These Toxins Are Silently Ruining Your Health | Bryan Johnson Podcast

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Zusammenfassung

TLDRIn this episode of the Brian Johnson podcast, Brian, Kate, and Dr. Mike discuss the impact of toxins in our environment, particularly focusing on the effects of fireworks and air quality. They explore the cultural practices that associate celebration with harmful activities, such as fireworks, which release toxins into the air. The conversation highlights the importance of being aware of these toxins, their health effects, and ways to minimize exposure. They also share personal experiences with toxin exposure and discuss methods for detoxification, including dietary changes and sauna use.

Mitbringsel

  • 🔍 Awareness of toxins is crucial for health.
  • 🎆 Fireworks contribute to air pollution and health risks.
  • 💧 Water and air filtration systems can reduce exposure.
  • 🥗 A diet high in antioxidants supports detoxification.
  • 🚫 Avoid fast food wrappers to limit exposure to harmful chemicals.
  • 🧖‍♂️ Sauna use can aid in eliminating toxins from the body.
  • 👶 Children are particularly vulnerable to environmental toxins.
  • 📊 PM2.5 levels are a key indicator of air quality.
  • 🌍 Cultural practices may need to change to prioritize health.
  • 💪 Small lifestyle changes can lead to significant health improvements.

Zeitleiste

  • 00:00:00 - 00:05:00

    The discussion begins with the importance of identifying harmful elements in our lives and advocating for cultural changes. The speaker acknowledges their role as a 'Buzzkill' for highlighting the negative aspects of celebrations that involve toxins, such as fireworks.

  • 00:05:00 - 00:10:00

    The podcast introduces the topic of toxins, with Brian Johnson, co-founder Kate Tolo, and Dr. Mike Malin discussing their sources, effects on the body, and prevention strategies. They aim to tackle the topic in a structured manner, addressing specific toxins one by one.

  • 00:10:00 - 00:15:00

    Brian shares his experience with AirPods and the concerns surrounding EMF exposure, suggesting a need for scientific evaluation. The conversation shifts to the aftermath of the Fourth of July fireworks, which led to poor air quality and public backlash against Brian's warnings about toxins.

  • 00:15:00 - 00:20:00

    Brian explains the backlash he received for pointing out the toxins released during fireworks, emphasizing the irony of celebrating life with practices that introduce harmful substances into the environment. Kate adds that people are often misinformed about the severity of these issues.

  • 00:20:00 - 00:25:00

    The discussion highlights the significant increase in air pollution caused by fireworks, comparing it to smoking cigarettes. They emphasize the need for awareness and alternative traditions that do not involve harmful toxins.

  • 00:25:00 - 00:30:00

    Brian argues that while the spike in toxins from fireworks may not be immediately lethal, it reflects a broader issue of societal practices that harm health. He questions the logic of associating celebrations with harmful activities, especially for children.

  • 00:30:00 - 00:35:00

    Dr. Mike offers a contrarian view, suggesting that while fireworks are harmful, there are more pressing issues affecting air quality that should be prioritized. He acknowledges the need for a balanced approach to health interventions.

  • 00:35:00 - 00:40:00

    The conversation continues with Brian's perspective on societal norms that celebrate harmful practices, urging for a shift in mindset towards healthier traditions that do not compromise well-being.

  • 00:40:00 - 00:45:00

    Kate discusses the health impacts of toxins, including inflammation and cardiovascular issues, and emphasizes the need for education on air quality and its effects on health. They advocate for alternatives like drone shows instead of fireworks.

  • 00:45:00 - 00:53:17

    The podcast concludes with a focus on actionable steps to reduce toxin exposure, including improving air quality at home, dietary changes, and the importance of awareness in making healthier choices.

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Video-Fragen und Antworten

  • What are the health effects of fireworks on air quality?

    Fireworks can significantly degrade air quality, leading to increased levels of PM2.5, which can cause respiratory issues, cardiovascular diseases, and neuroinflammation.

  • How can I reduce my exposure to toxins?

    You can reduce exposure by using air and water filtration systems, avoiding fast food wrappers, and maintaining a diet high in antioxidants and fiber.

  • What are forever chemicals?

    Forever chemicals, or PFAS, are man-made chemicals that accumulate in the body and environment, leading to various health issues.

  • What is the significance of PM2.5 levels?

    PM2.5 levels indicate the concentration of fine particulate matter in the air, which can have serious health impacts when elevated.

  • How can sauna use help with detoxification?

    Regular sauna use can promote sweating, which helps eliminate certain toxins from the body.

  • What are some common sources of toxins in our environment?

    Common sources include air pollution, industrial chemicals, plastics, and certain food packaging.

  • What dietary changes can help detoxify the body?

    Incorporating high-fiber foods, antioxidants, and avoiding processed foods can support the body's detoxification processes.

  • How do toxins affect children's health?

    Children are particularly vulnerable to toxins, which can impact their development and long-term health.

  • What is the role of air filtration systems?

    Air filtration systems help remove harmful particles and pollutants from indoor air, improving overall air quality.

  • Why is it important to be aware of toxins in our environment?

    Being aware allows individuals to make informed choices to protect their health and reduce exposure to harmful substances.

