What is the goal for reducing the deficit?

To reduce the deficit from $2 trillion to $1 trillion, a 50% cut.

What is Doge's approach to cutting waste and fraud?

They aim to reduce waste and fraud by $4 billion a day.

How is the retirement process being modernized?

The retirement process is being moved online to reduce paperwork and improve speed.

What technology is being used to prevent fraud?

They are improving IT systems and database connectivity to prevent fraudulent claims.

Who supports the initiatives undertaken by Doge?

The initiatives have support from the President and various members of congress, particularly Republicans.

What is being done about the age discrepancies in Social Security data?

The team is systematically identifying and correcting fraudulent entries, including those for individuals marked as alive over age 120.

Is transparency part of the initiative's goals?

Absolutely, all spending data is published for public scrutiny.

How many IRS employees are involved in provisioning laptops?

There are about 1400 IRS employees dedicated to provisioning laptops and cell phones.

What issues exist with the Medicare and Medicaid systems?

The systems are outdated, with issues relating to IT not communicating effectively.

Are there any layoffs happening in the Doge team?

No, the focus is on voluntary retirements and treating employees with care.

Elon Musk and DOGE team give behind the scenes look at their mission

00:38:46

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7kQNwJ4H_w

Zusammenfassung

TLDRThe discussion focuses on efforts led by Elon Musk and his team to reduce government waste, fraud, and streamline federal operations with the aim of cutting the budget deficit significantly. They outline their ambitious goal of halving a $2 trillion deficit and cite shocking examples of waste encountered, such as exorbitant payments for simple tasks. The team emphasizes their commitment to real-time waste reduction and modernizing government processes, particularly in retirement system upgrades and fraud prevention. The conversation highlights the critical need for transparency and efficiency in government spending and responses to concerns about how changes might affect existing benefits.

Mitbringsel

💰 Goal to cut deficit by $1 trillion.
🚫 Aiming for $4 billion waste reduction daily.
📄 Modernizing retirement process to digital.
🛡️ Focus on preventing fraud in Social Security.
🔍 Transparency is key in all spending initiatives.
👥 Support from Republicans and some Democrats.
🖥️ Upgrading outdated IT systems in federal agencies.
📉 Reducing unnecessary staffing in government agencies.
⚖️ Commitment to treat employees with respect in all processes.

Zeitleiste

00:00:00 - 00:05:00
Bret opens the discussion, expressing gratitude to Elon for joining the conversation about budgetary savings goals. Elon outlines the aim to reduce a $2 trillion deficit by $1 trillion and decrease federal spending from $7 trillion to $6 trillion, emphasizing a 15% reduction through eliminating waste and fraud without affecting critical services.
00:05:00 - 00:10:00
Elon describes the staggering levels of waste in government, with examples of inefficiencies, such as a $1 billion charge for a simple survey. Bret inquires about the timeline for completing this work and Elon suggests that they can achieve significant savings within 130 days, reducing waste and fraud in real-time.
00:10:00 - 00:15:00
Bret discusses criticisms of the approach, to which Elon responds by asserting their careful strategy in making cuts while acknowledging the inevitability of mistakes and the importance of correcting them quickly. Steve Davis, a key member of the team, expresses his passion for the mission and belief in the administration supporting the endeavor.
00:15:00 - 00:20:00
The discussion shifts to the specific savings being found, including a notable example of $830 million from a survey, and the insistence on transparency in DOGE's operations through their website. Bret asks about Congress's involvement, and it is noted that they are kept informed despite bipartisan challenges faced by DOGE.
00:20:00 - 00:25:00
Anthony Armstrong, a new participant, discusses the inefficiencies in the retirement system management, with a particularly antiquated paper-based process identified as problematic. He emphasizes the need for modernization and an online system to expedite retiree processing.
00:25:00 - 00:30:00
A DOGE engineer highlights the outdated IT infrastructure costing the government billions, where many critical systems are over 50 years old. The conversation paves the way for discussions on necessary upgrades to systems like Social Security to prevent fraud and improve user experience.
00:30:00 - 00:38:46
At HHS, efforts are focused on enhancing biomedical research funding distribution by streamlining systems and reducing bureaucratic red tape to allocate more resources directly to researchers, linking this to improved health policy outcomes.

Mind Map

Video-Fragen und Antworten

What is the goal for reducing the deficit?
To reduce the deficit from $2 trillion to $1 trillion, a 50% cut.
What is Doge's approach to cutting waste and fraud?
They aim to reduce waste and fraud by $4 billion a day.
How is the retirement process being modernized?
The retirement process is being moved online to reduce paperwork and improve speed.
What technology is being used to prevent fraud?
They are improving IT systems and database connectivity to prevent fraudulent claims.
Who supports the initiatives undertaken by Doge?
The initiatives have support from the President and various members of congress, particularly Republicans.
What is being done about the age discrepancies in Social Security data?
The team is systematically identifying and correcting fraudulent entries, including those for individuals marked as alive over age 120.
Is transparency part of the initiative's goals?
Absolutely, all spending data is published for public scrutiny.
How many IRS employees are involved in provisioning laptops?
There are about 1400 IRS employees dedicated to provisioning laptops and cell phones.
What issues exist with the Medicare and Medicaid systems?
The systems are outdated, with issues relating to IT not communicating effectively.
Are there any layoffs happening in the Doge team?
No, the focus is on voluntary retirements and treating employees with care.

