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one of the world's most widely read
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journalists takes on the biggest story
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of our times I'm still asking the
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question what was 9 11 all about Thomas
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L Friedman New York Times Foreign
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Affairs columnist three-time winner of
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the Pulitzer Prize you don't think Osama
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Bin Laden did it
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against Islam
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time of War a search for answers
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I'm Thomas Friedman since 1995 I've been
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the Foreign Affairs columnist of the New
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York Times I've often described myself
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as a tourist with an attitude twice a
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week I give my readers my own opinions
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my own attitudes on what's going on in
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the world and that's what I'll be doing
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in this program
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before I was a columnist I was a
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reporter for the times I covered the
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Civil War in Lebanon the Arab Israeli
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conflict from Jerusalem the Gulf War but
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the biggest story of my life without
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question has been September 11th for the
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last year and a half I've been on a
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journey talking with people all over the
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world particularly the Arab and Muslim
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worlds I've been searching for answers
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to two questions first what motivated
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those 19 young men those hijackers to
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board those planes and kill three
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thousand of my brothers and sisters and
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second why did so many of their fellow
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Arabs and Muslims applaud what they did
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September 11th ripped a hole in the
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fabric of civilization a jagged hole and
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we need to repair that hole but we can't
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begin to repair what we don't understand
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until we understand the roots of 9 11 I
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don't think we'll ever be safe
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foreign
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what is it that is triggering such
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intense anger at America
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one of the people who explained it to me
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best was a young Muslim political leader
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in Belgium
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it was a weird thing because we had a
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kind of mixed feeling
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we all wanted to forget these scenes we
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didn't want to see these people jumping
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out of the windows and all that that was
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like very very disturbing we kind of
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wanted to focus on the fact that America
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got a punch in the nose
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and I think if we're honest with
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ourselves most of the Muslims all over
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the world also felt that way America got
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hit in the face and that cannot be bad
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explain that to me how widespread did
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you sense was the what I would call
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passive support for 9 11 as an act of
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punching America in the nose and where
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and where did that passive support come
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from
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I don't want to make an intellectual
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analysis of that I'll give it very
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simply uh America was kicking our butts
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for 50 years and really badly
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supporting the bullies in the region
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whether it's Israel or our own regimes
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uh giving us not only a bleeding nose
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but breaking a lot of our necks
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killing civilians by bombing Iraq and
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saying it's the mistake it's the fault
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of stuff it's collateral damage is
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regrettable by acceptable in a way
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America educated us like that
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okay so maybe civilians that I got
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killed in the United States are the
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fault of bush and it's regrettable but
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acceptable so actually we are good
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students of the United States we learned
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the American mentality you know we have
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to hit back we don't like to kill
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civilians but you know collateral damage
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I am against that logic I'm against it
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when the United States executes I'm
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against it also when my own people
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executed but I cannot be blind in seeing
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that it's America that educated Us in
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that direction
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the idea that what America has done in
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any way could have Justified what those
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hijackers did is abhorrent to me welcome
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the prime minister of our close friend
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and Ally but there is no denying that
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Arab anger and American support for
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Israel and American support for Arab
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dictators is one of the rivers of Rage
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that caused 9 11. the this anger is not
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the only emotion that fed 9 11. there
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were two other rivers of Rage there is
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the anger and frustration so many
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Muslims feel because their civilization
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once first in the world has fallen so
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far behind
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and there is also anger at their own
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regimes whose corruption and repression
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have kept them powerless and voiceless
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I heard about these three rivers of Rage
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wherever I went
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one of the stops on my journey was Qatar
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a small Arab country on the Persian Gulf
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I visited the campus of an American
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Medical School Cornell that it opened a
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branch there our deterrence you know
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works against him has worked for 10
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years the campus also houses a high
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school Qatar Academy and like the
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medical school it offers an
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american-style education and just really
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interested in trying to take the Pulse
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of people
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I've got to be on Al Jazeera tonight on
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the show Crossfire so maybe you could
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warm me up
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or prepare me I didn't bring my boxing
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gloves or anything so I hope I I don't
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need them tonight
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um you know one of the things I'm still
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studying still asking the question is um
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what was 911 all about
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what motivated these young men to do
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what they did on that day so I'd be
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interested in your answer to that
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question well I think CDC 911 is all
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about you see the blood of other people
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being spilled as of where sheep and you
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think you know with these people sitting
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in these big buildings and ruling the
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world think that their blood is
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expensive and that we're just animals
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Palestinian blood isn't any cheaper than
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any other
