Poptop Roof Design on the Dream Overland Camper

00:19:11
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXeMmwNJNgM

Zusammenfassung

TLDRIn this video, Dan discusses the design of the popup roof for his new Jeep camper, focusing on the choice of a canvas roof over hard sides due to weight considerations and personal preference for sleeping under canvas. He explains the bed platform design, which will be located where the roof sits when closed, allowing for a two-level camper. Dan also addresses insulation concerns, planning to use insulated canvas and a diesel heater. He compares different pop-up types, particularly the wedge and vertical designs, weighing their advantages and challenges. Dan invites viewer feedback on his design choices and shares his ongoing discussions with supporters on Patreon.

Mitbringsel

  • ❄️ Winter has arrived, prompting a discussion on camper design.
  • 🛏️ The camper features a canvas roof for weight efficiency and personal comfort.
  • 💡 A fixed bed platform will be integrated for convenience.
  • 🌬️ Insulation will be addressed with insulated canvas and a diesel heater.
  • 🔄 Dan prefers a vertical pop-up for maximizing interior space.
  • ⚖️ He weighs the pros and cons of wedge versus vertical pop-up designs.
  • 🛠️ Challenges include managing the bed platform and roof closure.
  • 📣 Viewer feedback is encouraged on design choices.
  • 👥 Supporters on Patreon get behind-the-scenes access.
  • 🚙 More videos on the camper's progress are coming soon.

Zeitleiste

  • 00:00:00 - 00:05:00

    In this episode, Dan discusses the design of the popup roof for his new Jeep camper, Sandy. He explains the choice of canvas sides over hard sides, emphasizing the importance of weight and personal preference for sleeping under canvas. Dan outlines the camper's sleeping arrangements, including a fixed bed platform that remains set up for convenience, and addresses concerns about insulation and the functionality of the design.

  • 00:05:00 - 00:10:00

    Dan elaborates on the bed platform's design, which will be a permanent setup to avoid the hassle of daily assembly. He shares his experiences with previous campers and the benefits of having a ready-made bed. The discussion also touches on the challenges of creating a two-level sleeping arrangement and the importance of maximizing living space while maintaining comfort.

  • 00:10:00 - 00:19:11

    The video concludes with Dan comparing different popup types, including wedge and vertical pop tops. He highlights the advantages of a vertical pop top for interior space and ease of use, while also considering the complexities involved in its design. Dan invites viewer feedback on the design choices and shares his ongoing discussions with various companies about canvas solutions for the camper.

Mind Map

Video-Fragen und Antworten

  • Why did Dan choose a canvas roof instead of hard sides?

    Canvas is lighter, the design was not intended for hard sides, and Dan enjoys sleeping under canvas.

  • What is the bed platform design in the camper?

    The bed platform will be located where the roof sits when closed, allowing for a two-level camper.

  • How will insulation be handled in the camper?

    Dan plans to use insulated canvas and a diesel heater for warmth.

  • What are the main types of pop-up roofs considered?

    Dan considers wedge and vertical pop-up roofs, discussing their pros and cons.

  • What challenges does Dan face with the vertical pop-up design?

    He needs to ensure the bed platform can be lowered without crushing the canvas and manage the roof closure.

  • How does Dan plan to secure the bed platform?

    He is exploring options for a floating bed platform or using gas struts.

  • What feedback is Dan seeking from viewers?

    He wants input on the complexity of the vertical pop-up versus the wedge design.

  • Where can viewers follow Dan's progress?

    Viewers can support him on Patreon for behind-the-scenes access and updates.

