00:31:28openly militant faction of the Union led
- 00:31:30by Titus Hardy and his brother Angus
- 00:31:32though Angus is much more passive Titus
- 00:31:34is a foulmouthed hyper aggressive openly
- 00:31:36corrupt man that from the word go Works
- 00:31:38to make your life difficult keeping the
- 00:31:40other boys in line to prevent them from
- 00:31:41giving testimony and openly threatening
- 00:31:43you for investigating the case now you
- 00:31:45can tell him about the ultraviolent
- 00:31:47mercenary team that wants revenge for
- 00:31:49their comrade but he blows you off
- 00:31:51saying the union has more men and guns
- 00:31:53except the [ __ ] the mercs are packing is
- 00:31:55military grade and they experienced kill
- 00:31:57ERS that joke and laugh about some of
- 00:31:58the crimes against humanity they get up
- 00:32:00to they're simply tougher and scarier
- 00:32:03but Titus refuses to budge on the matter
- 00:32:05keeping up his peacock tactic in the
- 00:32:06hopes you go away and it's especially
- 00:32:08bad when you do all of ard's tasks and
- 00:32:11talk to him he will lay out and no
- 00:32:13uncertain terms what his plan is he
- 00:32:16wants the situation to get violent for
- 00:32:18The Mercenaries to snap and kill
- 00:32:20everybody because then he can use their
- 00:32:22deaths as propaganda to force wild Pines
- 00:32:25out of Revol the dock will property of
- 00:32:27the union and the union will run it
- 00:32:30independently the reason they've been
- 00:32:31going so long is cuz art was hoping for
- 00:32:34a violent incident to dangle over the
- 00:32:35company's head and the drug trafficking
- 00:32:38is a double-edged sword he wants to use
- 00:32:40in order to make them too skittish to
- 00:32:41gun after the union which kind of
- 00:32:43ignores the fact the [ __ ] police
- 00:32:44might look into it you know the police
- 00:32:45who are specifically owned by the moral
- 00:32:47intern who don't want the union to be
- 00:32:49independent and want to force them back
- 00:32:51into line and the mercenary gang still
- 00:32:52wants blood for their dead man so they'd
- 00:32:54be more than gleeful to kill everybody
- 00:32:56in the union and call to death day and
- 00:32:57be pretty hard to inspire Revolution
- 00:32:59when the stories of your own crime
- 00:33:00spread the murder corruption
- 00:33:02embezzlement intimidation tactics and
- 00:33:04this is basically admitting in no
- 00:33:05uncertain terms he intends to turn the
- 00:33:07union into a cartel to become a mob boss
- 00:33:09and the king of his own kingdom everard
- 00:33:11and his brother only really care about
- 00:33:12liberating Revol in the sense that their
- 00:33:14fat asses get to sit on the throne once
- 00:33:16it's empty sadly while Pines have
- 00:33:18cooperated with what amounts to a crime
- 00:33:20syndicate for two decades however much
- 00:33:23you feed the leech the leech always
- 00:33:25hungers as much as Everett talks about
- 00:33:27how much he hates wild Pines and Joyce
- 00:33:29he does literally all the same things
- 00:33:31she does organizing murders paying
- 00:33:33people off to strike for him Joyce does
- 00:33:34openly admit she hired scabs to break
- 00:33:36down the strike but I mean she admits to
- 00:33:37it stalking Harry the waitress from the
- 00:33:39whirling Rags flat out admits she
- 00:33:41refused to call the police about the
- 00:33:42body cuz she was terrified of the Union
- 00:33:44they are a glorified Mafia one that
- 00:33:46thinks they're freeing the common man
- 00:33:48while they have their boot on their
- 00:33:49throats they're just gangsters they
- 00:33:51demand money from local businesses
- 00:33:52strangling any economic progress the
- 00:33:54city could see and avart specifically
- 00:33:56plans around on people dying his own
- 00:33:58people he's using The Hardy Boys As The
- 00:34:00Fall Guys and plans for them all to die
- 00:34:02for his War that's why Titus is so cocky
- 00:34:05about the situation he thinks everard
- 00:34:07has his back having his prized student
- 00:34:08Elizabeth who everard outright put
- 00:34:10through law school to be the Union's
- 00:34:11lawyer guide them on how to avoid police
- 00:34:13custody and the whole time everard
- 00:34:15salivating at the idea of this man being
- 00:34:16strung up just like Ellis I had guys
- 00:34:19recording and processing this
- 00:34:21information for me hell no they'd [ __ ]
- 00:34:23it up they can't do anything right I my
- 00:34:27real boys my special task force boys now
- 00:34:30for a while you are operating off the
- 00:34:32idea the union killed Ellis this
- 00:34:34supposed motive was that Ellis raped a
- 00:34:36woman named clauser and they killed him
- 00:34:37in retaliation which is a pretty big
- 00:34:39deal that could explain everything
- 00:34:41they're admitting to it ard's bragging
- 00:34:42about how it helps him and the only
- 00:34:44people had motive would be them since
- 00:34:46tensions between the mercenaries and the
- 00:34:47union have been terrible since they got
- 00:34:49there but there's something not right
- 00:34:50about the whole thing if you spec into
- 00:34:52the skitso hairy paths especially you
- 00:34:55get strange hunches stuff like being
- 00:34:56able bble to talk to the body which
- 00:34:58gives you cryptic riddles and some
- 00:34:59statements that raise an eyebrow love
- 00:35:02did me Pro Copo it was love all alone
- 00:35:06like that he was killed by communism or
- 00:35:08that he seemed to enjoy his moment of
- 00:35:09death made all the more hard to figure
- 00:35:11out with Harry being an unreliable
- 00:35:12narrator but if you keep digging you'll
- 00:35:14find some interesting details a small
- 00:35:16one being a bullet in his brain yeah
- 00:35:18Ellis was shot not hanged so now every
- 00:35:21part of the investigation is in a tail
- 00:35:22spin he was hit with a breach loading
- 00:35:24rifle round and strung up to look like a
- 00:35:26lynching so what the [ __ ] is up with
- 00:35:27that you can confront The Hardy Boys
- 00:35:29about it and they get startled like you
- 00:35:31weren't supposed to find out turns out
- 00:35:33they covered up the real cause of death
- 00:35:35well why would they do that all they did
- 00:35:37was paint a Target on their backs from
- 00:35:38The Mercenaries they took credit for a
- 00:35:40murder they didn't commit and just made
- 00:35:41the situation reval leagues worse well
- 00:35:44they did it because a woman named Ruby
- 00:35:46told them to she's actually the driver
- 00:35:48for the drug running operation who was
- 00:35:50in town when the murder happened and
- 00:35:52supposedly helped organize the cover up
- 00:35:53since the Hardy Boys had no idea what
- 00:35:55was going on and just wanted to get get
- 00:35:56Claus as far away from the mercenaries
- 00:35:58as they could it seems like Ruby is the
- 00:36:00key to everything since if her first
- 00:36:01reaction was to cover up the murder then
- 00:36:03she had to have known it was possible
- 00:36:04for it to occur maybe she even
- 00:36:06orchestrated it maybe out of personal
- 00:36:08Vendetta or a favor to everard who knows
- 00:36:11the point is Ruby is the one to look for
- 00:36:13well eventually you do find her but she
- 00:36:14has no idea what you're talking about in
- 00:36:16fact she says claz was the one who
- 00:36:18organized the cover up and she only
- 00:36:20fleed because Harry was coming to the
- 00:36:22city Ruby used to work for a Crime Boss
- 00:36:23named lauta Madre literally the [ __ ]
- 00:36:26mother or mother [ __ ] and Harry is
- 00:36:27supposedly one of his agents so Ruby
- 00:36:29assumed the case was his excuse to come
- 00:36:31to revisal and murder her now you can
- 00:36:33save Ruby and impacts the ending a bit
- 00:36:35but she runs off anyway if he try to
- 00:36:37arrest her she blows her own head off
- 00:36:38and it it it don't matter besides I have
- 00:36:40a reason why I always let her die still
- 00:36:42it's made clear Ruby didn't do this so
- 00:36:44who did well no time to think about that
- 00:36:46cuz right after all this is the
- 00:36:48mercenary tribunal yeah they weren't
- 00:36:50kidding they put the Hardy Boys against
- 00:36:52the wall and raised their guns cuz as it
- 00:36:54turns out they've been watching your
- 00:36:56investigation the whole time just like
- 00:36:58how art has ears in the city they do too
- 00:37:01and they are pissed at how it's going
- 00:37:03they didn't catch the bullet detail or
- 00:37:05Ruby's involvement and they really don't
- 00:37:07care they want blood for how their
- 00:37:09Commander was treated yeah Ellis was the
- 00:37:11[ __ ] Commander to The Mercenaries
- 00:37:13they killed the man who kept them in
- 00:37:15line and on top of that the one leading
- 00:37:17the tribunal is his [ __ ] brother
- 00:37:20adopted brother but still they grew up
- 00:37:22together and joined the military
- 00:37:24together and he's been forced to watch
- 00:37:25his brother and Commander's body rot in
- 00:37:28a tree humiliated and laughed at by the
- 00:37:30union for over a week this man is seeing
- 00:37:33red and someone is going to die for this
- 00:37:36no matter how well you do in this
- 00:37:37segment a chunk of The Hardy Boys will
- 00:37:39die the ones who for sure die no matter
- 00:37:42what are Glenn fat Angus and Theo they
- 00:37:44will die no matter how well you did or
- 00:37:46how many answers you uncovered the only
- 00:37:48ones you can say for sure are Elizabeth
- 00:37:50shanki Titus and Kim your partner that's
- 00:37:53not to say Kim dies it's just he's too
- 00:37:55wounded to reach the end game with you
- 00:37:57still the best ending of the game is
- 00:37:58only achievable if you kill every single
- 00:38:00Hardy Boy you have to fail every check
- 00:38:02you can bungle things completely let
- 00:38:04them all get Torn to
- 00:38:06Pieces okay that's not actually the best
- 00:38:08outcome yeah you want to save as many of
- 00:38:10them as you can but not going to lie
- 00:38:11every single time I play Disco elium I
- 00:38:13go out of my way to let the Hardy Boys
- 00:38:15die I sincerely hate these men they
- 00:38:17embody the innate hypocrisy the game
- 00:38:19addresses they see themselves as the