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um kind of blood whereas I've heard of
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an Arab Empire and I've never really
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heard of a Jewish Empire and America is
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only 300 years old so how are is the
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Arab world backward and how is our blood
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cheap you know in what sense
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what in um
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you're warming me up for Crossfire
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thank you yeah what I think like the
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only different thing about the 11th
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September it is that it occurred in
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America the 11th of September is taking
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place daily in Palestine and daily
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before and Lebanon and different
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countries of the Arab world but the
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thing is I'm I mean I think everyone is
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against the killing of the innocent but
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why was the world so much astonished
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when it happened in the state the only
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special thing about it was it was not
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expected to happen in the states it will
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not be expected to happen in Britain or
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any of the powerful countries what
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happened on September 11th I don't agree
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with it but I think this was the last
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way they could have gotten their point
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across they were forced to go to an
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extreme and not that I support loss of
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innocent lives but it had to be done in
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a way but you think they were trying to
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make a point and what do you think it
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was
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that that America should to
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try not to bust the
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SE young people in Qatar spoke for a lot
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of young Arabs their feelings toward us
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are very complicated they identify with
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America at times but also identify with
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those who want to punch America in the
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face
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I was so struck by the fact that one of
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their teachers came out and said
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something to me it's really you know so
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he hit home with me she said these young
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people so look up to you you the United
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States and they so feel you look down on
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them thank you thank you so much that's
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where the tension and the frustration in
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the relationship is that's where this
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whole relationship starts to go wrong
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what's your name
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okay cool stand by stand by two one
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round seven
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one of the most widely seen Arab TV
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channels is Al Jazeera known to
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Americans for airing the tapes of Osama
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bin Laden this is Al jazeera's most
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popular talk show the opposite direction
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while I was in Qatar I appeared on the
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show my opposing guest a Jordanian
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Professor Dr Ibrahim
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is
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14 years
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okay it took you 14 years
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the world on the one hand the whole
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experience that Al Jazeera was was
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really depressing I mean there you are
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across the table from a Jordanian
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intellectual who spent 14 years studying
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and teaching in the United States
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um and and yet he held the most
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distorted utterly dishonest views about
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the United States the good news for me
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is that they give someone like me the
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chance to rebutton and that's kind of
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neat I mean I bill Tommy Friedman Jewish
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boy from Minneapolis have been
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interviewed multiple times on Al Jazeera
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TV and been free to say whatever I want
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they get in my face and I get back in
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theirs
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maybe maybe we should just get a cut out
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of me we can put it here just a picture
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and you can shout at it okay I mean
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really I mean would that be easier it's
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great to see you okay a conference in
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Qatar on U.S Islamic relations brought
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me together with many of my Arab friends
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well nice to see you people I've gotten
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to know during my years of reporting
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from the Middle East
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want to see you tomorrow and I'm really
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hoping you have time exactly okay some
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of them spoke frankly about their
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frustrations with America I like very
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much what you said oh thank you I wanted
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to comment there's a huge space where
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the Americans and the Arabs can meet and
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not only meet but actually work together
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in deep solidarity my old friend Rami
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huri is a Jordanian writer who has spent
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long stretches of time living in the
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United States we want the goodness of
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American culture and values and people
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to become the goodness of American
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foreign policy we know Americans are
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wonderful people we send our kids there
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we want to go study there I'm the chief
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umpire Little League baseball in Jordan
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it's one of the greatest things I do in
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life it's also one of the toughest
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things I do and most satisfying but this
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blend of American and Arab culture is
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deeply anchored in this region and many
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of our people but the people in the Arab
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world have been extremely angry at what
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Israel has done to the Palestinians
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right and they're equally angry at what
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they see as American acquiescence in
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this process so the American link to
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Israel is Extreme extremely important
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really touches that second one is the
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question of double standards that the
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United States applies the double
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standard hypocritical policy and applies
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one standard here and one standard here
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and that is the single most important
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thing I think that the U.S can do and
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you you would have people jumping over
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you to be your friends
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but unfortunately for now so many Arabs
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view America as the enemy but I want to
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go back to the point you raised about
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why people uh maybe hate you here or
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something like that I don't by the way I
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talked with Muhammad Kamal Cairo
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University professor and some of his
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students people associate you with
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America Kamal is an expert on the United
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States a controversial topic today in
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the Arab world I was teaching a course
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on foreign policy in general but most of
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the cases I used were related to the US