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    I think it's pretty safe to say winter
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    has finally hit I drove Sandy 2 days ago
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    and I've just come out here to drive her
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    again today this is the road chose me
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    welcome back my name is Dan and on
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    today's episode I'm going to talk all
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    about the design of the popup roof on
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    the new Jeep camper and I'm out here
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    because I was going to pop the roof of
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    Sandy and climb around inside and show
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    you what I meant and show you where the
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    bed platform is and all of that kind of
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    stuff I don't think I'm going to do that
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    because it's snowing so much I think I'm
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    going to do this one inside
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    but today we're going to go over all the
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    different options that people are asking
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    about first of all where am I going to
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    sleep what about hard sides will canvas
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    be insulated enough is it a vertical
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    popup will it be a wedge popup how is
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    all of that stuff going to work let's go
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    through all of that right now the design
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    of the popup roof in the meantime I've
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    got a little bit of snow removal to
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    do from the very beginning this camper
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    was designed as a pop top and it was
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    designed to have canvas sides not hard
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    sides and I know hard sides are really
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    popular these days and lots of people
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    are asking me why didn't I go with hard
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    sides and there's a couple of reasons
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    for that first of all we have to
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    remember this is just a Jeep Wrangler it
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    has quite a modest payload and
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    everything we're doing weight has to be
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    our foremost consideration in terms of
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    keeping it as light as possible canvas
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    is obviously going to be lighter than a
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    hardside so that's a win right there the
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    other one is that Michael didn't design
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    this to be a hard-sided camper from the
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    very beginning the way that the canvas
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    mounts was designed in but there was no
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    consideration for hard sides so it
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    wouldn't really work to retrofit it
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    right now and the third reason and
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    actually the main one as far as I'm
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    concerned is that I really enjoy
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    sleeping under canvas uh I did it for 2
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    years on the Pan-American Highway for 3
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    years around Africa for a year around
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    Australia I sleep really well when I'm
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    sleeping under canvas I love being able
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    to open up the windows and just have bug
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    screen I love the fresh air I love the
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    view and even the canvas flapping in the
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    breeze it's actually quite familiar to
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    me now and I quite like it once I dealt
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    with the zip rattle on the Ursa Miner
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    popup it didn't bother me at all and I
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    slept like a rock so this popup with
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    100% certainty will have canvas sides
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    the next thing people ask about is where
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    am I going to sleep obviously I'm not
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    going to sleep on the floor like this
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    and so the whole idea from the very
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    beginning is that my camper would have a
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    bed platform that'll be up the top
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    approximately where the roof sits when
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    the roof is closed so basically it'll be
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    a two-level camper much like my Ura
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    Miner that I took around Africa and
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    people then ask what about the ability
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    to sleep downstairs you know if you
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    don't feel safe or if the weather's
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    really bad it might be nice to be able
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    to have a bed downstairs that you can
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    use sometimes and I thought exactly the
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    same thing when I was setting out for
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    Africa and I actually designed that jeep
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    that interior so that it can be
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    converted into a huge big flat sleeping
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    platform and all the mattress sections
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    from upstairs they come down and it does
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    make one ginormous bed and I did
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    actually use it before I even had the
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    popup roof on my way down to San Diego
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    to get it and I used it exactly once in
