2022 Careers in MIS
Zusammenfassung
TLDRWebinarul organizat de școala de afaceri Gonzaga a avut drept subiect principal carierele în sistemul de informații de gestionare (MIS). Moderatorul sesiunii a fost Russell Wilden, și au participat Ed Berry, Fiona Sutherland și Max Mortensen, reprezentanți ai unor companii importante precum Amazon și Deloitte. Au fost discutate aspecte precum abilitățile necesare pentru a reuși în MIS, importanța curiozității și a unei mentalități de creștere. Vorbitorii au împărtășit și experiențele lor profesionale, subliniind relevanța capacității de a conecta afaceri cu tehnologia și utilizarea analizei datelor. O provocare discutată a fost automatizarea în contabilitate, prezentată de Fiona Sutherland, indicând că fiecare client are nevoi unice care necesită soluții creative. În concluzie, s-a subliniat că succesul în MIS nu depinde doar de competențele tehnice, ci și de înțelegerea nevoilor de afaceri și adaptarea continuă la noile tehnologii.
Mitbringsel
- 👩💼 Cariera în MIS oferă numeroase oportunități datorită creșterii cererii de abilitați în analiză și tehnologie.
- 📈 Utilizarea analizei datelor este esențială pentru a lua decizii de afaceri mai informate.
- 💡 Curiozitatea și dorința de a învăța continuu sunt esențiale pentru succes.
- 🛠 Automatizarea în contabilitate necesită soluții creative datorită diversității nevoilor clienților.
- 📊 Instrumentele de business intelligence sunt critice pentru succesul organizațional.
- 🤝 Mentorarea și învățarea din comunitate pot accelera dezvoltarea carierei.
- 🌐 Abilitățile de adaptare și comunicare sunt fundamentale în gestionarea tehnologiei.
- 🔧 RPA și API-urile sunt importante pentru implementări tehnologice eficiente.
- 🎓 Educația continuă este un pilon de succes profesional în tehnologie.
- 🧠 Mentalitatea de creștere permite explorarea unor noi căi în carieră.
Zeitleiste
- 00:00:00 - 00:05:00
Chris Stevens introduce sesiunea de luni la prânz, axată pe cariere în MIS, subliniind importanța informațiilor pentru comunitate și studenți, cu participarea unor invitați speciali.
- 00:05:00 - 00:10:00
Russell Wilden, moderatorul, prezintă vorbitorii: Fiona Sutherland (Deloitte), Max Mortensen (Amazon) și Ed Berry (Treasury Four), care vor discuta legătura dintre tehnologie și afaceri.
- 00:10:00 - 00:15:00
Ed Berry își prezintă experiența în finanțe corporative, subliniind importanța datelor și abilităților MIS în transformarea operațiunilor de trezorerie corporativă.
- 00:15:00 - 00:20:00
Berry explică tranziția spre știința datelor în trezorerie corporativă, subliniind cererea pentru abilități în inteligența de afaceri și să utilizeze instrumente precum Python și R.
- 00:20:00 - 00:25:00
Fiona Sutherland discută despre automatizarea în contabilitate, subliniind provocările și oportunitățile unei abordări mai automate și de consultanță în gestionarea datelor clienților.
- 00:25:00 - 00:30:00
Max Mortensen își prezintă cariera și rolul său de inginer de inteligență de afaceri la Amazon, subliniind utilizarea datelor pentru deciziile de afaceri și marketing în cadrul unei echipe.
- 00:30:00 - 00:35:00
Mortensen subliniază importanța combinării afacerilor cu tehnologia pentru a îmbunătăți funcțiile produselor și marketingului și recomandă MIS pentru cei interesați de această integrare.
- 00:35:00 - 00:40:00
Ed Berry discută importanța opțiunilor și a curiozității în avansarea carierei, subliniind impactul pe care accesul la date și înțelegerea punctelor de legătură le au asupra organizației.
- 00:40:00 - 00:45:00
Fiona și Max discută abilitățile necesare în MIS și despre importanța comunicării și adaptabilității în atingerea succesului în carieră.
- 00:45:00 - 00:52:08
Paneliștii își împărtășesc gândurile finale, subliniind continuarea învățării și importanța de a rămâne curioși și flexibili în carieră.
Mind Map
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Cine a participat la webinar?
Au participat Chris Stevens, Russell Wilden, Ed Berry de la Treasury4, Fiona Sutherland de la Deloitte și Max Mortensen de la Amazon.
Care a fost subiectul principal al webinarului?
Subiectul principal a fost carierele în domeniul sistemelor de informații de gestionare (MIS).
Ce domenii funcționale au fost abordate în discuție?
Discuția a abordat utilizarea analizei datelor, automatizarea în contabilitate și cum să conectezi afacerea cu tehnologia.
Ce specialiști au prezentat perspective asupra carierei lor?
Ed Berry, Fiona Sutherland și Max Mortensen au prezentat perspective asupra carierei lor în MIS.
Ce provocări au fost menționate în legătură cu automatizarea în contabilitate?
Fiona Sutherland a menționat că automatizarea în contabilitate este mai dificilă decât pare, din cauza reglementărilor complexe și diversității sistemelor ERP.
Cum au sugerat vorbitorii să abordeze învățarea continuă?
Vorbitorii au sugerat să fie curioși, să obțină mentorat, să participe la comunități de învățare și să exploreze noi tehnologii.
Cum a influențat pandemie abilitățile de comunicare?
Fiona Sutherland a menționat că pandemia a afectat abilitățile de comunicare, fiind mai greu de păstrat claritatea în comunicările digitale.
Care este importanța abilităților MIS în organizații, conform vorbitorilor?
Abilitățile MIS sunt vitale pentru conectarea afacerilor cu tehnologia, analiza datelor și utilizarea instrumentelor de inteligență de afaceri.
Ce tehnologie a fost menționată ca importantă pentru viitorul MIS?
Tehnologiile de inteligență de afaceri și analiza datelor, precum și codarea în Python, au fost menționate ca importante.
Cum au reacționat vorbitorii la nevoia de a învăța continuu?
Toți vorbitorii au subliniat importanța unei mentalități de creștere și de a continua să învețe tehnologii și abilități noi.