- 00:38:21true law and revisal they're the ones
- 00:38:23keeping the neighborhood together
- 00:38:24they're the ones watching out for
- 00:38:25everyone you can even pass a passive
- 00:38:27check or a voice in your head refers to
- 00:38:28Titus as potential RCM Sergeant material
- 00:38:32not just Granite tightly pack RCM
- 00:38:35Sergeant material no he already is a
- 00:38:39sergeant that's what you're feeling he
- 00:38:42just wasn't sure what you are something
- 00:38:45that doesn't have the implications I
- 00:38:48think the developers intended The Hardy
- 00:38:50Boys are [ __ ] stupid they bumbled
- 00:38:52their way into a murder they had no
- 00:38:53obligation to cover up made themselves
- 00:38:55the target of the mercenary 's wrath
- 00:38:57bragged about the murder so that the
- 00:38:58Wrath would only escalate and talked a
- 00:39:00big game of how they totally win in a
- 00:39:02confrontation against them only for them
- 00:39:04to be put up against the wall where they
- 00:39:06start pissing themselves in fear they
- 00:39:08can't be the neighborhood thugs anymore
- 00:39:10they're facing an enemy much much
- 00:39:13scarier it's easy to talk big against
- 00:39:15two detectives who are specifically
- 00:39:17trying to avoid violence but train
- 00:39:19killers that want you dead of course
- 00:39:21they finally crack it's not funny
- 00:39:22anymore it's not just [ __ ] talking in a
- 00:39:24bar anymore things got very real
- 00:39:27very fast even Titus whose entire
- 00:39:29Persona has been a toughest Nails guy
- 00:39:30who doesn't blink in a fight is in a
- 00:39:32complete Panic suddenly all their
- 00:39:34tactics don't work Union solidarity is
- 00:39:36out the window no one's coming to defend
- 00:39:38them as much as they talk about having
- 00:39:40more guys that the union stands together
- 00:39:42they're all Brothers all of Revol sees
- 00:39:44them as Heroes Suddenly It's just them
- 00:39:46out there put against the wall alone
- 00:39:49because everard wants them dead they're
- 00:39:51in the middle of the ocean and about to
- 00:39:53get dragged down into the pitch black it
- 00:39:55sounds like you want to keep keep them
- 00:39:56alive just to spite everard and you're
- 00:39:58not wrong but there's some major holes
- 00:40:00with this plan that the game just sort
- 00:40:02of hopes you ignore the one thing
- 00:40:04keeping a total Massacre from occurring
- 00:40:06is the idea that the company still has
- 00:40:08enough Humanity to avoid just wiping the
- 00:40:09Union off the face of the Earth which is
- 00:40:11a paradox how can the company be this
- 00:40:13evil immoral Beast that Stomps on human
- 00:40:15rights yet also wants to avoid killing
- 00:40:17as many people as possible the entire
- 00:40:18plan hinged on Joy convincing the rest
- 00:40:20of the board members not to declare war
- 00:40:22which is not a guarantee and you even
- 00:40:24see signs it's not going to work for one
- 00:40:26a full-blown moral intern agent is in
- 00:40:28revisal a guy who directly works for the
- 00:40:31Coalition sure it's impli is there
- 00:40:33because of closier since she's a former
- 00:40:34corpo spy who ran away from the life and
- 00:40:36went into hiding but you really think
- 00:40:38he's not watching the situation at large
- 00:40:40especially since art is planning on
- 00:40:41snowballing this into larger and larger
- 00:40:43strikes against the company until all
- 00:40:45docks are liberated from Wild Pines the
- 00:40:47M inter turn being in Revol just shows
- 00:40:49that they're letting things play out
- 00:40:50because they know this scheme is [ __ ]
- 00:40:51ridiculous thought up by wannabe
- 00:40:53gangsters drunk off their own influence
- 00:40:55or the idea that you know while Pines
- 00:40:57wouldn't just throw him under the bus
- 00:40:58because he's the guy orchestrating
- 00:41:00literally everything and admits to it
- 00:41:01more than once to Harry who is a
- 00:41:03detective they can easily say art was
- 00:41:05the one who did everything and they have
- 00:41:07no responsibility and he went rogue
- 00:41:09which is literally what happened yours
- 00:41:11takes the [ __ ] cake and the tribunal
- 00:41:13serves as a brutal lesson when you want
- 00:41:15to play in the big leagues you get a
- 00:41:17harsh reminder of what that means
- 00:41:19suddenly You're Not Strong arming cops
- 00:41:20in a dirty bar you're thrown against the
- 00:41:22wall of that dirty bar and have a gunpo
- 00:41:24at your head by paramilitaries is it
- 00:41:26ethical is it right is it something the
- 00:41:28good guys do no but it's like picking a
- 00:41:31fight with the sunrise you were never
- 00:41:32going to win as much as ever talks about
- 00:41:34how he has every variable planned out he
- 00:41:36really doesn't the one thing keeping him
- 00:41:37breathing is just a moral intern
- 00:41:39thinking he's not worth the bother of
- 00:41:40killing he can play Tyrant all he wants
- 00:41:42in revish all who cares there's
- 00:41:44multitudes of different solutions to
- 00:41:45kill him and he doesn't leave his Harbor
- 00:41:47Because deep down he knows this he has
- 00:41:49to stay in the one area he has complete
- 00:41:51control over because anywhere else is
- 00:41:52too dangerous he's a fat breathing
- 00:41:54Target he says oh I'm too old and fat
- 00:41:57it's more fun to stay here but that's
- 00:41:58just cope really he knows he's a Target
- 00:42:00he knows the mor Turner watching him so
- 00:42:02he just doesn't want to leave of course
- 00:42:04he'd know he uses their tactics bugging
- 00:42:06rooms stalking potential troublemakers
- 00:42:08keeping a tight circle of loyalists he
- 00:42:10uses the Hardy Boys as the public
- 00:42:12loyalists but even he refers to them as
- 00:42:14incompetent everard doesn't want people
- 00:42:15to know who his actual Inner Circle is
- 00:42:17because then they're vulnerable their
- 00:42:19names on a kill list they're human
- 00:42:20beings that can be replaced with other
- 00:42:22human beings some that might not be as
- 00:42:24loyal to art as he wants it's a very
- 00:42:26interesting aspect of the story The
- 00:42:27sheer delusion that the union holds
- 00:42:29about the future the hypocrisy of saying
- 00:42:31they're for the Common Man and openly
- 00:42:33talking about throwing nameless bodies
- 00:42:34at are former military in the hopes they
- 00:42:36can win through attrition they talk
- 00:42:37about how great the union is as a
- 00:42:39concept yet even they know they can't
- 00:42:41win in a fair fight all their propaganda
- 00:42:43is Bluster nobody really wants a war to
- 00:42:45kick off even after the tribunal happens
- 00:42:47you notice something interesting while
- 00:42:49everard is swearing it will lead to a
- 00:42:50war and everything will turn out how he
- 00:42:52wants nothing happens the streets are
- 00:42:54empty the harbor is forced to go into
- 00:42:56lockdown there's no Grand Uprising no
- 00:42:58forceful ousting of wild Pines no mobs
- 00:43:00in the streets the union tucks its tail
- 00:43:02and runs back to home territory sure it
- 00:43:04might not happen overnight but there's
- 00:43:06just a vibe in the back of my mind that
- 00:43:07things did not exactly live up to the
- 00:43:09ideals ever art had in mind hell the
- 00:43:11commander isn't even punished if you get
- 00:43:13the outcome where he lives through the
- 00:43:14tribunal he's taken to a former military
- 00:43:17hospital with full coverage due to his
- 00:43:18insurance plan so it seems like after
- 00:43:20the tribunal you're completely [ __ ]
- 00:43:22all the potential suspects are dead you
- 00:43:24can't really talk to anybody anymore and
- 00:43:26you can't even report the shooting to
- 00:43:27the RCM turns out the union are jamming
- 00:43:29your Communications to hide what
- 00:43:31happened once again leaning towards the
- 00:43:33idea art was bullshitting and his plan
- 00:43:35is up in smoke cuz if art wanted The
- 00:43:37Hardy Boys dead why not let the RCM
- 00:43:39report what happened if it was to
- 00:43:41prevent them from getting back up well
- 00:43:42they're a bit too late on that front
- 00:43:44there's multiple RCM officers there and
- 00:43:46if they're scared of RCM officers
- 00:43:48showing up then just imagine a whole
- 00:43:49platoon of moral intern mercenaries
- 00:43:51they'll just break into the harbor and
- 00:43:52kill everybody there 2,000 Dock Workers
- 00:43:54more like 2,000 enemy comat combatants
- 00:43:56you can sneak into the dock from a shed
- 00:43:58behind the bar these people are going to
- 00:43:59die this whole plot seems like it's made
- 00:44:01up by a guy desperate to think of
- 00:44:02himself as a master tactician and he's
- 00:44:05not that at all he has no idea the deps
- 00:44:07of what he's waiting into and really
- 00:44:09there's still a major question left
- 00:44:11unanswered who shot Ellis we still don't
- 00:44:14know who actually killed the guy that
- 00:44:15kicked this whole thing off nobody even
- 00:44:17heard the shot Claus swear she only
- 00:44:19heard glass breaking and none of the
- 00:44:20Hardy Boys heard gunfire that night so
- 00:44:22the shot couldn't have come from the bar
- 00:44:24itself something that's a tad obvious
- 00:44:25when examine the bullet and see it's a
- 00:44:27rifle round meaning the sniper did it
- 00:44:28but you're forced to operate off a
- 00:44:30theory that the shot came from the
- 00:44:31balcony not one of the be story threads
- 00:44:32not going to lie as stated this this
- 00:44:34does have some plot holes the whole
- 00:44:36thing with Ruby thinking you're working
- 00:44:37for a Crime Boss that literally goes
- 00:44:39nowhere I'm not even kidding that
- 00:44:40literally goes [ __ ] nowhere as soon
- 00:44:42as you raise the question you get one
- 00:44:44little tease that maybe Harry is then
- 00:44:47the ending completely shuts that down
- 00:44:48and goes no you will never work for them
- 00:44:50so why did Ruby think you're working for
- 00:44:51a Crime Boss and they tease the idea
- 00:44:53that maybe Harry did work for a Crime
- 00:44:55Boss only for them to pull the rug out
- 00:44:57from under you and go no that's stupid
- 00:44:58and impossible at least leave the