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    about the 5 years that I lived fulltime
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    in that thing and that was only because
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    the Zips were rattling in the wind in
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    Morocco that was before I figured out to
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    replace the metal pool tabs with small
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    nylon tabs to reduce that wind noise
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    ever since then I have never once
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    converted it into a flat sleeping
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    platform so it's just simply not
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    something that I need or something that
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    I think is worth the compromise because
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    if you do that you have to have your
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    interior design have that ability and
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    then that compromises what I would like
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    to do is have the most functional
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    downstairs living space possible and
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    then have a completely separate bed that
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    is also the best bed bed that it can be
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    so it will be really comfortable it'll
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    be quite big and it'll always be there
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    it'll always be set up so when I say a
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    bed platform up the top what I mean is
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    something like this and this bed you can
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    see is right around a queen-sized bed in
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    size and the most important feature of
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    it as far as I'm concerned is that it is
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    always set up so I don't have to fold
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    away roll away or put away any part of
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    the platform any part of the mattress
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    any part of the sheets or the duvet or
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    the pillows all of that stays exactly
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    where it is as a bed and I'll just push
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    the platform out of the way as one unit
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    and this is something that I learned
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    after my 2 years on the paname I had to
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    make my ground tent and my whole bed set
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    up every single night and then every
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    single morning pack it all away again
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    and doing that day after day for years
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    on end it gets really old it gets really
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    tiring and it starts to be one of the
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    reasons that you want to give up on the
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    trip and you want to say I've had enough
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    of this now I don't want to live like
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    this anymore I want to go and live in a
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    real house with a real bed so then when
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    I designed the Africa Jeep one of the
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    huge benefits was that that bed platform
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    it's always there it's always made
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    whether it's been a really long driving
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    day or whether I just am feeling lazy
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    all I need to do is pop up the roof and
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    the bed is ready to go just like that
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    all my pillows are up there the mattress
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    sections all the bedding it's all
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    sitting there I literally push the roof
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    up unzip the canvas climb inside and
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    that's it I'm going to bed and there's a
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    few huge winds here the first one is the
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    amount of effort and energy and time you
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    save from having to set it up and tear
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    it down every day but the other one that
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    I think a lot of people Overlook is you
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    don't ever have to move your bedding
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    anywhere and you don't have to store it
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    anywhere and so it's kind of surprising
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    how much space a duvet and a couple of
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    pillows take up if you need to store
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    those down below Somewhere In The
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    Limited storage space that something
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    like a jeeper angler provides as well as
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    that you might have to carry them
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    outside while you're doing that
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    obviously they're going to get rained on
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    they're going to get dust and mud and
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    all that kind of stuff so for me a
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    design criteria from the very beginning
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    is a permanent bed solution that is
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    ready to go as quickly and as painlessly
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    as it can possibly be and so you can see
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    the big platform basically obscures
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    almost all of downstairs the entire box
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    is 7 1/2 ft long so even if I make the
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    bed 5T wide which is the width of a
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    queen-sized bed then I still have 2 and
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    1/2 ft to climb up into it from below I
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    think that'll work really well on that
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    same topic a couple of people have asked
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    why don't I make it in two halves so