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- 00:00:00so uh welcome to mondays at noon
- 00:00:02uh my name is chris stevens i'm the
- 00:00:04associate the acting associate dean uh
- 00:00:07in the school of business administration
- 00:00:09i want to welcome you
- 00:00:10uh we we come together every monday to
- 00:00:12talk about an issue that we think is
- 00:00:14interesting for our community and our
- 00:00:15students
- 00:00:16and this week thanks to the hard work of
- 00:00:19the mis faculty and a number of willing
- 00:00:21volunteers we've got careers in mis
- 00:00:24we're going to spend some time learning
- 00:00:25about management information systems and
- 00:00:28understanding a little bit more about
- 00:00:30what the opportunities are
- 00:00:32um in this ever-growing field so i'm
- 00:00:35going to turn it over now to russell
- 00:00:37wilden who's uh agreed to be our
- 00:00:39moderator for today russell take it away
- 00:00:42thank you chris yeah we're excited to
- 00:00:44have everyone here today uh thank you to
- 00:00:46all the students that came and
- 00:00:48also thank you to all our speakers that
- 00:00:50took time out of their day to come speak
- 00:00:52with us
- 00:00:53um for all the students
- 00:00:55there's a qr code in the top left of the
- 00:00:58first screen and then it'll also be on
- 00:01:00the last slide and that'll just be to
- 00:01:03mark your attendance for
- 00:01:05any classes this is required for
- 00:01:08and then for the speakers
- 00:01:10we see
- 00:01:11mis as kind of the bridge between
- 00:01:13technology and business and we think
- 00:01:15that the three panelists we have today
- 00:01:17can give us some great perspective on
- 00:01:19that so we have
- 00:01:21fiona sutherland from deloitte
- 00:01:24max mortensen from amazon and fire tv
- 00:01:27and then ed berry from treasury four
- 00:01:30and each of them will go into their
- 00:01:32backgrounds a little bit more
- 00:01:34and as they present we encourage you to
- 00:01:36think about questions and just be
- 00:01:38prepared for that segment we're going to
- 00:01:40have about 20 minutes towards the end
- 00:01:42for
- 00:01:42any questions that students might have
- 00:01:45so
- 00:01:46without further ado i believe we have ed
- 00:01:48berry to start
- 00:01:51all right thanks uh russell for uh the
- 00:01:53invitation to speak today and present to
- 00:01:55the gonzaga students uh love the
- 00:01:57university love the basketball team and
- 00:02:00the university and everything it stands
- 00:02:01for and we've been fortunate over at
- 00:02:03treasury four to have a number of uh uh
- 00:02:06interns uh uh work at treasury four that
- 00:02:09are uh students at gonzaga so i'm ed
- 00:02:12berry one of the co-founders and the
- 00:02:14chief product officer for treasury four
- 00:02:16we're a startup uh and we're building
- 00:02:18software solutions for corporate finance
- 00:02:21and treasury teams uh which is coming
- 00:02:23out of our experience in 20 plus years
- 00:02:25in corporate treasury and so my
- 00:02:27background is
- 00:02:29having been in uh starting out my career
- 00:02:31out of college in the investment
- 00:02:33management broker dealer world then
- 00:02:36spent seven years in the global
- 00:02:37corporate treasury at microsoft where i
- 00:02:39was responsible for their treasury
- 00:02:41technology portfolio internal and
- 00:02:44third-party applications as well as
- 00:02:46treasury operations for three years
- 00:02:48while i was there subsequently went to
- 00:02:50itron in liberty lake as their assistant
- 00:02:52treasurer and built out their global
- 00:02:55treasury operations as well as
- 00:02:57global treasury technology which we won
- 00:02:59a 2014 adam smith award for best process
- 00:03:02re-engineering solution uh in
- 00:03:04recognition of the how we tied all their
- 00:03:07applications and data together
- 00:03:09and then prior to treasury 4 i spent 6
- 00:03:11years at tableau software as their
- 00:03:13treasurer and then stayed on with the
- 00:03:15company after they were acquired by
- 00:03:16salesforce and led strategic initiatives
- 00:03:18with them
- 00:03:20great thank you and then ed
- 00:03:23we were going to have you go over some
- 00:03:25mis related skills you see in the
- 00:03:26workplace
- 00:03:29well i think we need more than an hour
- 00:03:31for all of us to get our feedback and
- 00:03:34ideas on mis
- 00:03:36but
- 00:03:36and what i would say is i mean for us at
- 00:03:39treasury 4 and even just looking back at
- 00:03:41my career in corporate treasury and
- 00:03:43corporate finance it's all about
- 00:03:46data and how you use data how you
- 00:03:48connect to data pull it through and do
- 00:03:51something with it whether it's analytics
- 00:03:52for your organization
- 00:03:54uh to reconciliation and being able to
- 00:03:56bridge things together so mis skills are
- 00:03:59critical and they're in fact growing in
- 00:04:01the corporate treasury space you're
- 00:04:03seeing many best-in-class corporations
- 00:04:07that are starting to pivot some of their
- 00:04:10treasury team members to being more
- 00:04:12focused on data science and use of data
- 00:04:15analytics tools beyond visualization so
- 00:04:18a few years ago there was a big focus on
- 00:04:20using tableau to drive data
- 00:04:22visualization and dashboards for
- 00:04:24organizations
- 00:04:25now many treasury teams are actually
- 00:04:27trying to pull in data science and so
- 00:04:29what the people what organizations are
- 00:04:31looking for
- 00:04:32are those
- 00:04:33people
- 00:04:34and talent that know how to work with
- 00:04:37business intelligence intelligence tools
- 00:04:39data science tools they know how to go
- 00:04:41after data and even preferably know how
- 00:04:44to you know write scripting or
- 00:04:46analytics and tools like python and r
- 00:04:49and so it doesn't necessarily mean you
- 00:04:52act have to be a hardcore
- 00:04:54developer
- 00:04:55using tools like c sharp or
- 00:04:58c plus plus or some of those languages
- 00:05:00but it's knowing how to bring together
- 00:05:02all of the different tools that are
- 00:05:03available in the marketplace to drive
- 00:05:06the outcomes that your organization
- 00:05:07needs
- 00:05:10awesome
- 00:05:11thank you thank you for that ed for the
- 00:05:14next speaker we have uh fiona sutherland
- 00:05:17yeah hi everyone um i do not have a as a
- 00:05:22storied history and mis as zed might
- 00:05:25have i was the recent grad of gonzaga in
- 00:05:272020 so
- 00:05:29uh got to see the first hand experience
- 00:05:32of being in a virtual first environment
- 00:05:35over at gu and i started deloitte
- 00:05:38in 2021 in january so fully virtual
- 00:05:41position and i'm a tax consultant too
- 00:05:44that serves in our in international tax
- 00:05:46quantitative consulting services
- 00:05:48function which is just fancy way of
- 00:05:50saying the technology arm of
- 00:05:52international
- 00:05:53[Music]
- 00:05:54i i majored in gonzaga in accounting and
- 00:05:57then concentrated mis and hr
- 00:06:00and i really do believe that even though
- 00:06:03i am working on primarily a tax space uh
- 00:06:06mis is kind of what i use most
- 00:06:08day-to-day um even though tax returns is
- 00:06:11kind of the impression people get but i
- 00:06:13i honestly haven't had um
- 00:06:15experience in that but yeah happy to be
- 00:06:17here and thanks for organizing wrestle
- 00:06:20of course um
- 00:06:22so friona is going to speak a little bit
- 00:06:24about automation and accounting
- 00:06:27yes and that's a it's more of a
- 00:06:29controversial topic than i think
- 00:06:32some other other spaces might be i i
- 00:06:34remember sitting in a few of our mis
- 00:06:36courses and kind of hearing like okay
- 00:06:38accounting's be automated it's like the
- 00:06:39first thing to go
- 00:06:41when robots take over and your tax
- 00:06:43return you'll never have to look at
- 00:06:44another form again um and i kind of wish
- 00:06:47that was the case to be honest to a
- 00:06:49large extent um automation and
- 00:06:52accounting right now it's sitting at
- 00:06:53this really interesting uh
- 00:06:56sort of confluence of technology is
- 00:06:58getting better it's getting smarter and
- 00:07:00then we're also having to
- 00:07:02understand our clients data and they're
- 00:07:04having more and more data capabilities
- 00:07:06to be able to analyze and pivot and
- 00:07:09review um but automation and accounting
- 00:07:12is not as advanced as as one might think
