The Science of Making & Breaking Habits
Zusammenfassung
TLDRIn this insightful episode of the Huberman Lab Podcast, Andrew Huberman delves into the science of habits—how they are formed and how they can be broken. He breaks down complex biological processes into actionable advice. Huberman explains the importance of understanding neuroplasticity—the brain's ability to change—and how it relates to habit formation. He describes dopamine's role in motivation and rewards, offering strategies to manipulate dopamine through tasks highlighting task-bracketing cycles where the brain records activities symbolically bound from start to finish. Huberman introduces concepts like 'limbic friction'—the mental resistance encountered when attempting changes—and distinguishes between identity-based versus goal-based habits. He further segments a standard day into three phases, prescribing each phase to different types of habit-building activities. By aligning new habits with the body's natural circadian rhythm, individuals can enhance their capability to make and break habits more effectively. Practical tools include procedural memory visualization and executing new habits during periods of the day when biological systems support high focus and energy, contrasting with later periods more suited for habits that require less energy to perform. He further shares insights on long-term potentiation and depression, essential cellular mechanisms in both forming good habits and breaking undesirable ones. This episode is essential for anyone looking to understand the science of habits and use this knowledge to adopt new behaviors or eliminate detrimental ones.
Mitbringsel
- 🧠 Understanding neuroplasticity is crucial for forming habits.
- 🚀 Dopamine plays a central role in motivation and habit formation.
- 🔄 Task-bracketing helps in managing habit cycles effectively.
- 🧘 'Limbic friction' describes the effort needed to override inertia.
- 🕒 Day is divided into phases to align habits with biological rhythms.
- 💡 Visualization of procedural steps enhances habit formation.
- ⏳ Habits can take anywhere from 18 to 254 days to form.
- 🏋️ Physical and mental exercises are recommended during specific phases of the day.
- 🛌 Sleep is critical for consolidating neuroplasticity in habit formation.
- ❌ To break habits, replace the behavior immediately with a positive action.
Zeitleiste
- 00:00:00 - 00:05:00
Introduction to the podcast and the topic of habits, covering the biology of habit formation and breaking. Emphasizes the importance of habits in structuring behavior and discusses good and bad habits. Mentions neuroscience and psychology as lesser-known fields that provide valuable insights into habits.
- 00:05:00 - 00:10:00
The podcast is separate from his roles at Stanford and aims to provide free information on science. Sponsors are introduced: Athletic Greens for foundational health needs, and InsideTracker for personalized nutrition based on DNA and blood analysis.
- 00:10:00 - 00:15:00
InsideTracker also offers 'The Inner Age Test' to compare biological vs chronological age. Benefits of personalized health monitoring are mentioned. Helix Sleep, another sponsor, provides tailored sleep products. Personal testimony about the benefits of these products is shared.
- 00:15:00 - 00:20:00
Explanation of habits versus hard-wired reflexes, highlighting that habits are learned behaviors possibly triggered without conscious awareness, often making up 70% of waking behavior. Discusses the role of neurons and neuroplasticity in habit formation, emphasizing learning as forming new neural pathways.
- 00:20:00 - 00:25:00
Highlights distinctions in habit formation: immediate goal-based versus identity-based. Discusses dopamine’s role in motivation and reward, explaining its impact on forming habits. Addresses misconceptions about the time it takes to form habits, referencing a study showing variability from 18 to 254 days.
- 00:25:00 - 00:30:00
Introduction to 'limbic friction,' the effort needed to override different mental states to form habits. Discusses measurement of how much activation energy is required to form or break habits and introduces 'linchpin habits,' which make other habits easier to achieve, stressing the importance of enjoyment in linchpin habits.
- 00:30:00 - 00:35:00
Continues on the concept of limbic friction and its role as an obstacle or motivator in habit formation. Establishes a method to measure limbic friction by evaluating context-dependence and ease of execution of habits, paving the way to identify automaticity in habits where they become reflexive.
- 00:35:00 - 00:40:00
Highlights of the procedural memory and task-bracketing, including their neuronal implications. Emphasizes the importance of visualization in forming habits, tying procedural memory with actions and describing Hebbian learning, which enhances neuron connections when co-activity occurs, thus easing habit formation through visualization and sequential planning.
- 00:40:00 - 00:45:00
Discussion on the basal ganglia and task-bracketing, central to habit formation. Describes how neural circuits activate at the beginning and end of habit execution, promoting habit longevity. The role of state, rather than specific times, in habit formation is stressed, with pointers on incorporating difficult habits based on motivational states.
- 00:45:00 - 00:50:00
Defines three daily phases to anchor habits supporting task-bracketing: phase 1 (0-8 hours post-wake) for high limbic friction activities fueled by certain neurochemicals; phase 2 (9-14 hours post-wake) for lower friction tasks; and phase 3 (16-24 hours post-wake) for rest and neuroplasticity. Each phase utilizes brain state optimizations to maximize habit formation.
- 00:50:00 - 00:55:00
Describes phase 2 activities, focusing on maintaining productive yet relaxed states. Lower environmental stressors like light and temperature impact neuroplasticity and learning. Suggests placing less challenging behaviors in phase 2 to create habits under conducive conditions, helping create a more productive and relaxed state throughout the day.
- 00:55:00 - 01:00:00
Further elaboration on phase 2 activities, emphasizing the lowered energy requirements. Activities that don't need strong motivation are best suited for this period, optimizing context setup for task-bracketing. Reinforces serotonin’s role and physical adjustments like temperature and light exposure to support habit formation during this phase.
- 01:00:00 - 01:05:00
Delves into phase 3 activities, explaining the importance of quality sleep and low-stimulus environments for consolidation of learned habits. Supplementation mentions aim to maintain optimal sleep conditions promoting deep sleep for neural rewiring that occurs syntactically and functionally when rest and habit execution align.
- 01:05:00 - 01:10:00
Explains the manipulation of daily phases for optimal habit formation, emphasizing task bracketing through states rather than strict timing. Encourages variability post-habit establishment to test context independence. Guides on the concept of dopamine as a motivational molecule, employing its prediction variance for habit adherence.
- 01:10:00 - 01:15:00
Insights into dopamine reward prediction error, emphasizing its role in anticipating and integrating behaviors, thereby proposing reward anticipation strategies extending beyond single habit execution. Dopaminergic mechanisms provide energy and motivation for desired actions, driving towards context independence.
- 01:15:00 - 01:20:00
Describes a 21-day program for habit formation, aiming to build the ability to perform habits rather than their exact execution. Explains the significance of phase-specific activities facilitating flexibility, enhancing habit retention. The program strategically incorporates phase-based elevation of dopamine and serotonin levels.
- 01:20:00 - 01:25:00
Concludes discussion on the 21-day program, encouraging evaluative behavior post 21-day trial to test habit reflexiveness rather than expansion. Allows realistic habit absorption avoiding overload. Incorporates design for non-punitive failures, fostering persistence by chunking tasks to strengthen new neural maps supporting habit retention.
- 01:25:00 - 01:30:00
Provides tools for breaking habits using a post-habit intervention framework. Advocates for temporary mismatches via positive insertion post bad habits, disrupting closed neural circuits. Taps into Hebbian and non-Hebbian learning, promoting neuroplastic adjustment. Critiques traditional rewards/punishment highlighting meta-analysis findings.
- 01:30:00 - 01:50:38
Final segment reflects on overall concepts covered in the podcast, emphasizing practical applications of neuroscience and psychology in personal habit management. Encouragement to access additional resources through newsletters and podcast back catalog, reinforcing engagement with science-backed strategies for habit modification.
Mind Map
Häufig gestellte Fragen
Who is Andrew Huberman?
Andrew Huberman is a Professor of Neurobiology and Ophthalmology at Stanford School of Medicine.
What is the main topic of this podcast episode?
The main topic is the science of habit formation and breaking.
What are the phases of the day discussed in the podcast?
The day is divided into three phases: Phase 1 (0-8 hours after waking), Phase 2 (9-14/15 hours after waking), and Phase 3 (16-24 hours after waking).
What is 'task-bracketing'?
Task-bracketing is the neural process involving habits, highlighting the brain's activity at habit initiation and termination.
What is 'limbic friction'?
Limbic friction is a concept that describes the mental and physical effort required to override inertia to do something.
What role does dopamine play in habit formation?
Dopamine plays a crucial role in habit formation by affecting motivation and reward prediction error, enhancing neural circuit plasticity.
What is the suggested approach to breaking bad habits?
The approach involves creating long-term depression by executing a positive habit immediately after a bad habit to change the neural pathway.
How long does it take to form a habit according to research mentioned in the podcast?
It can take anywhere from 18 days to 254 days for different individuals to form the same habit.
What is the Lally study mentioned in the podcast?
The Lally study is a research that showed forming a habit can take 18 to 254 days depending on the individual.
What are some practical tools discussed for habit formation?
Tools include task-bracketing, procedural memory visualization, and managing dopamine release.
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- 00:00:00- Welcome to the Huberman Lab Podcast,
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- 00:00:06[mellow music]
- 00:00:09I'm Andrew Huberman and I'm a Professor of Neurobiology
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- 00:00:14Today we're talking all about habits.
- 00:00:16In particular,
- 00:00:17we're going to discuss the biology of habit formation
- 00:00:20and the biology of how we break habits.
- 00:00:24I think we can all appreciate the value of having habits.
- 00:00:27Habits organize our behavior
- 00:00:29into more or less reflexive actions
- 00:00:31so we don't have to think too much
- 00:00:33about performing the various behaviors that, for instance,
- 00:00:37allow us to brush our teeth
- 00:00:38or which side of bed we roll out of in the morning.
- 00:00:41And then of course, habits can be more elaborate too.
- 00:00:44We can be in the habit of exercising
- 00:00:46at a particular time of day.
- 00:00:47We can be in the habit of eating certain foods.
- 00:00:49We can be in the habit of saying or saying certain things.
- 00:00:52But of course,
- 00:00:53there are many habits that don't serve us well,
- 00:00:55or that perhaps even undermine our immediate
- 00:00:58and long term health goals and psychological goals.
- 00:01:01And even some habits
- 00:01:02that can really undermine our overall life goals.
- 00:01:05So today we're going to talk about making, meaning forming,
- 00:01:08and breaking, meaning stopping, various habits.
- 00:01:11There's a lot of information out there about habits.
- 00:01:14You'll find this in the popular sphere.
- 00:01:16There are books, there are articles, there are workshops,
- 00:01:18and so forth.
- 00:01:19However, lesser known is that there's a whole neuroscience
- 00:01:22of habit formation and habit breaking.
- 00:01:24And there's a whole field of psychology devoted
- 00:01:26to understanding habit formation and habit breaking.
- 00:01:30And within those scientific literatures,
- 00:01:32I think there are some real gems that,
- 00:01:34at least to my knowledge,
- 00:01:35we haven't paid too much attention to
- 00:01:37in the popular sphere.
- 00:01:38So today,
- 00:01:39we're going to talk about the biology of habit formation
- 00:01:41and habit breaking.
- 00:01:47I'm going to boil these down to some very explicit steps
- 00:01:51that anyone can use.
- 00:01:53My reasoning for doing that is, first of all,
- 00:01:55it's the end of 2021.
- 00:01:57Many people are thinking about new year's resolutions.
- 00:01:59They're thinking about leaving some things behind from 2021
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- 00:02:05And acquiring some new behaviors,
- 00:02:07taking on some new challenges,
- 00:02:08and trying to bring new things to their lives.
- 00:02:10But regardless of when you're listening to this,
- 00:02:12the programs that I'll outline
- 00:02:14are grounded in the neuroscience
- 00:02:16and biology of habit formation.
- 00:02:18And they map very well
- 00:02:19to what the psychologists have described,
- 00:02:21in terms of habit formation and breaking.
- 00:02:23So today you're going to learn a lot of science,
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- 00:02:28or goals, there'll be something of value to you.
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- 00:06:54Let's talk about habits.
- 00:06:55And anytime we're talking about habits,
- 00:06:57that means our nervous system learns something.
- 00:07:00Now, many people think that habits are just like reflexes,
- 00:07:04but pure reflexes are things like the eye blink reflex.
- 00:07:08You know, something comes towards your eye
- 00:07:09and you don't want it to get in your eye, you'll blink.
- 00:07:11Or if you happen to step on a sharp object,
- 00:07:14or get too close to something that's too hot,
- 00:07:17you'll reflexively move away.
- 00:07:18Those aren't habits.
- 00:07:19Those are what we call hard-wired reflexes.
- 00:07:22Habits are things that our nervous system learned,
- 00:07:25but not always consciously.
- 00:07:27Sometimes we develop habits that we're not even aware of
- 00:07:30until they become a problem
- 00:07:32or maybe they serve us well.
- 00:07:34Who knows?
- 00:07:35But the fact of the matter is
- 00:07:36that habits are a big part of who we are.
- 00:07:38What we do habitually makes up much of what we do entirely.
- 00:07:43In fact, it's estimated
- 00:07:44that up to 70% of our waking behavior is made up
- 00:07:47of habitual behavior.
- 00:07:50So, you can imagine that there's a lot of biology,
- 00:07:53meaning cells and hormones and neural pathways, et cetera,
- 00:07:56that are going to support development of those habits.
- 00:07:59So if habits are largely, learned,
- 00:08:01consciously or unconsciously,
- 00:08:03we have to ask ourselves,
- 00:08:05what is learning?
- 00:08:06Well, learning is neuroplasticity.
- 00:08:08Neuroplasticity is simply the process
- 00:08:11by which our nervous system changes
- 00:08:13in response to experience.
- 00:08:14We have to ask, what changes?
- 00:08:16Well, what changes are the connections between neurons.
- 00:08:19Neurons are just nerve cells.
- 00:08:21They communicate with one another by electricity
- 00:08:23and by sending chemical signals to one another
- 00:08:26that inspire the next neuron and the next neuron
- 00:08:28to either electrically active or not.
- 00:08:30But at the end of the day,
- 00:08:32neuroplasticity is about forming new neural circuits,
- 00:08:35new pathways by which certain habits are likely to occur,
- 00:08:38and other ones are less likely to occur.
- 00:08:40So, we've got habits.
- 00:08:41We have that habits are learned,
- 00:08:44we have that learning involves neuroplasticity,
- 00:08:46and that neuroplasticity involves changes
- 00:08:48in the connections between neurons, nerve cells.
- 00:08:51Okay, so that describes habits through the lens
- 00:08:53of neuroscience and biology,
- 00:08:55but as many of you are well aware,
- 00:08:57there are popular books about habits
- 00:08:59and there's a whole psychological literature about habits,
- 00:09:02and those two areas point
- 00:09:05to some very interesting aspects of habits
- 00:09:07that I think are worth mentioning.
- 00:09:09First of all is this notion of immediate goal-based habits
- 00:09:13versus identity-based habits.
- 00:09:15Immediate goal-based habits are going to be habits
- 00:09:18that are designed to bring you a specific outcome
- 00:09:21as you do them,
- 00:09:22so each and every time you do them.
- 00:09:24So for instance,
- 00:09:25it might be that you want to develop a habit of getting,
- 00:09:28you know, 60 minutes of zone II cardio each day,
- 00:09:32or perhaps 3-4 times per week, as we head into the new year.
- 00:09:36I've talked before on the podcast about the fact
- 00:09:39that the scientific literature
- 00:09:40and the health literature really points
- 00:09:41to the incredibly positive effects
- 00:09:44of getting 150 minutes to 180 minutes per week minimum
- 00:09:48of what's called zone II cardio.
- 00:09:50Zone II cardio is basically any cardiovascular exercise
- 00:09:53that gets you moving, and your heart pumping,
- 00:09:56and breathing,
- 00:09:57but not so hard that you can't hold a conversation,
- 00:09:59and so that kind of puts you at the threshold
- 00:10:02of just being just able to have a conversation
- 00:10:02that's a little bit strained,
- 00:10:03but if you were to exercise a little bit harder,
- 00:10:05you know, run a little bit faster, et cetera,
- 00:10:08you wouldn't be able to talk while you did it.
- 00:10:09There's a lot of literature that points to that
- 00:10:12as a healthy practice.
- 00:10:13So maybe you're somebody that wants
- 00:10:15to get more of zone II cardio, for instance.
- 00:10:18That would be an immediate goal-based habit
- 00:10:21if your goal is to get that cardio,
- 00:10:25maybe 4 times a week.
- 00:10:27Every time you do it you check off a little box
- 00:10:29and you say, "Okay, I did it." You met the goal.
- 00:10:32That is different than so-called identity-based habits
- 00:10:36where there's a larger, over-arching theme to the habit,
- 00:10:39where you're trying to become, quote unquote,
- 00:10:41"a fit person".
- 00:10:42Or you're somebody who wants to be an athlete
- 00:10:46or something of that sort.
- 00:10:47It's where you start to attach some sort of larger picture
- 00:10:49about yourself or what it means for you to do that habit
- 00:10:53where there's both the immediate goal, right?
- 00:10:56Complete the exercise, complete the session,
- 00:10:58or whatever it is, check off that box.
- 00:11:01But that you're linking it to some sort of larger goal.
- 00:11:03Now, why am I making this distinction?
- 00:11:05I mean, first of all,
- 00:11:06I'm not the one to first make this distinction.
- 00:11:08Others have made the distinction between identity
- 00:11:10versus immediate goal-based habit formation.
- 00:11:12But the reason I'm making the distinction is
- 00:11:14that pretty soon in our discussion today
- 00:11:16we are going to talk about dopamine,
- 00:11:18a molecule that's associated with motivation and reward,
- 00:11:22that we make in our brain,
- 00:11:24and how different schedules of dopamine release
- 00:11:27predict where we will stick to a habit or not.
