College Student Proves Oregon is a Lost Cause

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Zusammenfassung

TLDRCette vidéo présente un débat sur les définitions et applications de l'égalité économique et sociale, avec des références aux systèmes politiques de pays comme Cuba, la Suède et les États-Unis. Les intervenants discutent de la viabilité des modèles socialistes comparés aux systèmes capitalistes, avec des exemples de politiques aux États-Unis et en Europe du Nord. Le débat explore également la question du racisme systémique en Amérique, en comparant les progrès faits depuis les années 1960 et les défis persistants dans certaines communautés. Le rôle des politiques démocratiques et républicaines dans l'économie et l'éducation américaines est également discuté, avec des opinions divergentes sur les raisons des échecs et réussites locaux.

Mitbringsel

  • 💬 La définition de l'égalité économique et sociale est contestée.
  • 🇨🇺 Cuba et la Corée du Nord sont discutés comme exemples de socialisme.
  • 🗳️ Le débat sur le racisme systémique aux États-Unis est toujours pertinent.
  • 🏫 Disparités éducatives liées au financement des écoles dans des zones pauvres.
  • 📉 Les politiques démocrates dans les villes américaines sont critiquées pour de mauvais résultats.
  • 🇸🇪 Les pays nordiques sont cités comme exemples de bons systèmes économiques.
  • 💡 Des indices de liberté économique montrent que certains pays socialistes présumés sont plus libres.
  • 👨‍🏫 L'efficacité des dépenses éducatives américaines remises en question.
  • 🏙️ Les villes dirigées par des démocrates sont vues comme moins prospères.
  • 🌞 Une mention humoristique du "privilège blanc" abordée dans le débat.

Zeitleiste

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    Une conversation engagée où un participant cherche à expliquer ce qu'il considère comme l'égalité économique et sociale, en mentionnant des pays comme Cuba et le Venezuela. L'autre participant met en doute ces exemples, arguant que ces pays ne sont pas de véritables modèles socialistes à cause de l'interférence des États-Unis. Ils discutent également des pays européens comme la Norvège, la Suède et la Finlande, souvent cités comme des modèles d'égalité, mais l'autre personne souligne qu'ils ont des indices de liberté économique élevés, mettant ainsi en doute leur classification comme pays socialistes.

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Mind Map

Häufig gestellte Fragen

  • Qu'est-ce que l'égalité économique et sociale ?

    C'est l'idée que toutes les personnes devraient avoir les mêmes opportunités, indépendamment de leur statut économique ou social.

  • La Norvège, la Suède et la Finlande sont-elles des nations socialistes ou capitalistes ?

    Bien qu'elles offrent des services sociaux, elles sont classées comme économiquement plus libres que les États-Unis sur l'indice de liberté économique.

  • Pourquoi les États-Unis sont-ils considérés comme moins racistes aujourd'hui qu'en 1960 ?

    Des avancées comme le Civil Rights Act et l'élection d'un président noir sont des indicateurs de progrès.

  • Qu'est-ce qui explique les disparités économiques entre les communautés asiatiques et noires aux États-Unis ?

    La discussion suggère que les politiques sociales et l'histoire des aides gouvernementales sont des facteurs qui ont influencé ces disparités.

  • Pourquoi les villes américaines dirigées par des démocrates sont-elles critiquées dans cette conversation ?

    Elles sont accusées d'être mal gérées, avec des niveaux élevés de pauvreté et de violence.

  • Quelle est la perception de l'état économique des États-Unis ?

    Certains pensent que les États-Unis ont toujours des privilèges économiques malgré les défis actuels.