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    that you could have half of the bed
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    lowered and someone lying on it or
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    reading a book or watching a movie or
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    something and the other half is still
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    pushed up out of the way so that someone
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    else could be you know doing something e
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    the kitchen bench or working on a laptop
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    or something like that I think it's an
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    interesting idea the challenge there is
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    getting enough strength in that middle
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    section the middle part of the bed will
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    just be floating in space and I don't
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    know that there's an easy way to make it
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    strong enough without having to have
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    kind of a vertical leg that goes all the
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    way down to the floor of the camper and
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    something like that I personally just
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    completely am not interested in having a
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    leg like that just gets in the way and
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    it's annoying so while the two halves
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    option I think is interesting it's not
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    something I'm looking at right now it's
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    not something I've ever considered so
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    before we really get into the popup
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    discussion it's important to note my
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    camper will have this fixed bed platform
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    that sits where the roof is when it's
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    closed then once you've opened the roof
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    you can push the platform up to meet the
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    inside of the roof and that's how we get
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    our standup living space on the inside
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    of the camper I need to also mention too
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    about the insulation or the heat
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    properties of the canvas roof and
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    obviously if I just have a single layer
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    of canvas
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    it's not going to be the greatest for
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    insulation and I do plan on taking this
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    thing to cold parts of the world and so
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    you know that would be a downside for
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    sure I am building in a diesel heater
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    into this camper and everyone's told me
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    if I run it for even 10 minutes it's
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    going to be sweltering hot on the inside
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    anyway so to some degree it doesn't
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    really matter if the canvas isn't
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    incredibly well insulated certainly it
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    won't be as good as a hard-sided camper
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    but by the same token I don't want to
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    run the diesel on and off constantly it
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    would be nice if it just ran for say 5
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    minutes then it could stay off for an
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    hour and the heat inside the camper was
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    still comfortable so what I'm planning
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    is to use insulated canvas and there's a
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    bunch of different ways you can do this
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    you can just have two layers of fabric
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    or canvas kind of like I had on the uro
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    miner that stuff's called Sunbrella
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    really really excellent waterproof
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    durable canvas and then on the inside
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    you can put some sort of insulating
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    material like 3M insulate is a popular
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    one or some variation of that and you
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    basically make a big sandwich of all of
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    these layers which makes it thicker no
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    doubt and increases the insulation value
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    and so that's what I'm looking at right
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    now some way to get some insulation
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    value and I know at Overland have really
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    great insulated canvas popups on their
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    truck bed campers that they offer and so
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    actually I'm talking to Mario right now
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    about what he uses and how he does that
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    and I'm getting lots of ideas for how I
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    can have canvas that I don't want it to
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    be super bulky and heavy and thick and
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    difficult to fold away but I do want it
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    to be a little more insulating than just
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    a single layer of canvas so with all of
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    those design ideas out of the way we can
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    talk about the actual pop-up type and I
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    think there are two main types here that
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    are worth considering and that I've
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    really been weighing up the pros and
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    cons the first one being a wedge I think
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    wedges are really common for a lot of
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    reasons they're really really simple you
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    basically just have a big piano hinge