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    When we can identify things in our life
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    that are causing us harm, it's prudent
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    to identify those things and then if we
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    can make the cultural changes. The
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    problem is those arguments lead people
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    to this consiliatory mark where they
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    conclude, well, I guess we continue on.
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    And there's very few voices saying this
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    is a bad idea. So, if I can populate the
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    airwaves and be that voice in society, I
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    think I would play that role. And and I
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    know that I'm I'm Buzzkill Brian in this
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    vector and I I fully own it and I'm
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    sorry, but it's true. And so it just
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    really is this thing that we've done
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    where we've associated celebration and
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    life with death practices.
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    >> We're not trying to scare people.
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    I mean, like I maybe a little
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    >> Hi everybody. Welcome to the Brian
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    Johnson podcast. Today I have with me my
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    co-founder Kate Tolo and my lead doctor,
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    Dr. Mike Malin. And today we are talking
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    about toxins. It can be a scary topic,
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    but we're going to approach it toxin by
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    toxin and talk about where they're
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    coming from, what effects they have in
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    the body, and then also what you can do
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    to prevent exposure and minimize the
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    things that are already in your body.
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    Let's go.
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    >> Brian, you're wearing AirPods today.
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    >> I tried to remove them. I didn't want to
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    wear a wired set and then the producer
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    said I needed some kind of feedback. So,
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    I'm asking for an earphone. But I know
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    that every time I wear AirPods, people
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    are going to be like, "Bro, you're going
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    to blow your brain up with EMF." So,
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    maybe we should do a deep dive on this
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    and assess.
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    >> I think it's a hot topic. I think people
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    want to know. So, let's look into the
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    science. It might not have enough robust
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    evidence out there to support it either
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    way. Do it or not do it, but at least we
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    can we can share that. So hopefully your
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    brain's okay today
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    >> and that if there's damage that there's
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    some way out of it.
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    >> Okay, let's get into this topic. This
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    topic came about because we had Fourth
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    of July. Brian and I actually spent the
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    next day together on Saturday and we
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    were trapped inside all day and it
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    sucked because the air quality was
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    atrocious. Like not worth exposing
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    yourself to it. So what do you think of
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    that? We got a lot of push back from it
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    on Twitter cuz people were like, "Let us
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    have one day, Brian, where you're not
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    chastising us. like, can we just
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    celebrate?
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    >> Yeah, people were really upset with me
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    because I I posted online that the
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    fireworks were going to basically bathe
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    the entire LA area with toxins and not
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    just heavy metals, but a whole bunch of
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    other toxins that we've imported from
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    China. And we're now going to explode
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    them in the air. Is going to bathe all
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    of our family and friends and loved ones
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    with these toxins during the fireworks
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    show. And then for 24 hours afterwards,
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    it's going to settle into our soil and
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    water. And I was calling attention to
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    the fact that this is kind of a weird
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    tradition that we celebrate life by
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    bathing ourselves in death. And people
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    got really upset with me.
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    >> Yeah. Even when I was talking to a
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    friend the next day and I was talking
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    about the situation, he was like, "Kate,
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    like, no, you can't take this away from
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    us. Like, we need to celebrate. We need
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    our fireworks." And I feel like when I
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    think about that, I think people are
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    just totally miseducated on the severity
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    of the situation. There is always going
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    to be a degree of um things we're
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    willing to do for our health and things
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    we're like, "Okay, we'll spend a couple
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    of points here." Fireworks really
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    damaged the air quality for an entire
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    24-hour period. It was something like,
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    what was a cigarette equivalent? Smoking
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    20 cigarettes the next day.
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    >> That's right. During the fireworks show,
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    it was equivalent to smoking one
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    cigarette because you're you're
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    basically getting at 160 PM 2.5 and then
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    12 hours after we'll throw the map up
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    here on screen, but in the purple areas
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    it was equivalent to smoking 20
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    cigarettes. Yeah. Which is wild. So
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    today we're going to talk about what
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    effect that has on the body and then
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    we're going to talk about other types of
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    toxins in the body. We had some feedback
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    um in the comment section that folks
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    wanted a much more structured podcast.
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    And so to tee this up, we're going to
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    talk about why fireworks are bad, why
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    you should be with us and saying, "Let's
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    make other traditions for Fourth of
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    July." What other toxins exist in your
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    environment that you might not be aware
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    of, and then how Brian has limited his
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    exposure and also reverse some of the
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    exposure that he has been exposed to.
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    And so this includes things like PASS,
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    um different toxins from your blood, and
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    then obviously like your environment,
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    air quality, that kind of thing.
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    >> The thing is that we're trying to call
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    out is it's not that the the July 4th
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    spike in toxins are going to kill you.
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    It's that we routinely do things in life
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    that kill us. And those things we have
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    tried to color as living life or the
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    purpose of life or happiness. And I want
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    to call to the attention that that may
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    not be true. And so there's there's
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    definitely not a rule of the universe
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    that one needs to kill oneself in order
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    to feel happy or satisfied or content.
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    And so if you're exposed to PM 2.5 on an
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    annual basis, so let's say that you have