- 00:11:31And in particular,
- 00:11:32whether or not we will be able to form that habit quickly
- 00:11:35or not.
- 00:11:35Now, this is absolutely critical to understand
- 00:11:39for the following reason.
- 00:11:40Another thing that you'll hear out there in the literature
- 00:11:42is that it takes 21 days to form a habit.
- 00:11:45Some people say 18, some people say 21,
- 00:11:47some people say 30 days, some people say 60 days.
- 00:11:50So which one is it?
- 00:11:51Does it depend on the habit that one is trying to form?
- 00:11:53Or does it depend on the person
- 00:11:54that's trying to form the habit?
- 00:11:56Well, it turns out
- 00:11:57that there's excellent peer-reviewed data on this.
- 00:11:59There's a study published in 2010,
- 00:12:01first author Lally, L A L L Y.
- 00:12:03This study found that,
- 00:12:04for the same habit to be formed,
- 00:12:07it can take anywhere from 18 days
- 00:12:10to as many as 254 days for different individuals
- 00:12:14to form that habit.
- 00:12:15The reason I bring this up, is that I always get asked,
- 00:12:18"Is it true that it takes 21 days to form a habit?"
- 00:12:20"Is it true that your nervous system changes in six days"
- 00:12:23"when you're doing something repeatedly?"
- 00:12:25And the answer is, as I mentioned before,
- 00:12:28it's highly variable.
- 00:12:29What I didn't tell you actually,
- 00:12:30is what specific habit they were looking at
- 00:12:32in that Lally study.
- 00:12:34And it's interesting that the specific behavior
- 00:12:36was a health-related behavior.
- 00:12:38That's pretty relevant to our discussion here,
- 00:12:40on the podcast.
- 00:12:41Which was taking walks after dinner.
- 00:12:43There's actually a really nice literature
- 00:12:46showing that walks after a meal
- 00:12:48can speed glucose clearance from the blood stream,
- 00:12:51can be beneficial for not just weight loss,
- 00:12:53but cardiovascular health, et cetera.
- 00:12:55So a walk after dinner seems pretty straight-forward, right?
- 00:12:58Well, in order to form that habit,
- 00:13:00it took some people 18 days and other people 254 days.
- 00:13:05How did they know when they formed the habit?
- 00:13:06Well, they were doing it about 85% of the time
- 00:13:09and they also reported not having to spend
- 00:13:12that much mental effort in order to get into to the mode
- 00:13:16of taking a walk after dinner.
- 00:13:17So, for those of you listening,
- 00:13:19some of you might be thinking,
- 00:13:19"I can't believe that it would take certain people 254 days"
- 00:13:22"to get into that habit."
- 00:13:24As I said, people are highly variable
- 00:13:26and if you can't form one habit easily,
- 00:13:29it doesn't mean that you can't form other habits easily.
- 00:13:31The mystery of why certain people
- 00:13:34can form certain habits more easily than others?
- 00:13:37Probably has something to do with how people manage
- 00:13:40what's called limbic friction.
- 00:13:42Now, limbic friction is not a term that you're going to find
- 00:13:44in the formal neurobiological literature
- 00:13:47or even some of the psychological literature.
- 00:13:49It's, frankly, a term that I coined
- 00:13:51to encompass a number of different pieces
- 00:13:54of the psychology and neuroscience literature.
- 00:13:57Limbic friction is a short-hand way
- 00:13:59that I use to describe the strain that's required
- 00:14:03in order to overcome one of two states within your body.
- 00:14:07One state is one of anxiousness,
- 00:14:08where you're really anxious
- 00:14:09and therefore you can't calm down, you can't relax,
- 00:14:13and therefore you can't engage in some particular activity
- 00:14:16or thought pattern that you would like.
- 00:14:17The other state is one in which you're feeling too tired
- 00:14:20or lazy or not motivated.
- 00:14:22Both of those states, feeling too alert
- 00:14:25and too calm, if you will,
- 00:14:26relate to the function
- 00:14:27of the so-called autonomic nervous system,
- 00:14:29a set of neurons and hormones and chemicals in your brain
- 00:14:32and body that act as sort of a see-saw.
- 00:14:34You're either alert or calm.
- 00:14:36You're either asleep or stressed.
- 00:14:38Those two states are not compatible with one another.
- 00:14:41You've probably heard of "wired and tired"
- 00:14:42but that's really once you've been very stressed
- 00:14:45for a long time, to the point where you're exhausted.
- 00:14:47What does the autonomic nervous system have to do
- 00:14:49with any of this?
- 00:14:50Well, limbic friction is a phrase
- 00:14:53that can be used to describe how much effort,
- 00:14:55how much activation energy you need
- 00:14:58in order to engage in a particular behavior.
- 00:15:00So, using this Lally study as an example,
- 00:15:03some people would eat dinner, and then say,
- 00:15:05"Oh, that's right, I've been trying to develop the habit"
- 00:15:07"of taking a walk after dinner."
- 00:15:08"So, let's get up and go."
- 00:15:10Other people will feel like,
- 00:15:11"I just don't want to do it today."
- 00:15:12They're going to feel too much limbic friction
- 00:15:14and that limbic friction could arrive, again,
- 00:15:16from one of two sources.
- 00:15:18It could be because they are too tired to do it
- 00:15:20or it could be because they're too anxious
- 00:15:22and distracted in order to do it.
- 00:15:25So, this is a key distinction.
- 00:15:27A lot of habit formation has to do
- 00:15:29with being in the right state of mind
- 00:15:30and being able to control your state of body and mind.
- 00:15:34So as we march forward,
- 00:15:35what you're going to find is that this phrase
- 00:15:37or this term, limbic friction,
- 00:15:39is going to be a useful metric
- 00:15:40or a way for you to touch in with yourself
- 00:15:42and address whether or not you are likely
- 00:15:45to be able to form a certain habit easily
- 00:15:47or whether or not it's going to be very challenging.
- 00:15:49And I'm going to teach you a way
- 00:15:50to measure your degree of limbic friction.
- 00:15:53That is, how much activation energy it will take
- 00:15:55in order for you to execute a new habit.
- 00:15:58And I'm going to teach you
- 00:16:00how to measure your limbic friction
- 00:16:01and activation energy for how likely it is
- 00:16:03that you're going to be able to break a habit
- 00:16:06that you don't want to have.
- 00:16:07The other key concept for us to address
- 00:16:10that's really mainly found in the books
- 00:16:12and articles out there about habits,
- 00:16:14is this notions of what I call linchpin habits.
- 00:16:16Linchpin habits are certain habits
- 00:16:18that make a lot of other habits easier to execute.
- 00:16:21Now, the sorts of linchpin habits
- 00:16:23that I'm referring to are always going to be things
- 00:16:26that you enjoy doing.
- 00:16:27I'll just give you an example from my life.
- 00:16:29I happen to like exercise.
- 00:16:31Not all forms of exercise,
- 00:16:33but I happen to like resistance training
- 00:16:35and I happen to like running.
- 00:16:37So I'm personally in the habit
- 00:16:38of getting cardiovascular exercise 3 or 4 times per week.
- 00:16:41Maybe 30-60 minutes per session.
- 00:16:44And I'm in the habit of doing resistance training 3
- 00:16:46or 4 times per week,
- 00:16:48typically also for about 45 to 60 minutes per session.
- 00:16:51Now, I enjoy those,
- 00:16:53and for reasons that I'll get into a little bit later,
- 00:16:55I enjoy those activities typically early in the day
- 00:16:58because of the neurochemistry
- 00:17:00and the various types of hormones, et cetera,
- 00:17:03that are associates with performing those activities.
- 00:17:05But I really place those activities under the umbrella
- 00:17:09of what I call linchpin habits.
- 00:17:12Why? Because those particular habits are easy
- 00:17:14to execute because I enjoy them.
- 00:17:16But they also make a lot of other habits easier to execute.
- 00:17:20Things like being alert for work,
- 00:17:22things like making sure
- 00:17:24that I get good sleep the night before,
- 00:17:26things like hydration,
- 00:17:27things like making sure that I eat the foods
- 00:17:29that are better for me than some of the other foods
- 00:17:32that maybe I would more reflexively reach to
- 00:17:34if I weren't doing that training.
- 00:17:36So certain habits act as linchpins,
- 00:17:39meaning that they shift a lot of other things.
- 00:17:41They can control and bias the likelihood that,
- 00:17:44in this case you or me,
- 00:17:46will perform other habits that are harder to access,
- 00:17:49that we have less of an affinity for.
- 00:17:52So again,
- 00:17:53there's three concepts that we need to include here.
- 00:17:55We've got identity-based versus goal-based habits.
- 00:17:58We've got the concept that typically different habits
- 00:18:00take different periods of time to adopt,
- 00:18:03depending on the person and the habit.
- 00:18:04And that there are these, what I call linchpin habits.
- 00:18:07Certain habits that make other habits easier to execute.
- 00:18:11And those linchpin habits
- 00:18:12always, always, always are things that we enjoy doing.
- 00:18:16So our goal throughout this episode is for you to identify
- 00:18:19which habits are easy for you to perform,
- 00:18:22which ones are hard for you to perform,
- 00:18:24and which habits you want to break.
- 00:18:26If you want to grab a pen and paper, you can do that.
- 00:18:28Or if you want to dictate some of that into your phone,
- 00:18:30you can.
- 00:18:31But right now, actually,
- 00:18:32if you just want to think about these concepts,
- 00:18:34you can always go back later,
- 00:18:35I'll be sure to spell out a very specific way
- 00:18:38that you can chart out a map
- 00:18:40towards forming particular habits
- 00:18:41and breaking particular habits later on.
- 00:18:44What I'd like us to do at this point is
- 00:18:47to take that concepts of limbic friction
- 00:18:49and for you to ask yourself
- 00:18:51what habits you perform on a daily basis,
- 00:18:54and these could be things as basic
- 00:18:57as brushing your teeth before breakfast,
- 00:18:59or brushing your teeth after breakfast.
- 00:19:01It could be, for instance, that you get exercise
- 00:19:03or you get it at a particular time of day,
- 00:19:05or even that you take a particular route to work, right?
- 00:19:08We are very habitual
- 00:19:09and we tend to do things more or less over and over
- 00:19:12in the same way, unless we intervene in ourselves.
- 00:19:15That's just the way that we are wired.
- 00:19:16So now I'd like you to shift
- 00:19:18to thinking about a particular aspect of habits
- 00:19:21and that's habit strength.
- 00:19:24Now, you all have different habits.
- 00:19:26You probably brush your teeth at a particular time of day,
- 00:19:28you probably exercise at particular times of week,
- 00:19:30you probably go to the refrigerator in a very habitual way.
- 00:19:33We are incredibly habitual organisms.
- 00:19:36Unless we intervene in our habits,
- 00:19:37they tend to carry out the same way that they always have
- 00:19:40once they've formed.
- 00:19:41So you can do this exercise now,
- 00:19:43you don't have to write this down if you don't want to,
- 00:19:44but you certainly are welcome.
- 00:19:46We're going to evaluate what's called habit strength.
- 00:19:49That's not a concept that I created.
- 00:19:50Habit strength is something
- 00:19:51that you will find in the psychological literature.
- 00:19:54Habit strength is measured by two main criteria.
- 00:19:57The first, is how context-dependent a give habit is.
- 00:20:01So, context dependence is,
- 00:20:03if you go from one environment to the next,
- 00:20:07do you tend to do the same thing,
- 00:20:09in the same way, at the same time of day?
- 00:20:11So, for instance,
- 00:20:12brushing your teeth firs thing in the morning.
- 00:20:13Maybe some of you do that before breakfast,
- 00:20:15maybe some of you do that later,
- 00:20:16maybe some of you, like me, don't even eat breakfast.
- 00:20:18But when I travel, I tend to brush my teeth at more
- 00:20:22or less the same time of day relative to when I wake up
- 00:20:25as I do when I'm at home.
- 00:20:26So it's context independent.
- 00:20:28So it's a very strong habit, right?
- 00:20:31There are certain behaviors,
- 00:20:33like perhaps what you eat,
- 00:20:35or, you know, perhaps how you dress,
- 00:20:38that are context independent,
- 00:20:40that you might perform one way in one context,
- 00:20:43and another way in another context.
- 00:20:45The other aspect of habit strength is
- 00:20:47how much limbic friction is required
- 00:20:49to perform that habit on a regular basis.
- 00:20:52This is extremely important
- 00:20:53because if you are in the process of building habits
- 00:20:57and consolidating those habits,
- 00:20:59then it's probably going to take more limbic friction
- 00:21:03to execute those habits.
- 00:21:05What do I mean by that?
- 00:21:06Well, let's say you set out to get,
- 00:21:08let's say 45 minutes of zone II cardio exercise every day,
- 00:21:125 or maybe even 7 days a week.
- 00:21:14Well, if at first you're highly motivated,
- 00:21:18limbic friction might be pretty low.
- 00:21:20Limbic friction is how much top-down,
- 00:21:22meaning from your fore-brain to your limbic system,
- 00:21:24the part of you brain that generates autonomic responses,
- 00:21:27how much limbic friction,
- 00:21:30meaning conscious over-ride of your state is required
- 00:21:35in order to engage in that particular behavior.
- 00:21:37So, if you're feeling particularly tired
- 00:21:38and you don't want to get out of bed,
- 00:21:40and you don't want to go out and do your zone II cardio,
- 00:21:42then there's a high degree of limbic friction.
- 00:21:44It takes, some people think of it as motivation,
- 00:21:47but motivation is a bit of a vague concept,
- 00:21:49whereas limbic friction involves specific neural circuits
- 00:21:51and you can think of it in a more or less quantitative way.
- 00:21:54You can think of that your body is very tired,
- 00:21:56so it's going to take more limbic friction
- 00:21:58in order to get into action.
- 00:22:00Right?
- 00:22:01You're going to have to overcome more limbic friction,
- 00:22:02excuse me.
- 00:22:03Whereas if you're very, very alert,
- 00:22:04there's less limbic friction
- 00:22:06because you're moving toward something
- 00:22:08that's action oriented.
- 00:22:09However, the inverse is also true.
- 00:22:11Let's say that you are trying to get into the habit,
- 00:22:14or you're in the early stages of forming a habit
- 00:22:16to meditate regularly.
- 00:22:18That's a pretty quiescent or calming activity,
- 00:22:22so if you're somebody who comes home from work
- 00:22:23and you're very anxious and you have a lot of work to do
- 00:22:26and you have to deal with a bunch of things,
- 00:22:28there's a lot of limbic friction to overcome
- 00:22:30in order to get into that calm state.
- 00:22:32So these two aspects, context dependence,
- 00:22:35whether or not you're like to do the thing
- 00:22:37regardless of where you are.
- 00:22:39Right? On travel, at home, on vacation,
- 00:22:42with people around, not people around, et cetera.
- 00:22:44And how much limbic friction is required
- 00:22:46to execute that habit,
- 00:22:48will tell you whether or not that habit is deeply
- 00:22:50or just shallowly embedded within your nervous system.
- 00:22:54The goal of any habit that we want to form
- 00:22:56is to get into what's called automaticity.
- 00:22:58Automaticity is fancy language
- 00:23:00for the neural circuits can perform it automatically,
- 00:23:03and that's the ultimate place to be.
- 00:23:05All right, if you have all these goals
- 00:23:08and things that you want to be doing on a regular basis,
- 00:23:10you'd love for them to be habitual
- 00:23:12because it takes less mental and physical effort,
- 00:23:14less limbic friction,
- 00:23:16in order to execute those.
- 00:23:17And so much of what's out there,
- 00:23:19again in the popular psychology literature,
- 00:23:22in books that you'll find on the bookstore shelf
- 00:23:24and on Amazon, and in the airports,
- 00:23:26are about how to get
- 00:23:27from that mode of high degree of limbic friction
- 00:23:29to automaticity.
- 00:23:31And they offer a number of different ways,
- 00:23:33I think many of which are useful,
- 00:23:34trying to get you to organize different types of habits
- 00:23:37into different bins, like value-based, and goal-based,
- 00:23:39and trying to persuade you
- 00:23:41that structuring habits at the particular times of day
- 00:23:43or in a particular way are going to be beneficial,
- 00:23:46and indeed, I think they have helped a lot of people.
- 00:23:48So what I'd like to do is to take the scientific literature
- 00:23:51of how the nervous system learns
- 00:23:53and engages in plasticity,
- 00:23:55and apply that to habit formation,
- 00:23:58habit maintenance, and if so desired,
- 00:24:00how to break particular habits.
- 00:24:03I'd like to give you a particular tool
- 00:24:04that's gleaned from the research psychology literature.
- 00:24:07I should mention that I learned about this
- 00:24:10from an excellent review article
- 00:24:12that's available online.
- 00:24:13It's called Psychology of Habit.
- 00:24:15The authors are Wendy Wood and Dennis Ruenger,
- 00:24:18this is published in Annual Review of Psychology.
- 00:24:21The Annual Reviews series is a very high quality series.
- 00:24:25There are annual reviews of neuroscience,
- 00:24:27annual reviews of psychology,
- 00:24:29annual reviews of nutrition science, et cetera.
- 00:24:31For those of you
- 00:24:32that are interested in exploring review articles
- 00:24:34that are grounded in hundreds of quality,
- 00:24:37peer-reviewed studies,
- 00:24:38the Annual Review series is really terrific.
- 00:24:41Certainly among the best, if not the best.
- 00:24:43And they also tend to be quite long and quite comprehensive.
- 00:24:45So this review, Psychology of Habit by Wood
- 00:24:46and Ruenger, is excellent.