- 00:45:00possibility open you know for [ __ ]
- 00:45:01sake if it's going to be such a massive
- 00:45:03plot point you know for the conversation
- 00:45:04with Ruby it's especially bad when you
- 00:45:06examine the ballistics and it just flat
- 00:45:07out tells you where the bullet comes
- 00:45:08from which of these lines makes the most
- 00:45:10sense for a shot
- 00:45:11trajectory I'll give you a minute yeah
- 00:45:14it's kind of obvious ain't it the answer
- 00:45:16is none of them uh all intrude on the
- 00:45:19building next to the bar and the third
- 00:45:21one especially is a completely different
- 00:45:23angle from how the shot came in yet it's
- 00:45:27treated as the right answer but I want
- 00:45:29to chalk this up to smell Europeans not
- 00:45:31understanding ballistics which is saying
- 00:45:32a lot cuz I'm not an expert on it by any
- 00:45:34means regardless you go to examine
- 00:45:35Claus's apartment and she ties a red
- 00:45:36string pointing out what direction the
- 00:45:38blow came from showing it's an island
- 00:45:40off the coast of Revol that's if you
- 00:45:42don't arrest her however if you do take
- 00:45:44her in it's implied she's killed by the
- 00:45:45moral intern I never arrest her in my
- 00:45:47playthroughs because while she's shady
- 00:45:49and did some [ __ ] up things in her
- 00:45:51past she really isn't involved with the
- 00:45:53case too much it's her idea to perform
- 00:45:55the cover up inching but that's because
- 00:45:56she was terrified of the moral intern
- 00:45:58finding her not wanting to be dragged
- 00:45:59into a deeper investigation that would
- 00:46:01expose her presence in reval but she
- 00:46:03does end up feeling guilty enough to
- 00:46:04call into the police to report the body
- 00:46:06even staying in the city longer than
- 00:46:08intended as a sort of penance to herself
- 00:46:10since she was in a relationship with
- 00:46:11Ellis and seem to truly like him she's a
- 00:46:13very paradoxical person helping set up
- 00:46:15the fake lynching to hide the murder but
- 00:46:17also not even bothering to hide details
- 00:46:18when Harry interrogates her sure she's
- 00:46:20not forthcoming about everything but she
- 00:46:22admits more than enough to let you solve
- 00:46:23the case so whether or not you arrest
- 00:46:25her is you view her character personally
- 00:46:27is she deserving a punishment or deal
- 00:46:29let her go since she's a smaller detail
- 00:46:30to a larger picture it's up to you and
- 00:46:32lends Credence to the idea that you
- 00:46:34follow your own logic still you're led
- 00:46:36to the island an old Outpost used by the
- 00:46:38communist revolutionaries during the war
- 00:46:40you can explore the Outpost for some
- 00:46:41more lore specifically a mattress you
- 00:46:43can take a nap on that reveals the truth
- 00:46:44around Harry's ex- fiance as stated
- 00:46:47their breakup was bad B enough that Dora
- 00:46:49the real name of Harry's lost love
- 00:46:51aborted their child and ran off on him
- 00:46:53leaving him and starting a new life in a
- 00:46:54completely different country she got
- 00:46:56married to a new guy and even had his
- 00:46:57child Harry never got over their last
- 00:46:59conversation dreaming it as a warped
- 00:47:01nightmare over and over again for 6
- 00:47:03years straight even imagine Dora as
- 00:47:05Dolores day a sort of Jesus Christ type
- 00:47:07figure in the setting Harry's mind warps
- 00:47:09Dora to be a literal Messiah and
- 00:47:11embodiment of beauty forever tormenting
- 00:47:13his mind you also get some revealing
- 00:47:15details in your conversation with her
- 00:47:17whatever ideology you pick in the game
- 00:47:18is referenced as Harry's desperate
- 00:47:20attempts to persuade Dora to stay and
- 00:47:22she just scufs Mo saying that she left
- 00:47:24not because of ideology but because
- 00:47:25their relationship fell to Pieces they
- 00:47:27had no money har was getting more
- 00:47:29depressed and neither were truly happy
- 00:47:31all of his Shenanigans in the game were
- 00:47:33coping mechanisms to make him forget
- 00:47:35Dora even training himself to completely
- 00:47:37black out his memories so he didn't have
- 00:47:39to think about her anymore but his
- 00:47:40subconscious always knew she was there
- 00:47:42and you have moments in the game where
- 00:47:43Harry still Pines for her it's not
- 00:47:45something you can just forget and
- 00:47:47pretend never happened he needs to truly
- 00:47:49accept she's gone and move on with his
- 00:47:51life but that's easier said than done
- 00:47:54still this is one of the highlights of
- 00:47:55the game this scene is truly emotional
- 00:47:57and you're given options on how you want
- 00:47:58Harry to react to Dora is he still
- 00:48:00hopelessly obsessed with her or will you
- 00:48:02try and push him towards letting her go
- 00:48:04and piecing himself back together it's
- 00:48:05up to you and how you view Harry some
- 00:48:07like the guy being a loser from start to
- 00:48:09finish others want to see him get his
- 00:48:11[ __ ] together and try to become a
- 00:48:12fully-fledged detective again regardless
- 00:48:14this is the final story moment before
- 00:48:16the final confrontation you find a
- 00:48:18sniper's nest that reveals that this is
- 00:48:20the island the killer resides at having
- 00:48:22such a clear view of the bar you could
- 00:48:24stare into cla's bedroom with ill if you
- 00:48:26wanted to and you finally track down the
- 00:48:28killer at a campfire and he's just an
- 00:48:31old man regressive Bourgeois henchman
- 00:48:36can't even talk like a grownup this is
- 00:48:39dross a former communist revolutionary
- 00:48:41that's been living all alone on this
- 00:48:43island for over 40 years he is
- 00:48:46exceptionally bitter about you finding
- 00:48:48him about the world about just
- 00:48:50everything dross is a man consumed by
- 00:48:52misery he barely even hides the fact
- 00:48:54he's the one who shot Ellis proudly
- 00:48:56displaying the gun and lamenting the
- 00:48:57failure of the Revolution it seems like
- 00:48:59he's a DieHard communist that killed
- 00:49:01Ellis as a political statement he's been
- 00:49:03watching Revol for decades so he's well
- 00:49:05aware of the union strike and arrival of
- 00:49:07the mercenaries Ellis and his unit were
- 00:49:09Infamous in the city for being abusive
- 00:49:11and violent so it appears dross
- 00:49:12performed a vigilante murder shooting
- 00:49:14Ellis in the mouth as he was having sex
- 00:49:16with clauser it appears everything is
- 00:49:18tied together with a nice big bow but
- 00:49:21something doesn't seem right it seems
- 00:49:23kind of small for an explanation this
- 00:49:25old man shot Ellis for shits and giggles
- 00:49:27what's up with that well that's because
- 00:49:29there is a large dialogue tree that's
- 00:49:31not here you see when you examine cla's
- 00:49:33apartment you can pass a perception tick
- 00:49:36Harry finds a dry mayel flower on the
- 00:49:38balcony May bells in the lore were used
- 00:49:40by lovers to give to each other before
- 00:49:41the men went off to war a sign that they
- 00:49:43would always care for each other
- 00:49:44something like that but specifically
- 00:49:46they were used by Communists During the
- 00:49:48Revolution not only that but you
- 00:49:50discover a secret compartment the
- 00:49:51whirling Rags the remains of a pinball
- 00:49:53arcade that went bankrupt some time ago
- 00:49:55and in that pinball arcade there's an
- 00:49:57elevator there's an entire back room to
- 00:50:00the balcony not even claz was aware of
- 00:50:02and there's footprints in the dust made
- 00:50:04very recently even a pee pole in the
- 00:50:06wall that let someone spy in her
- 00:50:07apartment at first it's safe to assume
- 00:50:09she's being watched by the moral intern
- 00:50:11she does have people trying to kill her
- 00:50:13but no it's not them it's dross he's
- 00:50:16been using that back room to stalk
- 00:50:17clauser not out of hatred at least not
- 00:50:20fully he seems like he's in love with
- 00:50:21her watching from his nest day in and
- 00:50:24day out now when I I say love take it in
- 00:50:26a much more Insidious interpretation he
- 00:50:29doesn't actually care about clauser it's
- 00:50:31a more obsessive and envious form of
- 00:50:34affection really similar to how Titus
- 00:50:36felt about her at first glance there
- 00:50:38seem to be actual connection and respect
- 00:50:40for her then she does something they
- 00:50:41don't like and they have to contain
- 00:50:43themselves not to just go up there and
- 00:50:44beat her lifeless Titus has to be talked
- 00:50:47down by Elizabeth not to do literally
- 00:50:49this when you reveal she tore apart the
- 00:50:51rape story no we just [ __ ] that's all
- 00:50:55relationship there was no [ __ ]
- 00:50:57relationship he raped her that's their
- 00:50:59relationship something is off here his
- 00:51:02anger is
- 00:51:04possessive okay enough all of this is
- 00:51:08irrelevant to your stated investigation
- 00:51:11yeah whatever [ __ ] I knew that [ __ ]
- 00:51:15[ __ ] couldn't be trusted you fit a
- 00:51:17nerve Titus is furious no more than that
- 00:51:21the loyal Titus feels
- 00:51:24betrayed the
- 00:51:26record Titus Hardy did not explicitly
- 00:51:29specify the victim as a [ __ ] nor did he
- 00:51:33say anything about trusting her no shut
- 00:51:35up and stay out of this
- 00:51:38Liz he raped her he was out of his
- 00:51:41[ __ ] mind you have no idea she's just
- 00:51:46in denial [ __ ] you don't understand
- 00:51:48the traumatic experience she's shutting
- 00:51:51down and she doesn't [ __ ] trust you
- 00:51:54yeah she she crazy you know a crazy
- 00:51:58[ __ ] you know the type she's [ __ ] up
- 00:52:02this is a diversion stay on
- 00:52:06track she wasn't raped the witness's
- 00:52:09statements were very clear L man I'm at
- 00:52:12the end of my goddamn robe with you I
- 00:52:16[ __ ] told you not to push her they go
- 00:52:19from talking about clasia like a friend
- 00:52:21or a ward they need to protect to
- 00:52:23casually calling her a [ __ ] or a crazy
- 00:52:26[ __ ] that can't be trusted showing how
