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There is huge censorship going on in
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gaming right now. I'm sure a lot of you
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saw Steam a few days back announced that
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hundreds of games have been pulled from
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their catalog because of the efforts of
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a group known as Collective Shout.
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Collective Shout is an organization that
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has been forcing payment processors to
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bully platforms into removing games they
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deem unfit for sale due to the uh themes
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around them. And for Steam's case, they
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targeted hundreds of adult games that
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featured like rape and incest. And a lot
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of people were pumping their fist like,
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"Yeah, that's good. How could you
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possibly be mad at that?" Less
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degeneracy and disgusting [ __ ] on the
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platform. This is a big W across the
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board. It's not censorship if it's
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things I don't like being taken down.
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Obviously, like every weapon out there,
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this is only going to be used for good.
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Clearly, they're only going to use this
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power to take down very bad gross
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things, which is the most low IQ take
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you could ever have. Collective Shout
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just yesterday has now also gone after
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it io and they have removed every single
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not suitable for work game from their
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platform. Not just rape and incest
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games, all adult games. We have
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de-indexed all adult NSFW content from
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our brows and search pages. We
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understand this action is sudden and
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disruptive and we are truly sorry for
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the frustration and confusion caused by
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this change. Recently, we came under
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scrutiny from our payment processors
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regarding the nature of some content
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hosted on H.io. Due to a game titled No
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Mercy, which was temporarily available
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on H.io before being banned back in
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April, the organization Collective Shout
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launched a campaign against Steam and
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H.io directing concerns to our payment
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processors about the nature of certain
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content found on both platforms. So,
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this is the playbook here. Collective
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Shout is a very powerful organization
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who somehow has a lot of leverage on
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payment processors. I don't know if
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they're just over there giving them
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perpetual wet willies or they got some
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serious dirt on like the upper echelon
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elites in the food chain at the payment
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processors like they got proof they're
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in the Epstein files or some [ __ ] but
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they have got these payment processors
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by the nutsack and they are squeezing
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the piss from their balls. So now the
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payment processors are laring as the
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moral authority on what people are
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allowed to spend the money they earned
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on. So, they are making these sweeping
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censorship changes to Steam and H.IO.
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Steam, they made it very easy for the
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public to not make a big stink about it
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because they went after a very
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lowhanging fruit target that most people
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aren't going to be upset about. Oh no,
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you lost all your rape and, you know,
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incest games. Boohoo, call the [ __ ]
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ambulance. But what people don't realize
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is that is clearly just the first step
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here. Collective Shout has now already
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taken that, which hasn't even been like
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a full week, and it's translated it to
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wiping all adult content from it.io, a
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totally separate platform, using the
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same methodology of having the payment
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processors threaten to leave them.
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Censorship is not something that is a
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good thing. This is not a positive
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thing. Yokotaro also came forward saying
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like, this is pretty bad stuff, you
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know, that other countries can now limit
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everyone else's free speech. He's right.
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That's not great. You don't like to see
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that. And let's go ahead and extend this
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to its natural conclusion here. As
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Collective Shout becomes more and more
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successful at censoring games, other
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organizations will spring up and do the
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same for things Collective Shout maybe
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doesn't want to see censored. Like,
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who's to say with this censorship, now
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that it's proven that it can be done by
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having the payment processors threaten
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to pull out of these services, if you
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can bully them through the payment
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processors, you win. That's checkmate.
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Who's to say an organization doesn't pop
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up that wants to take take away all
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kinds of LGBTQ
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uh representation in games? And now that
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they have a proven formula to follow,
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they could easily spring up and be
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probably very successful. Another
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organization could come about where they
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believe that games just shouldn't exist.
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Games should be focused purely to appeal
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to a younger demographic. They shouldn't
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be deep, thought-provoking games. There
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should be no violence. There could
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easily be a very puritanical
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organization that comes forward making
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similar pushes for censorship. I don't
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know how delusional you have to be to
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think that somehow this is only ever
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going to be used against bad things.
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It's not. And it's already extending way
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beyond what it started with for
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Collective Shout. They started with a
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very easy win on a genre of games that
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most people aren't really going to miss.
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And they have already extended that to
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just broad adult content from another
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platform, H.IO. And as they continue to
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be more successful, more organizations
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are going to follow that blueprint,
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follow those footsteps, and be
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successful as well, censoring other
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things that maybe Collective Shout
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doesn't want to see censored. It's going
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to just be [ __ ] pandemonium because
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it is clear now that these platforms are
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willing to go belly up, roll over, and
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suck the [ __ ] schme of the payment
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processing cartel that shackles them.
