CAA 2021 Webinar - High Performance CPR (An Insider's Story)
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TLDRThe CAA 2021 webinar focuses on 'High Performance CPR,' presented by Mike Helbach, emphasizing the need for effective CPR techniques to improve patient survival rates in cardiac arrest scenarios. Key topics include the integration of quality chest compressions, controlled ventilations, and coordinated team efforts. Helbach shares insights on building high-performance CPR teams through continuous education, performance measurement, and innovative training. He discusses essential metrics such as compression depth and rate, and strategies to eliminate unnecessary pauses during resuscitation efforts. The session highlights success stories from Seattle King County, showcasing significant survival rate improvements linked to adopting high performance CPR methods.
Takeaways
- 🏥 **High Performance CPR Significantly Improves Outcomes**: Mastery of CPR techniques enhances survival rates for cardiac arrest patients.
- 📊 **Importance of Metrics**: Measured performance metrics are essential for continuous improvement in CPR quality.
- 🤝 **Team Coordination is Key**: Effective communication and defined roles during resuscitation contribute to success.
- 🦸♂️ **Ownership of Skills**: Empower all responders, from BLS to ALS, to take ownership of their roles in CPR.
- 🔄 **Minimize Pauses**: Unnecessary pauses during CPR can drastically affect patient survival—eliminate them!
- 📅 **Regular Training**: Quarterly CPR training ensures skills remain sharp and effective in high-pressure situations.
- 🎯 **Compression Fraction Matters**: Aim for a compression fraction of at least 90% during CPR.
- 📚 **Use of Performance Tools**: Training with mannequins that provide analytics can greatly enhance learning.
- 👮 **Involve All Stakeholders**: Training should also include police and dispatchers to enhance community response.
- 🔍 **Feedback Loop**: Provide immediate feedback to responders to reinforce learning and skill improvement.
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- 00:00:00 - 00:05:00
The webinar series focuses on high performance CPR, presented by Mike Halbach and supported by Liedel, emphasizing the importance of quality CPR in improving patient outcomes.
- 00:05:00 - 00:10:00
David Waters introduces the webinar, stressing that high performance CPR is characterized by quality chest compressions, controlled ventilations, and effective team coordination during cardiac arrest resuscitation.
- 00:10:00 - 00:15:00
Mike Halbach shares his extensive experience in developing high performance CPR programs, emphasizing education and training for effective resuscitation of cardiac arrest victims.
- 00:15:00 - 00:20:00
Halbach encourages participants to engage with the Resuscitation Academy's resources, including a free e-book on resuscitation techniques.
- 00:20:00 - 00:25:00
He highlights the goal of fostering a culture where caregivers expect improvement in patient outcomes during cardiac arrests, particularly for ventricular fibrillation (VF) and pulseless ventricular tachycardia (PVT).
- 00:25:00 - 00:30:00
Halbach discusses the principles of high performance CPR, defining it as a choreographed, measured event that integrates advanced life support procedures for effective patient care.
- 00:30:00 - 00:35:00
Key survival strategies during cardiac arrest include early, high-quality chest compressions and minimizing interruptions, validated by various international guidelines.
- 00:35:00 - 00:40:00
He explains the concept of compression fraction, stressing the significance of minimizing pauses during CPR to maintain blood flow and improve survival rates.
- 00:40:00 - 00:45:00
Halbach introduces his 'DVD-R' metric system for CPR performance: Depth, Ventilation, Decompression, and Rate, emphasizing the need for rigorous training and measurement against benchmarks.
- 00:45:00 - 00:50:00
He shares successful experiences from Seattle King County CPR training, demonstrating improved survival rates through a cultural shift in emergency response techniques.
- 00:50:00 - 00:57:41
Halbach concludes with reminders on teamwork, continuous performance improvement, and the need for regular training to sustain high performance in CPR execution.
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What is High Performance CPR?
High Performance CPR is a refined, choreographed, and measured CPR process focusing on high-quality chest compressions, effective ventilation, and excellent team coordination to enhance cardiac arrest survival rates.
How often should CPR training occur?
It is recommended to have CPR training at least quarterly to maintain skill proficiency and ensure high performance during cardiac arrest scenarios.
What metrics are essential in evaluating CPR performance?
Key metrics include compression depth, recoil, rate of compressions, ventilation volume, compression fraction, and analysis of pre-shock and post-shock pauses.
How can we eliminate pauses during CPR?
Minimizing unnecessary pauses is crucial. Implement techniques such as 'hovering' during defibrillation and pre-charging monitors while compressions continue.
What training tools are recommended for CPR?
Using training mannequins equipped with performance analytics, like Laerdal's QCPR, helps instructors measure and improve CPR techniques.
Should police and dispatchers participate in CPR training?
Yes, involving police and dispatchers in CPR training enhances community response to cardiac arrests, especially through telephone-assisted CPR.
How do you ensure the success of CPR during patient transport?
Ideally, resuscitations should occur at the scene until return of spontaneous circulation. If transport is necessary, use mechanical compression devices to maintain perfusion.
What is the importance of crew position during CPR?
Pre-arranged crew positions allow for efficient CPR delivery and ensure that each team member knows their role during a resuscitation attempt.
What is the recommended compression fraction for CPR?
Aiming for a compression fraction of 90% or above is ideal for high performance CPR.
How can we improve the culture around cardiac arrest management?
Fostering a culture of measurement and improvement, along with continuous education and feedback, encourages better practices in CPR execution.
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- 00:00:00welcome to the caa 2021 webinar series
- 00:00:05today's webinar is high performance cpr
- 00:00:07and insider's story presented by mike
- 00:00:10halbach and proudly supported by liedel
- 00:00:13thanks for joining us and we hope you
- 00:00:14enjoy hi my name is david waters and i'm
- 00:00:18the chief executive of the council of
- 00:00:19ambulance authorities
- 00:00:21welcome to the latest in our webinar
- 00:00:24series
- 00:00:25today's webinar is titled high
- 00:00:27performance cpr an insider's story
- 00:00:31evidence indicates that high quality cpr
- 00:00:34compressions
- 00:00:35combined with minimal interruptions has
- 00:00:38a significant impact on patient outcomes
- 00:00:41high performance cpr consists of mastery
- 00:00:44level high quality chest compressions
- 00:00:47measured performance matrix including
- 00:00:49rate recoil and depth
- 00:00:51controlled ventilations
- 00:00:53and high compression fractions
- 00:00:56equally important is the integration of
- 00:00:58close coordination and communication
- 00:01:01within the high performance cpr team
- 00:01:04in this webinar we will hear from mike
- 00:01:06helbach as he shares his high
- 00:01:08performance cpr experience and insights
- 00:01:11into how you can create educate and
- 00:01:14train high performance cpr teams
- 00:01:17in the resuscitation of cardiac arrest
- 00:01:19victims
- 00:01:20through the use of performance
- 00:01:22measurement and feedback
- 00:01:24mike's role
- 00:01:25with the seattle king county
- 00:01:27resuscitation academy is as a specialist