- 00:52:28fast they're willing to cut someone out
- 00:52:30once they are slighted they don't even
- 00:52:32know the context behind why she denied
- 00:52:36the story whether it's being cornered or
- 00:52:39if she was never comfortable with
- 00:52:41claiming to begin with as she had a
- 00:52:43sexual relationship with the victim that
- 00:52:46never seemed to cross any lines she
- 00:52:49wasn't personally comfortable with tetus
- 00:52:52is the one pushing the rape story and
- 00:52:54it's very obviously painted by his own
- 00:52:58personal bias and possessive mentality
- 00:53:02around classi there's a common theme
- 00:53:04with clauser she just seems to bring out
- 00:53:06the worst in people they just lean on
- 00:53:08doing the worst possible things in her
- 00:53:09presence even Harry isn't immune to it
- 00:53:11out right having skill checks to just
- 00:53:13hit on her out of the blue it's not like
- 00:53:15a supernatural power or anything like
- 00:53:16that more just it's what happens when
- 00:53:18she's with people ironically the one
- 00:53:20person who didn't do this was Ellis
- 00:53:22himself in public he's boasting about
- 00:53:24killing civilians being a total monster
- 00:53:26but with claz at least according to her
- 00:53:28he became much more vulnerable and
- 00:53:30honest about himself he was completely
- 00:53:32destroyed mentally by War turned from a
- 00:53:34scared and starving orphan into a
- 00:53:35killing machine the one person who
- 00:53:37didn't become worse around her was the
- 00:53:39guy already there to begin with it might
- 00:53:41even be why they connected in the first
- 00:53:43place they just clicked due to their
- 00:53:44Mutual Natures still the point being
- 00:53:46that dross became obsessed with clauser
- 00:53:48and when he learned of her relationship
- 00:53:50with Ellis he became enraged going from
- 00:53:52affection to outright hatred for them
- 00:53:54both he shot Ellis while him and clauser
- 00:53:56were having sex specifically to punish
- 00:53:59her to traumatize her and get his
- 00:54:01revenge on her that's what caused all of
- 00:54:03this all of the violence death and
- 00:54:06tragedy a lonely old man who killed
- 00:54:09another man over a woman a woman he
- 00:54:12never knew never spoke with and didn't
- 00:54:14even know her name all out of his own
- 00:54:16hatred and misery dross is a pathetic
- 00:54:19character every single descriptor for
- 00:54:22him is pathetic he has no friends no
- 00:54:25loved ones no connection to anybody
- 00:54:27anywhere all alone drunk off his own
- 00:54:29ideology and nothing to keep him company
- 00:54:32he despises art seeing it as Bourgeois
- 00:54:34nonsense he despises people seeing them
- 00:54:36as traitors and horror sold out to the
- 00:54:38moral intern capitalists he despises
- 00:54:40other Communists seeing as non-dedicated
- 00:54:42posers that aren't willing to fight and
- 00:54:44die for the cause even if you Speck into
- 00:54:46communist Harry root he'll spend the
- 00:54:48entire conversation criticizing you for
- 00:54:50not being communist enough for his
- 00:54:51liking and most of all dross hates
- 00:54:54himself because this isn't some
- 00:54:56weathered Soldier keeping up the fight
- 00:54:58after all this time dross is a coward
- 00:55:01and a deserter during the invasion of
- 00:55:02reval he deserted his unit and hid while
- 00:55:05they were getting slaughtered coming out
- 00:55:06of hiding to realize the war was lost
- 00:55:08and all of his comrades were dead dross
- 00:55:10then runs off into the island spending
- 00:55:12decades stewing in his rage and taking
- 00:55:14out on various people in Reva he could
- 00:55:16have potentially murdered dozens of
- 00:55:18people we just don't know about reval is
- 00:55:20a particularly Rough City how many
- 00:55:21murders are unaccounted for between the
- 00:55:23rcm's thin resources and the union
- 00:55:25covering things up especially when he
- 00:55:26find out the connection between everard
- 00:55:28and dross he used him as his Hitman to
- 00:55:30kill the former Union head and put
- 00:55:32himself in the seat having her shot the
- 00:55:34day of the election and strong arming
- 00:55:36anyone who wanted to investigate and
- 00:55:38that's just the murder dross was willing
- 00:55:39to talk about there could be more bodies
- 00:55:41the story just doesn't bring up he still
- 00:55:43sees himself as a true revolutionary the
- 00:55:45only real communist Left Alive and he's
- 00:55:47just this nihilistic old Hitman who got
- 00:55:50cucked by a drug addict mercenary there
- 00:55:52are people who say they think dross is
- 00:55:53the coolest character in the story story
- 00:55:55and my question is how how is this guy
- 00:55:58cool every detail about him makes him
- 00:56:01despicable he deserted his unit and yet
- 00:56:03has the goal to say everyone else isn't
- 00:56:05commanded enough to the fight he's
- 00:56:06obsessively stalking a woman he never
- 00:56:08met and wanted to get Petty Vengeance on
- 00:56:10her when she shacked up with a guy he
- 00:56:12didn't like kicked off a powder cake
- 00:56:13situation that ended with mercenaries
- 00:56:15shooting a bunch of uninvolved
- 00:56:17bystanders something he blames you for
- 00:56:20of course you got those boys killed that
- 00:56:22it was your fault for not saving people
- 00:56:25he got killed with his actions opinions
- 00:56:27on The Hardy Boys aside it is fully 100%
- 00:56:30D's fault they were put up against the
- 00:56:31wall and shot in the first place for
- 00:56:33killing Ellis he committed the murder
- 00:56:35yet he blames you because you didn't
- 00:56:36personally save them this is who dross
- 00:56:39is he does something terrible and then
- 00:56:41blames everyone else for it even the way
- 00:56:43he words it CLA deserves to be
- 00:56:45traumatized for life because she slided
- 00:56:47some crazy old man she didn't even know
- 00:56:49existed but when dra deserted his unit
- 00:56:51you want to know what he did he wrote a
- 00:56:53criticism for himself I wrote to
- 00:56:55criticism of myself and resumed partisan
- 00:56:59duties he left his friends behind to die
- 00:57:02and his response is that he wrote an
- 00:57:03essay about how he felt bad about it and
- 00:57:05to make it all worse dross isn't even a
- 00:57:07soldier in fact he's insulted at the
- 00:57:10very notion sure he's trained to shoot a
- 00:57:12gun but he refers to himself as a
- 00:57:14political commissar this was an actual
- 00:57:16position in the Soviet Union it refers
- 00:57:18to an official from the Communist Party
- 00:57:19who was assigned to a military unit to
- 00:57:21make sure they upheld communist
- 00:57:22principles this guy was a glorified
- 00:57:25health inspector for Communists he's not
- 00:57:27a soldier it's why he abandoned his unit
- 00:57:29when [ __ ] took a turn for the worse
- 00:57:31because all he was good for was spouting
- 00:57:33ideological talking points commissars
- 00:57:35were Infamous for shooting their own men
- 00:57:40for disloyalty the fins during the
- 00:57:42winter War outright uh printed
- 00:57:45propaganda posters showing this happened
- 00:57:48to dissuade people from joining the
- 00:57:50Communists essentially warning them that
- 00:57:53they will be shot by their own commander
- 00:57:55on a whim now in the beginning
- 00:57:58executions were handled by the nkvd who
- 00:58:02ran the actual death squads in the
- 00:58:05Soviet Union and the gulags but these
- 00:58:07were phased out as World War II
- 00:58:09progressed and commissars were allowed
- 00:58:11to execute their fellow soldiers since
- 00:58:13the nkvd were seen as redundant still it
- 00:58:17was well known that executions were
- 00:58:19handled by both groups the only real
- 00:58:21difference is that the nkvd were
- 00:58:23considered a separate entity from the
- 00:58:25Army for all of his talk of solidarity
- 00:58:28and loyalty he never had an ounce of it
- 00:58:30himself he calls the dead his brothers
- 00:58:32but he never gave to shits about them
- 00:58:34it's to justify his hatred he's not
- 00:58:36angry his friends were killed he's angry
- 00:58:37the revolution failed the revolution he
- 00:58:40deserted from on top of that it's even
- 00:58:41implied he wasn't even a Frontline guy
- 00:58:43until the very end of the war saying he
- 00:58:45was pulled up due to emergency defense
- 00:58:48protocols now they do acknowledge the
- 00:58:49fall of Revel was his first battle since
- 00:58:51he was recruited in ' 07 and was
- 00:58:53stationed there in '08 so so a year of
- 00:58:55training and his first deployment being
- 00:58:56the end of the war and he did never
- 00:58:58formally finish his training but that's
- 00:59:00not much better since once again it
- 00:59:01means an entire year was wasted on
- 00:59:03training a commissar that immediately
- 00:59:05deserted the guy who was supposed to
- 00:59:06embody strict loyalty to ideology ran
- 00:59:09away as soon as he could so he was a
- 00:59:11[ __ ] Pogue dross is just a horrible
- 00:59:13person a hypocrite that wants to judge
- 00:59:15everyone else for her behaviors he does
- 00:59:17without a second thought which is
- 00:59:18actually pretty common among Communists
- 00:59:20now that I think about it you can even
- 00:59:21get him ranting about people he despises
- 00:59:23around reval which is pretty much
- 00:59:25everyone women kids any random stranger
- 00:59:28he can see as stated he doesn't see
- 00:59:30these people as individuals he thinks
- 00:59:32all of them are traitors from moving on
- 00:59:34from the revolution he's angry they
- 00:59:35aren't throwing themselves into machine
- 00:59:37guns for the struggle the struggle he
- 00:59:39himself ran away from and in particular
- 00:59:41he hates a man called Renee now Renee is
- 00:59:44a very interesting character he
- 00:59:46basically represents old school fascism
- 00:59:48he's a former royalist soldier who
- 00:59:50fought in the revolution for the other
- 00:59:51side on the side of the king he brags
- 00:59:53about the strength of the royal royal
- 00:59:54family and has nothing but disdain for
- 00:59:57Communists in fact he's willing to give
- 00:59:59you any information he has about the
