How I Learned 9 Languages (You Can Too!) | Polyglot’s Secrets for Fast Fluency! | Evolve Podcast
Zusammenfassung
TLDREn aquest episodi, Will John, un poliglota i futbolista professional, comparteix la seva experiència en l'aprenentatge de diverses llengües. Explica que la clau per convertir-se en poliglota és la dedicació i la disciplina, així com l'exposició constant a l'idioma. Will recomana utilitzar recursos comprensibles i no tenir por de cometre errors. A més, destaca la importància de l'emoció en l'aprenentatge i com les tecnologies modernes poden ajudar en el procés. Finalment, anima a tothom a gaudir del viatge d'aprenentatge i a buscar connexions humanes a través de les llengües.
Mitbringsel
- 🌍 Will John parla diverses llengües: espanyol, francès, italià, danès, suec, croat, rus, alemany i anglès.
- 📚 La disciplina és clau per a l'aprenentatge d'idiomes.
- 🗣️ No tinguis por de cometre errors; són part del procés d'aprenentatge.
- 💻 Utilitza la tecnologia i recursos en línia per millorar les teves habilitats lingüístiques.
- 🎧 L'exposició constant a l'idioma és essencial per a l'aprenentatge efectiu.
- 💡 Busca entendre i ser entès en les converses.
- 🕒 El matí és el millor moment per aprendre idiomes.
- 🎉 Gaudeix del viatge d'aprenentatge i busca connexions humanes.
- 📖 La lectura i l'escolta són fonamentals per adquirir vocabulari.
- 🤖 No depenguis només d'aplicacions; combina-les amb altres mètodes d'aprenentatge.
Zeitleiste
- 00:00:00 - 00:05:00
L'entrevistador pregunta a Will John quantes llengües parla i com va aconseguir ser poliglota. Will menciona que parla diverses llengües i destaca la importància de la pràctica constant, com ara utilitzar aplicacions i parlar amb amics d'IA, tot i que adverteix que no s'ha de confondre l'aprenentatge seriós amb el simple joc.
- 00:05:00 - 00:10:00
Will explica que hi ha una gran diferència entre voler ser poliglota i aprendre només una llengua. Recomana dedicar temps a l'aprenentatge i menciona Kato Lom, una traductora que creu que si no es pot dedicar almenys 12 hores a la setmana, potser no és el moment adequat per començar. També destaca la importància de l'input comprensible per aprendre.
- 00:10:00 - 00:15:00
Will parla sobre la importància de l'exposició constant a la llengua en contextos significatius. Comenta que la majoria de la gent vol resultats ràpids, però que l'aprenentatge de llengües requereix temps i repetició. Recomana evitar la sobrecàrrega d'informació i centrar-se en materials adequats per al nivell de l'aprenent.
- 00:15:00 - 00:20:00
Will destaca que per ser poliglota cal tenir paciència i dedicar temps a cada llengua. Recomana establir una estructura d'aprenentatge i no esperar resultats immediats. Parla de la importància de l'exposició a la llengua i de com la disciplina és clau per a l'aprenentatge.
- 00:20:00 - 00:25:00
Will afirma que és possible aprendre una llengua sense traslladar-se al país on es parla. Comenta que ara hi ha moltes eines disponibles, com diccionaris i tutors en línia, que faciliten l'aprenentatge. Destaca que no hi ha excuses per no aprendre.
- 00:25:00 - 00:30:00
Will parla sobre la importància de la disciplina en l'aprenentatge de llengües i com ha estat influenciat per valors culturals. Recomana establir una rutina d'aprenentatge i dedicar temps a l'estudi de la llengua, preferiblement al matí quan la ment està fresca.
- 00:30:00 - 00:35:00
Will explica que la rutina d'aprenentatge ha de ser part de la vida diària i no només un hobby. Parla de la importància de l'input comprensible i de com la immersió en la llengua ajuda a millorar les habilitats de comunicació.
- 00:35:00 - 00:40:00
Will destaca que l'aprenentatge passiu, com veure pel·lícules o escoltar música, pot ser útil, però que cal dedicar temps a l'aprenentatge actiu. Comenta que la repetició i la pràctica són essencials per a l'aprenentatge efectiu.
- 00:40:00 - 00:48:54
Will parla sobre la importància de fer errors i com aquests ajuden a consolidar l'aprenentatge. Comenta que és normal cometre errors i que cal acceptar-los com a part del procés d'aprenentatge. La clau és seguir practicant i no tenir por de parlar.
Mind Map
Video-Fragen und Antworten
Quines llengües parles?
Parlo espanyol, francès, italià, danès, suec, croat, rus, alemany i anglès.
Quins consells dónes per aprendre idiomes?
Dedica temps a l'exposició a l'idioma, utilitza recursos comprensibles i no tinguis por de cometre errors.
És possible aprendre un idioma sense viure al país?
Sí, és possible aprendre un idioma sense viure al país, gràcies a les tecnologies modernes i recursos en línia.
Quina és la importància de la disciplina en l'aprenentatge d'idiomes?
La disciplina és clau per establir una rutina d'aprenentatge i per fer progressos constants.
Com es pot millorar l'accent en un nou idioma?
Practicar la imitació de l'accent i la intonació, així com rebre retroalimentació d'altres.
Quin paper juguen les emocions en l'aprenentatge d'idiomes?
Les emocions ajuden a recordar millor les paraules i les experiències d'aprenentatge.
Quin és el millor moment del dia per aprendre idiomes?
El matí és el millor moment per aprendre, ja que la ment està més fresca.
Quina és la diferència entre aprendre un idioma i ser poliglota?
Aprendre un idioma pot ser més senzill, mentre que ser poliglota requereix dedicació i temps per dominar diverses llengües.
Com es pot utilitzar la tecnologia per aprendre idiomes?
Utilitzar aplicacions d'aprenentatge, tutors en línia i recursos d'IA per crear contingut comprensible.
Quin és el consell més important per a qui vol aprendre un nou idioma?
Buscar entendre i ser entès, gaudir del procés d'aprenentatge.
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- 00:00:00How many languages do you actually
- 00:00:01speak? Spanish, French, Italian, Danish,
- 00:00:03Swedish, Croatian, Russian, German, and
- 00:00:06English. How did you actually become a
- 00:00:08polyglo? 10 hours a day doing
- 00:00:09Duallingingo, then talk to your AI
- 00:00:11friend. Never listen to the language.
- 00:00:13Guys, don't do that.
- 00:00:17Welcome back to Evolve. Today we are
- 00:00:19speaking with Will John, a polyglot and
- 00:00:22professional footballer. Will, thank you
- 00:00:24so much for coming on the podcast today.
- 00:00:26Of course. Thanks for having me. It's
- 00:00:27good to be here. Do you want to show off
- 00:00:28a little bit of those? Maybe introduce
- 00:00:30yourself uh if you've got enough time to
- 00:00:32go through. I mean I mean Yeah. And what
- 00:00:34uh I could start with the
- 00:00:38east.
- 00:00:52Okay. Okay.
- 00:00:57Okay. Okay.
- 00:01:10[Music]
- 00:01:38Yeah, that's right. The dance, man. The
- 00:01:41dance. The Danes can understand the
- 00:01:44Swedes. Okay. Swedes cannot understand
- 00:01:45the Danes. Swedish is, you know,
- 00:01:49we can feel the passion there. I've
- 00:01:50clicked on this video. I want to be, you
- 00:01:52know, a polyglot. What are the steps
- 00:01:55that you would recommend to someone who
- 00:01:57wants to follow in your footsteps? Wow.
- 00:01:59So, there's a big difference between if
- 00:02:00you want to be a polyglot or if you just
- 00:02:02want to learn one other language because
- 00:02:04they are very separate. Now, starting
- 00:02:06off, if you just want to learn another
- 00:02:07language, what I recommend is to spend
- 00:02:1110 hours a day doing Duallingingo, then
- 00:02:13talk to your AI friend for the next 20,
- 00:02:1620 minutes. Never listen to the
- 00:02:17language. No, of course, guys, don't do
- 00:02:20that. Okay, apps are a new phenomenon on
- 00:02:23Earth. Okay, people have been learning
- 00:02:25languages for a very, very long time.
- 00:02:27One of my favorite polyglotss is a is a
- 00:02:28woman named Kato Lom. She's a Hungarian.
- 00:02:30She was a translator, very, very
- 00:02:33outspoken woman. She wrote a book. It's
- 00:02:35called How I Learn Languages. She's one
- 00:02:36of my favorite for a lot of reasons. Um
- 00:02:38because she's kind of nonsense. She'll
- 00:02:40tell people, and I agree with this, if
- 00:02:41you don't have 12 hours a week to learn
- 00:02:44a language, it may not be the the right
- 00:02:46time for you to start. That's if you
- 00:02:48want to speak, you know, if if you want
- 00:02:49to dabble and play a little Duolingo and
- 00:02:51learn I am an apple that eats a dragon,
- 00:02:52go for it. That's fine. But understand
- 00:02:54that you're just playing a game, you
- 00:02:55know, that's what it is. Have fun with
- 00:02:56it. And there's nothing wrong with that.