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>> Bret: THANKS FOR HAVING US
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AND DOING THIS.
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I KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF INTEREST
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IN THIS.
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YOU KNOW, FIRST, LET ME START
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WITH YOU, ELON.
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WHAT ARE THE BUDGETARY SAVINGS
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GOALS AND HOW MUCH DO YOU THINK
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YOU HAVE ACHIEVED SO FAR?
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>> OUR GOAL IS TO REDUCE THE
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DEFICIT BY A TRILLION DOLLARS.
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SO, FROM A NOMINAL DEFICIT OF
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2 TRILLION TO TRY TO CUT IT IN
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HALF TO 1 TRILLION.
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LOOKED AT IN TOTAL FEDERAL
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SPENDING TO DROP THE FEDERAL
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SPENDING FROM 7 TRILLION TO
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6 TRILLION.
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WE WANT TO REDUCE THE SPENDING
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BY ELIMINATING WASTE AND FRAUD
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AND REDUCE THE SPENDING BY 15%.
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WHICH SEEMS REALLY QUITE OEA
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ACHIEVABLE.
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THE GOVERNMENT IS NOT EFFICIENT.
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AND THERE IS A LOT OF WASTE AND
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FRAUD.
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SO, WE FEEL CONFIDENT THAT A 15%
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REDUCTION CAN BE DONE WITHOUT
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AFFECTING ANY OF THE CRITICAL
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GOVERNMENT SERVICES.
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>> Bret: I WANT TO TALK.
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>> MAKING IT BETTER.
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>> Bret: TALK TO ALL THE GUYS
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HERE ABOUT SPECIFICS.
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BUT FOR YOU WHAT IS THE MOST
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ASTONISHING THING YOU FOUND OUT
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IN THIS PROCESS.
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>> THE SHEAR AMOUNT OF WASTE AND
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FRAUD IN THE GOVERNMENT.
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IT IS ASTONISHING.
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IT'S MIND-BLOWING.
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WE ROUTINELY ENCOUNTER WASTE OF
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A BILLION DOLLARS OR MORE.
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CASUALLY.
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YOU KNOW, FOR EXAMPLE, LIKE THE
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SIMPLE SURVEY THAT WAS --
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LITERALLY 10-QUESTION SURVEY DO
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YOU U. DUE IT WITH SURVEY MONKEY
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$10,000.
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THE GOVERNMENT WAS BEING CHARGED
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ALMOST A BILLION DOLLARS FOR
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THAT.
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>> Bret: FOR JUST A SURVEY.
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>> FOR A BILLION DOLLARS FOR
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ONLINE SURVEY DO YOU LIKE THE
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NATIONAL PARK.
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WHAT HE WILL BE DONE WITH THAT
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SURVEY.
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SURVEY GOING TO NOTHING.
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>> Bret: YOU TECHNICALLY ARE A
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SPECIAL GOVERNMENT EMPLOYEE.
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YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO BE 130 DAYS.
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ARE YOU GOING TO CONTINUE PAST
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THAT OR DO YOU THINK THAT'S
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THE-WHAT YOU ARE GOING TO DO?
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>> I THINK WE WILL HAVE
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ACCOMPLISHED MOST OF THE WORK
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REQUIRED TO REDUCE THE DEFICIT
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BY A TRILLION DOLLARS WITHIN
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THAT TIME FRAME.
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>> Bret: SO, IN THAT TIME FRAME,
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130 DAYS?
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>> YES.
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>> Bret: AND THE PROCESS IS A
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REPORT AT SOME POINT?
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100 DAYS?
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>> NOT REALLY A REPORT.
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WE ARE CUTTING THE WASTE AND
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FRAUD IN REAL TIME.
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EVERY DAY THAT PASSES, OUR GOAL
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IS TO REDUCE THE WASTE AND FRAUD
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BY $4 BILLION A DAY EVERY DAY
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SEVEN DAYS A WEEK.
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SO FAR WE ARE SUCCEEDING.
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>> Bret: GOING TO TALK TO THE
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SPECIFICS, THERE OBVIOUSLY ARE
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DOGE CRITICS WHO ARE READING ALL
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KINDS OF STUFF, OBVIOUSLY
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LAWMAKERS ON THE OTHER SIDE OF
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THE AISLE ARE ATTACKING YOU.
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AND THEY CHARACTERIZE THE
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APPROACH AS.
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THIS FIRE READY AND THEN AIM.
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AND THEN HOW DO YOU APPROACH
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THAT?
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HOW DO YOU RESPOND TO THAT?
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>> WELL, I DO AGREE THAT WE
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ACTUALLY WANT TO BE CAREFUL IN
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THE CUTS.
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WE WANT TO MEASURE TWICE IF NOT
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TRIES AND CUT ONCE.
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AND ACTUALLY THAT IS OUR
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APPROACH.
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THEY MAY CHARACTERIZE IT AS
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SHOOTING FROM THE HIP, BUT IT IS
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ANYTHING BUT THAT.
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WHICH IS NOT TO SAY WE DON'T
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MAKE MISTAKES.
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IF WE WERE TO APPROACH THIS WITH
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THE STANDARD OF MAKING NO
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MISTAKES AT ALL, THAT WOULD BE
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LIKE SAYING SOMEONE IN BASEBALL
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IS GOING TO BAT 1,000.
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THAT'S IMPOSSIBLE.
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SO, WHEN WE DO MAKE MISTAKES.
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WE CORRECT THEM QUICKLY.
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AND WE MOVE ON.
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>> Bret: SOME PEOPLE SAY THIS
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SHOULDN'T TAKE A ROCKET
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SCIENTIST.
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STEVE DAVIS, YOU ARE A ROCKET
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SCIENTIST.
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>> USED TO BE.
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[LAUGHTER]
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>> Bret: NOW ESSENTIALLY YOU ARE
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THE CHIEF OPERATING OFFICER OF
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DOGE.
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DAY-TO-DAY OPERATIONS.
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FAIR TO SAY?
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>> YEAH.
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PART OF THE DOGE TEAM.
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>> Bret: SO HOW DID YOU END UP
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HERE?
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WHAT'S THE BIGGEST CHALLENGE YOU
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SEE?