- 01:00:00murder he just doesn't have any to give
- 01:00:02you think the game would make him a
- 01:00:03complete joke a crotchy old grandpa that
- 01:00:05talks about the good old days and dreams
- 01:00:07of burning crosses especially
- 01:00:08considering the game supposedly biased
- 01:00:10towards communism but that's actually
- 01:00:11not the case Renee is one of the best
- 01:00:13characters in the game you don't get a
- 01:00:14lot of details about him but he's very
- 01:00:16fleshed out as a human being instead of
- 01:00:18being a parody Rene is basically the
- 01:00:20polar opposite of dross not just
- 01:00:22politically but in literally every
- 01:00:24single way while Dr was a commissar
- 01:00:26Renee was an actual Soldier he fought on
- 01:00:29the front lines even winning decorations
- 01:00:31for bravery not only that but he was
- 01:00:33crippled saving commanding officer the
- 01:00:35cousin to the king the whole unit hated
- 01:00:36because he was basically incompetent
- 01:00:38Renee despite also hating him had his
- 01:00:40knee broken pulling the man to safety
- 01:00:42while he lost his jaw the man survived
- 01:00:44and held Renee in high regard for the
- 01:00:46rest of the war he was the commanding
- 01:00:48officer and I was on duty just doing my
- 01:00:51job shouldn't hand out medals for that
- 01:00:5513 months later I received the son for
- 01:00:58distinguished service it's not worth
- 01:01:00mentioning he also has friends Renee has
- 01:01:03always seen playing ball with another
- 01:01:05old man in the city and the two are
- 01:01:06legitimately best friends growing up
- 01:01:09together and staying in touch for over
- 01:01:1080 years Renee is still living in reval
- 01:01:13he's still a part of the city its people
- 01:01:15he even works as a security guard for
- 01:01:16the union he absolutely hates the union
- 01:01:19and how Shady they are but he puts his
- 01:01:20opinions aside to make a living you even
- 01:01:23find out he loved a woman engaged to a
- 01:01:25childhood friend he sadly had to leave
- 01:01:26to go fight in the war where she was
- 01:01:28promptly stolen by his best friend but
- 01:01:30since the three were together since
- 01:01:31childhood she couldn't commit to either
- 01:01:33man in fact they all had a running joke
- 01:01:35she was basically married to both of
- 01:01:36them though Renee obviously is still
- 01:01:38bitter about that memory he did truly
- 01:01:40love her it already got ugly nearly 80
- 01:01:43years ago when the Tre of us were just
- 01:01:46learning to walk and talk you stole her
- 01:01:49from me well technically you stole her
- 01:01:53from me because would been pretty close
- 01:01:56ever since you two had that falling out
- 01:01:58however the ink you spilled over a
- 01:02:01pretty yellow dress we were just boys
- 01:02:04then this was different you no point
- 01:02:08starting this all over again for the
- 01:02:11thousandth and the first time especially
- 01:02:14when we have company when she died the
- 01:02:17two of them grieved her and when Renee
- 01:02:18later dies of a heart attack his best
- 01:02:20friend is grieving his loss as well
- 01:02:22Renee had an impact in the world he had
- 01:02:25people who cared that he was there and
- 01:02:26enjoyed his presence in spite of his
- 01:02:28attitude dross on the other hand has
- 01:02:30none of these things in fact he seems to
- 01:02:33have a particular hatred for Renee for
- 01:02:35all of this he talks about how much he
- 01:02:37wanted to shoot Renee that he was saving
- 01:02:38him for a special occasion but he just
- 01:02:40watched him for decades in fact when you
- 01:02:43tell him that Renee died of a heart
- 01:02:45attack dross breaks down it ends the
- 01:02:47dialogue tree and he can't even approach
- 01:02:48the subject again Renee was admired even
- 01:02:50by a mortal enemy who can't accept the
- 01:02:52idea that the last symbol of his
- 01:02:54struggle just died of a heart attack an
- 01:02:56old man content with his life whether or
- 01:02:58not it was admiration or jealousy I
- 01:03:00don't know but dross Couldn't Shoot
- 01:03:02Renee for some reason probably because
- 01:03:04he just couldn't accept the idea the one
- 01:03:06true fascist he hated had a better life
- 01:03:08than him had everything draw through
- 01:03:10away and just refused to ever get back
- 01:03:12Renee didn't waste his life in
- 01:03:13ideological hatred living on an island
- 01:03:16all by himself I hope you guys are
- 01:03:17realizing why I say this game isn't as
- 01:03:19sympathetic to Communism as parts of the
- 01:03:21fan base would have you believe in fact
- 01:03:23a lot of the Communist characters in the
- 01:03:24game are pretty horrendous human beings
- 01:03:26they're murderers stalkers and plain and
- 01:03:28simple just thugs they're Hypocrites
- 01:03:30using all the same tactics as their
- 01:03:31enemies yet judging them for it they
- 01:03:33steal money Strongarm people ruin entire
- 01:03:36communities then have the goall to say
- 01:03:38everyone else isn't doing enough to make
- 01:03:40things better Gary the crypto fascist
- 01:03:42isn't even targeted for his political
- 01:03:46beliefs art gladly works with measure
- 01:03:50head who is also considered a fascist
- 01:03:52due to his beliefs and he takes it a
- 01:03:54step further by being the violent
- 01:03:57enforcer guarding the way into the
- 01:03:58harbor an avowed racial supremacist
- 01:04:01willing to attack people on the Union's
- 01:04:04orders it's essentially like hiring a
- 01:04:07Neo-Nazi gang for security the only
- 01:04:09reason Gary is targeted is because he is
- 01:04:12investigating Art's drug ring putting
- 01:04:15himself at risk solely because he knows
- 01:04:18it's wrong and is destroying the
- 01:04:20neighborhood another case of the fascist
- 01:04:23straw man being a better person than the
- 01:04:25supposedly puffed up Communists now I
- 01:04:27know some of you guys are going what
- 01:04:29about the Communist students aren't they
- 01:04:30a good example of Communism to that I'll
- 01:04:32say sure at first they seem to be just
- 01:04:35two dumb college students that got
- 01:04:36wrapped up in communism and are tackling
- 01:04:38it with all the Zeal of a 20-some
- 01:04:40worlded who thinks they figured out how
- 01:04:41the world works but there's some
- 01:04:43nefarious implications with them for one
- 01:04:45they speak in buzzwords their language
- 01:04:47are just terms they pulled from books
- 01:04:49they've read and with no actual
- 01:04:50definition to them one thing you learn
- 01:04:52quickly at University is that you're not
- 01:04:54going to find a real education in any
- 01:04:56lecture hall or discussion seminar we
- 01:04:59are post attendance basically dropouts
- 01:05:01Harry has to outright past checks not to
- 01:05:03drift off and boredom cuz he has no idea
- 01:05:05what they're talking about and as you
- 01:05:06talk to them they discuss the history of
- 01:05:08Communism in the region it was literally
- 01:05:10intended to be a replacement for
- 01:05:12religion taking the zealotry and
- 01:05:13refocusing it away from Eternal
- 01:05:15salvation and instead on making a better
- 01:05:17World the game Compares communism to a
- 01:05:20religion and the fan base expects you to
- 01:05:22think of this as a good thing cuz with
- 01:05:24the religion comparison dropped you now
- 01:05:26have to address the elephant in the room
- 01:05:28the revolution where every side were
- 01:05:30[ __ ] animals to each other and did
- 01:05:31terrible things with the mindset this
- 01:05:33was intended as a spiritual war the
- 01:05:36Communists are now a different Beast
- 01:05:37altogether this isn't just political
- 01:05:39factions fighting this was a war of
- 01:05:41zealotry forcing itself on the rest of
- 01:05:43the world a cult collapsed the royal
- 01:05:45family and forced everybody into a
- 01:05:47commune one that tried to build a
- 01:05:48nuclear reactor in a major city and
- 01:05:50ended up causing Chernobyl by the way
- 01:05:52reaffirming that Communists can't even
- 01:05:53boil water correctly they violently
- 01:05:55overthrow a nation talk about how all of
- 01:05:57mankind needs to follow their religion
- 01:05:59and they were shocked the Coalition
- 01:06:00stomped them down and if you actually
- 01:06:02listen to what the students are saying
- 01:06:03they are insane one of them even drops
- 01:06:06hints that they want to perform another
- 01:06:07Revolution but that doesn't mean we can
- 01:06:09simply give up especially then and of
- 01:06:12course we'll be shooting right back even
- 01:06:15more death and suffering for something
- 01:06:16doomed to fail they even Ed one of their
- 01:06:18members for saying hey not every idea
- 01:06:20from the capitalist is a Bad Thing their
- 01:06:22methods around [ __ ] rotation sound
- 01:06:25like a good thing to follow it was
- 01:06:27unbelievable he said turnips don't care
- 01:06:30if they are grown by Communists
- 01:06:32moralists or veran they go just the same
- 01:06:35basically he was rejecting the whole
- 01:06:37Foundation of infr materialist Theory
- 01:06:40yeah they thrw the guy out for saying
- 01:06:41you should Farm your crops correctly
- 01:06:43because he wasn't thinking of things
- 01:06:44with an infr materialist lens what is
- 01:06:47infr materialism the power of belief I'm
- 01:06:50not even joking simply that under
- 01:06:52suitably revolutionary condition
- 01:06:54conditions crop yields naturally
- 01:06:56increase relative to non-revolutionary
- 01:06:58crops which Morris somehow has the gold
- 01:07:01to deny it's the idea of putting so much
- 01:07:03faith into something they manifest it
- 01:07:05into reality so their idea after the
- 01:07:07global Revolution is to throw out all
- 01:07:09the documented methods to farm crops and
- 01:07:11just believe they can grow turnips this
- 01:07:13is how the holer started you [ __ ]
- 01:07:15morons the big thing with the students
- 01:07:17is that they're trying to build a tower
- 01:07:18out of matchboxes and use their belief
- 01:07:20in infr materialism to keep it standing
- 01:07:22since it's built in a way that's guarant
- 01:07:24to fall apart it's this Whimsical moment
