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hello welcome to this special edition of
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a current affair coming to you tonight
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from london
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ten years ago the world was obsessed
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with susan boyle after she walked out
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onto the stage of britain's got talent
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and sang in that surprising voice that
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she had a dream
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but fame and success can be a
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double-edged sword and susan struggled
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afterwards with public meltdowns and
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family issues even while her albums were
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breaking sales records
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then she got a diagnosis that changed
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everything
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because you were also carrying the
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dreams of everyone who's
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ever been bullied
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ever been misunderstood
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ever been marginalized maybe
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i was really saying if i could do
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you can do it
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and it's amazing that the amount of
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people have taken that up
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physical disabilities and everything is
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that your message
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yeah
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to spread the kindness
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yeah don't say just a part of me just
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see the whole person
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not just
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about me just the whole person
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it's a pretty good whole person
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it was such an act of courage i think
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wasn't it i did mostly for my parents
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because my mother died two years before
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that
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and i said to her to try and do
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something with my life she used to uh
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say well you're doing yourself you've
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got a reasonable voice you should do
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something with it did you really think
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about not going ahead
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well now courtney pierce morgan i
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was all set to quit the show but he told
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me don't
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you have you have the press to prove a
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point to go back and do it again
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glad i didn't know
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i can imagine how hard was it though to
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you know just stay with it
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well
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when you've got uh a lot of pressure a
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lot of different things going at once it
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is difficult but you say to yourself
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this is what you wanted to do this is
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what you
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really
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put yourself in for
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susan was an immediate phenomenon to
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date she sold more than 25 million
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albums being number one in 40 countries
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and had two grammy nominations but 10
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years ago the instant fame took its toll
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susan broke down after the final of
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britain's got talent the pressure was
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too much i was already
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you were i mean there had been times
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i guess back when we look back at the
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pressure that you came under
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you know you were a global sensation
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how did you
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process all of that pressure susan well
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to begin with i found it difficult we
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are not going to lie to you but uh i
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think uh
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you know it's defeated the unknown
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really you know that's really what it
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was at that particular time but uh
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as the years have gone by as i learned
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to
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learn to you know tune myself into
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things more there were people at the
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time who had concerns about your health
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and they thought it was too much for you
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do you remember feeling
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that kind of pressure and that sort of
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concern about whether it was too much
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well
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after the team i didn't have the tools
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to deal with it one person who knows
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exactly how challenging this time was
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for susan is her publicist and manager
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from the very start nicola phillips my
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initial role was to come in and do
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publicity and also look down on the very
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negative headlines that were happening
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at the time i mean there was there was
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this tall poppy thing i mean first of
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all she was wrapped up in a big embrace
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and then suddenly everyone was out to
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get her and
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how did she deal with that
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i mean
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not very well
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but i don't think anybody would when you
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know when you're being publicly
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assassinated and called names and
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no one's going to deal with that well
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especially when you have come from a
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very provincial town in scotland and you
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have spent your life really wrapped in
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cotton wool um so it was it was dealing
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with that shock so no i mean obviously
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it upset her for years i thought i had
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something a bit more serious
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you know so that was sort of took off my
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shoulders a bit you'd always thought
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that you were very slightly brain
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damaged
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weren't you
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serious brain damage as well because it
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was educative the assumption was that
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you were a little bit slow that you were
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a slow learner
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but really when you got your asperger's
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diagnosis you were also told that you
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have a very high iq higher than normal
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well
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that came as a bit of a surprise
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i think sudden fame
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is
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you know i mean it's a lot to deal with
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for someone who
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doesn't have aspergers
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but
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adds a whole other layer to it doesn't
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it well you
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and that ass aspergers you just have to
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make people aware that sometimes you
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have to go a certain place
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you know don't be too
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bombarded with things i mean at the very
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beginning was very bombarded yes and and
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you've been very open about your
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aspergers which is you know
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which is decent of you because a lot of
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people
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try to keep that stuff secret and you
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haven't done that there's nothing that
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keeps secret really there's nothing to
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be ashamed of no everybody has something
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i mean
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we flow of your leg
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but uh they shouldn't be ashamed of it
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it's something that you bring out in the
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open and the hope that you help other
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people you know but i'd like to feel the
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voice for people who have been underdog
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no you you you described it as king
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kong's mother when you feel like you're
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having a
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what you're talking about