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    a a an extra extra 15 points on the PM
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    2.5 scale for 20 hour 24 hours a day at
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    365 days a year. you're getting um
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    exposure of 131,000 uh per year versus
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    on a July 4th spike. It's about uh less
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    than 1% of that. It's not hugely
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    consequential, but it's really just a
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    point of when we can identify things in
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    our life that are causing us harm. It's
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    prudent to identify those things and
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    then if we can make the cultural
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    changes. So, I hear you. Uh, you know,
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    big exploding things in the sky, it is
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    exciting. They're loud and you feel the
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    vibrations and that's cool. Kind of
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    talks to our primitive brain like, you
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    know, but also when we're taking
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    children to a firework show and you're
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    bathing the childrens in toxins, I'm not
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    sure about that. I don't know if that's
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    living life. I'm not sure if I'm if I'm
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    a baby if I want to be bathed in toxins.
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    And then again we get dosed again when
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    they enter into our water and our food
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    supply. So Mike, what's your take on
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    this?
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    >> I guess I want to take like a slightly
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    contrarian uh viewpoint um to you just
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    in the sense that like I think if I were
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    to choose interventions to improve air
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    quality, the first thing I would do
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    would not be to like take away
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    fireworks. And I don't think that's what
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    you're suggesting necessarily. I think
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    you're trying to point out that like,
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    hey, we choose to do things that are
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    inherently bad for us on a regular basis
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    as a way of celebrating life, which is
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    just sort of ridiculous, which I don't
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    disagree with you with. I think that
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    makes a lot of sense. But when it comes
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    to like what's going to have the
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    greatest impact on your overall health,
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    I think that there's there's a multitude
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    of things that are higher on the list
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    for me than fireworks. So, like these
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    oneoff situations, like just like you
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    were talking about in that in that math
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    that you that you shared, these one-off
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    situations have a very small total
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    impact when you compare it to like
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    living in LA 365 days a year. Like
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    there's a huge impact from a moderate
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    increase in PM2.5 as opposed to a
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    relatively small impact from a large
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    short duration increase of PM2.5. So, I
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    don't know. I just tend to look at it
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    from more of like a practical view of
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    like where do I want to where do I want
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    to put my effort in terms of improving
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    human health. Um as opposed to you're
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    thinking about it a little bit more I
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    guess idealistically in the sense that
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    you're thinking about like why are we
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    choosing things that are inherently bad
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    for us which I I don't disagree with.
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    >> Yeah. Yeah. And I'm saying if if you
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    remove the storytelling and the cultural
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    significance, if you're an outside
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    observer, if you're an alien and you
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    can't see the the language of our
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    society and the storytelling apparatus
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    and you just see us as biochemical
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    beings and you say, "What are those
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    creatures doing bathing themselves in
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    chemicals?" Like, what sort of ritual is
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    that that makes any any kind of sense?
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    >> Sure. like like we want to celebrate
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    someone's birthday. So, we go out and
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    have a couple of alcoholic drinks and
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    pizza and birthday cake. We're just like
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    ingesting all of these things that kill
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    us as a celebration of life. Like, uh, I
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    don't know. It doesn't seem right.
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    >> That's exactly right. And so, it's the
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    same parallel and and I know that I'm
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    I'm Buzzkill Brian in this vector and I
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    I fully own it and I'm sorry, but it's
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    true. like you if a birthday celebration
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    comes, you basically stack up u
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    metabolic disaster, right? So, it's
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    alcohol and then it's sugar and then
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    it's late nights. And so, it just really
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    is this thing that we've done where
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    we've associated a celebration and life
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    with death practices. And it it it will
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    be viewed in the future. This will be
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    viewed as insane. Like, there will be no
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    way around it. Like, there's just it's
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    weird that we do it. You're not just
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    paying the price at the end of your
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    life, you're paying price in decreased
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    cognitive performance. It it
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    deteriorates your health in all
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    capacities. So, it really is
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    detrimental. And I think that for me, I
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    agree that Mike, if you were to take a
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    more practical approach and be like,
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    well, let's be reasonable. I guess like
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    I want to create this contrast of
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    clarity. It's not a good thing to bathe
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    yourself in chemicals no matter what.
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    like I don't care what the what the
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    reason is. It's just not that you
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    definitely can celebrate life. You can
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    do good things and feel good about uh
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    various events, but you just don't need
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    to do it with death.
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    >> If I could put words in your mouth, too,
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    it's like people are choosing to do this
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    as opposed to situations where we don't
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    have a choice. Like the majority of
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    toxins in our life are not things that
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    we choose, right? They're the LA fires.
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    They're chemicals that are in the water
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    supply. They're all of these things that
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    you really can't practically make a
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    choice about. So, at least make good
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    choices when you're given the
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    opportunity to choose healthy or
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    unhealthy uh traditions.
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    >> Yeah. And I I feel like I would want to
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    give people the benefit of the doubt. I
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    don't think they realize what they're
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    choosing at all when they go about doing
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    this. So, let me read off a couple of
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    things. It increases inflammation and
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    lungs causing asthma and lung cancer.
