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the lsu radio green giants fm you're
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tuning in to another episode of the
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what's up bro podcast i am dj miggy and
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i am dj korra
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and before we cut off our last our last
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episode
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we were
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teasing you guys on how we were going to
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dive deeper into
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the work life balance of the de la salle
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brothers so we have some very special
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guests today who will kind of break it
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all down for us so dear brothers would
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you like to introduce yourselves
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hey to everyone i'm brother kenneth
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martinez
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and i'm based in university of st
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lasalle
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and i'm brother alex diaz fsc i'm also
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based in the salvo hollywood as its
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principal
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all right thank you so much brothers for
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coming with us this morning and taking
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the time to you know help enlighten our
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students with the work faith or
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work-life balance of the de la salle
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brothers so with that being said let's
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dive right into the first question
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so from what i understand
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being a brother is not a quote unquote
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job but a way of life and a ministry so
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that said is there such a thing as
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separating your personal life from your
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life as a brother if there is how is
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this done in your context
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i think for for the beginning of my own
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journey as a brother
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the work-life balance was difficult
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because normally the young brothers are
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the workhorses
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of the
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of the school
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there's so much work that they give you
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a full teaching load campus ministry in
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smaller schools you have two or three
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jobs at the same time however i'm very
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sure that the
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personal agenda and personal life is an
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important even in during those most
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difficult days because
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they're also a good sense of support
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so when there's less work you seek more
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time for yourself so if there are phases
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in a young brother's life where that's
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difficult but as i get older
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you know
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i begin to see that there is importance
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in having
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a real uh different set of friends
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or a connection with older
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students that are now alumni that you
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continue to connect with and other
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friends outside of the school circle
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this is a good way in which
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you get a better perspective of how life
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is lived and you have a sense of
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distance from the school
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that can get very demanding
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in many times throughout the year
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think it's uh to me it's difficult to
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really separate my personal life and my
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life as a brother
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because whether with a habit or not
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whether it's a weekday or a weekend
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my being a brother is
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something i live for life
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um
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just the same
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even if i try to
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live my life in a personal way
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outside work outside the ministry i
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still have my brother people still
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recognize me as a brother
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and
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with that there are certain
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responsibilities that i have to
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take your attention to because i am a
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brother whether with the habit or in
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mind
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all right thank you so much brothers i
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guess like any path anyone can take it
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really takes
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it's a matter of getting used to
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uh dividing that work life and you know
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the personal life that you have for
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yourself
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so cora i think we can move to the next
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question
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yes so you did mention that
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you have both
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your days spent as active brothers in
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the mission but you also have time for
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yourselves for your friends so how do
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you balance that your work as a brother
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and still maintain a social life and
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time for your family for your friends
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i think it's very important for us to
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understand that
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you you have to schedule time for
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yourself with your friends it's like a
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regular
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work schedule
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some people fill their calendar with a
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lot of work
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i also feed my calendar with not only
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work but also some obligations some
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personal and social obligations
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there are some phases wherein you think
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that
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it's just about school but there's also
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a chunk of time i give to myself and
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make sure that the weekends doesn't look
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like it's going to be work as well
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then you blur it
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there's some days that the weekend flows
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uh the workflows into the weekend and
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after a while you don't like that to
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happen anymore you want your weekends
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really for yourself and i'm very
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fortunate
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that uh there's a uh you have another
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property here the granada property which
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is an echo park a farm
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and by padhasa
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and it's a very conducive environment
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just to be
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silencing and quieting yourself amidst
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nature so i look towards that time also
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not only just
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having social life but having quiet time
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by myself
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there's one thing i learned
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as a brother through the years was that
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it's important to set boundaries
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boundaries between work
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and
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in my personal life
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for example specifically what i do at
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the end of the day i actually don't
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bring my laptop back in the community
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because it
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gives me the temptation to reply to
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emails in the evening the privacy of my
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own bedroom of which i
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i make sure that i avoid and or i don't
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do
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at the end of the day it's really just
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for myself
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my community
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doing things other than work
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while on a weekend i don't work at all
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i
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don't send emails i don't reply to
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emails unless it's really an emergency
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i do
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other things other than work
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like my hobbies like
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catching up on my netflix shows and
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things like that
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okay so i definitely relate to both of
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the
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sentiments shared here because honestly
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during this pandemic i've come to
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realize that your to-do list is not your
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wish list so it really is about saying
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yes to certain things and also knowing
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what to say no to and actually in