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>> THE REASON I'M HERE, WHICH
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WHICH IS PROBABLY FOR MANY IS I
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THINK THE GOAL IS INCREDIBLY
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INSPIRING.
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I THINK MOST OF THE TAXPAYERS IN
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THE COUNTRY WOULD AGREE THAT IN
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ORDER TO HAVE AT COUNTRY GOING
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BANKRUPT WOULD BE VERY BAD THICK
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AND THEREFORE THE COUNTRY NOT
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GOING BANKRUPT IS A GOOD THING.
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THAT ALL OF US ARE WILLING TO
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KIND OF PUT OUR LIVES ON HOLD IN
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ORDER TO DO.
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THE THING THAT'S SPECIAL RIGHT
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NOW, WE ACTUALLY BELIEVE THERE
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IS A CHANCE TO SUCCEED.
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THAT THERE IS AN ADMINISTRATION
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THAT IS SUPPORTIVE AND A GREAT
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CABINET AND JUST A GREAT GROUP
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THAT WILL ACTUALLY MAKE SUCCESS
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A POSSIBLE OUTCOME.
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AND I THINK THAT'S GIVEN THE
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INSPIRING MISSION AND GIVEN THE
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NONZERO CHANCE OF SUCCESS IT WAS
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WORTH DOING.
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>> I WOULD LIKE TO REEMPHASIZE
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THAT POINT.
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THE SUCCESS OF DOGE IS ONLY
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POSSIBLE WITH PRESIDENT TRUMP
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AND WITH THE OUTSTANDING CABINET
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THAT HE SELECTED.
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IT WOULD BE IMPOSSIBLE WITHOUT
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THE SUPPORT OF THE PRESIDENT AND
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THE CABINET.
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>> Bret: BUT YOU ARE FINDING THE
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MONEY.
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I MEAN, IT'S BIG NUMBERS.
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RIGHT?
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>> YEAH.
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LIKE HE SAID THE MINIMUM IS OFF
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A BILLION DOLLARS.
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OVER $830 MILLION WHICH WAS THE
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ONLINE SURVEY.
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THAT'S AN ENORMOUS AMOUNT OF
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MONEY THAT WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN
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FOUND IF THE DOGE TEAM WASN'T
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WORKING WITH THAT IN THAT CASE
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THE DEPARTMENT OF INTERIOR AND
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TAKING IT ONE STEP FURTHER.
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DOGE PUBLISHES THESE THINGS ON
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OUR WEBSITE FOR MAXIMUM
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TRANSPARENCY.
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NOW THE GENERAL PUBLIC, IT WOULD
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HAVE BEEN IMPOSSIBLE FOR THE
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GENERAL PUBLIC TO HAVE SEEN THAT
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NOW ANYONE CAN JUST LOG INTO TO
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DOGE DOTTED GOV AND SEE THESE
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PAYMENTS.
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NOT YET IN REAL TIME, CLOSE,
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PROBABLY BE IN REAL TIME THE
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NEXT FEW WEEKS.
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>> Bret: THE PROCESS STILL
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INVOLVES CONGRESS, RIGHT?
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AT SOME LEVEL.
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>> WE TRY TO KEEP CONGRESS AS
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INFORMED AS POSSIBLE.
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THE LAW DOES SAY THAT MONEY
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NEEDS TO BE SPENT CORRECTLY IT.
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SHOULD NOT BE SPENT FRAUDULENTLY
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OR WASTEFULLY.
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IT'S NOT CONTRARY TO CONGRESS TO
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AVOID WASTE AND FRAUD.
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IT'S CONSISTENT WITH THE LAW AND
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CONSISTENT WITH CONGRESS.
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WE HAVE SEEN ACTUALLY GREAT
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SUPPORT, AT LEAST FROM THE
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REPUBLICAN SIDE OF THE HOUSE AND
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OCCASIONALLY SOME DEMOCRATS,
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TOO.
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YOU KNOW, IT'S NICE TO SEE
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PEOPLE CROSS THE AISLE ONCE IN A
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WHILE.
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BUT, USUALLY WHEN THEY ATTACK
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DOGE, THEY NEVER ATTACK ANY OF
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THE SPECIFICS.
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SO THEY WILL SAY WHAT WE'RE
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DOING IS SOMEHOW
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UNCONSTITUTIONAL OR ILLEGAL OR
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WHATEVER.
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WE ARE LIKE WELL, WHICH LANE
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LINE OF THE COST SAVINGS DO YOU
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DISAGREE WITH?
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AND THEY CAN'T POINT TO ANY.
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AND WE LIST THEM ALL ON
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DOGE.GOV.
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AND THE DOGE HANDLE ON X.
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AND YOU WILL SEE JUST OUTRAGEOUS
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THINGS.
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ONE OUTRAGEOUS THING AFTER
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ANOTHER.
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>> Bret: BESIDES ELON, YOU ARE
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ONE OF SEVERAL BILLIONAIRES
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HERE.
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CO-FOUNDER OF AIR B AND N AND
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YOU WANTED TO HELP OUT?
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I BUMPED INTO ANTHONY AND ELON
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IN FEBRUARY.
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A LINE DEALT WITH RETIREMENT.
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SOMEBODY TO HELP OUT TO FIX
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RETIREMENT IN THE GOVERNMENT.
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I LOVED THE CHALLENGE SO I
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JUMPED ON BOARD.
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IT TURNS OUT THERE IS ACTUALLY A
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MINE IN PENNSYLVANIA THAT HOUSES
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EVERY PAPER DOCUMENT FOR THE
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RETIREMENT PROCESS IN THE
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GOVERNMENT.
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NOW, PICTURE THIS.
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THIS GIANT CAVE HAS 22,000
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FILING CABINETS STACKED 10 HIGH
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TO HOUSE 400 MILLION PIECES OF
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PAPER.
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IT'S A PROCESS THAT STARTED IN
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THE 1950s AND LARGELY HASN'T
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CHANGED IN THE LAST 70 YEARS.
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AND SO AS YOU DUG INTO IT, WE
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FOUND A RETIREMENT CASES THAT
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HAD SO MUCH PAPER THEY HAD TO
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FIT IT ON A SHIPPING PALLET.
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SO, THE PROCESS TAKES MANY
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MONTHS AND WE'RE GOING TO MAKE
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IT JUST MANY DAYS.
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>> Bret: WILL IT BE DIGITIZED?
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>> ONLINE DIGITAL PROCESS TAKE