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    This is obviously chronic exposure.
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    crosses into the blood where it causes
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    again increased inflammation and
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    oxidative stress in the heart and blood
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    vessels leading to cardiovascular
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    disease. It crosses the blood brain
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    barrier causing neuroinflammation. So
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    that can lead to neurogenerative
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    diseases. I know that I think when we
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    went to India it was something like
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    their lifespan was significantly
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    impacted by poor air quality every day.
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    Um so I'd say that and the other point
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    about this is that this is a
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    non-consensual pollution of our shared
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    resource of air. And so I think that's
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    also the thing that upsets me is like
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    the kids that get exposed to this. If
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    you go out and have a couple alcoholic
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    drinks with your friends, that's your
  • 00:10:46
    choice. But the general pollution of our
  • 00:10:49
    shared environment and I I think that
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    comes from misunderstanding and not
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    being educated on the topic. So I do
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    think it's the kind of thing like just
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    like with alcohol where we can push the
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    narrative forward like let's have drone
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    shows, not fireworks. Like very simple,
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    easy to swap it out. We'll all enjoy it.
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    We can put some speakers up and make
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    some loud sounds at the same time.
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    Yeah, Kate, the shared resource thing is
  • 00:11:12
    true. Like when as you mentioned when
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    you and I were basically we were trying
  • 00:11:17
    to find an outdoor adventure on Saturday
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    and we're like, "Oh man, like the day
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    like there was this cloud of smoke. It
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    was it it looked like there was fog in
  • 00:11:27
    LA. It was so densely uh uh populated
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    with smoke from the uh fireworks." Yeah.
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    The stat that Kate mentioned was that
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    India would do more to improve the
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    health of their citizens by addressing
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    air quality than by curing cancer. So in
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    that sense, air quality is a higher
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    yield endeavor than solving all of
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    cancer. It is this invisible force and
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    we saw this firsthand when we were in
  • 00:11:54
    India and then when we saw this in the
  • 00:11:56
    LA fires. So I guess toxins really have
  • 00:11:59
    been top of mind. So even though when
  • 00:12:01
    the 4th of July happens and it's this
  • 00:12:02
    acute exposure for 24 hours, I guess I'm
  • 00:12:05
    now particularly attuned to toxins
  • 00:12:08
    because we've been working on measuring
  • 00:12:09
    them and removing them. And so to see
  • 00:12:12
    all these urban areas across the United
  • 00:12:14
    States just get bathed in toxins, it
  • 00:12:16
    just like hurts my soul.
  • 00:12:17
    >> That's about like a symbolic thing.
  • 00:12:19
    Okay, fireworks like it's probably not
  • 00:12:20
    going to kill us in the long term having
  • 00:12:22
    one day in the year, but also it's a
  • 00:12:25
    choice. It's a societal choice and maybe
  • 00:12:26
    we don't have education on it. The thing
  • 00:12:28
    that Mike was saying was like the LA
  • 00:12:29
    wildfires were really scary for everyone
  • 00:12:31
    because it was something where it was
  • 00:12:33
    imposed on us by the environment and we
  • 00:12:36
    really were all exposed to some pretty
  • 00:12:37
    intense um toxic chemicals. Mike, what's
  • 00:12:40
    your take on what Brian was exposed to?
  • 00:12:42
    >> We knew it would be bad. Wildfire
  • 00:12:44
    exposure is bad in general. Um and that
  • 00:12:47
    there was a lot of homes obviously
  • 00:12:49
    tragically burnt uh during the the LA
  • 00:12:52
    wildfires which expose us to other
  • 00:12:54
    chemicals than you traditionally get
  • 00:12:56
    from just a tree. um you know, organic
  • 00:12:58
    matter to type of wildfire. So, we
  • 00:13:00
    expected it to be bad. I don't think we
  • 00:13:02
    expected it to be quite as bad as as it
  • 00:13:04
    turned out based on Brian's results.
  • 00:13:06
    Brian, why don't you share your your
  • 00:13:08
    results with us? What what did you what
  • 00:13:10
    did you see on that test that you had
  • 00:13:12
    performed after the LA wildfire?
  • 00:13:13
    >> All right. If you look at this data, you
  • 00:13:16
    just see red like down the line. And
  • 00:13:20
    let's walk through a few of these
  • 00:13:21
    chemicals.
  • 00:13:22
    >> So, you got a baseline and then you got
  • 00:13:23
    this is after. Is that right? Just to
  • 00:13:26
    clarify. Okay, that's right. When the LA
  • 00:13:27
    fires happened, I
  • 00:13:31
    had measured a baseline toxin level
  • 00:13:33
    before for a different uh therapy. So, I
  • 00:13:36
    was potentially one of the only people
  • 00:13:37
    in Los Angeles who was being measured
  • 00:13:39
    for toxins and I got a before and after
  • 00:13:40
    shot. So, I did the baseline uh I forget
  • 00:13:44
    a month or two before and then I did
  • 00:13:47
    this follow-up I think on like day five
  • 00:13:49
    or six post when there when it was still
  • 00:13:52
    ashing and it lists out like Michael was
  • 00:13:55
    saying the various toxins like the
  • 00:13:58
    industrial-grade toxins, all the stuff
  • 00:14:00
    you you would see in burning homes and
  • 00:14:03
    burning cars. And it just basically uh
  • 00:14:07
    loaded up my body with every single
  • 00:14:09
    toxin they measured to the like between
  • 00:14:13
    the 75th and 95th percentile for um
  • 00:14:17
    intensity.
  • 00:14:18
    >> And what was really interesting is that
  • 00:14:19
    the toxins that we saw elevated make
  • 00:14:22
    perfect sense when we think about what
  • 00:14:24
    was happening, right? So homes were
  • 00:14:26
    burning. So, you were being exposed to
  • 00:14:28
    things like phalates, um, which are
  • 00:14:30
    plasticizers, which basically just means
  • 00:14:32
    they're chemicals added to plastics to
  • 00:14:34
    make them soft and more flexible. And
  • 00:14:36
    these are things like MEHP,
  • 00:14:38
    um, MBP, all things that we would see
  • 00:14:41
    from burning homes. Uh, when when homes
  • 00:14:43
    burn, tons of plastics are burning. We
  • 00:14:46
    were seeing a lot of um increase in
  • 00:14:48
    VOCC's again from other burning organic
  • 00:14:51
    um, materials. Uh and these are uh
  • 00:14:53
    things that we would also see from like
  • 00:14:55
    burning solvents um from household
  • 00:14:57
    household products like cleaners, foams
  • 00:14:59
    and sprays. And both of these the
  • 00:15:03
    plasticizers as well as the the VOCC's
  • 00:15:07
    have lots of terrible effects on the
  • 00:15:10
    body. So things like reproductive
  • 00:15:13
    developmental issues, increased risk of
  • 00:15:15
    developing asthma and allergies,
  • 00:15:17
    carcinogenic,
  • 00:15:18
    um basically everything you can think of
  • 00:15:20
    regarding inflammation affecting DNA,
  • 00:15:23
    oxidative stress, these chemicals are
  • 00:15:25
    going to do. And these went from, as you
  • 00:15:27
    were mentioning, Brian, from like zero
  • 00:15:29
    in your normal life to 95th percentile,
  • 00:15:32
    meaning like we compare you to the rest
  • 00:15:34
    of the population of, you know, out of a
  • 00:15:36
    100 people, you have higher levels than
  • 00:15:39
    95 of them, which is pretty pretty
  • 00:15:41
    impressive.
  • 00:15:42
    >> This of course is not meant to scare
  • 00:15:45
    anybody. It is to say that there are
  • 00:15:47
    various sources of toxins and when that
  • 00:15:53
    does happen I guess we want to identify
  • 00:15:55
    what toxins are entering the body. So I
  • 00:15:56
    guess like two layers one is if we can
  • 00:15:58
    just baseline it's not a good idea to
  • 00:16:01
    generate toxins in society that bathe
  • 00:16:04
    all of us in toxins and then the second
  • 00:16:06
    thing is when we do have events like
  • 00:16:09
    fires which are out of our control then
  • 00:16:11
    that's a second vector that gets to us
  • 00:16:13
    as well. And so maybe we can bridge to
  • 00:16:16
    what things were doing once we're
  • 00:16:18
    exposed to these toxins. But keep in
  • 00:16:20
    mind that when I had this exposure, I
  • 00:16:23
    stayed inside for the majority of that
  • 00:16:25
    time and I had multiple air filters and
  • 00:16:29
    a MV 13 air filter on my HVAC system. So
  • 00:16:32
    I was pretty decently prepared to cycle
  • 00:16:35
    through toxins, but it, you know, it
  • 00:16:37
    seems like it made a minimal difference.
  • 00:16:39
    Now, if someone else was in the same
  • 00:16:41
    environment and and was outside and had
  • 00:16:44
    no air filtration systems in their in
  • 00:16:46
    their home, then it could have been
  • 00:16:48
    worse.
  • 00:16:49
    >> You said something there I just want to
  • 00:16:50
    I want to comment on real quick. We're
  • 00:16:51
    not trying to scare people.
  • 00:16:54
    I mean, like maybe a little because
  • 00:16:57
    maybe it's not we're trying to scare
  • 00:16:59
    people, but getting scared is the side
  • 00:17:01
    effect of knowledge in the situation
  • 00:17:02
    because I think so many people don't
  • 00:17:04
    understand about air pollution in
  • 00:17:05
    general or even its effect. Like where I
  • 00:17:08
    live, I have um friends that still sleep
  • 00:17:11
    with their windows open when there's a
  • 00:17:13
    wildfire nearby because they don't want
  • 00:17:15
    to run their AC and they want it to cool
  • 00:17:17
    off their house at night. And I'm like,
  • 00:17:19
    what are you doing? You know, like
  • 00:17:22
    knowledgeable, educated people are are
  • 00:17:25
    not aware of the effect that air quality
  • 00:17:28
    often has on their health. And um that's
  • 00:17:30
    a problem we need to fix. And so to some
  • 00:17:32
    like if some people get scared like I I
  • 00:17:35
    don't know like not that big of a deal
  • 00:17:37
    to me in terms of like educating people
  • 00:17:38
    and helping them understand like how to
  • 00:17:40
    take better care of themselves.
  • 00:17:42
    >> Yeah. And what we're trying to do in
  • 00:17:44
    society is say one there are things that
  • 00:17:47
    are within your control our control
  • 00:17:49
    collectively like fireworks. There are
  • 00:17:51
    things that are outside of our control.
  • 00:17:53
    Don't be scared of those things
  • 00:17:56
