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>> WELCOME BACK.
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THE RETAIL SECTOR HAS BEEN
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UNPRECEDENTED UPHEAVAL OVER THE
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LAST SEVERAL YEARS WITH EVEN
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MORE CHANGES LIKELY COMING IN
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THE COMING YEAR.
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CNBC SPOKE WITH INDUSTRY
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EXECUTIVES ON THE STATE OF
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RETAIL AND WHAT THEY PREDICT
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THE RETAIL LANDSCAPE WILL BE
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LIKE.
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FIVE YEARS FROM NOW.
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CURRENT AND FORMER CEOS WEIGHED
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IN ON A NUMBER OF TOPICS AND
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CHALLENGES CURRENTLY FACING THE
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INDUSTRY.
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JOINING US ON SITE ARE THE
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AUTHORS OF THAT ARTICLE, CNBC'S
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OWN MELISSA ROCCO AND GABRIELLE
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FROM -- THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR
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BEING HERE.
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MELISSA, LET'S START WITH YOU.
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BECAUSE IT FEELS LIKE IN THIS
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KIND OF POST PANDEMIC ERA, WE
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LOOK BACK, AND THERE WERE SO
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MUCH CHANGE THAT TOOK PLACE
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FROM SUPPLY CHAIN, TO
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TECHNOLOGY ADOPTION, TO JUST
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THE WAY THAT CONSUMERS ARE
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PURCHASING THINGS.
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YOU KNOW, ADOPTING MORE E-
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COMMERCE HABITS, ONLINE
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SHOPPING HABITS FOR EXAMPLE
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WHEN YOU'RE STUCK AT HOME.
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HOW DID THAT TIME PERIOD REALLY
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RESHAPE RETAIL?
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AND HOW ARE CEOS LOOKING AT
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THAT AS MAYBE ACCELERATING SOME
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TRENDS THAT COULD'VE HAPPENED
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FIVE YEARS FROM NOW?
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OR THREE YEARS FROM NOW?
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>> ONE OF THE RESOUNDING
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TAKEAWAYS, LESLIE, WHEN WE
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SPOKE TO CEOS AS WE TALKED
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ABOUT THE IMPORTANCE OF THE
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STORE.
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I THINK DURING THE PANDEMIC, A
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LOT OF US THOUGHT THEY WOULD
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FADE FROM RELEVANCE BUT NOW
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THOSE STORES ARE PLAYING A
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CRITICAL PART OF THE BUSINESS
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BY SERVING AS FULFILLMENT
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CENTERS.
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THEY'RE NOT JUST HELPING A
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COMPANY SHOW OFF THEIR PRODUCT,
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THEIR HELPING PACK AND PICK AND
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DELIVER ORDERS AND GET CLOSER
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TO THAT CUSTOMER BREAKDOWN
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COST.
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PEOPLE OF A BRACE ONLINE
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SHOPPING.
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THE TWO HAVE TO BE COMBINING,
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AND WORKING TOGETHER.
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>> SO OBVIOUSLY, THE STORE,
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VERY IMPORTANT.
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AND SHOCKINGLY, UBIQUITOUS.
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ESPECIALLY SINCE I THINK IF WE
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WERE HAVING THIS DISCUSSION,
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MAYBE TEN YEARS AGO, LOOKING
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AHEAD TO WHAT FIVE YEARS WOULD
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BE.
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EVERYONE WOULD SAY, OH,
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COMPLETE, AMAZON IS TAKING OVER
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THE WORLD.
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E-COMMERCE IS THE WAY OF THE
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FUTURE.
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BUT I THINK WE LEARNED THAT
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PEOPLE DO ENJOY THAT IN STORE
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EXPERIENCE.
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AND GABY, ONE THING THAT REALLY
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STRUCK ME FROM YOUR PIECE IS
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JUST WHAT THE CEOS ARE
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EXPECTING IN TERMS OF
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TECHNOLOGY, AND HOW IT'S NOT
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NECESSARILY A REPLACEMENT FOR
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BRICK AND MORTAR BUT SOMETHING
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THAT IS ADDITIVE TO THAT
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EXPERIENCE.
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>> YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT.
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THIS IDEA THAT RETAIL INSTEAD
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IS COMPLETELY FALSE I MEAN WE
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EVEN SPOKE WITH CEOS OF
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DIGITALLY NATIVE COMPANIES
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TALKING ABOUT THE IMPORTANCE OF
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STORES, AS IT IS FOR CUSTOMER
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ACQUISITION.
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THERE'S SO MUCH TECHNOLOGY CAN
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HAVE IN THE STORE NOW.
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SOMETHING THAT THIS EPO OF
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NEWMAN MARKUS MENTIONED TO ME
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IS THAT WHEN IT COMES TO LUXURY
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IT'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO BRING IN
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A FULL SENSORY EXPERIENCE, WITH
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THE SMELL IN SOUND AND VISUALS.
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HAVING THAT OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE
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A THREE 60 EXPERIENCE WITH THE
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PRODUCT.
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EVEN SOMETHING AS SIMPLE AS
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FITTING ROOM TECHNOLOGY.