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These payment processing patriots who
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all of a sudden care so deeply about
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morality are able to get these platforms
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to censor themselves at the behest of
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the organizations that are strongarmming
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them. It's absurd. And it doesn't stop
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there. If you do any amount of research
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on Collective Shout, you'll see that
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it's not just like adult games. They
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also went after Detroit: Become Human
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and Grand Theft Auto 5 for absolutely
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[ __ ] outlandish reasons. Like this is
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actual horse hockey. And another scary
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fact, the article I was reading on
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stream, which I'm going to show you
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clips from so you can see about their
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previous attempts to go after things
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like Detroit: Become Human and GTA V,
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that article that I was reading then got
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taken down 8 hours after stream because
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Vice deemed it was a little too
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controversial because the article wasn't
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super favorable to Collective Shout. So,
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Collective Shout not only has pull in
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censoring games, but it looks like they
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can even take down some articles that
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are a little, you know, harsh on how
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they're going about their mission or
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what they're trying to do here. In other
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words, it seems virtually impossible for
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Steam to host any adult games depicting
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child abuse. Rather, Collective Shout
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may be targeting popular video games
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that depict children in scenarios where
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they face distress or harm, even if
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these depictions are intended to
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encourage concern and care in the
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player. From there, the organization may
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may be describing these titles as
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featuring child abuse.
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In 2018, Collective Shout encouraged its
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supporters to sign a petition to ban
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Detroit: Become Human from for sale in
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Australia, claiming the game features
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child abuse and violence against women.
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The petition focused on an abusive
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father's violent behavior towards his
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housekeeper and daughter in the game.
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This dynamic, core to the character
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Carara's story arc, is intended to
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encourage empathy for the abused woman
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and child. While it's unclear whether
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collective shout is actively targeting
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Detroit: Become Human in 2025, the
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removal of such a game would be akin to
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artistic censorship of material
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discussing misogynistic abuse against
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female family members. Targeting the
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game, in other words, would be targeting
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the game, in other words, could be
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considered anti-feminist in intent. That
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doesn't really make any sense. In 2014,
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the organization called on Target to
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remove Grand Theft Auto 5 from
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storeshelves, sharing a petition that
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claims the game encourages players to
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commit sexual violence and kill women.
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Collective Shout described GTA as if it
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were a misogynistic funhouse, stating
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the game lets players enact their
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fantasies of committing extreme violence
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against women, including punching women
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to the point of unconsciousness, killing
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them with a bat, gun, or machete,
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running them down with a car, and
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setting them on fire as they continue
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screaming. What? What world are we
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living in? What?
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What?
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So that this all this is only reserved
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and acceptable if it's men. Like if
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you're killing men with a bat, gun, and
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machete, running them down with a car,
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and setting them on fire as they scream.
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These arguments are so weak and flimsy
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and I think just downright detrimental
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to what they claim their mission is.
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This would basically like these two
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things in conjunction would make it so
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like most games won't even put women in
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there. So, let's take the first example
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about like how children in like distress
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and harm is something that they would
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target and try and take down. It's why
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they went after Detroit: Become Human.
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Let's extend that scope. Things like
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Limbo, Last of Us, Out of Sight, like
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these games where there are kids present
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and they do go through like hardship,
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that would be removed under their their
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guidelines here in Detroit: Become
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Human. It's not like they're trying to
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glorify this type of horrible thing. It
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is used as a way of showcasing how bad a
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situation is and getting empathy from
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the player for what is happening to
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these characters. And yet, they want to
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take it down even though it is used to
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deliver positive messaging to the
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player. It's like they don't want any
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deep themes in their games. And not only
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that, it's like they don't want women to
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even be interactable in the games. So,
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also something that wouldn't fly under
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their protocol here would be things like
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Tomb Raider. Any game where a female is
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leading it wouldn't really be possible
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because the women in the game are going
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to go through distress. Like Laura Croft
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goes through a lot worse than what they
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listed for GTA 5 being a misogynistic
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funhouse. Laura Croft gets killed in so
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many different ways potentially if you
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fail certain things. She's constantly
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being hunted, hurt. It's all like pretty
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much no game with a female character in
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it could be made if Collective Shout
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continues to gain this much power. It's
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a [ __ ] absurd notion here. Uh God of
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War, the new God of War, those games
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couldn't be made because Kratos's son
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obviously goes through a lot there. That
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would be a child in a harmful and
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distressing situation. It would be poo
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pooed by collective shout. They would
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banish that [ __ ] to the shadow realm.