- 00:24:49And here I'm more or less paraphrasing from them,
- 00:24:53so I want to be clear that these are their words, not mine.
- 00:24:57They're talking about the various ways
- 00:24:59that habits form in the nervous system
- 00:25:01and they mention, with each repetition of a habit,
- 00:25:05small changes occur in the cognitive and neural mechanisms
- 00:25:09associated with procedural memory.
- 00:25:11So I just want to talk for a second
- 00:25:12about what procedural memory is.
- 00:25:14In the neuroscience of memory,
- 00:25:16we distinguish between what's called episodic memory
- 00:25:19and procedural memory.
- 00:25:20Episodic memory is a recall of a particular set of events
- 00:25:24that happened,
- 00:25:25whereas procedural memory
- 00:25:27is holding in mind the specific sequence of things
- 00:25:29that need to happen
- 00:25:30in order for a particular outcome to occur.
- 00:25:32So think of it like a recipe or a protocol,
- 00:25:35or for the sake of exercise,
- 00:25:37it's like sets and reps,
- 00:25:38or a particular course that you're going to run or cycle,
- 00:25:41or the number of laps you're going to swim
- 00:25:43and how you're going to perform it.
- 00:25:45It's very clear that for anyone trying to adopt new habits,
- 00:25:49getting into the mindset of procedural memory is very useful
- 00:25:54for overcoming that barrier that we call limbic friction.
- 00:25:56How do you do that?
- 00:25:57Well, a simple visualization exercise,
- 00:26:00or it doesn't even have to be done eyes closed.
- 00:26:03You know, often times we hear visualization exercise,
- 00:26:05you think about sitting in a lotus position, eyes closed,
- 00:26:07you know, trying really hard to visualize something.
- 00:26:10Doesn't need to be anything like that.
- 00:26:12It can simply be, if you are deciding to adopt a new habit,
- 00:26:16to just think about the very specific sequence of steps
- 00:26:19that's required to execute that habit.
- 00:26:22And I'll use a trivial example,
- 00:26:24but this could be applied to anything.
- 00:26:26Let's say I want to get into the habit of making myself,
- 00:26:29or someone else in my household,
- 00:26:31a cup of espresso every morning,
- 00:26:33I would actually think through each of those steps.
- 00:26:36Walk into the kitchen, turn on the espresso machine,
- 00:26:40draw the espresso.
- 00:26:41Walking through each of those steps, from start to finish,
- 00:26:44and it turns out just that simple mental exercise done once
- 00:26:47can shift people towards a much higher likelihood
- 00:26:50of performing that habit regularly,
- 00:26:53not just the first time,
- 00:26:54but as they continue out into the days
- 00:26:56and weeks that follow.
- 00:26:58So that's remarkable to me
- 00:26:59and the literature is really robust.
- 00:27:01Just one mental exercise of thinking through
- 00:27:04what are the sequence of steps required
- 00:27:07in order to perform this habit from start to finish
- 00:27:09can shift the likelihood of being able to perform that habit
- 00:27:13from unlikely or moderately likely,
- 00:27:15to very likely over time.
- 00:27:17And that's because it pulls from this process
- 00:27:20that involves our hippocampus and our neocortex
- 00:27:22and other areas of our brain and nervous system,
- 00:27:25that engage in procedural memory.
- 00:27:26It shifts the brain towards a mindset, if you will.
- 00:27:29It's more of a neural circuit set, would be more accurate.
- 00:27:33But a mindset/neural circuit set
- 00:27:36of doing things in a particular sequence,
- 00:27:39which allows that limbic friction to come down
- 00:27:41and increases the likelihood
- 00:27:43that we're going to perform that thing.
- 00:27:45Simple tool but very powerful too,
- 00:27:46according to the psychology literature.
- 00:27:48And actually, the cellular and molecular mechanisms
- 00:27:50that underlie that sort of procedural memory,
- 00:27:53stepping through phenomenon are known.
- 00:27:56In this article I mentioned, this beautiful review,
- 00:27:59they talk about so called Hebbian learning.
- 00:28:03Donald Hebb was a psychologist in Canada
- 00:28:06and birthed this field that has now lasted, gosh,
- 00:28:09more than 50 years and is still very strong
- 00:28:11in neuroscience and psychology of Hebbian learning.
- 00:28:14Hebbian learning is when particular neurons are co-active,
- 00:28:18meaning when they fire together,
- 00:28:19they tend to strengthen their connections
- 00:28:21with one another.
- 00:28:22And it has a number of different cellular
- 00:28:24and molecular features
- 00:28:25that we don't have to go into in detail,
- 00:28:26but for those of you that want to know,
- 00:28:28I know some of you are hungry
- 00:28:29for a little bit more neuroscience,
- 00:28:31this involves things like NMDA receptors
- 00:28:34and methyl-D-aspartate receptors.
- 00:28:37NMDA receptors are really important I think
- 00:28:39for everyone to understand.
- 00:28:40So I'll just tell you a little bit about them.
- 00:28:42These are receptors that are on the neuron's surface
- 00:28:45and normally they don't contribute much
- 00:28:46to the activity of those neurons.
- 00:28:48Those neurons are perfectly capable of doing their thing
- 00:28:50without activation of this NMDA receptor.
- 00:28:53But when a neuron gets a very strong input,
- 00:28:55a strong stimulus,
- 00:28:57that NMDA receptor triggers a number of mechanisms
- 00:29:00that recruit
- 00:29:01to the surface of the neuron more other receptors.
- 00:29:04In other words, it makes that neuron more responsive
- 00:29:07to input in the future
- 00:29:08such that it doesn't require so much input.
- 00:29:11In other words, it takes a neuron
- 00:29:14that is very unlikely to fire
- 00:29:16and makes it more likely to fire.
- 00:29:18So this procedural stepping through
- 00:29:20of the steps of the recipe
- 00:29:21or the series of actions steps that are involved
- 00:29:24in sitting down to study and writing for an hour,
- 00:29:27or generating exercise,
- 00:29:28whatever is the habit that you're trying to learn.
- 00:29:30When you're doing that exercise,
- 00:29:32it's not as if your nervous system
- 00:29:33thinks you're actually performing that behavior.
- 00:29:35Your nervous system isn't stupid.
- 00:29:36It's actually a lot smarter than that.
- 00:29:38It knows the difference between a thought and an action,
- 00:29:41but when you do that,
- 00:29:42it sets in motion the same neurons
- 00:29:44that are going to be required
- 00:29:46for the execution of that habit.
- 00:29:47And so when you actually show up to perform that habit,
- 00:29:50it's as if the dominoes fall more easily.
- 00:29:53It's a lower threshold, as we say,
- 00:29:56in order to get the habit to perform.
- 00:29:58So, Hebbian learning, NMDA receptors,
- 00:30:00all that nuts and bolts stuff.
- 00:30:03Really the guts of the mechanisms of how this works.
- 00:30:05But for those of you that just want
- 00:30:07to be more habitual about certain things,
- 00:30:09be able to perform certain things more reflexively,
- 00:30:11that you would like in your life,
- 00:30:13simply take the time, do it once, maybe twice,
- 00:30:16and just sit down, close your eyes if you like,
- 00:30:18and just step through the procedure
- 00:30:20of what it's going to take in order to perform that habit.
- 00:30:22The psychology literature, as I mentioned,
- 00:30:25and also the neuroscience literature,
- 00:30:26strongly supports the fact
- 00:30:28that it is going to make it far easier
- 00:30:31for you to adopt and maintain that habit.
- 00:30:33And if you are somebody who used to perform a habit,
- 00:30:36and you don't understand why you dropped it,
- 00:30:39and you're frustrated with yourself,
- 00:30:40and you're trying to figure out
- 00:30:41how you can get back into that habit,
- 00:30:43well by all means,
- 00:30:44lean right back into that habit,
- 00:30:46but if you're having trouble doing that,
- 00:30:47also just use the procedural memory exercise
- 00:30:50in order to shift your nervous system
- 00:30:52towards a higher likelihood
- 00:30:54that you will return to that habit
- 00:30:57just the same way I described for trying
- 00:30:59to initiate a new habit.
- 00:31:00So now I'd like to discuss a second,
- 00:31:02and what I think is perhaps the most powerful tool
- 00:31:05for being able to acquire and stick to new habits.
- 00:31:10This tool is rooted in what we call neural circuits
- 00:31:12and I do think it is important to understand a little bit
- 00:31:15about how those neural circuits work.
- 00:31:17For those of you that are saying,
- 00:31:18"Just tell me what to do."
- 00:31:20I have to say, as I always say,
- 00:31:22understanding a little bit or a lot of underlying mechanism
- 00:31:25will help solidify these concepts for you
- 00:31:29and will help ensure that the tools
- 00:31:31that I offer are going to make sense
- 00:31:33and that they're going
- 00:31:34to make sense in differing contexts
- 00:31:35and for different types of habits
- 00:31:36that you're tying to learn.
- 00:31:38So, rather than just tell you what to do,
- 00:31:39I'm going to tell you how this particular tool works,
- 00:31:42and then in doing that,
- 00:31:43you should be able to apply it to any habit,
- 00:31:45under any conditions.
- 00:31:46The tool that I'm referring to
- 00:31:48is something called task-bracketing
- 00:31:51and the neural circuits associated with task-bracketing
- 00:31:54are basically the neural circuits
- 00:31:56that are going to allow you to learn any new type of habit
- 00:32:00or break any habit that you'd like to break.
- 00:32:02We have in our brain a set of neural circuits
- 00:32:05that fall under the umbrella term of the basal ganglia.
- 00:32:08The basal ganglia are involved in action execution,
- 00:32:12meaning doing certain things,
- 00:32:13and action suppression, not doing certain things.
- 00:32:18In the experimental realm,
- 00:32:20these are referred to as go, meaning do,
- 00:32:22or no go, don't do, certain things.
- 00:32:25And some of us fall more into the category
- 00:32:27of we find it very easy to do certain things,
- 00:32:29but harder to not do other things.
- 00:32:32Some people have a lot of no go type circuits
- 00:32:36that are very robust,
- 00:32:37and they have a lot of behavioral constraint,
- 00:32:39but they have a harder time getting into action.
- 00:32:42And some people have a perfect balance of both,
- 00:32:43but I've never met one of those people.
- 00:32:45So again, drawing from, more or less paraphrasing
- 00:32:49from this beautiful review that I described earlier
- 00:32:52in Annual Review of Psychology, excuse me,
- 00:32:56by Wood and Ruenger,
- 00:32:57task-bracketing involves a particular set of neural circuits
- 00:33:01within the basal ganglia,
- 00:33:03so I'm going to describe this here, again paraphrasing,
- 00:33:07a sensory-motor loop.
- 00:33:08Sensory means just input coming in about sight, sounds,
- 00:33:12taste, et cetera.
- 00:33:14And then the motor systems,
- 00:33:15the systems of the brain and body that generate action,
- 00:33:18taking that information and generating action.
- 00:33:20So it turns out that there's an area of our basal ganglia
- 00:33:24called the dorsolateral striatum,
- 00:33:26we can use the acronym DLS.
- 00:33:28Again, dorsolateral striatum.
- 00:33:31Dorso means up. Lateral means to the side.
- 00:33:33So dorsolateral.
- 00:33:34And striatum is a subdivision of the basal ganglia.
- 00:33:37And it's very important
- 00:33:39for the establishment of behaviors
- 00:33:42that are associated with a habit,
- 00:33:44but not necessarily the habit itself.
- 00:33:46And beautiful studies in both animals and humans
- 00:33:50that record the activity in the dorsolateral striatum
- 00:33:53find that the dorsolateral striatum is associated,
- 00:33:57meaning it becomes active at the beginning
- 00:33:59of a particular habit,
- 00:34:01and at the very end and after a particular habit.
- 00:34:05Hence the phrase task-bracketing.
- 00:34:07It brackets the habit.
- 00:34:09Now, other sets of neurons are going to be active
- 00:34:11during the actual execution of the habit,
- 00:34:13but what the literature on the dorsolateral striatum
- 00:34:17tells us is that we have particular circuits in our brain
- 00:34:21that are devoted to framing the events
- 00:34:24that happened just before
- 00:34:26and as we initiate a habit,
- 00:34:27and just after and as we terminate a habit.
- 00:34:30In other words, it acts as a sort of marker
- 00:34:33for the habit execution,
- 00:34:34but not the execution of the habit per se.
- 00:34:37This is very important
- 00:34:38because task-bracketing is what underlies whether
- 00:34:42or not a habit will be context dependent or not,
- 00:34:46whether or not it will be strong
- 00:34:48and likely to occur
- 00:34:49even if we didn't get good night's sleep the night before,
- 00:34:51even if we're feeling distracted,
- 00:34:53even if we're not feeling like doing something emotionally,
- 00:34:56or if we are, you know, completely overwhelmed
- 00:34:59by other events.
- 00:35:00If the neural circuits are task bracketing,
- 00:35:03are deeply embedded in us,
- 00:35:05meaning they are very robust around a particular habit,
- 00:35:08well then it's likely that we're going to go out
- 00:35:10for that zone II cardio no matter what,
- 00:35:12that we're going to brush our teeth no matter what.
- 00:35:13I'm fact, brushing our teeth is a pretty good example
- 00:35:16because, for most people,
- 00:35:17even if you got a terrible night's sleep,
- 00:35:19even If everything in your life is going wrong,
- 00:35:22chances are, unless you're very depressed,
- 00:35:25if you're going to leave to work,
- 00:35:26or even if you're not,
- 00:35:27that you're going to still carry out the behavior
- 00:35:30of brushing your teeth in the morning.
- 00:35:31I would hope so, actually.
- 00:35:33But you are probably less likely
- 00:35:35to perform particular habits
- 00:35:37that are not what you deem as necessary.
- 00:35:41But if you think about it,
- 00:35:42brushing your teeth, exercise, eating particular foods,
- 00:35:45maybe engaging socially in particular ways,
- 00:35:49you are the one that places any kind of value assessment
- 00:35:51on which ones are essential,
- 00:35:52and which ones are negotiable.
- 00:35:54So task-bracketing sets a neural imprint,
- 00:35:58a kind of a finger print in your brain,
- 00:36:00of this thing has to happen at this particular time of day
- 00:36:03so much so that it's reflexive.
- 00:36:05And as we'll talk about in a moment,
- 00:36:07there's a way that you can build up task-bracketing
- 00:36:10so that regardless of what it is you're trying to learn,
- 00:36:13there's a much higher probability
- 00:36:15that you're going to do that thing.
- 00:36:17And when I say learn,
- 00:36:18meaning let's say you're trying to acquire a habit
- 00:36:20that for you is really challenging.
- 00:36:21Maybe it's that you're going to write for an hour a day
- 00:36:24on a book project that you've been thinking about
- 00:36:26or you're going to work on mathematics,
- 00:36:28or you're going to do any sort of thing
- 00:36:29that for you there's a lot of limbic friction.
- 00:36:32While it is important to think about the sequence of events
- 00:36:35that would be required in order to engage in that behavior,
- 00:36:38that procedural memory visualization exercise
- 00:36:41we talked about before, that will help,
- 00:36:42there's a way also that you can orient your nervous system
- 00:36:46towards this task-bracketing process,
- 00:36:49so that your nervous system is shifted
- 00:36:52or oriented towards the execution of a given habit.
- 00:36:55So this is sort of like warming up your body to exercise.
- 00:36:59When the dorsolateral striatum is engaged,
- 00:37:01your body and you brain are primed to execute a habit
- 00:37:04and that you get to consciously insert
- 00:37:06which habit you want to perform.
- 00:37:08So in order to leverage the neural mechanisms
- 00:37:10of task-bracketing,
- 00:37:11in order to increase the likelihood
- 00:37:13that you're going to perform a particular habit,
- 00:37:16I have to break it to you
- 00:37:18that one thing that you've probably heard over and over
- 00:37:21about habit formation
- 00:37:23is not true.
- 00:37:24And what I'm referring to is this idea
- 00:37:27that if you're very specific about exactly when you're going
- 00:37:30to perform a particular habit,
- 00:37:32that you're more likely to perform that habit.
- 00:37:35And while that is true in the short term,
- 00:37:38it is not true in the long term.
- 00:37:40And the reason for that is that our nervous system tends
- 00:37:44to generate particular kinds of behavior
- 00:37:46based not on time, but on our state.
- 00:37:50Meaning what level of activation is taking place
- 00:37:53in our brain and body.
- 00:37:54How much focus we happen to have,
- 00:37:56how fatigued we are, how energized we are.
- 00:37:59So while schedules are important,
- 00:38:01it's not the particular time of day per se
- 00:38:05that's going to allow you to get into a habit,
- 00:38:08and form that habit, and consolidate that habit.
- 00:38:10Rather, it's the state that your brain
- 00:38:13and body are in that's important to anchor yourself to.
- 00:38:16So now I'm going to offer you a tool.
- 00:38:18It's actually an entire program
- 00:38:19by which you can insert particular habits and activities
- 00:38:23at particular phases of the day,
- 00:38:25not times of day, but phases of the day,
- 00:38:27because it turns out that particular phases of the day
- 00:38:30are associated with particular biological underpinnings,
- 00:38:33chemicals and neural circuits and so forth,
- 00:38:36and in doing so it will make it far more likely
- 00:38:39that you will be able to regularly engage in these habits
- 00:38:41and activities over a long period of time.
- 00:38:44And whether or not that will move you from somebody
- 00:38:46who ordinarily would take 200 days to form a habit
- 00:38:49to one of those 18 days to habit people
- 00:38:52in that earlier study I mentioned, I don't know.
- 00:38:54But I am certain that will have a significant shift
- 00:38:57on allowing you to engage in particular habits more easily
- 00:39:01and to consolidate those habits more quickly.