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relation to what you said i also have a
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follow-up question if i may
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um are the brothers given the leeway to
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experience other forms of recreation
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other than your community organized
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gatherings such as maybe having a
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nightlife or other activities as well
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brother alex will answer that question
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why me brother
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uh
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yeah
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yeah because we're i know we're given
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we're given some leeway and freedom to
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really
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and we're encouraged in fact to
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to build on our hobbies
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and do other things that uh
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other than work right um so for example
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here in the community
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um
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four of us brothers here have pets it's
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like at the end of the day we
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talk about pets we
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what we show off our pets and
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things like that
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in the weekend
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i do yoga i uh
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i go out with friends because i'm i'm
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back here in holland where i was born
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and where i studied and finished my
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degree so so i'm pretty accessible to my
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friends and i ensure that at least you
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know some weekends i get to see them or
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my family as well
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so there's there's we're given the way
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to
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to
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building our hobbies and do other things
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because again work life balance is
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important not just for any professional
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but for every person
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and
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the brothers also see value in that
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did i answer that right brother can yeah
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you know when you talk about night life
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it's kind of different connotation
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sometimes you might mistake that night
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life is an active life
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but night life to me
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uh is really turning towards quieting
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myself after a busy day so what i
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normally do is i do some light exercise
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in the morning
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or uh walk for about 30 minutes but as
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part of my winding down i swim for 30
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minutes so i have a
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if the day is okay
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i have a full hour of exercise and
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that's part of how i prepare for the
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night
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10 seconds is basically i always have a
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funny funny uh
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motivation i said happy hour brothers
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happy hour so
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6 pm
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and sometimes it's not only you know on
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weekends it's also on weekdays you know
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so yeah
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i i try to have a bottle of beer and
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then i wind down about some pika pika
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before dinner
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and uh actually i wind down with rosary
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because i am part of a rosary group that
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kind of support each other by praying
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the rosary my batch about four or four
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or six of us prayed the rosary and it's
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been a year and a half since the
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pandemic
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so i'm sorry about that but uh
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it's about a year after the pandemic so
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it's something that
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supports me because
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as a university administrator
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the problem has been
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the stress
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has been doubled
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doubled in a sense that we continue
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education ministry
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but the methodology
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is now
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quite distance
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it's no longer face to face
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so we have to work around that
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and that is very stressful not only for
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students but
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for staff teachers and administrators
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like so you have to make a real
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commitment even more
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for strengthening your own spiritual
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personal life
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and that is my night out is that correct
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brother alex
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i think i can relate brother because
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maybe when i was much younger
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night life had a certain connotation and
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was something that a young person would
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sometimes you know
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desire or look forward to on the weekend
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on friday night or even thursday years
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back
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but now
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because it's pandemic and because i feel
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like i've uh
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i'm all matured in life
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it does not appeal to me that much
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anymore and like brother kenneth to be
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nightlife it's just you know being quiet
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yeah having a beer or two mixing my own
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cocktail drinks with brother kenneth and
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during our happy hour
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and just lounging in the community or
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even have dinner outside i think that is
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night life for us now
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i can't say much for the
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for the younger brothers who are much
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younger than me
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but uh
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i think
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your idea once idea of a nightlife
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changes as the brother matures in his
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location
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yeah i really like the sound of that
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just knowing that
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the night doesn't have to be noisy for
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you to enjoy it so that's really
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beautiful thank you so much brothers for
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sharing and actually we have a next
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question maggie
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all right thank you cora so we've been
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discussing the lives of the last few
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questions now
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however there are some students who are
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probably curious about this does the
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lifestyle of brothers now differ from
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the lives of brothers from 100 years
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back
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brother
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can answer that very well
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you know what i'm turning already um
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60 next year i'm already a dual citizen
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so that's why brother alex differs to me
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however i wasn't a brother 100 years ago
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the context definitely has changed
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because communication
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and lifestyles
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and the environment has changed
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a lot and
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that that is a big difference it's the
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method the ease of travel
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the ease of uh the lifestyle
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of people
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they completely change it's easier now
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to connect it's easier now to network
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it's easier now
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to uh have a more convenient life
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so it has changed so if i were to enter
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100 years ago i don't think i would have
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the same
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ease of traveling communicating and
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connecting to people
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and second i think
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the church has also changed
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you know
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if it's really listening on the ground
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to what's happening
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the the policies and reflections of the
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church will also change
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with the time
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for the brothers i think i've seen i've
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been a brother since 1986.
