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uh good morning uh today we'll be
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speaking about one of America's most uh
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well-known certainly most popular poets
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in the 20th century uh Robert Frost and
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the reason why um I think uh Robert
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Frost provides a very interesting
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illustration of popular poetry in
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America is that I think think there are
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certain discrepancies between the way in
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which his audience perceived him and the
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way in fact uh his poetry actually reads
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and um U should be understood uh but
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just to give you a small background
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about uh Robert Frost since uh as you
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can see from the handout that I've given
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you his uh dates are 1874 to
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1963 I assume that most of you are
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unfamiliar with uh his personal
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appearances with with the way he looked
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uh and the way he was received but just
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to give you some notion of the
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popularity that this poet had in the
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20th century he won the pulit Sur prize
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for poetry four times in his lifetime uh
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The pulit Sur prize is one of the
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popular calibrations of uh fiction and
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poetry in America but to win it four
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times is surely uh
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outstanding uh and the reasons for that
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I suspect is that uh most of his
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audience saw him as a very
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recognizable very gentle very Regional
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personality with whom they could
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identify or empathize uh usually when
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people thought about Robert Frost they
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saw a man who stood a little under six
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foot tall uh he had a great shock of
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white hair he spoke in a kind of grally
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voice with a New England accent and it
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was always with New England that Robert
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Frost was Associated particularly the
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states of Vermont and New Hampshire
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uh when people thought about Robert
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Frost or thought about Robert Frost's
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poetry because frequently people assumed
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whenever Robert Frost wrote a poem The
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Voice in those poems were the voice of
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the man that the the poet and the
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speaker of the poems were identical and
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within those poems they found certain
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values that were associated with New
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England or more broadly America and
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those values were affirmations of uh
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certain cherished Notions or Traditions
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that Americans deeply felt and so when
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they heard Robert Frost read or when
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they read his words silently on the page
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themselves they had a wonderful sense of
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a deeper affirmations of things that
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they uh felt and even more than that
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since Robert Frost wrote in a language
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that was apparently straightforward very
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plain very simple no fancy abstruse uh
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phraseologies uh his audience felt very
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comfortable with him uh felt very
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comfortable with the man with his
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language and with his values uh so the
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uh in many ways as I say Robert Frost
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the person and the poet seemed to
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epitomize American values and
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affirmations in straightforward language
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and uh it was for that reason I suspect
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that uh he received those popular
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recognitions that he did as illustrated
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by the pulit surprise given four times
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uh having said that having established
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uh uh Robert Frost the the if if we had
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had a poet laurate in the early part of
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the 20th century which we didn't we do
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now as it turns out but if we had had a
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poet laurate surely Robert Frost would
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have been our poet laurate for surely
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the last 40 Years of his life uh but now
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here's the but uh on his 85th birthday
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1959 uh there was a a literary party
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held in his honor in which uh a certain
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heresy was introduced by one of the
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leading literary critics of America at
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the time Lionel trilling Lionel trilling
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in toasting Robert Frost on his 85th
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birthday introduced the notion that
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Robert Frost poetry is not as
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affirmative or cheerful or bright as
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most of his audience originally assumed
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uh in fact he spoke of Robert Frost as
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one of our terrifying poets he spoke of
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Robert Frost's poems as dark parable
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of The Human Condition and this needless
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to say shocked the audience uh when uh
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uh the response was recorded uh for
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weeks for months even for years after
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that people wondered how it was that
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Lion of trilling had the the gall or the
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nerve to question what turned out to be
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one of America's literary institutions
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Robert Frost Frost himself interestingly
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enough never disputed uh tring's
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comments he simply uh in some sense uh
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recorded his own discomfort at being
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looked at so closely um the um uh almost
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concomitant with this uh heresy if we
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can call it of lion of trilling uh the
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official biography of Robert Frost began
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to appear this is written in three
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volumes by Lawrence Thompson Robert
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Frost himself had said to Thompson that
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he wanted him to be the official
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biographer and he did so and as the
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three volumes began to appear certain
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aspects of Robert Frost's personal life
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showed up which turned out to be uh in
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many ways contradictory to the Public
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Image that Frost presented as this
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gentle
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grandfatherly uh retainer or or
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receptacle of American values and and
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and
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affirmations uh in fact it seemed as if
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um uh the personal events of frost life
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uh were entirely opposite that out of
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his public life uh one of his children
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suicided apparently is a direct result
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of a frost very harsh treatment of him
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throughout his life uh Frost
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relationship with his wife was
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apparently a very bitter and awful one