- 00:39:03So the program I am about to describe,
- 00:39:05I formulated for you based on the neuroscience literature,
- 00:39:09and the psychology literature of learning,
- 00:39:10and this concepts of task-bracketing.
- 00:39:13It involves the 24 hour days into what I call three phases.
- 00:39:17The first is phase one,
- 00:39:19which is 0 to 8 hours after waking up, approximately.
- 00:39:24Okay, you can put a plus or minus 30 minutes on this
- 00:39:26for yourself.
- 00:39:28The second phase is the 9 to 14, maybe 15 hours
- 00:39:32after you wake up.
- 00:39:34And the third phase is 16 to 24 hours after waking up.
- 00:39:38So we've taken the 24 hour cycle,
- 00:39:39we've carved it up into three phases,
- 00:39:41phase one, phase two, and phase three.
- 00:39:43Now, everything I'm describing,
- 00:39:45or at least the way I'm going to describe it,
- 00:39:47is based on what I would call a typical schedule,
- 00:39:50diurnal schedule.
- 00:39:51You've heard of nocturnal?
- 00:39:52Well, we are diurnal.
- 00:39:54Most of us are asleep at night and awake during the day.
- 00:39:56I do realize that a number of people have shift work
- 00:40:00or they have newborns or other reasons
- 00:40:02why they have to be up in the middle of the night
- 00:40:03and sleeping during the day.
- 00:40:05If that's the case,
- 00:40:06please listen to the episode we did on jet-lag
- 00:40:09and shift work because that has a lot of tools
- 00:40:11specifically for that population.
- 00:40:13But most people go to sleep somewhere around 10:00 PM,
- 00:40:17plus or minus two hours,
- 00:40:18and wake up some time around 7:00 AM,
- 00:40:21plus or minus two hours.
- 00:40:23So today, I'm going to use the to bed at 10:00 PM
- 00:40:26and a wake up time of 7:00 AM as the framework for this,
- 00:40:30but you could adopt it easily to your particular schedule.
- 00:40:33Phase one, which again, is 0 to 8 hours after waking,
- 00:40:37has a particular neurochemical signature.
- 00:40:40Regardless of what you do,
- 00:40:42the neuromodulators norepinephrine
- 00:40:45as well as epinephrine,
- 00:40:46so that's noradrenaline and adrenaline,
- 00:40:48as well as the neuromodulator dopamine
- 00:40:51tend to be elevated during that first 0 to 8 hours
- 00:40:54after waking.
- 00:40:55There are a number of reasons for this related to the fact
- 00:40:59that also cortisol is higher in our brain and bloodstream,
- 00:41:01it's a healthy level of cortisol upon waking,
- 00:41:03body temperature is increased, et cetera.
- 00:41:05And there's several things
- 00:41:07that perhaps we should all be doing,
- 00:41:08I've talked about many of these on the podcast before,
- 00:41:10that in addition to those chemicals,
- 00:41:13further support an alert and focused state.
- 00:41:17And I'll just list those off.
- 00:41:18I've done many podcasts on each of these
- 00:41:20if you'd like to access those podcasts you can find them
- 00:41:23in the menu of podcasts on YouTube,
- 00:41:25Apple, Spotify, et cetera.
- 00:41:27They involve, for instance,
- 00:41:28viewing sunlight or bright artificial light
- 00:41:32if you can't access sunlight,
- 00:41:33within the first 30 minutes of waking.
- 00:41:35Physical exercise of some kind
- 00:41:37in this phase of the day, 0 to 8 hours of the day,
- 00:41:41ideally pretty early in that phase,
- 00:41:43but, you know,
- 00:41:44if it has to be at the 7 to 8 hour transition point
- 00:41:47that's fine too.
- 00:41:48Cold exposure in the form of cold showers or ice baths
- 00:41:51or outside with minimal clothing,
- 00:41:54appropriate yet minimal clothing.
- 00:41:57Caffeine ingestion.
- 00:41:59Fasting, for instance, not ingesting calories,
- 00:42:04also will lend itself to increased norepinephrine
- 00:42:06and dopamine, et cetera.
- 00:42:08If you are going to consume foods,
- 00:42:10foods that are rich in things like tyrosine,
- 00:42:12which is a precursor for dopamine.
- 00:42:14You can look up foods that are high in tyrosine.
- 00:42:17And for those of you that are interested in supplementation
- 00:42:19and like to use those routes,
- 00:42:21things like alpha GPC or phenylethylamine, think,
- 00:42:24or L-tyrosine,
- 00:42:25if that's in keeping with what you're able to do.
- 00:42:28Of course, consult your doctor
- 00:42:30if you're going to rely on supplementation.
- 00:42:32What's this all about?
- 00:42:33Well, the already elevated norepinephrine
- 00:42:35and dopamine, the sunlight, exercise,
- 00:42:38cold exposure, caffeine, tyrosine, et cetera,
- 00:42:41all of those place the brain and body into a state
- 00:42:44in which you are better able,
- 00:42:48or I would say, more easily able,
- 00:42:50to engage in activities
- 00:42:52that have a high degree limbic friction
- 00:42:55and where you need to override that limbic friction.
- 00:42:58Right? We've heard that the morning is kind of sacred,
- 00:43:00conquer the hardest things first thing in the morning,
- 00:43:02and that's been discussed in the pop psychology literature
- 00:43:05and in the habit formation literature
- 00:43:08merely from the perspective of
- 00:43:10get it out of the way so you can feel good
- 00:43:11about having done it.
- 00:43:13But what I'm referring to is quite different.
- 00:43:15What I'm referring to is a particular phase of day
- 00:43:17that after rising, after waking up, that is,
- 00:43:20for 0 to 8 hours, right, in that first phase,
- 00:43:24your whole system is action and focus oriented.
- 00:43:27And we know that when you're action and focus oriented
- 00:43:30and because of the neurochemicals
- 00:43:32that are naturally released in your brain and body
- 00:43:35that you will be more likely to overcome any limbic friction
- 00:43:39that stands in the way of performing particular habits.
- 00:43:42So, as you list out or think about the various habits
- 00:43:46that you'd like to adopt in your life, take the habits
- 00:43:50for which you know there's the highest degree
- 00:43:52of limbic friction,
- 00:43:53they are the hardest for you to engage in,
- 00:43:55they require the most activation energy,
- 00:43:57and put those in this 0 to 8 hours after waking.
- 00:44:01This will greatly facilitate your performance
- 00:44:05of those new habits.
- 00:44:06I'm certain of that.
- 00:44:07And in addition to that,
- 00:44:09by doing them in this particular phase of the day,
- 00:44:12not necessarily the same time,
- 00:44:14I mean, if you want to be very habitual,
- 00:44:15and you want to do, you know, the exercise,
- 00:44:17or the sunlight viewing always at the same time,
- 00:44:19or you want to do,
- 00:44:20you want to drink your caffeine
- 00:44:22always at the exact same time, that's fine,
- 00:44:23but by placing them in this broader window
- 00:44:26of 0 to 8 hours after waking,
- 00:44:28what you're doing is you're creating task-bracketing.
- 00:44:32You're making it such that your nervous system
- 00:44:34will predict when you are going to lean in
- 00:44:37against limbic friction
- 00:44:38in order to perform particular types of habits.
- 00:44:41And this is very different than saying,
- 00:44:43"I'm always going to run" or,
- 00:44:44"I'm always going to study from 10 to 12 AM every morning."
- 00:44:49That's great, and if you can do that, terrific.
- 00:44:51But the literature indicates that people who do that,
- 00:44:53who are very rigid about when they do things tend,
- 00:44:55because of context dependence,
- 00:44:57to not necessarily stick to those habits over time.
- 00:45:00Some people do, but many, many people don't.
- 00:45:04So think about the hardest habits to form
- 00:45:06and the habits that you most want to form
- 00:45:08that are hardest for you to adopt and to maintain
- 00:45:11and I highly suggest placing those somewhere
- 00:45:14within this phase one of 0 to 8 hours after waking.
- 00:45:18Now of course, some of the things I listed out,
- 00:45:20sunlight viewing, exercise, cold exposure,
- 00:45:23caffeine, fasting,
- 00:45:24those might be the actual habits themselves,
- 00:45:26but here I realize, or rather I want to acknowledge
- 00:45:30that many people, including myself,
- 00:45:32are doing some or all of these things already
- 00:45:34and many people, including myself,
- 00:45:36are trying to adopt new habits
- 00:45:38that don't fall into the category
- 00:45:40of just trying to set your overall state.
- 00:45:42Again, norepinephrine, dopamine,
- 00:45:44and all these neural systems
- 00:45:46will be greatly elevated in this 0 to 8 hours after waking.
- 00:45:49However, the other things I mentioned,
- 00:45:51sunlight exposure, exercise, cold exposure,
- 00:45:53caffeine, fasting, if that's for you,
- 00:45:56or if you're eating during that phase,
- 00:45:58eating things that contain some
- 00:46:00or elevated levels of tyrosine,
- 00:46:01maybe supplementing alpha GPC or L-tyrosine, et cetera.
- 00:46:05All of those things further facilitate the neurochemistry
- 00:46:09and therefore the state of mind
- 00:46:11that's going to be ideal for leaning into limbic friction
- 00:46:14and overriding that limbic friction
- 00:46:16so that you can regularly perform that habit.
- 00:46:18What we're really talking about here
- 00:46:19is leveraging neural systems
- 00:46:21in order to help you make it more likely
- 00:46:24that you're going to be able to engage
- 00:46:25and maintain a particular habit.
- 00:46:27So what I'm referring to as phase one of each day is useful
- 00:46:31for acquiring certain habits,
- 00:46:33but there are other phases of the day,
- 00:46:35and those turn out to be useful
- 00:46:36for acquiring other types of habits.
- 00:46:38Phase two, as I mentioned, is about,
- 00:46:41again these aren't specifics,
- 00:46:43but about 9 to 14 or 15 hours after waking.
- 00:46:47During this phase of the day,
- 00:46:49because of the circadian shifts in our biology,
- 00:46:53the amount of dopamine and norepinephrine
- 00:46:55that's circulating in our brain
- 00:46:56and bloodstream tends to start to come down
- 00:46:59and levels of cortisol tend to start to come down.
- 00:47:03That's the ideal circumstance.
- 00:47:05In fact,
- 00:47:06you don't really want elevated cortisol late in the day.
- 00:47:08That's actually a signature of depression
- 00:47:09and anxiety and a number of other unfortunate things.
- 00:47:13So, 9 to 14 hours after waking dopamine
- 00:47:18and norepinephrine and cortisol are starting to taper down,
- 00:47:20just naturally.
- 00:47:21And a different neuromodulator, serotonin,
- 00:47:25is starting to rise.
- 00:47:26Serotonin is definitely going to be highest
- 00:47:29in this second half of the day
- 00:47:31and tends to lend itself to a more relaxed state of being.
- 00:47:36Now of course,
- 00:47:37I do realize that some people are less of morning people
- 00:47:40and do find that they really come alive
- 00:47:41and awake in the afternoon,
- 00:47:42but most people don't fall into that category.
- 00:47:45Most people feel more alert early in the day,
- 00:47:47even anxious early in the day,
- 00:47:49and then, as the afternoon progresses,
- 00:47:50they tend to be a bit more sleepy, a bit more relaxed,
- 00:47:53a bit more calm.
- 00:47:55There's certain things that we all can
- 00:47:57and should do during this phase two of each day
- 00:48:00that lend themselves to a state of mind
- 00:48:03and a state of body that is going to be beneficial
- 00:48:07for the generation and consolidation
- 00:48:10of certain types of habits.
- 00:48:11What are those things?
- 00:48:12First of all, as the day goes on,
- 00:48:14you should try if you can
- 00:48:16to start tapering the amount of light that you're viewing.
- 00:48:19Now, this doesn't mean putting yourself
- 00:48:20into dim light at 3 o'clock 4 o'clock in the afternoon.
- 00:48:25That's certainly not the case.
- 00:48:26Simply that you want to start tapering off the amount
- 00:48:29of really bright light that you're getting,
- 00:48:30unless it's sunlight.
- 00:48:31Talked about this before on the podcast,
- 00:48:34but if you haven't heard,
- 00:48:35viewing the sun as it's at what we call low solar angle
- 00:48:39so it's headed toward the horizon,
- 00:48:41you don't necessarily have to watch the sunset,
- 00:48:42although that can be nice.
- 00:48:44But getting some sun light in your eyes
- 00:48:45in the second half of the day can also be beneficial
- 00:48:47for a number of brain systems and psychological systems
- 00:48:50so you can get some some light in your eyes,
- 00:48:52you can certainly have artificial lights on,
- 00:48:55but you want to start dimming those lights
- 00:48:58and bringing them actually physically lower in the room
- 00:48:59because the neurons in your eye
- 00:49:01that view the upper visual field
- 00:49:04they actually trigger this alertness mechanism
- 00:49:06in the brain and body.
- 00:49:07And in the second half of the day,
- 00:49:09even if you're humming around and doing work at 3
- 00:49:11or 4 or 5 or even 7 PM,
- 00:49:13you are probably headed toward sleep a few hours later,
- 00:49:17so things like limiting the total amount of light
- 00:49:20if you can,
- 00:49:21things like NSDR, non-sleep deep rest,
- 00:49:24another thing that I've talked about on this podcast.
- 00:49:26If you haven't heard about this before,
- 00:49:27non-sleep deep rest is an umbrella term
- 00:49:29for things like meditation, for Yoga Nidra,
- 00:49:32a very powerful science supported tool
- 00:49:35for teaching you how to relax,
- 00:49:37things like self-hypnosis
- 00:49:39which might sound a little kooky to some of you,
- 00:49:40but actually is a clinically based tool
- 00:49:42for which there's a lot of scientific literature.
- 00:49:44If you're interested in that
- 00:49:45there's a great free resource called Reverie,
- 00:49:47R E V E R I E .com.
- 00:49:49There's a app for both Apple and Android.
- 00:49:53This is an app that was developed by colleagues of mine
- 00:49:55and researchers at Stanford School of Medicine.
- 00:49:57You can do these short 15 self hypnosis script,
- 00:50:00as they're called.
- 00:50:01They can teach you how to relax yourself,
- 00:50:03there's even one for focus, for sleep, for chronic pain,
- 00:50:06Again, all very strongly supported
- 00:50:09by quality peer-reviewed literature.
- 00:50:11So things like Reverie, meditation,
- 00:50:13things like heat and sauna, hot baths, hot showers.
- 00:50:17Those are terrific things to do in the second half
- 00:50:20of the day,
- 00:50:21they tend to support this serotonergic,
- 00:50:24or high serotonin like state
- 00:50:25and lend themselves to more calm and relaxation.
- 00:50:29For those that are interested in supplementation,
- 00:50:31there's always ashwagandha,
- 00:50:33which reduces cortisol,
- 00:50:35again peaks in cortisol late in the afternoon
- 00:50:38and evening are associated with depression,
- 00:50:39anxiety, and so forth.
- 00:50:40Ashwagandha has a pretty potent cortisol inhibiting tool.
- 00:50:46I personally don't use it very often
- 00:50:48and I caution people about using it
- 00:50:50for longer than two-week periods of time
- 00:50:52without taking some breaks.
- 00:50:53You can look up more about ashwagandha on examine.com.
- 00:50:56There's a lot of traffic literature
- 00:50:58with links to studies there.
- 00:50:59But basically this phase two of the day
- 00:51:01is one in which you're alert, you are present
- 00:51:04you are working, you are engaging socially,
- 00:51:06you're cooking dinner probably,
- 00:51:07paying attention to a number of things,
- 00:51:09but you should really be trying
- 00:51:10to taper off your stress level.
- 00:51:11So how do you leverage phase two of the day
- 00:51:13for habit formation?
- 00:51:15Well, given what we know
- 00:51:16about the neurochemistry of learning and memory,
- 00:51:18given what we know about task formation
- 00:51:20and its reliance on certain forms of neuroplasticity,
- 00:51:23the second half of the day is a terrific time
- 00:51:25to take on habits and things that you're already doing
- 00:51:30that require very little override of limbic friction.
- 00:51:34So these might be things that categorize in common terms
- 00:51:38as kind of mellower activities.
- 00:51:40It might be journaling,
- 00:51:41it might be that you already are performing music
- 00:51:46or I should say, practicing music regularly,
- 00:51:48but there's a particular type of music
- 00:51:50that is hard for you
- 00:51:51or that you're working on a particular piece of music,
- 00:51:53or you're trying to learn a language.
- 00:51:54Something that's a little bit challenging,
- 00:51:56but doesn't require a ton of energy
- 00:51:58in order to override that limbic friction.
- 00:52:01The second half of the day is a much better time to do that.
- 00:52:03Less resistance, as we might say.
- 00:52:05But of course, resistance has a neural substrate
- 00:52:08and the reason for doing those things
- 00:52:10in the second part of the day, the so-called phase two,
- 00:52:13as I've called it, part of the day is
- 00:52:15because your ability
- 00:52:16to override resistance is really diminished
- 00:52:19in this second phase of the day.
- 00:52:20Some of you might say,
- 00:52:22"Whoa wait,"
- 00:52:23"I like to exercise in the second half of the day."
- 00:52:25"That's actually when I have the most energy."
- 00:52:26"That's when I feel warmer"
- 00:52:28"I'm not a morning exerciser."
- 00:52:29That's absolutely fine,
- 00:52:31but what I'm referring to is the acquisition
- 00:52:33of new behaviors
- 00:52:34and placing those consistently at the second half of the day
- 00:52:38in order to engage these task-bracketing mechanisms
- 00:52:41that I talked about before.