- 01:07:25where it looks like this time it's going
- 01:07:27to work you can get the ball rolling on
- 01:07:28true
- 01:07:29[Music]
- 01:07:33R you know what fitting now if you fully
- 01:07:36SPC into communism the end of the quest
- 01:07:37line is the tower stays up fans say that
- 01:07:40this is proed communism is possible but
- 01:07:42this relies on turning Harry into a
- 01:07:43communist Zealot a mentally unstable man
- 01:07:46willing to work with murderers and
- 01:07:47thieves turned into a zealot that thinks
- 01:07:49he can grow turn-ups through the power
- 01:07:50of belief the tower collapses at the end
- 01:07:53anyway and the main student comes up
- 01:07:57with the excuse that it was supposed to
- 01:07:59happen so they should believe that's why
- 01:08:01it fell essentially demanding uh they
- 01:08:04rewrite history so he can keep up his
- 01:08:06ideological delusions now some of you
- 01:08:09guys might be going hey wait a minute
- 01:08:11what about the pale couldn't that affect
- 01:08:13the material world to those unaware I
- 01:08:15brought up a border line impossible
- 01:08:16check earlier in the video you can ask
- 01:08:18Joyce that something in the world
- 01:08:19doesn't feel right you can't say what
- 01:08:21but Harry just instinctively knows
- 01:08:23there's something out there and there is
- 01:08:25the pale is an Indescribable force in
- 01:08:26the setting it's this kind of gray cloud
- 01:08:29or force or whatever it is that just
- 01:08:32seems to affect all natural laws history
- 01:08:35Blends together the human mind is thrown
- 01:08:37into every memory all at once in the
- 01:08:40deepest layers of the pale Concepts like
- 01:08:42numbers stop working you get signs of
- 01:08:44the pale spreading in Reva in the church
- 01:08:46where a ho in reality blocks all sound
- 01:08:48the doomed commercial area where every
- 01:08:50business that opens up there goes
- 01:08:51bankrupt regardless of what happens even
- 01:08:53even a mysterious phone number playing a
- 01:08:55call from over a 100 years ago Lori
- 01:08:57drivers experienced regular pale
- 01:08:59exposure and Ruby makes a device that
- 01:09:01attempts to harness the pale and use it
- 01:09:03as a weapon there's even a cargo
- 01:09:04container in the dock that's used by a
- 01:09:06billionaire whose face warps light
- 01:09:08around him the guy is a walking talking
- 01:09:10Beacon of the pale now the game tries to
- 01:09:13say something else about the guy that he
- 01:09:14just has so much money that reality is
- 01:09:16breaking down around him cuz it feeds
- 01:09:18into the Communist student thing but I'd
- 01:09:19hedge a safer bet that since he travels
- 01:09:22around a lot he's been exposed to the
- 01:09:23pale so much his physical body is now a
- 01:09:25beacon for it still the pale seems to
- 01:09:27imply that there is a force out there
- 01:09:29that can manifest true communism that
- 01:09:31turn-ups will grow and the tower stays
- 01:09:33up this time but that's not how that
- 01:09:35works infr materialism relies on
- 01:09:37everyone putting their faith into the
- 01:09:39idea it will work so what do you do with
- 01:09:41the people that are more skeptical like
- 01:09:42the guy asking about turn-ups for a
- 01:09:44small scale book club they just boot him
- 01:09:46out from the group but what about a
- 01:09:47larger scale a town or a nation that's
- 01:09:50millions of people potentially all of
- 01:09:52which need to be put in complete faith
- 01:09:54in the idea that these ideas will work
- 01:09:56if something goes wrong buildings
- 01:09:58collapsing or crops failing who's the
- 01:10:00first to be blamed the people who didn't
- 01:10:01believe hard enough a purity spiral will
- 01:10:04begin to weed out the ones who aren't
- 01:10:05showing complete loyalty to the idea of
- 01:10:07Communism there's even hints of it in
- 01:10:08the dialogue the two students write
- 01:10:10articles for a communist newspaper
- 01:10:12bankrolled by the Union in it are
- 01:10:14articles denouncing things like car
- 01:10:15races as Bourgeois exploitation
- 01:10:17something that Kim outright mentions
- 01:10:19it's very obvious they've never even set
- 01:10:21foot in a car I can imagine something
- 01:10:23tells me there's not exactly a glut of
- 01:10:25young communist teaching to write about
- 01:10:27tiptop for Lee if I had to wager I'd say
- 01:10:31they've never even seen the inside of a
- 01:10:33motor much less a motor race I take
- 01:10:36whatever they write with a large grain
- 01:10:38of salt but the point is they say these
- 01:10:40must be banned you can't even enjoy car
- 01:10:42races in these two [ __ ] perfect
- 01:10:44world you can't enjoy art you can't
- 01:10:46enjoy sports you're just forced to put
- 01:10:48unending unyielding loyalty to the idea
- 01:10:50of Communism you can't be human so the
- 01:10:52obvious question remains Ms what about
- 01:10:54family one of the students says that
- 01:10:55he's a communist because he wants a
- 01:10:57better world for his mother but right
- 01:10:58there he has a distraction he's not
- 01:11:00putting unyielding faith into communism
- 01:11:02he's putting faith into the idea that
- 01:11:04things will get better for his family if
- 01:11:06something goes wrong and the Purity
- 01:11:07spiral begins he's immediately a Target
- 01:11:09why was he thinking of his mother why
- 01:11:11wasn't he thinking of everyone's mother
- 01:11:13why isn't he more loyal is he really so
- 01:11:15preoccupied with his own family that he
- 01:11:16wasn't thinking of the greater good this
- 01:11:18isn't a point I grabed out from under
- 01:11:19ard's massive fat ass this is something
- 01:11:22that actually happened during both
- 01:11:23Stalin and Ma's rise to power the two
- 01:11:25encourag children to report their
- 01:11:27parents to the state if they showed
- 01:11:28signs of discontent they tore apart the
- 01:11:30idea of familial loyalty solely so their
- 01:11:33people would only worship them you can't
- 01:11:35enjoy anything under communism you can't
- 01:11:37think about anything under communism
- 01:11:39only endless undying obsession with the
- 01:11:41system which at that point what the [ __ ]
- 01:11:43even are you a drone a worker ant denied
- 01:11:46your own individuality by [ __ ] who
- 01:11:48swear up and down that they freed you
- 01:11:50from your shackles which they say as
- 01:11:52they're locking the chains AR right
- 01:11:53right around your own neck it's
- 01:11:55disgusting it completely denies your own
- 01:11:57Humanity you might say this is an
- 01:11:58overreaction that this is just them
- 01:12:00encouraging you to see things through a
- 01:12:02Marxist lens oh I said sorry I meant
- 01:12:04mazovian lens but that lens is saying
- 01:12:06these things are bad and should be
- 01:12:07removed from society it's saying you can
- 01:12:09grow turnips if you just believe they
- 01:12:10will grow and adding water and sunlight
- 01:12:12to the crop is just the capitalist
- 01:12:14propaganda made to enslave you the
- 01:12:15religion comparison really is a Smoking
- 01:12:18Gun in a lot of ways because it reveals
- 01:12:20the Communists in the game to be
- 01:12:22Shameless zealots their God is the
- 01:12:24commune their sin is reactionary
- 01:12:26responses apostates of the Bourgeois
- 01:12:28hell dross is basically a priest just
- 01:12:30one that spouts communism instead of
- 01:12:32religion it promises Eternal salvation
- 01:12:35in the form of a better world while also
- 01:12:36saying the struggle is never ending
- 01:12:38until the entire planet is spouting
- 01:12:39their Doctrine it's an ideology of
- 01:12:41slavery and Conquest under the guise of
- 01:12:43humanitarianism and Liberation in the
- 01:12:45whole time you have men like Evar
- 01:12:47killing anyone who gets in his way and
- 01:12:49turning the city into a cartel state
- 01:12:51wild Pines and the Coalition aren't the
- 01:12:52heroes by any definition but that
- 01:12:54doesn't mean for a second the union or
- 01:12:55Draw are any better they're exactly is
- 01:12:58bloodthirsty and nihilistic something
- 01:13:00actually touched upon in the game After
- 01:13:02the Revolution the pale across the world
- 01:13:04grew larger it's still continuing to
- 01:13:06grow larger the way Society fought off
- 01:13:08the pale in the beginning was by
- 01:13:09building places of worship churches
- 01:13:11since they would give people spiritual
- 01:13:12fulfillment and allowed for Humanity to
- 01:13:14save off the pale since that's what it
- 01:13:16is human nihilism entropy incarnate the
- 01:13:19collective conscience of mankind made
- 01:13:21manifest in the form of a nightmarish
- 01:13:22entity that destroyed the very Universe
- 01:13:25around it the Communists say their
- 01:13:26ideology is the only one that can stop
- 01:13:28the pale if you read the novel the lead
- 01:13:29developer wrote that takes place in the
- 01:13:31same universe as the game it flly out
- 01:13:32says the way to stop the palis communism
- 01:13:34but that's ridiculous that book sucks
- 01:13:36ass don't use side material to justify
- 01:13:38lore in a game every ideology promises a
- 01:13:40better future all of them Communists say
- 01:13:42it will come from a grand Collective
- 01:13:43working together capitalists say it's
- 01:13:45from self-governance to allow the
- 01:13:47individual would be the master of their
- 01:13:48own fate fascists say it's from the
- 01:13:49collective becoming stronger as a nation
- 01:13:51they're all selling the same product
- 01:13:53just different terms for it all and it's
- 01:13:54not like communism have a United
- 01:13:56ideology anyway I already discussed the
- 01:13:58possibility of a purity spiral well the
- 01:13:59game itself shows that you can't get
- 01:14:01them all together to just collectively
- 01:14:03believe in infrom materialism Manana a
- 01:14:05guy who works for the union and is
- 01:14:07implied to be a communist is loyal to
- 01:14:09the union the one ran by a corrupt mob
- 01:14:11boss and is seen as a disgusting parody
- 01:14:13by dross dross himself doesn't think
- 01:14:15anyone but him is a communist everyone
- 01:14:17else are just poser stealing the label
- 01:14:19Cindy the skull is an antisocial