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and I found out that some students you
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know
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started first as you know rumors and
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then someone stood up and told me you
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have been brainwashed by America one of
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your students one of my students in
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class so it started by you know being
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brainwashed by America you're a CIA
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agent you're a you know a dual Citizen
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and and and so on so people here are
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very suspicious of the US I mean don't
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you think it's a rather sad Islam
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Middle East or Terror
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those three
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linked in one way or another that's
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probably
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I know that this is not uh Thomas
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Friedman saying this is the way it is in
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the United States
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you know it's the way it is in the
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United States because
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it also is the way it is in in reality
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to some extent you know I mean we
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weren't hit by 19 Norwegians on
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September 11th and had we been hit by 19
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Norwegians on September 11th trust me
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you know Oslo would have a very
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different meaning in the American
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lexicon today okay
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um the problem
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is all the terrorists we've been hit by
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were Muslims that's that that's the
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objective fact you know and not only
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were they Muslims they claimed to be
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acting in the name of of Islam that's
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that's the tension here that's the
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problem you have I have I don't want
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this to be a war of civilizations but
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unless there's a war within
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civilizations between the good guys and
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the bad guys there will be a war between
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civilizations
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Cairo Egypt the biggest city in the Arab
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world
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this is the place where the hijackers
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leader Muhammad Atta grew up
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son of the middle class into a terrorist
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now this is um
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this is muhammadata's neighborhood this
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is where yes yes yes I will show you a
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the nearest place to his house
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the air playwright Ali Salem wrote
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something remarkable in Time Magazine on
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the first anniversary of September 11th
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something that I thought explained a lot
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he said in my country art education and
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the economy have all been leveled to a
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ground zero and as a result he said
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these hijackers these extremists are
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pathologically jealous they feel like
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dwarfs which is why they search for
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towers and all those who Tower mightily
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would like to have coffee maybe they
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could uh yeah let's just have yes yeah
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it's about here
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when you wrote In Time magazine that
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these men
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were of 9 11 were pathologically jealous
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what do you mean by that
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something Twisted in the mind yes that
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you feel that drives you to insulted
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exactly by somebody right because he is
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a tower right
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so they want to bring down the tower is
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that it to it's the symbol of what they
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really want to eliminate the others
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completely
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dwarfs are walking in the streets of
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life
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searching for tall building
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for Towers
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to bring them down
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because they are not able to be tall
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like them
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in 2002 the UN issued its Arab human
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development report researched and
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written by Arab experts the picture it
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paints is Stark and Grim
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the gross domestic product of the 22
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Arab states combined is less than that
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of Spain a single country
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more than half of all Arab women are
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illiterate
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and 51 percent of Arab youth polled said
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they wanted to move away from their part
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of the world
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those are really Grim statistics and in
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a globalized world where everyone can
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see into everyone else's living room
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where everyone can compare themselves to
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to everyone else around the planet young
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Arabs know that they are really falling
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behind so many other regions of the
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world other regions of the world which
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they do compare themselves with which
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they should be the equals of and that
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produces a lot of the Rage that's
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underlying 9 11. that produces this
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sense of a Poverty of dignity
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911 isn't about the poverty of money
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it's about the poverty of dignity
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feeling that their civilization a great
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and proud and Rich civilization is now
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so falling behind the rest of the world
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and if I've learned one thing covering
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world affairs it's that humiliation
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it's the single most underestimated
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Force
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in international relations
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the son of a lawyer grew up in a
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comfortable Cairo family
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he studied engineering and got his
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degree
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for years he dreamed of becoming an
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urban planner
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but like so many educated young Arabs in
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countries with failing economies his
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hopes never quite panned out
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I expect
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all bad things from those who feel that
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there are little and dwarves because
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they will search for an outlet
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foreign
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left Egypt went to live in Hamburg
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Germany to get a degree from a Technical
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University
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there he felt out of place
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at became more religious he began
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attending a radical mosque that preached
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that America was the enemy
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the recent months dozens of accused
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Islamic terrorists have been arrested in
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Britain Spain and Germany
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most fit the same pattern Arab
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immigrants who had not been radical back
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home but got radicalized in Europe
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understanding the chemical reaction
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between young Arab Muslims and their
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European host societies is one of the
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keys to understanding 9 11.