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JUST A FEW DAYS AT MOST.
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IT'S AN INJUSTICE TO CIVIL
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SERVANTS WHO ARE SUBJECTED TO
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THESE PROCESSES THAT ARE OLDER
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THAN THE AGE OF HALF THE PEOPLE
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WATCHING YOUR SHOW TONIGHT.
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SO, WE REALLY BELIEVE THAT THE
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GOVERNMENT CAN HAVE AN APPLE
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STORE LIKE EXPERIENCE.
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BEAUTIFULLY DESIGNED.
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GREAT EASIER EXPERIENCE, MODERN
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SYSTEMS.
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>> Bret: RIGHT NOW, IT'S BY
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HAND?
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>> YES.
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THE RETIREMENT PROCESS A ALL BY
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PAPER.
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ESPECIALLY WITH PEOPLE CARRYING
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PAPER IN MANILA ENVELOPES INTO
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THIS GIGANTIC MINE.
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>> Bret: CAN'T RETIRE ABOUT A
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CERTAIN NUMBER EVERY MONTH.
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>> ABOUT 8,000 A MONTH.
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>> THE REASON WE DISCOVERED IT
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WELL, LET'S ENCOURAGE VOLUNTARY
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RETIREMENT.
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MOST THEY COULD DO IS 8,000 A
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MONTH.
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AND EVEN ALL CIRCUMSTANCES IT
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CAN TAKE 6 TO NINE MONTHS JUST
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TO HAVE YOUR RETIREMENT
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PAPERWORK PROCESSED AND OFTEN
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GET THE CALCULATIONS WRONG.
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WE ARE LIKE WHY WOULD IT TAKE SO
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LONG TO RETIRE?
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AND THEY'RE LIKE WELL, BECAUSE
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OF THE MINE.
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WHAT DO YOU MEAN THE MINE?
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WHAT'S THE MINE GOT TO DO WITH
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RETIRING.
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THAT'S WHERE WE DISCOVERED THAT
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ALL THE RETIREMENT STUFF IS
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STILL DONE BY PAPER IN A PROCESS
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THAT LOOKS IDENTICAL TO WHAT
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OCCURRED IN THE 1950s.
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I CAN TAKE A SNAPSHOT IN THE
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MINE WHEN IT FIRST STARTED IN
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THE 1950s TO TODAY AND IT
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LOOKS THE SAME.
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>> Bret: AMAZING.
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HOW LONG WILL IT TAKE TO TURN
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OVER.
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>> WE ARE WORKING AS QUICK AS WE
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CAN PROBABLY NEXT COUPLE MONTHS
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HAVE IT OVERHAULED.
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WHY ARE WE SUBJECTING OUR
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FEDERAL WORKERS TO PROCESSES
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THAT THEY ACTUALLY HAVE TO GO
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THROUGH A TRAINING JUST TO
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RETIRE FROM THE GOVERNMENT.
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WHOLE TRAINING PROGRAM THAT
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PEOPLE HAVE TO GO THROUGH IN
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ORDER TO RETIRE.
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I THINK WE CAN DO BETTER FOR
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THEM.
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>> Bret: AREM DOGE ENGINEER.
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YOU GO INTO THESE PLACES MORE
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THAN A DOZEN ENGINEERS.
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FIRST TO GO INTO THE AGENCIES
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AND VIEW THE COMPUTER DATA SETS.
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TELL ME WHAT YOU ARE FINDING AND
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FOR PEOPLE WHO DON'T UNDERSTAND
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HOW THAT PROCESS WORKS, EXPLAIN
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IT FOR THEM.
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>> YEAH.
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I WILL SAY THE FIRST THING THAT
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GOT ME REALLY EXCITED ABOUT DOGE
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WAS LEARNING BASICALLY THE STATE
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OF GOVERNMENT COMPUTERS.
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BY SOME ESTIMATES, GOVERNMENT IT
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COST ABOUT $100 BILLION.
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ITS FUNDING SYSTEMS THAT ARE
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OVER 50 YEARS OLD IN THE CASE OF
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SOMETHING LIKE SOCIAL SECURITY
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OR THE IRS.
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SO, REALLY CRITICAL SYSTEMS ARE
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OLD.
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THEY COST A LOT OF MONEY TO
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MAINTAIN.
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AND THEY COULD BE -- THE EFFORTS
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TO IMPROVE THEM ARE OFTEN VERY
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DELAYED.
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SO, I THOUGHT I'M A SOFTWARE
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ENGINEER.
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THAT MAYBE COULD MAKE A
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DIFFERENCE HERE.
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AND THAT'S REALLY WHAT INSPIRED
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ME AT A HIGH LEVEL.
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>> Bret: THERE IS A LOT OF
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MYSTERY ABOUT SOCIAL SECURITY
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AND WORDS ABOUT IT FROM -- HERE
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IS WHAT DEMOCRATS HAVE BEEN
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SAYING ABOUT IT.
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>> IT'S ABSURD THAT ELON MUSK IS
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TRYING TO ELIMINATE BILLIONS OF
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DOLLARS FROM SOCIAL SECURITY.
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>> ELON MUSK AND PRESIDENT TRUMP
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HAVE SET THEIR SITES ON CUTTING
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SOCIAL SECURITY.
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>> THEIR GOAL IS CLEAR.
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DESTROY SOCIAL SECURITY FROM
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WITHIN.
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>> Bret: YOU'RE IN THE BUILDING.
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I MEAN, YOU ARE IN THE
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COMPUTERS.
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WHAT IS HAPPENING THERE?
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WHAT ARE YOU DOING?
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>> YEAH.
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IT DOESN'T LINE UP WITH MY
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EXPERIENCE ON THE GROUND.
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AND I WILL SAY THE TWO
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IMPROVEMENTS THAT WE'RE TRYING
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TO MAKE TO SOCIAL SECURITY ARE
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HELPING PEOPLE THAT LEGITIMATELY
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GET BENEFITS, PROTECT THEM FROM
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FRAUD, THAT THEY EXPERIENCE
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EVERY DAY ON A ROUTINE BASIS,
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AND ALSO MAKE THE EXPERIENCE
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BETTER.
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AND I WILL GIVE YOU ONE EXAMPLE
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IS AT SOCIAL SECURITY, ONE OF
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THE FIRST THINGS WE LEARNED IS
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THAT THEY GET PHONE CALLS EVERY
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DAY OF PEOPLE TRYING TO CHANGE
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DIRECT DEPOSIT INFORMATION.
