Don't Buy The RTX 5060

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Zusammenfassung

TLDRIn this video, Hardware Unboxed discusses Nvidia's manipulation of media coverage surrounding the GeForce RTX 5060 GPU. They express concerns about the misleading nature of previews that have been released ahead of the product's launch, emphasizing the importance of waiting for independent reviews. The hosts provide a historical context of Nvidia's tactics, highlighting how the company has increasingly sought to control the narrative around its products by granting early access to select media outlets under strict guidelines. They warn consumers against making purchasing decisions based on potentially biased preview content and recommend waiting for comprehensive reviews to ensure an accurate understanding of the GPU's performance.

Mitbringsel

  • 🛑 Don't buy the RTX 5060 based on previews.
  • 📉 Previews may show inflated performance numbers.
  • 🔍 Wait for independent reviews for accurate assessments.
  • 📊 Nvidia has a history of manipulating media coverage.
  • ⚠️ Frame generation can skew performance comparisons.
  • 📰 Previews often come with restrictions from Nvidia.
  • 💡 Independent reviews provide a broader perspective.
  • 📅 The RTX 5060 lacks a proper review program.
  • 📈 Be cautious of biased media outlets.
  • 🔗 Transparency in reviews is crucial for consumers.

Zeitleiste

  • 00:00:00 - 00:05:00

    The hosts of Hardware Unboxed discuss the upcoming launch of the GeForce RTX 5060 at Computex 2025, expressing concerns over Nvidia's media manipulation regarding previews and reviews. They emphasize the importance of waiting for independent reviews before making a purchase decision.

  • 00:05:00 - 00:10:00

    They reflect on Nvidia's history of manipulating media coverage, citing the RTX 3080 and RTX 3090 launches as examples where early access was granted to select outlets, leading to potentially misleading initial impressions of product performance.

  • 00:10:00 - 00:15:00

    The hosts highlight the difference between previews and reviews, explaining that previews often come with restrictions that can skew results in favor of the product, while reviews allow for more comprehensive and honest assessments without such limitations.

  • 00:15:00 - 00:20:00

    They discuss the recent RTX 5070 launch, where previews appeared just days before independent reviews, raising concerns about the integrity of the information being presented to consumers and the potential for biased coverage.

  • 00:20:00 - 00:25:00

    The conversation shifts to the RTX 5060, where the hosts express alarm over the lack of an independent review program and the prevalence of misleading preview content that inflates performance metrics through selective testing.

  • 00:25:00 - 00:32:28

    In conclusion, they urge viewers not to purchase the RTX 5060 based on preview coverage, stressing the need for transparency and independent evaluations to ensure consumers receive accurate information about the product.

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Video-Fragen und Antworten

  • What is the main concern regarding the RTX 5060 previews?

    The main concern is that the previews may be misleading and do not provide a complete or accurate representation of the GPU's performance.

  • Why should consumers wait for reviews before buying the RTX 5060?

    Consumers should wait for independent reviews to get an unbiased assessment of the GPU's performance, as previews may be influenced by Nvidia's marketing.

  • What tactics has Nvidia used in the past regarding product launches?

    Nvidia has used tactics such as granting early access to select media outlets to shape initial impressions and manipulate performance comparisons.

  • What is the difference between a preview and a review?

    Previews often come with restrictions on testing conditions set by the manufacturer, while reviews are independent and can cover a wider range of scenarios.

  • Which media outlets were mentioned as having questionable previews?

    Media outlets like Gamers Radar and PC Gamer were mentioned for their previews that followed Nvidia's guidelines.

  • What is the significance of frame generation in the RTX 5060 previews?

    Frame generation is used in the previews to show inflated performance numbers, making the RTX 5060 appear significantly better than it may be in real-world scenarios.

  • What should consumers do if they are interested in the RTX 5060?

    Consumers should refrain from purchasing the RTX 5060 until independent reviews are available.

  • How has Nvidia's approach to media changed over time?

    Nvidia's approach has become more aggressive in manipulating media coverage and controlling the narrative around their products.

  • What are the potential consequences of relying on preview content?

    Relying on preview content can lead to consumers making uninformed purchasing decisions based on biased or incomplete information.

  • What is the overall recommendation from the video hosts?

    The hosts recommend not buying the RTX 5060 until proper independent reviews are available.