- 00:02:58There's absolutely nothing wrong. Just
- 00:02:59don't confuse the two. And I think
- 00:03:00that's where the people have the
- 00:03:01problem. So if you want to if you want
- 00:03:03to learn a language, it's quite clear
- 00:03:05that most people understand
- 00:03:06comprehensible input. At least for the
- 00:03:08people who don't know what it is. I know
- 00:03:09people fans of you guys, you know,
- 00:03:11channel and podcast probably understand,
- 00:03:12but it's an important key element. Uh
- 00:03:15the reason for this is not necessarily
- 00:03:17because it mimics how we learned as
- 00:03:19kids, but uh also because it gets you
- 00:03:21more exposure to a language. So I want
- 00:03:23to start with an overarching principle.
- 00:03:24The more exposure you have to a language
- 00:03:26in context, the easier it will be for
- 00:03:28you to learn on the long game. I know
- 00:03:30everyone if you've clicked on this video
- 00:03:31for the how to learn a language in 7
- 00:03:33days I'm sorry or in 3 months I'm sorry
- 00:03:36that's while possible if you have
- 00:03:38nothing else to do in life I think
- 00:03:39that's possible you need to have as much
- 00:03:41exposure to the language as you can at
- 00:03:43the level that you're currently at right
- 00:03:45so big mistakes are I've already
- 00:03:46discussed the apps I won't go in on them
- 00:03:48I probably will still talk talk trash on
- 00:03:50them later but there's no need for you
- 00:03:51to to watch the news on day one of
- 00:03:53Spanish class all right let's leave that
- 00:03:56leave that alone okay there are things
- 00:03:57that are made for you right and and
- 00:03:59Bring it back to Katalom. We have graded
- 00:04:01readers now, right? So reading,
- 00:04:03listening, and watching are some of the
- 00:04:05main the main aspects. Writing less so
- 00:04:07at the beginning in my opinion, you do
- 00:04:09need to do some of this, but you need to
- 00:04:10spend a a hell of a lot of time
- 00:04:13listening, watching preferably of people
- 00:04:16talking and doing things that you can
- 00:04:17understand. Awa. Okay. Awa. Like it's
- 00:04:20going to be hard for you not to
- 00:04:21understand. The problem is we live in a
- 00:04:23society where people want to be rushed.
- 00:04:25Everything wants to be rushed. And if
- 00:04:26you don't let this repeat because no one
- 00:04:28likes to repeat anything. The reason the
- 00:04:30apps and things are everyone if you're
- 00:04:32familiar with the book called the
- 00:04:33dopamine revolution we just want to go
- 00:04:35to the next thing. Well you need to
- 00:04:36repeat if I told you awa once maybe you
- 00:04:39know if I take the aua and I smash you
- 00:04:41on the head every day you know but not
- 00:04:43even every day. I think the it's the
- 00:04:45emotion it's the emotional aspect of
- 00:04:47that your ability to tie emotion into
- 00:04:49your learning will allow you to do it.
- 00:04:51Right? If someone's beating you and
- 00:04:53punching you in the face and they keep
- 00:04:54saying this word that means stop, right,
- 00:04:56in a language, the chances of you ever
- 00:04:58forgetting that word are zero. You will
- 00:05:01remember as he's pummeling you in the
- 00:05:03face that that is the word for stop. All
- 00:05:04right? And so you have to elicit emotion
- 00:05:06and you have to have repetition. If you
- 00:05:08do those two things and you have to you
- 00:05:09have to be able to understand the
- 00:05:10context. That's the beginning, right? So
- 00:05:12that's someone wants to learn. If you
- 00:05:14want to be a polyglot, then you need to
- 00:05:15have patience because you need to focus
- 00:05:17on one language for a long enough period
- 00:05:19of time to reach I don't really like the
- 00:05:21standard things, but let's call it B1,
- 00:05:22B2. If you can reach this B1, B2, you
- 00:05:25have a less of a chance of forgetting
- 00:05:26the language. You have more of a chance
- 00:05:28of just going rusty, right? And so when
- 00:05:30you pick it up, it'll come maybe one
- 00:05:31day, two days, a week. And so you have
- 00:05:34to lay out a structure for yourself. And
- 00:05:35that's that's what I do. I mean, I'm
- 00:05:36giving you guys both options just so
- 00:05:38people have an understanding of what I
- 00:05:39mean, if you want to go deeper into like
- 00:05:41what what I would do on day one to month
- 00:05:43one, etc. We can, but that's how you
- 00:05:46would kind of need to look at things as
- 00:05:47an overarching strategy. Do you think
- 00:05:49it's possible to become a polygot
- 00:05:50without moving to the country where they
- 00:05:52speak the language? I'm literally proof
- 00:05:53of that. Yes. There's no now in modern
- 00:05:55times, you know, Katalom, it's
- 00:05:57hilarious. In her book, she's going,
- 00:05:58"Make sure you find a good dictionary.
- 00:06:01We have every dictionary that's ever
- 00:06:02been made in all this. We have now in
- 00:06:04our in our phone. There's no excuse for
- 00:06:06you to do that. You don't need to be
- 00:06:08there. You have tutors. Excuse time is
- 00:06:11over. If you're trying to learn a new
- 00:06:13language, you don't have an excuse. What
- 00:06:15is the exc what are you talking about?
- 00:06:17Like, oh, I don't Okay, if you don't
- 00:06:18have time, that's kind of on you. But
- 00:06:20that can be, you know, that can be
- 00:06:22managed. That's adaptable. But as far as
- 00:06:24needing to move to France, those days
- 00:06:26are done. Especially if we, you know,
- 00:06:28it's a blessing being in somewhere like
- 00:06:30the UK or the US. I mean, I got to
- 00:06:32fluency level in French before doing my
- 00:06:34year abroad in Reunion Island down to
- 00:06:36that obsession of every time I met a
- 00:06:38French
- 00:06:40person, you know, like we're going to
- 00:06:42speak we're going to speak in French. I
- 00:06:43tell people I don't speak English, you
- 00:06:45know, you're forced into that. I've
- 00:06:47never spent more than a couple weeks, I
- 00:06:49guess, in a Spanish-sp speakaking
- 00:06:50country, but if there's someone who's
- 00:06:52Spanish, you know, that's
- 00:06:56it. We're going to speak because that's
- 00:06:58how you improve. Mhm. So that's that's
- 00:07:00the blessing again going back to living
- 00:07:02in a diverse country. You
- 00:07:06know the discipline aspect is tough for
- 00:07:08everyone. At the one end you can say
- 00:07:10that there are no excuses. At the other
- 00:07:11end I know that our brains are being
- 00:07:13attacked every single second. Every time
- 00:07:15we pick up our phone you're under
- 00:07:16attack. Something is calling for you to
- 00:07:19do something else. And isn't that
- 00:07:20amazing though? Like if you take a
- 00:07:22second and believe you might have picked
- 00:07:23up the phone to just check an email. You
- 00:07:25were watching crazy knockout videos by
- 00:07:28the you seen the soccer the guy went to
- 00:07:30a moon like this and you put the phone
- 00:07:32down and then you realize oh yeah I
- 00:07:34didn't pick up didn't even check the
- 00:07:36email what like what are we doing you
- 00:07:39know it's that's a that's a massive
- 00:07:40that's a massive problem so discipline
- 00:07:41is needed you know you do need to have
- 00:07:44some discipline the drive the more you
- 00:07:45want it the easier it will it will be
- 00:07:47but we teach our students about
- 00:07:50eliminating if you can eliminate there's
- 00:07:52so much noise there's so much
- 00:07:53information so many things. If we can
- 00:07:55just reduce the chatter, all right, and
- 00:07:58just have okay, if I can just engage
- 00:08:00with this content here today, put it
- 00:08:02down and this is I have a plan for
- 00:08:04tomorrow, then you are making forward
- 00:08:06progress without having to second guess
- 00:08:07to concern yourself to try and get the
- 00:08:09next heart on the app to next do get the
- 00:08:11points and your original goal is to
- 00:08:13learn French. Why do you care about your
- 00:08:1430-day streak? What do you that's not
- 00:08:16the point. The point is for you after 30
- 00:08:18days to be better at speaking, you know,
- 00:08:20or reading or whatever your goal is to
- 00:08:21read this book, to watch this movie. So
- 00:08:23yeah, discipline plays a key role, but I
- 00:08:25think everyone should be aware of kind
- 00:08:27of eliminating the noise as much as they
- 00:08:29can. I made some notes based on some of
- 00:08:31your your videos of key areas that I
- 00:08:33think stood out and discipline was one
- 00:08:35of those. I wanted to ask how did you
- 00:08:37build that discipline into your routine?