    happening because throughout history
  • 00:17:58
    this has happened time and time again.
  • 00:17:59
    The only difference here is that we know
  • 00:18:01
    and we're going to learn from it. And
  • 00:18:03
    three, using that information, we can
  • 00:18:05
    try and test protocols for how we can go
  • 00:18:07
    about preventing this cuz preventing the
  • 00:18:09
    wildfire, not using these materials in
  • 00:18:11
    construction, it's probably going to be
  • 00:18:12
    very difficult. But what we can learn
  • 00:18:15
    from this is like if you are exposed to
  • 00:18:17
    toxins, which is going to be inevitable
  • 00:18:19
    going through life currently in society.
  • 00:18:21
    Here's how maybe we can start to
  • 00:18:23
    scientifically attack like is it
  • 00:18:25
    possible to remove these toxins from
  • 00:18:26
    your body and how quickly and you know
  • 00:18:28
    how difficult it's going to be, how
  • 00:18:29
    accessible is it going to be. We're
  • 00:18:31
    trying to give a path for like let's
  • 00:18:32
    actually like tackle these big problems.
  • 00:18:34
    >> For those of you interested in the gory
  • 00:18:36
    details, let me just read you a few
  • 00:18:39
    descriptors.
  • 00:18:40
    >> You look happy.
  • 00:18:42
    I mean, some people are going to want to
  • 00:18:45
    hear this.
  • 00:18:47
    One of the toxins that showed up in my
  • 00:18:50
    body is uh called H EMA.
  • 00:18:53
    And so, my levels went from undetectable
  • 00:18:56
    to a fivefold increase, 95th percentile,
  • 00:19:00
    uh 23 micrograms per gram. And so he is
  • 00:19:03
    a derivative of vinyl chloride coming
  • 00:19:06
    mostly from the fumes of burning
  • 00:19:07
    synthetic floors, pipes and wirings PVC.
  • 00:19:11
    Uh both vinyl chloride and ethanol oxide
  • 00:19:14
    are known as carcinogens as well as
  • 00:19:15
    long-term neurotoxins with acute effects
  • 00:19:18
    including headache and dizziness. So I
  • 00:19:21
    mean you can basically go chemical by
  • 00:19:24
    chemical and say what's in a home?
  • 00:19:26
    You've got pipes, you've got like, you
  • 00:19:29
    know, plastic materials. And we just
  • 00:19:30
    down the line, Mike started going
  • 00:19:32
    through these. Every kind of PLA
  • 00:19:34
    material that is used to build a home,
  • 00:19:37
    you can now see in my body when I did
  • 00:19:39
    that test.
  • 00:19:39
    >> Wow.
  • 00:19:40
    >> So again, from undetectable to 95th
  • 00:19:43
    percentile. So pretty amazing to get
  • 00:19:46
    this data in real time. You know, DP,
  • 00:19:49
    this is likely coming from the release
  • 00:19:51
    of furniture and electronics. It's a a
  • 00:19:54
    byproduct of a fire retardant, TPP.
  • 00:19:56
    >> What was it like receiving the results?
  • 00:19:58
    I mean, you work so hard um on your body
  • 00:20:01
    and keeping everything perfect. So, what
  • 00:20:05
    was that like?
  • 00:20:06
    >> It was a pretty terrifying time. The
  • 00:20:08
    fires were raging in Los Angeles. I did
  • 00:20:11
    not know if the house would burn down.
  • 00:20:14
    And uh I also had my son with me. We we
  • 00:20:16
    talked about leaving town. We wondered
  • 00:20:18
    if we'd be okay. We wondered if the
  • 00:20:20
    fires could be contained. We we were not
  • 00:20:22
    quite sure what to do in retrospect. I
  • 00:20:24
    think the correct decision would have
  • 00:20:26
    been to leave town uh for the toxins.
  • 00:20:28
    But in that moment, I was really
  • 00:20:30
    thinking more like are we going to lose
  • 00:20:32
    the home and everything we've ever um
  • 00:20:34
    you everything we have in those
  • 00:20:36
    situations, you're not thinking about
  • 00:20:38
    those things. But when I got the
  • 00:20:39
    results, I mean, after things calm down,
  • 00:20:40
    the fires um were out. Yeah. Seeing the
  • 00:20:44
    toxins, it was obviously devastating
  • 00:20:46
    because we are so meticulous with my
  • 00:20:50
    health. like every single calorie that
  • 00:20:52
    goes into my body, we've looked at
  • 00:20:54
    scientific evidence and then just to
  • 00:20:55
    bathe myself with chem with chemicals.
  • 00:20:57
    That's the the sad part. But there is a
  • 00:21:00
    a now a a next chapter that is actually
  • 00:21:03
    positive that we can get into because
  • 00:21:06
    once I got bathed in toxins, we said as
  • 00:21:08
    a team, what can we do about the
  • 00:21:10
    situation?
  • 00:21:11
    >> Yeah. Make make the most of it.
  • 00:21:13
    >> Yeah. The first part of the podcast, you
  • 00:21:14
    guys, we're going to go down the various
  • 00:21:16
    categories of toxins. So we talked about
  • 00:21:19
    VOCC's, phalates, industrial solvents,
  • 00:21:23
    like all the stuff that that happened as
  • 00:21:25
    a I mean in the wildfires, but that we
  • 00:21:27
    see in our uh environment also in
  • 00:21:29
    fireworks. Another toxin that we
  • 00:21:30
    recently tested is PAS. These are the
  • 00:21:34
    forever chemicals and so these are the
  • 00:21:35
    ones that you accumulate primarily in uh
  • 00:21:38
    water, non-stick pans, um fast food
  • 00:21:42
    wrappers. They accumulate in the body
  • 00:21:45
    cannot eliminate them. They're a class
  • 00:21:47
    of 12,000 plus man-made chemicals used
  • 00:21:51
    to make things again like in water um
  • 00:21:53
    stain resistant, heat resistant kinds of
  • 00:21:55
    things.
  • 00:21:56
    >> So, Mike, what what are PAS?
  • 00:21:58
    >> PAS are well, they're called forever
  • 00:22:00
    chemicals because they're really hard to
  • 00:22:01
    excrete. And the reason for that,
  • 00:22:03
    honestly, is just because our bodies
  • 00:22:05
    didn't evolve to live with them, right?
  • 00:22:08
    These are things that we created after
  • 00:22:10
    our our system evolved to where it
  • 00:22:12
    currently is. So, our our system's not
  • 00:22:14
    prepared to manage them. our kidneys
  • 00:22:16
    reabsorb them as as opposed to pee them
  • 00:22:18
    out. Our liver doesn't know how to
  • 00:22:20
    handle them or break them down. The
  • 00:22:21
    bonds in these chemicals are some of the
  • 00:22:23
    strongest in nature and because of that
  • 00:22:26
    we don't have a metabolic pathway to
  • 00:22:27
    break those bonds to clear out those
  • 00:22:30
    chemicals. So it turns out that the only
  • 00:22:31
    way we can get rid of them is through
  • 00:22:33
    like non-urinary excretion pathways. So
  • 00:22:36
    things like sweating, breast milk,
  • 00:22:38
    ministration, child birth, the gut, you
  • 00:22:41
    can also um actually like excrete these
  • 00:22:43
    through stool to some extent. So, the
  • 00:22:45
    only real pathways we know about that
  • 00:22:47
    get rid of these chemicals are those
  • 00:22:48
    that I mentioned with a few interesting
  • 00:22:51
    opportunities around sweating, so sauna,
  • 00:22:54
    which we'll talk about, as well as stool
  • 00:22:56
    with um these fiber compounds that can
  • 00:22:58
    help sort of bind these chemicals and
  • 00:23:01
    help you help your body excrete them
  • 00:23:02
    through stool. But because they're so
  • 00:23:04
    hard to get rid of, the halflife of
  • 00:23:06
    these things is like on the order of
  • 00:23:07
    years. So when you ingest that chemical,
  • 00:23:09
    you're looking at like 2 4 6 8 years
  • 00:23:12
    before you're actually going to get rid
  • 00:23:14
    of the majority of that chemical. And
  • 00:23:16
    the challenge that we have now in our in
  • 00:23:18
    this world is that they are in every
  • 00:23:21
    water supply.
  • 00:23:22
    >> Like that's not an overstatement.
  • 00:23:23
    >> At the very depths of the ocean, like
  • 00:23:26
    literally everywhere. So the challenge
  • 00:23:28
    becomes how do we prevent exposure and
  • 00:23:31
    maximize the opportunity for clearance,
  • 00:23:34
    which is which is not an easy one. It's
  • 00:23:36
    worth noting that PAS contamination like
  • 00:23:39
    you were mentioning in the oceans. So
  • 00:23:41
    PFOS
  • 00:23:42
    has a 41-year halflife in the ocean and
  • 00:23:47
    PFOA has a 92year halflife.
  • 00:23:50
    >> Gosh, that's wild. So it's like, right,
  • 00:23:52
    guys, like strap in, get comfortable.
  • 00:23:54
    Like we're going to be hanging out for a
  • 00:23:55
    while. Like our kids are going to be
  • 00:23:56
    hanging out with these chemicals.
  • 00:23:58
    They're better at longevity than Brian.
  • 00:24:00
    And those chemicals themselves disrupt
  • 00:24:02
    the algae that um manages carbon dioxide
  • 00:24:06
    in the ocean. So it's actually like
  • 00:24:09
    >> oh gosh
  • 00:24:10
    >> I didn't I didn't know if I wanted to
  • 00:24:11
    actually say that part or not. I'm
  • 00:24:12
    worried about scaring Kate more.
  • 00:24:15
    >> In the uh clinical studies the half-
  • 00:24:18
    livives within uh humans looks like PFOS
  • 00:24:21
    is 3.4 to 5.7 years. PFOA 1.5 to 5 years
  • 00:24:25
    and PFHXS is 2.5 to 8.5. So Mike, just
  • 00:24:28
    what you said, it's multiple years for a
  • 00:24:31
    halfife. And because they're so
  • 00:24:33
    disruptive and a teeny tiny amount is so
  • 00:24:35
    disruptive, you want to be extra careful
  • 00:24:37
    with PAS.
  • 00:24:38
    >> And I think if I'm not mistaken that
  • 00:24:41
    there was a study that showed that,
  • 00:24:42
    don't quote me on this, but from Okay,
  • 00:24:44
    maybe I shouldn't say this cuz I know
  • 00:24:47
    >> somebody's going to quote you.
  • 00:24:48
    >> Okay, I I literally have my fingers on
  • 00:24:50
    the keyboard ready to quote you.
  • 00:24:53
    >> It's going to get tweeted
  • 00:24:54
    >> immediately. I was going to say that I
  • 00:24:56
    don't think there's been blood samples
  • 00:24:58
    that haven't had peass found in them
  • 00:25:00
    like that. It's it's in all of our
  • 00:25:02
    bodies. Like there is no one who can
  • 00:25:03
    escape a war,
  • 00:25:04
    >> right? Inescapable.
  • 00:25:06
    >> Yeah, exactly. Given that and Brian,
  • 00:25:08
    you've been meticulous as we know about
  • 00:25:10
    everything you put in your body. I was
  • 00:25:12
    really curious to see what your results
  • 00:25:13
    came back as. Like would this be another
  • 00:25:15
    wildfire situation where you were like
  • 00:25:17
    all of us and were exposed to it or do
  • 00:25:20
    you have um low levels? Yeah, I had the
  • 00:25:22
    same questions because the effects are
  • 00:25:25
    pretty bad. Lowers sperm count, disrupts
  • 00:25:28
    thyroid hormones, suppresses the immune
  • 00:25:30
    system, elevates cholesterol, creates
  • 00:25:31
    liver damage, increases cancer risk,
  • 00:25:34
    causes neurodedevelopmental issues,
  • 00:25:36
    lower fertility in women. So, it really
  • 00:25:38
    does wreak havoc on the body on all
  • 00:25:41
    systems. And these are all things of
  • 00:25:42
    course we measure on a routine basis.
  • 00:25:44
    So, I was really in in a heightened
  • 00:25:48
    state of awareness of what these results
  • 00:25:50
    would come back. And Kate ordered the
  • 00:25:52
    test before me. Then they sold out. And
  • 00:25:54
    then Kate gave me her test in an act of
  • 00:25:56
    generosity.
  • 00:25:57
    >> For science.
  • 00:25:59
    >> For science. You've since taken your
  • 00:26:00
    test, right?
  • 00:26:01
    >> I haven't got my results back.
  • 00:26:03
    >> But no, you took it.
  • 00:26:04
    >> I haven't. It's actually sitting right
  • 00:26:06
    here.
  • 00:26:07
    >> You have taken it?
  • 00:26:08
    >> I have a stack of fingerprint tests that
  • 00:26:11
    I need to do, but yeah, I've got it
  • 00:26:12
    right here. I know. Okay. I'm not not
  • 00:26:14
    everyone is like you, Brian, that can
  • 00:26:15
    do.
  • 00:26:16
    >> Okay. This is catastrophic.
  • 00:26:18
    Can we talk about the psychological
  • 00:26:20
    factors that contribute to the test
  • 00:26:22
    sitting on your desk?
  • 00:26:23
    >> I need therapy on this.
  • 00:26:25
    >> Enter the health shaming.
  • 00:26:27
    >> Kate, what's going on?
  • 00:26:28
    >> I need help.
  • 00:26:30
    >> Do I Do I need to be your testing uh
  • 00:26:33
    verification partner?
  • 00:26:34
    >> Support. Support buddy.
  • 00:26:36
    >> Okay, you know what? We're getting
  • 00:26:37
    together for a few events today, right?
  • 00:26:39