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so it's quite a long time ago when alex
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was still uh an aspirant
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so
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in 1986
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the brothers also were only from the
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philippines we were only assigned in the
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philippines
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we studied which studied in the states
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but now the brothers are all over asia
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and are somewhat studying abroad
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but the region is now being populated by
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filipino brothers
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in southeast asia that has changed
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so we've just not confined ourselves to
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being a filipino philippine district but
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now are part of us
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lasallian east asian district
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to me i think it's it's
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the the lifestyle is more relaxed more
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comfortable less structured
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and more towards
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giving you the responsibility to live
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your vocation
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and to live in community
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in a more fluid manner
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less trick so i would think that that is
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how i would think would be the main
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difference
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and i agree with brother kenneth because
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through the years um the church has
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accommodated and has adjusted to the
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science of the times do know that
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de la salle during his time his ideas
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were considered revolutionary and
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innovative
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meaning
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his ideas of innovating in the classroom
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were something unheard of
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and was considered
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out of this world even and
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that was something that attracted me to
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brothers because i knew
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when i joined the brothers that this is
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a congregation that is very sensitive of
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the science of the times and will
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continue to adjust as the years progress
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the brothers i don't see the brothers to
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be
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very very traditional
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and
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by the book but
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correct with what brother kenneth said
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we're in information we're taught to
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live responsibly as a religious rather
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than being prescribed on how to live and
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and what to do
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so it's about having personal
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responsibility of our formation that is
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central in our formative years as a
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brother and i think that is something
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that we carry on with us and we carry
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with us as we go through our life as a
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religious today
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all right thank you so much brothers
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actually it is very enlightening to see
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how
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things definitely changed for the lives
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of the de la salle brothers throughout
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the decades and for even the past
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hundreds of years however we do have a
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follow up question to this although you
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said there are a lot of changes that
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have happened since then what do you
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what are the important things that have
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endured from back then up until today so
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like ways of life of the de la salle
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brothers or in terms of the mission that
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you guys have
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i think what has changed is the
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foundation of vocation any vocation for
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that matter
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is a life of faith
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uh a commitment to this vocation
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to any christian vocation comes out of a
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deep belief
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that god loves us
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and at some point that love is
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is shared to others
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in a mission
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so i think that's very important the
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foundation of our vocation has not
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changed
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it's basically
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expressed also through education
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that service is that
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is the output of a life of faith
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so
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uh in terms of personal lifestyle that
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has changed
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the about uh the vocation as it lives
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that has changed
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but the way
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we start the day or start our own
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inspiration
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is basically
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a life of faith a life of trust and
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confidence in god
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and that hasn't changed
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and inspired by by that faith
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the brothers put premium on community
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life
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in
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in
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through the years that hasn't changed
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because
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community life is central to our
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to our vocation
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and
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we do things in communion
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amongst ourselves in our respective
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communities
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at the same time we are sharing the