- 00:08:39I know we'll probably mention that in
- 00:08:40the video about your football career as
- 00:08:42well, but I mean for me discipline was
- 00:08:44instilled a lot with the West African
- 00:08:46and Asian values. Did that come into
- 00:08:48play at all as well with the kind of
- 00:08:49Nigerian upbringing? 100% 100%. I mean
- 00:08:52yes. Yeah, that discipline plays a huge
- 00:08:54role. You understand that the right
- 00:08:56thing to do would be to do your work
- 00:08:58first and enjoy later. How does that
- 00:09:00actually translate into a language
- 00:09:01learning routine? Oh, if you want a
- 00:09:03routine, then that's very simple. I
- 00:09:05mean, obviously, like I said with kalom,
- 00:09:06if you don't have 12 hours, then forget
- 00:09:08it. I think that that can be reduced now
- 00:09:10because of what we have with our tools
- 00:09:11to something like 8 to 10, right? That
- 00:09:13if you don't have 8 to 10 hours a week,
- 00:09:15which is barely above an hour a day, all
- 00:09:17right? Then you shouldn't do it. In the
- 00:09:18morning is when I suggest to everyone
- 00:09:20that they should be at least starting to
- 00:09:22learn a language. You have you can check
- 00:09:23all the studies right some people can
- 00:09:25learn at night after they've done most
- 00:09:27people are expending energy throughout
- 00:09:28the day and then potentially trying to
- 00:09:30fit in language learning when they can
- 00:09:32after this unfocused. If you want to
- 00:09:34understand a proper routine you need to
- 00:09:36understand and this is what we do for
- 00:09:36people in our artificial immersion
- 00:09:38course. We make them understand the
- 00:09:39rules of deep work. Deep work by Cal
- 00:09:41Newport. It's a book. The phone has to
- 00:09:42go out of the room. You have to be
- 00:09:44uninterrupted. And this is a skill cuz
- 00:09:46what you're training with your phone is
- 00:09:48to be distracted. And what you're
- 00:09:49training without it is concentration.
- 00:09:50Yeah. 30 minutes to an hour in the
- 00:09:52morning, generally speaking, I like to
- 00:09:54make sure that that's your
- 00:09:55comprehensible input that you're you're
- 00:09:56taking something in. Later in the day,
- 00:09:58it's definitely fine in in the evening,
- 00:10:01etc. to be watching something on Netflix
- 00:10:02that you don't care about or stuff like
- 00:10:04that. But the bulk of your learning has
- 00:10:05to happen for me before your energy has
- 00:10:08been expended. And so that's the
- 00:10:09problem. People are trying to fit
- 00:10:10language learning in rather than making
- 00:10:12it part of their lives. The routine is
- 00:10:13to change your life, not to make it a
- 00:10:16hobby. Make it part of your life.
- 00:10:18There's no other way to do it. You
- 00:10:19forced yourself to in these
- 00:10:21conversations. I only speak,
- 00:10:24okay? You know, but yeah, that's the
- 00:10:26point of the routine. It's got to
- 00:10:27change. You have to change. All right?
- 00:10:28You know, it's not a no wishy-washy
- 00:10:30stuff, you know. It'll just take it'll
- 00:10:32make you take long. You might get there.
- 00:10:33You'll get there, but who wants to learn
- 00:10:34a language over 15 years? But I really
- 00:10:36appreciate that even the for example,
- 00:10:38you what was the term you use for like
- 00:10:39the Netflix um when you're it's not the
- 00:10:41comprehensible input. It's just uh is
- 00:10:43that passive learning? What do you refer
- 00:10:44to that as? Yeah, pass. Yeah, it's
- 00:10:45passive learning. It's passive for me.
- 00:10:47Like I was a a big gamer in the past. I
- 00:10:50replayed Pokémon in French and Spanish.
- 00:10:53But then that was part of the routine.
- 00:10:55So even though it sounds strange that
- 00:10:56Pokémon was a routine part of my
- 00:10:59language learning, if at every night you
- 00:11:01did whether it was like watched the news
- 00:11:02or did something routinely, you're going
- 00:11:04to see the gains. Whereas if it's like,
- 00:11:06oh, I watched the movie once in French,
- 00:11:09you're not going to get that. And for me
- 00:11:11it was actually the news. When I was
- 00:11:13doing uh French at university, we had a
- 00:11:15course called advanced oral competency.
- 00:11:18We had to listen to the news and then
- 00:11:19provide a summary of that. And at the
- 00:11:21start that was so difficult. So I gave
- 00:11:23myself the challenge of every day. You
- 00:11:25know, this wasn't just a once in a while
- 00:11:26thing. This every day when I got home,
- 00:11:28news goes on in French. Yeah. And then
- 00:11:30at the start it was really really
- 00:11:31difficult. But after I guess two
- 00:11:33semesters of doing that, I could just
- 00:11:35understand 90%. Um but that was there
- 00:11:37was a discipline in that passive
- 00:11:39learning skills. Definitely. Definitely.
- 00:11:40Yeah. And that's the thing is that
- 00:11:41people don't give that a chance, right?
- 00:11:42You said two semesters, that's roughly a
- 00:11:44year, right? And people to have the
- 00:11:46discipline to do that, it's almost
- 00:11:47effortless after you've done it, right?
- 00:11:50Yes. The initial charge of you having to
- 00:11:52sit and watch the news and you know your
- 00:11:54comprehension may be between 60, maybe
- 00:11:55it's 70%, maybe it's 80%, who knows? But
- 00:11:57as you do that, it's the repetition of
- 00:11:59also the same types of material. They're
- 00:12:02the news, they're going to say some of
- 00:12:04the same things. They're going to
- 00:12:05introduce themselves the same. you're
- 00:12:06going to be introduced to that those
- 00:12:07words, those key elements over and over
- 00:12:09again. And if you do that, you do
- 00:12:11eventually it does come out of you.
- 00:12:13That's one of the crazy things about
- 00:12:14using it. And we haven't touched on the
- 00:12:16big no grammar versus grammar debate,
- 00:12:18you know, and at least where I stand is
- 00:12:21at the beginning, ease up on the
- 00:12:22grammar, obviously, if you want to have
- 00:12:24a superficial glance, which is what we
- 00:12:25teach students, by all means, you know,
- 00:12:28but don't do the thing that you would do
- 00:12:30with your phone and get on the the
- 00:12:31articles. Where is this specific? And
- 00:12:34then you're now you're just studying
- 00:12:35grammar. You're not learning the
- 00:12:36language. You're studying rules, right?
- 00:12:38And you would never do that if you was
- 00:12:39going to teach someone football. I'm not
- 00:12:40going to take 20 minutes to explain what
- 00:12:41offsides. And another controversial area
- 00:12:43is vocab. You know, studying vocab. This
- 00:12:46triggers a lot of people in my
- 00:12:48experience as an online tutor. Just a
- 00:12:50quick message before we get back to the
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- 00:15:23Hello video. And also, you know, working
- 00:15:26with a lot of Asians, there's I guess
- 00:15:29you got to respect the discipline of
- 00:15:30people for hours every day memorizing
- 00:15:33vocab. But where do you stand on this
- 00:15:35debate of V? I mean, I know I've seen
- 00:15:37you probably have an idea, but yeah, the
- 00:15:39thing is is that brute force works. It
- 00:15:41does work. You know, that's the thing.
- 00:15:43It It's true. the majority of people,
- 00:15:45especially the American culture
- 00:15:47specifically which we're teaching and I
- 00:15:48will keep referring to Katom, but she
- 00:15:50makes fun of Americans because they want
- 00:15:52things easy and and she goes they're
- 00:15:54lazy in this. She said not lazy as
- 00:15:55people like yes clearly they're
- 00:15:56hardworking American people but the way
- 00:15:58that things are promoted America can
- 00:16:00take some blame for the how to learn a
- 00:16:02language in 3 days, 5 days, etc. That's
- 00:16:04American marketing is almost second to
- 00:16:06none on earth, right? They push their
- 00:16:08ideas out to, you know, there's kids in
- 00:16:12the middle of nowhere. they barely know
- 00:16:13anything. They're going to recognize
- 00:16:14some American star based on the
- 00:16:16marketing, based on the push. And so
- 00:16:18vocab for me, brute force works, but
- 00:16:20it's not the best way to go about it. If
- 00:16:21you want to go about language learning,
- 00:16:23you need flow. And the way we teach
- 00:16:24people is that we give them an
- 00:16:25understanding of, let's take reading,
- 00:16:27right? A lot of your gains on your vocab
- 00:16:29come from reading. Most people don't
- 00:16:30understand this. Particularly, the
- 00:16:32amount of exposure you have to words in
- 00:16:34a movie compared to what you have in a
- 00:16:36book is night and day. All right? It's
- 00:16:37night and day. If you can just count
- 00:16:39them, count them. Watch all the watch
- 00:16:41one minute of a of a movie. You'll see
- 00:16:43that the music plays and the person
- 00:16:44walked and all this stuff and right and
- 00:16:46then they might talk and then they have
- 00:16:48some silence and then you're not hitting
- 00:16:50all of the vocab that you could be. A
- 00:16:51lot of gains come from reading and this
- 00:16:53is even in your mother tongue. There
- 00:16:54have been studies as well to see that
- 00:16:56when kids let's say go to college that
- 00:16:58reading that they have to do and all
- 00:16:59that stuff you have words that you've
- 00:17:00never taken a flash card and I go hard
- 00:17:02on flash cards because it's like yeah
- 00:17:04well you didn't do that in your mother
- 00:17:05tongue. It's really important I think
- 00:17:07that people don't count words at the
- 00:17:09beginning. However, that they have an
- 00:17:11understanding that there are
- 00:17:12highfrequency words if that makes sense.