    Bring your test and we're going to do it
  • 00:26:41
    together.
  • 00:26:43
    >> Okay, sold. You know what, Brian? I've
  • 00:26:45
    been waiting for this moment because the
  • 00:26:46
    other thing that I haven't done is my
  • 00:26:49
    latest pace of aging test.
  • 00:26:51
    >> Yeah,
  • 00:26:51
    >> I've got a few that I need to get caught
  • 00:26:53
    up.
  • 00:26:53
    >> Bring them on over. We will have a blood
  • 00:26:55
    party.
  • 00:26:57
    >> Also, on the low fertility stuff, um,
  • 00:27:00
    something that stuck with me was that
  • 00:27:02
    higher levels of PAS are linked to a 40%
  • 00:27:05
    lower chance of getting pregnant as a
  • 00:27:07
    woman. So, I know fertility is a really
  • 00:27:08
    hot topic for people. People are having
  • 00:27:10
    children later. And so that's a very
  • 00:27:12
    scary and real statistic around why you
  • 00:27:15
    don't want to get exposed to these
  • 00:27:17
    chemicals.
  • 00:27:17
    >> Yeah, these chemicals directly reduce
  • 00:27:19
    steroid hormone production as well as
  • 00:27:21
    thyroid hormone production. So they get
  • 00:27:23
    stuck in our body, enter every cell, and
  • 00:27:26
    not only are they causing some of the
  • 00:27:27
    things that Brian mentioned like
  • 00:27:28
    oxidative stress, increasing cholesterol
  • 00:27:30
    by mimicking other fatty acids, but
  • 00:27:32
    they're actually changing the way our
  • 00:27:34
    DNA is expressed at the very like basic
  • 00:27:37
    level of human health. Again, not trying
  • 00:27:39
    to scare, just educate. Wait, can you
  • 00:27:42
    try again for someone like myself who
  • 00:27:44
    has no like what is steroid production?
  • 00:27:46
    I've never even heard of that before.
  • 00:27:48
    >> Yeah. So like testosterone, estrogen,
  • 00:27:50
    >> I see
  • 00:27:51
    >> any of the sex hormones. It's going to
  • 00:27:53
    reduce the production and the um
  • 00:27:56
    adequacy of the way the system operates.
  • 00:27:57
    So not just like reducing production,
  • 00:27:59
    but how it responds to a situation where
  • 00:28:01
    your hormone should be higher or lower,
  • 00:28:03
    which is obviously very important for
  • 00:28:05
    women who are going through these cyclic
  • 00:28:06
    changes throughout their month. that
  • 00:28:08
    gets altered when you have higher levels
  • 00:28:10
    of PAS.
  • 00:28:11
    >> Wild. Okay. So, Brian, drum roll. What
  • 00:28:13
    were your results?
  • 00:28:14
    >> Yeah. So, I was I'm just asking um an AI
  • 00:28:17
    tool if there's PAS in fireworks.
  • 00:28:22
    >> We're really on a vengeance against
  • 00:28:23
    fireworks. I also just like sidebar, I
  • 00:28:26
    don't understand fireworks. I don't get
  • 00:28:28
    it. I don't get the appeal. Do you guys
  • 00:28:30
    feel something when you watch fireworks?
  • 00:28:32
    >> I think so. There. So, you see these
  • 00:28:34
    huge explosions in the sky that are that
  • 00:28:36
    are beautiful. You feel them. You hear
  • 00:28:39
    them later than you see them. Like, it's
  • 00:28:41
    like physics happening before your eyes.
  • 00:28:44
    Admission. I took my kids to the the
  • 00:28:46
    fireworks show
  • 00:28:48
    >> on July 4th.
  • 00:28:50
    >> We stayed up late because it's not till
  • 00:28:52
    10:00. Um, which is way past my bedtime.
  • 00:28:54
    But I was feeling guilty as a like I'm a
  • 00:28:56
    bad father. I'm not taking my kids to
  • 00:28:58
    the fireworks show. We were initially
  • 00:28:59
    like, "No, we're not staying up late.
  • 00:29:00
    Our family doesn't stay up late. We're
  • 00:29:01
    going to bed." And then I felt guilty.
  • 00:29:03
    So I took them and we were like, you
  • 00:29:05
    know, a mile and a half from the
  • 00:29:06
    fireworks themselves. So I I'm not
  • 00:29:09
    confident. I never smelled anything. I'm
  • 00:29:11
    not confident they had any exposure
  • 00:29:12
    whatsoever. But they were stoked. They
  • 00:29:14
    got to watch this like beautiful like,
  • 00:29:16
    you know, thing in the sky and it was
  • 00:29:18
    amazing and the wind was blowing and I
  • 00:29:20
    don't know,
  • 00:29:20
    >> Mike, you're you're safe here.
  • 00:29:22
    >> I feel where people are coming from
  • 00:29:24
    where it's like we can you can villain
  • 00:29:27
    you literally can find a paper to
  • 00:29:29
    villainize anything, right? Like if you
  • 00:29:31
    look at science from that perspective.
  • 00:29:32
    So like at some point we have to make
  • 00:29:34
    decisions around what's important for
  • 00:29:35
    social interaction and connection and
  • 00:29:37
    awe and wonder and what is reasonable to
  • 00:29:41
    extract from that equation to improve
  • 00:29:43
    our health. And I think that equation is
  • 00:29:45
    different for everybody and I think
  • 00:29:46
    that's okay. I don't think it has to be
  • 00:29:48
    perfect. But I do like
  • 00:29:50
    >> what you guys are doing while you're
  • 00:29:51
    educating like you know hey if you're
  • 00:29:53
    going to make this conscious decision to
  • 00:29:54
    expose yourself to firework smoke at
  • 00:29:56
    least know that it's bad for you right?
  • 00:29:58
    like at least make a conscious decision
  • 00:30:00
    as opposed to the decision most people
  • 00:30:01
    are making currently which is
  • 00:30:02
    uninformed.
  • 00:30:03
    >> Yeah. And ultimately what we're saying
  • 00:30:06
    is that fireworks we're not quite sure
  • 00:30:09
    where it hits on the threshold and
  • 00:30:10
    whether we're willing to make that or
  • 00:30:12
    not willing to make it. And the point of
  • 00:30:14
    the conversation is to have the
  • 00:30:15
    conversation. We might collectively be
  • 00:30:16
    like you know what totally worth it.
  • 00:30:19
    Love the feeling of the seeing the
  • 00:30:20
    fireworks. Like absolutely worth it.
  • 00:30:22
    >> You guys populated the airwaves with
  • 00:30:24
    certain way certain mental models. I'm
  • 00:30:26
    going to populate the airwaves and say
  • 00:30:28
    don't
  • 00:30:30
    don't bathe yourself in chemicals on
  • 00:30:32
    purpose and call it fun because there's
  • 00:30:35
    so many voices that say oh in moderation
  • 00:30:38
    oh have a little bit or like we want
  • 00:30:40
    purpose and connection. It's all
  • 00:30:42
    storytelling. We you as a human you can
  • 00:30:45
    definitely thrive and be happy and feel
  • 00:30:48
    connected and have fun and be a great
  • 00:30:51
    family. Mike, this is not shaming you.
  • 00:30:53
    Um, without without lathering each other
  • 00:30:56
    up with chemicals. And I feel like the
  • 00:30:59
    the dominant voices in society want to
  • 00:31:03
    path this thing down because it is it's
  • 00:31:05
    a collective assessment of it's kind of
  • 00:31:08
    like you can't change society on a dime.
  • 00:31:11
    We do want to be socially inclusive. You
  • 00:31:14
    want to be involved. Like I totally
  • 00:31:15
    understand all those arguments. that the
  • 00:31:17
    problem is those arguments lead people
  • 00:31:19
    to this consiliatory mark where they
  • 00:31:21
    conclude well I guess we continue on and
  • 00:31:25
    there's very few voices saying this is a
  • 00:31:28
    bad idea like just full stop so if I can
  • 00:31:31
    populate the airwaves and be that voice
  • 00:31:33
    in society I think I would play that
  • 00:31:35
    role
  • 00:31:35
    >> I think it's a worthwhile contribution
  • 00:31:37
    >> okay my results so I got a a total PFA
  • 00:31:42
    PFOS PFXs
  • 00:31:45
    I got a full panel Pass and
  • 00:31:49
    and this
  • 00:31:51
    >> a lot of acronyms starting with P.
  • 00:31:53
    That's the
  • 00:31:54
    >> and the the summary is my my PFOA levels
  • 00:31:58
    are in the lowest 25% for US men aged 20
  • 00:32:02
    to 49. They use that because it
  • 00:32:04
    accumulates over time. And uh my PFOS
  • 00:32:08
    and my PFXXS
  • 00:32:09
    are in the lowest 25% compared to boys
  • 00:32:12
    aged 12 to 19. And so, relatively
  • 00:32:15
    speaking, my levels are low. This is
  • 00:32:18
    kind of surprising to me because I just
  • 00:32:21
    started Blueprint five years ago. Before
  • 00:32:23
    that, I did not know that. I mean, I
  • 00:32:25
    guess I was peripherilally aware that
  • 00:32:28
    non-stick pans were bad because of
  • 00:32:30
    various reasons, but otherwise, I have
  • 00:32:33
    not had great water filtration systems.
  • 00:32:35
    I've not been aware of these things
  • 00:32:37
    throughout my life. So, I'm really
  • 00:32:38
    surprised these results did not come
  • 00:32:40
    back higher because my life has been a
  • 00:32:43
    typical American uh lifestyle with all
  • 00:32:46
    the toxins in our food supply and
  • 00:32:47
    everything else, all the materials we
  • 00:32:49
    have. So, very surprised. I wonder
  • 00:32:51
    actually if what we've been doing with
  • 00:32:53
    Blueprint over the past 5 years
  • 00:32:55
    effectively lowered my levels in ways
  • 00:32:57
    which we don't yet know. But I'm I'm
  • 00:32:59
    really surprised. I should be a I should
  • 00:33:01
    be on par with everybody else at this
  • 00:33:04
    point because I I don't think I've lived
  • 00:33:05
    that differently from most. If if
  • 00:33:06
    anything, I think many of my habits
  • 00:33:09
    before I started Blueprint were worse,
  • 00:33:11
    much worse than the average person.
  • 00:33:12
    >> Well, there's probably multiple things
  • 00:33:13
    that you've been doing recently at least
  • 00:33:15
    that have improved these, right? Like,
  • 00:33:17
    how long have you had your water
  • 00:33:18
    filtration system? It's years, right?
  • 00:33:20
    >> Five five years now.
  • 00:33:21
    >> Five years of water filtration. So, you
  • 00:33:22
    effectively have and that's probably the
  • 00:33:25
    largest source of POS for the majority
  • 00:33:28
    of humans on Earth is water. So
  • 00:33:30
    exclusively drinking or almost
  • 00:33:32
    exclusively drinking from an adequate
  • 00:33:34
    reverse osmosis system, you're likely
  • 00:33:37
    significantly reducing your exposure.
  • 00:33:39
    And then you're also doing lots of
  • 00:33:40
    things to increase excretion. You like
  • 00:33:43
    blueprint gives you lots of
  • 00:33:45
    antioxidants. So you're you are going to
  • 00:33:47
    be doing a better job of clearing
  • 00:33:48
    toxins. Uh high-fiber diet, you're
  • 00:33:51
    likely clearing more toxins through your
  • 00:33:53
    stool because of that. So you know, you
  • 00:33:56
    don't eat meat, which is another big
  • 00:33:57
    source of pas. So, like there are things
  • 00:34:00
    that I think have probably got you in
  • 00:34:02
    this lower 25 percentile for sure.
  • 00:34:04
    >> Also, I'd like to do one other fact
  • 00:34:06
    check to make sure that from my
  • 00:34:07
    understanding, it's not non-stick pans
  • 00:34:09
    that are the problem. It's the
  • 00:34:10
    construction of non-stick pans. So, it's
  • 00:34:12
    not like you don't want to use non-stick
  • 00:34:14
    pans in the home because there's microp
  • 00:34:16
    or PAS in there. It's that the
  • 00:34:18
    manufacturing of those products.
  • 00:34:20
    >> Both are true, I think. So manufacturing
  • 00:34:22
    the products is the primary source of
  • 00:34:23
    the the PAS that um PFOA which is the
  • 00:34:28
    really bad one that everybody tries to
  • 00:34:30
    avoid that was used to make teflon pans
  • 00:34:32
    for a long time. But also teflon pans
  • 00:34:34
    and non-stick pans when they get to a
  • 00:34:36
    certain temperature they do start to
  • 00:34:38
    release volatile compounds. While
  • 00:34:40
    they're not as bad as the PFOA that was
  • 00:34:43
    made to make the pan, they're still not
  • 00:34:44
    necessarily good. So the teflon itself
  • 00:34:47
    is relatively inert until you heat it to
  • 00:34:49
    high levels or when you scratch it,
  • 00:34:51
    things like that. So in general, they're
  • 00:34:53
    not as bad, I think, as most people
  • 00:34:55
    think that they are. It's actually the
  • 00:34:56
    process of making them that that creates
  • 00:34:58
    the majority of the compounds that are
  • 00:34:59
    bad for you.
  • 00:35:01
    >> Cool. So still don't get them. Don't
  • 00:35:03
    feed the economy and avoid having to
  • 00:35:06