- 01:14:21Anarchist who doesn't give two shits
- 01:14:23about any idea of a collective good and
- 01:14:25everard is only interested in making
- 01:14:26sure he gets to sit on the throne at the
- 01:14:28end of the day now some people might
- 01:14:29shoot back and go well everard isn't
- 01:14:31technically communist he's socialist
- 01:14:32there's a difference to which I say not
- 01:14:34really he's bankrolling a strictly
- 01:14:36communist newsletter he worked with draw
- 01:14:39a avow communist D tried to teach him
- 01:14:42communist Doctrine there's really not
- 01:14:44much of a difference here it's just two
- 01:14:45different terms that all mean the same
- 01:14:47definition and it doesn't change the
- 01:14:48fact that he absolutely intended to have
- 01:14:50his fellow comrades killed for his own
- 01:14:52agenda that's what he intended to do
- 01:14:54with the Hardy Boys this is supposed to
- 01:14:56be an ideology of togetherness and not
- 01:14:58one of the Communists show any signs of
- 01:15:00actually doing that all the college
- 01:15:01students do all day is read
- 01:15:03marxists I meant movian literature and
- 01:15:06talk about how everyone except them are
- 01:15:07just bad Communists doing the exact
- 01:15:09thing that turned dross into a psychotic
- 01:15:11homicidal loner the ideology is about
- 01:15:13shutting out all doubt showing unending
- 01:15:15loyalty and nobody's actually ever done
- 01:15:18that because it's impossible we're human
- 01:15:20beings we're social animals we have our
- 01:15:21likes our dislikes our families our
- 01:15:23connections the things that keep us from
- 01:15:25becoming the slaves they want you to be
- 01:15:27when the ideology specifically says that
- 01:15:29art itself is a Bourgeois The Invention
- 01:15:32it must be thrown out dross outright
- 01:15:33says artist should be sent to a goog and
- 01:15:35shot art is a bourge establishment it's
- 01:15:39an a front to
- 01:15:40humanity every Gallery should be
- 01:15:43bulldozed and the artists should all be
- 01:15:45given 30 years of hard labor in yokata
- 01:15:50that should be the immediate sign this
- 01:15:51is all [ __ ] Art Is What Makes Us
- 01:15:53what we are more than just dumb Apes
- 01:15:55duking it out on a massive ball aren't
- 01:15:57is how we find out more about ourselves
- 01:15:59how we view the world our place in it
- 01:16:01it's something not even the Communists
- 01:16:02could rectify the Soviet Union had art
- 01:16:05they had painters musicians even video
- 01:16:07games and films their state tried to
- 01:16:09turn them all into propaganda films but
- 01:16:11there were artists that specifically
- 01:16:12bucked against that and wanted to make
- 01:16:13art for Art's Sake that's where you get
- 01:16:15movies like stalker or the hand which
- 01:16:17had pointed criticisms about the Soviet
- 01:16:19government and it demands to make art
- 01:16:21solely as a sign of loyalty also look
- 01:16:23into how the Soviet government [ __ ]
- 01:16:24over the creator of Tetris it's a story
- 01:16:26that will boil your blood disco elesium
- 01:16:28to me is a game about the failures of
- 01:16:30Communism not just the effects it has on
- 01:16:32the world but why it always fails
- 01:16:35because it demands human beings to stop
- 01:16:37being human to put aside our biases our
- 01:16:39connections to the world and blindly put
- 01:16:41total faith into an ideology to the
- 01:16:43point even members of it refer to it
- 01:16:44being like a religion that's impossible
- 01:16:46and is doomed to fail whether from
- 01:16:48sheltered intellectuals criticizing and
- 01:16:51subverting everything to the point they
- 01:16:52call turnup Farmers capitalist
- 01:16:54propagandists or the downright evil and
- 01:16:56criminal that view others around them as
- 01:16:58obstacles and have no qualms killing if
- 01:17:00it means they get what they want and
- 01:17:01honestly the most heartfelt moment of
- 01:17:03the game has nothing to do with politics
- 01:17:05there's a side quest that at first seems
- 01:17:07like a complete joke you mean a nice
- 01:17:09lady in the whirling Rags who talks
- 01:17:10about how her and her husband are
- 01:17:12cryptozoologists scientists who look for
- 01:17:14mythological creatures in the hopes of
- 01:17:15finding new species of animals the game
- 01:17:17mocks you relentlessly for following
- 01:17:19this from The Voice in your head saying
- 01:17:20it's not real to Kim to the side quest
- 01:17:23not producing any results they're
- 01:17:24looking for what's known as the Incy
- 01:17:26Indian fmid a type of stick bug rumored
- 01:17:28to be native in revisal as stated the
- 01:17:30game talks to you like you're an idiot
- 01:17:32for thinking any of this is true for
- 01:17:34asking about Cryptid and showing any
- 01:17:35sign you might believe the fine exists
- 01:17:37well at the end of the game when talking
- 01:17:39with dross you noce something is wrong
- 01:17:41with him he's twitching and is still
- 01:17:42energetic despite living for decades on
- 01:17:44this island and dealing with cancer you
- 01:17:46can pass a few perception Texs to figure
- 01:17:48out what's going on something is keeping
- 01:17:50him going not quite a puppet on strings
- 01:17:52but more like a toy with an old pair of
- 01:17:54batteries in it and then you discover it
- 01:17:57the fmid is real it's [ __ ] real the
- 01:18:00island dross has been staying on all
- 01:18:02this time contains the only living
- 01:18:04insulindian fmid not only can you see it
- 01:18:08you can talk to it Harry can pass a
- 01:18:10check that allows him to psychically
- 01:18:11communicate with the fmid now the fmid
- 01:18:14is basically like a child despite living
- 01:18:16for centuries seeing the different
- 01:18:17stages of History rivell has been
- 01:18:19through it's very innocent only caring
- 01:18:21enough to eat leaves and not much shs I
- 01:18:24think we should eat it if it's a leaf we
- 01:18:27can put it in your mouth or read yum yum
- 01:18:30you can talk to it about existence and
- 01:18:32deeper questions about everything the
- 01:18:33Fine's outright scared of blinking
- 01:18:35because it thinks it might wipe reality
- 01:18:37away it's a genuinely beautiful moment
- 01:18:39something that serves as a sort of true
- 01:18:40ending for the game realizing that this
- 01:18:42creature is still alive and even able to
- 01:18:44communicate you even get answers to some
- 01:18:46smaller questions like where certain
- 01:18:47items ended up that you couldn't find in
- 01:18:49the main campaign even establishing that
- 01:18:51the fmid emits a sort of neurot toxin
- 01:18:53it's harmless to humans for the most
- 01:18:55part but long-term exposure can rot your
- 01:18:57mind which is what happened to dross
- 01:18:59exposure to the fmid made him far more
- 01:19:01impulsive and rage filled taking his
- 01:19:03bitterness up a notch into outright
- 01:19:04manic anger that's not to say it's the
- 01:19:06fit's fault this all happened it has no
- 01:19:08idea it has that effect on humans and
- 01:19:10takes decades for it to develop all it
- 01:19:12really did was enhance the traits dross
- 01:19:14already had he already despised the
- 01:19:16world and the people in it the toxin
- 01:19:18from the fasma just made him lose
- 01:19:19impulse control you would have been fine
- 01:19:22if he simply didn't live alone on an
- 01:19:24island for over 40 years still the fmin
- 01:19:27is a fantastic reveal showing that even
- 01:19:29a world as Bleak and tired as disco
- 01:19:30elium still has potential for True
- 01:19:32wonder who knows what else is out there
- 01:19:34one day there could be even more species
- 01:19:36discovered maybe Humanity can find true
- 01:19:38answers for the pale maybe we can throw
- 01:19:40all the Communists into it so we don't
- 01:19:41have to deal with their stupid book
- 01:19:42clubs anymore it's just a big world
- 01:19:44right for exploration still then you get
- 01:19:46the actual ending of the game the
- 01:19:48debriefing after the events on the
- 01:19:50island Harry and Kim come back and are
- 01:19:52confronted by Harry old team his partner
- 01:19:54a fellow officer from the unit and a
- 01:19:56police psychologist they run down
- 01:19:58everything you did from discovering the
- 01:20:00truth behind the case two side quests
- 01:20:02the big goal is to convince your former
- 01:20:04partner a man named Jean to let you back
- 01:20:06to the unit personally I kind of wanted
- 01:20:08there to be an option where Harry gives
- 01:20:09these people the finger and quits
- 01:20:10because Jean is a massive [ __ ] yeah
- 01:20:13he's burned out from dealing with
- 01:20:14Harry's mental breakdown but the man
- 01:20:16contributed absolutely [ __ ] nothing
- 01:20:19to the case Harry a man they know is
- 01:20:21mentally unstable with is left to handle
- 01:20:23everything and they had the G to judge
- 01:20:25him based on his performance even after
- 01:20:27the tribunal when him and Kim are
- 01:20:29[ __ ] shot and left wounded the two
- 01:20:32were left to patch themselves up while
- 01:20:33they didn't even go visit them even
- 01:20:35though they were in the city they were
- 01:20:36literally in the same bar as them no a
- 01:20:39man and a woman sit in the front seat of
- 01:20:42an armored motor Carriage the woman is
- 01:20:44driving the man lights a cigarette Jean
- 01:20:47vicm is his name the asphal vanishes
- 01:20:51under the wheels of the machine
- 01:20:53ahead Harbor cranes rise to the sky back
- 01:20:56to that [ __ ] hole he says I called your
- 01:20:59station after the fight the injury was
- 01:21:01logged in they told me they've sent
- 01:21:03officers to join you on the site I'm
- 01:21:05sure they're worried about you that
- 01:21:07means he hasn't seen them around while
- 01:21:10you were out they're not really worried
- 01:21:13about you if they were wouldn't they be
- 01:21:15here yeah such great friends fantastic
- 01:21:18totally not a piece of [ __ ] thing to do
- 01:21:19there's being tired of dealing with a
- 01:21:20guy in a downward spiral then they're
- 01:21:22setting his yard on fire and complaining
- 01:21:23he didn't reimburse the cost of gasoline