- 00:17:14So like there are words that are more
- 00:17:15important that you should pay attention
- 00:17:16to. You should try to know but I don't
- 00:17:18want you to become obsessed with that.
- 00:17:20You don't use all the words in a
- 00:17:21language. You have a core and then you
- 00:17:23have a particular you like football, he
- 00:17:24likes basketball, he likes baseball,
- 00:17:26your vocab is better in in that and this
- 00:17:28and that and that and then you need to
- 00:17:29run down that and they're high frequency
- 00:17:30words for the things that you care
- 00:17:32about. And so the vocab thing is with
- 00:17:34extensive reading, what I wanted to say
- 00:17:35about that at least is extensive reading
- 00:17:36when you read just to read, it's great
- 00:17:38and you're just taking it in. Intensive
- 00:17:39reading, when you go to read something
- 00:17:41that's hard and then have to translate
- 00:17:42and go back and look is also very
- 00:17:44useful. It's just you should spend more
- 00:17:46time doing the extensive reading. If
- 00:17:47you're a new language learner to build
- 00:17:48on what you said, it can be quite
- 00:17:50demotivating to know that I've just
- 00:17:52spent 10 hours this week studying a
- 00:17:54bunch of words and now suddenly I meet
- 00:17:56whatever person in front of me. I can't
- 00:17:58string a sentence or like a useful
- 00:17:59sentence together.
- 00:18:08rewarding have you eaten in English
- 00:18:11isn't as I guess common a question
- 00:18:13compared to the Asian languages whereas
- 00:18:15if you meet a Chinese
- 00:18:17person in Korean
- 00:18:20orang in Thai those are common questions
- 00:18:22you ask as soon as you meet someone and
- 00:18:24you're going to get a really positive
- 00:18:26reaction from them that would motivate a
- 00:18:28new learner I think in my opinion far
- 00:18:30more than table, microphone, whatever,
- 00:18:32which you you will need at some point.
- 00:18:34But I feel like once you're in that
- 00:18:36practical situation, whereas if you're
- 00:18:38filming a podcast and we're speaking in
- 00:18:39French, again, eventually you're just
- 00:18:41going to learn that's Miko because you
- 00:18:43will hear it every day. Whereas if you
- 00:18:45work in, I don't know, as a footballer
- 00:18:46on your day-to-day thing, you're going
- 00:18:48to learn o before you learn Miko
- 00:18:50probably, you know. So the practicality,
- 00:18:52the context you're wanting to use that
- 00:18:54language in again is essential as well.
- 00:18:56you're you're touching on uh the key
- 00:18:57element of our the artificial immersion
- 00:18:59method, which is to tie it into you.
- 00:19:01Like, how is it not? That's my problem.
- 00:19:03I will continue to go in hard on these
- 00:19:04apps, but they don't know you. They
- 00:19:06don't they've never met you. They met a
- 00:19:08they met a composite of humans and they
- 00:19:11decided this should this would be all
- 00:19:12right. Do you really want that? Is that
- 00:19:13what you is that what you want? Or do
- 00:19:14you want it to be about you? Like you
- 00:19:16just said, you're in the podcast. You
- 00:19:17understand? I think that if you take
- 00:19:18things like that and you touch on
- 00:19:19another thing is the fact that in the
- 00:19:21early days before I had a structural
- 00:19:22method phrases were important for me to
- 00:19:25learn but not any phrase phrases that I
- 00:19:27knew I would need immediately and so I
- 00:19:29still recommend for some people because
- 00:19:31it gives them that win like you talked
- 00:19:32about how many people have tried to
- 00:19:34learn a language and failed right you
- 00:19:36need a couple wins at least a few
- 00:19:38interactions that feel like oh my god I
- 00:19:40did something instead of you study table
- 00:19:42and then phone and microphone and bottle
- 00:19:44and then you just like have these words
- 00:19:46there. What is that conversation? Hey,
- 00:19:48how you doing? Bottle bottle
- 00:19:51phone. Do you need a call or like what
- 00:19:53is up, you know? And so it's like, yeah,
- 00:19:55dude, there's got to be it's got to be
- 00:19:57attached to real to the real world. I
- 00:19:59think that links I mean there's a funny
- 00:20:00side of this. But again, another key
- 00:20:02point I saw you highlight in your other
- 00:20:04videos was about looking stupid and
- 00:20:06making mistakes. And I mean, for me, you
- 00:20:08can't master a language or anything in
- 00:20:10life without making mistakes and
- 00:20:12stumbling and and whatever, making a
- 00:20:13fool of yourself at some point as well.
- 00:20:15But to link it to what you said about
- 00:20:16emotion, you probably have memories of
- 00:20:19where you made a mistake in the language
- 00:20:20and said the wrong word, but now you're
- 00:20:22never going to forget that. That's like
- 00:20:24one of the best ways to solidify ah I
- 00:20:26said that that was offensive actually it
- 00:20:27should have been this word. So could you
- 00:20:28tell us about that? I can tell you
- 00:20:30what's even more interesting because
- 00:20:31yeah I constantly make I don't have a
- 00:20:33problem with that and I live a very my
- 00:20:35professional life let's say outside of
- 00:20:37football says I've a lot of professions
- 00:20:39it's very public. I'm speaking in front
- 00:20:41of people, right, in other languages
- 00:20:43that are not my mother tongue. Mistakes
- 00:20:45are going to happen no matter how much
- 00:20:46I've spent time there. Most of the time
- 00:20:48they're small and so small that I'm
- 00:20:50never going to say, you know, uh, that
- 00:20:52this is a bottle, right? That's stuff
- 00:20:54like that doesn't happen. But the stakes
- 00:20:56are much higher for me than they would
- 00:20:57be for someone who's just learning a
- 00:20:58language. So, you don't have to worry
- 00:20:59about this. Like, I actually don't care
- 00:21:01because it just turns into something.
- 00:21:02But to give you an example, I was in
- 00:21:04Milan a couple years ago. This video is
- 00:21:06on online and I'm just talking to
- 00:21:08Italian people about Italian-Americans
- 00:21:10and the the most beautiful cities in
- 00:21:12Italy. Like those are the two questions
- 00:21:14basically. I was telling a couple people
- 00:21:16I think it's several times that it
- 00:21:20was I
- 00:21:23said I think I saidim and the word is
- 00:21:27for seventh and the word isimo. Okay.
- 00:21:29Okay. I said that in the video, right?
- 00:21:31Yeah. Yeah. Barrage of comments. What is
- 00:21:34this? you don't know that it's this.
- 00:21:36Come on. Like, and then you have other
- 00:21:38people being like, "Dude, do you realize
- 00:21:39that this guy who's never he's saying
- 00:21:41that it's his seventh day in the country
- 00:21:43you guys are harping on him on this?"
- 00:21:45So, like, there's always going to be
- 00:21:46both sides. I've been a professional
- 00:21:47athlete since I was 19. You know, you
- 00:21:49miss a pass in front of like I've played
- 00:21:51in front of I don't even know how many
- 00:21:53like massive stadiums. It's like you
- 00:21:55miss some stuff, people are going to
- 00:21:56scream, "Get off the field. You suck. I
- 00:21:59hate you." Like, what? Like, you know,
- 00:22:02like all this stuff. So for me it's I
- 00:22:04understand but I do understand the other
- 00:22:06the other people like they don't want to
- 00:22:07make any mistakes but you just have to
- 00:22:09be okay with that and you know number
- 00:22:11one people forget it. They forget this
- 00:22:13and you will forget it too. And if you
- 00:22:14if once you make the mistake you
- 00:22:16remember I I know that and I even knew
- 00:22:18in that time but it's just you're moving
- 00:22:20fast and stuff like that. So mistakes
- 00:22:21happen. It's crucial to it because even
- 00:22:23in Korea with Clem, I remember we went
- 00:22:25to a restaurant, the owner came up to us
- 00:22:26and asked how the food was and I said to
- 00:22:30him and like
- 00:22:33got to be formal, you know, just use the
- 00:22:35formal word because I've got that vivid
- 00:22:38memory of him telling me off. I can
- 00:22:40never forget that, you know. So there
- 00:22:41you go. Yeah. Yeah. Cuz you were about
- 00:22:43to get kicked out.