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HOW THAT CAN INCORPORATE
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BETWEEN ONLINE SHOPPING IN
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STORE SHOPPING.
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GETTING THAT FIT CORRECTLY,
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WITH A MIRROR THAT KNOWS YOU
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BETTER THAN YOU DO.
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AND WHAT THEY SAID IS THAT IS
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GOING TO LOWER RETURNS,
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INCREASED CUSTOMER
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SATISFACTION, SO MUCH FUN
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THINGS TO COME.
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[LAUGHTER]
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>> IT SOUNDS A BIT LIKE, OKAY,
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NOT SURE.
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>> ONE OF THE PEOPLE YOU SPOKE
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TO SAID THAT THE SEARCH ENGINE
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IS GOING TO BE LIKE THE
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CASSETTE TAPE.
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WHAT WAS THAT -- ?
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>> THAT WAS MARK LORI.
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FORMERLY OF WALMART.
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HE RAN WALMART E-COMMERCE
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BUSINESS AFTER WALMART MADE A
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VERY BIG ACQUISITION.
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HE WAS, HIS POINT THERE WAS
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THAT WITH ARTIFICIAL
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INTELLIGENCE, THE INTENT OF A
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CUSTOMER IS GOING TO BE MUCH
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MORE UNDERSTOOD.
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YOU'RE NOT GONNA BE GOING TO
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AMAZON.COM, OR WALMART.COM AND
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TYPING IN RED SWEATER.
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THERE'S GOING TO BE A BETTER
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UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT YOU WANT
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BASED ON YOUR SHOPPING HISTORY
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AND YOUR ENGAGEMENT, THROUGH
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MAYBE A CHATBOT, HOW YOU USE
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THE MOBILE APP OF A COMPANY.
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IT'S GOING TO KNOW YOU MUCH
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BETTER.
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AND THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE
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THIS KIND OF LIKE, HE WAS KIND
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OF DESCRIBING, SEARCH ENGINES
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ARE GONNA LOOK REALLY DUMB.
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THEY WON'T KNOW WHAT YOU WANT.
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THEY WON'T KNOW YOU AT ALL.
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INSTEAD, WE'RE MOVING TO A
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WORLD WHERE RETAILERS, IF THEY
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DO IT RIGHT, WILL SERVE ALMOST
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AS A DIGITAL ASSISTANT.
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THEY WILL BE PROVIDING THAT,
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ALMOST LIKE A BEST FRIEND WHO
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KNOWS EXACTLY THE KIND OF
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SWEATER YOU MIGHT WANT, THAT
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YOU'RE LIVING IN A CLIMATE THAT
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YOU MIGHT NOT NEED A SWEATER,
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YOU MAY NEED A SHORT SLEEVE
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SHIRT FOR VALENTINE'S DAY FOR
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EXAMPLE.
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KIND OF GETTING TO KNOW YOU
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BETTER AND BEING MORE
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SOPHISTICATED AND CUSTOMIZING
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THAT EXPERIENCE.
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>> ALMOST A LITTLE CREEPY TO,
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LIKE THE MIRROR.
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>> ABSOLUTELY.
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>> GABY, HOW ARE YOU SEEING,
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BASED ON THE PROGNOSTICATIONS
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OF WHAT THESE EXECUTIVE C FOR
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THE NEXT FIVE YEARS, HOW ARE
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YOU SEEING INVESTMENTS TODAY
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TAKING PLACE AT THESE RETAILERS
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-- DO YOU THINK THAT THEY ARE
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MAKING THE APPROPRIATE
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INVESTMENTS TO BE READY FOR
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FIVE YEARS FROM NOW?
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OR DO YOU THINK THERE'S SOME
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SIGNIFICANT GAPS OUT THERE?
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>> IT'S A GREAT QUESTION.
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BECAUSE COVID REALLY
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ACCELERATED THIS TIMELINE.
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YOU TOUCHED ON AT THE BEGINNING
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OF THIS CONVERSATION, THESE ARE
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CHANGES THAT WERE COMING, BUT
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THAT COVID MADE SO MUCH FASTER.
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THERE IS A LOT OF REACTIVENESS
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OVER THE LAST THREE YEARS, NOW
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IS RETURNING INTO 2024,
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RETAILERS ARE IN A POSITION
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WHERE THEY'RE TRYING TO BE A
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BIT MORE PROACTIVE IN GETTING
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TO THE RIGHT PLACE.
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INVESTING IN THE RIGHT
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TECHNOLOGIES.
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EVERYONE ALWAYS SAYS THOUGH
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THAT THE RETAIL INDUSTRY IS SO
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FAR BEHIND WHEN IT COMES TO
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TECHNOLOGY.
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SO THERE'S ABSOLUTELY A LOT OF
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GAPS, BUT WE ARE SEEING A LOT
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OF RETAILERS LEAN INTO A.I..
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THEY ARE DOING SOME THINGS WITH
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IT NOW.
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NOTHING SUPER COOL AND
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EXCITING.
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I'VE YET TO BE WOWED.
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BUT IN THE NEXT FIVE YEARS FROM
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NOW, IF THEY REALLY FOCUS ON
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THE OPERATIONS, FOCU