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I went to Belgium which has a large
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Muslim population
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the vast majority are peaceful people
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trying to live their lives
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but it was a small belgian-based
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Al-Qaeda cell which assassinated sham
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Masood the head of the Northern Alliance
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in Afghanistan just two days before 9
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11.
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and the tension within Belgium between
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the Muslim Community they're both new
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immigrants and second and third
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generation Belgian Muslims is quite
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profound it's quite sharp and really
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shows you the kind of anger that can be
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produced within the hearts of young
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Arabs and Muslims who feel unwelcome by
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their host societies
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thank you
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in Antwerp Belgium's second largest city
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the anti-immigrant Flemish block party
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recently won a third of the vote
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their slogan our own people first
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they say immigrants who fail to
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assimilate should be forcibly expelled
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who came from Morocco when she was a
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child is now a member of the Belgian
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Parliament
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the boys feel so frustrated
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because of the discriminations they feel
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they see that the Belgian Society don't
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care about them don't give them a good
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education system doesn't give them a
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good job and because we are coming also
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from from a macho culture
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they feel really humiliated and that's
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why they are so aggressive and so
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frustrated all those young men this year
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we are going to vote
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heads the National Organization of
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Belgian Muslims
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to have your dignity you need to have a
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job to have a situation to be recognized
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by your environment by the society
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dignity
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that's an interesting word because
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that's a word that's come up
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every stop when we ask people
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what's at the bottom of 9 11 Muslims use
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that word with us where does that come
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from Nerdy
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the Muslims they have the feeling to be
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humiliated
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because of the Middle East because of
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the stereotype Islam terrorism
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fundamentalism they have the feeling
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that they are not recognized as citizen
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and this feeling is quite deep
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within all the Muslims
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in December 2002 a young Moroccan school
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teacher was murdered in Antwerp by a
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Belgian neighbor it was seen by Muslims
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as a hate crime
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has word spread young Muslim men began
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smashing store windows and hurling
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stones at the police
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to be resolved in the whole society I
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mean Flemish population must understand
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that discriminating against migrant
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youths putting them in in a very very
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vulnerable situation where they can say
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okay if you are not interested in me
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then I will follow a more extreme
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solution
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this is the 2002 Summit of the Arab
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League where leaders from 22 arabic
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speaking countries have gathered
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together
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almost none of them were democratically
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elected
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we talked to Young Arabs and Muslims if
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you ask them why where's all this
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free-floating anger coming from
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um they'll tell you Israel what it does
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in the United States what it does in
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support of Israel
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but to believe that was the only thing
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animating these young men is to believe
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that they care more about what's going
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on in a third country
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then they care about what's going on in
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their own countries and I don't believe
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that they also care very much about how
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their own governments are treating them
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you've talked a lot about what America
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did to you what the British and French
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did to you what have you done to
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yourselves what are Arabs responsible
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for are they only sub objects to be
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acted on by these outside Powers no sure
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not of course we have some
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responsibility that we are not revolting
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against our governments and this has to
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come but if you know how oppressive
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these governments are and how what kind
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of police States we are faced with what
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are people feeling stripped of you see
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it's the power to change their life is
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that it it's it's being citizens that
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determine their own destiny is democracy
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Saddam Hussein
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Libya's Gaddafi
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Syria's Assad for decades dictators like
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these have been oppressing their people
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15 of the hijackers came from Saudi
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Arabia and the other four from other
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Arab countries
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but why would anger at their own
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governments cause young Muslims to hit
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America
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because they held America responsible
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for keeping their leaders in power
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oil
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but here in the island Kingdom of