- 00:22:45But there is often a leniency, you know,
- 00:22:47to obviously you're not, you know, you
- 00:22:49tell them you're from America. One of
- 00:22:51the most frustrating things for me in uh
- 00:22:53French and Spanish is the
- 00:22:54learn like I remember the word I know
- 00:22:58that that's you know but is it is it if
- 00:23:02I have the paralysis to analysis of just
- 00:23:05I'm not going to speak because I don't
- 00:23:06know if
- 00:23:07it's like it's yeah you're never going
- 00:23:10to get anywhere really. No one the
- 00:23:11themes on day one of our stuff seek to
- 00:23:14understand and seek to be understood. If
- 00:23:16you stay within this rule in
- 00:23:18communicating, I really don't care. Like
- 00:23:19if you have a problem with me and the
- 00:23:21fact that I missed that an article here
- 00:23:24or this that and the other, I don't what
- 00:23:25are we doing exactly? This is not I
- 00:23:27wanted to convey to you that I was
- 00:23:28thirsty and that I wanted the bottle.
- 00:23:30That's all. Right. And so the people
- 00:23:32that are the grammar police and the
- 00:23:34those that I understand and it can
- 00:23:37happen online. I have a tendency to
- 00:23:38believe that it might be some of them
- 00:23:39are kids more the comments. Yeah. I
- 00:23:41think most of the time adults are just
- 00:23:43like I understand. Oh, that's cool.
- 00:23:44That's great job. Yeah, when it comes to
- 00:23:46practice, as you said, nowadays you
- 00:23:48don't need to move to the country to
- 00:23:50become a polygot, and you're proof of
- 00:23:52that. So, what what would be your advice
- 00:23:54when it comes to practicing for someone,
- 00:23:57let's let's say, who doesn't live in a
- 00:23:58city like London where you get to meet
- 00:24:00people from different countries? What do
- 00:24:02you think would be online? Tutors are
- 00:24:04the best thing ever. The first thing for
- 00:24:06you to do is to find quality,
- 00:24:07comprehensible input. Meaning that
- 00:24:09something that you can understand at the
- 00:24:11level that you're at. That's the very
- 00:24:12first thing you have to do. We already
- 00:24:15talked about having an understanding of
- 00:24:16high frequency words. You can use
- 00:24:17chatbt. You can use Google. Find them.
- 00:24:19And one of the things that we do within
- 00:24:21our course, we we show people how they
- 00:24:22can utilize AI in a way because AI sucks
- 00:24:24right now. It sucks. It's not good. It
- 00:24:27will be good and there are aspects of it
- 00:24:29that are helpful. But if I was leaving
- 00:24:31my language learning capabilities up to
- 00:24:33AI to be like, teach me how to do. It's
- 00:24:35a disaster. All right. You can take
- 00:24:37those high frequency words, you can
- 00:24:38create stories, you can create your own
- 00:24:39comprehensible input. You said you like
- 00:24:41uh basketball, he likes soccer. Well,
- 00:24:44okay, great. Go in there and create that
- 00:24:45story on this utilizing your high
- 00:24:47frequency words. And that's one way for
- 00:24:49you to also create because now not only
- 00:24:51is it going to spit out a story for you
- 00:24:52and there's several different, you know,
- 00:24:54places you can do this, the voices are
- 00:24:55starting to sound better. It's not a
- 00:24:57robot voice that it it's not bad now. So
- 00:25:00now you have audio, you have audio
- 00:25:01within the stuff that you have. And so
- 00:25:02that's you can generate some of your
- 00:25:03comprehensive. That's what we do. And we
- 00:25:05also help people. It's ideal if you can
- 00:25:07see that all the elements are there. And
- 00:25:09it's even better if it's tactile like
- 00:25:11that. you can do it in person that you
- 00:25:13have someone a proper tutor is necessary
- 00:25:14if you're saying like how do I do this
- 00:25:16when I'm not you got to have a proper
- 00:25:17tutor but more comprehensible input than
- 00:25:19speaking at the beginning I would say
- 00:25:20you do have to speak at some point some
- 00:25:22people are going to be different than
- 00:25:23others that's the thing like there's no
- 00:25:25one way there's no one you have to learn
- 00:25:27yourself and we preach this a lot
- 00:25:29because I can't hand you and you who've
- 00:25:32grown up in different places with
- 00:25:33different circumstances with different
- 00:25:34skills the way to do I can just give you
- 00:25:36guys a guide I can and help you
- 00:25:38understand you the more you understand
- 00:25:40yourself the better it will be, you
- 00:25:42know, and based on personality types as
- 00:25:44well is that I never had a problem
- 00:25:45speaking. Whereas, imagine for someone
- 00:25:47watching this who's more introverted and
- 00:25:48shy, they're going to see that and just
- 00:25:50feel like, well, we were just in
- 00:25:51different places. During my like teenage
- 00:25:53years, I got to the point where I could
- 00:25:55just say what I wanted in French and
- 00:25:56Spanish, but when they would reply, I
- 00:25:58couldn't understand them. And I'm sure
- 00:25:59there are a lot of people watching this
- 00:26:00who can actually understand because
- 00:26:02they've been watching Korean dramas or
- 00:26:04what do they call t nollas all the time.
- 00:26:06They can understand it, but then they
- 00:26:07don't know what to say.
- 00:26:16approach. You have to kind of program
- 00:26:18the tutor, but that's the one way I'm
- 00:26:20thinking about AI. You got to instruct
- 00:26:22the tutor. Tell them your goals. For me,
- 00:26:24I actually want to improve my listening.
- 00:26:26So, I need to hear you as a tutor
- 00:26:28speaking a lot or I want to I want to
- 00:26:30speak more. So, then could you just ask
- 00:26:32me open-ended questions and encourage
- 00:26:33me? You know, there you go. That's it.
- 00:26:35You're not far off from saying
- 00:26:36programming because we like to, once
- 00:26:38again, like I said, we like things
- 00:26:39handed to us and we just kind of like to
- 00:26:40like me, you know, and it's easier.
- 00:26:42Thinking is hard. Thinking about
- 00:26:44yourself is even harder. Reflecting on
- 00:26:46yourself is very hard because we have
- 00:26:47blind spots and egos that try to trick
- 00:26:49us into thinking like you're fine. No,
- 00:26:51you're wrong. You're good until you get
- 00:26:52the real world shakes you up. And so,
- 00:26:55yeah, we have a whole day dedicated to
- 00:26:57tutors. Like that's all I have a whole
- 00:26:59day that's just there to tell you what
- 00:27:00you need to do, how you need to
- 00:27:02structure this out because some people
- 00:27:03just go into the tutor thing and they
- 00:27:05think they'll teach me the language. I
- 00:27:06paid some money here like make it happen
- 00:27:09and they put the responsibility on them
- 00:27:11and we say no you have it goes
- 00:27:12responsibility stays on you forever in
- 00:27:14all things not just in language learning
- 00:27:16and uh we show you that you have to with
- 00:27:18the tutors especially some of them have
- 00:27:20their own ways their own egos their own
- 00:27:22ways and that's not going to fit for you
- 00:27:24so you got to change that and it's a
- 00:27:26lottery as well the chances are that you
- 00:27:28just find a tutor and they perfectly
- 00:27:29align with all of your goals that could
- 00:27:31happen but the chances are very very
- 00:27:33small so very could happen I know a big
- 00:27:36thing for you is the flow state. So, how
- 00:27:38does the flow state link into language
- 00:27:40learning? Most of the time, we're trying
- 00:27:42to get people to understand that the
- 00:27:44longer periods of uninterrupted study
- 00:27:46for your passive. I'm not talking about
- 00:27:48when you're speaking to someone, but
- 00:27:49even then, you want it to be locked in.
- 00:27:51You don't want to be looking at
- 00:27:52something else. And if you do that, you
- 00:27:54will watch the flow state. First, it'll
- 00:27:55be subtle, and then it'll start
- 00:27:57happening to you where you'll notice
- 00:27:59times going by and you're just locked
- 00:28:00in, right? And we've forgotten so much
- 00:28:02about that. When I was growing up, you
- 00:28:03had flow state all the time. There was
- 00:28:05nothing to distract you from what you
- 00:28:06were doing, the present moment. And then
- 00:28:08at university having the routine of even
- 00:28:09speaking classes, I remember 11:00 a.m.
- 00:28:11we would sit in a room and there would
- 00:28:13be just three or four other students and
- 00:28:14the teacher and they would say right now
- 00:28:16uninterrupted debate. Half of the room
- 00:28:18agrees that whatever should be illegal.