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    across the front you only need a couple
  • 00:10:02
    of latches at the back a couple of gas
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    struts and you can push it up and then
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    you've got interior living space it
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    means you wind up using less canvas than
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    some other types of popups it means you
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    can angle your solar panels to the Sun
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    so lots of benefits there the other big
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    one for me is that it means my bed
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    platform gets really simple because it
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    basically just hinges at the same place
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    that the popup would and so after I've
  • 00:10:27
    pushed the roof up then I could just
  • 00:10:29
    push the bed platform up it would
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    basically be on the same angle it would
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    meet the roof on the inside somehow I
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    secure it to the underside of the roof
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    and it's as simple as that when it's
  • 00:10:39
    time to go to sleep I unlatch the bed
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    bring it down rest it in its position
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    and it's time to go to bed so I think
  • 00:10:46
    the wedge is really simple probably the
  • 00:10:49
    most straightforward and certainly
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    because of my bed platform will be the
  • 00:10:53
    easiest to build and as you can see in
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    my photoshops here I had actually
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    decided that I would do a reverse wedge
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    so instead of it opening at the back it
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    would actually open at the front of the
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    vehicle and that's a consequence of my
  • 00:11:05
    interior layout I think it will be nicer
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    to climb up into the bed if I can stand
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    on these cabinets here at the front and
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    someone else too if you're downstairs
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    would be able to be using the sink or a
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    little bit of the kitchen even while the
  • 00:11:18
    bed platform is down the real downside
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    though I think of a wedge is that you
  • 00:11:22
    wind up with less standing space I am
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    6'2 and it would be really nice to be
  • 00:11:27
    able to stand up everywhere on the floor
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    plan of the camper or at least as much
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    as possible so while the wedge I've been
  • 00:11:35
    showing looks kind of cool I think it
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    would make a lot more sense to really
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    increase the angle of that wedge and
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    make it as steep as it possibly can be
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    more like this obviously now you have
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    way more canvas but because the angle is
  • 00:11:49
    so much steeper I'll be able to stand up
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    much closer to the back of the vehicle
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    before I bump my head on the underside
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    of the roof so if I was going to to do a
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    wedge that I think is what I would do
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    let's put that aside for a second though
  • 00:12:04
    similar to The Wedge there's the side
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    pop this is what Dave Haron used on the
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    AEV Outpost 2 this is what lots of Land
  • 00:12:12
    Rover door mobiles use and no doubt
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    about it looks really cool it's iconic
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    the number one reason I ruled it out is
  • 00:12:20
    because to get enough interior Standing
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    Room it will have to open up a really
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    long way and that's going to expose
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    quite a bit of the canvas to vertic cool
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    weather and so if it's thumping rain
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    which from experience is going to happen
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    when you're on a trip like this if it's
  • 00:12:35
    snowing anything like that I would
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    prefer to have the hard part of the roof
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    be at the top and the canvas simply be
  • 00:12:43
    the sides I don't want the canvas
  • 00:12:46
    directly vertically exposed to rain and
  • 00:12:48
    snow so for me the side pop never really
  • 00:12:52
    made a lot of sense again it looks
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    really cool but I Ruled that one out
  • 00:12:56
    pretty early on so that brings us to the
  • 00:12:58
    final final option which is a vertical
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    pop top and from the very beginning my
  • 00:13:03
    idea or my goal for this was to
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    genuinely have interior living space in
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    this vehicle that I can drive anywhere
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    on the planet when the weather's really
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    bad when the mosquitoes are horrible
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    simply when I'm tired and exhausted I
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    would really like to be able to have a
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    space inside I can read a book I can
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    make food I can work on my laptop that's
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    what I'm really going for with this and
  • 00:13:25
    Katie and I together will be inside of
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    this thing so right off the bat the
  • 00:13:30
    vertical pop top wins out because it
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    just gives the most interior space once
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    it pops up I'm thinking roughly 3 ft
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    I'll be able to stand up and walk around
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    the entire floor plan without even
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    worrying about bumping my head at all
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    that just won't even be something I
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    think about while you're sitting inside
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    too I think it's just going to make the
  • 00:13:50