- 00:52:42One of the hallmark features
- 00:52:44of those basal ganglia circuits for go
- 00:52:46and no-go is that they are associated
- 00:52:49with certain neurochemicals, dopamine and serotonin,
- 00:52:52acetylcholine, and other neurochemicals.
- 00:52:54And by placing particular habits
- 00:52:56at particular phases of the day,
- 00:52:58those neurochemical states start to be associated
- 00:53:01with the leaning in and the process of beginning,
- 00:53:04and as I mentioned, ending those particular habits.
- 00:53:06And in doing so they shift the whole nervous system
- 00:53:09toward being able to predict
- 00:53:10that certain things are going to happen
- 00:53:12at particular times a day,
- 00:53:14that you're going to be leaning very hard
- 00:53:16against limbic friction early in the day in phase one,
- 00:53:19and that you're going to be doing things
- 00:53:20that require less conscious override of limbic friction
- 00:53:23in phase two.
- 00:53:24And in doing so, set up task-bracketing system
- 00:53:27so that the individual habits that you're learning
- 00:53:30or that you're trying to learn
- 00:53:32have a much greater probability of being executed
- 00:53:35and consolidated,
- 00:53:36meaning that pretty soon that they
- 00:53:38will just naturally become reflexive.
- 00:53:40And as with phase one, many of the things that I mentioned
- 00:53:44that support this, what I'm calling a serotonergic state
- 00:53:47or more relaxed state in phase two,
- 00:53:49things like seeing sunlight in the afternoon,
- 00:53:52but not a lot of bright light from artificial sources,
- 00:53:56things like NSDR,
- 00:53:58things like heat and sauna,
- 00:54:00hot baths et cetera, ashwagandha,
- 00:54:02again all of those things themselves could be habits
- 00:54:05that you're trying to adopt, right?
- 00:54:06In that case, do those if you'd like to explore them.
- 00:54:10They are quite beneficial for a number of reasons,
- 00:54:13not just related to execution of particular habits
- 00:54:15in phase two of the day,
- 00:54:16but also for improving quality of sleep
- 00:54:19and consolidating any learning
- 00:54:20that you might have triggered earlier in the day.
- 00:54:22I've talked about that before,
- 00:54:23but just briefly, as a relevant aside,
- 00:54:26neuroplasticity involves triggering the neural plasticity,
- 00:54:30setting it in motion,
- 00:54:31but the actual rewiring of the brain
- 00:54:33and the reconfiguration of neurons
- 00:54:35that will allow that learning to be reflexive,
- 00:54:37that actually occurs during states of deep rest,
- 00:54:39like an NSDR and like deep sleep.
- 00:54:42And I should just mention,
- 00:54:43for those of you that can only exercise
- 00:54:46or prefer to exercise in phase two of the day, right,
- 00:54:509 to 14 hours or 15 hours after waking,
- 00:54:52that's absolutely fine.
- 00:54:54However, because of the importance of sleep
- 00:54:57and in particular deep sleep throughout the night
- 00:55:00for not just neuroplasticity,
- 00:55:01but recovery of muscle and other tissues
- 00:55:04that are taxed during physical exercise,
- 00:55:07if you do train in phase two,
- 00:55:10I highly recommend, highly recommend
- 00:55:12that you start doing some NSDR activity after you train,
- 00:55:16within an hour or two,
- 00:55:17because that will allow you to taper down and relax
- 00:55:19so that you can get into the next phase we're going
- 00:55:21to talk about, which is phase three.
- 00:55:23Phase three of the 24-hour schedule runs
- 00:55:27from about 16 to 24 hours after waking.
- 00:55:31During that period of time,
- 00:55:32there are few things
- 00:55:34that are going to support being in a state of mind,
- 00:55:36state of body that are going to allow neuroplasticity
- 00:55:40to occur, that are going to allow the rewiring
- 00:55:43that you've triggered during the waking part of the day
- 00:55:45to actually take place.
- 00:55:47Those things are very low to no light,
- 00:55:50meaning keeping your environment very dark
- 00:55:53or very, very dim.
- 00:55:54I don't think it's necessary to sleep in a room
- 00:55:57that's complete blackness.
- 00:55:59I think that's a little bit overkill,
- 00:56:01but for most people keeping the room dark
- 00:56:03and keeping the room temperature low is very beneficial
- 00:56:07for getting and staying in deep sleep.
- 00:56:10The body has to drop by about 1 to 3 degrees
- 00:56:14in order to get into sleep and stay asleep,
- 00:56:16so low light, low temperature environment,
- 00:56:19you can always pile on blankets of course
- 00:56:21if you don't want to be cold at night,
- 00:56:23you want to be warm enough,
- 00:56:24but you want your environment to be cold.
- 00:56:26Typically people aren't eating in the middle of the night,
- 00:56:29although one thing that can be useful is to make sure
- 00:56:32that you're at least well-fed enough
- 00:56:34when you head into this third phase of every 24-hour day
- 00:56:38that you're not awake because you're hungry.
- 00:56:40A lot of people recommend putting a gap
- 00:56:42between your final bite of food
- 00:56:44and when you got to sleep at night.
- 00:56:45Some people say that gap should be 4 hours,
- 00:56:47other people say 2 hours,
- 00:56:49if you're me, I generally have something, I don't know,
- 00:56:51within 2 hours or 90 minutes of going to sleep,
- 00:56:54but it's not a big meal, but that's just me,
- 00:56:55and I fall asleep and stay asleep fine with that.
- 00:56:57You have to experiment for yourself.
- 00:56:59I've talked about supplements
- 00:57:01that can support sleep in previous episode of the podcast,
- 00:57:04things like magnesium threonate,
- 00:57:05or magnesium bisglycinate,
- 00:57:07things like theonine, apigenin.
- 00:57:09If you'd like to read more about those,
- 00:57:11we actually have a newsletter
- 00:57:12that I'll just quickly refer you to
- 00:57:14this is the Huberman Lab Neural Network Newsletter,
- 00:57:17you can sign up for it by going to hubermanlab.com,
- 00:57:20it's very easy to find,
- 00:57:21but even if you don't sign up,
- 00:57:23you can go to the toolkit for sleep that's listed there
- 00:57:26and that tool kit is not just supplements,
- 00:57:28that tool kit is a number of different things,
- 00:57:29both behavioral and supplement-based
- 00:57:32and nutrition-based, et cetera,
- 00:57:34that can allow you to get in to sleep
- 00:57:37and to stay asleep more readily.
- 00:57:38It's totally zero cost,
- 00:57:39you can find that again at hubermanlab.com.
- 00:57:41So things like low light, low temperature,
- 00:57:43the supplements I mentioned,
- 00:57:44adjusting your eating schedule appropriately,
- 00:57:47obviously not drinking caffeine in the middle of the night
- 00:57:50or too close to bed,
- 00:57:51that's going to be critical.
- 00:57:51In fact, ideally you wouldn't ingest any caffeine
- 00:57:54in phase two of the day,
- 00:57:56so that you could get into this deeper state of rest
- 00:57:59in which habit formation and neural plasticity can occur.
- 00:58:04What if you wake up?
- 00:58:05The way I've cast phase three is
- 00:58:07that you're supposed to be in this deep slumber,
- 00:58:09you're not supposed to wake up at all,
- 00:58:11you're supposed to be in low light
- 00:58:12and your brain is rewiring
- 00:58:13and those habits are getting consolidated, et cetera.
- 00:58:16Well, if you're like me,
- 00:58:17you probably get up once in the middle of the night.
- 00:58:19Maybe go use the restroom.
- 00:58:20Perfectly normal, perfectly normal,
- 00:58:22but a lot of people have trouble falling back asleep.
- 00:58:24Very important if you get up in the middle of the night
- 00:58:26to use a minimum of light
- 00:58:28in order to navigate your surroundings,
- 00:58:29just as much as you need in order to safely do so,
- 00:58:32because light inhibits hormone melatonin,
- 00:58:35can make it very hard to fall back to sleep
- 00:58:37if you inhibit melatonin.
- 00:58:38The effects of light inhibiting melatonin
- 00:58:40are actually very potent.
- 00:58:41It happens very, very quickly,
- 00:58:43so try and keep the lights low.
- 00:58:44And you have trouble falling back asleep,
- 00:58:47that's when you might also want to use something
- 00:58:49like a Reverie app,
- 00:58:50they have a sleep script there
- 00:58:52that can hopefully help you get back to sleep.
- 00:58:54Or something like NSDR,
- 00:58:55you can find NSDR scripts on YouTube.
- 00:58:57These are zero cost.
- 00:58:59You can look up one
- 00:59:00that I particularly like is NSDR Madefor.
- 00:59:02It's a company I'm associated with,
- 00:59:04but the NSDR is completely zero cost,
- 00:59:06and there are other things,
- 00:59:07like Yoga Nidra, which you can find scripts for elsewhere.
- 00:59:10Again, all of these habits or these behaviors,
- 00:59:13these do's and don'ts around phase three,
- 00:59:14themselves might be habits
- 00:59:17that you're trying to create for yourself.
- 00:59:19But again, phase three is really about making sure
- 00:59:21that whatever limbic friction you've been able
- 00:59:24to override in phase one
- 00:59:25and trigger some new habit, right?
- 00:59:27Forcing yourself to write
- 00:59:29or forcing yourself to study
- 00:59:31or forcing yourself to exercise
- 00:59:32during that high limbic friction state.
- 00:59:34And then whatever things you've been doing in phase two,
- 00:59:37which are habits
- 00:59:38that hopefully have moved a little bit further
- 00:59:39along the continuum of newly-formed
- 00:59:42versus all the way to reflexive,
- 00:59:43or things that take less limbic friction in in order to do.
- 00:59:46Phase three is when all of that gets really locked
- 00:59:49into the nervous system
- 00:59:50through those Hebbian mechanisms,
- 00:59:52like NMDA receptors, et cetera,
- 00:59:54that I talked about before.
- 00:59:55Again, neuroplasticity is the basis of habit formation
- 00:59:58and neuroplasticity and the rewiring of neural circuits
- 01:00:01happens in these states of deep sleep.
- 01:00:02So if you're not obeying this phase three,
- 01:00:06if you're not giving phase three the material it needs,
- 01:00:10and you're and you're not avoiding the certain things,
- 01:00:12like caffeine and bright light and stress during phase 3,
- 01:00:16you're simply not going to be able to build those habits
- 01:00:18that you've been working so hard to trigger in phase one
- 01:00:21and phase two of the day.
- 01:00:24Again, these are things
- 01:00:25that I've talked about previous episodes of the podcast
- 01:00:28and elsewhere, but really this is about habit formation.
- 01:00:31And the whole reason
- 01:00:33for placing particular types of behaviors
- 01:00:35at particular phases of the day is to set a framework
- 01:00:39for that task-bracketing.
- 01:00:41Again, task-bracketing
- 01:00:43and the circuits of the basal ganglia
- 01:00:45indicate that it's not just the neural circuits
- 01:00:48that are engaged by the task itself,
- 01:00:51but the neural circuits that are engaged before
- 01:00:54and after that task execution.
- 01:00:57That's what gets consolidated.
- 01:00:59So when you do things that particular phases of the day,
- 01:01:02under particular conditions of neurochemistry,
- 01:01:05what you're doing is
- 01:01:06you're giving the brain a very predictable set of sequences
- 01:01:09that during sleep it can start to put into your hard drive,
- 01:01:13if you will.
- 01:01:14It can really program it into your nervous system,
- 01:01:16so that within a short period of time,
- 01:01:18hopefully within 18 or maybe even 6 days
- 01:01:22or who knows? Maybe even fewer days,
- 01:01:24you'll find that executing those behaviors is very,
- 01:01:27very straightforward for you
- 01:01:28and that you won't have to feel so much limbic friction
- 01:01:32or override so much limbic friction.
- 01:01:34Some of you are probably asking, okay,
- 01:01:36if I perform a particular habit during phase one,
- 01:01:40and then I do other habits during phase two,
- 01:01:42and I eventually get to the point
- 01:01:44where I'm engaging in those habits
- 01:01:46in a pretty effortless way,
- 01:01:48do I keep them in the same phase of the day?
- 01:01:51And the good news is, the literature says it doesn't matter.
- 01:01:54And in fact,
- 01:01:55moving that particular habit around somewhat randomly
- 01:01:58can actually be beneficial to you
- 01:02:00because actually moving it from one time a day
- 01:02:02to the other is that context independence
- 01:02:05that we really are seeking.
- 01:02:07By being able to do the same thing that we want to do
- 01:02:11regardless of time of day or circumstances
- 01:02:13that's how we know
- 01:02:14that we've achieved a real habit formation,
- 01:02:17that's how we know that the habit has been moved
- 01:02:19into certain components of our neural circuity
- 01:02:21that just allow us to do it
- 01:02:23what seems like reflexively.
- 01:02:24Although earlier I pointed out
- 01:02:25that these aren't reflexes in the traditional sense.
- 01:02:28The reason for that is that this brain area,
- 01:02:32the hippocampus, that many of you know is associated
- 01:02:34with learning and memory,
- 01:02:35is not actually where memories are stored.
- 01:02:38The hippocampus is where memories are formed,
- 01:02:40it's where procedures, like we talked about before,
- 01:02:43procedural memory of how you're going
- 01:02:44to execute a particular sequence,
- 01:02:46where that's maintained.
- 01:02:47So like if we use the recipe model,
- 01:02:49that's where the recipe is maintained
- 01:02:51until you know how to cook that dish
- 01:02:53and then the procedural memory literally migrates off
- 01:02:57into a different set of neural circuits,
- 01:03:00which are the neural circuits of the neocortex
- 01:03:02where we have maps of sensory experience,
- 01:03:05maps of all kinds experiences,
- 01:03:08including motor maps of how to execute things.
- 01:03:10So we use one part of the brain to learn something,
- 01:03:13but then that information,
- 01:03:14in the form of the electrical activity of neurons,
- 01:03:16is passed off to a different brain area.
- 01:03:20Now, the neurons themselves don't move
- 01:03:21from the hippocampus to the cortex,
- 01:03:23that doesn't happen.
- 01:03:24What happens is the signals,
- 01:03:26the sequence of electrical firing,
- 01:03:28much like a script for a movie
- 01:03:31or the notes on a sheet of paper
- 01:03:33for a particular musical piece
- 01:03:36is transferred off to a different brain area.
- 01:03:38So, that whole process
- 01:03:40of really leaning into something that's hard,
- 01:03:42and then it becoming easier,
- 01:03:44and then eventually that things becoming more
- 01:03:45or less reflexive involves a migration
- 01:03:48of the information in the brain.
- 01:03:49And once it's migrated out
- 01:03:51to a different location in the brain,
- 01:03:53at that point it's achieved context-independence.
- 01:03:57It doesn't have to be bracketed by, you know,
- 01:04:00your caffeine and your lunch.
- 01:04:02It doesn't have to occur immediately
- 01:04:05after your afternoon NSDR,
- 01:04:06but before your four O'clock meeting on Zoom,
- 01:04:09or something of that sort.
- 01:04:11So all this is to say
- 01:04:13that once something has become reflexive,
- 01:04:15you should play with it a little bit about time of day.
- 01:04:18If you want to keep it in the same phase of day, great.
- 01:04:20But if you one day decide
- 01:04:22you're going to exercise in the afternoon,
- 01:04:24the next day you decide
- 01:04:25you're going to exercise in the morning,
- 01:04:26and that's the habit that you're concerned with,
- 01:04:29that's terrific.
- 01:04:30If you're able to do that, that means
- 01:04:31that it's truly achieved context-independence.
- 01:04:32It means that you have officially formed that habit.
- 01:04:35And as I mentioned earlier,
- 01:04:36much earlier at the beginning of the episode,
- 01:04:39the strength of a habit is dictated by
- 01:04:41how much limbic friction, that was one,
- 01:04:45and how much context dependence there is.
- 01:04:48So when it doesn't take much activation energy
- 01:04:51to get into the execution of that habit
- 01:04:53and you can do it in any context, well,
- 01:04:55then you have formed a habit.
- 01:04:57We really can't have a discussion about learning anything,
- 01:04:59habits or otherwise,
- 01:05:01unless we talk about reward prediction error.
- 01:05:04Reward prediction error is associated
- 01:05:07with the molecule dopamine,
- 01:05:09although I should say there are other neurochemicals
- 01:05:11in our brain and body
- 01:05:12that are also related to reward prediction error.
- 01:05:15But reward prediction error is a very good system,
- 01:05:20or I should say, a lens through which to think about,
- 01:05:22whether or not we should reward ourselves
- 01:05:25for performing a given habit.
- 01:05:27And this is a much larger discussion
- 01:05:29that actually relates to things like parenting
- 01:05:31and self-regulation.
- 01:05:32You know, should we reward kids just for effort?
- 01:05:35Should we reward ourselves just for effort?
- 01:05:37What should we reward?
- 01:05:38How much should we reward ourselves?
- 01:05:40When should we withdraw reward?
- 01:05:41Should we use punishment?
- 01:05:42These kinds of things.
- 01:05:43This is a vast literature.
- 01:05:44We don't have time to go into all the details,
- 01:05:47but the notion of reward prediction error is so powerful
- 01:05:51that it can predict most
- 01:05:53if not all forms of learning, including habit formation.
- 01:05:56And you can deploy or use particular features
- 01:05:59of reward prediction error
- 01:06:01if you would like to reinforce
- 01:06:03or accelerate the formation of certain habits.
- 01:06:07So, reward prediction error, quite simply, is
- 01:06:11if you expect a reward and the reward comes,
- 01:06:15a particular behavior that was associated
- 01:06:18with generating that reward is more likely
- 01:06:20to occur again.