- 00:01:30in the development and training of the
- 00:01:32high performance
- 00:01:34cpr program
- 00:01:36mike worked for 25 years as a
- 00:01:38firefighter and senior paramedic for the
- 00:01:41city of bellevue fire department in
- 00:01:43washington
- 00:01:45until his promotion to divisional chief
- 00:01:47of ems training and education
- 00:01:50of the seattle king county ems
- 00:01:52service mike completed paramedic
- 00:01:55training at harbourview medical center
- 00:01:58and university of washington
- 00:02:00in the school of medicine
- 00:02:02graduating with first in class honours
- 00:02:04mike has served as the senior instructor
- 00:02:07for the training and education division
- 00:02:09division of the seattle county ems
- 00:02:12service for more than 25 years
- 00:02:15by way of his highly acclaimed training
- 00:02:17style and diverse training experience he
- 00:02:20has received speaking invitations from
- 00:02:22many of the nation's largest ems
- 00:02:25conferences
- 00:02:26and ems agencies across the united
- 00:02:28states
- 00:02:29canada and abroad including europe and
- 00:02:33here in australia and in new zealand
- 00:02:35mike is one of a handful of nationally
- 00:02:38recognized speakers and has delivered
- 00:02:40the keynote address at numerous ems
- 00:02:42conferences around the globe
- 00:02:44as a national and international speaker
- 00:02:47mike has shared his experiences in
- 00:02:48pre-hospital medicine to more than 250
- 00:02:52000 students over the past 30 years
- 00:02:55mike helbrock shares many of his
- 00:02:57training concepts with other instructors
- 00:02:59across the country and also authors and
- 00:03:01produces his entire curriculum
- 00:03:04he continually evaluates his performance
- 00:03:06as an educator
- 00:03:08and develops new and innovative ways to
- 00:03:10educate students in emergency medicine
- 00:03:13and evaluates how the students apply
- 00:03:14this knowledge
- 00:03:16to field performance please join me in
- 00:03:19welcoming mike helbach
- 00:03:22welcome mike
- 00:03:24hi everyone i'm mike kelbach from
- 00:03:26seattle king county part of the
- 00:03:27resuscitation academy i want to share a
- 00:03:30story with you today called high
- 00:03:31performance cpr an insider story or an
- 00:03:34insider's look i'll share with you the
- 00:03:36development of the program share with
- 00:03:38you our successes and
- 00:03:41help you better understand how you can
- 00:03:43incorporate this program in your
- 00:03:45community
- 00:03:47so a little about me i've spent my
- 00:03:48career in the fire service here in the
- 00:03:50seattle king county system
- 00:03:52after more than 20 plus years i retired
- 00:03:55and moved on to a division chief's
- 00:03:56position with seattle king county medic
- 00:03:58one and i'm current faculty of the
- 00:03:59resuscitation academy in seattle i try
- 00:04:02to stay very busy with other programs
- 00:04:04around the world and frankly everybody
- 00:04:06is a real pleasure to be able to share
- 00:04:08this program with you today
- 00:04:10all right let's get into this i want you
- 00:04:11to do something if you're with me if you
- 00:04:13have a smartphone or a tablet with a
- 00:04:16camera on it go ahead and roll that over
- 00:04:18the qr code on the right side left side
- 00:04:20your screen
- 00:04:22and that'll take you to a website called
- 00:04:23resuscitationacademy.org
- 00:04:26in the resuscitation academy this is the
- 00:04:28team of physicians and senior trainers
- 00:04:30and paramedics
- 00:04:32and dispatchers and police officers that
- 00:04:33helped develop curriculum for ems
- 00:04:36education and survival from cardiac
- 00:04:39arrest
- 00:04:40and on the right hand side is an e-book
- 00:04:42that's within this uh website the
- 00:04:45website itself is free all we ask that
- 00:04:47is that you sign in so we can know who
- 00:04:49you are and where you're from and that
- 00:04:51everything behind that sign-in is free
- 00:04:54this is an incredible ebook on the right
- 00:04:56side of your screen called the art and
- 00:04:57science of resuscitation and i really
- 00:05:00encourage you to take a look at it
- 00:05:01download it and see what it does to help
- 00:05:03you
- 00:05:04okay
- 00:05:05my plan today is to try to encourage
- 00:05:08to help you build a culture that where
- 00:05:10everybody that are in
- 00:05:12vf and pvt survive specifically those
- 00:05:15two but of course all cardiac arrest but
- 00:05:18specifically those two and why
- 00:05:20because these two rhythms are absolutely
- 00:05:23survivable rhythms and i want to
- 00:05:25encourage this culture that when you go
- 00:05:27on the next cardiac arrest that you
- 00:05:28expect a change you expect the patient
- 00:05:32to get better and it's uh i'll work
- 00:05:34today to try to share that culture with
- 00:05:36you and hope that i can inspire you to
- 00:05:38do the same
- 00:05:39so what's going to happen for the next
- 00:05:4130 minutes
- 00:05:42well quite frankly everyone i'm going to
- 00:05:44take you on a journey and a journey is
- 00:05:46going to be from where we know and what
- 00:05:49we know works today what we know really
- 00:05:52works for sure
- 00:05:53i'll certainly then spend time on the
- 00:05:55definition of high performance cpr
- 00:05:57from our point of view i'll share all
- 00:05:59these aspects with you we're definitely
- 00:06:01going to get into some of the science
- 00:06:03that helped guide our way as well as
- 00:06:06we'll discuss the metrics of high
- 00:06:07performance cpr and how you can actually
- 00:06:10identify these and work toward
- 00:06:12perfection in your agency and then
- 00:06:13lastly we'll we'll close with a few
- 00:06:15closing remarks and then i think at that
- 00:06:17point we'll have an open q q a to be
- 00:06:19able to ask some questions so with that
- 00:06:22let's get started
- 00:06:23so the real first question i want to ask
- 00:06:25the audience all of you right now is
- 00:06:27what do we know for sure when it comes
- 00:06:29to survival for cardiac arrest what do
- 00:06:31we know for sure well quite frankly
- 00:06:33everybody the list is pretty short and
- 00:06:36in fact here it is
- 00:06:37what we know for sure
- 00:06:39that helps and makes a difference in
- 00:06:42survival from cardiac arrest is early
- 00:06:45high quality chest compressions and the
- 00:06:47better the quality the better
- 00:06:49and if need be early defibrillation we
- 00:06:51know these two
- 00:06:53absolutely make a difference so as we
- 00:06:55move through this whole process i want
- 00:06:57you to remember these two things in fact
- 00:06:59it's uh it's in fact supported not just
- 00:07:02by the australian resuscitation council
- 00:07:04and new zealand council but as well as
- 00:07:05the 20 20 guidelines
- 00:07:08in the american heart association that
- 00:07:09shares that early or immediate chest
- 00:07:12compressions can double if not even
- 00:07:14triple a victim's chance for survival
- 00:07:16but look at the look at the next part
- 00:07:18high performance cpr coupled with early
- 00:07:20defibrillation
- 00:07:22like in the next in the early three to
- 00:07:24five minutes of a cardiac arrest can
- 00:07:26actually achieve survival rates
- 00:07:28as high as 50 if not even mid 70s and
- 00:07:31frankly everyone this is being done
- 00:07:32around the world
- 00:07:34these the survival rates we've seen in
- 00:07:35the last five to 10 years for those
- 00:07:37agencies that incorporate this high
- 00:07:39performance system of cardiac arrest
- 00:07:42management are seeing incredible
- 00:07:44survival rates using wood stain criteria
- 00:07:48all right so the the question i have for
- 00:07:50the audience now is you you've got to
- 00:07:52ask yourself what is high performance
- 00:07:54cpr how do you define it well as you
- 00:07:57know there's lots of different terms