    whole camper feel bigger probably even
  • 00:13:53
    feel bigger than it is simply because
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    there's no slope or there's no angles
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    kind of converging or coming in on your
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    field of view and as I walk towards the
  • 00:14:02
    back of the vehicle to go out the door I
  • 00:14:05
    won't have to slowly cramp down to avoid
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    hitting my head on the sloping pop-up
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    roof cuz it'll just be so high
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    everywhere so for a long time now I've
  • 00:14:15
    been trying to figure out how to make a
  • 00:14:17
    vertical popup work and in terms of the
  • 00:14:19
    popup itself I think it's really simple
  • 00:14:22
    on each of the long sides I'll have a
  • 00:14:24
    couple of gas struts on a big steep
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    angle that way when the roof is closed
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    or just open a fraction the gas struts
  • 00:14:31
    aren't actually providing much lift but
  • 00:14:34
    then as you start lifting it the struts
  • 00:14:36
    get closer and closer to vertical and
  • 00:14:38
    more of their force will be pushing the
  • 00:14:40
    roof upwards and they'll push it up and
  • 00:14:43
    hold it up it means the canvas that we
  • 00:14:45
    have to sew is basically just a strip of
  • 00:14:48
    fabric all the way around probably with
  • 00:14:50
    a window on all four sides that way
  • 00:14:53
    wherever the rain's coming from wherever
  • 00:14:55
    the sun is coming from I'll hopefully be
  • 00:14:57
    able to figure out you know some of the
  • 00:14:59
    windows open and some of the windows
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    closed maybe even get a cross Breeze
  • 00:15:02
    will be nice in that regard the
  • 00:15:06
    mechanism and the canvas are actually
  • 00:15:08
    fairly simple the complicated part
  • 00:15:10
    becomes my bed platform so if it sits
  • 00:15:14
    down where the roof does when it's
  • 00:15:16
    closed the challenge becomes where is
  • 00:15:19
    the canvas going and I think the only
  • 00:15:22
    way to do this is the canvas has to go
  • 00:15:24
    between the bed and the roof as the roof
  • 00:15:27
    is coming down that means the bed has to
  • 00:15:29
    be down before the roof comes down
  • 00:15:32
    because if the roof if the bed was up
  • 00:15:34
    against the roof and they both came down
  • 00:15:36
    together the canvas is going to wind up
  • 00:15:38
    getting squished under the bed and the
  • 00:15:40
    bed is probably going to be resting on
  • 00:15:42
    the steel frame of the camper the canvas
  • 00:15:44
    will get crushed between the bed
  • 00:15:46
    platform and the steel frame won't be
  • 00:15:48
    long at all until there's a hole in the
  • 00:15:49
    canvas that doesn't work at all so we
  • 00:15:51
    have to lower the bed down into sleeping
  • 00:15:53
    position then lower the roof down and
  • 00:15:56
    all of the canvas will Bunch up and sit
  • 00:15:58
    basically on top of all of our bedding
  • 00:16:00
    before I go outside and do up the
  • 00:16:02
    latches to keep the roof down that's
  • 00:16:04
    interesting in theory the challenge
  • 00:16:07
    becomes the reality of that I won't be
  • 00:16:09
    able to reach up inside in various
  • 00:16:12
    places because the bed will be in the
  • 00:16:14
    way and so I've been struggling with
  • 00:16:16
    this for a long time now I thought about
  • 00:16:18
    putting the bed itself on gas struts
  • 00:16:21
    that are either pushing it off the roof
  • 00:16:23
    and pulling it towards the roof or the
  • 00:16:25
    gas struts could be pushing and pulling
  • 00:16:27
    it off the frame of the camper I think
  • 00:16:30
    that would work but it's a little
  • 00:16:31
    complicated the other one is that the
  • 00:16:33
    bed frame more or less just kind of
  • 00:16:35
    floats in space and isn't hard mounted
  • 00:16:38
    anywhere it just sits physically on the
  • 00:16:41
    frame of the camper but whenever I want
  • 00:16:43
    to I can just from underneath push up
  • 00:16:45
    against it and nothing holds it there
  • 00:16:47
    it's more or less just sitting there
  • 00:16:49
    push it up and then find a way to secure
  • 00:16:51
    it to the roof then when it's time to
  • 00:16:53
    pack up lower it down and then I have to
  • 00:16:55
    think about how do I close the roof
  • 00:16:58
    because the bed is in the way at the
  • 00:17:00
    back of the camper I won't be able to
  • 00:17:02
    reach up and grab the roof from the
  • 00:17:03
    inside I'll have to go around outside
  • 00:17:06
    and close the roof that gets hard too
  • 00:17:09
    though I'm only 6'2 the roof is going to
  • 00:17:11
    be popped up well over 8 ft high so I
  • 00:17:14
    won't be able to just reach up and grab
  • 00:17:16
    the roof and pull on it I think I'll
  • 00:17:18
    have to have a strap on the outside
  • 00:17:20
    there's some complications going on
  • 00:17:22
    there that make it quite tricky but I do
  • 00:17:25
    feel like I want to work hard to make
  • 00:17:27
    the vertical pop work work because of
  • 00:17:29
    the advantages that it gives and because
  • 00:17:31
    it is after all the whole point of the
  • 00:17:33
    camper to have this interior living
  • 00:17:35
    space so these are all the things I'm
  • 00:17:37
    working on right now and I'd love to get
  • 00:17:39
    your ideas and your input have you seen
  • 00:17:41
    a camper out there that has solved this
  • 00:17:43
    in a really great way have you seen a
  • 00:17:45
    floating bed platform have you seen a
  • 00:17:48
    company that makes Custom Canvas for
  • 00:17:50
    popups like this I'm currently talking
  • 00:17:52
    to Colorado Camper vans I'm talking to
  • 00:17:54
    at Overland about who makes their canvas
  • 00:17:57
    I've been talking to John at Ura Miner
  • 00:17:59
    about how he makes his canvas I'm trying
  • 00:18:02
    to get as much input as I can about if I
  • 00:18:06
    should make it myself or if I should
  • 00:18:07
    just pay a company to make it for me and
  • 00:18:10
    what company that should be who does a
  • 00:18:12
    good job who makes the best canvas
  • 00:18:14
    that's the kind of stuff I'm interested
  • 00:18:15
    in so please do leave a comment down
  • 00:18:17
    below let me know your thoughts is it
  • 00:18:20
    worth the added complexity of the
  • 00:18:21
    vertical popup or should I just stick to
  • 00:18:23
    the wedge and keep it simple leave a
  • 00:18:25
    comment down below let me know and as
  • 00:18:28
    always too I've been having this
  • 00:18:29
    discussion on patreon with my supporters
  • 00:18:31
    over there for a good long while now
  • 00:18:34
    we've been going through a lot of
  • 00:18:35
    different design iterations and a lot of
  • 00:18:37
    different ideas so if you'd like to get
  • 00:18:39
    behind the scenes access Early Access
  • 00:18:41
    considerations about other projects I'm
  • 00:18:44
    working on like my next book where I'm
  • 00:18:46
    actually shipping this camper later this
  • 00:18:48
    summer jump on over to patreon you can
  • 00:18:51
    see all the benefits available over
  • 00:18:52
    there so until next time I have a
  • 00:18:55
    massive to-do list on the camper it all
  • 00:18:58
    has to get done in the next coming
  • 00:19:00
    months so I'm about to get extremely
  • 00:19:02
    busy there are about to be a lot more
  • 00:19:04
    videos on the channel thanks for
  • 00:19:06
    watching have fun out there and maybe
  • 00:19:08
    I'll bump into you on the road
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  • popup roof
  • canvas sides
  • hard sides
  • bed platform
  • insulation
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  • vertical pop-up
  • design considerations
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