- 01:06:21That's pretty straight forward.
- 01:06:23However, the amount of reward,
- 01:06:26in the form of this molecule dopamine,
- 01:06:29that you will experience is even greater
- 01:06:31if a reward arrives that's unexpected. Okay.
- 01:06:37So let me repeat that again.
- 01:06:38If I think that something's coming that's going to be great,
- 01:06:43let's say I lean into a habit,
- 01:06:46I manage to override my limbic friction,
- 01:06:48and I'm doing my 45 minutes of writing in the morning
- 01:06:51with no phone and no internet
- 01:06:52and I'm getting toward the end,
- 01:06:53and I'm anticipating how I'm actually doing this,
- 01:06:55this is great, I did it,
- 01:06:56I'm feeling really, really good.
- 01:06:58I finish, I definitely will receive a dopamine reward,
- 01:07:03I'll make my own dopamine reward,
- 01:07:04that's where it comes from.
- 01:07:05Remember, this is all internal.
- 01:07:07However, I will also receive a dopamine reward
- 01:07:10if unexpectedly something positive happens.
- 01:07:14And typically if something unexpected
- 01:07:17but positive happens,
- 01:07:19the amount of dopamine reward
- 01:07:20that we get is actually much greater
- 01:07:22than in any other conditions.
- 01:07:24However, it's hard to surprise yourself
- 01:07:26about a behavior that you're deliberately engaging in.
- 01:07:29So that becomes a bit of a tricky one.
- 01:07:32Reward prediction error also says
- 01:07:34that if we expect a reward and the reward doesn't come
- 01:07:39that the pattern of dopamine release
- 01:07:41will follow a particular contour
- 01:07:43and that contour is very important.
- 01:07:45Here's how it goes.
- 01:07:46Let's say that I'm writing
- 01:07:50and I'm about 30 or 45 minutes in,
- 01:07:52I'm thinking, "Ah, this is great."
- 01:07:54"I'm actually, I managed to do this"
- 01:07:56"I'm succeeding in executing the behaviors"
- 01:07:58"that I need to in order to perform this habit."
- 01:08:01"I'm overriding limbic friction."
- 01:08:03Just that series of thoughts will start
- 01:08:06to generate the dopamine release within my brain and body.
- 01:08:09However, if at the 15 minute mark the phone rings
- 01:08:14and I pick up the phone
- 01:08:16or I break my own protocol, I break my own self-discipline
- 01:08:20and I go on and check social media
- 01:08:22or I do something that takes me out of that,
- 01:08:25what's going to happen is
- 01:08:27that my level of dopamine is actually going
- 01:08:30to drop below the baseline,
- 01:08:31meaning below the level of dopamine I had
- 01:08:34before I even started the habit execution. Okay?
- 01:08:38So what this is, is this system that predicts whether
- 01:08:41or not rewards are going to come.
- 01:08:43When we think a reward is going to come,
- 01:08:46it starts to actually arrive earlier
- 01:08:48in the form of dopamine release.
- 01:08:50This is the feeling
- 01:08:51that we experience as positive anticipation.
- 01:08:55You tell a kid,
- 01:08:55"Hey, we're going to go to the amusement park." Or
- 01:08:57"We're going to go get ice cream."
- 01:08:59They haven't had the ice cream yet,
- 01:09:00they're not at the amusement park,
- 01:09:01but they're excited, the dopamine release comes earlier.
- 01:09:04Okay? They get to the amusement park
- 01:09:06or they get the ice cream,
- 01:09:07they will also have some dopamine release
- 01:09:09associated with that.
- 01:09:10But most of it, believe it or not,
- 01:09:12came in the form of the anticipation.
- 01:09:14And dopamine has some qualities
- 01:09:15that make the actual ice cream
- 01:09:17and the actual amusement park experience more pleasurable
- 01:09:20than it would be had that dopamine release not happened.
- 01:09:24Now of course, the other way to do is to surprise a kid.
- 01:09:26You tell them,
- 01:09:26"Listen, we're going to the class that you absolutely hate."
- 01:09:30Or "We're going to go see the person"
- 01:09:31"that you absolutely despise."
- 01:09:33And then you drive them to the amusement park
- 01:09:34that's the big release of dopamine.
- 01:09:37But reward prediction error also says
- 01:09:39that if you tell the kid, or yourself,
- 01:09:41"Okay, we're headed to the amusement park."
- 01:09:43"We're going to get some ice cream."
- 01:09:44They're really, really excited.
- 01:09:45And then you get there and it's closed,
- 01:09:47or they're not letting any more people in,
- 01:09:49well then the dopamine level drops way below what it was
- 01:09:52before you told them that you were headed there. Okay?
- 01:09:54I've given a number of different examples
- 01:09:55that hopefully make this clear.
- 01:09:57Reward prediction error governs virtually all aspects
- 01:10:00of effort and all aspects of learning.
- 01:10:04Why? Because when dopamine is released in the brain
- 01:10:06and body, the neural circuits of our brain and body change.
- 01:10:10There's a state change.
- 01:10:12Our over level, excuse me, our overall level of energy,
- 01:10:16but also the sorts of sensory events
- 01:10:18that we're paying attention to changes
- 01:10:20when there's a lot of dopamine in our system.
- 01:10:23Now you can leverage this for habit formation.
- 01:10:26Think back to task bracketing.
- 01:10:28Think back to limbic friction.
- 01:10:31If you are considering adopting a new habit
- 01:10:35or if you are trying to break a habit,
- 01:10:37something we haven't talked too much about,
- 01:10:38but we will in a moment, it's very useful
- 01:10:41to think not just about the procedural aspects
- 01:10:44of what you're going to do,
- 01:10:46but also think about the events that precede
- 01:10:49and follow that particular habit,
- 01:10:52and the execution, or at least the effort
- 01:10:55to execute that habit.
- 01:10:57What you're doing is you're casting a kind of a spotlight
- 01:11:00around a bin of time, or a set of events,
- 01:11:03for which dopamine can be associated.
- 01:11:06What does this look like in the practical sense?
- 01:11:08Well again,
- 01:11:08I'll just try and use very simple concrete examples,
- 01:11:11but this could carry over to anything.
- 01:11:12Let's say I were somebody who has a hard time getting in
- 01:11:16that 30 to 60 minutes
- 01:11:18of zone II cardiovascular exercise mid-morning.
- 01:11:21This is actually an issue for me.
- 01:11:22I much prefer to do resistance exercise
- 01:11:24than cardiovascular exercise,
- 01:11:26although once I do it, I always feel much better
- 01:11:28that I've done it.
- 01:11:31What I should do is positively anticipate the onset
- 01:11:37and the offset of that session. Right?
- 01:11:39So thinking about leaning into the effort,
- 01:11:43going out and doing that zone II cardio session,
- 01:11:46and I should think about how I'm going to feel after.
- 01:11:48So, not just thinking about
- 01:11:49how great I'm going to feel after,
- 01:11:51but also thinking about how hard it's going to be
- 01:11:54at the beginning,
- 01:11:55and then trying to reward myself subjectively
- 01:11:57for the entire experience.
- 01:11:59In other words, start rewarding task-bracketing
- 01:12:01in addition to rewarding the execution of the habit itself.
- 01:12:06Now some of you might be saying,
- 01:12:07"Well, wait this is all self-talk."
- 01:12:09"This is just positive self-talk."
- 01:12:10But it's not positive self-talk, it's not saying, you know,
- 01:12:14"I feel so great about doing something"
- 01:12:15"that I actually hate."
- 01:12:16You can't lie to yourself,
- 01:12:17or you're welcome to lie to yourself,
- 01:12:19but the neuroscience literature,
- 01:12:20the literature of growth mindset,
- 01:12:22all the literature basically of mindset
- 01:12:24speaks to the fact that when you lie to yourself,
- 01:12:26you know you're lying,
- 01:12:27and you actually set up the opposite of a reward system.
- 01:12:30So, you have to be brutally honest with yourself
- 01:12:32that, for instance,
- 01:12:33"I don't like initiating this cardiovascular exercise"
- 01:12:37"but I do like the fact that I've done it"
- 01:12:38"after I've done it."
- 01:12:39So what you are doing is
- 01:12:41you are applying reward prediction error
- 01:12:43to the entire sequence of things
- 01:12:45that's involved in getting into the habit execution,
- 01:12:48getting through the habit execution,
- 01:12:51and getting out of the habit of execution.
- 01:12:53How do you do this?
- 01:12:54Well, I take us back
- 01:12:55to our procedural memory visualization exercises
- 01:12:59we talked about earlier.
- 01:13:00When I talked about it in that context,
- 01:13:02I talked about walking through mentally the series of steps
- 01:13:05that's required to perform a particular habit.
- 01:13:07So in the case of the zone II cardio thing it would be,
- 01:13:10"Okay up and put on my shoes,"
- 01:13:11"then I'm going to head out the door,"
- 01:13:12"then I'm going to drive up the road."
- 01:13:13There is a particular canyon near here that,
- 01:13:15if I'm going to run,
- 01:13:16I happen to like running, or I don't hate running enough
- 01:13:19that I tend to do it.
- 01:13:20Going through that, heading back, et cetera, et cetera.
- 01:13:23That's great, but even better
- 01:13:25would be to broaden the time bin
- 01:13:27and start to positively anticipate the period headed
- 01:13:30into the habit, so even before you put on your shoes.
- 01:13:35The fact that you are successfully placing the habit in,
- 01:13:39in this case, phase one of the day
- 01:13:42and that afterwards I'm going
- 01:13:44to feel a particular set of positive benefits,
- 01:13:46elevated mood, et cetera.
- 01:13:48I like being hungry and quickly after I exercise I'm hungry,
- 01:13:51so I like being hungry because I like eating,
- 01:13:52so there's a whole set of things
- 01:13:54that link up with one another.
- 01:13:55So I'm not just thinking about habit execution
- 01:13:57as this isolated little set of events,
- 01:13:59or this little time bin,
- 01:14:01but rather, I'm drawing a larger envelope around it
- 01:14:04and starting to positively associate dopamine reward
- 01:14:06with that larger envelope.
- 01:14:08And for those of you that are thinking,
- 01:14:09"Well, this is just a psychological trick."
- 01:14:11You know, you're kind of like,
- 01:14:13"This is sort of like lying to yourself."
- 01:14:14It's not because you're not actually contradicting the fact
- 01:14:17that some of this is unpleasant.
- 01:14:19What you're doing is
- 01:14:20you're taking this entire series of events,
- 01:14:22what I'm calling this kind of time envelope,
- 01:14:23and you're associating it with a particular reward
- 01:14:26that comes later,
- 01:14:27which for me would be the feeling that, you know,
- 01:14:30that I've completed this.
- 01:14:31Right? Because for me that's usually a good feeling.
- 01:14:33So reward prediction error is beautiful,
- 01:14:35not just because it's a sort of math of anticipation
- 01:14:39and reward, or a math of anticipation
- 01:14:41and disappointment,
- 01:14:42it's beautiful because you can stretch out
- 01:14:45or make more narrow the time bins
- 01:14:47in which reward prediction error works.
- 01:14:50Reward prediction error is the way
- 01:14:51in which people navigate four year degrees.
- 01:14:54Right? I mean, you go, sure, final exam
- 01:14:56to final exam, et cetera.
- 01:14:57But ultimately, there's a big payoff at the end
- 01:14:59and it's all basically for that big payoff.
- 01:15:02And of course, I understand that it's the journey,
- 01:15:04not the destination, but let's face it,
- 01:15:05for a lot of us goals
- 01:15:07and habits are about achieving some sort of destination.
- 01:15:10In the case of zone II cardio,
- 01:15:11for me it's about trying to stay alive for as long as I can,
- 01:15:14as long as I can with vitality, that is.
- 01:15:17And it's also the fact that if I'm doing that,
- 01:15:20I get to eat the foods that I like.
- 01:15:22I tend to be able to eat more,
- 01:15:23which I happen to really enjoy eating,
- 01:15:25so much so that I'd like it just as an activity.
- 01:15:27So basically what you're trying to do
- 01:15:29is not restrict your thinking to just the habit
- 01:15:32that you're trying to form, but rather,
- 01:15:34to grab ahold of the timing before
- 01:15:36and after that particular habit
- 01:15:38and start to positively associate reward mechanisms
- 01:15:41in your brain with that entire time bin.
- 01:15:44This is a very useful and very powerful tool
- 01:15:46in order to form habits.
- 01:15:48And I should say that it's not something
- 01:15:50that comes naturally to most people.
- 01:15:52In fact, even as I describe it,
- 01:15:53you might find it's still a little bit abstract,
- 01:15:55but what I encourage you to do,
- 01:15:57if you are finding it to be a little bit vague,
- 01:15:59would be to pick the habit that you want to form,
- 01:16:01write down or think about very concretely
- 01:16:04what is the sequence of steps involved
- 01:16:06in the execution of that habit,
- 01:16:08and then write down or think about
- 01:16:10what is the sequence of events
- 01:16:11that need to precede that habit,
- 01:16:13maybe the immediate 10 or 15 minutes before,
- 01:16:16as well as the immediate sequence of events
- 01:16:18and/or feelings that will occur after that habit,
- 01:16:20and then call the whole thing a habit execution.
- 01:16:24The whole thing a effort to engage in that particular habit.
- 01:16:29And in doing that, and in positively associating
- 01:16:32with the idea that you're going
- 01:16:33to complete that entire sequence,
- 01:16:35you will engage reward prediction error
- 01:16:37in the proper way that the dopamine surge
- 01:16:39can lend itself towards motivation.
- 01:16:41Because ultimately, dopamine is not about feeling good,
- 01:16:45it's about feeling motivated.
- 01:16:46This is something
- 01:16:47that I've talked about numerous times before,
- 01:16:49but dopamine, contrary to popular belief,
- 01:16:51is not a reward molecule,
- 01:16:53so much as it is a molecule of motivation and drive.
- 01:16:57And the natural consequence
- 01:16:59of doing the exercise I just described,
- 01:17:01of writing things out that precede,
- 01:17:03are involved in the immediate execution of the habit,
- 01:17:05and follow the habit,
- 01:17:06will allow you to experience an increase in energy
- 01:17:11and thereby an increase in likelihood
- 01:17:13that you're going to engage
- 01:17:14in that entire sequence of events.
- 01:17:16And the reason for that is that dopamine gives us energy,
- 01:17:18and the reason for that is that the molecule epinephrine,
- 01:17:21adrenaline, is actually manufactured from dopamine.
- 01:17:24Biochemically, it comes from dopamine.
- 01:17:27So, dopamine is powerful
- 01:17:28and you can access more dopamine
- 01:17:30around even habits that you haven't yet formed
- 01:17:34by taking this broader time envelope
- 01:17:36and task-bracketing that specific task execution
- 01:17:39or habit execution.
- 01:17:41Way back at the beginning of the episode,
- 01:17:43In promised you that I would deliver two programs
- 01:17:45that are geared towards habit formation.
- 01:17:49And I promised that I would give you ways
- 01:17:51in which you could gauge whether
- 01:17:52or not certain habits had moved from high effort,
- 01:17:56what I call high limbic friction, to reflexive.
- 01:17:59And we talked about a number of way to gauge that.
- 01:18:02In researching this episode,
- 01:18:04I found a tremendous number of different systems
- 01:18:07for habit formation.
- 01:18:08It's really amazing how much is out there.
- 01:18:10There, one says 60 days to this,
- 01:18:12or 21 days to that, or 18 days to this.
- 01:18:14I mean,
- 01:18:15it's just rampant in the popular psychology literature
- 01:18:17and in the self-help literature.
- 01:18:21I want to spell out a particular system
- 01:18:23that I think could be very useful
- 01:18:25to most if not all people
- 01:18:27that's rooted in the biology of habit formation,
- 01:18:31rooted in the psychology of habit formation,
- 01:18:33and that is entirely compatible with that phase one,
- 01:18:35phase two, phase three type program
- 01:18:37that I talked about earlier,
- 01:18:39but encompasses a bit of a longer time scale
- 01:18:41and really arrives at a kind of a system, if you will,
- 01:18:45for how to build in habits
- 01:18:48and then to test whether or not those habits
- 01:18:51have really stuck
- 01:18:52and whether or not they're likely to stick going forward.
- 01:18:55And so this, at least for the sake of this example,
- 01:18:58a 21 day system.
- 01:18:59I picked 21 days because that seems to be the average
- 01:19:02or most typical system for engaging neuroplasticity
- 01:19:06as it relates to the formation of new habits.
- 01:19:08This 21 day system, actually,
- 01:19:10is one that someone I know very well uses
- 01:19:11and has used for a very long time.
- 01:19:13They actually, their kids use it as well.
- 01:19:16And it has a certain elegance to it
- 01:19:17and I think as I describe it that elegance
- 01:19:20will begin to reveal itself.
- 01:19:22So basically what this involves is you set out
- 01:19:26to perform 6 new habits per day
- 01:19:30across the course of 21 days.
- 01:19:32Why 6 and why 21?
- 01:19:34Well, we'll talk about that in a moment.
- 01:19:36But the idea is, you write down 6 things
- 01:19:38that you would like to do every day for 21 days.
- 01:19:41What phase of the day those things fall into?
- 01:19:44Well, that will depend on what they are
- 01:19:45and how they relate to those earlier phase one,
- 01:19:47phase two, phase three, but for now,
- 01:19:4921 days, 6 things per day. However,
- 01:19:51the expectation is that you'll only complete 4
- 01:19:55to 5 of those each day. Okay?