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i'm more controlling it i can laugh at
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it now feels like it's in a bubble and
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you can't really talk very well because
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it's communicative as well
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if people give you a bit more time
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like you're doing
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thank you
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i can
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eventually get my words on and i'm okay
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i don't get a sense that you're
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struggling with your words at all right
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[Laughter]
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whatever though
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so what are the coping skills that you
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learned when you got that diagnosis
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well
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when you
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when you're like that
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you get hyperactive you know when you're
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shaking everything so learn to calm down
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using relaxation techniques snowball a
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lot of people they've remembered the
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public meltdowns and and the you know
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the serious issues that she's had over
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the years and a lot of people have
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formed a view that she really shouldn't
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be performing anymore because it's not
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good for her
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well i see i completely disagree right
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she has an amazing life
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susan will never care about you know
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money she'll never care about chart
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positions she cares about making people
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happy for us having to go through you
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know airports security and goodness
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knows what else but for somebody with
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asperger's that's heightened because you
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know suddenly you're experiencing a pat
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down or
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people are in your face it's you know
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it's a lot do you think that
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she's got a handle on the meltdowns now
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and that they just won't happen again
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are you confident about that i'm not
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saying that they won't ever happen again
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right i mean but i think in terms of
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where
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we were um and the frequency
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i mean they're they're few and far
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between now what are your dreams now on
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the bucket list a little bucket list
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okay
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i want us to ride a bike i've got my
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very first bike never had a bait when i
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was a kid a bicycle
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and i've got my professional license
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i've learned to drive sure really
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you're good so far well i've managed to
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just hit a street lane but that way
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okay that's a really good start
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and why wouldn't you have gone for your
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license you know years ago why has it
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taken until now for you to do that oh 58
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my figures at 58. a little bird told me
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that you're also thinking about getting
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your pilot's licence
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oh yeah i did mention to somebody that
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was interested in flying
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are you serious about serious about it
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yeah
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so there you are is it just a shot
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behind the wheel or something
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mind you uh
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i definitely have nerves to steal me
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dipping i think city dive
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what else is on your bucket list
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i was gonna buy a horse
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a horse no yes i'm going to going mad to
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die
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why do you want a horse just a beautiful
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animals they are beautiful animals
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you're going to learn to ride as well
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let's keep you guessing
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there's nothing you don't want to do now
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is there it feels like you've been
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i don't know keep going i just want to
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keep entertaining people making albums
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touring
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in my next lifetime i'm going to have
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that voice
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we cry when we first see him you say you
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go don't they have to say it's a good
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bit to be because you keep yourself
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grounded you also make yourself
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appear more normally other people you
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know approachable if you like and is
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that important to you not to get ears
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and graces to
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put ears and glasses on when you need
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them
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[Music]
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we were given exclusive access to their
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rehearsal on the eve of the britain's
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got talent finale just kind of come
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together we're music legend michael ball
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look at me
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showbiz i plumb and love it and susan
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we're preparing for their live
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performance
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it's the biggest show on british
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television yes it's uh it's a special
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one as well it's 10 year anniversary
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and and i'm singing with one of the most
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fabulous singers was today your first
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rehearsal
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your first rehearsal is literally the
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day before the performance
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[Laughter]
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are you feeling confident i really am
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and i think there's a different
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performance energy that you get i mean
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you're in a sort of subterranean right
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here
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when you walk out and it's it's going to
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be wonderful it'll be wonderful it just
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it's yeah yeah but we've got to nail it
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yeah yeah you got to nail it okay i'm
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getting out of your way i mean there's
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no other staff from reality tv who has
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you know been going 10 years
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and it's it's hard in the entertainment
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industry to go missing for a while which
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she's done and then come back
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yeah
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but we managed to do it
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she's the queen of the compact including
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the uk
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and scotland
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lots of space for further information
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might you come to australia
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i would love to come to australia i'd
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love to revisit them australians would
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love to have you back susan and i if you
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come back i'll introduce you to my two
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horses
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well they're good
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okay we can go for a ride
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susan is not your run-of-the-mill
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recording star and she's not your
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run-of-the-mill interview either she's
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extremely shy and her asperger's plays
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into how she interacts and how she
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communicates which really when you think
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about it makes her achievements even
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more remarkable she has more money now
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than she will ever spend so the fact
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that she's keen to step back into the
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spotlight is testament to her grit and
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maybe a little bit of scottish
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stubbornness as well her new album ten
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is available now
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you