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    Welcome back to Hardware Unboxed. We're
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    here in Taipei for Computex 2025. And
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    well, we woke up this morning and we saw
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    some pretty disappointing things
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    occurring in the media relating to the
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    GeForce RTX 5060, which as you all know
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    is launching in the next couple of days.
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    There's just been some odd preview
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    coverage and that sort of thing. So, we
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    wanted to get in front of the camera and
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    just talk about, I guess, Nvidia's
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    manipulation of the media when it comes
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    to previews and review coverage. Why you
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    shouldn't be using previews of the RTX
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    5060 to buy this specific GPU and why we
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    strongly believe you should still wait
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    for reviews, which is going to be
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    difficult cuz, you know, we're here in
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    in Taipei. We're going to talk a little
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    bit about that. And, yeah, just this is
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    a longunning situation that Nvidia has
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    been implementing for a while now. So,
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    we're going to give a little bit of a
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    history into it and yeah, just really
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    Yeah. So, I think we'll go back and talk
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    about some of the examples that have led
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    to where we are right now. won't won't
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    dig up a whole I won't go into every
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    single example because we'd be probably
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    talking for about an hour about all the
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    uh questionable decisions that have been
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    made over the years. But what stands out
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    to me as sort of a if a turning point is
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    the right word, but a point where this
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    started to occur, this manipulation of
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    reviews most not most notably would have
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    been probably the RTX3080 release, which
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    really unnecessary I thought anyway
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    because that's a great product, but it
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    was sort of a baby step. Um, and we
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    don't really want to name too many names
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    here. In this example, um, Digital
  • 00:02:36
    Foundry were granted early access to
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    look at the RTX3080 and sort of a
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    preview review style. Uh, I think it was
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    a few days before the actual reviews
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    were set to go live, which they did. Um,
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    so in this particular example, it wasn't
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    terribly egregious, but it was still an
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    attempt to manipulate the initial
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    impressions of the product. So, in their
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    instance, they were only allowed to
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    benchmark at 4K uh comparing the RTX
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    3080 with the 2080. Now, this led to a
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    best case scenario showing typically
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    around an 80% performance uh uplift. I
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    think they saw about 77% on average,
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    which wasn't that much above what you do
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    see when comparing those two GPUs at 4K.
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    It's around the 70% mark across a wide
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    range of games. So, not miles off, but
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    at 1440p, the RTX 3080 wasn't nearly as
  • 00:03:30
    impressive relative to the 2080 for
  • 00:03:32
    numerous reasons, and that is still true
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    to this day. You were looking at just
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    shy of a 50% performance uplift on
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    average. So, if the initial impression
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    was you're looking, you know, let's say
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    48% uplift at 1440p, and that's probably
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    a resolution that most gamers were
  • 00:03:47
    focused on, that's a lot less exciting
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    than 80%. But again, it's not a horrible
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    example. It wasn't terribly misleading,
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    which is why I think most people were
  • 00:03:57
    happy with it and it didn't raise too
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    many eyebrows at the time. It it didn't
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    really need to be done. Odd choice and
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    it was very much using the strong
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    reputation that Digital Foundry has
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    built up over the years to, you know,
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    basically say exactly what Nvidia has
  • 00:04:13
    wanted to say through them. So, I wasn't
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    particularly happy with that coverage at
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    the time. Again, don't really want to