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SO, WHEN YOU WANT TO CHANGE YOUR
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BANK ACCOUNT, CAN YOU CALL
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SOCIAL SECURITY.
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WE LEARNED 40% OF THE PHONE
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CALLS THAT THEY GET ARE FROM
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FRAUD CENTERS.
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>> Bret: 40%?
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>> THAT'S RIGHT.
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ALMOST HALF.
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>> YES.
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AND THEY STEAL PEOPLE'S SOCIAL
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SECURITY IS WHAT HAPPENS.
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THEY CALL IN, THEY SAY THEY
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CLAIM TO BE A RETIREE.
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THEN THEY -- AND THEY CONVINCE
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THE SOCIAL SECURITY PERSON ON
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THE PHONE TO CHANGE WHERE THE
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MONEY IS FLOWING.
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IT ACTUALLY GOES TO SOME
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FRAUDSTER.
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AS IT IS HAPPENING ALL DAY EVERY
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DAY.
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AND THEN SOMEBODY DOESN'T
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RECEIVE THEIR SOCIAL SECURITY
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IT'S BECAUSE OF ALL THE FRAUD
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LOOPHOLES IN THE SOCIAL SECURITY
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SYSTEM.
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>> Bret: HOW DO YOU REASSURE
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PEOPLE THAT WHAT YOU ALL ARE
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DOING IS NOT GOING TO EFFECT
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THEIR BENEFITS?
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>> NO, IN FACT, WHAT WE'RE DOING
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WILL HELP THEIR BENEFITS.
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LEGITIMATE PEOPLE AS A RESULT OF
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THE WORK OF DOGE WILL RECEIVE
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MORE SOCIAL SECURITY, NOT LESS.
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I WANT TO EMPHASIZE THAT AS A
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RESULT OF THE WORK OF DOGE,
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LEGITIMATE RECIPIENTS OF SOCIAL
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SECURITY WILL RECEIVE MORE
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MONEY, NOT LESS MONEY.
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AND LET THE RECORD SHOW THAT I
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SAID THIS, AND IT CAN BE PROVEN
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OUT TO BE TRUE.
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LET'S CHECK BACK ON THIS IN THE
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FUTURE.
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>> "THE WASHINGTON POST," THE
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SOCIAL SECURITY ADMINISTRATION
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WEBSITE CRASHED FOUR TIMES IN 10
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DAYS THIS MONTH BECAUSE OF THE
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SERVERS WERE OVERLOADED BLOCKING
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MILLIONS OF RETIREES AND
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DISABLED VETERANS FROM LOGGING
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INTO THEIR ONLINE ACCOUNTS.
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FREAKED PEOPLE OUT.
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IS THAT GOING TO CHANGE.
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>> YES, WE ARE GOING TO MAKE
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SURE THAT THE WEBSITE STAYS
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ONLINE.
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>> Bret: BUT IS IT A RESULT OF
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GOING IN THERE OR SOMETHING YOU
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ARE DOING?
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>> NO.
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THE AMOUNT OF ISSUES THAT SOCIAL
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SECURITY SYSTEM ARE ENORMOUS.
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AS AN EXAMPLE, THERE ARE OVER
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15 MILLION PEOPLE THAT ARE OVER
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THE AGE OF 120, THAT ARE MARKED
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AS ALIVE IN THE SOCIAL SECURITY
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SYSTEM.
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>> Bret: THAT'S AN ACCURATE
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FIGURE.
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>> CORRECT.
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CORRECT.
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THIS IS SOMETHING THAT HAS BEEN
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IDENTIFIED AS A PROBLEM.
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AGAIN, PRE-EXISTING PROBLEM
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SINCE 2008, AT LEAST, FROM AN IG
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REPORT.
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SO, THERE IS SOME GREAT PEOPLE
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WORKING AT THE SOCIAL SECURITY
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ADMINISTRATION THAT FOUND THIS,
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2008, AND NOTHING WAS DONE.
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AND SO 15 TO 20 MILLION SOCIAL
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SECURITY NUMBERS THAT WERE
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CLEARLY FRAUDULENT WERE FLOATING
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AROUND, THAT CAN BE USED ONLY
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FOR BAD INTENTIONS.
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NO WAY TO USE THESE FOR GOOD
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INTENTIONS.
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ONE OF THE THINGS THE DOGE TEAM
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IS DOING IS CAREFULLY AND VERY
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METHODICALLY LOOKING AT THOSE
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AND MAKING SURE ANY FRAUDULENT
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ONES ARE ELIMINATED.
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>> Bret: BRAD SMITH WORKING AT
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HHS AND OBVIOUSLY ANOTHER
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ELEMENT IS MEDICARE AND
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MEDICAID.
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NIH, WHAT ARE YOU FINDING?
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>> YEAH.
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I WOULD SAY THERE IS A COUPLE
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THINGS WE'RE REALLY COMMITTED TO
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IN OUR WORK AT HHS.
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NUMBER ONE, MAKING SURE TO HAVE
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THE BEST BIOMEDICAL RESEARCH IN
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THE WORLD.
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MAKE BEING SURE THAT PRESIDENT
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TRUMP SAID OVER AND OVER AGAIN
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WE 100 PERCENT PROTECT MEDICARE
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AND MEDICAID.
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THERE IS A LOT OF OPPORTUNITY.
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IF I TAKE NIH AS AN EXAMPLE.
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TODAY IF YOU ARE NIH RESEARCHER
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AND GET $100 GRANT AT YOUR
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UNIVERSITY, TODAY YOU GET TO
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SPEND 60 OF THAT AND YOUR
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UNIVERSITY SPENDS 40 OF THAT.
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THE POLICY WE ARE PROPOSING TO
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MAKE YOU GETS TO SPEND 58 OF
00:14:00
THAT AND YOUR UNIVERSITY SPENDS
00:14:01
15.
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THAT'S MORE MONEY GOING DIRECTLY
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TO THE SCIENTISTS WHO ARE
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DISCOVERING NEW CURES.
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ANOTHER EXAMPLE AT NIH IS TODAY
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THEY HAVE 27 DIFFERENT CENTERS.
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THEY GOT CREATED OVER TIME BY
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CONGRESS AND TYPICALLY BY
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DISEASE STATE OR BODY SYSTEM.
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THERE IS 700 DIFFERENT IT
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SYSTEMS TODAY AT NIH.
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>> Bret: 700 DIFFERENT IT
00:14:18
SYSTEMS.
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>> SOFTWARE SYSTEMS THEY CAN'T
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SPEAK TO EACH OTHER.