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um Frost relationship with other poets
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with critics with people at the
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universities at which he's taught were
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very CTIC um the uh one phrase which in
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some sense to to my mind sums it up was
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told to me by the poet Anthony hick said
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Frost said him you know when I die I
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want the whole world to die with
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me uh now as you can see this
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particular uh understanding of the
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private Robert Frost is had great
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variance with with with the public Frost
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and it strikes me that uh one way in
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which we could uh test this particular
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kind of doubleness is to take a look at
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a poem of Robert Frost which to my mind
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if it's not the most popular poem that
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Robert Frost has ever written it's
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surely one of the top two and the poem
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that I'm referring to of course is the
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road not taken you should all have it on
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on your hand up um and um as I um said
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to my colleagues earlier if there is a
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single poem that American High School
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students would have read uh throughout
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their career it would probably be this
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one or the other most popular Frost poem
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Stopping by Woods on a Snowy Evening
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and um the reason why I uh choose this
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poem is that uh its popularity I think
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mirrors the kind of popularity that
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Frost had throughout the first half of
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the 20th century uh and yet I think a
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close reading will reveal some of the
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discrepancies that we might find in
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Frost personal life so uh before doing
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anything else I'd like to as I usually
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do in my poetry classes simply read the
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poem uh the title is the road not
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taken two roads diverged in a yellow
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wood and sorry I could not travel both
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and be one traveler long I stood and
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looked down one as far as I could to
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where it bent in the undergrowth then
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took the other as just as fair and
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having perhaps the better claim because
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it was grassy and wanted wear though as
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for that the passing there had warned
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them really about the same and both that
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morning equally lay in leaves no step
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had trotten blank oh I kept the first
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for another day yet knowing how way
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leads on to way I doubt it if I should
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ever come back I shall be telling this
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with a sigh somewhere ages and ages
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hence two roads diverged in a wood and I
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I took the One Less Traveled by and that
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has made all the
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difference now uh my suspicion is that
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the appeal of this poem not not only in
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high school curricula but also across
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the broad American public resides in the
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way in which people have seen this uh
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extra apparently extraordinarily simple
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poem as a parable for basic decisions
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one has to make in life I mean if you
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could think it's almost a cliche to be
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talking about walking down the path of
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Life the road splits in two ways one has
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to make a fundamental decision uh about
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which road to choose and then people
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think back about that yes that's exactly
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what's taking place in the poem and then
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they remember the ringing conclusion of
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this poem it says I took the One Less
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Traveled by and that has made all the
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difference and in that those those lines
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in those last two lines people hear an
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affirmation of non-conformity don't go
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with the crowd Go Your Own Way just
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because everyone's going down one road
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you can take the path Less Traveled by
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you can go in your own way and that is
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the right thing to do because that will
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give you the personal character that's
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necessary to have the sense of having
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had a meaningful life as simply
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conforming to others
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expectations U now that last phrase the
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last two lines of the poem to my mind
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has sunk into the collective
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consciousness of Americans along in the
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same way that um say Henry David Theo's
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famous remark in in Walden when he
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speaks about marching to a different
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drama has the same kind of affirmation
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you go your own way you listen to your
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own insights you don't pay attention to
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others um and perhaps I can give an
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illustration of this because I mean just
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to show this is not simply something
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that uh has been understood by uh let's
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say superficial readers but also some of
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the uh most astute and and surely at
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least in the illustration I have in mind
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some of the Geniuses of America have
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turned to this particular phrase as um
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uh an illustration and an affirmation of
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something they held uh deeply true uh
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Frank Lloyd Wright probably the most
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outstanding architect in the United
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States uh also wrote a great deal about
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his own life many say he wrote much too
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much about his own life the um but right
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at the beginning of his autobiography he
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retells a tale of walking out with his
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uncle Peter a presbyterian Minister up
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through the small snow hills behind his
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house in Wisconsin uh he describes his
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uncle Peter as a ramrod of a man a
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person who had a sense of moral
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certainty and Direction uh and in some
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ways was assigned the task of taking
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little Frankie out for a walk not only
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for exercise but also for moral
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edification now he let go of Frankie's
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hand and he walked to the top of a small
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hill uh Frank being seven or eight years
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old Ran this way that way picked up a
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flower made a snowball whatever when he
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got to the top of the hill to join his
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uncle the uncle grabbed him by the
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Scruff his neck turned him around around
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and showed him the two sets of tracks
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Uncle peters's which ran directly from