- 00:07:15um
- 00:07:16for context i work in the public
- 00:07:18accounting space so i have a wide
- 00:07:20variety of clients and in some
- 00:07:22capacity i work more as a consultant to
- 00:07:24come in and understand
- 00:07:26what to automate what's the process
- 00:07:28that's getting hung up what are even
- 00:07:31these workbooks excel workbooks that
- 00:07:33we're working with and how to leverage
- 00:07:35those downstream
- 00:07:36and i think
- 00:07:38that the accounting of the past is
- 00:07:41long gone we are expected to
- 00:07:44rapidly
- 00:07:45analyze large sets of data and
- 00:07:48understand new regulations
- 00:07:50especially in a tax base specifically
- 00:07:53these regulations are not made in the
- 00:07:56terms of data and not
- 00:07:59by anybody that is competent with um
- 00:08:02anything regarding automation so it's a
- 00:08:04unique challenge because every client
- 00:08:06has a different fact pattern every
- 00:08:08technology is a little different every
- 00:08:09erp system outputs things in a different
- 00:08:12way and so
- 00:08:14we're in a great spot to have creative
- 00:08:17solutions to complex and changing
- 00:08:19problems
- 00:08:21i do i focus in a lot of modeling but
- 00:08:23the the key of automation and accounting
- 00:08:26is to make a process
- 00:08:29uh easily understandable to people that
- 00:08:31are non-technology focused um
- 00:08:34and communicating and selling that work
- 00:08:36to clients we have to have a degree of
- 00:08:38understanding that they may not be
- 00:08:39coming from a very advanced technical
- 00:08:42background so uh it's
- 00:08:45this hard uh aspect of trying to
- 00:08:48be able to automate something and make
- 00:08:50it usable and have greater functionality
- 00:08:52leveraging mis and coding and developers
- 00:08:56also retaining
- 00:08:58and having it actually be useful to the
- 00:09:00people because we can automate
- 00:09:01everything to a large degree but if
- 00:09:03there's no value in it and there's no
- 00:09:05transparency with it
- 00:09:07that's where
- 00:09:08we aren't gonna really be able to
- 00:09:10replace everything with robots just
- 00:09:11quite yet so i'm i'm hoping for more
- 00:09:14automation in the future and um
- 00:09:17it would make my job a lot easier and i
- 00:09:19think everybody
- 00:09:20in here would benefit from it as well
- 00:09:24awesome thank you for that fiona
- 00:09:27um for our next speaker last but not
- 00:09:30least we have max mortensen
- 00:09:33yeah thanks russell for the intro and um
- 00:09:36just want to start by saying thanks to
- 00:09:37everyone for taking time out of you know
- 00:09:39your lunch schedule slash
- 00:09:41school schedule to to join today um
- 00:09:44i would say it's first off it's an honor
- 00:09:46to be speaking and especially during the
- 00:09:48middle of another march madness run it's
- 00:09:51always cool to get back together with
- 00:09:52the gonzaga community and see
- 00:09:54um just students and alumni and
- 00:09:57faculty so super honored to be here
- 00:10:00um so my path is a little bit more
- 00:10:02secure so i um graduated 2015 as an
- 00:10:05undergrad and then actually spent a year
- 00:10:08after undergrad two in the mba program
- 00:10:10so i um that was back when uh
- 00:10:14chris stevens was running the program
- 00:10:15too so it's cool to see him today on the
- 00:10:17call
- 00:10:18um oh
- 00:10:21wait
- 00:10:22is she
- 00:10:26sorry i don't know
- 00:10:30i think someone might be unmuted
- 00:10:34we'll keep going and just see if it
- 00:10:36continues um
- 00:10:38okay thanks
- 00:10:39uh and so yeah my path after the nba
- 00:10:41program i jumped around a little bit so
- 00:10:43i started in
- 00:10:44real estate which is what my um my dad
- 00:10:46did so that was kind of my initial
- 00:10:48interest
- 00:10:49um and then went down the corporate
- 00:10:50finance route um and so that's how i
- 00:10:53started uh at amazon which i'm assuming
- 00:10:55most on the call know what amazon does
- 00:10:57but it's an e-commerce company
- 00:11:00and through the first um
- 00:11:03portion of my
- 00:11:04career at amazon i i met a mentor there
- 00:11:07which i think i'm going to talk about a
- 00:11:08little bit later in my my personal
- 00:11:10section but essentially made the
- 00:11:12transition um within the company to go
- 00:11:15into what's called a business
- 00:11:16intelligence engineer role
- 00:11:18and that's um heavily focused on using
- 00:11:21data to drive business decisions for a
- 00:11:24specific unit which um the team that i'm
- 00:11:26on is the fire tv team so
- 00:11:28um some may be familiar but we make the
- 00:11:30streaming media players and televisions
- 00:11:32that allow you to watch netflix hulu etc
- 00:11:35so yeah that's where i am today
- 00:11:38awesome
- 00:11:39thank you and then for mac's topic we
- 00:11:42have
- 00:11:43bridging business and technology
- 00:11:46yeah thanks and so pretty apropos to
- 00:11:49what my role is so maybe to dive a
- 00:11:51little bit more into what a business
- 00:11:52intelligence engineer does
- 00:11:54um really related to what ed was
- 00:11:57discussing earlier on using data as a
- 00:11:59way to to make better decisions within
- 00:12:02um either a program or a writer business
- 00:12:05um so my role is directly situated
- 00:12:08within the business itself so my team
- 00:12:10which is
- 00:12:11made up of essentially business
- 00:12:12intelligence and data science folks
- 00:12:15um
- 00:12:16uses data to better make decisions on
- 00:12:19the product
- 00:12:20itself so you know building a better um
- 00:12:23more product features or a new product
- 00:12:26offering that maybe we are
- 00:12:27already offering
- 00:12:29and then also to the marketing function
- 00:12:31um so better promoting those products
- 00:12:33that we've already created
- 00:12:34um and so for me personally um the
- 00:12:37business and tech combo has been the
- 00:12:40most interesting piece of my early
- 00:12:42career
- 00:12:43um so i mentioned i started and came out
- 00:12:45on the corporate finance side so i
- 00:12:47started heavily focused on business
- 00:12:50but i would say that the use of
- 00:12:51technology at least in terms of driving
- 00:12:54decisions and gathering data has made it
- 00:12:56a little bit more interesting so you can
- 00:12:58go all the way as far as um the data
- 00:13:00science route where you're actually
- 00:13:01predicting outcomes and
- 00:13:04using decisions with data to make
- 00:13:07wider business decisions or you can do
- 00:13:09as simply as automating data processing
- 00:13:12and modeling um but all of those things
- 00:13:15combined together to make
- 00:13:17it a little bit more um you know make
- 00:13:20the business run more smoothly um and
- 00:13:23it's interesting just to be able to have
- 00:13:24a skill set where you can provide
- 00:13:26someone with
- 00:13:27either an easier solution or a solution
- 00:13:30fully packaged
- 00:13:31so that's kind of where that interest
- 00:13:33lies and i would say if others are
- 00:13:34interested in
- 00:13:36blending those two things then mis and a
- 00:13:39career in mis is the right place to be
- 00:13:43great
- 00:13:44thank you max
- 00:13:46and then for our next section we each
- 00:13:49had
- 00:13:50each speaker bring a personal topic that
- 00:13:53they wanted to talk about today so to
- 00:13:56start us off we have
- 00:13:58ed berry with his personal topic and i
- 00:14:00believe
- 00:14:01he's going to share a slide
- 00:14:03chris could you give him presentation
- 00:14:05rights
- 00:14:13he should have them
- 00:14:15okay perfect
- 00:14:19i may have to stop sharing my screen
- 00:14:21[Music]
- 00:14:25okay hopefully this is coming through
- 00:14:26for everybody
- 00:14:28here shortly perfect
- 00:14:31okay
- 00:14:32so uh this is actually not a uh ad for
- 00:14:35treasury four but really more to get
- 00:14:38people to think about you know the
- 00:14:39importance of data and the touch points
- 00:14:41of data and and when i when i'm kind of
- 00:14:44bringing on new team members i talk
- 00:14:46about the importance of being able to
- 00:14:48both look through a transaction it
- 00:14:51doesn't have to be specifically like a
- 00:14:53journal entry uh but you look through
- 00:14:55something to understand all of its touch
- 00:14:57points along the way and how it might
- 00:14:59affect your organization
- 00:15:01and so you
- 00:15:02you know the world is changing in terms