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>> Bret: THEY DON'T TALK.
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>> 27 DIFFERENT C.I. Os.
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WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT MAKING GREAT
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MEDICINE CAD DISCOVERIES YOU
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HAVE TO CONNECT THE DATA.
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>> Bret: TIME-OUT YOU SAID 27
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DIFFERENT CHIEF INFORMATION
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OFFICERS?
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>> CORRECT, CORRECT.
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>> MOST ARE NONTECHNICAL.
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>> Bret: THERE IS A LOT THERE.
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>> THERE IS A LOT OF
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OPPORTUNITY.
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IT WILL MAKE SCIENCE BETTER NOT
00:14:39
WORSE.
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>> WHEN I SAY OUR JOB IS TECH
00:14:41
SUPPORT, I REALLY MEAN IT.
00:14:43
>> Bret: YEAH.
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>> WE HAVE TO FIX THE COMPUTERS.
00:14:45
IF THE COMPUTERS CAN'T TALK TO
00:14:46
EACH OTHER.
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YOU CAN'T GET RESEARCH DONE.
00:14:48
IF THE COMPUTERS CAN'T STAY
00:14:51
ONLINE, PEOPLE WON'T RECEIVE
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THEIR SOCIAL SECURITY.
00:14:53
SO, WHAT WE HAVE HERE ARE A
00:14:54
BUNCH OF FAILING COMPUTER
00:14:56
SYSTEMS THAT ARE PREVENTING
00:14:57
PEOPLE FROM RECEIVING THEIR
00:14:58
BENEFITS THAT ARE PREVENTING
00:15:02
PEOPLE FROM PREVENTING RESEARCH
00:15:05
FROM HAPPENING EXTREMELY
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VULNERABLE TO FRAUD AND WE ARE
00:15:09
FIXING IT.
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>> Bret: DOES THAT INCLUDE AI OR
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THE SYSTEM OVERALL?
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THAT'S WHAT PEOPLE ARE AFRAID
00:15:17
OF.
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THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT THIS IS ALL
00:15:19
LOOKING LIKE.
00:15:19
IS IT GOING TO AFFECT ME IN THE
00:15:20
LONG TERM?
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>> IT'S GOING TO EFFECT PEOPLE
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VERY POSITIVELY THE CHANGES WE
00:15:28
ARE DOING HERE SOLVENCY OF THE
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GOVERNMENT OF THE UNITED STATES
00:15:32
OF AMERICA.
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THIS IS WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO
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DO.
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ENSURE THAT PEOPLE DO RECEIVE
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THEIR BENEFITS IN THE FUTURE.
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AND YOU CAN ONLY RECEIVE YOUR
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BENEFITS IF THE COUNTRY IS
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OPERATING IN A HEALTHY AND
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COMPETENT WAY.
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>> Bret: UP NEXT, HOW THE DOGE
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TEAM PLANS TO STREAMLINE SOME
00:15:49
FEDERAL JOBS AND AGENCIES.
00:15:50
AND, LATER, ELON MUSK ANSWERS
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SOME OF YOUR QUESTIONS THAT YOU
00:15:55
ASKED VI
00:16:01
>> Bret: ANTHONY ARMSTRONG, DOGE
00:16:02
OFFERS OF PERSONNEL MANAGEMENT,
00:16:04
MORGAN STANLEY BANKER, MMA GUY.
00:16:07
>> YEAH.
00:16:07
>> Bret: YOU KNOW MONEY.
00:16:08
THIS IS A LOT OF MONEY SLOSHING
00:16:10
AROUND.
00:16:10
>> THERE IS A LOT OF MONEY
00:16:11
SLOSHING AROUND.
00:16:12
IT'S A LOT OF MONEY SLOSHING OUT
00:16:13
THE DOOR.
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IF YOU LOOK AT THE FEDERAL
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GOVERNMENT AND THE WAY THE
00:16:16
WORKFORCE WORKS.
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IT'S REALLY A ONEWAY RATCHET.
00:16:22
>> Bret: ONLY GOING UP.
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>> THAT LEAVES WITH YOU
00:16:25
DUPLICATIVE FUNCTIONS AND LEADS
00:16:27
LEAST WITH YOU OVERSTAFFING AND
00:16:29
FUNCTIONS IN THE WRONG PLACES.
00:16:30
A COUPLE OF EXAMPLES DUPLICATIVE
00:16:32
FUNCTIONS BRAD MENTIONED 27 C.I.
00:16:35
Os IF YOU KEPT GOING WITH BRAD
00:16:36
HE WOULD TALK ABOUT THE
00:16:37
COMMUNICATIONS OFFICE.
00:16:39
GOT 40 DISTINCT COMMUNICATIONS
00:16:41
OFFICES IN HHS.
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>> Bret: 40?
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>> YEAH.
00:16:45
THAT'S NOT UNUSUAL BY THE WAY.
00:16:46
MULTIPLE OFFICES LIKE THAT.
00:16:49
>> DOES NOT MAKE ANYONE HEALTHY.
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>> MANY HARD-WORKING
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WELL-MEANING PEOPLE TOOK THESE
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JOBS.
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THESE JOBS WERE OUT THERE.
00:16:56
THEY APPLIED FOR THEM, THEY TOOK
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THEM.
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THEY ARE DOING WHAT'S THERE.
00:16:59
THEY ARE DUPLICATING THE EFFORT
00:17:01
OF 40 OFFICES.
00:17:01
SO YOU HAVE GOT THAT YOU HAVE
00:17:04
OVERSTAFFING, A GOOD EXAMPLE OF
00:17:05
OVERSTAFFING WOULD BE THE IRS
00:17:08
HAS GOT 1400 PEOPLE WHO ARE
00:17:11
DEDICATED TO PROVISIONING
00:17:12
LAPTOPS AND CELL PHONES.
00:17:14
JOIN THE IRS LAPTOP AND CELL
00:17:16
PHONE PROVISIONED.
00:17:17
IF EACH OF THOSE IRS OFFICERS OR
00:17:19
EMPLOYEES PROVISIONED TWO
00:17:21
EMPLOYEES PER DAY, YOU COULD
00:17:23
PROVISION THE ENTIRE IRS IN A
00:17:25
LITTLE MORE THAN A MONTH.
00:17:27
SO 12 TIMES A YEAR.
00:17:29
>> Bret: MAKE YOUR HEAD EXPLODE.
00:17:31
>> ONLY JOB TO GIVE OUT LAPTOP
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AND A PHONE.
00:17:34
>> WHOLE IRS COULD BE ONCE A
00:17:35
MONTH.
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THAT DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE.
00:17:37
AND PRESIDENT TRUMP HAS BEEN
00:17:38
VERY CLEAR, SCALPEL AND NOT
00:17:42
HATCHET.
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THAT'S THE WAY IT'S GETTING
00:17:44
DONE.
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ONCE THOSE DECISIONS ARE MADE.
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THERE'S A VERY HEAVY FOCUS ON
00:17:50
BEING GENEROUS, BEING CARING,
00:17:52
BEING COMPASSIONATE, AND
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TREATING EVERYONE WITH DIGNITY
00:17:56
AND RESPECT.
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IF YOU LOOK AT HOW PEOPLE HAVE
00:17:58
STARTED TO LEAVE THE GOVERNMENT,
00:18:01
IT IS LARGELY THROUGH VOLUNTARY
00:18:03
MEANS.
00:18:04
THERE IS VOLUNTARY EARLY
00:18:06
RETIREMENT.
00:18:06
VOLUNTARY SEPARATION PAYMENTS.
00:18:07
WE PUT IN PLACE DEFERRED
00:18:10
RESIGNATION THE 8 MONTH
00:18:11
SEVERANCE PROGRAM.
00:18:12
A VERY HEAVY BIAS TOWARDS
00:18:14
PROGRAMS THAT ARE LONG-DATED
00:18:15
THAT ARE GENEROUS THAT ALLOW
00:18:16
PEOPLE TO EXIT AND GO GET A NEW
00:18:18
JOB IN THE PRIVATE SECTOR.
00:18:21
YOU HAVE HEARD A LOT OF -- A LOT
00:18:25
OF NEWS ABOUT RIFTS.
00:18:26
ABOUT PEOPLE GETTING FIRED.
00:18:27
AT THIS MOMENT IN TIME, LESS
00:18:31
THAN .15.
00:18:34
NOT 1.5.
00:18:35
LESS THAN 0.15 HAS BEEN GIVEN
00:18:42
WRITTEN NOTICE.
00:18:42
>> SELECTED.
00:18:43
>> BASICALLY ALMOST NO ONE HAS
00:18:45
GOTTEN FIRED IS WHAT WE'RE
00:18:46
SAYING.
00:18:46
>> TOM CRASS, WORKING AT
00:18:48
TREASURY, YOU ARE HAVING ACCESS
00:18:50
TO THE PAYMENT SYSTEM, OVERSEES
00:18:54
ALL THE OUTGOING PAYMENTS.
00:18:55
ESSENTIALLY THOSE PAYMENTS WERE
00:18:56
GOING PLACES WHERE WE DIDN'T
00:18:57
KNOW WHERE THEY WERE GOING,
00:18:58
RIGHT?
00:18:59
>> YEAH.
00:18:59
UNFORTUNATELY THAT'S THE CASE,
00:19:01
BRET.
00:19:01
YOU KNOW, AS IN EXCFO OF A BIG
00:19:05
PUBLIC TECH COMPANY, REALLY WHAT
00:19:06
WE'RE DOING IS WE'RE APPLYING
00:19:09
PUBLIC COMPANY STANDARDS TO THE
00:19:10
FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.
00:19:11
AND IT IS ALARMING HOW THE
00:19:15
FINANCIAL OPERATIONS AND
00:19:16
FINANCIAL MANAGEMENT IS SET UP
00:19:18
TO DATED.
00:19:18
THERE IS ACTUALLY ONLY ONE BANK
00:19:20
ACCOUNT THAT IS USED TO DISPERSE
00:19:25
ALL MONEY OF THE FEDERAL
00:19:27
GOVERNMENT.
00:19:27
>> Bret: TIME OUT ONE BANK
00:19:28
ACCOUNT.
00:19:29
>> IT'S A BIG ONE.
00:19:30
A COUPLE WEEKS AGO HAD
00:19:32
$800 BILLION IN IT.
00:19:34
THE TREASURY WON'T COUNT.
00:19:36
SO, WHEN YOU HEAR, YOU KNOW,
00:19:37
SOME OF MY COLLEAGUES WHAT
00:19:38
THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT IN TERMS
00:19:39
OF THE FRAUD, YOU HAVE TO ASK
00:19:41
WELL, WHY IS THIS ALLOWED TO
00:19:44
HAPPEN AT A FINANCIAL LEVEL?
00:19:46
WELL, IT'S ACTUALLY QUITE SIMPLE
00:19:48
BUT ALARMING.
00:19:48
THE TREASURY, UP UNTIL NOW AND
00:19:50
THANKS TO PRESIDENT TRUMP, WE'RE
00:19:51
FIXING THIS IVELGT IN FACT,
00:19:52
THERE IS AN EXECUTIVE ORDER THAT
00:19:53
HE JUST SIGNED THE OTHER DAY
00:19:55
WHICH IS PROTECTING AMERICA'S
00:19:57
BANK ACCOUNT BECAUSE IT REALLY
00:19:58
IS THE TAXPAYERS' MONEY.
00:19:59
ONE, WE ARE CHANGING THE
00:20:01
CULTURE.
00:20:03
THE CULTURE HAS BEEN NOT A LOT
00:20:04
OF CARING AND NOT A LOT OF
00:20:06
COMMITMENT TO DOING WHAT'S
00:20:07
RIGHT.
00:20:08
RELATIVE TO FINANCIAL
00:20:09
OPERATIONS.
00:20:10
THERE'S A $500 BILLION OF FRAUD
00:20:11
EVERY YEAR.
00:20:12
THERE IS HUNDREDS OF BILLIONS OF
00:20:14
DOLLARS OF IMPROPER PAYMENTS.
00:20:15
AND WE CAN'T PASS AN AUDIT.
00:20:20
THE FINANCIAL REPORT IS PRODUCED
00:20:21
BY TREASURY WE CANNOT PASS AN
00:20:24
AUDIT.
00:20:24
MATERIAL WEAKNESSES.
00:20:25
IF I WAS A PUBLIC COMPANY CFO I
00:20:28
WOULD EFFECTIVELY BE REMOVED.
00:20:29
I COULDN'T FILE FINANCIAL
00:20:31
STATEMENTS.
00:20:31
I COULDN'T ISSUE SECURITIES.
00:20:34
>> Bret: HAVE TO PASS AN AUDIT.
00:20:35
>> THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT CANNOT
00:20:36
PASS AN AUDIT.
00:20:37
IT'S IMPOSSIBLE.
00:20:41
IN FACT, IN ORDER TO PASS AN
00:20:43