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    call Digital Foundry out on that. I
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    think looking back their content was
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    fine. Definitely showed a best case
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    scenario, but it wasn't miles difference
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    to what reality was. So, not a huge
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    problem there. And again, it just didn't
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    need to happen on Nvidia's side. Got
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    even weirder though, probably more just
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    well, I don't want to say justified, but
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    it it got weirder with the RTX3090.
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    That's where the whole 8K meme began.
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    And Mhm. again, they lent on the
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    reputation of multiple well-known, in a
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    lot of instances, trusted media outlets
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    to push the narrative that the RTX3090
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    was a product worth buying because it
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    was very future proof. It was going to
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    support 8K TVs and upcoming gaming
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    monitors and things like that and offer
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    an experience that you just couldn't get
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    on any other
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    GPU. Again, it turned out to be more of
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    the 8K meme. No one really bought that,
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    but they attempted to again manipulate
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    the the messaging there with sort of
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    early access to this 8K focused content.
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    So, we'll sort of fast forward. I think
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    we'll mostly skip the GeForce 40 series
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    and just jump pretty much to the present
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    so we don't drag this out too much. So,
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    with the release of the RTX 5070, again,
  • 00:05:31
    days before those reviews were set to go
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    live, we just out of nowhere saw a
  • 00:05:36
    series of previews pop up uh claiming,
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    you know, that it was an amazing gaming
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    experience and it offered huge
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    performance gains, you know, 5070 faster
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    than a 4090 type stuff. It was really
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    paring those Nvidia marketing talking
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    points. And that again was a couple of
  • 00:05:54
    days before the real independent reviews
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    were set to go live. Now unclear if this
  • 00:06:00
    content was paid for or not or it was
  • 00:06:02
    sort of throwing certain media outlets a
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    bone. If you if you play nice with us,
  • 00:06:06
    we'll shower you in views for the early
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    access content. So easy content to make
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    and good views. So I think we need to be
  • 00:06:14
    clear here what the difference is
  • 00:06:15
    between a review and a preview because
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    you might be wondering, you know, what
  • 00:06:19
    is the difference? If they've got early
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    access, surely they can just make
  • 00:06:22
    anything that they want to make in that
  • 00:06:24
    preview period. But really the
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    difference is with the reviews, the day
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    one reviews that we would cover, Gamers
  • 00:06:30
    Nexus, all the independent outlets,
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    there's no restrictions on what we can
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    talk about with the products at all. So
  • 00:06:35
    we can basically say anything we want to
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    say. We don't sign anything that says
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    that we have to cover certain things.
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    We're just giving our honest opinions uh
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    on the product and we're adhering to the
  • 00:06:44
    NDA so that everyone gets a fair go at
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    making their content at the same time.
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    So there's no rush to get content out
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    and that sort of thing. With previews
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    though, usually there is a document that
  • 00:06:54
    you sign and agree to to get that early
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    access ahead of the review date. So when
  • 00:06:58
    it comes to a preview, there might be,
  • 00:07:00
    you know, a number of dot points saying,
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    well, you have to test at this
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    resolution or you have to test these
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    games or you have to test these
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    configurations. And Nvidia will be very
  • 00:07:08
    specific about, you know, providing
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    certain configurations that are
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    favorable to the product that is being
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    tested. Which is why in the case of that
  • 00:07:16
    5070 content, there was a lot of focus
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    on configurations that you know wouldn't
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    exceed the VRAM buffer, were very
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    favorable with frame generation and that
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    sort of thing, which may not have been
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    the focus of the independent reviews
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    that you would have seen a couple of
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    days later. They almost always don't
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    include Radeon GPUs. So completely