- 00:28:20Half of the room believes that it should
- 00:28:21be legal fight debate. And in that
- 00:28:24moment there were no phones. You weren't
- 00:28:26really allowed to make notes because
- 00:28:27that was the speaking class. every um
- 00:28:29every week doing those classes forces
- 00:28:32you into flow because I think once you
- 00:28:34distract your brain away from okay I'm
- 00:28:36speaking in French and you get to know
- 00:28:37I'm just passionate I want to win this
- 00:28:39debate you know like like same in in
- 00:28:41football as well you're like you're
- 00:28:42using those words in a sport of uh like
- 00:28:44I I did Muay Thai so then you're you're
- 00:28:46training with the trainer and he's
- 00:28:47saying to me like which means 20 punches
- 00:28:49whatever I'm not thinking oh I'm
- 00:28:51practicing tie right now I'm in the
- 00:28:53moment I'm in the flow state but then
- 00:28:54actually you're using those words and
- 00:28:55they start getting integrated into it
- 00:28:57and you actually forget you're studying
- 00:28:59because it's that's the fun element if
- 00:29:00you're speaking about something you're
- 00:29:02passionate about extra win extra double
- 00:29:04bonus you know totally yeah you turn off
- 00:29:05your brain though I mean because you had
- 00:29:07a goal which was to just either be in
- 00:29:09flow and just study or just do do the
- 00:29:12actions that you're doing right and so
- 00:29:14any words that it's just a conveying of
- 00:29:16a message once again seek to understand
- 00:29:18and seek to be understood someone's
- 00:29:19conveying a message to me this is what I
- 00:29:20want to do I'm arguing about this debate
- 00:29:23I just want to tell them this thing
- 00:29:25sucks you know and your thing is wrong
- 00:29:27and I'm Right? And once it becomes about
- 00:29:28that, you turn off the analysis
- 00:29:30paralysis. You stop thinking about
- 00:29:32whether it's this article or that
- 00:29:34article. You try to get what you're
- 00:29:35saying to be understood. Try to convey a
- 00:29:37message. And that is the stage at the
- 00:29:39beginning. That's that it could be that
- 00:29:40first month to 3 months. It could be 6
- 00:29:43months. It could be a year, right?
- 00:29:44Before you then have to then go, okay,
- 00:29:46they keep the, you know, in Croatian and
- 00:29:49Russian, they have these pad. They're
- 00:29:51these things at the the end. So things
- 00:29:53change the accusative case the genative
- 00:29:56K all these things endings change it's a
- 00:29:58nightmare trying to study it as like
- 00:30:00like if you were trying to stud no it
- 00:30:01has to be a later thing you have to
- 00:30:02first learn some general basis before
- 00:30:05they go okay by the way the ending
- 00:30:06changes here you're being understood but
- 00:30:08like hey this is what changing and this
- 00:30:11is why so you can start to notice that
- 00:30:12and then you stick one thing I do
- 00:30:14definitely recommend for people that
- 00:30:15like to some people love to study
- 00:30:17grammar and they can it's just the
- 00:30:18turnaround is going to be different than
- 00:30:20somebody who's doing the comprehensible
- 00:30:21input way meaning that you may not speak
- 00:30:24don't expect to speak immediately but
- 00:30:26then when it does and I made that
- 00:30:27mistake when I was doing German I
- 00:30:29studied a lot of grammar because I heard
- 00:30:30that the grammar was hard in German
- 00:30:31which it it is difficult you know so I
- 00:30:33spent a lot of time there and less time
- 00:30:35speaking and engaging with the language
- 00:30:36but when I went back started doing it I
- 00:30:39can still remember you know some of
- 00:30:41these weird rules right and so it
- 00:30:43happens and people know crashen's work
- 00:30:46people I know that people bash him also
- 00:30:48for certain other other things but one
- 00:30:49thing he definitely got right is when
- 00:30:51you're writing you have the time to go
- 00:30:56okay then I can okay that's that's
- 00:30:59that's this when you're speaking you do
- 00:31:01not have that time you cannot expect to
- 00:31:03have that same level but they're
- 00:31:05different approaches you just have to
- 00:31:06know when the right time for grammar is
- 00:31:07for you and you have to stay on one
- 00:31:09grammar point for a small period of time
- 00:31:11I'm not saying a year studying the dat
- 00:31:14case this week and this time in my
- 00:31:17attention is on this now next week I'll
- 00:31:20do the accusative but Now it's justice.
- 00:31:22I still remember those moments of like
- 00:31:24memorizing in Spanish
- 00:31:29there like if I were this it would be
- 00:31:33and subjective I think yeah there is
- 00:31:35going to be some use for it but if you
- 00:31:36only memorize those without the rest
- 00:31:38it's tough but I think another huge
- 00:31:40elephant in the room and I guess a thing
- 00:31:42not always spoken about is that it
- 00:31:44doesn't matter how good to some people
- 00:31:46let's say the street interviews and
- 00:31:47those kind of like win moments we've had
- 00:31:49doesn't matter how good even your
- 00:31:50language anguage skills and competency,
- 00:31:52proficiency of the language are if your
- 00:31:55accent's not that good. I found that
- 00:31:57just from in
- 00:32:01Korean, I don't actually speak much of
- 00:32:04those languages. But the accent is what
- 00:32:06I feel like provides a lot of warmth to
- 00:32:09to people. You I've seen on the street
- 00:32:12interviews have that ability. Where did
- 00:32:14that come from? Because I feel like no
- 00:32:15matter how much we study those things,
- 00:32:17if you can't mirror that pronunciation
- 00:32:19and not not just pronunciation, if you
- 00:32:20can't mirror the accent and the
- 00:32:21intonation, you don't always get that
- 00:32:23same um kind of reinforcement. Yeah. The
- 00:32:25love is there. There is a there is a
- 00:32:27you're lucky. People tend to love the
- 00:32:29French accent or where it leaves its
- 00:32:31traces on other languages. There are
- 00:32:33some languages that feel okay, but yes,
- 00:32:36it's really bad when you hear ablo
- 00:32:38espanol, soy americano, soy de Kansas
- 00:32:41city. It's like, oh god, it sounds like
- 00:32:44Honestly, for me, this doesn't sound
- 00:32:46good at all. I don't understand why we
- 00:32:50still though we think in England it's
- 00:32:51romantic, you know. He's French though.
- 00:32:55Romantic about it.
- 00:32:58Yeah. I I mean, it's You're right.
- 00:33:00You're right. There's some cool things
- 00:33:01that I've been I've actually really been
- 00:33:03kind of looking at how I've done that
- 00:33:05and what I what else I do cuz I don't
- 00:33:08like it when I am am hearing. I'm okay
- 00:33:10with it and I'm I'm I'm okay never
- 00:33:12having a 100% perfect accent in any
- 00:33:14language, whatever. I don't care. But
- 00:33:16sometimes it's hard for you to see how
- 00:33:18that person is making that word because,
- 00:33:20you know, there's some interesting
- 00:33:21things that happen when we grow up
- 00:33:22learning a language. The studies show
- 00:33:24that we have the potential as babies to
- 00:33:27speak anything. You know, if I take you
- 00:33:29to France, you're going to, you know,
- 00:33:30you're going to pick that up. If I take
- 00:33:31you to whatever, you know, to Pakistan,
- 00:33:33we'll do, right? But what happens as we
- 00:33:35focus as we specialize in that we start
- 00:33:37to lose the ability to make the some
- 00:33:39people can't go some people cannot do
- 00:33:42you know I have friends they can't do it
- 00:33:44you know and so they can't roll their
- 00:33:46ars and so what will help you is also
- 00:33:48not just hearing where are you putting
- 00:33:50your tongue when you go you probably
- 00:33:52never thought about it if you can do it
- 00:33:53but if you want to learn sometimes
- 00:33:54sometimes you'll see that their tongue
- 00:33:56is here that their mouth is here you
- 00:33:59know
- 00:34:02France
- 00:34:04Right? It's the mouth doesn't open as
- 00:34:07much. Right. It's funny. I have French
- 00:34:08friends as well and they said that in
- 00:34:10their American class they were like,
- 00:34:11"You need to open your mouth if you
- 00:34:13don't speak like an American." We blah
- 00:34:15cuz we're used to complaining. That's
- 00:34:16why we Yeah.
- 00:34:20So yeah, for the for the accent stuff
- 00:34:21like that, you have to mimic also. Mhm.
- 00:34:23Whatever. You can choose accents,
- 00:34:24places, this, that, and the other. you
- 00:34:26know, my Spanish if I'm with my friends
- 00:34:28in America, a lot of Mexican accents
- 00:34:31like this, watching Argentinian series.
- 00:34:34You watch that stuff, you mimic, you do
- 00:34:36this. There's another interesting guy,
- 00:34:37Alexander Arguas. You know, there's a
- 00:34:38big issue in the uh in the linguist,
- 00:34:41let's say, world. Cuz he studied, he got
- 00:34:43his PhD and all of his colleagues, he
- 00:34:44was like, "You guys all study languages?