- 01:21:25still it's a sort of final boss of the
- 01:21:27game to convince them Harry is still
- 01:21:29good enough to be a detective and if you
- 01:21:31did everything right you're allowed back
- 01:21:32on as stated I kind of wanted to I don't
- 01:21:34even want to come back ending with fit
- 01:21:36the fact Harry's burned out and has just
- 01:21:37seen too much maybe some variations
- 01:21:39depending on the style of cop you did
- 01:21:41like an art cop becomes a critic or a
- 01:21:42successful author I don't know
- 01:21:44regardless that's disco elium it's been
- 01:21:46a while since I made a video about a
- 01:21:48game and I hope this one lives up to the
- 01:21:49hype reminder the playthrough I did was
- 01:21:51just a singular one there's so much
- 01:21:53detail hidden inside that you could
- 01:21:54waste weeks trying to find them all the
- 01:21:56studio behind the game ended up being a
- 01:21:57lightning and a bottle situation making
- 01:21:59something absolutely fantastic and still
- 01:22:01debate back and forth to this day I
- 01:22:03recommend you all sit down and give
- 01:22:04disco elium a chance even if you have
- 01:22:07serious disagreements with developers
- 01:22:08politics which I understand if that's
- 01:22:10material people will just outright raise
- 01:22:12a finger towards and go [ __ ] you I laid
- 01:22:14out in this video how I heavily disagree
- 01:22:17with their intended audience but still
- 01:22:18find myself enjoying the game immensely
- 01:22:20besides the studio was bought out by the
- 01:22:22public and all the developers were fired
- 01:22:24so even if you buy the game they're not
- 01:22:25getting any money which is both a
- 01:22:27fitting ending for the studio and a
- 01:22:29tragedy very clearly not every developer
- 01:22:31was a communist I really recommend you
- 01:22:32guys check out that documentary and see
- 01:22:34how many people got roped into this
- 01:22:35whole thing and sucks they all got
- 01:22:36smeared by an ecomaniac who revealed to
- 01:22:38be a total hypocrite all he did was get
- 01:22:40a bunch of his communist friends from a
- 01:22:41far-left podcast to voice act really
- 01:22:43that was the extent of it he claimed he
- 01:22:45wrote half the [ __ ] game and there
- 01:22:46were tons of developers that came out
- 01:22:48and said no he's lying and some moments
- 01:22:50of the game really feel like a hidden
- 01:22:51[ __ ] you to the guy cuz some of this was
- 01:22:53so blatant it's it's honestly
- 01:22:54astonishing anyone could miss it and I
- 01:22:56must repeat that the actual story that
- 01:22:58happen in studio zom fits so well to the
- 01:23:00themes of the game just not the way
- 01:23:02anyone thought right now the fan base is
- 01:23:04[ __ ] livid at the news that there's
- 01:23:05even more layoffs going on in studio zom
- 01:23:07along with a canceled Sequel and
- 01:23:09expansion pack for the original disco
- 01:23:10elesium and it's something to where
- 01:23:12they're getting so angry that they're
- 01:23:13blaming literally everyone else it's a
- 01:23:16thing where people make games was blamed
- 01:23:19even at the time for being biased with
- 01:23:21their research even though if you
- 01:23:22watched the documentary they really
- 01:23:23weren't they did Lay hard into
- 01:23:25individuals that deserved it and they
- 01:23:27simply explored claims that nobody else
- 01:23:28wanted to look into such as CVS and his
- 01:23:31mistreatment of fellow employees
- 01:23:33something the fan base has downplayed to
- 01:23:35a degree that's honestly kind of
- 01:23:36disgusting I mean you have stories of a
- 01:23:38guy who's mentally abusing his employees
- 01:23:40and forcing them to Crunch and the whole
- 01:23:42time he's barely working himself and the
- 01:23:43response is well he's the Creator and
- 01:23:45this is his vision any other company and
- 01:23:48any other individual they'd be writing
- 01:23:49screed after screed about how this is
- 01:23:51mistreatment and just the capitalist
- 01:23:53system at work abusing people but
- 01:23:54because it's a communist and now out of
- 01:23:56nowhere well these are just the growing
- 01:23:58pains to make great art even though he's
- 01:24:00doing all the things that they
- 01:24:01themselves hate and the idea that people
- 01:24:03make games were responsible for what's
- 01:24:05going on with the studio now is just
- 01:24:06stupid all they did was release a
- 01:24:08documentary a documentary that revealed
- 01:24:10that these people were not exactly as
- 01:24:12leftist as they would have you believe
- 01:24:14in fact they were all over the place
- 01:24:16disorganized and didn't seem to really
- 01:24:18like each other the idea that a single
- 01:24:20documentary would affect anything at the
- 01:24:21company is honestly pretty revealing now
- 01:24:23they've tried to pull out a quote from
- 01:24:25Argo tulik where he essentially claims
- 01:24:28that the documentary did in fact affect
- 01:24:29the company and it allowed the venture
- 01:24:31capitalist to purge even more of the
- 01:24:32workforce to which I say how would a
- 01:24:34single documentary do that and obviously
- 01:24:36this is a process that's been in the
- 01:24:38works for a long time also ignoring the
- 01:24:40fact that the games industry all around
- 01:24:42has been suffering from massive layoffs
- 01:24:43from company to company Studio zom
- 01:24:45obviously would not be immune to this so
- 01:24:47once again blaming people make games for
- 01:24:49this just kind of feels like cope you
- 01:24:51know the one kid that spoils everything
- 01:24:52by pointing out what actually happened
- 01:24:54and they have to beat him down so they
- 01:24:55can still live in their delusion that
- 01:24:57this was a purely Marxist game and there
- 01:24:58was never any infighting and it's just
- 01:25:00capitalism destroying art who cares if
- 01:25:02kurvitz did some shady and illegal
- 01:25:04things himself because well he's a
- 01:25:05Marxist and what he's fighting for is so
- 01:25:07important that you can look past those
- 01:25:09things but everyone else the investors
- 01:25:11they're terrible because they're
- 01:25:12capitalists so when they do shady and
- 01:25:14illegal things you have to point that
- 01:25:15out once again it's a double standard
- 01:25:17something that I've pointed out
- 01:25:18throughout the game is actually kind of
- 01:25:20woven into the writing that the mark ISM
- 01:25:22and ideology aspect is all just puff
- 01:25:25pieces and people deep down show you who
- 01:25:27they really are actually it appears the
- 01:25:30Argo quote was completely taken out of
- 01:25:33context he went on to clarify on Twitter
- 01:25:36that he doesn't blame people make games
- 01:25:38in the slightest for his firing in fact
- 01:25:41he praised the documentary and said it
- 01:25:43meant a lot to the developers of disco
- 01:25:46alysium who were overshadowed by the
- 01:25:49slap fight between kurvitz his friends
- 01:25:52and the executives even calling it the
- 01:25:55one good thing that happened to them in
- 01:25:572023 I doubt for a second that the more
- 01:26:00radical aspects of the Disco elesium fan
- 01:26:02base will ever have any form of
- 01:26:03introspection in fact they'll just
- 01:26:05double down and continue to blame
- 01:26:07everyone but themselves why the game
- 01:26:08flopped they decided to tout the game as
- 01:26:10a communist Masterpiece and they were
- 01:26:12shocked that the general public didn't
- 01:26:14really support it enough or even really
- 01:26:15care when Studio zom was shut down cuz
- 01:26:18remember to certain parts of the world
- 01:26:21communism is the exct same thing as the
- 01:26:23Nazis so when they hear about Studio Z
- 01:26:25an openly communist game Studio being
- 01:26:27shut down they basically view it the
- 01:26:29same thing as the ethnic cleansing
- 01:26:31Studio being shut down to them it's
- 01:26:33nothing but a net positive for the world
- 01:26:34because their poison can no longer
- 01:26:36spread now once again disco elesium is a
- 01:26:39lot more than the communism but that's
- 01:26:41what the fan base wanted to push so now
- 01:26:43they get to suffer the consequences and
- 01:26:45the whole time they'll still be Purity
- 01:26:47spiraling and blaming everything else
- 01:26:49beyond their own actions that's the
- 01:26:51problem with a lot of gaming today very
- 01:26:53little will people actually sit down and
- 01:26:55play through something they tend to rely
- 01:26:56on YouTube videos just explain things to
- 01:26:58them certain franchises especially
- 01:27:00struggle with this it's just plain sucks
- 01:27:02to be a Persona fan right now cuz how
- 01:27:03many video essays completely missed the
- 01:27:05point of certain plot elements and
- 01:27:06millions of people have vastly different
- 01:27:07views of the game that one is actually
- 01:27:09there and I'm sure certain fans of disco
- 01:27:11Elum will probably say the same thing
- 01:27:12about this video regardless I think it's
- 01:27:14about time to wrap things up this video
- 01:27:16ended up being kind of a monster though
- 01:27:18it definitely needed to be this is a
- 01:27:19very big game and just the little bit I
- 01:27:21talked about requ Ires a lot of context
- 01:27:23I didn't even go into all the political
- 01:27:25quests and how even those have multiple
- 01:27:26endings still hopefully this gives you
- 01:27:28guys A New Perspective on Disco elisium
- 01:27:30If even a capitalist Pig like me can
- 01:27:31find tons of enjoyment in it there's
- 01:27:33very clearly something there for anyone
- 01:27:35to appreciate until next time please
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- 01:27:39see you
- 01:27:42guys especially in light of his
- 01:27:44political views detective du is as you
- 01:27:47may know a hustler he grinds he makes
- 01:27:51the r
- 01:27:52he's a Visionary and a money engineer
- 01:27:55which is just other still he is also
- 01:27:59mazovian socio Economist who believes in
- 01:28:01liquidating the ruling class how he
- 01:28:04reconciles these two points of view I do
- 01:28:06not know but he is V on both of them hey
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