- 00:15:04of being able to connect disparate data
- 00:15:07or what had historically been
- 00:15:09viewed as disparate data and in order to
- 00:15:12drive better insight for your
- 00:15:14organization and better look through
- 00:15:16capability so in terms of like treasury
- 00:15:184 and what we're building
- 00:15:20is the ability to aggregate data on
- 00:15:22behalf of our corporate customers and
- 00:15:24this is types of financial data that
- 00:15:27organizations struggle to get their arms
- 00:15:29around but what they're looking for is
- 00:15:30to have that data brought together so
- 00:15:33that they can drive new and unique
- 00:15:34insights for their organization
- 00:15:36including that look through and
- 00:15:38understanding the touch points
- 00:15:40and that helps you better understand you
- 00:15:42know what are other drivers that you
- 00:15:44historically might not have thought
- 00:15:46would be impacting your function uh
- 00:15:48maybe it's a team member maybe it's a
- 00:15:50certain responsibility maybe it's even
- 00:15:52getting a much more holistic view of
- 00:15:54your organization and its financial
- 00:15:56risks or operational risks and being
- 00:16:00able to tie these things together and
- 00:16:02and there is
- 00:16:04in the world is shifting as well in
- 00:16:06terms of using business intelligence
- 00:16:08tools and data science tools because
- 00:16:11it's no longer about having a number of
- 00:16:12reports right that day should is long
- 00:16:15past uh out of a system really
- 00:16:19what people should be asking is do
- 00:16:21systems have all of the data that i need
- 00:16:24and can i interact with that data using
- 00:16:26my own preferred tools of choice
- 00:16:28or how can i bring it together
- 00:16:30and so i really you know my you know
- 00:16:32personal view is really getting
- 00:16:34instilling in people the ability to look
- 00:16:36through
- 00:16:37and
- 00:16:37transactions but also understand the why
- 00:16:40why is something happening not
- 00:16:42necessarily how but the why behind what
- 00:16:45you're doing or what your organization
- 00:16:46is doing and then how can you better
- 00:16:49leverage data and technology to drive
- 00:16:52those outcomes for your organization
- 00:16:54so i think those are really great things
- 00:16:56to keep in mind and then the other
- 00:16:58observation i'd like to share with
- 00:17:00everybody is the idea of optionality the
- 00:17:02more experiences you have as you go
- 00:17:05through your career
- 00:17:07the more options you will ultimately
- 00:17:09have
- 00:17:10as you grow in an organization uh and
- 00:17:13through your career life cycle
- 00:17:15so never hesitate to raise your hand and
- 00:17:18do something new take on something new
- 00:17:20even if it's unsettling even if it gives
- 00:17:22you a little bit of nervousness
- 00:17:25i found
- 00:17:26in my own career journey that the more
- 00:17:29things i was open to in terms of doing
- 00:17:32or taking on even if they were
- 00:17:34felt insurmountable at the time the more
- 00:17:37options i had down the road
- 00:17:39so i always think about optionality in
- 00:17:42terms of when you're learning things
- 00:17:43when you're doing things
- 00:17:45uh and
- 00:17:46taking on never hesitating to take on
- 00:17:48big projects and big challenges
- 00:17:51so i'll just kind of end there and if
- 00:17:53there's any uh questions i'd be happy to
- 00:17:54take them
- 00:17:57perfect thank you ed yeah if you have
- 00:17:59any questions we will have a
- 00:18:02section for that towards the end um
- 00:18:05share my screen real quick
- 00:18:11perfect awesome and then for our next
- 00:18:14personal topic
- 00:18:17we have fiona talking about focusing on
- 00:18:19the right skills
- 00:18:21yes
- 00:18:22yeah i i kind of struggled to come up
- 00:18:24with a personal topic for this but i
- 00:18:26think um i'm going to draw from a little
- 00:18:29bit of my own experience here of being a
- 00:18:32student in a very wide open marketplace
- 00:18:36right we are
- 00:18:37exposed to so many different
- 00:18:39opportunities especially here in the
- 00:18:40northwest and it's kind of overwhelming
- 00:18:44i mean this is you know looking at the
- 00:18:47potential potentiality of careers and
- 00:18:50the skills that are required on each job
- 00:18:52application can kind of get overwhelming
- 00:18:54um
- 00:18:55i feel like when we go
- 00:18:58to university we take classes on
- 00:19:00specific stuff and we're always asking
- 00:19:02ourselves the question of is this
- 00:19:04actually applicable is learning and
- 00:19:07spending a whole semester learning a
- 00:19:09coding language or making data flow
- 00:19:11diagrams or this sort of stuff is this
- 00:19:13actually useful in my career and am i
- 00:19:15going to be able to leverage this down
- 00:19:17the line or do i need to
- 00:19:19take a bootcamp in python or learn how
- 00:19:21to code an r and i
- 00:19:22want to stress here that the right skill
- 00:19:25is not necessarily what's on your resume
- 00:19:28but it's definitely more on how you
- 00:19:30apply it
- 00:19:32and well well that's generic advice for
- 00:19:34sure
- 00:19:36knowing how to learn is a i think a
- 00:19:39really
- 00:19:40big thing that gonzaga focuses on and
- 00:19:42that's been pretty evident in my success
- 00:19:44in the marketplace um
- 00:19:46i
- 00:19:47have a very traditional career path to a
- 00:19:49large extent when it comes to like the
- 00:19:51recruiting public accounting pipeline
- 00:19:53but
- 00:19:54i
- 00:19:55find the most value and the most use out
- 00:19:56of my ancillary skills the things that
- 00:19:59are adjacent to what i primarily studied
- 00:20:01in school and it's not that i
- 00:20:05feel as though these
- 00:20:06code like learning how to code in java
- 00:20:08isn't useful it's just the way in the
- 00:20:11mindset that we approach
- 00:20:13um the actual applicability of these
- 00:20:15transcends beyond the core uh thing that
- 00:20:18we're actually studying to learn
- 00:20:20so uh
- 00:20:22we have being a student is hard enough
- 00:20:24right so there's this pressure to become
- 00:20:27really technically proficient and i'm
- 00:20:28kind of here to say like
- 00:20:31you don't need to do everything all the
- 00:20:33time the perfection is the enemy of the
- 00:20:34good and
- 00:20:36i have never in my job never used a
- 00:20:39coding language that i learned here at
- 00:20:40gonzaga like i can say that straight up
- 00:20:43but
- 00:20:44one of the things that i found really
- 00:20:46valuable is being able to have a curious
- 00:20:49mindset when it comes to technology uh
- 00:20:52being able to dig my heels in and really
- 00:20:55move forward and take the ways that we
- 00:20:57approach learning new technologies and
- 00:20:59apply that to different aspects i teach
- 00:21:02a lot of trainings to people that are
- 00:21:04much more senior than myself and that's
- 00:21:05because i
- 00:21:07am able to take kind of the mindset of
- 00:21:09somebody that's new and fresh and
- 00:21:11guide them through something that might
- 00:21:12be more complicated or more daunting
- 00:21:15a lot of your jobs that you might go
- 00:21:17into in the future are not necessarily
- 00:21:20sitting down and grinding and being a
- 00:21:21developer but really communicating the
- 00:21:24value of that technology
- 00:21:26understanding why it might be useful and
- 00:21:28then demystifying everything else about
- 00:21:30it because at the end of the day
- 00:21:32technology is supposed to make our lives
- 00:21:33easier not confuse us and not make us
- 00:21:35seem like we're smarter
- 00:21:38and and that gets to why mis
- 00:21:40specifically is important rather than
- 00:21:42you know maybe getting a traditional
- 00:21:44computer science degree uh
- 00:21:46mis is made to be that bridge between
- 00:21:49business and technology and we have to
- 00:21:53be a jack of all trades to
- 00:21:56fit in the right spot and you know our
- 00:21:58first jobs are not necessarily what we
- 00:22:00want to do for the rest of our life but
- 00:22:02being able to take every little bit of
- 00:22:04that learning and development that you
- 00:22:06have on the job and have the
- 00:22:08complementary skills that you learned
- 00:22:10here in school can make you a really
- 00:22:13powerful person in the marketplace
- 00:22:15itself and and propel your career
- 00:22:17forward so uh
- 00:22:20just know that you might not be you're
- 00:22:22not getting pigeonholed here and