- 00:07:59that are out there between pit crew and
- 00:08:01high quality and certainly now with high
- 00:08:03performance
- 00:08:04allow me to share with you how we see
- 00:08:06this and let you make your own decision
- 00:08:09on that so what is high performance cpr
- 00:08:11well here's the definition and i know
- 00:08:13you're seeing this on the right side
- 00:08:14you're thinking boy mike that's a lot of
- 00:08:16words in a slide well let's do this
- 00:08:18together
- 00:08:20a highly refined high performance cpr is
- 00:08:22a highly refined choreographed and
- 00:08:24measured cpr event that's built around
- 00:08:27mastery level individual skills
- 00:08:29with fully integrated als procedures
- 00:08:32incorporating current evidence-based
- 00:08:34performance metrics i agree it's a
- 00:08:36mouthful but if you look at each one of
- 00:08:38these pieces individually it makes
- 00:08:40perfect sense
- 00:08:42high performance cpr is not just one
- 00:08:44piece or another it's a complete concept
- 00:08:47it's a culture that allows you to look
- 00:08:50at all aspects of a cardiac arrest
- 00:08:52management and refine it as need be in
- 00:08:54your agency
- 00:08:56so one of the things that a lot of folks
- 00:08:58ask me well mike what's the difference
- 00:09:00between like pit crew and high
- 00:09:01performance and here's what i'll say to
- 00:09:03everybody right now anything that you're
- 00:09:05doing that increases the chances of
- 00:09:08likelihood of survival from cardiac
- 00:09:10arrest i applaud absolutely and
- 00:09:13certainly high performance in my opinion
- 00:09:15is both qualitative and quantitative and
- 00:09:17let me share the qualitative sides early
- 00:09:19which by the way is very similar to like
- 00:09:21pit crew or high quality cpr or things
- 00:09:24that are maybe some of the other
- 00:09:25verbiage out there
- 00:09:26there's no doubt that it's a
- 00:09:28choreographed evolution and we can look
- 00:09:30at these bullet points minimal
- 00:09:31interruptions efficiency and rotation
- 00:09:34called concise communication
- 00:09:36interchangeable positions predefined
- 00:09:38positions the use of a team lead or even
- 00:09:41a checklist those are all qualitative
- 00:09:43qualitative aspects which are absolutely
- 00:09:46in line with other programs you may have
- 00:09:47heard around but here is where i believe
- 00:09:50high performance cpr separates itself
- 00:09:52and i want to really encourage you to
- 00:09:54think about this
- 00:09:55everything about a high performance
- 00:09:57evolution is a measured performance it's
- 00:10:00measured both in training to get there
- 00:10:03and then actual field analytics to
- 00:10:04decide how you did for example high
- 00:10:07compression fractions
- 00:10:09we'll talk about compression fractions
- 00:10:10um in a slide coming up but high
- 00:10:13compression fractions mastery level
- 00:10:15individual skills using a acronym that i
- 00:10:17developed many years ago called dvd-r
- 00:10:19and i'll explain that to you in a few
- 00:10:21slides
- 00:10:23complete integration of skills both
- 00:10:25timed and measured against benchmarks
- 00:10:26within your organization and complete
- 00:10:28scene coordination and rotation again
- 00:10:31timed and measured against benchmarks in
- 00:10:34your in your department
- 00:10:36so the quantitative aspects is what
- 00:10:38really puts this uh in front of other
- 00:10:40programs and we'll break all these down
- 00:10:42for you as we move forward so there's
- 00:10:44two points that i really want to drive
- 00:10:45home today if you write these down or
- 00:10:47remember these and i've done a good job
- 00:10:49here today there's two points that you
- 00:10:51absolutely must do in order to be a high
- 00:10:54performance cpr performer in your
- 00:10:56organization the first one is to learn
- 00:10:58to manage the seconds of a cardiac
- 00:11:00arrest now you're saying seconds mike we
- 00:11:03run our durations in 20 or 25 minutes or
- 00:11:05maybe even 30 minutes i understand that
- 00:11:08that's the duration of an arrest i want
- 00:11:10you to pull back and look at the seconds
- 00:11:13of an arrest
- 00:11:14because seconds matter quite frankly and
- 00:11:16in order to manage the seconds you know
- 00:11:18what it takes it simply takes the
- 00:11:20ability to eliminate
- 00:11:22unnecessary pauses
- 00:11:24i'll look you right in the camera and
- 00:11:25say if you're a field provider even in
- 00:11:27hospital you and i both know that we
- 00:11:29pause for many different reasons some we
- 00:11:32can't fix there are some reasons to
- 00:11:34pause
- 00:11:35and i understand that but there are
- 00:11:37there are numerous reasons why we're
- 00:11:39taking a pause and it's not necessary
- 00:11:42it's completely unnecessary i want you
- 00:11:44to think about that learn to manage the
- 00:11:46seconds and i'll give you a little
- 00:11:47information moving forward to help
- 00:11:49support that the next thing i have i ask
- 00:11:51that you do is to learn to master
- 00:11:53performance through both measurement and
- 00:11:56improvement i want to show you something
- 00:11:57on the bottom of your screen the first
- 00:11:59one is on the left this is a tracing
- 00:12:02from a qcpr manic and a laredo product
- 00:12:04that gives you training analytics at the
- 00:12:07end of a training session gives you all
- 00:12:09of the metrics of high performance cpr
- 00:12:11compression rate ventilation uh volume
- 00:12:14of ventilation uh decompression and so
- 00:12:17on that's on the on your left the right
- 00:12:19side is an actual field tracing from an
- 00:12:22actual cardiac event it's from
- 00:12:24physiocontroller striker and it's called
- 00:12:26code stat these are the post cases or
- 00:12:29the post
- 00:12:30analytics that you get from a real case
- 00:12:32but here's the point i want to make on
- 00:12:33this slide
- 00:12:34you cannot expect a high performing
- 00:12:38system that on the graph on the right
- 00:12:40unless you're actually training with the
- 00:12:42graph on the left you can't expect high
- 00:12:45performance in the field if you never
- 00:12:46train and have training analytics to
- 00:12:48tell us where we've done things right or
- 00:12:51tell you or you've done things wrong so
- 00:12:53i really encourage that
- 00:12:55all right let's talk about the science
- 00:12:57the science is actually something that
- 00:12:58just intrigues me but more importantly i
- 00:13:01want to help you which is what we had to
- 00:13:03do too figure out how to operationalize
- 00:13:06the science today more than any time i
- 00:13:09believe the science is pretty clear
- 00:13:11where we need to go so our job as
- 00:13:13educators providers and leadership is to
- 00:13:16operationalize the science and put it
- 00:13:18into play let me give some examples when
- 00:13:20we first developed the program we had to
- 00:13:22ask all four thousand providers in the
- 00:13:25seattle king county region to open your
- 00:13:27minds and relearn how we're doing
- 00:13:29business and we absolutely needed to
- 00:13:32embrace the meaning and value of measure
- 00:13:35and improve and i'll leave that on the
- 00:13:36screen for you just a few more seconds
- 00:13:39measure and improve and i'll close today
- 00:13:41with a quote we use the same thing
- 00:13:44measure and improve
- 00:13:46okay
- 00:13:47well i hope i'm moving at a speed that
- 00:13:48keeps everybody engaged but i want to
- 00:13:50slow down just a second so we can drill
- 00:13:52into something very important a term as
- 00:13:55well as a concept and it's called
- 00:13:56compression fraction now you may have
- 00:13:58heard this term before whether it's you
- 00:14:00maybe it's called flow time or you've
- 00:14:02heard compression density and they're
- 00:14:04all sort of terms that mean the same but
- 00:14:06let me explain it compression fraction