  • 00:07:32
    ignores the competition, which that's
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    one of the main criterias of paid
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    content is no competing products. So we
  • 00:07:39
    just want to show people who have
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    invested in our products before a clear
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    path to upgrade. and so on and why you
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    should be incentivized to upgrade to
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    this new product we're releasing. In the
  • 00:07:49
    example of the RTX 5070, the friendly
  • 00:07:52
    media outlets that we're aware of that
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    made some coverage was Gamers Radar and
  • 00:07:57
    PC Gamer. Both of those were chosen. Uh
  • 00:08:01
    Gamers Radar, their title for their
  • 00:08:03
    content piece was, "I've been using the
  • 00:08:05
    RTX 5070 to play a bunch of games early
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    and it might be the console killing GPU
  • 00:08:10
    I've been waiting for." Kind of a
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    nothing title there, but it would have
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    been the testing that was a bit unusual.
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    A lot of multiframe generation on versus
  • 00:08:19
    off on previous generations showing very
  • 00:08:21
    skewed results. PC Gamer, their title
  • 00:08:25
    read, "Nvidia RTX 5070 hands-on preview.
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    A sneak peek at my unreleased RTX
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    Blackwell card hitting tripledigit frame
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    rates in Cyberpunk 2077 at 1440p and
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    avowed at 4K." And of course, they were
  • 00:08:38
    again testing with multiframe generation
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    enabled on the Blackwell GPU, so the
  • 00:08:43
    GeForce 50 series GPU, the 5070, and
  • 00:08:46
    then, you know, no multiframe generation
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    on the previous generation that doesn't
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    support it. So, big old skewed graphs
  • 00:08:53
    with data that makes it seem like the
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    GeForce 50 series is a far more
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    significant upgrade than it really is.
  • 00:08:59
    At least with those previews, you were
  • 00:09:01
    able to see independent review coverage
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    within a couple of days. like these
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    previews were released ahead of time,
  • 00:09:07
    but within a few days and still ahead of
  • 00:09:09
    the launch of the 5070, the actual
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    retail launch, you able to get the full
  • 00:09:13
    independent picture, which covered a
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    whole bunch of scenarios and wasn't just
  • 00:09:17
    the Nvidia games that they thought were
  • 00:09:19
    the most favorable scenario. So, as you
  • 00:09:21
    can sort of see, we've gone from the
  • 00:09:23
    3080 launch back in the day where, you
  • 00:09:25
    know, a couple of examples were used,
  • 00:09:27
    but were generally somewhat reflective
  • 00:09:30
    of the products to then with this
  • 00:09:33
    current generation, we got the 5070, bit
  • 00:09:35
    more of that sort of preview, misleading
  • 00:09:37
    numbers, frame generation to now what we
  • 00:09:40
    think is clearly the worst example we
  • 00:09:42
    have seen of this media manipulation,
  • 00:09:44
    the RTX 5060 in the previews that we
  • 00:09:47
    woke up to this morning. And again, like
  • 00:09:49
    the preview coverage was exactly the
  • 00:09:52
    same really as the 5070 and the
  • 00:09:53
    structure, the the examples that Nvidia
  • 00:09:56
    wanted people to use. So 1080p gaming
  • 00:09:58
    because the 5060 is supposed to be a
  • 00:10:00
    1080p card. Lots of multi-frame
  • 00:10:02
    generation examples and specifically,
  • 00:10:04
    you know, 4x frame gen on versus no
  • 00:10:07
    frame gen with 3060s and 2060s, for
  • 00:10:10
    example. We've seen some pretty
  • 00:10:11
    egregious charts that show highly
  • 00:10:13
    misleading inflated numbers there. And
  • 00:10:16
    so there's all of that. There's all of
  • 00:10:17
    that angle. You're getting a preview a
  • 00:10:19
    couple of days ahead of launch that has
  • 00:10:22
    misleading numbers. But this is
  • 00:10:24
    compounded by the fact that there's no
  • 00:10:26
    review program for the 5060. There's no
  • 00:10:29
    independent coverage of this product. At
  • 00:10:31
    least it's going to be enabled before
  • 00:10:33
    launch because we still as we sit here
  • 00:10:36
    today do not have driver access for the
  • 00:10:38
    5060. So with 5070 you got reviews. You
  • 00:10:42
    would have gotten reviews just before
  • 00:10:43
    launch. With the 5060 we do not have
  • 00:10:45
    driver access. And the only way to have
  • 00:10:47
    gotten driver access for the 5060 is to
  • 00:10:49
    opt in to this review program. Mhm.
  • 00:10:52
    Yeah, that's right. So, in summary, the
  • 00:10:55
    way this story is developed is many
  • 00:10:57
    weeks ago now, uh, prior to the RTX 5060
  • 00:11:01
    Ti reviews, we had a private meeting
  • 00:11:03
    with Nvidia where essentially they were
  • 00:11:07
    tell they didn't tell us this, but
  • 00:11:08
    essentially they revealed that they were
  • 00:11:10
    uh bearing the 8 GB versions. So the
  • 00:11:12
    5060 Ti 8 GB and the 5060, no real
  • 00:11:16
    review program for
  • 00:11:17
    those. Don't worry about those. So we're
  • 00:11:20
    burying them without burying them. So
  • 00:11:22
    obviously we managed to get a 5060 Ti 8
  • 00:11:24
    GB. We've now provided content on that.
  • 00:11:27
    The 5060 they didn't really mention.
  • 00:11:29
    They were just said when that becomes
  • 00:11:31
    available in May, you guys can get your
  • 00:11:33
    hands on one and test it and you're free
  • 00:11:35
    to make your reviews. And when we
  • 00:11:37
    pressed them a bit more on that, it
  • 00:11:39
    seemed like there wasn't going well,
  • 00:11:41
    there definitely wasn't a review
  • 00:11:42
    program. It was unclear when we'd be
  • 00:11:43
    able to get one, but they'll just appear
  • 00:11:45
    on shelves and when they do, we can
  • 00:11:48
    review one. So, not great. Then it that
  • 00:11:51
    story evolved into we're now releasing
  • 00:11:53
    it during the Computex trade show. So,
  • 00:11:56
    while all the tech media is out trying
  • 00:11:58
    to cover the biggest tech trade show of
  • 00:12:00
    the year, this card will appear on
  • 00:12:02
    shelves and you'll be able to buy it and
  • 00:12:05
    review it then. Except we're in
  • 00:12:06
    Compiteex. So in Taiwan attending
  • 00:12:08
    Compiteex, so can't do that. And
  • 00:12:11
    although we were able to get our hands
  • 00:12:13
    on cards weeks ago, Nvidia were
  • 00:12:16