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the house to the top of the hill the
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shortest distance between two points is
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a straight line in physics and morality
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um and then there was this terrible
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zigzag here there their uh route that
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was taken by Young Frank Lloyd R and uh
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Uncle Peter of course wanted to
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illustrate what he should have done and
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then Frank Lloyd Wright says
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and without making any reference he says
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I took the The Road Less Traveled by
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collapsing this and that's made all the
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difference now Frank ly W assumed that
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anyone reading this would key in to that
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Robert Frost poem they know what he was
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talking about if you're in with the in
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crage you say uncle Peter and all those
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people who look in terms of conventional
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or consensus ways of looking at things
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they go that way but me Robert Frost and
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you Gentle reader we know what we're
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really going to to do
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now I say that because um one of the uh
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the problems with a poem of this sort is
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that once you take a closer look at it
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it seems that those kind of values and
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those kind of
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affirmations uh begin to dissolve now I
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mean if we could if just go back to the
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poem there are certain to my mind
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critical issues that people who have
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read this poem now for let's see it was
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published in 1916
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uh so that would make it um um 50 60
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70 uh uh 76 years uh the critical
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question that I put is this how do we
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know that the person speaking in this
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poem took the road Let's Travel by well
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one returns to the poem says two roads
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diverg in a yellow wood and sorry I
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could not travel both and be one
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traveler long I stood and looked down
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one as far far as I could to where it
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bent in the undergrowth that first
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stanza is not talking about having gone
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one way or the other but that point at
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the fork in the
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road the speaker looks down one for as
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long as he
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could and then he says then took the
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other now this is very curious because
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what this says is that the road that was
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examined is not the one that's taken at
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all and the other one's taken very
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quickly doesn't say looked at the other
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one for a very long time look down this
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one then took the other very quickly and
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he says as just as fair and then adds
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and this is usually the lines that
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people recall it says and having perhaps
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the better claim because it was grassy
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and wanted wear and there I said well
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there it is uh this road has grass
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growing on it presumably that one
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doesn't and therefore no one has trod on
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this particular path many people must
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have Tred on the other and therefore he
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took The Road Less travel by and yet
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we continue and it says though as for
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that the passing there had warned them
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really about the same that that is to
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say in terms of whatever coverage that
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there's on if there's grass on the one
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was about the same amount on the other I
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mean whatever evidence you would use to
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say that the one is more or less
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traveled simply you say wait a second
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they're about the same and then he adds
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even
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further and both that morning equally
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lay in leaves no step had trotten black
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now I mean we know from the yellow wood
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that this is an ainal
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scene uh one can easily imagine the
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situation where on an Autumn morning the
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leaves have fallen down uh and as
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happens with moist leaves once people
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have walked on leaves they will turn
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black from the oxidation but this
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particular
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morning the leaves are equally covering
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both roads so aside from the fact that
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he is the first person there there's no
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way that he can tell from either the
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grass which he now we know he cannot see
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because they're both covered by leaves
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uh there is no way that this speaker the
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person in this poem who has to make the
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decision can decide on the basis of use
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which road is more or less traveled by
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uh and he stops at that point having
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told us on the first here's what I'm
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going to do I'm going I look down
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examine this road here I'm going to take
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the other and here's why I did it but as
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it turns out rather than give us
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evidence it becomes equivocation I did
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this and then he equivocates and then he
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equivocates yet again and what we have
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uh at the in the middle of that third
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Stan he says oh I kept the first for
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another day yet knowing how way leads on
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to way I doubt it if I should ever come
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back now uh to to my mind this
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introduces a very different issue in
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this poem what what we have in those
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lines there is someone who's saying well
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I'm taking this particular Road
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here but as he says in the beginning of
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the poem I really want to go both ways I
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wish I could do everything but of course
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each time one makes a decision to go in
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One Direction perforce a door closes
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someplace you can't go in the other
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direction so
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uh he says finally in this last stanza I
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shall be telling this with a side
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somewhere ages and ages hence and this I
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think is a very important shift in this
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poem because up to this point the
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person's talking has been telling us
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about a decision that he's recently made
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uh remember he the the the intense in
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this poem is such that he's speaking at
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a time not too long after he's gone down
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the one road uh he's thinking back about
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the decision that he made at that point