- 00:14:08by definition anyway is the measurement
- 00:14:11of compressions in proportion to the
- 00:14:13overall cpr event okay so i'll share
- 00:14:16with you in our community we look toward
- 00:14:18a compression fraction of at least 90
- 00:14:21percent with a 32 compression
- 00:14:23ventilation ratio and 95 compression
- 00:14:26fraction if they move towards a
- 00:14:28continuous compression scenario either
- 00:14:30with an advanced stairway or manual
- 00:14:32defibrillation so let's break this down
- 00:14:35let's show you how do you achieve 90
- 00:14:38now some of you may have already said
- 00:14:39mike we we do this in our organization
- 00:14:42we're already there i applaud you for
- 00:14:44that thank you for that hard work some
- 00:14:46of you also are saying mike we've also
- 00:14:48been tired tested on this and we're not
- 00:14:51there yet well that just means we've got
- 00:14:52work to do but again i applaud you but i
- 00:14:55think there's a third group out there i
- 00:14:57think there's a group out there so mike
- 00:14:58i have no idea what our compression
- 00:15:00fraction is i we don't measure it i
- 00:15:02don't know how to get it
- 00:15:04i've never heard about it
- 00:15:06you're the group i want to talk about
- 00:15:07let me give an example of how you would
- 00:15:09achieve a 90 compression fraction in a
- 00:15:11given period of time in this case just a
- 00:15:13two minute run in other words rotate
- 00:15:15every two minutes how do we achieve 90
- 00:15:17percent compression fraction in two
- 00:15:19minutes here's how you've got to do 108
- 00:15:22seconds of compressions you can only
- 00:15:24pause for a total of 12 seconds within
- 00:15:27that two minutes again some of you are
- 00:15:29saying piece of cake we do this all the
- 00:15:31time and i again applaud you others are
- 00:15:34saying mike we use an aed and we haven't
- 00:15:36talked about this we've never known
- 00:15:37about compression fraction and quite
- 00:15:39frankly i'll tell you that your numbers
- 00:15:41are probably much less than this it's a
- 00:15:43benchmark and i really want to entice
- 00:15:46you to look into this okay
- 00:15:49so the next question that certainly that
- 00:15:51most of you must ask is
- 00:15:53because compression fraction really is
- 00:15:54just about pauses right so the question
- 00:15:57is is a few pauses here and there really
- 00:15:59make a big difference well specifically
- 00:16:01i think you should be able to say a
- 00:16:03pause is just a pause right how long do
- 00:16:05you think it takes to get a pause back
- 00:16:08well here's a hint everybody
- 00:16:10a two or three or four second pause how
- 00:16:12long does it take to get it back it's
- 00:16:13longer than you think here's why
- 00:16:16if you look at this graph
- 00:16:18on the x-axis it's time you can see this
- 00:16:20it's in seconds in time the y-axis of
- 00:16:22course is uh pressure that is um
- 00:16:26performed while you have chest
- 00:16:27compressions the blue
- 00:16:29are right atrial pressure that goes up
- 00:16:32during compression which is cpr systole
- 00:16:34and then falls back down to the baseline
- 00:16:37during cpr diastole the yellow line is
- 00:16:40aortic pressure you can see that it
- 00:16:42gradually builds but it doesn't fall
- 00:16:43quite as far or as fast as right atrial
- 00:16:46pressure during decompression but here's
- 00:16:49what i want you to see
- 00:16:50it takes about 16 seconds to get in 30
- 00:16:53compressions and if you're during 30 to
- 00:16:552 at the end of that 16 seconds you
- 00:16:57pause to do a ventilation
- 00:17:00and right here look what happens when
- 00:17:02you pause
- 00:17:03everything goes back to zero
- 00:17:05right atrial pressure plummets to zero
- 00:17:07right away followed slowly by aortic
- 00:17:09pressure but eventually it all goes back
- 00:17:11to zero so here everybody is what i want
- 00:17:13you to remember a three to four second
- 00:17:16pause is not benign and in fact a three
- 00:17:19to four second pause is about a 20
- 00:17:21second pause and quality perfusion and
- 00:17:24in fact there are some studies that
- 00:17:25suggest these three to four second
- 00:17:27pauses happen and sometimes we can get
- 00:17:30away with that but the real egregious
- 00:17:32pause are these longer pauses 15 20
- 00:17:35seconds 25 seconds and you and i both
- 00:17:37know if you're a practitioner you've
- 00:17:39been a part of those in your career as
- 00:17:41well
- 00:17:42so the bottom line pauses count and your
- 00:17:45performance counts everything you do
- 00:17:48when you bring your hand near the chest
- 00:17:49of that patient
- 00:17:51counts and that's really where i'm
- 00:17:53trying to go with all this so some of
- 00:17:55you may ask how do you know this i mean
- 00:17:57where do you get this information well
- 00:17:59in our region certainly there is a
- 00:18:00worldwide science on this but in our
- 00:18:02region we track every quantitative
- 00:18:05aspect of a resuscitation
- 00:18:07get this to include audio yes we listen
- 00:18:10to every single word that's said on a
- 00:18:12cardiac arrest some of you may be
- 00:18:14eyebrow raising right now we listen to
- 00:18:16every single word why is because
- 00:18:19sometimes it helps explain things that
- 00:18:21when when we read get on the readout
- 00:18:23doesn't make sense like a long pause or
- 00:18:25something and we can hear them say we're
- 00:18:27moving the patient from between the
- 00:18:29toilet and the bathtub out into the
- 00:18:31living room to do a
- 00:18:33better arrest so it helps us understand
- 00:18:35the entirety of the call
- 00:18:38but in fact you know what i thought i'd
- 00:18:39do i'm going to take you on a little
- 00:18:41trip and i'm going to take you into what
- 00:18:42we call our tape room and the tape room
- 00:18:45is where we acquire all of these data it
- 00:18:47comes in as a chip now not a tape
- 00:18:49anymore but we listen to every case
- 00:18:51where we'll then review it for
- 00:18:53compliance and for quality we'll
- 00:18:55annotate it as need be to give direction
- 00:18:58and then we loop it back to the very
- 00:19:00providers we're on that call so they can
- 00:19:02understand how they did here is an
- 00:19:04actual case and i thought i'd let you
- 00:19:06see and hear what we go through
- 00:19:0968 male found by wife unconscious and
- 00:19:11pulseless with agonal breathing
- 00:19:13classic cardiac arrest initial response
- 00:19:16paramedics in route but the emts got
- 00:19:18there first using a life pack in aed
- 00:19:20mode everybody
- 00:19:22listen and watch here's the case
- 00:19:29class connected
- 00:19:31gonna analyze the rhythm the green are
- 00:19:33the actions
- 00:19:36the black is the underlying rhythm of
- 00:19:38the patient
- 00:19:41[Applause]
- 00:19:43[Music]
- 00:19:48[Applause]
- 00:20:03[Applause]
- 00:20:05very seconds
- 00:20:08[Music]
- 00:20:10[Applause]
- 00:20:20[Music]
- 00:20:27[Music]
- 00:20:30so the leading t or the paramedic to get
- 00:20:32unseen will actually speak openly into
- 00:20:34the
- 00:20:35defibrillator or aed sharing their
- 00:20:38updates letting them either the
- 00:20:39physician or the physician designee
- 00:20:42whoever reviews this tape like we're
- 00:20:43doing right now understand exactly
- 00:20:45what's going on so it helps us really
- 00:20:47get a complete picture of the evolution
- 00:20:49of the cardiac arrest all right so you
- 00:20:52can see some of the bullet points i want
- 00:20:53to continue to move on so we we make
- 00:20:55sure we're getting our our class here
- 00:20:58and get my computer moving on the right
- 00:21:00place
- 00:21:01i want to share with you that one of the
- 00:21:02first years that we put together
- 00:21:06high performance cpr
- 00:21:08we had an immediate increase in survival
- 00:21:10by 13
- 00:21:12and i'll say that by not adding any new