    withholding the driver. So that means we
  • 00:12:18
    couldn't get access to the required
  • 00:12:20
    driver ahead of time to produce our
  • 00:12:22
    review before we came here to Taiwan. So
  • 00:12:24
    it could go out on the 20th. So as a
  • 00:12:26
    result, yeah, we're not going to have a
  • 00:12:28
    review on the 20th. Uh and probably
  • 00:12:30
    won't have one shortly after, though. We
  • 00:12:32
    we're working on a few things there. So
  • 00:12:34
    anyway, that's the situation. But as Tim
  • 00:12:36
    said, making it even worse, now we have
  • 00:12:38
    the previews, but the previews won't be
  • 00:12:40
    followed by reviews. Uh except for the
  • 00:12:43
    outlets that got the preview driver. So
  • 00:12:45
    the more friendly media outlets that
  • 00:12:49
    were uh basically agreed to doing these
  • 00:12:51
    highly questionable previews are now
  • 00:12:53
    able to provide reviews. So, probably
  • 00:12:55
    not going to be the most critical RTX
  • 00:12:58
    5060 reviews you're going to come
  • 00:13:00
    across, but could be wrong on that one.
  • 00:13:01
    But I'm sure some of them uh will be
  • 00:13:04
    much more friendly than what you'd see
  • 00:13:06
    from the likes of Gamers Nexus or us as
  • 00:13:08
    an example. Yeah, there's really been no
  • 00:13:10
    example in the history so far up until
  • 00:13:12
    this point where Nvidia's made such a
  • 00:13:14
    concerted effort to bury what we think
  • 00:13:16
    is a very mainstream product. Like
  • 00:13:18
    there's certainly been products, more
  • 00:13:20
    niche examples like 3050 6 GB come to
  • 00:13:23
    mind more recently. 3080 12 GB as well
  • 00:13:27
    where they're just released onto the
  • 00:13:28
    market. There's not been much review
  • 00:13:30
    access or anything. They're just
  • 00:13:31
    released. You have to test it at some
  • 00:13:33
    point later. The 5060 though that is the
  • 00:13:36
    60 series card. It's not a ver we're not
  • 00:13:38
    talking about a version of the 5060
  • 00:13:40
    that's like a specific you know maybe
  • 00:13:43
    worse version downclocked or down you
  • 00:13:46
    know down configured version of the
  • 00:13:48
    card. This is the 5060 that lots of
  • 00:13:50
    people will be buying. And so to go
  • 00:13:52
    through with a preview program which
  • 00:13:55
    again it kind of establishes content on
  • 00:13:58
    the internet that if you search for the
  • 00:13:59
    5060 the first things that will be
  • 00:14:01
    coming up around the time you're buying
  • 00:14:02
    the cards are going to be the preview
  • 00:14:05
    content and then the first trickling out
  • 00:14:07
    of those reviews as you were saying from
  • 00:14:08
    the the outlets that did previews and
  • 00:14:10
    then later down the line content from us
  • 00:14:12
    Gamers Nexus and the usual people. So
  • 00:14:15
    some important details for these
  • 00:14:16
    previews that you guys are seeing. they
  • 00:14:18
    had to agree to quite strict guidelines
  • 00:14:21
    in order to receive the driver and they
  • 00:14:24
    had to create this preview content. So,
  • 00:14:26
    it wasn't like, oh yeah, send us the
  • 00:14:27
    driver, we might do something with it,
  • 00:14:29
    and then you're able to make the review.
  • 00:14:31
    You really had to agree to these terms
  • 00:14:32
    and conditions with Nvidia. So, that's
  • 00:14:35
    what's happened here. And we have
  • 00:14:37
    there's a half a dozen or so media
  • 00:14:40
    outlets that have agreed to this that
  • 00:14:41
    we've seen previews from so far. So,
  • 00:14:43
    GameStar, Games Radar, Tom's Guide,
  • 00:14:46
    JVTech, and ASI 2, which I believe is a
  • 00:14:50
    Japanese
  • 00:14:51
    publication. So, the guidelines state,
  • 00:14:54
    as far as we can tell, that it can only
  • 00:14:57
    be compared, so this is the RTX 5060 can
  • 00:15:00
    only be compared with the RTX 3060 and
  • 00:15:03
    the 2060 Super. Now, I did see one
  • 00:15:05
    comparison out of one of these that did
  • 00:15:07
    look at the RTX 4060, so I'm not 100%
  • 00:15:10
    sure whether they broke the guidelines
  • 00:15:12
    or or what, but in any case, they
  • 00:15:15
    weren't allowed to compare with Radeon
  • 00:15:17
    GPUs or anything like that. And they
  • 00:15:19
    really did go out of their way to
  • 00:15:21
    handpick the cards that would probably
  • 00:15:23
    make the 5060, well, certainly the the
  • 00:15:26
    testing makes the 5060 look better than
  • 00:15:28
    it was, but they're trying to target
  • 00:15:29
    people obviously with these older cards
  • 00:15:32
    and entice them into upgrading. That's
  • 00:15:34
    being generous. I think the clear reason
  • 00:15:35
    is the 3060 and 2060 Super do not
  • 00:15:38
    support frame generation of any kind.
  • 00:15:40
    So, they're clearly trying to show well
  • 00:15:43
    4x frame gen, 4x multi frame gen that
  • 00:15:46
    the 5060 supports compared to no frame
  • 00:15:48
    generation. And if you include the 4060,
  • 00:15:50
    you have at least single frame
  • 00:15:52
    generation. So, by specifically
  • 00:15:54
    including 3060 versus 5060, you're
  • 00:15:57
    getting the largest difference between
  • 00:15:59
    generations enabled by multiframe
  • 00:16:02
    generation FPS output, which is what the
  • 00:16:04
    graphs from these media outlets show.
  • 00:16:06
    They're showing you three times more
  • 00:16:08
    performance out of a 5060 or or more
  • 00:16:10
    than that, which is crazy. So, but
  • 00:16:12
    again, that's as Tim pointed out, frame
  • 00:16:14
    generation, which I was about to get to.
  • 00:16:17
    So, the the well, I'll go to the games
  • 00:16:19
    tested first. So, the games tested are
  • 00:16:21
    Avowed, Doom: The Dark Ages, Marvel
  • 00:16:23
    Rivals, Cyberpunk 2077, and Hogwarts
  • 00:16:26
    Legacy. I don't think there's anything
  • 00:16:27
    too crazy. Of course, Cyber Punk's in
  • 00:16:28
    there, but the games tested fine,
  • 00:16:31
    whatever. I mean, they're all perfectly
  • 00:16:33
    fine games to include, especially when
  • 00:16:34
    you're only comparing GeForce GPUs with
  • 00:16:36
    GeForce GPUs. Don't really have too much
  • 00:16:38
    of a problem with the games list. I
  • 00:16:40
    mean, probably not wrapped that there's
  • 00:16:42
    a games list to begin with and you can't
  • 00:16:44
    just test it however you'd like to, but
  • 00:16:47
    it's the settings that are the big
  • 00:16:49
    problem here. So, 8 GB GPU and therefore
  • 00:16:53
    the testing has been limited to 1080p.
  • 00:16:55
    Ultra settings though, which is an
  • 00:16:57
    interesting choice, but with DLSS
  • 00:16:59
    quality upscaling. So, you're at 1080p
  • 00:17:02
    with quality upscaling. And then if
  • 00:17:04
    there's ray tracing, ray reconstruction,
  • 00:17:06
    or path tracing, that's to be turned on
  • 00:17:08
    when available. Uh, and then of course
  • 00:17:10
    multiframe generation. So you could end
  • 00:17:13
    up with a scenario where the 5060 is
  • 00:17:16
    only capable of about 20 frames per
  • 00:17:18
    second, maybe 30 frames per second, but
  • 00:17:20
    because using multi-frame generation,
  • 00:17:22
    the performance looks very good and the
  • 00:17:24
    other GPUs will be pretty well unusable.
  • 00:17:26
    So again, as Tim said, it's I said it
  • 00:17:29
    incentivizes you to upgrade, but it it