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mission with our partners with our
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associates with our stakeholders in the
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school um because the mission is
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something that is shared as a community
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of of lasallian so i think that hasn't
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changed
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uh through the years but rather it has
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given more emphasis in in
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we put more premium to it because
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we are we are a congregation of
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of brothers who live in a community as
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opposed to brothers living alone or by
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ourselves
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so community life is central and i think
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that's also what attracted me to the
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brothers though it is not easy to live
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in community uh it's it's challenging uh
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i mean by the way challenging i mean if
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if you have troubles in your own home
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with your family uh how much more with
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brothers you hardly know or you didn't
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grow up win
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but grace the grace of god is there
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your maturity as a religious is there
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your ideas of how to live and make
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compromises and contribute to
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making your community
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healthier
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are there so so i think these are
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elements that make up a good community
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that we continue to live by
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and that's why it's a happy community
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here in bakalad
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thank you brothers i think the aspect of
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living in a community as the lasalle
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brothers was something that was actually
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brought up in the
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so like like the previous brothers said
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there are the struggles and challenges
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in that aspect of their lives uh i think
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carl we can move to the next question
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now
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yes so you did mention that
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you have your brother duties or your
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duties as brothers but what else do you
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guys do outside of that
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outside of that
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uh first of all i just
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if
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i don't want to dichotomize what i live
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as a brother and what i live in as a
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brother and outside
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um
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as i mentioned by alex it's difficult to
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remove my identity i travel and then
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sometimes i travel by myself
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but even though nobody notices me and
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recognizes me as a brother i carry that
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identity
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but
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one of the things that's very very uh
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essential for me is that i like a lot of
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time by myself
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sometimes i'll be um
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in a house by myself for two or three
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days
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i just be quiet just have just time to
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rest just time to pray just time to
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uh start my my usual email it just gives
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me a lot of energy to be by myself and
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second i like to
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i like to also be in the beach and i
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think the brothers also like that we are
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because many of us are rich
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brothers
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and uh we understand and we're also
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foodies because bacolod is known for
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a great reasonable food
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we always also eat out so there's a lot
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of agenda revolving around food
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and especially this christmas people are
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giving us food so
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to me
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it's been a very uh varied and rich life
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and then i also regularly connect to my
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own family some people think that when
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you leave the brothers you need totally
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the family but uh it may be true when
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you're a young brother because of your
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business but as you get older you
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reconnect with family
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and they
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you find a new role in the family
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you know so that makes sense to us as we
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grow older as a family then you become a
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sort of um
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a support role to the family uh a
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spiritual road to the family so it's
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becomes uh
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integral that you also
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now that you have a little bit more time
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you try to be there for the family
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and not really like before when you were
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younger you used to forget about that
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but
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now there's a real need to connect to
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others
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and to family as well
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free pandemic
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during weekends i enjoy eating alone
00:23:08
i enjoy being alone in fact
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i go out
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discover a new place
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try the food
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criticize it post it in instagram
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and
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say whether it's delicious or not
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or i
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watch movies by myself and i enjoy
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watching
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movies in the cinema alone i think my