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Bahrain Arabs are taking steps toward
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democracy
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recently the authorities allowed the
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country's First Independent Newspaper to
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open a was it
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its editor mansural jamri is a democracy
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Advocate and critic of bahrain's Royal
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government
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since we started here with al-wasada
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lots of the discussions has been
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centering around the new way forward for
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us in the Middle East and okay political
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rights will take some time to for us to
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gain fully I feel that there is a
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natural progression towards more freedom
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it is inevitable that everybody in this
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area will have to do that allow more
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opinions to be put in the lack of
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democracy in charity yeah Coast
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September 11th if we already had real
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democracy Lewis democracy that one could
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have been avoided exactly it's the
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person who thinks that he's not
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respected locally and internationally
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despite the fact he's got the money the
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editors told me that among the al-Qaeda
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suspects being held at the U.S base in
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guantanam or Cuba are six people from
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Bahrain so they come from the elite from
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the upper class of the of the society
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they don't come from the Shia they don't
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come from the underclass and in a way
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that for and for a young man from the
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al-halifa family who receives a monthly
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salary who is everything he's 23 years
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old to go to Afghanistan to fight I mean
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there must be some sort of an
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explanation here and how do you explain
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it talking now about your own guys in
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Guantanamo you empty a person you fill
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them with money you fill them with the
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wealthy fill them with material things
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but that does not fulfill his aspiration
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as a human being lack of respect as a as
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a dignified person with a view locally
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and internationally has resulted in
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fundamental phenomenon people feel
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powerless powerless it would be nice if
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other Arab newspapers could be as honest
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as Al was it I really wish you well okay
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that's great unfortunately so much of
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the air pressed today is filled with
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distortions
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we saw really some of the most vile
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rumors being spread and believed across
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the Muslim world that the CIA or the
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Mossad actually did 911 that Bin Laden
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had nothing to do with it that Arabs
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were not on the flight that the
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Americans did it and maybe the most
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popular lie that four thousand Jews were
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warned not to go to work on the morning
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of September 11th and when I would meet
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with young people in the Muslim world
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and say wait a minute I mean think how
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crazy that is
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who would have a master list
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who would then have called through them
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and found who were the Jews
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who then would have called them on the
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evening of September 10th and how could
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not a single one of them alerted the
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police and by the way could you name a
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single person who was called
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well they would think about that for a
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second and then they would say the
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saddest saddest thing to me they would
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say but Mr Friedman
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I read it on the internet
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so much of this stuff was spread on the
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internet and because that internet comes
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with a patina of Technology
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it seems almost more true to these young
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people than if they read it in a
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newspaper or magazine or heard it on
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television and I think we've got to keep
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that in mind
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how long is the ride into Jakarta
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45 minutes
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another stop on my journey was Indonesia
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the largest Muslim nation in the world
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I went to talk with students at an
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Islamic boarding school near Jakarta
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we would love to hear your perspectives
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uh on America today how you think about
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America if you think about it
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differently now than you thought about
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it before but how do you look at the
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United States today the real thing is
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that most Muslims are afraid of America
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because they think uh America is uh you
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know like against Islam because the WTC
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tragedy uh it we cannot prove that
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Muslims have made it we cannot uh prove
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that Osama Bin Laden did that and also I
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read in some newspaper it said that the
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real people who did that tragedy are are
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Americans themselves I asked Wissam what
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she thought of President Bush when
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George Bush became president uh you know
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like some people thought that he's you
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know like he's only going to be like
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just bothering he's not going to make
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anything anything new but uh I think his
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uh oh and also because people didn't
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want uh algor to win because he was he
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was Jewish somehow she had heard her
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read that Al Gore is Jewish in fact he's
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Christian so let me ask you a question