  • 00:17:32
    just shows extremely skewed data that is
  • 00:17:34
    in no way realistic or representative of
  • 00:17:37
    real world performance. It's really just
  • 00:17:38
    to break benchmark graphs. So, that's
  • 00:17:41
    the goal there. And really, they're
  • 00:17:43
    trying to work out how to get their own
  • 00:17:45
    marketing slides into mainstream media.
  • 00:17:47
    So, there's been a big push. Uh, we've
  • 00:17:50
    been targeted with it in the past to
  • 00:17:52
    test with DLSS stuff like frame
  • 00:17:54
    generation enabled and it's an attempt
  • 00:17:56
    to legitimize the misleading marketing.
  • 00:17:58
    They they again they're going and using
  • 00:18:01
    the reputation that these sites have in
  • 00:18:02
    terms of producing independent testing
  • 00:18:04
    and saying well we want you to
  • 00:18:07
    essentially copy the marketing and put
  • 00:18:09
    it into a different format that makes it
  • 00:18:11
    look like you've come to that as an
  • 00:18:13
    independent conclusion which isn't
  • 00:18:15
    necessarily the case because again there
  • 00:18:16
    are guidelines that would be listing
  • 00:18:17
    these testing configurations. In summary
  • 00:18:20
    there or our opinion on this is the
  • 00:18:22
    previews are very bad should not be done
  • 00:18:24
    under any circumstances. There's really
  • 00:18:26
    no justification for any of these media
  • 00:18:29
    outlets doing these previews. You should
  • 00:18:32
    never create content following any
  • 00:18:35
    company's guidelines, especially when
  • 00:18:36
    there's strict guidelines like that. So,
  • 00:18:39
    it's just it's damaging. Shouldn't be
  • 00:18:41
    done. Very poor practice. And there's
  • 00:18:43
    really no defending it.
  • 00:18:45
    Uh yeah, I think that's fair to say you
  • 00:18:47
    agree with that. Yeah. You just it's
  • 00:18:49
    bad. You're becoming the marketing arm
  • 00:18:51
    of the of the company. It's even if it's
  • 00:18:53
    not a paid for piece, it's effectively
  • 00:18:56
    spawn, like sponsored content. Well,
  • 00:18:58
    they're getting paid in one way or
  • 00:18:59
    another. So, why would you take such a
  • 00:19:02
    deal? Well, you get views. You get easy
  • 00:19:05
    views. Views is money. So, if you're a
  • 00:19:08
    struggling site or, you know, need to
  • 00:19:10
    pay the bills, uh, taking that kind of
  • 00:19:12
    deal might seem like a good idea. It
  • 00:19:14
    definitely isn't. Should definitely not
  • 00:19:15
    do it. But that's how it boils down to
  • 00:19:18
    money is views. That's the currency
  • 00:19:19
    there. also not paying off Nvidia
  • 00:19:23
    probably something that a lot of these
  • 00:19:25
    you
  • 00:19:26
    know media outlets don't want to do
  • 00:19:28
    because it risks you know views so they
  • 00:19:31
    get they don't get review samples they
  • 00:19:33
    can't cover the products they don't get
  • 00:19:35
    included in early access so for example
  • 00:19:36
    Nvidia never approached us about uh
  • 00:19:40
    doing an early preview on the RTX 5060
  • 00:19:42
    because they will know our answer on
  • 00:19:44
    that one so they didn't even bother
  • 00:19:45
    approaching us but there are other media
  • 00:19:47
    outlets that yeah are friendlier and
  • 00:19:49
    will do that sort of stuff, but they
  • 00:19:50
    should definitely not do it. Well, yeah,
  • 00:19:53
    it's it's also, you know, sites of our
  • 00:19:55
    size, Hardware Unbox, Gamers Nexus, you
  • 00:19:57
    know, Lionus, there's many different
  • 00:19:59
    ways that we can get review GPUs and
  • 00:20:02
    cards, and we have many contacts in the
  • 00:20:04
    industry, and we're well established.
  • 00:20:05
    So, it's much harder to prevent us from
  • 00:20:08
    doing a review. Whereas one of the
  • 00:20:10
    things we've been really concerned about
  • 00:20:11
    with this in the past has been the
  • 00:20:12
    impact it has on smaller channels where
  • 00:20:15
    they're more reliant on Nvidia directly
  • 00:20:18
    providing the GPUs and hardware that
  • 00:20:20
    they test. And it's not just to be
  • 00:20:22
    included in the day one reviews. It's
  • 00:20:24
    actually to get the product. So we can
  • 00:20:25
    afford to buy RTX5090s if we need to or
  • 00:20:28
    whatever. Um you know again Gamers
  • 00:20:30
    Nexus, same sort of position. But if
  • 00:20:32
    you're just starting out, you don't have
  • 00:20:34
    those kind of budgets. You can't just go
  • 00:20:35
    buy an RTX 5090 and then an RTX 5080 and
  • 00:20:38
    then a 5072i. You're talking about tens
  • 00:20:40
    of thousands of dollars in most
  • 00:20:42
    currencies just to review a product
  • 00:20:44
    line. But we can do that, which is sort
  • 00:20:47
    of the Nvidia knows this and they use
  • 00:20:49
    this information to push out previews to
  • 00:20:52
    these specific outlets and things
  • 00:20:54
    knowing that they might have a better
  • 00:20:56
    chance of running the marketing angles
  • 00:20:58
    on those channels as opposed to a larger
  • 00:21:01
    channel where we've got more options.
  • 00:21:02
    And that's just really toxic. So I I
  • 00:21:04
    just it's very disappointing to see.
  • 00:21:06
    Like I don't like smaller channels being
  • 00:21:09
    put into that position. Like Well, we
  • 00:21:12
    were a smaller channel put in that
  • 00:21:14
    position. Yeah. It's a it's a poor
  • 00:21:16
    position to be put into where you're
  • 00:21:17
    sort of tossing up, do I do this
  • 00:21:18
    potentially dodgy content, or do I lose
  • 00:21:20
    out on my revenue stream, my livelihood
  • 00:21:23
    because I don't have the cards that I
  • 00:21:24
    need to do my job. It's it's not good.
  • 00:21:27
    Yeah. Yeah. Well, early on in the
  • 00:21:29
    creation of our channel, we decided we
  • 00:21:30
    weren't going to work directly in terms
  • 00:21:32
    of sponsorships. So, receive money from
  • 00:21:34
    AMD, Intel, or Nvidia. The core of our
  • 00:21:38
    content was going to be focused around
  • 00:21:39
    those three companies. So, we just
  • 00:21:41
    thought, don't deal with them at all
  • 00:21:43
    directly. So, they have nothing over us
  • 00:21:45
    and they can't manipulate us in any way.
  • 00:21:46
    That was a decision decision we made
  • 00:21:48
    very early on. And of course, we've
  • 00:21:50
    stuck to that. Uh, and the channel was
  • 00:21:53
    much smaller back in it was 2019.
  • 00:21:58
    So, the initial RTX release, you know,
  • 00:22:01
    we covered DLSS, Tim found it wasn't
  • 00:22:03
    very good. Um, said so. The initial ray
  • 00:22:07
    tracing promise, not very good. Didn't
  • 00:22:09
    live up to it. We said so. We weren't
  • 00:22:11
    just repeating Nvidia's marketing
  • 00:22:14
    saying, you know, you want your games to
  • 00:22:15
    be ray traced, you want this, you want
  • 00:22:16
    that. You know, these cards are amazing.
  • 00:22:18
    We were like, well, the value is not
  • 00:22:19
    really here at this point in time.
  • 00:22:21
    Nvidia made it clear to us they were
  • 00:22:23
    very unhappy with that opinion and that
  • 00:22:25
    content and they wanted to change our
  • 00:22:27
    opinion on that. Something we haven't
  • 00:22:28
    talked about on the main channel for
  • 00:22:29
    various reasons. October 2019 I had a
  • 00:22:33