- 00:22:24there's so many opportunities and don't
- 00:22:27don't think that you're gonna have to
- 00:22:29go to boot camps and and crash course
- 00:22:32data uh wrangling you know trainings and
- 00:22:35stuff to be to be effective as an
- 00:22:37employee
- 00:22:39i just
- 00:22:41keep calm and
- 00:22:42keep moving forward in mis because
- 00:22:44you're in the right place
- 00:22:46and have really the best opportunity to
- 00:22:50move in a great direction especially
- 00:22:52with the way technology is going right
- 00:22:54now
- 00:22:56great thank you fiona and for our last
- 00:22:59personal topic we have max with creating
- 00:23:02a learning community
- 00:23:04yeah thanks and i
- 00:23:06i think this is going to bridge really
- 00:23:07well with what you know i just said so
- 00:23:09thanks yeah um and i would echo i guess
- 00:23:11um mainly the the big thing that she
- 00:23:14mentioned that i think is going to be a
- 00:23:15big topic of what i'm going to talk
- 00:23:16about too is um remaining curious and
- 00:23:19again it doesn't necessarily have to um
- 00:23:21fit cookie cutter into like what your
- 00:23:23concentration was in school or what your
- 00:23:26specific job title is and i'm going to
- 00:23:28share some anecdotes from my career
- 00:23:30history that i kind of already touched
- 00:23:32on a little bit and then something
- 00:23:33specific that
- 00:23:34i've tried to build a little bit within
- 00:23:37the zags connect community i'm hoping
- 00:23:39that we can maybe do something more
- 00:23:41formal across
- 00:23:42the whole business discipline
- 00:23:44um so the the anecdote i wanted to share
- 00:23:46was i mentioned that i started at amazon
- 00:23:49and the corporate finance side so i came
- 00:23:51in
- 00:23:52i was a finance concentration got my mba
- 00:23:54in finance as well so i really didn't
- 00:23:56come in um with any technical skill set
- 00:23:58i guess beyond basic sql
- 00:24:01um and so i started on a team where we
- 00:24:04kind of had a bunch of different people
- 00:24:06wearing different hats for different
- 00:24:08roles and i was lucky enough to meet
- 00:24:10someone um who came from a very
- 00:24:12technical skill set and um in that role
- 00:24:15that he was in was essentially doing
- 00:24:17something less tangible
- 00:24:19and through meeting him he offered me
- 00:24:22the opportunity to start to learn more
- 00:24:25technical skill sets specifically in
- 00:24:26programming and languages like python
- 00:24:29so through that experience i learned how
- 00:24:32exciting um doing that kind of work
- 00:24:33could be and that was kind of what led
- 00:24:35me down the path to the business
- 00:24:37intelligence engineer route that i'm in
- 00:24:38today
- 00:24:39um so that was my i guess kind of an
- 00:24:42eye-opening moment for me for two
- 00:24:44reasons number one was um i don't
- 00:24:46necessarily think everyone believes it
- 00:24:47but we kind of manifest this idea that
- 00:24:49once we graduate from college um
- 00:24:52learning's kind of done that we just
- 00:24:53take what we've learned and head down
- 00:24:55our path
- 00:24:56we already started down
- 00:24:59but i've personally done it in my own
- 00:25:01experience i know lots of others have
- 00:25:03is that you can change your path many
- 00:25:06many times and you should keep learning
- 00:25:08mainly because it's more fun in my
- 00:25:10opinion
- 00:25:11but also because you never know really
- 00:25:13what you're going to find out what door
- 00:25:14will open later on um so because of that
- 00:25:17i i did make that switch over to a role
- 00:25:20that's considered technical and requires
- 00:25:22some of those skills that are in
- 00:25:23programming
- 00:25:24um
- 00:25:25so the
- 00:25:26the
- 00:25:27kind of idea of a learning community i
- 00:25:29think um also to touch on something that
- 00:25:31ed mentioned i thought was really
- 00:25:33pressing it was um there is a lot of
- 00:25:36that uneasiness especially i'm sure that
- 00:25:38lots of students on this call know this
- 00:25:40um when you start in a new space or try
- 00:25:43to learn these skill set it's very
- 00:25:45um there's so much out there especially
- 00:25:46if like for example if you're learning a
- 00:25:48programming language there's so much you
- 00:25:50can do with even one language although
- 00:25:52in a whole set of different languages
- 00:25:54um and so the learning community to me
- 00:25:56is a good way to ease a little bit of
- 00:25:59that uneasiness um and find a community
- 00:26:01where you can feel like you're not the
- 00:26:03novice in the room and one person who
- 00:26:05doesn't understand what's going on so
- 00:26:07that's why i felt like um when i did
- 00:26:09that made those changes was trying to
- 00:26:11learn that skill set it really helped
- 00:26:13out that one person
- 00:26:14um so you can find a community like that
- 00:26:17you know obviously at gonzaga have
- 00:26:18there's lots of
- 00:26:20classmates and alumni that can provide
- 00:26:22those kinds of opportunities but also
- 00:26:24online there's lots of resources today
- 00:26:26in ed tech and other
- 00:26:28circles that will provide you with um
- 00:26:31like peers that are going through a
- 00:26:33similar process as you
- 00:26:34um and so one of those that i wanted to
- 00:26:36touch on was just uh
- 00:26:38and this is actually how i got connected
- 00:26:40with russell too was um i started this
- 00:26:42little programming um learning series
- 00:26:44where essentially every
- 00:26:46um it was during covid so we would do it
- 00:26:48virtually
- 00:26:49but every couple weeks we would sit down
- 00:26:51together and go through a new
- 00:26:53we started very basically with just
- 00:26:55learning the overalls
- 00:26:57of python and then we would go through a
- 00:26:58new package together and just
- 00:27:00essentially do like an overview of what
- 00:27:02it was and some of the basic concepts
- 00:27:04that you could learn from it um and so
- 00:27:07if others are interested i think we're
- 00:27:08going to plan on expanding that too
- 00:27:11obviously more students want to do the
- 00:27:13python version of it
- 00:27:15well we can absolutely do that but then
- 00:27:17also expand to other languages and other
- 00:27:20skill sets that might be interesting so
- 00:27:22i think maybe at the end russell might
- 00:27:24share some contact information but i'm
- 00:27:26just sending out a before we go into the
- 00:27:28q a session that i'm very open to
- 00:27:30connect with other students or um
- 00:27:32graduates who might be interested in
- 00:27:34joining a community like that
- 00:27:37great thank you max yeah i was a
- 00:27:40working with max was a great experience
- 00:27:42and i learned a lot so i would
- 00:27:44definitely encourage other students to
- 00:27:45reach out
- 00:27:47engage
- 00:27:49so for our next section
- 00:27:51we are going to open it up to questions
- 00:27:54from the students and
- 00:27:56you can send questions in the chat or if
- 00:27:58you feel comfortable
- 00:28:00you can unmute yourself and speak into
- 00:28:03the video
- 00:28:03[Music]
- 00:28:07give everybody a minute to
- 00:28:09get some questions
- 00:28:25see
- 00:28:31all right well i'm never afraid of
- 00:28:32asking questions while other people
- 00:28:34figure out what questions they want to
- 00:28:35ask so
- 00:28:37um
- 00:28:38one of the things that i've been asking
- 00:28:39in a lot of these sessions is
- 00:28:43what and i think it's particularly
- 00:28:44relevant here what do you what do you
- 00:28:46think is the one skill
- 00:28:49that is absolutely essential if you're
- 00:28:50going to be successful in a career
- 00:28:52managing technology
- 00:28:56i'll jump in with that if that's okay
- 00:28:57chris and i would say
- 00:28:59curiosity you have to be intensely
- 00:29:01curious
- 00:29:03and uh dig into technology especially
- 00:29:06newer technologies
- 00:29:08and play with them get familiar with
- 00:29:10them learn them even become experts in
- 00:29:12them but that all starts with having
- 00:29:14intense curiosity
- 00:29:19yeah plus one would i just said it maybe
- 00:29:21more specifically a growth mindset so
- 00:29:23always wanted to go a little bit further
- 00:29:25than you've got already if you've done
- 00:29:27something curious recently maybe do
- 00:29:29another thing
- 00:29:32and and to kind of wrap up and
- 00:29:35it's essentially the same thing as you
- 00:29:37guys are saying but
- 00:29:39you're going to always have an