- 00:34:46None of you speak. You guys are all
- 00:34:48doing studies and writing papers about
- 00:34:50how people should do that. None of you
- 00:34:51speak." And so he got his PhD, you know,
- 00:34:54in order because it was important and
- 00:34:56you know that whole the whole thing he
- 00:34:57did it but like he couldn't wait till he
- 00:34:59was done so he could do the thing and
- 00:35:01not live in theory. That's a huge part
- 00:35:03of like so if you are trying to fix your
- 00:35:05your accent mimic right watch listen say
- 00:35:08it back see what they're doing. If you
- 00:35:09can't say it properly look at how
- 00:35:11they're ask them what is going on with
- 00:35:12your tongue. What's going watch I
- 00:35:14guarantee you with a little bit a few
- 00:35:16days of care for that you will change.
- 00:35:17It seems like you can't but you can. You
- 00:35:20just are not focusing on it. you have
- 00:35:21too much to worry about. The the
- 00:35:23article, the this, the that, what word
- 00:35:24is it? You can change your accent. It
- 00:35:26can be changed. There's really no
- 00:35:27reason. It might not be perfect, but
- 00:35:28it's possible. I think you got to just
- 00:35:31really take that critical approach to
- 00:35:33yourself in terms of feedback. And
- 00:35:34that's what helped me really is having
- 00:35:36someone, as we say, savage your accent.
- 00:35:39And it took me a long time, even after
- 00:35:41studying French and Spanish, suddenly I
- 00:35:43was in Thailand. And they have tones.
- 00:35:45That took me I guess a year or two
- 00:35:47before I could actually start
- 00:35:49comfortably mimicking it. You know there
- 00:35:51was a lot of cup mai mai no mai mai mai
- 00:35:55mai. It's like I would get so
- 00:35:57frustrated. I'm saying the same thing
- 00:35:59you know but then again over and over
- 00:36:01again one day I could just do it for a
- 00:36:03long time. I couldn't I didn't like plan
- 00:36:05that day was the day I could do it. But
- 00:36:08it came after so much agony, let's say,
- 00:36:11of going through that constant
- 00:36:13correction process. And that's it. You
- 00:36:15can be an academic, but if you're not
- 00:36:17practicing, I I encourage people to sing
- 00:36:19in the language because you've got
- 00:36:21intonation. And I often find that when I
- 00:36:23coach people who love karaoke or have a
- 00:36:26musical background, their ability to
- 00:36:28adapt their intonation is a lot better
- 00:36:30than the average person just because
- 00:36:31they're already conscious about it. So,
- 00:36:33you got to dedicate separate time if you
- 00:36:36do want to improve your accent. There's
- 00:36:37nothing wrong with having a different
- 00:36:38accent, of course. But if you do want to
- 00:36:40mimic an accent better, I often say make
- 00:36:42time for that as well because you don't
- 00:36:44ever get successful at something often
- 00:36:45by accident. It's got to be like, okay,
- 00:36:47in the shower in the street, I've got my
- 00:36:48headphones in. I'm going to sing this
- 00:36:50Spanish song. I might look like a fool
- 00:36:51walking down or Korean, whatever song it
- 00:36:53is. For me, it's been the only way of
- 00:36:55like constant obsession with the accent
- 00:36:57as well, not only just on the other
- 00:36:59aspects. That's another huge point
- 00:37:00though, the fact that you number one you
- 00:37:02you have the key of may look stupid but
- 00:37:04uh I would I still do this but less so
- 00:37:07because I have headphones now but back
- 00:37:08in the day uh I would take a cell phone
- 00:37:10and I would talk another language to
- 00:37:12myself mainly because I'm an introvert
- 00:37:14and people assume that I'm extremely
- 00:37:16extroverted because they see me in
- 00:37:17several different places and in media
- 00:37:19but I love to read I want to study. I
- 00:37:21like to meditate I prefer to be alone
- 00:37:23but yeah you're not kidding like you can
- 00:37:24walk down the street or talk you know
- 00:37:26and repeat stuff to yourself. I mean
- 00:37:28nowadays people have earpods. Like if
- 00:37:29you see someone talking to themselves on
- 00:37:31the street 20 years ago they would be
- 00:37:32crazy. Now it's just you can't see their
- 00:37:33AirPods, right? And so it's like not
- 00:37:36that big of a deal. You have all these
- 00:37:37places like I said before, no excuses,
- 00:37:39you know? Like you should just be just
- 00:37:41like it's so crazy what you can do if
- 00:37:43you sit down and you're not so worried
- 00:37:44about the end goal. Like you said,
- 00:37:46dedicate a little time to it and just
- 00:37:47what happened and one day comes out of
- 00:37:49you and you're just like how did I do
- 00:37:50that? Well, you just moved towards it.
- 00:37:53You know, that's it. People see it's
- 00:37:54like the what they call it the iceberg
- 00:37:56um analogy where like in that one moment
- 00:37:58it seemed instant but people don't see
- 00:38:00the hundreds if not thousands of hours
- 00:38:02before that I guess scoring a goal as
- 00:38:04well right same how does how long does
- 00:38:05it take to you kick the ball it's in the
- 00:38:07net like one second countless countless
- 00:38:10countless hours well all the training as
- 00:38:12well that's the other thing I mean now
- 00:38:13we have an obsession of seeing the
- 00:38:14journey which I'm kind of against
- 00:38:16obviously on our football channel where
- 00:38:17we're teaching kids you know what what
- 00:38:19it's like to actually be a pro you know
- 00:38:20what what you need to do how you need to
- 00:38:22train you've got kids nowadays wanting
- 00:38:24to start record their day one and I
- 00:38:26understand uh I'm not ignorant to the
- 00:38:28idea there record day one and they want
- 00:38:29to you know show their journey on that
- 00:38:31what ends up happening just like the
- 00:38:33phone analogy they get obsessed about
- 00:38:34the content and how it looks and they're
- 00:38:36at training trying to see what their
- 00:38:37angle is and you're all this and before
- 00:38:39you know it you're making content
- 00:38:41instead of training you're more
- 00:38:42concerned about how that is and in my
- 00:38:44time there was no obviously there was no
- 00:38:45phones at training when I was 14 13
- 00:38:47whatever there was just nothing that you
- 00:38:48go to training and that's it you're
- 00:38:50you're there if someone misses it I
- 00:38:52think the amount of goals and things. I
- 00:38:53don't know how many Instagram followers
- 00:38:54I would have had at 14 with some of the
- 00:38:56goals I scored on against kids who can't
- 00:38:58really play. You know, it just that's
- 00:39:00there's a big difference between that
- 00:39:01and that I think is translates over to
- 00:39:03language learning as well, which is just
- 00:39:06guys like you're going to the end goal
- 00:39:08is is a beautiful thing and it and it's
- 00:39:10and it's wonderful. Don't worry about
- 00:39:11this journey, this stuff. Enjoy. Just
- 00:39:14enjoy enjoy every single aspect of this
- 00:39:16journey part. you'll get to the part
- 00:39:18where you your words will come out as
- 00:39:20long as you're focusing on the correct
- 00:39:22things. You know, you can go off. I
- 00:39:24don't want people to think that there
- 00:39:25aren't bad things and ways to waste
- 00:39:27time. I have a friend Stefan Syron who
- 00:39:29is he learned Swedish. He's an American
- 00:39:31guy. He spent four or five hours every
- 00:39:33day doing Duolingo before he moved to
- 00:39:35Sweden. When he got to Sweden, he was a
- 00:39:36teacher and he was like, "Oh my god, I
- 00:39:38don't speak Swedish." After all that
- 00:39:40time, he was like, "Oh my god." But it
- 00:39:42was great because he was with kids. they
- 00:39:43don't have as much of an interaction or
- 00:39:45they don't have high level vocab, right?
- 00:39:47And so it was there that he actually
- 00:39:48picked up a lot of his Swedish. We've
- 00:39:50done some cool videos together like
- 00:39:51where he speaks Swedish and I speak
- 00:39:53Danish or then my Swedish after I was
- 00:39:55there for a little bit of time and he
- 00:39:57was the same. Now he's a Swedish
- 00:39:58citizen, you know, and he just kind of
- 00:39:59enjoyed the journey. Poof. You know,
- 00:40:01it's just you have to you do have to
- 00:40:03have discipline. You do have to stay you
- 00:40:04have to show up every day. That's one
- 00:40:05thing I don't think we've touched on.