- 00:21:14equipment
- 00:21:15no additional personnel and no new drugs
- 00:21:18all we did was change the culture of how
- 00:21:20we performed resuscitation now those 13
- 00:21:23percent we were using woodstein criteria
- 00:21:25which i'm sure you're aware shockable
- 00:21:27rhythm witness shockable rhythm okay
- 00:21:29within the next two to three years
- 00:21:33we actually increased our survival to
- 00:21:35well over fifty percent in fact the
- 00:21:37highest we had was sixty-two percent
- 00:21:39using wisdom criteria again for vf pvt
- 00:21:42patients or shockable patients in the
- 00:21:44seattle king county region
- 00:21:46so i want to recommend as we move
- 00:21:48forward continue to move towards a
- 00:21:51high performance response to cardiac
- 00:21:53arrest in your system
- 00:21:55and i'm going to share with you some of
- 00:21:56those key points as we do as we do this
- 00:21:58over the next few minutes
- 00:22:00the one thing you're going to lean need
- 00:22:01to learn to do is to eliminate those
- 00:22:03unnecessary positives as i shared with
- 00:22:05you already you've got to eliminate any
- 00:22:07pause that shouldn't be part of the
- 00:22:09evolution you've got to get rid of it
- 00:22:11and quite frankly you can once you
- 00:22:14actually go into a cardiac arrest when
- 00:22:16you start to watch and and educate and
- 00:22:18train you're going to see complete
- 00:22:20pauses in there that don't need to be
- 00:22:22part of the resuscitation eliminate them
- 00:22:24get rid of them i'll give you a really
- 00:22:27good example of what the first thing we
- 00:22:28did of eliminating pauses if you can
- 00:22:31remember many years ago we you may have
- 00:22:34heard something called i'm clear you're
- 00:22:35clear everybody's clear just before
- 00:22:37defibrillatory shock was offered and we
- 00:22:39all pulled back and pulled our arms back
- 00:22:41we got away from the patient we offered
- 00:22:43the shock and then we scooted back up
- 00:22:45and got going that was a five to seven
- 00:22:47second pause in our system so we
- 00:22:49eliminated it and came up with this idea
- 00:22:52of hover hover is putting your hands
- 00:22:54directly over the chest two to three
- 00:22:56inches right off the top we clear the
- 00:22:58patient everybody hover shock get back
- 00:23:00on the chest that saved us five to seven
- 00:23:03seconds every single time we offer
- 00:23:06defibrillatory shock that's one example
- 00:23:08here's another example our paramedics
- 00:23:11many many years ago
- 00:23:12whether would they come in with the emts
- 00:23:14with an aed put on them put on their
- 00:23:16manual defibrillator in this case it's a
- 00:23:18lifepak 15 but whatever device you use
- 00:23:21and they put the paddles on it's in
- 00:23:23manual mode and they'd say stop cpr take
- 00:23:25a look at the rhythm and if it was a
- 00:23:27shockable rhythm they would say let's
- 00:23:29charge they would charge it up
- 00:23:30and at that point they'd say clear and
- 00:23:32away they went now if you're a new medic
- 00:23:35you're going what what do you mean they
- 00:23:37were they were pausing during that the
- 00:23:38answer is yes
- 00:23:40many years ago we we didn't appreciate
- 00:23:43this this idea of compression fraction
- 00:23:45or certainly a pre-shock pause
- 00:23:49so we we just would watch him do it well
- 00:23:51now we identified about 15 years ago
- 00:23:54something called pre-charge
- 00:23:56during the compressions in the last 15
- 00:23:58seconds of the evolution or what i call
- 00:24:00a buck 45 the paramedic will reach over
- 00:24:03charge the device with compressions
- 00:24:04ongoing read it decide and go ahead and
- 00:24:08pause rotate decide if it's shockable
- 00:24:10shock it and if it's not any button dump
- 00:24:12the charge i thought i'd share a video
- 00:24:14for you it's right here
- 00:24:16compulsory cpr 15 seconds left in the
- 00:24:19cycle compressions ongoing
- 00:24:22pre-charge the device compressions
- 00:24:25[Music]
- 00:24:27five
- 00:24:28four
- 00:24:29three
- 00:24:30two
- 00:24:31one
- 00:24:32two minutes rotate next compression
- 00:24:34hover
- 00:24:35quick look it looks like yep
- 00:24:38shockable back on the chest
- 00:24:41that was a game changer for us as far as
- 00:24:44increasing compression fraction and the
- 00:24:46elimination of that pre-shock pause i
- 00:24:49want you to really think about this
- 00:24:51certainly i've read your guidelines uh
- 00:24:53in your region and it absolutely
- 00:24:55suggests this pre-shock pause early and
- 00:24:58i applaud that good for you all right
- 00:24:59let's keep going i want you to continue
- 00:25:01to work toward building mastery level
- 00:25:03individual skills coupled with a
- 00:25:06complete team approach i share when i do
- 00:25:08this class that everyone who comes near
- 00:25:11this patient in cardiac arrest brings
- 00:25:13value to the cow they bring value so
- 00:25:16integrate all these different skills
- 00:25:18there are different levels of education
- 00:25:19and performance integrate these skills
- 00:25:22in one of the things we did early was to
- 00:25:24identify that all the initial providers
- 00:25:27in this case bls providers they own the
- 00:25:30compression and the ventilation portion
- 00:25:32of high performance because in the old
- 00:25:34days when we before we developed this
- 00:25:36when the paramedics would walk in the
- 00:25:38emts would stop and ask them what would
- 00:25:40you like us to do well get back on the
- 00:25:42chest and start compressions we
- 00:25:44understood that what we did what we were
- 00:25:46doing was we weren't given the value to
- 00:25:48those emts so we gave the ownership of
- 00:25:51compression and ventilation to the emts
- 00:25:54that is their run and i will say with
- 00:25:57all respect
- 00:25:58uh my colleagues from ambulance victoria
- 00:26:00came up with this one i'm giving you all
- 00:26:02the credit you stole this at a recess
- 00:26:04station academy i heard if the emts and
- 00:26:06the bls if they own compressions als own
- 00:26:10rosk i'm giving you all the credit right
- 00:26:12there i love that idea certainly on the
- 00:26:15als would be paramedics or nurses or
- 00:26:17maybe rts or even physicians
- 00:26:19let those initial providers run the
- 00:26:22compression and the ventilation piece
- 00:26:24you own you own the rosk or advanced
- 00:26:26technology or advanced airway
- 00:26:28intervention or whatever else that may
- 00:26:30be but it's a it's a team approach
- 00:26:34all skills
- 00:26:35are dug
- 00:26:36during compressions
- 00:26:39eight nine bag
- 00:26:42okay
- 00:26:43eight nine bags
- 00:26:46two is past the cords
- 00:26:48eight nine bag
- 00:26:51okay
- 00:26:52perfect i think that point's been made
- 00:26:53all right the next thing i really want
- 00:26:55to recommend
- 00:26:56to your organization is you need to
- 00:26:58identify what those metrics are and i'm
- 00:26:59going to share with you in just a minute
- 00:27:01and then one of the things that really
- 00:27:03helped us was to pre-arrange and
- 00:27:05pre-identify crew positions and i'll
- 00:27:08give you that hint in just a moment
- 00:27:10but from there once you are once you've
- 00:27:12identified metrics and crew positions
- 00:27:14and pre-arranged positioning then you
- 00:27:17train you measure and you repeat that's
- 00:27:20going to be the key
- 00:27:21so for example the metrics i'll share
- 00:27:23with you as i did earlier this dvd-r
- 00:27:26acronym it worked perfectly remember
- 00:27:28when we developed this almost more than
- 00:27:3015 years ago we had to convince 4 000
- 00:27:33providers that we needed to do something
- 00:27:36different so i remember talking to my
- 00:27:38colleagues from seattle my three
- 00:27:40colleagues from seattle fire we need to
- 00:27:42make this simple enough where they can