- 00:29:41opportunity to
- 00:29:43be able to move into a new space
- 00:29:45nothing's on
- 00:29:49ed you responded with python
- 00:29:52do you guys want to talk a little bit
- 00:29:53about the technical needs
- 00:29:55associated with
- 00:29:57um being in technology i mean you know
- 00:29:59that that i think for some students
- 00:30:01that's a concern
- 00:30:03how much technical skill do i have to
- 00:30:05bring
- 00:30:06to the job to be able to be successful
- 00:30:08and understand it can you talk a little
- 00:30:09bit about how you see technology being
- 00:30:11leveraged
- 00:30:14i'll jump in on that and i would say you
- 00:30:17know
- 00:30:17learning how to work with the tools
- 00:30:19right the tools that are out there that
- 00:30:21are quickly advancing you know whether
- 00:30:22it's kind of robotic process automation
- 00:30:25rpa tools
- 00:30:26or tools that are like postman that are
- 00:30:28making it easier to integrate with apis
- 00:30:31where you don't necessarily need to know
- 00:30:33you know specifically how to code that
- 00:30:36you you can tap into these tools and
- 00:30:38still drive uh outcomes for your
- 00:30:40organization
- 00:30:42and so i think you know it's really
- 00:30:43looking at where technology is going in
- 00:30:45the business world whether it's you know
- 00:30:47things like rpa or apis or business
- 00:30:50intelligence
- 00:30:53and making the most of the tools that
- 00:30:54are out there including you know things
- 00:30:56that are coming out like low code
- 00:30:57development platforms
- 00:31:04other comments max fiona
- 00:31:09i think the only thing that i think that
- 00:31:10summarizes it pretty well um
- 00:31:12it depends on the role heavily i would
- 00:31:14say just in my experience in terms of
- 00:31:17at amazon
- 00:31:19but having a good understanding of how
- 00:31:21to build a program or write programming
- 00:31:23languages is definitely always helpful
- 00:31:24but i don't think it's
- 00:31:26essential for every job
- 00:31:29yeah i would agree it's understanding
- 00:31:31the problem first and then trying to
- 00:31:33find the best language or technology to
- 00:31:36to use
- 00:31:37is going to be way more effective than
- 00:31:39just trying to spitball different um
- 00:31:42coding languages so like i have to use
- 00:31:45typically excel based technologies
- 00:31:47because that's what most of my clients
- 00:31:48use and then trying to
- 00:31:50maybe uh research in that space of
- 00:31:52what's going to be the most efficient
- 00:31:54that i can get and get down into from a
- 00:31:56technical side
- 00:32:01and russell i see a couple of other
- 00:32:02comments in the chat
- 00:32:04i don't know if you wanna oh yeah yeah
- 00:32:07so we have uh from brianna we have what
- 00:32:10mis based class do you recommend or was
- 00:32:12your favorite class to take a gonzaga
- 00:32:15i think that'll be for fiona
- 00:32:16[Music]
- 00:32:19yeah yeah for me it was the the final
- 00:32:21capstone course um
- 00:32:23while i appreciate in the sequel class i
- 00:32:25i do
- 00:32:26i do use quite often but being able to
- 00:32:29document and and do a full business
- 00:32:31proposal i i have found immensely
- 00:32:34helpful um
- 00:32:35just understanding and being able to
- 00:32:37quickly read data flow diagrams or
- 00:32:40process flow charts or anything of the
- 00:32:42kind makes me quite an asset because my
- 00:32:45team will be faced with a giant erp
- 00:32:47system and they'll just send them to me
- 00:32:49and i can kind of explain the process
- 00:32:50without anybody having to walk me
- 00:32:52through it just based on being able to
- 00:32:55navigate into different environments uh
- 00:32:57frequently
- 00:32:59i i didn't expect it to be the most used
- 00:33:01class but at the end of the day that is
- 00:33:03like day to day
- 00:33:05it just keeps coming up so
- 00:33:07um
- 00:33:09[Music]
- 00:33:12i have a question um this could be for
- 00:33:14anybody i know max you talked about kind
- 00:33:17of building that learning community and
- 00:33:19um
- 00:33:21i was just curious to hear about kind of
- 00:33:23your process of networking and building
- 00:33:25that learning community and then
- 00:33:27for all the panelists um
- 00:33:30just kind of if you could speak to
- 00:33:34like do you have an easier time learning
- 00:33:36from other people like learning in a
- 00:33:38group through experience or is it easier
- 00:33:40for you to kind of focus on your own
- 00:33:42through some online resources
- 00:33:46yeah i'm happy to take that that first
- 00:33:47one that you said um
- 00:33:49so uh
- 00:33:51just as in terms of the
- 00:33:53um avenue that i decided to go down
- 00:33:55because i thought that a lot of students
- 00:33:56were on zags connect that's what we used
- 00:33:58um so i'd recommend it i think it's been
- 00:34:01a really really nice tool
- 00:34:03um when i've used it to connect with
- 00:34:05current students and alumni
- 00:34:07so if anyone's not on that i'd recommend
- 00:34:08checking it out
- 00:34:10and then i'll answer the general
- 00:34:11networking one too i think
- 00:34:15a lot of the networking events for me
- 00:34:16personally when i was a student in early
- 00:34:18out of college weren't necessarily
- 00:34:20relevant in terms of finding my
- 00:34:22interests and so i think that's maybe
- 00:34:24difficult especially in person to
- 00:34:26find a community that shares a lot of
- 00:34:28especially if you're you know blending
- 00:34:30business and technology there's so many
- 00:34:32different specific concentrations you
- 00:34:34can go down so i would say
- 00:34:37honestly the internet has some really
- 00:34:38really great communities and and even
- 00:34:40though it's not as formal in terms of
- 00:34:42networking that's how you can build up
- 00:34:45you know a community and also a brand by
- 00:34:47learning those skills so that's just
- 00:34:49what has worked for me but i know
- 00:34:50everyone has
- 00:34:51different ways that they go about doing
- 00:34:53it
- 00:34:54[Music]
- 00:34:59one of the avenues that
- 00:35:01has helped me tremendously in the
- 00:35:02corporate treasury side is i've
- 00:35:04participated in
- 00:35:05corporate treasury peer groups uh with
- 00:35:08other
- 00:35:09people from treasury departments at
- 00:35:10other companies
- 00:35:11and there was specifically there's an
- 00:35:13organization in the u.s that does a
- 00:35:15really good job of that or two
- 00:35:17organizations actually uh and being able
- 00:35:20to go you know about every six months um
- 00:35:22travel to an another
- 00:35:24peer group member's office with
- 00:35:27you know 20 25 other people that are
- 00:35:30doing the same thing that i was doing or
- 00:35:31similar and just be able to share best
- 00:35:33practices and experiences
- 00:35:36in a confidential safe way
- 00:35:38because in the corporate treasury space
- 00:35:40it's very much an experiential career
- 00:35:42path uh there's it's uh
- 00:35:46there's a lot of things that you do
- 00:35:48that are
- 00:35:49uh you know unique to each organization
- 00:35:51but they have common themes to them and
- 00:35:53so that ability to to participate in
- 00:35:55those peer groups and do that peer
- 00:35:57knowledge exchange has been hugely um
- 00:36:00beneficial for for my career growth and
- 00:36:03i've been benefited
- 00:36:05enormously from that so that's that's
- 00:36:07really more on the kind of that
- 00:36:09corporate treasury perspective and i
- 00:36:11think on the application side of things
- 00:36:14it's taking advantage of all the
- 00:36:15different learning
- 00:36:16uh avenues that are out there whether
- 00:36:18it's online uh webinar uh even hey i'm
- 00:36:22still old school i like to print out
- 00:36:24paper and read things uh tangibly and
- 00:36:27make notes and highlight and
- 00:36:30but you have to approach it through that
- 00:36:31kind of constant learning uh
- 00:36:34and in always finding something unique
- 00:36:37and valuable out of what you're
- 00:36:38investing your time in
- 00:36:40that can add value for yourself and your
- 00:36:42organization
- 00:36:46yeah and something i'll add with the
- 00:36:49networking aspect and
- 00:36:51being able to
- 00:36:53extend yourself outside of your own
- 00:36:54organization what they're teaching you
- 00:36:57public accounting for me is a really
- 00:36:59high turnover
- 00:37:01industry and i think that's becoming
- 00:37:03more of the norm rather than the
- 00:37:04exception nowadays and so keep in close