- 00:40:07You could spend an hour a day. That
- 00:40:08would be great. Even on those days that
- 00:40:10you can't, don't just throw the whole
- 00:40:11thing away. M take the 15 minutes. It's
- 00:40:14not lost. It'd be like just you working
- 00:40:15out. Like really, like if you could do
- 00:40:17100 push-ups in 5 minutes, should you
- 00:40:19still do it or should you be like, I
- 00:40:20can't go to the gym today, so I'm not
- 00:40:21going to do anything. Really, you know,
- 00:40:23you could you can do something. And so
- 00:40:25that's the same for language learning
- 00:40:26every day. The consistency is what
- 00:40:28matters. I mean, there's a key point you
- 00:40:31mentioned about sometimes the stronger
- 00:40:32you affirm yourself, the more you've got
- 00:40:34to defend. And I've told everyone, I'm
- 00:40:36going to do this. I'm going to be the
- 00:40:38best. You know, my French is going to be
- 00:40:39amazing. My Spanish is going to be
- 00:40:40amazing. Watch me. the time you spend
- 00:40:42speaking about it and that links to
- 00:40:44social media, right? If I told everyone,
- 00:40:46I'm going to build a podcast, watch this
- 00:40:47podcast, I'm going to be whatever,
- 00:40:49whatever it is, that energy itself is
- 00:40:51not really motivating as well because it
- 00:40:52it feels competitive. Whereas this is
- 00:40:55something beautiful that should be your
- 00:40:56own personal journey. Yeah, you can
- 00:40:57share it and encourage people, but I
- 00:40:59find with social media, it's a
- 00:41:00double-edged sword because it can become
- 00:41:02a career. You can make money from it,
- 00:41:03but that takes a lot of time as well.
- 00:41:06building all of that time put the reason
- 00:41:08you probably became pro is that at 14
- 00:41:10you weren't spending 20 hours a week on
- 00:41:12the point that's the point guys yeah I
- 00:41:14didn't do any of that after you've made
- 00:41:16it then you can share those gains with
- 00:41:18people so I think it's a great message
- 00:41:21yeah yeah yeah and the other thing with
- 00:41:22telling people about it it's good when
- 00:41:23you have some sort of social pressure I
- 00:41:25mean there's some great studies to
- 00:41:26understand that if you tell maybe one
- 00:41:27person who you trust and respect hey I'm
- 00:41:29going to learn Spanish that friend after
- 00:41:30two months and be like dude you haven't
- 00:41:32even bought a book like what are you
- 00:41:33that's great but the social media aspect
- 00:41:36of it is you're looking for that reward
- 00:41:37without having done something. That's
- 00:41:39what the kid is actually looking for.
- 00:41:41He's looking for you to cheer me on and
- 00:41:43get all the respect of having done
- 00:41:45something without actually doing it. And
- 00:41:47that's the problem. So that's why I
- 00:41:49don't recommend be work in silence.
- 00:41:51We'll all cheer you on once you've done
- 00:41:52it. You know, it's going to be great.
- 00:41:54The whole social media, everyone's going
- 00:41:55to love how you can juggle the ball and
- 00:41:57speak the language when you do it. You
- 00:41:59know, if you don't need to tell everyone
- 00:42:02necessarily that because you're getting
- 00:42:04the reward. It's it's not good. It's
- 00:42:06really not good for your your ego. Yeah.
- 00:42:08I think much better to find a Spanish
- 00:42:09speaking friend and just get obsessed.
- 00:42:11There you go. With them, take those wins
- 00:42:13and they're going to be proud of you
- 00:42:14when you go out into the real world and
- 00:42:16do what you can do. So, yeah. Could we
- 00:42:18know some of the highlights of your
- 00:42:19language learning experiences? I mean,
- 00:42:22there's too many. I mean, some of the
- 00:42:24things that are cool is when you really
- 00:42:26need it. Now, what I do, I I run around,
- 00:42:28I do interviews for, you know, some of
- 00:42:30these these major uh football and sports
- 00:42:33companies, Nike, Adidas, and etc. And
- 00:42:35so, we're interviewing stars, you know,
- 00:42:37for former legends like I just did uh
- 00:42:39Raul Gonzalez, you know, Raul. Yeah. I
- 00:42:41don't think that video is out. Probably
- 00:42:42it may be out soon here in a second. He
- 00:42:44feels more comfortable in Spanish,
- 00:42:45obviously. And there's several, you
- 00:42:47know, I did Sergio Ramos, just Sergio
- 00:42:49Ramos, he'd rather speak Spanish. And
- 00:42:51there's several times like that where
- 00:42:53the player feels more comfortable. And
- 00:42:55so normally what they'll do is have a
- 00:42:57translator. Well, that's that's a boring
- 00:42:58interview. Like imagine if you guys had
- 00:43:00to have someone I talk and then we wait
- 00:43:01for this guy over here to just tell you
- 00:43:03what I said. It's like come on. You
- 00:43:05know, those are boring subtitles or
- 00:43:06whatever. And so a lot of times they'll
- 00:43:09just say, "Okay, just do it. Just do it
- 00:43:10in that language." You know, the real
- 00:43:12challenge will be when I try and do it
- 00:43:13in a language I don't really speak like
- 00:43:15Portuguese. Like I can we can get by,
- 00:43:17right? You know some Spanish, you know
- 00:43:19Italian, you can get by. But if they ask
- 00:43:20me to give an interview, I would do it
- 00:43:22just for the challenge, you know? But
- 00:43:24stuff like that's going to come up. I
- 00:43:25have no doubt. Portunol, is that what
- 00:43:27they call it? When you mix Spanish and
- 00:43:29Portuguese, I mean they're cousins. I
- 00:43:32always say Latin based languages,
- 00:43:34Italian, French, Spanish. If you say
- 00:43:35enough words over and over again, you're
- 00:43:37probably going to understand something.
- 00:43:39Yeah. Yeah, totally. Will, it's been an
- 00:43:42amazing opportunity to hear all of these
- 00:43:44different insights into why people
- 00:43:46should learn a language, how they can
- 00:43:48learn a language, and the passion behind
- 00:43:50that in your case. Do you have any final
- 00:43:52messages for anyone watching this video?
- 00:43:55Man, you know, I it's always funny when
- 00:43:56I get these at the end there's so much I
- 00:43:58want to tell people, but at the end of
- 00:44:00the day, I want to bring it back to seek
- 00:44:02to understand and seek to be understood
- 00:44:03as a motto for how you go about your
- 00:44:05language learning. Because if you can do
- 00:44:07that, that has layers, right? It's not
- 00:44:10just in the language learning, but
- 00:44:11that's also people to people, right? If
- 00:44:13I try to understand you and your
- 00:44:14language and your culture and your
- 00:44:15stuff, like I told you, you're going to
- 00:44:16go on the street, you're going to see
- 00:44:17this guy's from Japan, you're going to
- 00:44:19say something to him. He's going to be
- 00:44:20like, "What is going on?" You have this
- 00:44:21general human connection and
- 00:44:23understanding. So, just enjoy every
- 00:44:25aspect of your language learning and
- 00:44:26forget forget all the rest. It's not
- 00:44:29important. Your inner goal matters. Your
- 00:44:32inner world, your inner state, that's
- 00:44:33what matters in your language learning
- 00:44:34ability and your journey. And that's it.
- 00:44:36So, that's all I would say. Thank you so
- 00:44:38much. Thank you very much.
- 00:44:54Wow, that's really
- 00:45:03[Music]
- 00:45:05cool. Okay.
- 00:45:20You have
- 00:45:42So I lived on Reunion Island, right? So
- 00:45:45they're French. It's an overseas
- 00:45:46territory. But like how there's Jamaican
- 00:45:49PWA or pigeon
- 00:45:51English, you know, they're kind of
- 00:45:54Nigerian English, the Crayos, they they
- 00:45:56have their own language and identity. So
- 00:45:58maybe we can teach you a couple phrases.
- 00:46:01There you go. So to if you meet someone
- 00:46:03from Reunion Island, they will say to
- 00:46:05you instead of like they say
- 00:46:10okay. And so
- 00:46:12the
- 00:46:15response that's cool,
- 00:46:21oh instead of like
- 00:46:24it also means like how are you? They
- 00:46:27say like
- 00:46:30wow. So
- 00:46:42it's what do you want to eat? You say
- 00:46:51so change a lot. Instead of like to say
- 00:46:55like V, they say that's cool. That's
- 00:46:59cool. Becomes
- 00:47:04okay. One of my favorites to end on is
- 00:47:06in Maician Crayo. It's an island right
- 00:47:08next to next to Reunion Island. Yeah.
- 00:47:10They have a word for maybe you can guess
- 00:47:13the animal. Ka Ka.
- 00:47:17So what animal doesn't run?
- 00:47:21Oh, that's a good that's a good guess.
- 00:47:23That's a great guess. But
- 00:47:32exactly because it doesn't run. Okay.
- 00:47:35So, but um well, again, thank you so
- 00:47:38much.
- 00:47:47How in Croatian do you say FA.
- 00:47:51It's spelled H V A L A
- 00:47:55Yeah. Great. Great. Great.
- 00:47:58Graci Talk in both of the the Swedish
- 00:48:01languages. Yeah. Yeah, that's it. No
- 00:48:04problem. No worries. So, make sure you
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