- 01:19:58So built into this is a kind of permission to fail,
- 01:20:01but it's not failure,
- 01:20:02because it turns out that this approach
- 01:20:06to forming habits is based
- 01:20:08not so much on the specific habits
- 01:20:10that you're trying to form,
- 01:20:12but the habit of performing habits. Right?
- 01:20:15It's the habit of doing a certain number of things per day.
- 01:20:19So, you set out to perform 6.
- 01:20:21Now, another reason for not necessarily performing all 6 is
- 01:20:24that some activities probably
- 01:20:26shouldn't be performed each day.
- 01:20:28For instance, in my case, if I were to weight train
- 01:20:31or even run every day, I'm of the sort,
- 01:20:34or my biology is of the sort that I don't recover so well.
- 01:20:37So I wouldn't want to do resistance training every day,
- 01:20:40but I might want to do it 4 days a week, for instance.
- 01:20:42So by having 6 things in that list,
- 01:20:44you could shuffle out that particular activity
- 01:20:47on particular days of the week,
- 01:20:48and simply do 4 or 5 other activities.
- 01:20:51So 21 days, you list out 4 to 5 things.
- 01:20:53So it might be zone II cardio, resistance training,
- 01:20:55sunlight viewing, writing could be journaling,
- 01:20:59it could be learning a language, mathematics.
- 01:21:02Again this is going to vary
- 01:21:03depending on your particular goal
- 01:21:05and the habits that you're trying to create.
- 01:21:06But no more than six
- 01:21:08and the expectation is
- 01:21:09that you're not going to perform more than 4 to 5.
- 01:21:12If you miss a day, meaning you don't perform 4 to 5 things,
- 01:21:16there is no punishment.
- 01:21:19And in fact it's important that you don't actually try
- 01:21:23and do what, in the literature,
- 01:21:24is called a habit slip compensation,
- 01:21:26which is just fancy psychological language
- 01:21:29for if you screw up and you don't get all 4 or 5 in one day,
- 01:21:34you don't do 8 the next day in order to compensate.
- 01:21:37This actually brings me back to an example I had
- 01:21:41from graduate school.
- 01:21:42I remember when I started graduate school
- 01:21:43feeling very excited, but a little bit overwhelmed
- 01:21:45by the amount of things that I had to do
- 01:21:46because I had to both do research, I was doing coursework,
- 01:21:49at the time graduate students stipends,
- 01:21:51and still now unfortunately, were depressingly low
- 01:21:55so it was financially stressful.
- 01:21:56There were a number of things happening
- 01:21:58and I remember a neurologist, this was at UC Berkeley,
- 01:22:01he was a really fantastic scientist and person,
- 01:22:03his name was Bob Knight, some of you may know him.
- 01:22:05I remember he, I went to him and I asked, you know,
- 01:22:07"What is the process by which someone"
- 01:22:09"actually navigates graduate school successfully?"
- 01:22:11And he said, "Listen, you don't want to do anything"
- 01:22:15"or engage in a routine in any way"
- 01:22:18"that you can't keep up consistently"
- 01:22:20"for at least five and ideally 6 days per week."
- 01:22:23I thought, "Oh, that's pretty good."
- 01:22:24And he said, "Every 4 or 5 years"
- 01:22:25"you might have to update that,"
- 01:22:26"but you need to decide what you can do consistently,"
- 01:22:29"what you can do every day or at least six days a week,"
- 01:22:31"or 5 days a week."
- 01:22:33And that was very very useful to me
- 01:22:35and it fits well with this notion of habit slips,
- 01:22:37that if you happen to screw up and not be able to engage
- 01:22:41in whatever habits you're trying to learn
- 01:22:43for whatever reason, that the next day,
- 01:22:45you just get right back on on the on the horse, so to speak.
- 01:22:49However, there's a really interesting feature
- 01:22:51from the neuroscience literature
- 01:22:53and from the psychology that says
- 01:22:55that chunking this 21 days into 2 day bins
- 01:22:58can be very, very useful.
- 01:23:00While it is true that the unit of the day
- 01:23:02that our cells use is a circadian one, a 24-hour clock,
- 01:23:06there does seem to be something powerful
- 01:23:09about engaging in particular habits,
- 01:23:11in a particular sequence, for two days in a row,
- 01:23:15and then resetting, so thinking,
- 01:23:16"Okay I can do this for a day"
- 01:23:18"and if I can do it for a day,"
- 01:23:19"I can probably do it for 2 days."
- 01:23:20And then resetting. So every 2 days you're resetting.
- 01:23:23So you're kind of chunking 21 days
- 01:23:26into a series of 2 day bins, in which you are trying
- 01:23:28to perform 4 to 5 new habits
- 01:23:30and then completing that 21 days.
- 01:23:33Now, everything I've described about this 21-day program
- 01:23:36with 6 things that you're trying to do with new habits
- 01:23:38and only performing 4 to 5 and not compensating, et cetera.
- 01:23:42There's nothing neuroscientifically unique about it,
- 01:23:45except for the fact that it's not just 21 days,
- 01:23:49broken up into two day chunks.
- 01:23:52After 21 days, you stop engaging
- 01:23:55in this 21-day deliberate 4 to 5 things per day,
- 01:24:00tight schedule, and you simply go into autopilot.
- 01:24:04You ask yourself how many of those particular habits
- 01:24:07that I was deliberately trying to learn
- 01:24:09in the previous 21 days are automatically incorporated
- 01:24:13into my schedule?
- 01:24:14How many of them am I naturally doing?
- 01:24:16In other words, every 21 days you don't update
- 01:24:19and start adding new habits.
- 01:24:21You simply try and maintain the ones
- 01:24:22that you built in that first 21 days.
- 01:24:25And this I think is extremely important
- 01:24:27because in all the habit literature that I could find,
- 01:24:30sure, there was a lot of psychological data
- 01:24:33and neuroscience data, behavioral science data
- 01:24:35around here's how you form a habit,
- 01:24:37here's how you break a habit.
- 01:24:38There was even some kind of test for whether
- 01:24:41or not a habit had really achieved context independence,
- 01:24:45whether or not it was a strongly formed habit.
- 01:24:47But there wasn't a lot of information,
- 01:24:49at least by my search,
- 01:24:51of what to do once you've formed a habit,
- 01:24:53and how to evaluate whether
- 01:24:55or not that habit is likely to persist long into the future.
- 01:24:59So here's the idea, you set out these 6 things
- 01:25:04that you would like to learn,
- 01:25:05or that you would like to acquire in your life,
- 01:25:07these habits, you only expect
- 01:25:10that you're going to perform 4 or 5 each day,
- 01:25:11you do that for 21 days.
- 01:25:13Again, if you miss a day,
- 01:25:14you just hop right back on the next day.
- 01:25:16However, you should think about the functional units
- 01:25:19within this 21 day period as 2 days.
- 01:25:21You can try and nail 4 to 5 of these things for 2 days.
- 01:25:25If you happen to get all 6, great,
- 01:25:26but that's not necessarily required.
- 01:25:29So you can do it for 2 days then reset 2 days,
- 01:25:31then reset 2 days, and then in the next 21 days,
- 01:25:33you're not trying to acquire any new habits,
- 01:25:35you're not going to throw in 6 more habits
- 01:25:38that you want to learn, you're simply going to assess
- 01:25:40how well, how deeply, you rewired your nervous system
- 01:25:43to be able to perform those 6 habits
- 01:25:46of the previous 21 days.
- 01:25:48And this is extremely useful, I believe,
- 01:25:50because it will allow you to asses whether
- 01:25:53or not you can indeed make room,
- 01:25:55if you even have room, I should say, for more habits.
- 01:25:59Many people are trying to cram so many new behaviors
- 01:26:02into their nervous system, that they don't stand a chance
- 01:26:04of learning all those behaviors.
- 01:26:06What you may find,
- 01:26:07is that you kept up 2 of those things very consistently
- 01:26:10throughout the 21 days.
- 01:26:11And perhaps there was one of them that you did sporadically,
- 01:26:14and that there were 3 others that, frankly,
- 01:26:17you didn't manage to execute.
- 01:26:18You may also be one of these people, one of these mutants,
- 01:26:21that sets out to do 6 new things per day for 21 days
- 01:26:24and performs every single one of them.
- 01:26:26Terrific. More power to you. In that case,
- 01:26:28for the following 21 days, let's see whether
- 01:26:32or not you can continue to perform those very same 6 things
- 01:26:34every day for 21 days, and then, and only then,
- 01:26:37would you want to add more habits in.
- 01:26:40So you could repeat this 21 day process, you know,
- 01:26:4321 days of new habit, 21 days of testing those new habits
- 01:26:46as to whether or not they're reflexive or not.
- 01:26:48You could do that forever, if you wanted.
- 01:26:50But the idea is that this isn't something
- 01:26:52that you're doing all year long.
- 01:26:54It's that you're perhaps starting the new year
- 01:26:56or regardless of when you're listening to this,
- 01:26:58you set out to make that 21 day really the stimulus period
- 01:27:02in which the habits get wired in
- 01:27:04and then the following month,
- 01:27:05and maybe even the following months, or periods of 21 days,
- 01:27:09are really the kind of thermometer or the test bed
- 01:27:12of how well you've embedded those particular habits.
- 01:27:15And if indeed you want to continue to add new habits
- 01:27:18or you find that certain habits that you weren't able
- 01:27:20to embed in your nervous system and make reflexive,
- 01:27:22you want to then bring those in, fantastic.
- 01:27:25But it's only once you've achieved all those 6 habits
- 01:27:27as reflexive, that you would move forward.
- 01:27:29And I think this sort of system,
- 01:27:31while it could have been replaced
- 01:27:33with many other different systems.
- 01:27:35Again, there's nothing holy about this system.
- 01:27:37But this particular system has a number of features,
- 01:27:40the lack of compensation for missed days,
- 01:27:43the fact that it's a fairly high intensity program
- 01:27:46for 21 days, but then you test yourself,
- 01:27:48a kind of competition test with yourself, if you will.
- 01:27:50Those features and the fact that habit slips,
- 01:27:54missing of particular habits
- 01:27:56and not doing all 6 is kind of built into the system,
- 01:27:59I think makes it a very reasonable one.
- 01:28:01It's very adaptable to the real world.
- 01:28:04And I think it's one that, provided you obey the phase one,
- 01:28:08phase two, phase three type system
- 01:28:10that we talked about earlier,
- 01:28:10you collapse these two programs with one another,
- 01:28:13which hopefully will be easy,
- 01:28:14based on the descriptions I've given. Well, if you do that,
- 01:28:17and I think there's a very high probability
- 01:28:19that the habits that you try and form
- 01:28:21will achieve this context dependence
- 01:28:22and that it will take progressively less limbic friction
- 01:28:25to try and perform them.
- 01:28:26Thus far, we've almost exclusively been discussing
- 01:28:28how to form habits.
- 01:28:30But what about breaking habits?
- 01:28:32Certainly many people out there would like to break habits
- 01:28:35that they feel don't serve them well.
- 01:28:37One of the challenges in breaking habits is
- 01:28:40that many habits occur very, very quickly
- 01:28:43and so there isn't an opportunity to intervene
- 01:28:44until the habit has already been initiated
- 01:28:47and in some cases completed.
- 01:28:50Well, there are a couple of tools
- 01:28:52that neuroscience and psychology tell us
- 01:28:54can be very beneficial.
- 01:28:56Some of those things are somewhat intuitive
- 01:28:59and relate to what I call foundation practices.
- 01:29:01Meaning things that set the overall tone
- 01:29:04in your body and brain, such that you would be less likely
- 01:29:07to engage in a particular habit
- 01:29:09or that would raise your level of awareness,
- 01:29:12both of your situation and to how you feel inside.
- 01:29:16So things like stress reduction.
- 01:29:18Things like getting good sleep.
- 01:29:19Things like quality nutrition.
- 01:29:21Things like having positive routines
- 01:29:23arranged throughout your day.
- 01:29:24All of those, of course, will support you
- 01:29:27in trying to break particular habits.
- 01:29:29And while that can be very useful,
- 01:29:31it's admittedly very generic advice.
- 01:29:34It doesn't point to any one specific protocol.
- 01:29:36In order to identify a specific protocol
- 01:29:39that one could apply in order to break habits,
- 01:29:41we have to look at the mirror image
- 01:29:44of the sort of neuroplasticity
- 01:29:46that we talked about at the beginning of the episode.
- 01:29:48At the beginning of the episode,
- 01:29:50we talked about a form of neuroplasticity
- 01:29:51called long term potentiation,
- 01:29:53involving the NMDA receptor.
- 01:29:55Just to refresh your memory a little bit,
- 01:29:57it says that if a set of neurons is very electrically active
- 01:30:01it's likely that those neurons will communicate
- 01:30:04with themselves more easily
- 01:30:06because of changes in things like NMDA receptor activity,
- 01:30:10the recruitment of additional receptors, et cetera.
- 01:30:12It's essentially a cellular and molecular explanation
- 01:30:15for how something goes from unlearned,
- 01:30:18to learned, to reflexive.
- 01:30:20Now, in order to break synapses,
- 01:30:23or to break apart neural connections
- 01:30:25that are serving a habit that you don't want to engage in,
- 01:30:28we need to engage the process called long term depression.
- 01:30:32And long term depression has nothing to do
- 01:30:34with a state of mental depression or a reduction in mood.
- 01:30:39So I really want to be clear that
- 01:30:41when I say depression in this context
- 01:30:43it has nothing to do with psychological depression,
- 01:30:45it has nothing to do with mood.
- 01:30:47It's simply called long term depression
- 01:30:50because just as long term potentiation says
- 01:30:52if neuron A triggers the firing of neuron B,
- 01:30:55and it does so very robustly over and over and over again,
- 01:30:59then neuron A will not have to fire as intensely,
- 01:31:02or as frequently, in order to activate neuron B
- 01:31:06in the future because they become potentiated.
- 01:31:08Right? The threshold for co-activation has been reduced.
- 01:31:11There's a much higher probability
- 01:31:12that they will be activated together
- 01:31:14at low levels of intensity.
- 01:31:16That's essentially what long term potentiation is.
- 01:31:19Long term depression says that if neuron A is active
- 01:31:23and neuron B is not active within a particular time window,
- 01:31:27then the connection between neuron A and B will weaken
- 01:31:31over time, even if they started off very strongly connected.
- 01:31:35Okay? So, I'm going to repeat that
- 01:31:36because this is a pretty detailed neurobiological mechanism
- 01:31:40whereby if neuron A, and neuron B is active,
- 01:31:45but at a different time or outside a particular,
- 01:31:47what we call, temporal window,
- 01:31:49meaning outside a particular time window,
- 01:31:52then through long term depression,
- 01:31:54the connection between neuron A and neuron B will weaken.
- 01:31:58And just as a point of interest,
- 01:32:00the NMDA receptor is also involved in long term depression,
- 01:32:04although there are other molecular components involved
- 01:32:06as well.
- 01:32:07So how do you take two neurons
- 01:32:09that underlie a habit out of synchrony?
- 01:32:12How do you get them to fire asynchronously?
- 01:32:14This is pretty interesting with respect to the cellular
- 01:32:17and molecular biology, but at the behavioral level,
- 01:32:19it's especially interesting.
- 01:32:20They way that one would do this is, let's say for instance,
- 01:32:23you have a habit of picking up your phone mid work session.
- 01:32:29Okay? That's a reflexive habit I think
- 01:32:31that most people have experienced.
- 01:32:33And we often hear the idea that, oh,
- 01:32:37the phone is so filled with access to dopamine
- 01:32:40and incredible things that we're just drawn to it.
- 01:32:42But if you noticed what's happened with phone use over time,
- 01:32:45most people, including myself sometimes I admit,
- 01:32:49find ourselves just looking at our phone,
- 01:32:50or find ourselves in a particular app
- 01:32:52without actually having engaged
- 01:32:54in the conscious set of steps of,
- 01:32:55"Oh I'm really curious"
- 01:32:56"what's going on in this particular app."
- 01:32:58"I'm really curious"
- 01:32:59"what's going on in this particular website."
- 01:33:01And you just kind of "find yourself", in air quotes,
- 01:33:03for those of you listening, I'm making air quotes.
- 01:33:05You just sort of find yourself doing it because the behavior
- 01:33:09of picking up your phone is sort of reflexive,
- 01:33:10or has become fully reflexive.
- 01:33:13You see this a lot at meals
- 01:33:14where multiple people are there
- 01:33:16and no one's looking at their phone
- 01:33:17and then all of a sudden someone takes out their phone
- 01:33:19and you'll notice
- 01:33:20that other people just naturally take out their phone.
- 01:33:22It's this kind observation induced reflex.
- 01:33:26And I would wager that most people aren't consciously aware
- 01:33:30of the immediate steps involved.
- 01:33:33So the literature says there are a number of ways
- 01:33:36to break these sorts of habitual behaviors,
- 01:33:38or reflexive behaviors.
- 01:33:40Most of those approaches involve establishing some sort
- 01:33:44of reward for not performing the activity
- 01:33:47or some sort of punishment for forming the activity.
- 01:33:50I've heard of some basic things that some people will do,
- 01:33:53like they'll even put like a rubber band on their wrist,
- 01:33:55and every time they complain,
- 01:33:56or every time they do some behavior,
- 01:33:58like pick up their phone,
- 01:33:59they'll give themselves a snap on the wrist.
- 01:34:01And yeah, the rationale there is that you're trying
- 01:34:03to create a somatic, a very physical representation
- 01:34:07of something that makes it very real
- 01:34:09and harder to overlook.
- 01:34:11Other people will just do a tick mark on a piece of paper.