- 00:37:07contact with the people that you like to
- 00:37:09work with people that knew you best and
- 00:37:11understood your skill sets because
- 00:37:12they're going to be instrumental as
- 00:37:14being like hey we're you know if you you
- 00:37:16contact them after a few years that
- 00:37:18they're a new place um we're using this
- 00:37:20technology i think you'd be a really
- 00:37:21good fit for it that's probably the best
- 00:37:24way to get somebody and some experience
- 00:37:26from people that really understand who
- 00:37:28you are as an individual rather than you
- 00:37:30know
- 00:37:32for me generalized trainings aren't
- 00:37:33necessarily as effective but when you
- 00:37:36can kind of pinpoint hey i can
- 00:37:38transition this uh skill set that i have
- 00:37:41into something new i think it opens up a
- 00:37:43lot of doors and it provides a clear
- 00:37:44pathway to success
- 00:37:47awesome um
- 00:37:49i think kind of building off that
- 00:37:50question i know fiona you had talked
- 00:37:53about
- 00:37:54uh kind of buzzwords and like there's
- 00:37:56all these new technologies that are
- 00:37:58coming out it's kind of hard to pick
- 00:38:00which ones but
- 00:38:01i was just curious if there's kind of a
- 00:38:03process that each of you go through
- 00:38:06in deciding what your companies will
- 00:38:08adopt or what kind of you yourself what
- 00:38:10skills you'll add and then i know ed you
- 00:38:13have to kind of decide overall what the
- 00:38:15company would use so i'm just curious to
- 00:38:17know what you guys have to say about
- 00:38:18that
- 00:38:20yeah well like for us at treasury 4 you
- 00:38:22know we have both uh software engineers
- 00:38:25developers that are coding in visual
- 00:38:28studio and on the microsoft cloud so and
- 00:38:30they have specific development um that
- 00:38:33they
- 00:38:34personal development goals and skills
- 00:38:36that they're uh
- 00:38:38uh you know focused on and then our at
- 00:38:41the rest of our team is
- 00:38:42uh
- 00:38:43also you know learning tools like
- 00:38:45tableau or power bi or some of the rpa
- 00:38:48tools and so everybody in our company
- 00:38:50has to have a personal development goal
- 00:38:52for the whole year and whether that's a
- 00:38:54certification that they're trying to
- 00:38:56achieve or some class or course that
- 00:38:58they're taking and it could be as varied
- 00:39:00as things like uh course and product
- 00:39:03management or project management those
- 00:39:05are two different disciplines but also
- 00:39:07technical skills uh relative to coding
- 00:39:10or use of specific applications so but
- 00:39:13everybody in our company is required
- 00:39:14including myself and so i
- 00:39:17have to you know follow my own uh
- 00:39:19guidance and
- 00:39:20carve out time specifically to learn new
- 00:39:23technologies and new capabilities
- 00:39:26[Music]
- 00:39:31i can go next to um i would say i'm
- 00:39:33definitely not driving the tank or bar
- 00:39:35at amazon by any means
- 00:39:37but
- 00:39:37uh
- 00:39:38i would say two sides first the
- 00:39:41colleagues that i have um within my own
- 00:39:44group and wider team
- 00:39:46um
- 00:39:47it's very common for us to have learning
- 00:39:49sessions and informal chats especially
- 00:39:51when we were in the office um about the
- 00:39:54work we were doing and then maybe share
- 00:39:56an interesting project that we worked on
- 00:39:57and like say a package or
- 00:40:00a visualization tool that helped us do
- 00:40:03the work more quickly than the standard
- 00:40:05so that was one way and then the other
- 00:40:07way i would say for sure is again
- 00:40:08through those um online communities that
- 00:40:10um i'd become a part of some a
- 00:40:13combination of the two
- 00:40:17yeah and for deloitte it's kind of hard
- 00:40:19to adopt new technologies sometimes
- 00:40:21because of the confidentiality of our
- 00:40:23clients information we have to go
- 00:40:25through a pretty rigorous qa process of
- 00:40:27quality assurance
- 00:40:29um but i
- 00:40:31whenever we have a big proposal if we
- 00:40:33want to invest a lot of development time
- 00:40:34maybe start using a new technology
- 00:40:37first understanding the problem because
- 00:40:39you're going always going to have to
- 00:40:40communicate that upward
- 00:40:42if you find something you think might be
- 00:40:44helpful and then making a formal
- 00:40:45business case um not anything fancy but
- 00:40:48just
- 00:40:49really bulleting out why we should use
- 00:40:51this why nothing else
- 00:40:53no other
- 00:40:54you know technology or coding language
- 00:40:56could attempt to solve this problem as
- 00:40:58quickly or as efficiently and having
- 00:41:01that ready when you are communicating
- 00:41:02that and moving forward in your process
- 00:41:05not just to get approval from uh like
- 00:41:08your manager or something but to
- 00:41:10be able to explore all options because
- 00:41:13somebody has probably had this problem
- 00:41:14before you
- 00:41:16always worth a quick certainty if
- 00:41:18there's um the hard leg work is
- 00:41:22always smarter not harder
- 00:41:27awesome
- 00:41:28and then kind of
- 00:41:30going along with the skills topic how do
- 00:41:32you go about building
- 00:41:34more so the business skills is that
- 00:41:36solely through experience or is there
- 00:41:38resources that you guys use to
- 00:41:40educate yourselves further
- 00:41:50i can jump in on this i think uh
- 00:41:53mentorship is uh really
- 00:41:56this is for me personally um to seek
- 00:41:58somebody that does have the business
- 00:42:01skills that you might want and you see
- 00:42:03them interact with either clients or
- 00:42:05in meetings and really they have a great
- 00:42:08way of
- 00:42:10understanding either the marketplace or
- 00:42:12the problems they're trying to solve so
- 00:42:14forming a lasting relationship and
- 00:42:17scheduling regular touch and kind of
- 00:42:18being proactive about that can
- 00:42:20further along um
- 00:42:23all those little questions that can't
- 00:42:24necessarily be solved by like a
- 00:42:26technical training right kind of
- 00:42:27navigating within the workspace and
- 00:42:30when it comes to you know interviewing
- 00:42:32for new positions or exploring maybe uh
- 00:42:35mergers or partnerships uh having
- 00:42:37somebody that has been in the the
- 00:42:38business for me personally because i'm
- 00:42:41uh you know so new into my career has
- 00:42:43been instrumental of gaining that
- 00:42:44confidence to know that you're moving in
- 00:42:46the right direction
- 00:42:48[Music]
- 00:42:52i would echo that as well especially
- 00:42:53when you're starting out in your career
- 00:42:55early on mentorships are really really
- 00:42:58key and it becomes harder the older you
- 00:43:00get and the you know and if you kind of
- 00:43:02rise in your uh career
- 00:43:05in um
- 00:43:06you know it's hard to maintain
- 00:43:08mentorship and so it's important that as
- 00:43:10you do that you give back being a mentor
- 00:43:14so it goes both ways and there's just a
- 00:43:16lot that comes from mentors
- 00:43:19in terms of you know the cup
- 00:43:20organizations
- 00:43:22culture
- 00:43:24helping people frame things frame
- 00:43:26decisions think about it in different
- 00:43:28perspectives uh and i think you know
- 00:43:31finding several good mentors can be
- 00:43:33invaluable for your career
- 00:43:38yeah i don't have anything yet i thought
- 00:43:39those are both great answers um maybe
- 00:43:41the only piece that i could say is uh
- 00:43:44asking specific questions so when you do
- 00:43:46find that
- 00:43:47that mentor or coach or um whoever it is
- 00:43:50um asking questions like if you saw them
- 00:43:53um make a really intuitive leap say like
- 00:43:56what was it that brought you to that
- 00:43:58place so just trying to learn as much as
- 00:44:00you can by asking those specific
- 00:44:02questions but yeah no i thought those
- 00:44:03were great answers
- 00:44:05great thank you guys um
- 00:44:08and also i just wanted to kind of touch
- 00:44:10on
- 00:44:11maybe building communication skills i
- 00:44:13know that can be a struggle for some
- 00:44:15students at the beginning just
- 00:44:17kind of um communicating more technical
- 00:44:20topics to more business people and then
- 00:44:22also vice versa so is there
- 00:44:24any kind of process you get you guys go
- 00:44:26through that makes that easier or is