AUDIT YOU NEED THE INFORMATION
00:20:44
TO PASS AN AUDIT.
00:20:45
YOU NEED TO HAVE THE PAYMENT
00:20:46
CODES.
00:20:47
YOU NEED HAVE THE PAYMENT
00:20:48
EXPLANATION AND A PERSON YOU CAN
00:20:50
CONTACT TO UNDERSTAND WHY THAT
00:20:51
PAYMENT WAS MADE.
00:20:52
NONE OF THOSE THINGS WERE
00:20:53
MANDATORY UNTIL JUST RECENTLY
00:20:54
JUST A FEW WEEKS AGO.
00:20:56
IN FACT MAYBE LAST WEEK?
00:20:57
>> YEAH.
00:20:57
WE ARE SERVING 580 PLUS
00:21:00
AGENCIES.
00:21:00
UP UNTIL VERY RECENTLY,
00:21:03
EFFECTIVELY THEY COULD SAY MAKE
00:21:03
THE PAYMENT AND TREASURY JUST
00:21:05
SENT IT OUT AS FAST AS POSSIBLE.
00:21:08
NO VERIFICATION.
00:21:08
AND SO WHAT WE'RE DOING IS WHAT
00:21:11
ANY HOUSEHOLD WOULD DO.
00:21:12
BUT, IMAGINE YOU ARE A
00:21:13
HOUSEHOLD, YOU HAVE A BANK
00:21:15
ACCOUNT.
00:21:15
EVERYONE HAS AN ATM CARD
00:21:17
CONNECTED TO THAT ACCOUNT.
00:21:18
EVERYONE HAS A CHECKBOOK.
00:21:21
NOT JUST YOUR CHILDREN.
00:21:22
IT'S YOUR PARENTS, IN-LAWS,
00:21:24
EXTENDED FAMILY.
00:21:24
THEY CAN ALL GO TO THE ACCOUNT
00:21:26
AND DISPERSE FUNDS NO.
00:21:28
QUESTIONS ASKED NO.
00:21:29
JUSTIFICATION, NO VERIFICATION.
00:21:31
>> Bret: UP NEXT, THE DOGE TEAM
00:21:33
TARGETS GOVERNMENT CONTRACTS AND
00:21:35
WE'LL SHOW YOU WHAT THEY'RE
00:21:43
FI
00:21:43
TYLER, INTERIOR DEPARTMENT.
00:21:44
YOU ARE A FORMER OIL COMPANY
00:21:46
CEO.
00:21:46
YOU ARE REVIEWING CONTRACTS
00:21:48
BEFORE THEY'RE APPROVED FOR
00:21:49
FUNDING.
00:21:50
WHAT ARE YOU FINDING?
00:21:51
>> WELL, ELON AND STEVE KIND OF
00:21:53
STOLE MY THUNDER A LITTLE BIT.
00:21:54
BUT I ACTUALLY FOUND THAT
00:21:56
CUSTOMER SERVICE SURVEY
00:21:58
CONTRACT.
00:21:58
I ACTUALLY HAD AN EXAMPLE OF ONE
00:22:00
RIGHT HERE.
00:22:01
I COULD HAVE DONE THIS IN HIGH
00:22:03
SCHOOL.
00:22:03
[LAUGHTER]
00:22:04
>> Bret: IS THAT RIGHT?
00:22:05
>> IT'S THAT BAD.
00:22:05
>> I FOUND IT ON THE WEEKENDS.
00:22:07
BECAUSE UNDER THE BIDEN
00:22:08
ADMINISTRATION, THERE WAS NO
00:22:10
DEPARTMENTAL OVERSIGHT WITHIN
00:22:11
THE DEPARTMENT OF INTERIOR
00:22:13
WHATSOEVER, NONE.
00:22:14
WE ARE NOW REVIEWING EVERY
00:22:16
SINGLE CONTRACT, EVERY SINGLE
00:22:18
GRANT AND WHEN THINGS DOM MY
00:22:20
ATTENTION THAT DON'T MAKE SENSE.
00:22:22
I AM BRINGING THEM TO SECRETARY
00:22:25
ENTER GUM.
00:22:29
BURGUM.
00:22:29
IS HE FANTASTIC AND WONDERFUL TO
00:22:31
WORK WITH HIM.
00:22:32
>> Bret: IS THE BATTLE BETWEEN
00:22:33
GOVERNMENT OF DECADES AND
00:22:34
DECADES OF BUILD-UP AND
00:22:36
BUSINESS, WHICH YOU GUYS ARE, IS
00:22:37
THAT LIKE A TRAIN HITTING EACH
00:22:39
OTHER?
00:22:39
I MEAN, IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S
00:22:41
PRETTY DISRUPTIVE.
00:22:42
>> WELL, THIS IS A REVOLUTION.
00:22:45
AND I THINK IT MIGHT BE THE --
00:22:46
IT MIGHT BE THE BIGGEST
00:22:48
REVOLUTION IN GOVERNMENT SINCE
00:22:50
THE ORIGINAL REVOLUTION.
00:22:51
BUT, AT THE END OF THE DAY,
00:22:52
AMERICA IS GOING TO BE IN MUCH
00:22:54
BETTER SHAPE, AMERICA WILL BE
00:22:57
SOLVENT.
00:22:58
THE CRITICAL PROGRAMS THAT
00:22:59
PEOPLE DEPEND UPON WILL WORK.
00:23:01
AND IT'S GOING TO BE A FANTASTIC
00:23:05
FUTURE.
00:23:05
AND BUT ARE WE GOING TO GET A
00:23:06
LOT OF COMPLAINTS ALONG THE WAY?
00:23:08
ABSOLUTELY.
00:23:08
ONE OF THE THINGS I LEARNED AT
00:23:11
PAYPAL, DO YOU KNOW WHO
00:23:12
COMPLAINS THE LOUDEST AND WITH
00:23:13
THE MOST AMOUNT OF FAKE,
00:23:15
RIGHTEOUS INDIGNATION IN THE
00:23:17
FRAUD CENTERS.
00:23:19
THAT'S -- IT'S A TELL.
00:23:22
LIKE THE $2 BILLION TO STACEY SY
00:23:25
ABRAMS NGO DIDN'T EXIST AND
00:23:28
$2 BILLION FROM THE FEDERAL
00:23:30
GOVERNMENT.
00:23:30
WHY?
00:23:30
AND THERE ARE MANY SUCH CASES
00:23:32
LIKE THAT.
00:23:33
>> Bret: I THINK THAT MOST
00:23:34
PEOPLE, COMMON SENSEWISE, WOULD
00:23:36
SAY THE FRAUD HAS GOT TO END.
00:23:38
>> YES.
00:23:38
>> THEY ARE CONCERNED ABOUT THE
00:23:40
94-YEAR-OLD MOTHER WHO SKIPS A
00:23:42
CHECK OR SOMEHOW DOESN'T GET
00:23:44
WHAT SHE IS SUPPOSED TO GET.
00:23:45
>> RIGHT.
00:23:46
WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO SAY IS
00:23:47
ACTUALLY THAT THE 94-YEAR-OLD
00:23:50
GRANDMOTHER IS ACTUALLY AS A
00:23:51
RESULT OF DOGE'S WORK GOING TO
00:23:53
GET HER CHECK.
00:23:54
SHE IS NOT GOING TO BE ROBBED BY
00:23:56
FRAUDSTERS LIKE SHE IS GETTING
00:23:57
ROBBED TODAY.
00:23:59
AND THE SOLVE VENEZUELAY OF THE
00:24:01
FEDERAL GOVERNMENT WILL ENSURE
00:24:02
THAT SHE CONTINUES TO RECEIVE
00:24:04
THOSE -- THE SOCIAL SECURITY
00:24:05
CHECKS THAT MEDICARE CONTINUES
00:24:12
TO WORK THE REASON WE ARE DOING
00:24:16
THIS IF WE DON'T DO IT AMERICA
00:24:18
IS GOING TO GO INSOLVENT.
00:24:20
GOING TO GO BANKRUPT.
00:24:21
AND NOBODY IS GOING TO GET
00:24:22
ANYTHING.
00:24:23
>> Bret: WHY ARE YOU GUYS ALL
00:24:23
DOING IT?
00:24:24
YOU CAN PIPE UP.
00:24:25
YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE HERE,
00:24:26
RIGHT?
00:24:27
I MEAN, YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE
00:24:28
DOING THIS.
00:24:31
>> I BLESSED WITH FOUR BEAUTIFUL
00:24:33
CHILDREN, MY WIFE AND I.
00:24:34
BUT WE HAVE A REAL FISCAL
00:24:36
CRISIS.
00:24:36
AND, THIS IS NOT SUSTAINABLE,
00:24:39
AND WHAT'S WORSE, BACK TO MY
00:24:41
CHILDREN AND EVERYONE ELSE'S
00:24:42
CHILDREN, WE ARE BURDENING THEM
00:24:44
WITH THAT DEBT.
00:24:45
AND IT'S ONLY GOING TO GROW.
00:24:48
STEVE.
00:24:48
>> Bret: THERE IS NOT A LOT OF
00:24:50
HIERARCHY HERE.
00:24:50
YOU ARE APPROACHING IT IN
00:24:52
DIFFERENT SILOS, BUT WITH THE
00:24:54
SAME KIND OF GOAL, RIGHT?
00:24:56
I MEAN, THIS IS REALLY SILICON
00:24:58
VALLEY PRIVATE SECTOR COLLIDING
00:25:00
WITH GOVERNMENT.
00:25:01
>> YEAH.
00:25:02
EXACTLY.
00:25:02
WE ARE HEADED IN A BAD PATH.
00:25:04
THE CHANCE OF SUCCESS EXISTS AND
00:25:07
THE ONE THAT IS IN OUR HEAD
00:25:08
RIGHT NOW FAIRLY MUNDANE ONE BUT
00:25:12
ILLUSTRATIVE IS CREDIT CARDS.
00:25:14
THERE ARE IN THE FEDERAL
00:25:16
GOVERNMENT AROUND 4.6 MILLION
00:25:18
CREDIT CARDS FOR AROUND 2.3 TO
00:25:21
2.4 MILLION EMPLOYEES.
00:25:23
THIS DOESN'T MAKE SENSE.
00:25:25
>> Bret: RIGHT.
00:25:25
>> SO ONE OF THE THINGS ALL OF
00:25:26
THE TEAMS HAVE WORKED ON IS WE
00:25:28
HAVE WORKED FOR THE AGENCIES AND
00:25:30
SAID DO YOU NEED ALL OF THESE
00:25:32
CREDIT CARDS?
00:25:33
ARE THEY BEING USED?
00:25:34
CAN YOU TELL US PHYSICALLY WHERE
00:25:35
THEY ARE?
00:25:36
>> Bret: I HOPE THEY ARE GETTING
00:25:38
FREQUENT FLIER MILES.
00:25:39
>> ACTUALLY, DIFFERENT NOTE, THE
00:25:41
REWARDS PROGRAM THE FEDERAL
00:25:42
GOVERNMENT HAS IS NOT VERY GOOD.
00:25:44
THAT'S A WHOLE OTHER.
00:25:45
>> Bret: THAT'S A NEGOTIATION.
00:25:46
>> EXACTLY.
00:25:47
SO FAR THE TEAMS HAVE WORKED
00:25:48
TOGETHER AND THEY HAVE REDUCED
00:25:50
IT FROM 4.6 MILLION TO
00:25:52
2.3 MILLION.
00:25:54
SO,.
00:25:55
>> WE'RE TAKING IT EASY.
00:25:56
CLEARLY THAT SHOULD NOT BE --
00:25:59
SHOULD NOT BE MORE CREDIT CARDS
00:26:00
THAN THERE ARE PEOPLE.
00:26:05
>> Bret: MIDDLE LEVEL EMPLOYEES
00:26:06
ARE THEY SEEING A BENEFIT TO
00:26:07
BEING EMPOWERED BY TAKING OUT
00:26:10
BUREAUCRACY?
00:26:10
I MEAN.
00:26:10
>> ABSOLUTELY, I MEAN, I THINK
00:26:11
WHAT YOU ARE SEE SOMETHING
00:26:12
TAKING THE BEST OF SILICON
00:26:14
VALLEY THE BUSINESS WORLD AND
00:26:15
BRINGING IT TO GOVERNMENT.
00:26:16
BRINGING THE BEST PRACTICES AND
00:26:18
BEST METHODOLOGIES AND PEOPLE
00:26:20
ARE INSPIRED, RIGHT?
00:26:21
ESPECIALLY ON RETIREMENT PROCESS
00:26:23
SAYS I COULD SPEAK TO.
00:26:25
THEY HAVE BEEN TRYING TO
00:26:26
MODERNIZE AND GET OFF OF PAPER
00:26:28
SINCE EARLY 22000S.
00:26:33
VERY UNSUCCESSFULLY.
00:26:34
EVERY ATTEMPT GONE OVER BUDGET
00:26:36
AND BEEN CANCELED BECAUSE IT
00:26:37
HASN'T BEEN SUCCESSFUL.
00:26:41
I SHOWED UP AND FEEL LIKE I'M
00:26:43
HERE IT'S AN INTERESTING
00:26:44
PROBLEM.
00:26:44
WE CAN USE DESIGN TO SOLVE IT
00:26:46
AND GET ENGINEERING AND CREATE A
00:26:48
BETTER EXPERIENCE FOR EVERYBODY.
00:26:49
>> WE ARE TALKING ABOUT
00:26:50
ELEMENTARY FINANCIAL CONTROLS
00:26:51
THAT ARE NECESSARY FOR ANY
00:26:53
COMPANY TO FUNCTION.
00:26:54
SO, LIKE IF THESE -- IF THE
00:26:57
FEDERAL GOVERNMENTS -- IF A
00:26:59
COMMERCIAL COMPANY OPERATED THE
00:27:01
WAY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT DOES,
00:27:02
THEN IT WOULD BE -- IMMEDIATELY
00:27:04
GO BANKRUPT.
00:27:05
IT WOULD BE DELISTED.
00:27:07
THE OFFICERS WOULD BE ARRESTED.
00:27:08
THE CHANGES WE ARE PUTTING IN
00:27:09
PLACE WILL ENABLE THE FEDERAL
00:27:10
GOVERNMENT TO PASS AN AUDIT.
00:27:12
IT WILL ENABLE TAXPAYERS TO KNOW
00:27:13
WHERE THE MONEY IS GOING.
00:27:15
KNOW
00:27:20
>> THE WAYS THAT THE GOVERNMENT
00:27:22
IS DEFRAUDED IS THAT THE
00:27:23
COMPUTER SYSTEMS DON'T TALK TO
00:27:24
EACH OTHER.
00:27:24
IF THE COMPUTER SYSTEMS DON'T
00:27:25
TALK TO EACH OTHER, THEN YOU CAN
00:27:29
EXPLOIT THAT GAP.
00:27:33
AND FRAUDSTERS EXPLOIT THAT GAP
00:27:34
AND TAKE ADVANTAGE.
00:27:35
FOR EXAMPLE THERE WERE
00:27:37
$300 MILLION OF A SMALL BUSINESS
00:27:38
ADMINISTRATION LOANS THAT HAS
00:27:39
BEEN GIVEN OUT TO PEOPLE UNDER
00:27:40
THE AGE OF 11.
00:27:44
>> 300 MILLION UNDER THE AGE OF
00:27:46
11 AND OVER 300 MILLION UNDER
00:27:49
THE AGE OF 20.
00:27:51
>> Bret: DEFINITELY SMALL
00:27:51
BUSINESS LOANS?
00:27:52
>> YES.
00:27:53
THE OLDEST AMERICAN IS 114.
00:27:56
SAFE SO SAY IF THEIR AGE IS 115
00:27:59
OR ABOVE THEY ARE FAKE OR THEY
00:28:00
SHOULD BE IN THE GUINNESS BOOK
00:28:02
OF WORLD RECORDS.
00:28:02
AND WE SHOULD NOT BE GIVING OUT
00:28:05
LOANS TO BABIES.
00:28:08
SO,.
00:28:08
[LAUGHTER]
00:28:09
THE YOUNGEST RECIPIENT OF A
00:28:11
SMALL BUSINESS ADMINISTRATION
00:28:12
LOAN IS A 9-MONTH-OLD-YEAR-OLD
00:28:15
WHICH IS A VERY PRECOCIOUS BABY
00:28:16
WE ARE TALKING ABOUT HERE.
00:28:18
OBVIOUSLY JUST FRAUDULENT.
00:28:19
AND THEY DO TERRIBLE THINGS.
00:28:21
THEY ACTUALLY WILL SEE A KID HAS
00:28:22
BEEN BORN.
00:28:23
THEY WILL STEAL THAT KID'S
00:28:25
SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBER AND TAKE
00:28:26
OUT A LOAN AND LEAVE THAT KID
00:28:28
WITH A BAD CREDIT RATING.
00:28:31
LITERAL LAY BABY.
00:28:32
TERRIBLE THINGS ARE BEING DONE
00:28:33
IS WHAT WE'RE SEEING.
00:28:34
WE ARE STOPPING THESE TERRIBLE
00:28:36
THINGS.
00:28:36
>> Bret: CAN YOU STOP IT.
00:28:37
>> WE ARE STOPPING IT.
00:28:39
ABSOLUTELY.
00:28:39
>> THE REASON IT IS HAPPENING
00:28:40
BECAUSE THE TWO SYSTEMS ARE NOT
00:28:41
TALKING TOO EACH OTHER.
00:28:42
>> YES.
00:28:43
>> RIGHT?
00:28:44
AND SO YOU DON'T KNOW AT THE
00:28:46
SMALL BUSINESS ADMINISTRATION
00:28:47
THAT YOU'RE GIVING A LOAN TO A
00:28:49