- 00:27:43remember it at two o'clock in the
- 00:27:45morning
- 00:27:46here's what we came up with dvd-r d the
- 00:27:49first one stands for depth of
- 00:27:50compression and as you know for all this
- 00:27:53uh statewide it's two to two point four
- 00:27:55and for all you in the metric system
- 00:27:57it's fifty to sixty or five and six
- 00:27:59depends on which one you wanna use the
- 00:28:01next one is v or ventilation controlled
- 00:28:04ventilation somewhere between 350 to 500
- 00:28:07mils is all you need to achieve initial
- 00:28:09chest rise and most size most adult
- 00:28:13in cardiac arrest so controlled
- 00:28:15ventilation why we've been over
- 00:28:17ventilating and hyperventilating for
- 00:28:19decades everybody we need to pull back
- 00:28:21from that the next d is decompression or
- 00:28:24full recoil it's not a request anymore
- 00:28:27it's a requirement in our organization
- 00:28:29complete chest recoil okay and the last
- 00:28:32one is rate rate of compression
- 00:28:35and i'm going to say something i i
- 00:28:36wonder if you're the just like we are in
- 00:28:38our region of the united states
- 00:28:40we're not as good as we think we are
- 00:28:42having that whatever music or whatever
- 00:28:45metronome in your head is one thing but
- 00:28:47to have a real metronome is another and
- 00:28:49i'll give an example in just a second
- 00:28:50and the last part of high performance is
- 00:28:52high compression fractions now certainly
- 00:28:54greater than 80 as recommended by most
- 00:28:57agencies is fine but i think we should
- 00:28:59push the bar even higher i would like to
- 00:29:01see that a minimum of 90 if 30 to 2 and
- 00:29:0495
- 00:29:05if you're in continuous but let's talk
- 00:29:07about rate again remember you're not as
- 00:29:09good as you think you are so i recommend
- 00:29:17a metronome every single cardiac arrest
- 00:29:20scenario use a metronome take away the
- 00:29:23variable and you can get that a number
- 00:29:25of different ways you can get a
- 00:29:26metronome either on a smartphone or you
- 00:29:28can use the one that's on your machine
- 00:29:30which doesn't change very uh you can't
- 00:29:33change it but it's usually set around
- 00:29:34100 but whatever you might use
- 00:29:37use a metronome all right
- 00:29:38as i said before identify crew positions
- 00:29:41and in fact we we wanted to drill down
- 00:29:43far enough to actually get crew
- 00:29:45positions where they knew where to go
- 00:29:47one of this is called the cpr triangle
- 00:29:49watch this
- 00:29:51every position coming with a piece of
- 00:29:53equipment
- 00:29:54is pre-arranged so they all knew where
- 00:29:56they were already going to go by doing
- 00:29:59this additional personnel coming to the
- 00:30:01scene know exactly where they can go to
- 00:30:04the bottom left of your screen has an
- 00:30:05open spot bottom right has an open spot
- 00:30:08so if you if you practice this way you
- 00:30:10already know how you can insert yourself
- 00:30:13into this case
- 00:30:14the next one is body position go back to
- 00:30:17where you have trained yourself and look
- 00:30:19for every single thing that makes your
- 00:30:22performance perfect not good enough
- 00:30:25perfect so we shot videos to support
- 00:30:27perform chest compressions position the
- 00:30:29hands in the center of the chest
- 00:30:32lock elbows
- 00:30:34and keep arms straight over the patient
- 00:30:36in a perpendicular line
- 00:30:39compress to a minimum depth of at least
- 00:30:412 inches but no more than 2.4 inches to
- 00:30:45avoid excessive compression depth allow
- 00:30:47full chest recoil to promote blood
- 00:30:49return to the heart and circulation to
- 00:30:52the lungs use a fulcrum motion to
- 00:30:55leverage weight
- 00:30:58compress at a rate of 100 to 120
- 00:31:01compressions per minute
- 00:31:04perfect
- 00:31:05perfect training perfect compressions
- 00:31:08not good enough and the only way to get
- 00:31:10there in a real life is to practice the
- 00:31:12same way and get analytics to support
- 00:31:14that the next thing we looked at with
- 00:31:16high performance is that we're over
- 00:31:17ventilating i shared that with you so we
- 00:31:19developed something called the three
- 00:31:21finger technique pulling that pinky
- 00:31:23finger off the bag takes away your crush
- 00:31:26factor and we talked to a number of
- 00:31:28orthopedic surgeons about this and
- 00:31:29believe it or not it works but whatever
- 00:31:32it takes to make sure we're not over
- 00:31:34ventilating i support the seattle
- 00:31:37program for example dropped to a 700cc
- 00:31:39bag i'm not saying that's what everybody
- 00:31:41should do but here's where i want to go
- 00:31:43this is a training issue so make over
- 00:31:46ventilation an issue and then develop
- 00:31:49training to keep your team in check
- 00:31:51here's a quick video of the three finger
- 00:31:53technique
- 00:31:54or as my colleagues in england or the uk
- 00:31:58call it they call it the queen or the
- 00:32:00pinky out finger the pink the queen's
- 00:32:02technique
- 00:32:04i just love how i can get a 300 pound
- 00:32:06truckman from seattle with his pinky out
- 00:32:08that was one of my favorite videos that
- 00:32:10we produced all right here we go
- 00:32:13the last thing i want everyone to
- 00:32:14understand as we start to get toward the
- 00:32:16end of this is that high performance cpr
- 00:32:18is a true true team event so what we did
- 00:32:21was we asked a team from the local
- 00:32:23seattle area two different agencies to
- 00:32:25work together come into a room we're
- 00:32:27going to put a camera on you we're going
- 00:32:29to put an instrumented mannequin and
- 00:32:30we're going to watch your performance
- 00:32:32using analytics
- 00:32:34and they all said fine everybody i want
- 00:32:36to show you their evolution
- 00:32:38this is a team from north shore fire in
- 00:32:40shoreline fire washington running a high
- 00:32:42performance evolution with five
- 00:32:44providers the folks in white are
- 00:32:46paramedics that's what we wear in the
- 00:32:48seattle king county system the folks in
- 00:32:50blue are bls emts here we go
- 00:32:54as additional ems personnel become
- 00:32:55available it's important to note that
- 00:32:57complete integration as a team is a
- 00:33:00hallmark of high performance or hp cpr
- 00:33:04hp cpr is defined as an expertly
- 00:33:06performed choreographed out of hospital
- 00:33:09cardiac arrest response
- 00:33:11consisting of highly skilled and
- 00:33:13measured individual and team performance
- 00:33:16here are a few things to remember
- 00:33:18the bls crew owns the cbr portion of the
- 00:33:21cardiac arrest scenario and all advanced
- 00:33:24life support or als providers must be
- 00:33:27proficient in performing als skills
- 00:33:29without interrupting hp cpr
- 00:33:32do not interrupt hp cpr during the
- 00:33:35administration of als procedures
- 00:33:38rotate the compressor during the
- 00:33:40analysis of the cardiac rhythm
- 00:33:42the als monitor should be pre-charged
- 00:33:45during the last 15 seconds of the cycle
- 00:33:48the timekeeper maintains a written
- 00:33:50record of the event crew rotations and
- 00:33:52overall team choreography
- 00:33:55hallmarks of hp cpr include fully
- 00:33:58integrated choreographed and expertly
- 00:34:01performed resuscitation
- 00:34:03minimal pauses
- 00:34:05compression depth of 2 to 2.4 inches or
- 00:34:0950 to 60 millimeters
- 00:34:11complete recoil and controlled
- 00:34:13ventilation of 350
- 00:34:16to 500 milliliters per breath
- 00:34:21excellent that was a one take evolution
- 00:34:23for them as well and then the analytics
- 00:34:25we reviewed with them
- 00:34:27and it was an awesome job so what i want
- 00:34:29to share when we start to close is
- 00:34:30whether you're pre-hospital on the left