- 01:34:13This sort of, "What gets measured is what gets managed"
- 01:34:16kind of mindset, where if every time you do something,
- 01:34:19you take away the judgment, this is very new age-y,
- 01:34:22I realize, but this is what you find out there,
- 01:34:25if you search the literature.
- 01:34:27Even on PubMed, peer-reviewed articles,
- 01:34:29that every time you engage in a behavior,
- 01:34:31you just measure the fact that you did that behavior,
- 01:34:34you just mark it down.
- 01:34:35At the end of the day, people are supposed to look at that
- 01:34:37and say, "Oh my goodness!"
- 01:34:38"I can't believe that I spent, you know, 3 hours."
- 01:34:41Or, "I did it 46 times."
- 01:34:43And in fact, a lot of apps, social media apps,
- 01:34:46will start to give you warnings now, if you opt in,
- 01:34:49that you've been on the app for an hour,
- 01:34:51would you like to leave?
- 01:34:52Most people just click right past it and go back in.
- 01:34:54I think very few people say, "Oh my goodness!"
- 01:34:57"It's been an hour and therefor you're right,"
- 01:34:59"I absolutely shouldn't engage in this any more."
- 01:35:01It's just far to easy to just blow past those reminders.
- 01:35:04Well, the literature on habit formation
- 01:35:08and habit reduction, breaking habits, has been analyzed.
- 01:35:12There's a beautiful meta-analysis,
- 01:35:14which involves looking at a number
- 01:35:16of different studies all together,
- 01:35:19comparing the statistical strength of each of those studies,
- 01:35:22looking in different conditions
- 01:35:23what sorts of habits were trying to be made or broken.
- 01:35:25The first author on this review is Fritz, F R I T Z.
- 01:35:31I'll certainly put a link to this.
- 01:35:33It's Heather Fritz and it's
- 01:35:34"Intervention to modify habits: a scoping review."
- 01:35:37And it is indeed a very broad scale review. It's from
- 01:35:39the Journal of Occupation Participation and Health.
- 01:35:41It's published in 2020. It's a really nice article.
- 01:35:44A couple of things I learned from this article
- 01:35:46and then I'll get into the specific tool
- 01:35:47for breaking habits.
- 01:35:48Perhaps the most interesting thing that I took
- 01:35:50from this review was the finding
- 01:35:52that notifications to either engage in habits
- 01:35:57or to not engage in habits
- 01:35:58actually were not very effective over time.
- 01:36:01They were effective in the immediate period
- 01:36:03when people started using these notifications,
- 01:36:05as were little sticky notes, like,
- 01:36:07"Don't go into the refrigerator"
- 01:36:09"between the hours of whatever and whatever."
- 01:36:11Or just visual reminders,
- 01:36:13physical reminders or electronic reminders
- 01:36:16were effective in the immediate term,
- 01:36:18but in the long term, did not predict whether
- 01:36:20or not people would effectively stick
- 01:36:22to habits they were trying to stick to,
- 01:36:24or break habits that they were trying to break.
- 01:36:25So sadly, that doesn't seem to work very well.
- 01:36:28And perhaps they just need to come up
- 01:36:31with more robust reminders.
- 01:36:33I don't know, mild electric shock
- 01:36:34or something like that because what we do know,
- 01:36:36only sort of kidding about mild electric shock,
- 01:36:39but what we do know from both human
- 01:36:41and animal studies is that things like electric shock,
- 01:36:44things like monetary penalties, right?
- 01:36:47Having to pay out every time you engage
- 01:36:49in a particular behavior.
- 01:36:50Those are pretty effective ways to break habits.
- 01:36:52The problems is when people are not being monitored
- 01:36:56for habit use, for instance,
- 01:36:59you can imagine a situation where you say,
- 01:37:01"I'm not going to pick up my phone"
- 01:37:02"for the 4 hours in the early part of the day"
- 01:37:04"so I can get, you know, real dedicated focused work done."
- 01:37:07Unless someone's monitoring them, then people don't tend
- 01:37:10to monitor themselves completely enough
- 01:37:14that they punish themselves completely enough,
- 01:37:16that they break the behavior.
- 01:37:17In other words, the punishment isn't bad enough,
- 01:37:19in order to break the habit,
- 01:37:20which just speaks to how powerful these habits are
- 01:37:23once they become reflexive.
- 01:37:24They're just very, very hard to override.
- 01:37:26So it turns out that the key
- 01:37:28to generating long term depression in these pathways
- 01:37:32is actually to take the period
- 01:37:36immediately following the bad habit execution,
- 01:37:39meaning, let's say you tell yourself
- 01:37:40you're not going to pick up your phone,
- 01:37:42you're not going to bite your nails,
- 01:37:43you're not going to reflexively walk
- 01:37:45to the refrigerator at a particular time or day,
- 01:37:46but you find yourself doing it anyway,
- 01:37:48and what actually has to happen
- 01:37:50is bringing conscious awareness
- 01:37:52to the period immediately afterwards,
- 01:37:54which I think most people recognize,
- 01:37:55they realize "Ugh I just did it again. I just did it again."
- 01:37:58And in that moment, capture the sequence of events,
- 01:38:02not that led to the bad habit execution,
- 01:38:04but actually to take advantage of the fact
- 01:38:07that the neurons that were responsible
- 01:38:09for generating that bad habit were active a moment ago,
- 01:38:13and to actually engage in a replacement behavior
- 01:38:17immediately afterward.
- 01:38:19Now, this is really interesting and I think powerful
- 01:38:21because I would have thought
- 01:38:22that you have to engage in a replacement behavior
- 01:38:25that truly replaces the bad habit behavior, right?
- 01:38:28That you would have to be able
- 01:38:30to identify your state of mind
- 01:38:33or the sequence of events leading into the bad habit,
- 01:38:35but rather, the stage
- 01:38:37or the period immediately after the bad habit execution,
- 01:38:40is a unique opportunity to insert a different type of,
- 01:38:43what we would call adaptive behavior,
- 01:38:45but that could be any behavior that's not in line
- 01:38:48with the bad behavior, so let's give it an example.
- 01:38:51Let's say you find yourself,
- 01:38:53you're trying to do focused work, you pick up your phone,
- 01:38:55you're disappointed in yourself for picking up your phone,
- 01:38:58you could of course just put it down,
- 01:39:01and re-engage in the work behavior,
- 01:39:04but if you were good at that,
- 01:39:05then you probably wouldn't have done it in the first place.
- 01:39:07And so, what turns out to be very effective,
- 01:39:09is to go engage in some other positive habit.
- 01:39:12Now, this has two major effects.
- 01:39:14The first one is you start
- 01:39:16to link in time the execution of a bad behavior
- 01:39:19to this other good behavior.
- 01:39:21And in doing so, you start to recruit other neural circuits,
- 01:39:25other neurons, that can start
- 01:39:28to somewhat dismantle sequence of firing
- 01:39:31associated with the bad behavior.
- 01:39:33In other words, you start to create a kind of a double habit
- 01:39:36that starts with a bad habit,
- 01:39:38and then ends with a good habit.
- 01:39:40And that seems to create enough of a temporal mismatch
- 01:39:43so that then recognizing
- 01:39:46when you're heading toward to bad habit
- 01:39:47becomes more apparent to you.
- 01:39:50So again, I want to make this very, very concrete.
- 01:39:52Let's say
- 01:39:53that the behavior is reflexively picking up one's phone.
- 01:39:55You do that, you think, "Ugh, goodness, I did it again."
- 01:39:58Here's what I'm going to do,
- 01:39:59you would set that down
- 01:40:00and then you would engage in some other positive behavior,
- 01:40:04that you've deemed positive.
- 01:40:05And here, it's very subjective, so it's hard
- 01:40:06for me to give an example
- 01:40:07that will necessarily make sense to everybody,
- 01:40:10but perhaps you're working on hydration,
- 01:40:12so maybe you go have a glass of water.
- 01:40:14Maybe you're trying to do breath work or something.
- 01:40:18Maybe you're trying to enhance your language speaking skills
- 01:40:23so you go and you spend 5 minutes
- 01:40:24doing a particular type of language learning.
- 01:40:28You literally exit whatever you were doing
- 01:40:30and perform that other new positive habit
- 01:40:32in the immediate period right after that,
- 01:40:34even for a short period of time.
- 01:40:36It's a little bit counterintuitive,
- 01:40:38but what this does it creates kind of a cognitive
- 01:40:40and a temporal mismatch between the initial bad behavior,
- 01:40:45which before is what we would call sort of a closed loop,
- 01:40:48and the engineers out there will know
- 01:40:49what I'm talking about.
- 01:40:51But in a closed loop, so one behavior,
- 01:40:53one set of neural firings, leads to another,
- 01:40:55leads to another,
- 01:40:56and then just kind of sets the same thing in motion.
- 01:40:58It can be kind of a self perpetuating system.
- 01:41:00By changing the number of features that are in that loop,
- 01:41:03it disrupts the closed nature of that loop,
- 01:41:06it creates what we call an open loop,
- 01:41:08and in an open loop, you are better able to intervene.
- 01:41:10So, as I mentioned before, this might seem counterintuitive,
- 01:41:13you might think,
- 01:41:14"Why would I want to reward the execution of a bad habit"
- 01:41:18"with a good habit."
- 01:41:19"I don't want to reward myself for the bad habit."
- 01:41:22But really what you're trying to do is you're trying
- 01:41:24to change the nature of the neural circuits
- 01:41:26that are firing so that you can rewrite the script
- 01:41:29for that bad habit.
- 01:41:31A different way to put it would be,
- 01:41:33imagine that the bad habit is like a chord on the piano
- 01:41:38that you play, or a chord notes,
- 01:41:40or a sequence of notes that you would play,
- 01:41:42and it comes very easily.
- 01:41:44You can play it every single time.
- 01:41:45But, let's say,
- 01:41:46as you're trying to learn a new piece of music,
- 01:41:47you're just constantly inserting that
- 01:41:49at the inappropriate time.
- 01:41:50That was, you know, I think it was a decent enough analogy
- 01:41:52for a bad habit because it involves some motor execution.
- 01:41:55You just find yourself doing it.
- 01:41:57Rather than trying to prevent yourself from doing it,
- 01:41:59the next time you do it, add in a new chord
- 01:42:02or sequence that you're trying to learn.
- 01:42:05What this does then is it changes the whole nature
- 01:42:08of the sequence of neurons that are firing from bad habit
- 01:42:11through to the end of this newly applied good habit.
- 01:42:15So, this is the way in which you start to dismantle or,
- 01:42:19when I say dismantle, really weaken the likelihood
- 01:42:22that if neuron A fires, neuron B will fire.
- 01:42:25Because, as you're starting off in the mode
- 01:42:28of very reflexively performing a bad habit,
- 01:42:30those neurons are firing together
- 01:42:32without you consciously being aware of it.
- 01:42:34It's almost impossible for you to intervene in yourself
- 01:42:38without a number of other features,
- 01:42:40like severe punishment, severe consequence type outcomes.
- 01:42:44Rather, tacking on some additional sequences,
- 01:42:48like if neuron A, neuron B fires, and then you're saying,
- 01:42:51"Okay well, if neuron B fires,"
- 01:42:53"I'm going to start inserting neuron C, D, E, F to fire."
- 01:42:57Right? That's the, C, D, E, F being the positive behavior
- 01:43:00that you're going to insert.
- 01:43:02And in doing so, you create a chain of neuronal activation
- 01:43:05that then is very easy to dismantle.
- 01:43:07And so, when people have applied this kind of approach,
- 01:43:10it removes the need to have constant conscious awareness
- 01:43:15of one's own behavior prior to that behavior,
- 01:43:18which is very, very difficult to achieve.
- 01:43:20Rather, what they find is that they are able to engage
- 01:43:24in re-mapping of neural circuits associated with bad habits
- 01:43:27in ways that are very, very straightforward.
- 01:43:30Right? Because you can always identify
- 01:43:32when you've done the thing you don't want to do
- 01:43:34and then tack on to that something additional
- 01:43:36that's positive.
- 01:43:37Now, the nature of that positive thing is important.
- 01:43:40You don't want it to be something
- 01:43:41that's very hard to execute.
- 01:43:43You want it to be something that's positive
- 01:43:44and fairly easy to execute,
- 01:43:46so that you're not struggling all the time
- 01:43:48to insert this on top of this bad behavior,
- 01:43:50whatever that bad behavior might happen to be.
- 01:43:53But again,
- 01:43:54this is rooted in the biology of long term depression,
- 01:43:56it maps very well to the behavioral change literature
- 01:43:59that I was able to glean that really shows
- 01:44:01that rather than just get reminders,
- 01:44:03rather than try and instill punishment,
- 01:44:04rather than setting up reward for breaking bad habits,
- 01:44:07that perhaps the simplest way to approach this is
- 01:44:10to tack on additional behaviors to the bad habits,
- 01:44:13make sure those behaviors are good behaviors,
- 01:44:15or behaviors that are adaptive for you,
- 01:44:18and in doing so, you will soon find
- 01:44:20that the initiation of the bad habit
- 01:44:22takes on a whole new form
- 01:44:23or that you're not even inspired to do it at all.
- 01:44:26And of course, I want to acknowledge
- 01:44:27that breaking bad habits is really hard.
- 01:44:30We had an episode all about addiction
- 01:44:32with Dr. Anna Lembke from Stanford Medical School.
- 01:44:36She's a colleague of mine
- 01:44:37who runs the Dual-Diagnosis Addiction Clinic at Stanford.
- 01:44:40And in that episode, we talked a lot about how addicts
- 01:44:43for drugs, alcohol, people have addictions
- 01:44:47to certain types of behaviors, or avoidance behaviors even,
- 01:44:50that in the case of addiction,
- 01:44:51there has to be a tremendous kind of full-scale campaign
- 01:44:55for them to be able to intervene in their behavior.
- 01:44:57So, for those of you
- 01:44:58that are thinking about bad habit breaking
- 01:44:59in the context of addictive type behaviors,
- 01:45:02definitely check out that episode.
- 01:45:04Addiction does employ some of these principles
- 01:45:07around habit making and habit breaking, as it were,
- 01:45:11but of course, because the consequences
- 01:45:14of certain habits in addiction can be so severe,
- 01:45:17there's other sets of protocols
- 01:45:20and there's a kind of a psychological backdrop to it
- 01:45:22that's very important.
- 01:45:23It also relates to the biology of dopamine,
- 01:45:24and you can find all of that in the episode
- 01:45:27with Dr. Anna Lembke.
- 01:45:28So today we've covered a lot about the biology
- 01:45:31and the psychology of habit formation
- 01:45:33and habit breaking.
- 01:45:35We talked about why certain habits are so hard to wire in,
- 01:45:40why certain habits are so hard to break down
- 01:45:42and eliminate, and how we can determine
- 01:45:45which habits are going to be easier for us to access
- 01:45:48and which habits are going to be harder
- 01:45:50for us to access and break.
- 01:45:53We talked a lot about this notion of limbic friction
- 01:45:55and we talked about context dependence.
- 01:45:57And we talked about a number of different things
- 01:46:00as it relates to neural circuits
- 01:46:02and the formation of new connections in the brain,
- 01:46:05and strengthening and weakening of connections in the brain.
- 01:46:07We also discussed two programs.
- 01:46:09Programs designed specifically for you
- 01:46:12on the basis of the neurobiology literature
- 01:46:15and the literature on the psychology of habit formation
- 01:46:17and habit breaking.
- 01:46:18Just to briefly recap,
- 01:46:20one program involves dividing the 24 hour day
- 01:46:23into three phases, phase one, phase two, phase three,
- 01:46:27and to try and tackle specific habits
- 01:46:29at particular phases of the 24 hour cycle.
- 01:46:33The second program involved a 21 day process
- 01:46:36of engaging approximately 6 new habits per day,
- 01:46:41although the expectation, as I mentioned earlier,
- 01:46:43is that you're not going to perform all 6 of those.
- 01:46:46And an assessment in the following 21 days
- 01:46:48as to whether or not you have indeed formed those new habits
- 01:46:51or not.
- 01:46:52And there were a number of other features
- 01:46:54that I mentioned that were related
- 01:46:55to those two general programs.
- 01:46:57Phase one, phase two, phase three, and the 21 day program,
- 01:47:00and how those could be meshed together.
- 01:47:02So, I'm guessing some of you will probably have questions
- 01:47:04about those programs and how to apply them,
- 01:47:06but hopefully they were clear enough for you to get started.
- 01:47:09This is a good opportunity for me to mention
- 01:47:11that the Huberman Lab Podcast
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- 01:47:16that is sent out approximately once a month.
- 01:47:19For the next newsletter,
- 01:47:20I will release a on-paper version of these two systems
- 01:47:25and how they mesh together for habit formation
- 01:47:28and habit breaking, and if you'd like to access that,
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- 01:48:00for teachers and for students of various kinds,
- 01:48:02those are also posted there
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- 01:48:07My hope is that today you've learned
- 01:48:08both the biological mechanisms
- 01:48:10and the practical tools by which you can start
- 01:48:12to establish habits that, for you,
- 01:48:15you deem adaptive, healthy,
- 01:48:17and that are going to support you in your goals.
- 01:48:18And that you can start to dismantle some of the habits
- 01:48:21that you find to be unhealthy or maladaptive
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- 01:50:15with what you hear on the podcast,
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- 01:50:19And once again,
- 01:50:20I want to thank you for going on this journey
- 01:50:22of exploring the neuroscience
- 01:50:24and the psychology of habit formation and habit breaking.
- 01:50:28I hope it supports you in your goals.
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- 01:50:33[mellow music]
- Habits
- Neuroscience
- Psychology
- Dopamine
- Task-bracketing
- Limbic friction
- Neuroplasticity
- Habit formation
- Habit breaking
- Behavioral change