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weekends are my me weekends
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that was pretty pandemic
00:23:38
when the pandemic came
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when borders were freer
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i go to the beach with friends
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drive around maybe to tagaytay and back
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for
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no reason but just to get some air and
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go back to community
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um here in bakula yes but i cannot
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mention that we do
00:24:03
love to eat because
00:24:05
food is very good in bakola so we try to
00:24:08
discover new places
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either as a community or by ourselves
00:24:13
i mentioned i do yoga every saturday
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that's with a
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group of uh
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friends in high school and college
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and
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we go to the beach we're beach brothers
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here and
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a few weeks ago maybe two weeks ago we
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were in the beach twice in a week so
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hence our dark complexion
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so there you go
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well it sounds like
00:24:41
this conversation that we're having
00:24:43
right now is helping to debunk a lot of
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misconceptions
00:24:46
or even stereotypes of what it's like to
00:24:49
live a religious vocation because i know
00:24:52
that some people have the idea that once
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you're
00:24:55
in a religious vocation you don't get to
00:24:58
do certain things like you used to
00:25:00
before or that you don't get to spend as
00:25:02
much time with the people you grew up
00:25:04
loving and the people that you make
00:25:06
connections with so
00:25:08
with that said
00:25:09
what in the life actually of a brother
00:25:12
did you initially think was true but
00:25:15
turned out to be different when you
00:25:17
became one
00:25:18
oh
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difficult question
00:25:23
loaded
00:25:24
[Laughter]
00:25:25
brother alex you gotta go ahead
00:25:30
can i say there was none because when i
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was in high school and college when i
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was an aspirant the brother who mentored
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me
00:25:40
pretty much exposed me to
00:25:42
the other things a brother can do
00:25:45
um
00:25:46
i did live with the brothers in their
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community when i was in college
00:25:50
regularly that's one week every month
00:25:53
that was when brother kenneth was also
00:25:55
here then
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um
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yet this brother who mentored me and who
00:26:01
is now my godfather in the religious
00:26:03
life uh
00:26:06
introduced me to other things to other
00:26:08
things that the brother can do
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um
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while
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would be shocking for some but made me
00:26:16
realize that brothers are human beings
00:26:19
too
00:26:20
that
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while they live in community they have
00:26:22
friends outside well they pray
00:26:26
through structured prayers through a
00:26:28
schedule following a schedule
00:26:31
outside schedule they're pretty much on
00:26:33
their own but they're very responsible
00:26:35
with how they conduct themselves in
00:26:37
public
00:26:39
because whether personal or are
00:26:42
as a religious
00:26:44
to dichotomize that is tricky and
00:26:47
it's difficult to do
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but
00:26:50
i've seen that the brothers are
00:26:52
are
00:26:53
human beings in in aside from community
00:26:57
what attracted me to the brothers is
00:26:59
that they're very human
00:27:01
and if they weren't
00:27:02
as human as i i perceived them to be i
00:27:06
wouldn't be with them right now
00:27:09
thanks to brother kenneth he was there
00:27:11
yeah
00:27:16
you know what
00:27:17
you have to figure this as part of a
00:27:19
journey
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partly because
00:27:22
from the very beginning
00:27:24
i felt i was very much of an introvert
00:27:26
nobody believes that because i've always
00:27:28
been
00:27:29
out there
00:27:31
saying so many things but you know for
00:27:33
an introvert to be
00:27:35
playing the role of an extrovert is
00:27:37
extremely tiring
00:27:39
so as you move in
00:27:42
that the introversion becomes a second
00:27:45
nature
00:27:46
and you don't figure out that you have
00:27:49
to uh compromise your personality so we
00:27:52
have young brothers who have played
00:27:53
their introversion uh a lot
00:27:56
uh despite a very public figure
00:27:59
uh
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so
00:28:00
however there is
00:28:02
some expectation
00:28:04
that has changed over the years partly
00:28:06
because
00:28:07
as an introvert
00:28:09
pardon your voice is not as strong and
00:28:12
as confident
00:28:14
but as you grow older because you stay
00:28:17
longer
00:28:18
much longer than bra and brother alex
00:28:21
i've stayed a little bit longer
00:28:23
your voice becomes stronger because you
00:28:25
feel that
00:28:26
uh you're
00:28:28
one you're one
00:28:32
good voice
00:28:33
and you're that
00:28:35
the voice of the spear is another good
00:28:37
voice you don't feel
00:28:40
a sense of
00:28:41
you're being diminished because you're
00:28:43
not the religious superior or
00:28:46
you're not the director but you have a
00:28:48
you feel confident that you have now a
00:28:50
voice
00:28:52
whereas when you were younger because
00:28:54
you were introvert your voice was sort
00:28:56
of muffled by your invision and
00:28:59
insecurity
00:29:01
so in a sense
00:29:03
it's not the brothers that change it's
00:29:04
you that changing
00:29:07
so it makes sense that
00:29:09
the brothers are moving but you're also
00:29:11
moving so it's kind of difficult to say
00:29:14
what were your expectations and what
00:29:16
changed because you're both moving
00:29:19
that's true you're not you're not
00:29:21
it's like your family's role today
00:29:24
10 years
00:29:25
moving forward or 10 years before it was
00:29:28
your you're on different ground together
00:29:32
so how can you say that uh things have
00:29:34
changed
00:29:35
and while they are also changing
00:29:38
so it's quite it's quite a very fluid
00:29:41
and dynamic environment
00:29:43
and um
00:29:45
and i think we're just probably
00:29:47
calibrating our responses every time
00:29:50
based on what the environment
00:29:54
thank you so much brothers that was
00:29:56
nothing chance well
00:29:58
yes
00:29:59
definitely some food for thought brother
00:30:02
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00:30:04
all right so i guess that brings us to
00:30:06
the end of this podcast doesn't it
00:30:08
maggie
00:30:09
yeah it really does actually thank you
00:30:11
so much brothers once again for taking
00:30:13
the time to be with us and help us get
00:30:16
into the
00:30:17
lives of the delasol brothers and how
00:30:19
you balance you know that work life or
00:30:21
that life as a brother and you know the
00:30:23
time you allot for yourselves so if you
00:30:26
want to get to learn more about our de
00:30:27
la salle brothers you can check them out
00:30:29
on their facebook youtube and spotify
00:30:31
which is the lasalle brothers of the
00:30:33
philippines
00:30:34
and if you want to see more of them you
00:30:36
can also check out their instagram and
00:30:38
twitter which is at
00:30:40
dlsbrothersph
00:30:42
and of course if you have any questions
00:30:44
or maybe you'd like to discern with the
00:30:46
brothers yourself you can reach out to
00:30:49
them on their email which is vocations
00:30:52
at delisle.ph
00:30:54
you can also check us out on our green
00:30:57
giant fm social media which is our
00:30:59
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00:31:02
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00:31:05
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00:31:09
we also have our youtube which is bip
00:31:11
dot ly slash uppercase ggfm
00:31:16
yt
00:31:18
and of course if you want to check out
00:31:19
our other podcasts and our playlist you
00:31:21
can head over to our spotify which is
00:31:24
green giant fm
00:31:26
so with that being said this has been
00:31:29
what's up bro this has been dj miggy
00:31:32
and this has been dj korra
00:31:38
and we are also accompanied by our
00:31:40
brothers brother alex and brother
00:31:42
kenneth thank you so much brothers for
00:31:44
being with us once again today
00:31:46
okay thank you
00:31:48
animal la salle
00:31:51
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