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    um economic and social equality I don't
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    know really what that means but maybe
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    you could tell me interesting yeah it
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    means that like all people kind of get
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    the same opportunity like Cuba like
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    Venezuela not like Cuba or Venezuela or
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    like North Korea no not like or like how
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    the Soviet Union did it right no I'd
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    like to I'd like you to stop like
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    interrupting me I think that all those
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    examples of like capitalist systems are
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    ones that aren't the Soviet Union was
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    not a capitalist system yes I know and
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    Venezuela is not a socialist system sure
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    it is they nationalize their oil gas
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    reserves they have nationalized
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    healthare nationalized schooling the
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    government owns the means of production
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    how is it not a socialist country
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    because the U like because of the
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    history of US interference socialism
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    canot be like enacted as it also sort of
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    functions under the GU of
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    social corrupt asck but show can you
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    show me any socialist country that works
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    yeah most of Europe so maybe Norway
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    Sweden or Finland yeah but they're more
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    economically free than America how so on
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    the world economic freedom index they're
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    ranked higher than America and so what
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    what does that like mean so lower taxes
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    less
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    regulation so they're not I wouldn't
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    consider them to be socialist countries
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    they provide for all so does Cuba how
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    does that
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    work Norway Sweden Finland also has a
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    homogeneous population I want to know
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    about this why do you think why is that
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    sort of thing it's 6 to million people
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    need a homogen
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    you don't need it but what what is I
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    don't they they have low rates of
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    immigration can you explain to me why so
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    they have they have less people coming
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    in their country every year that need
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    Medicaid equivalent type social programs
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    can you explain to me why they have the
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    strictest immigration policies in Europe
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    and Norway Sweden Finland and they don't
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    pay for a National military 70 to 80%
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    tax rates for the highest earners of
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    which I oppose completely Sweden has
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    full school choice which I'm sure you
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    support right I don't oh okay but Sweden
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    has full school choice I me also ranked
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    higher if all schools are funded equally
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    then yeah I would support school's
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    choice but the fact is that schools in
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    like richer areas have better funding
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    and thus give people better education as
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    opposed to poorer areas and thus poor
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    people who can't afford to like choose
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    that rich school who can't commute who
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    can't like afford the tuition are not
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    going to be able to get that level of
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    education so why is it that we've spent
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    more on education the last 60 years
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    federally but our test scores have
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    gotten worse why do you think that is
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    testing is not a measure of how about
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    graduation rates I mean any metric you
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    use our schools have gotten worse over
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    the last 50
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    years Baltimore there are seven schools
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    in inner city Baltimore where they can't
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    find one kid in eth grade oh wait so do
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    you think America's more racist today
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    than it was in the
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    1960s in some levels yeah really you
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    think America's more racist today than
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    it was in the
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    1960s still more racist I mean yeah I
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    want to say like I think like
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    I mean do you want to be more racist no
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    no it's not actually I think we're
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    significantly less racist so you can't
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    blame racism for why these communities
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    are not doing well significantly less do
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    not blame
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    examp um well let okay in the 1960s
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    blacks weren't allowed in the National
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    Basketball Association in the 1960s the
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    Civil Rights Act hadn't been passed
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    until 1965 the 1960s blacks are not
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    allowed to go to the same schools as
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    white
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    so like that's my metric so we passed
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    the Civil Rights Act in 1965 anal oh how
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    about this we had a black president
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    elected twice in 2018 2012 oh man so
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    since a black president was we Quint no
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    not wef finished racism we're
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    significantly less racis so the talking
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    point of the far left is that the
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    inequities that the black community and
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    minority communities are experiencing is
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    because of systemic racism in order for
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    that argument to be true America would
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    have had had the same sort of amount of
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    racism over the last 60 years or gotten
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    more racist any sort of logical analysis
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    of History would show we're
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    significantly less racist today than
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    they were in the 1960s so then what is
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    it any any level of racism is still
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    racism I think there's individual racism
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    but the idea that there's widespread
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    systemic racism does not exist okay what
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    about okay so here's an
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    example um you guys so up until probably
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    the mid 70s um like neighborhoods could
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    choose not to sell homes to black that's
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    why a lot of black people live in like
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    certain like parts of town you would say
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    and those are also generally parts of
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    town that have like underfunded schools
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    and stuff like that so the Asian
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    Community went through the exact same
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    type of discrimination yet the Asian
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    Community is the richest Community per
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    race in America so are you implying
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    something about the no you know what I'm
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    saying I'm saying the Asian community
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    did not have a series of social welfare
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    programs designed at them such as F
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    Federal welfare systems broken Public
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    Schools the Asian Community were one of
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    the poorest communities in the 1940s now
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    they are the richest Community per race
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    in America how did that happen you're
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    saying black people are they were taking
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    ad black people are poor because of the
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    Democrat Party who got them addicted to
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    government benefits stuck them in
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    clustered urban areas put them in broken
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    schools did all of that yes show me one
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    urban city where there's a Republican
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    mayor show no no show me one show me one
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    Urban area where there's more Republican
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    congressmen than democrat congress like
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    currently yes or even the last 50 years
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    it's Democrats that run the urban cities
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    Oakland Portland Chicago Philadelphia
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    but these are the most so you said
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    thankful but these are the worst parts
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    of America the most murderous the most
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    bankrupt the most hopeless are all run
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    by democrats yeah but there's no way you
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    can like make some sort of causation if
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    there's no sort of control for that you
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    can't say it would be worse without a
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    republican no there's no way you can
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    make that sort of POS you just can't
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    make that inference have data for it I'm
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    sorry stop okay can I give you an
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    example no oh you don't want facts not
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    do facts do facts bother you okay so
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    going to make up fake Republicans run
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    cities municipalities and Counties have
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    much lower levels of poverty over 30
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    years better run schools more likely to
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    balance their budget much more business
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    competitive N Out nine out of 10 of the
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    most business competitive states in
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    America are all run by Republican
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    government and Republican yeah it is
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    actually I mean that doesn't Utah Nevada
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    Arizona that doesn't necessarily have
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    any sort of relevance to your point so
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    why would you say that the broken inner
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    cities in America all have Democrat
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    Mayors and the bestun states all have
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    Republican Governors why would you say
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    that I would say possibly because people
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    see that Democratic Mayors and
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    democratic government officials can fix
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    the broken system have they fixed have
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    Democrats fixed anything in the last 60
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    years no no you're right because we've
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    had a Republican controlled Congress no
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    we've had a Democrat controlled
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    president from8 201 president does not
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    have like ultimate power over you're
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    right Obama controlled the house and the
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    Senate passed the healthcare bill that
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    destroyed one six of our economy
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    borrowed trillions of dollars raised
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    taxes grew government and then
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    Republicans took back the House of
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    Representatives and I don't know why
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    you're so upset when you still have ton
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    of money dude what do you mean I mean
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    you are you I'm not upset you're the one
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    that just I'm actually quite happy and
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    thankful I live in the greatest country
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    ever to exist yeah EXC excuse me for
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    swearing I feel like this entire get up
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    is just you afraid of losing your
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    economic and like white male privilege
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    wait what privilege do I have as a white
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    person a
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    sunburn no no seriously ignorant it was
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    nice to meet you your hand yeah but can
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    you explain it was nice to meet you I'd
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    like you to think about the way your
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    actions affect other people not just the
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    white male people in this country what
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    does being a white person have to do
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    about anything
Tags
  • égalité économique
  • socialisme
  • racisme systémique
  • éducation
  • politique
  • suède
  • capitalisme
  • Etats-Unis
  • démocrates
  • républicains