- 00:34:32or in hospital on the right even though
- 00:34:34our environments are completely
- 00:34:35different as you and i both know
- 00:34:37the metrics for high performance are
- 00:34:39exactly the same they're exactly the
- 00:34:41same you just need to incorporate them
- 00:34:43into your environment
- 00:34:45work hard everybody to continue to build
- 00:34:47the program
- 00:34:48around a culture of excellence and high
- 00:34:50performance evolution
- 00:34:52in closing i want to share with you this
- 00:34:54increasing survival from cardiac or
- 00:34:56arrest takes work it's not easy
- 00:34:59but it's not complicated it takes work
- 00:35:02it's not easy but it's not complicated
- 00:35:05don't underestimate the value and
- 00:35:06culture of measure and improve
- 00:35:10identify strengths and gaps during
- 00:35:12training which will help you develop a
- 00:35:14plan to validate and remediate
- 00:35:17develop mastery level individual skills
- 00:35:20ideally through instrumented mannequins
- 00:35:22giving the feedback
- 00:35:23as well as the actual case events
- 00:35:26and get the team involved in this and
- 00:35:28then send those data back to those
- 00:35:30people that are performing the task the
- 00:35:32last one a piece of equipment everybody
- 00:35:34is just a tool
- 00:35:35performance is what counts
- 00:35:38a piece of equipment's just a tool don't
- 00:35:40allow a piece of equipment to run your
- 00:35:42cardiac arrest evolution
- 00:35:44remember if you're not measuring
- 00:35:47you're not improving we have to know how
- 00:35:49we're doing in order to know where we're
- 00:35:51going to go
- 00:35:52one of my favorite quotes from a great
- 00:35:53colleague in seattle dr mickey eisenberg
- 00:35:55where life is measured in years but
- 00:35:57resuscitation in seconds or even minutes
- 00:36:01life is finite where death is eternal
- 00:36:03and between those two points everybody
- 00:36:06we only have about 10 minutes and i'll
- 00:36:08share with you that those 10 minutes are
- 00:36:09yours what you do with those i hope is a
- 00:36:12high performance evolution
- 00:36:14thank you for everything you do what i'm
- 00:36:16hoping now is we have a lively q a
- 00:36:18session and i'm looking forward to
- 00:36:20speaking with you take care everybody
- 00:36:24hi mike
- 00:36:26that was really fun
- 00:36:30wonderful um thank you so much mike and
- 00:36:32welcome to everyone i am not david as
- 00:36:35you can tell
- 00:36:36so david is stuck in uh wellington in a
- 00:36:39bit of a storm so he's in internet is
- 00:36:42not the best so i stepped in i'm muay
- 00:36:44thai busy mickey i'm the general manager
- 00:36:46for caa and i'm very honored to be
- 00:36:49interviewing you mike today for this q a
- 00:36:52panel uh thank you so much first off for
- 00:36:54a wonderful presentation i have to say i
- 00:36:57can't get enough of uh hearing about uh
- 00:37:01high performance cpr and just sort of
- 00:37:04all the incredible
- 00:37:05little nuances that king county and
- 00:37:08seattle and then across the world people
- 00:37:11are coming up with just to
- 00:37:13to to do an extra little second to just
- 00:37:16really fine-tune it and it's incredible
- 00:37:19to see like you've shared with us today
- 00:37:21on how it makes a massive difference and
- 00:37:24you know i i think we all agree and you
- 00:37:27know the 10 minutes go so so fast and
- 00:37:30sadly we're not even there for the first
- 00:37:32few of them so what we do with when we
- 00:37:34get on site is just absolutely critical
- 00:37:37so thank you so much for that i'm gonna
- 00:37:40open it up for questions here but one
- 00:37:43from me just really quickly use you talk
- 00:37:45about training training training and nes
- 00:37:48measurement what would you suggest for
- 00:37:51an ambulance service but also for all
- 00:37:54our ems colleagues um
- 00:37:56you know
- 00:37:58how often to train
- 00:38:00sure well that's a great question right
- 00:38:02if as educators we would say the answer
- 00:38:04should be all the time right but the
- 00:38:06reality is that can't happen
- 00:38:09so um
- 00:38:10what uh in the seattle king county
- 00:38:12region
- 00:38:14it is a requirement to have a quarterly
- 00:38:17evolution training so all the teams come
- 00:38:20together and at least once a quarter
- 00:38:23for a full evolution which is a measured
- 00:38:25evolution multi-team evolution which is
- 00:38:29either four or five
- 00:38:31those are then reviewed by an evaluator
- 00:38:34for compliance
- 00:38:36and then you're recorded in a record
- 00:38:38recording that says you have it at least
- 00:38:40once a quarter
- 00:38:42so to me that's the minimum
- 00:38:44now for some agencies may go gosh mike
- 00:38:46we only do it like once a year so once a
- 00:38:49quarter may be a lot for us that's a
- 00:38:51minimum and in fact
- 00:38:53many agencies on their own
- 00:38:56will actually do it maybe they'll run a
- 00:38:5910-minute evolution at the beginning of
- 00:39:01every set that they're on for example if
- 00:39:05they're on a three-day set they'll do it
- 00:39:07at the first part of their the first
- 00:39:09shift of their three-day
- 00:39:11so every every organization is a little
- 00:39:13different in seattle king county there
- 00:39:15are some that are like us that want to
- 00:39:17train all the time
- 00:39:19but at a minimum we are we train
- 00:39:21quarterly on a complete high performance
- 00:39:24evolution i think that's a wonderful
- 00:39:27standard to try and aim for
- 00:39:30it can be hard i'm hoping our services
- 00:39:32listening here are going well we might
- 00:39:34have to uh you know look look at that
- 00:39:37and
- 00:39:37you know we're all aware obviously time
- 00:39:39is definitely uh the factory but trying
- 00:39:42to aim towards that would be absolutely
- 00:39:44wonderful i will say this before you go
- 00:39:46on um because there are still some
- 00:39:47agencies that think that we can remember
- 00:39:49this like if we do it once every two
- 00:39:51years
- 00:39:52the old certification time frame right
- 00:39:54well i got certified in an acls two
- 00:39:56years ago i will share with you there's
- 00:39:59absolutely no way you will maintain a
- 00:40:01high level performance if you do it once
- 00:40:03every two years even once a year and i
- 00:40:06um and i've shared that by being in the
- 00:40:08system for more than 40 years just doing
- 00:40:10this over and over and over again so
- 00:40:13i'll share that as much as they can but
- 00:40:15there should at least be
- 00:40:17a minimum standard because we lose skill
- 00:40:19quickly right that time has already been
- 00:40:21identified in many studies within 30 or
- 00:40:2445 days or so we're already starting to
- 00:40:26lose skill so we want to keep that
- 00:40:28yep and i guess it's very different when
- 00:40:30you're talking high performance cpr and
- 00:40:32you're talking you know
- 00:40:34i guess not the alternative not high
- 00:40:37performance cpr those skills will very
- 00:40:40much vary and yes for you know cpr from
- 00:40:43a public member or whatnot as long as
- 00:40:45they know what they're doing they help
- 00:40:48massively but when we come on scene when
- 00:40:50ems or or ambulance uh comes on scene
- 00:40:54you want that absolutely spot on so
- 00:40:57big big difference that's exactly right
- 00:40:59public access we're happy uh you know
- 00:41:02chest compressions only is really the
- 00:41:04the standard now right just get on the
- 00:41:06chest and do it but you're right when
- 00:41:08when a professional team arrives we
- 00:41:10should have high expectations of
- 00:41:12performance
- 00:41:13yeah so thanks for having me and i guess
- 00:41:15that's what uh the public expects of us
- 00:41:17as well anyway yeah sure they they do
- 00:41:19they do you're right yeah wonderful a
- 00:41:22few questions from the audience