    private meeting with a few Nvidia
  • 00:22:34
    representatives in Australia. They flew
  • 00:22:36
    out from the US and again you know they
  • 00:22:39
    made it known they weren't happy with
  • 00:22:40
    our content what we were doing. We
  • 00:22:42
    weren't including enough DLSS
  • 00:22:43
    benchmarks. we weren't including enough
  • 00:22:44
    rage tracing benchmarks, which you know
  • 00:22:47
    I disagreed with because I thought we
  • 00:22:49
    were showing the technologies uh really
  • 00:22:52
    as they were for for gamers. Anyway,
  • 00:22:55
    long story short, over an hour of trying
  • 00:22:57
    to beat me down on these points and
  • 00:22:59
    being unsuccessful, they essentially
  • 00:23:00
    turned around and said, you know, how
  • 00:23:02
    much can we pay you? So, they wanted us
  • 00:23:04
    to make a DLSS content piece and include
  • 00:23:06
    DLSS and reviews. They essentially said,
  • 00:23:08
    you know, we we can sponsor you. You
  • 00:23:09
    know, we we can help you guys out. uh
  • 00:23:12
    yeah, we can throw money your way and do
  • 00:23:14
    that. And I just flat out refused and
  • 00:23:15
    said, "No, we don't take money from
  • 00:23:17
    Nvidia, AMD, Intel." Uh they weren't
  • 00:23:19
    happy with that. They seemed a bit
  • 00:23:21
    shocked that we were not, you know, we
  • 00:23:24
    turned down money that probably weren't
  • 00:23:26
    expecting that. And that was the end of
  • 00:23:28
    the conversation. And I think from that
  • 00:23:30
    point, they didn't really see a way
  • 00:23:31
    forward with us. So it was about a year
  • 00:23:34
    later that we were reviewing the GeForce
  • 00:23:37
    30 series. RTX 3060 Ti reviews were
  • 00:23:40
    coming up and we'd heard nothing. No
  • 00:23:42
    partners were really talking with us.
  • 00:23:45
    Um, anyone any partners that were
  • 00:23:47
    talking with us said you need to talk to
  • 00:23:48
    Nvidia. Shortly after we got the email,
  • 00:23:51
    which a lot of you will be familiar
  • 00:23:53
    with, the change your editorial
  • 00:23:54
    direction email that uh created a huge
  • 00:23:58
    controversy and quite baffling that that
  • 00:24:01
    situation ever occurred. But basically,
  • 00:24:04
    they couldn't pay us to do uh what they
  • 00:24:06
    wanted us to do. So they attempted to
  • 00:24:08
    remove us from the I guess the GeForce
  • 00:24:10
    review program. So we're familiar with
  • 00:24:12
    these tactics and and we're aware this
  • 00:24:14
    has been going on for a long time. The
  • 00:24:16
    reason why I didn't go film a video
  • 00:24:19
    straight after our private meeting was
  • 00:24:20
    because that you know it was a private
  • 00:24:21
    meeting. The people I had the meeting
  • 00:24:23
    with um are no longer at Nvidia. Most of
  • 00:24:26
    them um the person that offered me the
  • 00:24:28
    money is no longer with Nvidia. They've
  • 00:24:30
    moved on. But it was a private meeting.
  • 00:24:33
    there was no evidence that this really
  • 00:24:34
    took place and therefore it wasn't
  • 00:24:36
    really worth making a content piece. I
  • 00:24:38
    think we discussed it on our private
  • 00:24:39
    Patreon live stream and stuff like that.
  • 00:24:41
    We're a bit more transparent there. Then
  • 00:24:43
    we've seen you know how the tactics
  • 00:24:45
    change and and they are definitely doing
  • 00:24:48
    these sort of tactics actively right now
  • 00:24:50
    to other media. They're trying to
  • 00:24:52
    strongarm them into these multiframe
  • 00:24:54
    generation graphs and stuff like that.
  • 00:24:55
    We're aware that's going on. Uh they
  • 00:24:58
    haven't done that with us. um they
  • 00:24:59
    generally just provide us with the
  • 00:25:00
    samples at this point in time and leave
  • 00:25:02
    us alone. So, which we appreciate.
  • 00:25:04
    That's great. But what we don't
  • 00:25:06
    appreciate is managing to source
  • 00:25:08
    products like an RTX 5060 weeks in
  • 00:25:11
    advance. And we have plenty of time to
  • 00:25:13
    provide you guys with an independent
  • 00:25:15
    review, showing you how the car
  • 00:25:16
    performs, it strengths and weaknesses,
  • 00:25:18
    and them actively barring us from doing
  • 00:25:20
    so. And then, to add insult to injury,
  • 00:25:22
    they're doing these really dodgy
  • 00:25:24
    previews. And then the people who do the
  • 00:25:26
    really dodgy previews are then rewarded
  • 00:25:28
    with the only people that are allowed to
  • 00:25:29
    provide a review. So that's very bad
  • 00:25:32
    situation. Yeah, that's right. And so
  • 00:25:35
    ultimately I think our conclusion is
  • 00:25:37
    very very simple on this one. Don't buy
  • 00:25:39
    the RTX 5060 at this point. Don't buy it
  • 00:25:43
    until there are proper independent
  • 00:25:45
    reviews produced from this card. And
  • 00:25:48
    this is going to be a much more
  • 00:25:49
    difficult situation than previous times.
  • 00:25:51
    There's been previews and this sort of
  • 00:25:53
    manipulation because of all the things
  • 00:25:54
    we've talked about previously. The lack
  • 00:25:55
    of everyone being here in Taipei
  • 00:25:57
    basically cover trying to cover other
  • 00:25:59
    things being unable to test the product.
  • 00:26:02
    And yeah, we just want a video like this
  • 00:26:04
    to be available so that people can
  • 00:26:05
    understand exactly what's going on with
  • 00:26:07
    the RTX 5060 and sort of not just leave
  • 00:26:11
    all that content there, like not just
  • 00:26:13
    leave all the previews, have that be the
  • 00:26:14
    only thing that's related to the 5060
  • 00:26:16
    out
  • 00:26:17
    there. Just we just want a bit more
  • 00:26:19
    transparency on that situation and to be
  • 00:26:21
    very very clear that there's absolutely
  • 00:26:23
    no way that you should be buying this
  • 00:26:24
    product based on preview coverage and
  • 00:26:26
    the cover and the marketing materials
  • 00:26:28
    you would have seen so far from Nvidia
  • 00:26:30
    specifically. and hope like again I'm
  • 00:26:32
    going to say hopefully Nvidia by
  • 00:26:34
    exposing this won't do it again but
  • 00:26:37
    earlier in the video we showed a pretty
  • 00:26:39
    clear timeline where Nvidia over time
  • 00:26:41
    has been getting more aggressive with
  • 00:26:44
    preview type coverage and trying to
  • 00:26:47
    manipulate reviewers and the independent
  • 00:26:49
    media into doing what Nvidia wants. So,
  • 00:26:52
    I think the most concerning part as well
  • 00:26:54
    is every example we can point to, it's
  • 00:26:57
    gotten worse. Mhm. And and a lot of
  • 00:26:59
    these things have been talked about at
  • 00:27:01
    the time. Like there were responses to
  • 00:27:03
    that 8K videos that videos that were
  • 00:27:05
    made pointing out how ludicrous they
  • 00:27:06
    were. There there were responses to
  • 00:27:08
    things like, you know, the 4080 12 GB
  • 00:27:11
    being highly misleading. There were
  • 00:27:12
    responses to, you know, well, there were
  • 00:27:15
    just independent reviews for the 5070
  • 00:27:17
    like a couple of weeks later. And then
  • 00:27:18
    obviously lots of reviewers have been
  • 00:27:20
    talking about the multi-frame generation
  • 00:27:22
    stuff and and all those sorts of things
  • 00:27:24
    in a accurate way. So the fact that all
  • 00:27:27