    expose yourself to them later on when
  • 00:35:07
    they degrade.
  • 00:35:08
    >> So you can actually look this up online.
  • 00:35:10
    You can look up um the uh PAS levels of
  • 00:35:13
    every uh not every but almost every
  • 00:35:16
    tested water um municipal water system
  • 00:35:19
    and it's actually a pretty cool
  • 00:35:20
    calculator where you can put in how long
  • 00:35:22
    you've lived in that place, your age I
  • 00:35:24
    think and then the um the water
  • 00:35:27
    municipal water supply you're using and
  • 00:35:28
    it'll estimate your your serum pas
  • 00:35:31
    levels and for me it was like almost
  • 00:35:33
    perfect. I would like to indicate that
  • 00:35:35
    I'm getting stressed by this
  • 00:35:37
    conversation and I suspect that I'm no
  • 00:35:40
    no I suspect I'm not alone in this if
  • 00:35:43
    people so if you're listening bear with
  • 00:35:44
    us I am with you. It is stressful.
  • 00:35:48
    Can we talk about how to reduce toxins?
  • 00:35:50
    >> Yeah, Kate just messaged me privately
  • 00:35:53
    about the situation.
  • 00:35:56
    >> I messaged Ryan. I was like I I don't
  • 00:35:59
    have a water filtration.
  • 00:36:01
    >> I responded easy to solve Kate. I've
  • 00:36:03
    I've got you. We've got We'll get two
  • 00:36:05
    tests done today. We'll get a water
  • 00:36:07
    filtration system. It We can get the
  • 00:36:09
    same one I have at the house. It will be
  • 00:36:10
    an easy fix. Yeah, you're good. Mike has
  • 00:36:13
    one already.
  • 00:36:14
    >> You got the full setup, Mike?
  • 00:36:15
    >> Yeah, I got one off Amazon for like 300
  • 00:36:17
    bucks. It wasn't wasn't too bad.
  • 00:36:18
    >> All right, let's get to the good stuff,
  • 00:36:20
    please. Can we soothe our souls?
  • 00:36:24
    >> Can we just start with like the good
  • 00:36:25
    news? The good news is that like I think
  • 00:36:27
    Brian is an example of the opportunity
  • 00:36:31
    to reduce toxin exposure. So Brian's
  • 00:36:33
    done a good job of implementing tools in
  • 00:36:36
    his life to reduce exposure and also to
  • 00:36:40
    help clear um the toxins in the first
  • 00:36:42
    place. So there is like light at the end
  • 00:36:44
    of the tunnel of this this chronic
  • 00:36:47
    exposure of toxins that we're all
  • 00:36:48
    dealing with in the world.
  • 00:36:49
    >> Yeah. So the to pile on what Mike said
  • 00:36:52
    this um it should give you hope that on
  • 00:36:55
    several fronts. So, we mentioned this,
  • 00:36:57
    my most recent microplastics test, I had
  • 00:37:01
    one microplastic particle in the sample
  • 00:37:04
    I provided, and that was in the lowest
  • 00:37:07
    uh 1% of the 4,000 samples we've
  • 00:37:10
    collected. So, a 93% reduction from my
  • 00:37:12
    previous levels of microplastics. So,
  • 00:37:15
    that was a big one. And then two is we
  • 00:37:17
    did the same toxin test that we did post
  • 00:37:19
    the LA fires. And after 20 or so sauna
  • 00:37:24
    sessions, it annihilated those toxins.
  • 00:37:26
    So there was also probably some natural
  • 00:37:29
    tapering off of those toxins cuz they do
  • 00:37:31
    cycle through the body, but also just a
  • 00:37:34
    dramatic reduction in toxins in the
  • 00:37:36
    body. So two really strong results. And
  • 00:37:39
    then the PAS results I think were also
  • 00:37:41
    very positive. The sauna is not going to
  • 00:37:44
    remove PAS, but also like Mike was
  • 00:37:45
    saying, the diet I maintain uh is a very
  • 00:37:49
    pro-toxin removal diet. So, these things
  • 00:37:53
    do have compounded effects. And this is
  • 00:37:54
    what we talk about, you guys. You can
  • 00:37:56
    piece this together. We've tried to be
  • 00:37:57
    the most thoughtful group in the entire
  • 00:37:59
    world on how you systematically address
  • 00:38:02
    longevity. And so, everything we do from
  • 00:38:04
    like the what you put into your mouth to
  • 00:38:06
    the exercise protocols to sleep, um all
  • 00:38:09
    of it has this holistic effect. So
  • 00:38:11
    hopefully you feel encouraged that you
  • 00:38:13
    hear the the conversation today is
  • 00:38:16
    specifically about toxins, but more
  • 00:38:18
    broadly we're trying to say that that
  • 00:38:20
    the protocol we've built is I think best
  • 00:38:23
    in world for approaching health overall.
  • 00:38:25
    So a few things on the specifics. I have
  • 00:38:28
    a a um that reverse osmosis water system
  • 00:38:31
    in my house. I paid $1,300 for it. It
  • 00:38:35
    sits beneath the sink. Mike has one
  • 00:38:38
    that's a few hundred. They're
  • 00:38:40
    competitive in price. Kate, you will get
  • 00:38:42
    yours, too. It's reverse osmosis and
  • 00:38:44
    then there's a remmineralization that
  • 00:38:46
    happens. So, that's a good way to
  • 00:38:47
    eliminate a lot of toxins from uh water.
  • 00:38:51
    I also have an air filtration system.
  • 00:38:53
    So, I bought a commercial grade system.
  • 00:38:56
    I bought the IQ Air Health Pro Plus XE.
  • 00:38:59
    It's a bit expensive. It's about $1,000
  • 00:39:02
    per filter. And I bought several of
  • 00:39:03
    these to be throughout the house because
  • 00:39:05
    we're trying to maintain uh perfect air
  • 00:39:07
    quality in the house at all times.
  • 00:39:09
    There's many other air filtration
  • 00:39:11
    systems that are competitive with, so
  • 00:39:13
    you do not need to spend that kind of
  • 00:39:14
    money. But having a a high quality air
  • 00:39:17
    filter in your house is good. Even more
  • 00:39:20
    powerful is having a a high MV filter in
  • 00:39:24
    your HVAC system. So if you can have a
  • 00:39:27
    MV 13, that's ideal, but you need to
  • 00:39:30
    make sure that your system is rated for
  • 00:39:32
    whatever number you're going to have.
  • 00:39:34
    Some systems can only take like a MV 8
  • 00:39:36
    or MV 9. The higher the number, the
  • 00:39:38
    better the filtration system.
  • 00:39:40
    >> Can I just tell you guys a story about
  • 00:39:41
    air filters?
  • 00:39:42
    >> Yes.
  • 00:39:42
    >> I live in Oregon, uh, in central Oregon.
  • 00:39:44
    We get, uh, lots of fires, um, uh, near
  • 00:39:47
    us that often blow over us. So, we get
  • 00:39:50
    smoke plumes during CO um, was one of
  • 00:39:53
    the first worst fires that we that we
  • 00:39:55
    experienced. And the air quality outside
  • 00:39:56
    for um threeish months or so was between
  • 00:40:01
    like 200 and 300 um PM2.5 which is you
  • 00:40:05
    know an average of at least like 2x LA
  • 00:40:09
    maybe like 3x LA
  • 00:40:11
    >> 5x
  • 00:40:11
    >> 5x sorry it was it was really bad.
  • 00:40:13
    >> It's actually 5 to 10. That's that's
  • 00:40:15
    incredibly high.
  • 00:40:17
    >> Really high.
  • 00:40:18
    >> Yeah. So you know like there's the
  • 00:40:19
    purple air app that allows you to like
  • 00:40:20
    check the air quality. We actually had
  • 00:40:22
    purple air.
  • 00:40:24
    literally. So, but it's and there are no
  • 00:40:28
    air filtration systems available in
  • 00:40:31
    stores or online. Like Amazon sold out,
  • 00:40:34
    uh Home Depot sold out. So, I finally
  • 00:40:38
    found some box fans. I borrowed box fans
  • 00:40:40
    from friends and bought these HVAC
  • 00:40:43
    filters and literally duct taped the
  • 00:40:45
    taped them to the back of the H the um
  • 00:40:48
    the box fans and made two of them. kept
  • 00:40:51
    them in my house because my HVAC, even
  • 00:40:52
    though I had a MV 13 like Brian's
  • 00:40:54
    talking about, which is an ideal level
  • 00:40:56
    for for air quality, it wasn't enough
  • 00:40:59
    because it the air was just so bad
  • 00:41:00
    outside. I mean, like I had to like I
  • 00:41:02
    literally taped the doors. I had like
  • 00:41:05
    saran wrap over the ventilation fans in
  • 00:41:07
    the bathrooms cuz the smoke was like
  • 00:41:09
    drifting down from the ventilation fans.
  • 00:41:10
    So, I built these I built these tools.
  • 00:41:12
    Funny thing, now you can actually buy
  • 00:41:14
    these pre-made. So, like on Amazon for
  • 00:41:17
    like 70 bucks, you can buy a a box fan
  • 00:41:20
    that literally just has like a little
  • 00:41:21
    attachment for it that you put an HVAC
  • 00:41:23
    filter on the back of. So, it's just
  • 00:41:25
    sort of funny that like I like rigged
  • 00:41:27
    this thing that then, you know, 5 years
  • 00:41:29
    later people were like, "Oh, this this
  • 00:41:30
    works. We should just sell these."
  • 00:41:31
    >> That's a very clever idea.
  • 00:41:32
    >> There's lots of tools out there where
  • 00:41:33
    you can get filtration for, you know,
  • 00:41:36
    afford in affordable ways. Um, but the
  • 00:41:39
    the point that you made about um the
  • 00:41:40
    HVAC, Brian, is important. That's the
  • 00:41:42
    best tool you can use to improve your
  • 00:41:44
    indoor air quality is just making sure
  • 00:41:46
    you have an adequate filter on your
  • 00:41:47
    HVAC.
  • 00:41:48
    >> Mhm.
  • 00:41:48
    >> Mike, did you guys experience uh any
  • 00:41:51
    kind of medium or long-term negative
  • 00:41:53
    health effects from this?
  • 00:41:55
    >> I'm sure 100%. Yeah. I mean, there there
  • 00:41:58
    there's there's no way. I mean, nothing
  • 00:42:00
    that I measured I didn't measure at the
  • 00:42:01
    time, but had I had done one of the
  • 00:42:03
    tests like you did, um I'm sure myself,
  • 00:42:06
    everyone in my family, everyone in the
  • 00:42:07
    area would have had similar exposures to
  • 00:42:09
    similar types of chemicals. now is
  • 00:42:11
    predominantly wood burning, not homes.
  • 00:42:15
    Um, so different sorts of exposures, but
  • 00:42:17
    wood wood burning still has PM2.5 that's
  • 00:42:19
    important um and and bad for health
  • 00:42:21
    outcomes. So, I'm sure everyone had had
  • 00:42:23
    bad and still does have bad effects from
  • 00:42:25
    from this exposure. So, that's why it's
  • 00:42:27
    important to at least mitigate your risk
  • 00:42:28
    while you're inside your home.
  • 00:42:29
    >> And also, like your anecdotal
  • 00:42:31
    experience, there's like two things
  • 00:42:33
    there. one is you can get these free
  • 00:42:35
    apps. So, at least you um can make
  • 00:42:38
    appropriate decisions dayto-day on how
  • 00:42:40
    much exposure you're getting to. Like
  • 00:42:41
    for us with the wild with the fireworks,
  • 00:42:43
    it was like, okay, today is a 150 p.m.
  • 00:42:47
    um 2.5 day, so we're not going to go
  • 00:42:49
    outside. We're not going to exercise
  • 00:42:51
    outside. So, that's free free apps. And
  • 00:42:54
    then filters are quite expensive. These
  • 00:42:55
    are alternative things you can do as
  • 00:42:56
    well. And the other thing is you can get
  • 00:42:58
    these um internal monitors. So, you can
  • 00:43:00
    have a monitor in your home. So you can
  • 00:43:01
    actually track are the interventions
  • 00:43:03
    that I'm doing in my home space actually
  • 00:43:05
    working um compared to outside air.
  • 00:43:08
    >> It's worthwhile noting too that the the
  • 00:43:10
    standards that the government the EPA
  • 00:43:12
    sets for air quality are they're a touch
  • 00:43:15
    different than what the research
  • 00:43:16
    suggests. So the research would suggest
  • 00:43:18
    that basically once you get above 50 um
  • 00:43:22
    there start to be health effects.
  • 00:43:23
    There's many places like for example my
  • 00:43:25
    hometown where kids sports still happen
  • 00:43:28
    up to 200 just because the EPA hasn't
  • 00:43:31
    directly come out and said that they
  • 00:43:32
    need to not. So things are things are
  • 00:43:35
    not necessarily to your benefit.
  • 00:43:37
    >> That is not a good situation.
  • 00:43:38
    >> Right now we're at 35. So to give an
  • 00:43:42
    idea of how easy and quick it is to get
  • 00:43:44
    this kind of data at your fingertips.
  • 00:43:45
    >> So all right next thing you can do. So
  • 00:43:47
    we talked about a HVAC filter. We talked
  • 00:43:49
    about an air filter inside the home.
  • 00:43:51
    also uh other things for example like um
  • 00:43:56
    wrappers for fast food. So there was a a
  • 00:43:59
    study done that showed over half tested
  • 00:44:02
    from major chains had it. So this is the
  • 00:44:04