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um where do you get most of your news
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about the world about America uh from
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the TV from internet too and also
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because I can speak Arabic so I also get
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access to uh to Egyptian and Arabic
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magazines and newspapers as well thing
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that struck me about wasam was obviously
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she had certain misimpressions of some
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of the basic players in American
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politics and things going on in the
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United States but at the same time she
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she spoke wonderful English she had
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enormous curiosity about the United
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States and a thing that struck me most
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was when I asked her if she'd like to
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study in the United States
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education
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that's when her eyes really lit up
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September 11th could never have happened
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if there hadn't been fanatical leaders
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who knew how to exploit the anger of
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those 19 young men
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and that's why for me the best way to
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understand the 911 hijackers is to think
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of a cult like the Cults led by Charles
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Manson or David koresh or Jim Jones or
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the people who blow up abortion clinics
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in America
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in all these Cults you find a tight-knit
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group Bound by a utopian ideology
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devoted to charismatic leaders
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the leaders of the cult of Al Qaeda are
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two people one famous the other less
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well-known both extremely dangerous the
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famous one is Osama Bin Laden but Bin
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Laden has a partner a man who has
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devoted his life to twisting a peaceful
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religion into a violent political
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ideology his name is Dr eyman
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al-zawahariable
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[Music]
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is
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the ideological brains of al-Qaeda if
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Osama Bin Laden was the chairman of the
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board I'm in zawahari was the CEO he was
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the Trotsky of this group the real
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ideological commissar
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sawahuri's terrorist roots go back to
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the Egypt of the 1980s to the
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assassination of President Anwar Sadat
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The Killers Muslim extremists outraged
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by Sadat's peace treaty with Israel
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arrested a few months later and charged
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with conspiracy in the murder was the
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30-year-old zawahari
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this is
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we are Muslims we are Muslims who
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believed in their religion in this broad
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meaning as boss and ideology and
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practice and hence we tried our best to
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establish this Islamic State and Islamic
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Society we are not sorry about we have
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offered for our relation and we have
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sacrificed and we are still ready for
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more sacrifices telling the victory of
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Islam
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zawahari would spend three years in
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prison after suffering torture he
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emerged more Angry than ever at his own
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government and at the American power
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behind it
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in 1998 he merged his group Egyptian
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Islamic Jihad with Bin Laden's Al-Qaeda
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to create a terrorist network with cells
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all over the world
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even the upper middle class that's right
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right in Cairo I talked with Abdullah
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schleifer who knew zawahari back in the
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1970s and 80s
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schleifer an American and a convert to
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Islam was for many years the Cairo
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bureau chief for NBC News
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we took a boat ride on the Nile
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Simon was attracted from the time he was
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a teenager into a utopian vision of an
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Islamic State so instead of being
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concerned because in traditional
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religion your concerns are very personal
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yourself and God then because of that
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you and your family instead it's
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building the kingdom of God on Earth in
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other words utopianism it becomes a
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utopian ideology so where Muhammad Atta
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meets our ahiri is exactly where we are
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rage meets ideology
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Atta with his Rage Against the World and
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the Injustice of the world is given an
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explanation by the ideologue so you
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Muhammad Atta I can I can solve all your
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problems I can solve all your
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discontentions uh I mean is saying to
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someone like Muhammad Atta
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the Injustice we have a system that will
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give you a system mind you a system we
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have not a religion because religion
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gives you inner peace it doesn't
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necessarily solve any social problems
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but he's saying we have a system that
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will give you justice you feel
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frustration we have a system that will
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enable you to flower and the system was
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and the assistant is what we call
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islamism or whatever you want to go in
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other words a ideological politicized
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Islam highly politicized in which the
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spiritual content is taken out the
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personal relationship the spiritual
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content is taken out of Islam and
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instead it is transformed into a
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religious ideology like fascism or
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communism and instead of it being the
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the reign of the perfect Grace or the