9-MONTH-OLD, WHICH HAPPENED IN
00:28:50
ONE CASE, BECAUSE YOU ARE NOT
00:28:52
CROSS-REFERENCING THAT WITH THE
00:28:53
SOCIAL SECURITY ADMINISTRATION
00:28:54
DATA THAT HAS BIRTH DATES.
00:28:59
AND THERE WERE MULTIPLE SYSTEMS
00:29:01
ACROSS THE GOVERNMENT WHERE THE
00:29:02
SYSTEMS ARE NOT SPEAKING WITH
00:29:03
ONE ANOTHER.
00:29:04
AND IF YOU JUST SOLVE THAT
00:29:07
SIMPLE PROBLEM, YOU WOULD SOLVE
00:29:08
A HUGE AMOUNT OF FRAUD.
00:29:12
>> ONE OF THE KEY TRICKS PULL
00:29:14
THAT THEY WILL USE THE FACT THAT
00:29:16
SOMEONE IS MARKED AS LIVE, AS
00:29:21
LIVE AND SOCIAL SECURITY.
00:29:26
AND THEN GET, UNEMPLOYMENT
00:29:27
INSURANCE FOR A DEAD PERSON
00:29:28
BECAUSE THE DATABASES DON'T TALK
00:29:30
TO EACH OTHER.
00:29:31
ALL THEY GOT WAS FROM SOCIAL
00:29:32
SECURITY IS THIS PERSON ALIVE?
00:29:34
YES.
00:29:34
THEY ARE NOT ALIVE, THE PERSON
00:29:38
IS POSSIBLY MARKED AS ALIVE IN
00:29:40
SOCIAL SECURITY, BUT THAT
00:29:43
FRAUDSTER CAN THOUGHT GET
00:29:44
UNEMPLOYMENT AND DISABILITY FROM
00:29:45
A DEAD PERSON.
00:29:48
IT'S HAPPENING ALL THE TIME AT
00:29:51
SCALE.
00:29:52
>> Bret: ARE YOU SURPRISED AT
00:29:53
SOME OF THE LEGAL EFFORTS AND
00:29:54
SOME OF THE JUDGES THAT HAVE
00:29:55
WEIGHED IN?
00:29:56
THERE IS ABOUT 8 OR 10 NOW OF
00:29:58
THESE CASES THAT ARE AT LEAST
00:30:00
TEMPORARY HOLDS.
00:30:01
THEY ARE BEING CHALLENGED BY THE
00:30:03
DOJ.
00:30:04
>> RIGHT.
00:30:05
>> Bret: ARE YOU SURPRISED BY
00:30:06
THAT PUSHBACK?
00:30:06
>> WELL, IT'S -- THE D.C.
00:30:08
CIRCUIT IS NOTORIOUS FOR HAVING
00:30:10
A VERY FAR LEFT BIAS.
00:30:13
AND WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE PEOPLE
00:30:16
CLOSEST TO SOME OF THESE JUDGES,
00:30:18
WHO ARE -- WHERE ARE THEY
00:30:19
WORKING?
00:30:20
ARE THEY WORKING AT THESE
00:30:22
NGOs?
00:30:22
THEY'RE THE ONES GETTING THIS
00:30:23
MONEY.
00:30:24
DOES THAT SEEM LIKE A SYSTEM
00:30:24
THAT LACKS CORRUPTION?
00:30:27
SOUNDS LIKE CORRUPTION TO ME.
00:30:29
>> Bret: LAST THING.
00:30:29
DO YOU GUYS ALL SEE THIS AS A
00:30:31
PATRIOTIC DUTY?
00:30:32
IS THAT REALLY WHAT THIS IS
00:30:34
ABOUT?
00:30:35
>> IT'S ESSENTIAL.
00:30:36
>> I DO.
00:30:39
100 PERCENT.
00:30:39
I WAS RUNNING FIVE BUSINESSES IN
00:30:41
HOUSTON.
00:30:41
AND I LEFT THAT.
00:30:43
I LEFT GREAT PEOPLE TO DO THIS.
00:30:45
AND MY WONDERFUL WIFE SAID GO
00:30:46
FOR IT.
00:30:47
AND HERE I AM.
00:30:48
BUT I FEEL LIKE THIS IS ME
00:30:49
GIVING BACK TO THE COUNTRY.
00:30:54
.>> DID WE DON'T DO, THIS WE ARE
00:30:56
SHRUNK.
00:30:57
UNLESS THIS EXERCISE IS
00:30:58
SUCCESSFUL, THE SHIP OF AMERICA
00:30:59
WILL SINK.
00:31:00
THAT'S WHY WE ARE DOING IT.
00:31:01
>> Bret: GENTLEMEN, I REALLY
00:31:03
APPRECIATE THE TIME TODAY.
00:31:05
AND HOPEFULLY IT TOOK SOME OF
00:31:06
THE MYTH AND MYSTERY OUT O.
00:31:14
>> Bret: WE ASKED ON X YOUR
00:31:18
PLATFORM.
00:31:18
[LAUGHTER]
00:31:19
HERE IS C. SPERLING, HE WRITES
00:31:21
ARE THEY HAPPY AT THE SPEED IN
00:31:23
WHICH THEY ARE MAKING CHANGES?
00:31:24
ARE THERE ANY CHANGES THEY WOULD
00:31:25
LIKE TO MAKE BUT HAVEN'T YET?
00:31:28
>> WELL, I THINK IN THE CONTEXT
00:31:29
OF THE GOVERNMENT WE ARE MOVING
00:31:32
LIKE LIGHT ANY IN THE CONTEXT OF
00:31:34
WHAT I'M USED TO MOVING IT'S
00:31:36
SLOWER THAN WHAT I WOULD LIKE.
00:31:38
SO, WHAT SEEMS LIKE INCREDIBLY
00:31:42
FAST ACTION.
00:31:43
SLOWER THAN I WOULD LIKE TO BE
00:31:45
TOTALLY FRANK.
00:31:47
BUT BUT WE ARE MAKING SOLID
00:31:51
PROGRESS.
00:31:51
VERY SORT OF PHONY PROBLEM,
00:31:54
TOUGH -- REALLY IT'S KIND OF
00:31:55
LIKE PAINFUL HOME WORM FRANKLY
00:31:59
RECONCILING THE GOVERNMENT
00:32:01
DATABASES TO ELIMINATE WASTE AND
00:32:05
YOU FRAUD.
00:32:06
THE DATABASES DON'T TALK TO EACH
00:32:07
OTHER.
00:32:07
THAT'S THE BIGGEST SOURCE FOR
00:32:09
FRAUD IS THE FACT THAT THE
00:32:11
DATABASES DON'T TALK TO EACH
00:32:13
OTHER.
00:32:13
IT'S FRANKLY PAINFUL HOMEWORK
00:32:15
BUT IT HAS TO BE DONE AND WILL
00:32:21
GREATLY INPROVE THE EFFICIENCY
00:32:22
OF THE GOVERNMENT SYSTEMS.
00:32:29
>> THE GOVERNMENT HASN'T PASSED
00:32:31
AUDITS FOR A VERY LONG TIME.
00:32:32
AS CRAZY IT SOUNDS THEY WILL
00:32:34
LOSE 20 OR $30 BILLION A YEAR.
00:32:36
THEY LITERALLY DON'T KNOW WHERE
00:32:38
IT WENT.
00:32:39
I MEAN, SENATOR COLLINS WAS
00:32:40
TELLING ME ABOUT HOW SHE GAVE
00:32:43
THE NAVY $12 BILLION FOR EXTRA
00:32:46
SUBMARINES.
00:32:47
GOT ZERO EXTRA SUBMARINES AND
00:32:48
THEN WHEN SHE HELD A HEARING
00:32:50
SAID WHERE DID THE $12 BILLION
00:32:52
GO THEY DIDN'T KNOW.
00:32:53
>> TALKING TO THOSE GUYS AND YOU
00:32:54
HAVE A GREAT TEAM YOU DON'T HAVE
00:32:59
TO BE HERE.
00:33:03
VIOLENCE AND VANDALISM AT TESLA
00:33:05
DEALERSHIPS.
00:33:06
HOW DOES THAT AFFECT YOUR
00:33:08
EMPLOYEES, YOUR CUSTOMERS?
00:33:09
WHAT DOES IT MEAN TO YOU, LIKE
00:33:11
HOW HAVE YOU TAKEN THAT IN?
00:33:14
>> I THINK A GREAT WRONG IS
00:33:15
BEING DONE TO THE PEOPLE AT
00:33:17
TESLA AND TO YOUR CUSTOMERS.
00:33:19
TESLA IS A PEACEFUL COMPANY THAT
00:33:20
HAS MADE GREAT CARS, GREAT
00:33:22
PRODUCTS.
00:33:23
THAT'S ALL IT'S DONE.
00:33:24
IT HASN'T HARMED ANYONE.
00:33:26
AND YET PEOPLE ARE COMMITTING
00:33:29
VIOLENCE.
00:33:29
THEY ARE FIRE BOMBING TESLA
00:33:31
DEALERSHIPS.
00:33:31
THEY ARE SHOOTING GUNS INTO
00:33:35
STORES.
00:33:35
THEY ARE THREATENING PEOPLE.
00:33:38
YOU KNOW, THEY ARE ISSUING DEATH
00:33:39
THREATS AGAINST ME AND OTHER
00:33:41
TESLA PERSONNEL.
00:33:43
WHAT ARE THEY DOING THIS FOR?
00:33:45
WHY?
00:33:46
AND WHAT'S HAPPENING, IT SEEMS
00:33:47
TO ME, IS THEY ARE BEING FED
00:33:49
PROPAGANDA TO THE FAR LEFT.
00:33:52
AND THEY BELIEVE IT.
00:33:55
IT'S REALLY UNFORTUNATE.
00:33:58
THE REAL PROBLEM IS NOT NOT LIKE
00:34:02
THE CRAZY GUY THAT FIRE BOMBS A
00:34:05
TESLA DEALERSHIP, IT'S THE
00:34:07
PEOPLE PUSHING THE PROPAGANDA
00:34:10
THAT CAUSE THAT GUY TO DO IT.
00:34:19
GO AFTER THEM THE PRESIDENT IS
00:34:23
CLEAR.
00:34:35
ELECTRIC VEHICLES.
00:34:36
SEE ON THE FAR LEFT SOME EFFORTS
00:34:37
TO GO AFTER ELECTRIC VEHICLES IS
00:34:39
QUITE SOMETHING?
00:34:41
IT IS IRONIC.
00:34:42
IT SEEMS LIKE THE MOST IRONIC
00:34:44
OUTCOME IS THE MOST LIKELY.
00:34:50
>> Bret: PERSONALLY IT'S GOT TO
00:34:51
TAKE A TOLL.
00:34:52
>> IT DOES.
00:34:56
IT DOES.
00:34:58
I THINK THERE IS SOME REAL EVIL
00:35:01
OUT THERE.
00:35:01
AND WE HAVE TO OVERCOME IT.
00:35:03
>> Bret: I MEAN, YOU HAVE BEEN
00:35:04
CALLED A NAZI, A WHITE
00:35:06
SUPREMACIST, A FASCIST.
00:35:08
>> I MEAN I GOT THE NORMAL
00:35:12
PLAYBOOK.
00:35:13
THEY I GUESS STILL NEED TO CALL
00:35:15
ME STALIN, MUSSOLINI, YOU KNOW,
00:35:19
WHATEVER.
00:35:19
>> Bret: AND YOU ARE NOT.
00:35:21
>> I MEAN, THEY CALLED THE
00:35:22
PRESIDENT ALL THESE THINGS.
00:35:23
I THINK AT ONE POINT, THERE WAS
00:35:26
MAGAZINE COVER, WHICH SAID THE
00:35:28
PRESIDENT WAS WORST THAN -- THAT
00:35:30
PRESIDENT TRUMP WAS WORSE THAN
00:35:32
HITLER, MUSE LENA AND STALIN
00:35:35
COMBINED.
00:35:35
AND THE PRESIDENT HASN'T KILLED
00:35:40
ANYONE OWE HASN'T STARTED WARS,
00:35:43
IS HE GOOD AT STOPPING WARS.
00:35:44
THEY ARE PUSHING THESE LIES WHY
00:35:48
DO THEY PUSH THESE LIES?
00:35:49
I THINK WE NEED TO HOLD PEOPLE
00:35:51
RESPONSIBLE FOR PUSHING THESE
00:35:52
LIES.
00:35:53
BECAUSE THOSE LIES ALMOST GOT
00:35:55
THE PRESIDENT KILLED.
00:35:58
>> Bret: WHAT'S SOMETHING THAT
00:35:59
PEOPLE WOULDN'T KNOW ABOUT THE
00:36:00
PRESIDENT YOU?
00:36:00
ARE PRETTY CLOSE TO HIM NOW.
00:36:02
YOU SPEND A LOT OF TIME WITH
00:36:04
HIM.
00:36:04
WHAT IS SOMETHING PEOPLE I THINK
00:36:08
THE PRESIDENT IS A GOOD MAN, HUN
00:36:10
NEXT MAN.
00:36:11
AND I HAVE YET TO SEE HIM DO
00:36:16
ANYTHING MEAN OR ANYTHING THAT
00:36:18
IS WRONG.
00:36:18
THAT I WOULD SAY MORALLY WRONG.
00:36:21
NOT EVEN ONCE.
00:36:22
>> Bret: A LOT IS COMING YOUR
00:36:24
WAY, BUT SOMETIMES YOU SAY STUFF
00:36:25
OR POST STUFF THAT GETS
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ATTENTION.
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YOU GIVE IT OUT, IN OTHER WORDS.
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DEMOCRATIC ARIZONA SENATOR MARK
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KELLY POSTED ON X ABOUT HIS TRIP
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TO UKRAINE, TO PUSH FOR
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CONTINUING TO SEND U.S. WEAPONS
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AND SUPPORT THERE.
00:36:38
AND YOU POSTED THAT HE WAS A
00:36:41
TRAITOR.
00:36:42
WHY DO THAT?
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>> WELL, I THINK SOMEBODY SHOULD
00:36:45
BE -- SHOULD CARE ABOUT THE
00:36:47
INTEREST OF THE UNITED STATES
00:36:48
ABOVE THE INTEREST OF ANOTHER
00:36:50
COUNTRY.
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AND IF THEY DON'T, THEY ARE A
00:36:54
TRAITOR.
00:36:55
>> Bret: IS HE A DECORATED
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VETERAN, A FORMER ASTRONAUT A
00:36:58
SITTING SENATOR.
00:36:59
>> THAT DOESN'T MEAN IT'S FOR
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HIM TO PUT THE INTEREST OF
00:37:03
ANOTHER COUNTRY ABOVE AMERICA.
00:37:05
>> Bret: OBVIOUSLY THERE ARE
00:37:06
SOME REPUBLICANS WHO THINK
00:37:07
SUPPORTING UKRAINE IS THE RIGHT
00:37:08
THING, STILL.
00:37:09
BUT THERE IS A BATTLE BACK AND
00:37:11
FORTH ABOUT HOW -- HOW DO YOU
00:37:12
THINK IT COMES TO AN END?
00:37:18
>> WELL, I THINK THERE WILL BE A
00:37:21
NEGOTIATED PEACE AND THE THING
00:37:23
THAT WE SHOULD BE CONCERNED
00:37:24
ABOUT IS WE SHOULD THOUSANDS OF
00:37:28
PEOPLE DYING EVERY DAY IN
00:37:30
TRENCHES FOR NO MOVEMENT IN THE
00:37:33
LINES.
00:37:34
THE BORDERS HAVE REMAINED THE
00:37:35
SAME THE PAST TWO YEARS.
00:37:37
THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE HAVE DIED
00:37:38
EVERY WEEK FOR NOTHING.
00:37:43
FOR WHAT?
00:37:44
AND I TAKE GREAT OFFENSE AT
00:37:49
THOSE WHO -- THOSE WHO PUT THE
00:37:52
APPEARANCE OF GOODNESS OVER THE
00:37:54
REALITY OF IT VIRTUE SIGNAL AND
00:38:01
CAN'T GIVE INTO RUSSIA BUT HAVE
00:38:02
NO SOLUTION TO STOPPING
00:38:03
THOUSANDS OF KIDS DYING EVERY
00:38:05
DAY.
00:38:05
THEY JUST WANT THAT TO CONTINUE
00:38:08
FOREVER.
00:38:09
I HAVE CONTEMPT FOR SUCH PEOPLE.
00:38:11
I WANT TO MAKE THAT CLEAR.
00:38:14
BECAUSE THEY ARE VIRTUE
00:38:16
SIGNALING AND THEIR LACK OF A
00:38:17
SOLUTION MEANS THAT KIDS DON'T
00:38:20
HAVE A FATHER.
00:38:21
IT MEANS THAT PARENTS LOST A
00:38:23
SON.
00:38:27
FOR WHAT?
00:38:29
NOTHING.
00:38:30
>> Bret: YOU ARE OPTIMISTIC THAT
00:38:31
THE PRESIDENT'S PLAN MIGHT WORK?