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and then suddenly in the last stanza he
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jumps forward to the future and says I
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shall be telling this with a sigh and of
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course a very interesting thing what
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kind of a sigh is that is that a sigh of
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contentment of nostalgia of regret H uh
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somewhere ages and ages hence and now we
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have the last three lines in some sense
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tells us the whole poem again it's a
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little collapse of the whole poem
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because he picks up the the opening line
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and then jumps to the end but notice
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this slight revision that takes place he
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says two roads diverged in a wood and I
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hesitation I took the One Less Traveled
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by and that made all the
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difference now if if you follow the
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point
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here the evidence that has been
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presented to us in three stanas
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beforehand contradicts that statement
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that is to say the person who is
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speaking who is saying I took the road L
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travel by presumably from the vantage
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point in the future ages and ages hence
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from the vantage point of old age I
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remember back to that crucial decision I
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made in my youth and I made the right
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decision or at least it sounds that way
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when people listen to the poem as I say
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they remember what seems to be that
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ringing affirmation in the last two
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lines I took the one less travel by and
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that's made all the difference he
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doesn't say in this poem whether it's a
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good difference or a bad difference but
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most people want to hear the good
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difference and so they say that's the
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way it must be and so taking The Road
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Less traveled by is a good thing so good
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that it seems to blur people's memories
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of the first three stanzas of the poem
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uh our desire as Americans to want to
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hear that affirmation of non-conformity
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apparently has and this has gone on now
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as I say for uh 70 73 years in which
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people have read the poem and most
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readers come away feeling that this is a
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poem that's affirming non-conformity and
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yet I would suggest something entirely
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different if we look at that at the end
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we have a speaker of the poem who's
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saying uh I took the on less travel by
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telling us that is that in the future I
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will provide um a happy rationalization
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of my
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experience whether the decision was a
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good one or a bad one it's going to look
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good to me way down the road that is to
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say that the speaker is revealing a
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characteristic alas about human nature
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is that given a choice between uh
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thinking well of ourselves or not we
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will think well of ourselves we will
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even if it comes to it bend the facts
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somewhat so that uh uh our understanding
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of ourselves is a positive rather than a
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negative one uh the reason I say that is
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that that is to say that those last two
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lines rather than affirming
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non-conformity might be revealing uh a
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capacity for rationalization or even
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self-deception on the part of people has
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to do with something that strikes me
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that most people have not focused on
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that is the title of this poem this is
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not about the road that the speaker has
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taken the title is the road not taken
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what's on this person's mind at the
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present moment of this poem looking back
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to a decision that he made not too long
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before is a terrible sense of what if I
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have made the wrong decision it's a
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sense of
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equivocation and and even more than that
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it strikes me that one could uh very
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easily uh speak to this issue could it
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be that indecision and equivocation lead
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in a psychological sense inevitably to
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the kind of rationalization that we find
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at the end of this poem is there a cause
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and consequence if looked at carefully
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in this poem which is suggesting
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something about the fallible human
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nature that we have always to try to
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think best of ourselves when in fact
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we're least certain certain of our
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values what what what I find astounding
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about this I mean surely however you
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want to look at the the ending of that
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poem the clear thing that remains is
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that the final two lines are not
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supported by but rather uh denied or
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contradicted by the poem that precedes
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them uh what I'd like to leave you with
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as I since I was trying in this
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particular short time to make uh a point
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about Robert Frost the man
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and Robert Frost's poetry what I'd like
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to leave you with is uh this
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parallel surely uh what we Now
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understand from Robert Frost's
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biographies is that the gentle
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grandfatherly uh New England farmer who
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spoke apparently so affirmatively and in
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such simple language about American
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values had a darker Underside in his
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personal life and that he spent a good
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part of of his public life in some sense
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masking or holding down or at least
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disguising that darker
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Underside as an illustration of that we
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turn to the road not taken surely I said
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one of his most popular poems and I mean
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that in both the best and now in a
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different sense that is to say a poem
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which has been popularly interpreted in
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one fashion but a close reading of the
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poem reveals a darker Underside a darker
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uh uh depth than that most people have
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passed by and in an odd way it might be
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particularly appropriate that the road
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not taken this most popular of poems is
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exactly parallel to Robert Frost this
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most popular of poets all right I'll
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leave you there
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today