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perfect Nation the perfect class it will
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be the reign of the perfect religion
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after speaking with Abdullah schleifer I
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went to the al-azhar mosque one of the
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most important in Islam the Egyptian
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government gave a special permission to
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film Friday noon prayer
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it was so striking to me just seeing
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these average Egyptians average Muslims
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are coming to the mosque hundreds upon
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hundreds of them performing their ritual
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prayer side by side and you really got a
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sense of their own very individual
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spiritual connection with their own God
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[Music]
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foreign
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then after the prayer leader finished
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his sermon these young men took over the
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mosque and in an instant we went from
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prayer to politics
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the truth is most people left the mosque
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when the prayer was over but in leaving
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the mosque to these political activists
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it struck me that they were also in some
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way letting Islam and its spiritual
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message of a god of mercy and compassion
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be hijacked as well
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for me it was a real window on the
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struggle for the soul of Islam
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inside
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in Bahrain something really important is
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happening the country's first truly free
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elections
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my friend Yusuf al-shirawi a former
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minister of development and Industry
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invited me to go with him to cast his
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ballot what does it mean to you Yusuf in
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your lifetime you're you're the first
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Bahraini to graduate from college yeah
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and now you're able to vote in a real
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democratic election what does it mean to
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you a lot
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I think to me it is a crowning a
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crowning of 80 years of modernization
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you feel good about it
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today
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177 candidates are vying for 40 seats in
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Parliament
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because I wish I could vote too
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siding was to see how much bahrainis
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wanted to go and vote go ahead you go
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and vote
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what made this election even more
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important for this part of the world was
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the fact that for the first time women
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could both vote and run for office
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I was so struck by the women with the
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little slits in their veils it's all you
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know that was open for their eyes but
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boy they could find that Ballot Box
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is it going to be the beginning of a
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revolution in Bahrain no but everything
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in its own time everything starts with
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one step
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the 911 just might change the Arab and
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Muslim world even more than the United
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States
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people here have gone from shock that
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their sons could have perpetrated 911 to
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denial to at least the beginnings of
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introspection
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now there's a heightened struggle over
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what their relationship to America
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should be and how to define themselves
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in their own societies
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I call it the conversation
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many people who speak from Egypt many
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people feel that we've done the you know
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the monarchist uh system we've done the
00:40:47
Socialist system and more recently and
00:40:50
very dangerously we've done the capital
00:40:51
system we've tried the private sector
00:40:52
and none of it's worked so what's left I
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spent an evening with a group of young
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Egyptian business people members of the
00:41:00
rising generation they would like to see
00:41:02
their country move toward prosperity and
00:41:05
more political openness it's my own
00:41:07
personal belief that any change that
00:41:09
takes place if it is to take place has
00:41:11
to take place from within it can't be
00:41:13
induced forced from abroad it's
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interesting yes because some of your
00:41:16
colleagues over here were saying we need
00:41:19
you to press us from the outside you
00:41:22
know not not to force us and to to
00:41:24
support it if you'll take a look the
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friendliest Middle Eastern politicians
00:41:29
have been educated in the United States
00:41:30
and they've learned the American system
00:41:33
and they've come home and they've wanted
00:41:34
to try and Implement that where they are
00:41:37
and what have you done after September
00:41:39
11 for 15 or 19 people you've
00:41:41
essentially put a wall around the United
00:41:42
States by not allowing us entrance into
00:41:45
the United States to educate ourselves
00:41:46
to maybe one day even build these
00:41:48
institutions in our own countries how
00:41:50
can we build a Harvard if we don't go to
00:41:51
Harvard if we keep arguing the past
00:41:54
we'll never reach anywhere I think we
00:41:56
should start from here and number one
00:41:58
know what's the reason of those two of
00:41:59
nine eleven which is in my opinion it is
00:42:02
poverty ignorance and oppression we all
00:42:05
want peace now 10 years ago when we were
00:42:08
younger we want to kick these readers
00:42:10
out completely we want to take every
00:42:13
Palestine completely back but now we
00:42:15
want to have a better future for us and
00:42:18
our kids and we want to deal in peace
00:42:20
with Israel and we want to reach this
00:42:23
stage now
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somehow
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we began this journey before the current
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Iraq crisis exploded onto the world
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stage we don't know how this crisis will
00:42:36
end
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but there's one thing I know for sure
00:42:40
how we manage the aftermath of this Iraq
00:42:42
story and what kind of Peace we try to
00:42:45
construct out there we'll have a big
00:42:47
impact in determining who wins
00:42:51
mountains of Suspicion
00:42:52
the rivers of Rage were the voices of
00:42:55
moderation who really do want to partner
00:42:57
with us
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we are Partners in the future of this
00:43:04
planet of this Village
00:43:07
we have to teach these people
00:43:10
that to our one family on this planet
00:43:13
there is no he and she and you and me
00:43:19
there is we
00:43:22
what you do in your life is the key to
00:43:26
Paradise it's life
00:43:30
God didn't create us to die
00:43:33
but to live
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and in order to live we have to live
00:43:37
with accordance to the others we have to
00:43:41
live with others we can't live alone we
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can't
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thank you
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