    grease resistant paper that's uh molded
  • 00:44:06
    fiber and uh this was
  • 00:44:10
    uh is being pushed out in California but
  • 00:44:14
    still the you don't want to mess with
  • 00:44:16
    these uh they are potential camp
  • 00:44:19
    contaminants of PAS. So, that's a good
  • 00:44:21
    excuse to not eat fast food.
  • 00:44:24
    >> I think we already had good excuses.
  • 00:44:26
    I'll take that one, too.
  • 00:44:28
    >> Yeah,
  • 00:44:28
    >> just in case you're still considering
  • 00:44:30
    it. So, we've talked about reducing
  • 00:44:32
    exposure.
  • 00:44:33
    Now, let's cover how we can get rid of
  • 00:44:36
    it and then also your results, Brian,
  • 00:44:38
    after having tested again.
  • 00:44:39
    >> It's worth mentioning on our podcast on
  • 00:44:42
    microplastics, we went over the steps of
  • 00:44:44
    how you can minimize your exposure to
  • 00:44:47
    microplastics on a daily basis. You're
  • 00:44:49
    now toxin aare which is very positive.
  • 00:44:53
    And now you can make uh choices on the
  • 00:44:56
    few things you can do. You don't need to
  • 00:44:58
    be overboard, but just these big ones,
  • 00:45:00
    you know, water, air, avoiding things
  • 00:45:02
    like non-stick plant uh pans, don't eat
  • 00:45:05
    fast uh you know, fast food wrappers,
  • 00:45:07
    some of the bigger ones, and you can
  • 00:45:09
    make some big gains in reducing the
  • 00:45:11
    overall exposure.
  • 00:45:12
    >> So, Brian, we noticed a significant
  • 00:45:14
    change um uh with sauna. Do you want to
  • 00:45:16
    tell us a little bit about what happened
  • 00:45:18
    when um you tested your tested your
  • 00:45:21
    toxins uh after your sauna?
  • 00:45:22
    >> We recently started this protocol. It's
  • 00:45:25
    200 degrees Fahrenheit for 20 minutes.
  • 00:45:29
    That's 93° C and it's a dry sauna. We
  • 00:45:33
    chose that because it has more
  • 00:45:35
    compelling evidence and we were shocked
  • 00:45:38
    at the efficacy of toxin removal. Mike,
  • 00:45:42
    I think you mentioned you hadn't ever
  • 00:45:44
    seen such a dramatic reduction of any
  • 00:45:47
    kind of toxin removal therapy.
  • 00:45:49
    >> No, I had not. I I mean, I had also
  • 00:45:51
    never had anyone who like um religiously
  • 00:45:54
    does exactly what I tell them to do. So,
  • 00:45:56
    it might be just that you're uh you're
  • 00:45:59
    actually doing the sauna 20 minutes uh 7
  • 00:46:01
    days a week, 200 degrees. But it was I
  • 00:46:04
    mean we you basically went um those
  • 00:46:06
    results 95th percentile on what seven or
  • 00:46:08
    eight markers to like virtually zero.
  • 00:46:10
    >> Zero. Exactly.
  • 00:46:11
    >> And the time span, was it 3 weeks?
  • 00:46:13
    >> Yep. Uh 23 sessions. So we'll throw up
  • 00:46:15
    the results on screen,
  • 00:46:16
    >> which is crazy.
  • 00:46:17
    >> Yeah. And and I guess it could also be
  • 00:46:19
    the case that the sauna was coupled up
  • 00:46:22
    with the blueprint diet. So we're we're
  • 00:46:25
    high in in the fiber, the antioxidants,
  • 00:46:27
    and a lot of uh the nutrition. So I
  • 00:46:29
    wonder if it's a combination of diet,
  • 00:46:32
    exercise, sleep, sauna, like the
  • 00:46:34
    competatory effects of a body running
  • 00:46:37
    well. But it was it was a stunning
  • 00:46:39
    decrease. We'll put this up on screen,
  • 00:46:40
    but just to like rattle off some. And we
  • 00:46:42
    had a 100% drop in MEP, 15% drop in MP
  • 00:46:46
    BP, 100% drop in ME HP, which meant it
  • 00:46:51
    was undetectable post sauna. We had 56%
  • 00:46:53
    drop in NAP and H E MA, and 100% drop in
  • 00:46:59
    perlate across the board. A mixture of
  • 00:47:02
    somewhere probably between I would say
  • 00:47:04
    at least 50% across most markers. So,
  • 00:47:07
    wild change. And these are all of those
  • 00:47:10
    compounds that were increased
  • 00:47:12
    specifically from the LA fires and um
  • 00:47:15
    burning of materials that are inorganic.
  • 00:47:18
    >> There's other things that you were doing
  • 00:47:18
    as well too worth worth mentioning these
  • 00:47:20
    Brian like for example uh on the
  • 00:47:23
    blueprint diet you're naturally getting
  • 00:47:24
    high levels of antioxidants like vitamin
  • 00:47:27
    C uh in acetylcyine uh lots of
  • 00:47:30
    cruciferous vegetables like lots of
  • 00:47:32
    sulfur containing compounds like garlic.
  • 00:47:33
    So high levels of these antioxidants are
  • 00:47:36
    going to help your body's natural
  • 00:47:38
    defenses against toxins. So the body
  • 00:47:40
    naturally manages toxins with the
  • 00:47:43
    exception of the forever chemicals, the
  • 00:47:44
    POS.
  • 00:47:46
    And the way to help the body do that is
  • 00:47:49
    a a diet that's high in antioxidants. So
  • 00:47:52
    by getting these high levels of
  • 00:47:53
    antioxidants, you're going to do a much
  • 00:47:55
    better job of clearing quickly. So
  • 00:47:57
    that's also helping the sauna. So it's
  • 00:47:58
    not just sauna by itself. And then you
  • 00:48:00
    were still doing some Hbot, right?
  • 00:48:02
    >> Yes.
  • 00:48:03
    >> Yeah. HBO's likely going to have a
  • 00:48:04
    similar effect. So, anti-inflammatory
  • 00:48:06
    antioxidant effects that are going to
  • 00:48:08
    basically support those systems, the
  • 00:48:10
    anti-inflammatory antioxidant systems.
  • 00:48:12
    It's going to allow your body to manage
  • 00:48:14
    uh clearance of toxins a lot easier.
  • 00:48:16
    >> Okay. So, we can sauna, we can boost
  • 00:48:18
    antioxidants through diet and
  • 00:48:20
    supplementation. We can boost um
  • 00:48:23
    antioxidant anti-inflammatory defenses
  • 00:48:25
    through HBOT. What else can people do?
  • 00:48:28
    >> Yeah, and by the way, we should throw up
  • 00:48:29
    on screen the don't die food guide. So,
  • 00:48:32
    eat foods from this uh menu. And then
  • 00:48:36
    the blueprint stack has many of these
  • 00:48:39
    things that we're talking about. So, if
  • 00:48:40
    you want to do that, great. If you want
  • 00:48:42
    to go out and buy your own, go do it.
  • 00:48:44
    We're trying to make this easy for you
  • 00:48:46
    guys on how you can do this, you know,
  • 00:48:48
    in some kind of uh lowcost
  • 00:48:51
    uh time manageable way.
  • 00:48:53
    >> And then the last thing that we did
  • 00:48:54
    mention was um increasing your fiber
  • 00:48:56
    intake in general to also be able to
  • 00:48:59
    excrete it through stool.
  • 00:49:00
    >> Yeah. And that's most significant for
  • 00:49:01
    the for the POS chemicals as well. So
  • 00:49:03
    helping your body um helping your stool
  • 00:49:07
    grab onto those PAS chemicals and
  • 00:49:09
    excrete them. Um because otherwise they
  • 00:49:11
    get reabsorbed by the gut.
  • 00:49:12
    >> All right, you guys. There you have it.
  • 00:49:13
    Um am I more emotionally soothed? I
  • 00:49:16
    think so. It's definitely a scary topic.
  • 00:49:18
    It makes me sad that we don't have
  • 00:49:20
    better infrastructure to know what's
  • 00:49:22
    affecting our bodies. But also I'm very
  • 00:49:24
    happy that we're being really diligent
  • 00:49:26
    even if it is an end of one that we get
  • 00:49:28
    to have these novel insights to help
  • 00:49:30
    others. What do you guys think?
  • 00:49:32
    >> I take Brian as an example that there is
  • 00:49:34
    easy opportunity here for um for most
  • 00:49:37
    people that is even relatively
  • 00:49:39
    affordable in the sense of um water
  • 00:49:42
    filtration as an easy tool to reduce
  • 00:49:45
    exposure as well as just replacing your
  • 00:49:47
    HVAC filter with one that's slightly
  • 00:49:49
    stronger um or 13. like even if you did
  • 00:49:52
    just those two things, you're having a
  • 00:49:54
    really significant impact on your
  • 00:49:56
    overall health and your overall toxin
  • 00:49:58
    exposure. And that's um relatively
  • 00:50:00
    approachable for most people, which is
  • 00:50:02
    great. And I think hopefully we can help
  • 00:50:04
    educate people that um these are things
  • 00:50:05
    that they can do to take better care of
  • 00:50:07
    themselves and uh and their loved ones.
  • 00:50:10
    >> Yeah. And actually um again, like we
  • 00:50:12
    always come back to the same thing,
  • 00:50:13
    which is like the basics of health end
  • 00:50:15
    up covering off a lot of the majority
  • 00:50:17
    benefits that you would get from this
  • 00:50:19
    anyway. So um you know exercising,
  • 00:50:22
    excreting through through sweat, having
  • 00:50:24
    a fibrous diet. If you want to simplify
  • 00:50:26
    your health routine and not get stressed
  • 00:50:28
    out with this kind of stuff, just cover
  • 00:50:29
    the basics and you're off to a much
  • 00:50:31
    better start than majority of
  • 00:50:32
    population, especially here in America.
  • 00:50:34
    >> Yeah. And I also want to punch in and
  • 00:50:36
    offer some words of comfort because I
  • 00:50:38
    know this is very distressing. I mean,
  • 00:50:41
    for example, I know we mentioned this on
  • 00:50:43
    our podcast on microplastics. glass
  • 00:50:45
    bottles have five to 50x the
  • 00:50:48
    microplastics as plastic bottles and
  • 00:50:51
    that can lead to a feeling of despair
  • 00:50:53
    that no matter what you do, no matter
  • 00:50:55
    how hard you try, it's just unavoidable.
  • 00:50:57
    So therefore, yolo and just want to give
  • 00:51:00
    you some encouragement that it really is
  • 00:51:03
    about the journey. It's science is going
  • 00:51:06
    to change. We're going to be surprised
  • 00:51:08
    here and there. I mean, I discovered
  • 00:51:09
    this week that uh in doing the sauna, I
  • 00:51:12
    was accidentally using a towel that was
  • 00:51:15
    15% polyester. So, I was accidentally
  • 00:51:20
    I was accidentally wiping my body with
  • 00:51:24
    toxins when I was in the sauna to try to
  • 00:51:26
    remove toxins. Good bit of uh humorous
  • 00:51:29
    irony for you there, but it's going to
  • 00:51:31
    happen and it's fine. So try to get the
  • 00:51:33
    big ones in your life like we discussed
  • 00:51:36
    uh clean water, clean air. Just try to
  • 00:51:39
    avoid spikes of toxins where you have
  • 00:51:41
    control. For example, fireworks. But
  • 00:51:44
    it's really, you know, there's a there's
  • 00:51:45
    a limited return on this of going too
  • 00:51:47
    far. Just try to get the big ones right.
  • 00:51:50
    And we discussed like fast food is a
  • 00:51:52
    vector for these kinds of things. So a
  • 00:51:53
    few good decisions. And I would say that
  • 00:51:55
    you there's two different versions of
  • 00:51:56
    you. There's a version of you that is
  • 00:51:59
    soberminded and wants to be your best
  • 00:52:03
    self that hears these things and says,
  • 00:52:06
    "I'm on board." And there's a version of
  • 00:52:08
    you which is in the moment it's like,
  • 00:52:11
    "I'm just going to eat the the fast food
  • 00:52:12
    meal because of it's Saturday and I
  • 00:52:15
    deserve a break." And you know, whatever
  • 00:52:16
    your rationale is, try to channel your
  • 00:52:19
    best self and your best moments and then
  • 00:52:22
    make life choices. So this is what I did
  • 00:52:24
    when I fired evening Brian. Evening
  • 00:52:26
    Brian's the kind of guy who's gonna be
  • 00:52:28
    like, honestly, PA fast is not that bad.
  • 00:52:31
    Like, whatever. It's everywhere. You
  • 00:52:32
    can't avoid it, so you might as well.
  • 00:52:34
    And I just said, even Brian, you can't
  • 00:52:36
    have decision-making power anymore. So,
  • 00:52:38
    this is very much like a psychological
  • 00:52:39
    thing. It's very practical. So, I
  • 00:52:41
    understand the complexity of this. So, I
  • 00:52:43
    hope you don't feel overwhelmed. I hope
  • 00:52:45
    you see this is like a nice positive
  • 00:52:47
    step. We're doing this together. like
  • 00:52:49
    collectively we're becoming much more
  • 00:52:50
    aware of toxins and we will change
  • 00:52:53
    culture as we make these changes
  • 00:52:55
    together. So have hope we're going to be
  • 00:52:58
    okay. We're going to figure this out.
  • 00:53:00
    >> Perfect ending.
  • 00:53:00
    >> That was awesome.
  • 00:53:01
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