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like their rules on what is and is not
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acceptable are just unhinged. Again,
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this would fundamentally like scrub
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women from video games. Like, I I don't
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know why they're they're not grasping
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that concept. They call GTA 5 a
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misogynistic funhouse because you can
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hurt women in it and that kind of thing,
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which you can also do to men. But the
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issue is exclusively because women can
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also be hurt and killed in GTA 5 just
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like the men can. It's not like GTA 5 is
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telling the player, "You have to go
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commit these sexual violent acts against
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women right now. We need you as the
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player to score 100 sexual violent
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crimes against our women in the city
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right now. Go out there. That's the
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quest. Go [ __ ] slap 1,000 women for
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maximum turbo gamer points. Like it's
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it's pretty [ __ ] crazy. So basically,
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if you are going to have women in the
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games, the only way I see that that even
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be possible with collective shouts, you
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know, groundwork they're laying here.
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The way I understand it is if every
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female in the game is immortal, god mode
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activated, and uninteractable outside of
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dialogue and cutscenes, but the female
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character also cannot go through
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anything distressing or deep. Basically
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has to just be like a completely flat
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nothing burger of a character, otherwise
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it could be like too much harm that they
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faced or something in the game. It just
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seems completely antithetical to what
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the mission they claim to have is.
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Again, with how they have targeted games
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in the past and what they are currently
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doing, it feels like most game companies
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in order to play ball with these demands
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will probably just elect to not have
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femalefacing games like with a lead
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female protagonist. and they will
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probably ensure that the female
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characters that might appear in the game
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don't play a big role in it because they
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never know what collective shout might
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have an issue with. And since these
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games budgets are so bloated these days,
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I don't think they'll be willing to take
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any kind of chances, any type of risk of
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their game being just like wiped off of
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like the biggest [ __ ] gaming
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platforms like Steam. So, they'll
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probably just elect to play it safe and
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have any female characters just in the
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background with a really insignificant
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role because again, there's no way of
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knowing what collective shouts going to
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try and spin when it comes to these
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games and these characters. Like again,
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Detroit: Become Human, all that they
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listed there as an issue that was
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literally in the game to deliver
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messaging on how unacceptable that [ __ ]
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is. It was used for empathy, not a
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glorification or anything at all. It was
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actually delivering a message that
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really feels very in line with what
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collective shout claims to fight for. It
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is completely out of control. And let's
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go ahead and just continue to to play a
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little here. A little theater of the
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mind. If you can successfully bully
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payment processors, and it's reported
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that Collective Shout is doing this by
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constantly phoning them up with like a
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thousand employees or or so. I don't
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know if that's all confirmed or not, but
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if you can get a thousand people
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together and successfully have these
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payment processors threaten to leave
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some of the biggest platforms for
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gaming, think about what kind of power
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you can control with these payment
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processors. If you can just have them
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like puppets on your strings, that is so
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dangerous. There is no amount of mental
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gymnastics you can possibly do to
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conjure up a justification for why a
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payment processor has a say in what you
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can spend your money on, what they will
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permit you to spend your debloons on.
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That is a bad direction for the future,
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which obviously extends far beyond just
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video games. This is a much bigger
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topic, a bigger issue than just gaming.
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If payment processors now going to step
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in and basically be like the [ __ ]
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you know, lacrosse house party guy who's
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like, "Who do you know here?" No, you're
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not allowed in. When you're trying to
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spend your money on a product, we've got
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a huge problem. Just play with that
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possibility here for a second. Look,
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let's say you want to buy a dildo or
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something, right? You want to you want
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an adult sex toy. Well, what if the
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payment processors deem those to be
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obscene? H we will not support any
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businesses that are selling these adult
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toys. Consumers shouldn't be able to buy
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these. Okay, all of a sudden you can't
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buy those. That's been [ __ ] wiped
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out. And let's take it to something
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that's not even sexual. Let's say a
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katana or something. I want a katana for
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my room. I really liked some of the
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blades from One Piece. It'd be really
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nice to have a replica blade. Well,
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turns out the payment processors deem
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those to be a little too dangerous and
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threaten to pull out of any websites
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that are offering katanas for sale cuz
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those are some very scary lethal
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weapons. So, can't buy those anymore.
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It's a it's a big issue. Payment
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processors should have no say in what
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you spend your [ __ ] money on. Of
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course, that doesn't apply when it's
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like you trying to buy something highly
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illegal. I get that. But things like
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this, this is absurd. Like, this is
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completely preposterous and out of
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control. Anyway, I just had to yap about
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this a bit. That's that's really it.
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Tia.