    that's happened, we keep bringing up
  • 00:27:28
    like, oh, Nvidia is trying to bury 8 GB
  • 00:27:30
    GPUs even though they're still making
  • 00:27:32
    them. And then the next tactic after
  • 00:27:34
    that is 5060 bury that, then do you know
  • 00:27:37
    these previews? What are we going to be
  • 00:27:40
    facing next generation? Like if Nvidia
  • 00:27:43
    is not confident that reviews are going
  • 00:27:45
    to be positive, which and I think that's
  • 00:27:46
    a really key part of these discussions
  • 00:27:48
    is Nvidia doesn't seem very confident in
  • 00:27:50
    these products. They don't seem to
  • 00:27:52
    believe that they're good. So they're
  • 00:27:53
    needing to do more manipulation. If they
  • 00:27:55
    if they release another series that is
  • 00:27:58
    bad, then what are we going to see? Are
  • 00:28:00
    we going to see even more bearing of
  • 00:28:03
    GPUs? Is that going to be for the
  • 00:28:04
    higherend products as well? Are they
  • 00:28:06
    going to focus more on delivering
  • 00:28:08
    content to media platforms that are
  • 00:28:10
    favorable to Nvidia and leaving out
  • 00:28:11
    people who are more independent in their
  • 00:28:14
    thoughts? Um, it's not a good situation
  • 00:28:16
    to be in. But again, like like we sort
  • 00:28:17
    of said, we can highlight this issue and
  • 00:28:19
    then it's probably just going to get
  • 00:28:21
    worse next time. So, I think the issue
  • 00:28:22
    is becoming increasingly timesensitive.
  • 00:28:24
    I really think that gamers need to let
  • 00:28:28
    Nvidia know they're not happy about this
  • 00:28:30
    uh more so than they have been because
  • 00:28:32
    they're really refining this process and
  • 00:28:35
    it's possibly not too far off future
  • 00:28:38
    where Gamers Nexus Harbor and Boxed are
  • 00:28:40
    reviews either we don't have them or
  • 00:28:43
    they're heavily buried because it's not
  • 00:28:45
    difficult for Nvidia to promote these
  • 00:28:47
    previews. It's it's really not difficult
  • 00:28:49
    for them to to boost these uh these
  • 00:28:52
    previews up when you you search for
  • 00:28:54
    content to make them bury everything
  • 00:28:56
    else. And if they see good results from
  • 00:28:58
    doing that, then they are
  • 00:29:00
    disincentivized over time from providing
  • 00:29:02
    the review, you know, drivers or
  • 00:29:04
    hardware to people that again are not
  • 00:29:07
    following the Nvidia script. if they're
  • 00:29:09
    seeing that people are believing reviews
  • 00:29:12
    from those sort of sources and thinking,
  • 00:29:14
    "Oh, I don't need to watch a review from
  • 00:29:16
    a from someone else because I've already
  • 00:29:18
    got all the information from a preview."
  • 00:29:20
    Then they're going to be like, "Well,
  • 00:29:21
    we've already given the, you know, we've
  • 00:29:22
    already done the reviews. They're done.
  • 00:29:24
    Like, all good. So, no need to go any
  • 00:29:27
    further than that." And again, like,
  • 00:29:28
    we're not sitting here. I don't want to
  • 00:29:30
    sit here and whine and complain like,
  • 00:29:31
    "Oh, we're not going to get reviews, not
  • 00:29:33
    be able to do review s not going to get
  • 00:29:35
    review samples or whatever." But I think
  • 00:29:38
    it it goes to the you know an
  • 00:29:39
    independent media is necessary to
  • 00:29:42
    critically evaluate products. It's
  • 00:29:43
    essential in markets like this so that
  • 00:29:46
    at the end of the day consumers are
  • 00:29:47
    getting the best advice. They're not
  • 00:29:49
    wasting money on products that are
  • 00:29:51
    unnecessary and yeah the media is just
  • 00:29:53
    essential for that process and any
  • 00:29:55
    attempts to I don't know manipulate that
  • 00:29:58
    go around things is yeah just not what
  • 00:30:00
    we want to see. We've also started using
  • 00:30:02
    Trix coolers, and I've got to say the
  • 00:30:04
    Panorama SE 360 Black is one of the best
  • 00:30:07
    looking AIO's I've ever seen. The
  • 00:30:09
    quality of the rotatable display is
  • 00:30:11
    incredible, and as complex as the design
  • 00:30:13
    appears, it's remarkably quick and easy
  • 00:30:16
    to install. So, for more information,
  • 00:30:18
    please check the links in the video
  • 00:30:19
    description. Finally, a big thank you to
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    GSkill and Trikes for helping to make
  • 00:30:23
    our Computex trip possible this year.
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    GSkill offers an amazing range of DDR5
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    memory with AMD Expo support allowing
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    you to get the most out of your Ryzen
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    Trident Z5 Neo memory in our test
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    systems for years now as we rely on it
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    to get the best results. We're not
  • 00:30:40
    concerned for ourselves at all in this.
  • 00:30:42
    Like we'll be fine. We'll continue
  • 00:30:45
    making content. It's really about you
  • 00:30:47
    guys getting accurate information. Not
  • 00:30:48
    even necessarily just you guys. It's
  • 00:30:50
    people who will be, you know, future
  • 00:30:52
    gamers. So don't think about right here
  • 00:30:55
    and now 5 years from now people who are
  • 00:30:57
    coming into PC gaming that don't know
  • 00:30:59
    about all the you know Gamers Nexus
  • 00:31:01
    Harbor Unboxed and whoever else. So
  • 00:31:03
    they're looking for sources of
  • 00:31:05
    information and if they're finding these
  • 00:31:08
    propped up sources by Nvidia that are
  • 00:31:10
    essentially propaganda that's not good.
  • 00:31:12
    So and that I can see a future where
  • 00:31:14
    that's very easily uh going to happen.
  • 00:31:17
    So we'll probably just stop there
  • 00:31:19
    because we could continue talking about
  • 00:31:20
    this subject for quite a while. I'm sure
  • 00:31:22
    we'll have more to say about it in other
  • 00:31:23
    Computex coverage that'll be coming up
  • 00:31:25
    later in the week. So, we'll leave it
  • 00:31:28
    there. We really just wanted to address
  • 00:31:29
    this soon after those previews went out.
  • 00:31:32
    Again, probably not something that's
  • 00:31:34
    going to suck in a lot of you guys, but
  • 00:31:36
    it's still a tactic that we want to see
  • 00:31:38
    stopped from Nvidia. And again, it's
  • 00:31:40
    it's looking like they're wanting to
  • 00:31:41
    head in the other direction with it. So,
  • 00:31:43
    anyway, that's really all we've got to
  • 00:31:44
    say right now, or that we should say
  • 00:31:46
    right now, cuz we don't want to drag
  • 00:31:47
    this video out too much more than what
  • 00:31:50
    we have. So yeah, we'll see what happens
  • 00:31:53
    with these RTX 5060 reviews and we'll
  • 00:31:55
    see how quickly we can get ours out. Um,
  • 00:31:57
    as I said, we've got a few things that
  • 00:31:59
    we're trying to make happen, but quite
  • 00:32:01
    difficult being over here in Taiwan. But
  • 00:32:04
    anyway, thanks for watching. I'm your
  • 00:32:05
    host Steve. I'm your host Tim. See you
  • 00:32:07
    again next time.
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