- 00:44:28there any specific way that you've built
- 00:44:30up those skills as you've gone along
- 00:44:36yeah i'm happy to take this one because
- 00:44:37it's pretty relevant to my role day to
- 00:44:39day um
- 00:44:40especially over
- 00:44:42uh with during covert era when it's not
- 00:44:43in person it's been at least for me like
- 00:44:46even more difficult and i would say that
- 00:44:48uh the thing that i've learned the most
- 00:44:50maybe just because in my role i've
- 00:44:52worked with
- 00:44:53so many people like at least a couple
- 00:44:55dozen that have you know different
- 00:44:56priorities and different roles
- 00:44:58um it's learning how to communicate with
- 00:45:01each person in their own
- 00:45:03individual way or if it's a group
- 00:45:05learning how to communicate with that
- 00:45:06group in a way and um using a mechanism
- 00:45:09that you think works for that situation
- 00:45:10so if it's a group maybe it's um
- 00:45:13a weekly business review or monthly
- 00:45:14business review because that gets the
- 00:45:16highlights that everyone needs for their
- 00:45:18respective roles or if it's an
- 00:45:20individual person like some people
- 00:45:22really don't like to have uh even you
- 00:45:24know assume type call they'd prefer to
- 00:45:26do it informally over a slack or a
- 00:45:28messenger
- 00:45:29so it is just learning what your
- 00:45:31stakeholders
- 00:45:33prefer the most and adapting to that so
- 00:45:35i guess maybe just to summarize
- 00:45:36adaptability is a big part of that i
- 00:45:38think
- 00:45:42i would echo that adaptability is key
- 00:45:45uh for sure and i think intentional
- 00:45:47communication and i think the thing i
- 00:45:49continue to learn uh is
- 00:45:52less is often more you know how do you
- 00:45:54distill topics down to
- 00:45:57uh something that is you know clear and
- 00:45:59concise
- 00:46:00and not overly burdened with you know
- 00:46:03acronyms or technical jargon
- 00:46:08yeah i you guys basically said it all
- 00:46:11it's it's about getting comfortable and
- 00:46:14yeah understanding who you're working
- 00:46:15with because it's it's not a
- 00:46:17one-size-fits-all issue here
- 00:46:19um and i know from this is like a very
- 00:46:22you know if you have a toolkit you're
- 00:46:24trying to understand how to communicate
- 00:46:26something that's maybe more technical um
- 00:46:28leverage the people that aren't as
- 00:46:29technical in your life and say hey can i
- 00:46:31just give this five minute does this
- 00:46:33make sense to you am i communicating
- 00:46:34this in the right way um and sometimes
- 00:46:37if i'm giving like presentations or a
- 00:46:39business pitch i'll record myself giving
- 00:46:40the presentation and watch it back how
- 00:46:43however uncomfortable it is it's
- 00:46:44probably the best way to uh feel as
- 00:46:47though you know you're saying the right
- 00:46:49things in the right moment
- 00:46:51and kind of get over that initial fear
- 00:46:53because i've definitely lost some
- 00:46:54communication skills during the pandemic
- 00:46:56and it's been a little bit rough trying
- 00:46:58to get those back for sure
- 00:47:04great thank you for that everybody um
- 00:47:06and then it's kind of a one final
- 00:47:08question before we
- 00:47:11head into the closing comments um
- 00:47:14why did you guys choose the career path
- 00:47:16you did
- 00:47:17[Music]
- 00:47:20well to be honest i fell into mine so i
- 00:47:24never had a big plan other than i knew
- 00:47:27that being a river rafting guide wasn't
- 00:47:28going to pay the bills long term so uh
- 00:47:31but i
- 00:47:32kind of fell into the corporate treasury
- 00:47:34space and i found really found my
- 00:47:36passion around it because it's a really
- 00:47:37interesting space it's an intersection
- 00:47:39of
- 00:47:40markets and technology and banking and
- 00:47:42the organization itself so bringing all
- 00:47:45being at that intersection is just a
- 00:47:47really great spot to be
- 00:47:54yeah i already mentioned it a couple
- 00:47:56times i obviously have kind of gone back
- 00:47:58and forth into a couple different roles
- 00:47:59and didn't study mis and now i'm in a
- 00:48:01role that's mis concentrated so um i
- 00:48:04would say just again kind of to bring it
- 00:48:06back to what fiona and i said earlier
- 00:48:08about the curiosity aspect so maybe if
- 00:48:10you don't necessarily find something
- 00:48:12immediately that you're passionate about
- 00:48:14and looking for that passion
- 00:48:16searching for it
- 00:48:20yeah and and to be honest you know
- 00:48:23nobody grows up really wanting to be a
- 00:48:25tax accountant like it's not
- 00:48:27on like i you know i don't have any
- 00:48:29heroes that
- 00:48:31guide me here but i i think for me
- 00:48:34leaning and kind of again falling into
- 00:48:36this role to some extent i i mis allows
- 00:48:40me to have a very great impact in some
- 00:48:42ways and and fill a gap that is not
- 00:48:45necessarily explored by people that
- 00:48:47could maybe move into a more creative or
- 00:48:51like sexier industry this is
- 00:48:54for me my day-to-day is all about like
- 00:48:57being able to make people's lives just a
- 00:48:59little bit easier and i feel like
- 00:49:00wherever you're at whatever career you
- 00:49:02end up to be in um if you can find a
- 00:49:05piece of that and kind of cling on to it
- 00:49:08that's what i've done and you know you
- 00:49:09can find
- 00:49:11happiness within that so
- 00:49:13good for god
- 00:49:17great well we have about five minutes
- 00:49:19left so if there was any closing remarks
- 00:49:22from you guys that you wanted to share
- 00:49:24before we
- 00:49:25head out
- 00:49:28um i would just say
- 00:49:31encourage everybody to be a lifelong
- 00:49:32earner
- 00:49:33learner
- 00:49:35and
- 00:49:36no question is a dumb question so ask
- 00:49:38questions it's really important when you
- 00:49:39start out in the organization to ask as
- 00:49:43many questions and understand the why
- 00:49:44behind things not just the how but the
- 00:49:47why
- 00:49:48and uh
- 00:49:49and
- 00:49:50always learn something new every day and
- 00:49:51that will open up many options for you
- 00:49:58yeah maybe in the same vein um make
- 00:50:00mistakes i actually think that some of
- 00:50:02my best learnings or outcomes that came
- 00:50:05from uh mistakes that i made help my
- 00:50:07career the most um or maybe don't make
- 00:50:10the same mistake twice but make it the
- 00:50:11first time
- 00:50:16yeah and and
- 00:50:18you know this is your major your
- 00:50:20concentration your field of study does
- 00:50:22not define you
- 00:50:24and you can always switch jobs you can
- 00:50:26always switch careers
- 00:50:27um so never never fall into the sunk
- 00:50:30cost fallacy when it comes to that if
- 00:50:31there's something you're passionate
- 00:50:32about go for it because uh the pres you
- 00:50:35know the present is the best time to do
- 00:50:37things that you're going to want to do
- 00:50:38so don't hesitate
- 00:50:43great
- 00:50:44well thank you so much to everybody
- 00:50:47sorry about the slight mishap we had
- 00:50:49earlier i'm glad everyone was able to
- 00:50:51stay on and we could continue i know
- 00:50:54that um
- 00:50:56there have been some questions about
- 00:50:57contact information and
- 00:50:59we'll have to follow up with that after
- 00:51:02uh maybe by email with a along with the
- 00:51:04video of the recording and then
- 00:51:06um chris was there anything you wanted
- 00:51:08to close us out with
- 00:51:10only to thank uh all of you russell
- 00:51:13fiona max ed for your uh your time today
- 00:51:17and to thank everybody on the call and
- 00:51:19then um and uh wolf for your patients
- 00:51:23with the intrusion
- 00:51:25um
- 00:51:26like uh like dean pepper said um
- 00:51:29these are
- 00:51:30it's it's sometimes disturbing when
- 00:51:32events like that happen in the middle of
- 00:51:34an opportunity for community we'll
- 00:51:36figure out what we can do to make sure
- 00:51:38that that doesn't happen again
- 00:51:40but i appreciate everybody hanging on
- 00:51:41and i think that there was a lot that we
- 00:51:44we could take from today's discussion so
- 00:51:47thank you all for making time to share a
- 00:51:49part of your day with us
- 00:51:51thank you all right thanks everybody
- 00:51:53we'll see you again next monday
- 00:51:55thank you bye
- 00:52:05okay
- 00:52:06sweet
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