- 00:41:24what are your thoughts on head first cpr
- 00:41:27so cruz doing compressions from the head
- 00:41:30versus yeah right that's interesting i'm
- 00:41:33seeing this as well for the first time
- 00:41:35um i frankly um have never really seen
- 00:41:38nor done sort of head first i thought
- 00:41:40the question was going to be about heads
- 00:41:42up cpr
- 00:41:44sort of this new idea and study that's
- 00:41:45going on but they're they're literally
- 00:41:47talking about going toward the head and
- 00:41:49doing over the top of the head down well
- 00:41:51my question would be
- 00:41:52i'm assuming that
- 00:41:54then the ventilator is positioned off to
- 00:41:57the side is this a single ventilator or
- 00:42:01do you require a two person ventilator
- 00:42:04if you're
- 00:42:05prior to an advanced airway as you know
- 00:42:07the heart association recommends a two
- 00:42:11person
- 00:42:12ventilation technique using a bag valve
- 00:42:14mask
- 00:42:15the reality is let's be honest
- 00:42:18not everybody has that much personnel to
- 00:42:20often do that
- 00:42:21so my experience is i have no experience
- 00:42:24with this
- 00:42:25so i can't i would love to see it if
- 00:42:28this person would love to follow up with
- 00:42:29me if they've got some videos send it my
- 00:42:31way i i don't want this to be a a
- 00:42:34one-time shot for us i want to stay
- 00:42:36connected so with that particular
- 00:42:38scenario we definitely do it exactly how
- 00:42:40i showed in the video
- 00:42:42which is a single person at the head
- 00:42:44remember that triangle everybody that i
- 00:42:46showed that triangle is what allows
- 00:42:48additional personnel coming into the
- 00:42:50scene to know where they can go before
- 00:42:53they ever get there as soon as they come
- 00:42:55in they can see that opportunity and the
- 00:42:57top of the triangle the apex of course
- 00:43:00is the ventilator so we do compressions
- 00:43:02currently from the side so that's an
- 00:43:04interesting question have that person
- 00:43:06follow up with me please good question
- 00:43:08and obviously it's uh you know around
- 00:43:11the world mechanical compression yes
- 00:43:13where are your thoughts on that one uh
- 00:43:16there's in australia in new zealand we
- 00:43:19are this is being definitely rolled down
- 00:43:22certainly that's a two-part question i'm
- 00:43:24seeing the same one that you're seeing
- 00:43:25and that is should we prioritize using a
- 00:43:28lucas or a compression device
- 00:43:31as opposed to should we use one at all
- 00:43:33so first i'll answer because everybody
- 00:43:35asks us here in the seattle king county
- 00:43:37do we use them
- 00:43:39as a primary method by which to do chest
- 00:43:41compressions and the answer is no we do
- 00:43:44not
- 00:43:45now there's a number of reasons for that
- 00:43:47it's not just black and white by the way
- 00:43:50we have the ability to put a lot of
- 00:43:52personnel at location on a cardiac
- 00:43:55arrest and in fact you know that there
- 00:43:57are studies that support at a certain
- 00:43:59number of personnel any wing i think
- 00:44:01it's six or seven at scene there is a
- 00:44:03connection with an increase in survival
- 00:44:05a lot of that's simply because of
- 00:44:06personnel
- 00:44:08but
- 00:44:09to
- 00:44:10the other side of that
- 00:44:11is
- 00:44:12i believe that there is an opportunity
- 00:44:14for a
- 00:44:16an assist device like a chest
- 00:44:17compression assist device for those
- 00:44:20agencies that either don't have a lot of
- 00:44:22personnel at the scene have long
- 00:44:24either required transport times or for
- 00:44:27example aero rotor helicopter services
- 00:44:30if they if they re-arrest in a
- 00:44:32helicopter doing cpr is extremely
- 00:44:34difficult so our recommendation is we
- 00:44:37don't use this as a primary tool and in
- 00:44:40fact the current aha guidelines i'm sure
- 00:44:42that um or or at least
- 00:44:44the
- 00:44:45european guidelines suggest that
- 00:44:48it's still a 2b as far as the
- 00:44:50recommendation there's still not a lot
- 00:44:53of clear-cut evidence to suggest that
- 00:44:55that early on
- 00:44:57is still an increase in
- 00:45:00survival to discharge numbers i will say
- 00:45:02this
- 00:45:03regardless of which device you use
- 00:45:06whether it is a band supporting or a
- 00:45:08compression device
- 00:45:10striker versus like zoll
- 00:45:13you must must must train
- 00:45:16in the application of the device you
- 00:45:19can't just put it on a rig and expect
- 00:45:21that it's going to be an easy
- 00:45:23application because it's not
- 00:45:25that pause
- 00:45:27on some of the providers that they'll
- 00:45:29put on is an egregious pause and don't
- 00:45:31miss my talk about pauses pauses count
- 00:45:35right
- 00:45:36some of the worst uh day some of the
- 00:45:38data really suggests it's those 15 20 25
- 00:45:41second pauses which may be the biggest
- 00:45:44culprit to determine outcomes from
- 00:45:46cardiac arrest so if you've got a device
- 00:45:48i think that that's something your
- 00:45:50organization uses you must practice with
- 00:45:53it it takes more it takes energy and you
- 00:45:56can't just put it on the rig
- 00:45:58do it once a year and expect it to be a
- 00:45:59clean evolution so i hope that answers
- 00:46:02the question i believe there's an
- 00:46:04absolute place for this but we don't use
- 00:46:06it as a primary tool
- 00:46:08um in our organization
- 00:46:11it's definitely sort of that it's not
- 00:46:13you know necessarily a primary tool but
- 00:46:15having it in certain circumstances
- 00:46:17especially countries when you you know
- 00:46:20we might not have as many staff as you
- 00:46:22can dedicate to cardiac arrest or when
- 00:46:24we're talking rural and australia
- 00:46:26obviously has a massive massive past
- 00:46:29country then uh definitely a
- 00:46:33good opportunity to to take those and
- 00:46:35agree uh using that in your stock
- 00:46:37standard training so so the the staff
- 00:46:40really know what you're doing about that
- 00:46:42wonderful
- 00:46:43a few more questions we've got really on
- 00:46:45the matrix what would you recommend and
- 00:46:47i know you've gone through that one but
- 00:46:49it's really he's talking yeah the
- 00:46:51specifics more than just those
- 00:46:53generalized observations what what what
- 00:46:55are the matrix that you go these are
- 00:46:58definitely the ones that you need to
- 00:47:00look out for train with and obviously
- 00:47:02then capture back from events
- 00:47:05yes so that's first it's a great
- 00:47:06question thanks for asking that now
- 00:47:08remember
- 00:47:09we still measure those metrics during uh
- 00:47:12training analytics as well in fact we
- 00:47:14use um the laerdal qcpr mannequin with
- 00:47:17the sim pad
- 00:47:18i'll be honest with you um i i gave you
- 00:47:21my
- 00:47:22my disclosure i have no
- 00:47:24financial gain with the company but i
- 00:47:27will tell you they absolutely
- 00:47:29that product is what brought us out and
- 00:47:32put us at a high level using that
- 00:47:33product because we're real to measure
- 00:47:35depth
- 00:47:37we were able to measure recoil
- 00:47:39we measured timing we measured
- 00:47:41ventilation volume as and that was one
- 00:47:44of the things that we really identified
- 00:47:46when the mannequins would come from
- 00:47:48manufacture they were set at four to
- 00:47:49seven hundred mils
- 00:47:51which was too much for us so we were
- 00:47:53able to re-gauge that in the settings
- 00:47:55and that re-taught our 4 000 providers
- 00:47:58how to use between 350 to 500 those that
- 00:48:01laird all product qcpr mannequin was our
- 00:48:04go-to machine so um as you know i'm sure
- 00:48:08most people if you're using post
- 00:48:10analytic
- 00:48:11uh real time cases you're not going to
- 00:48:13get up ventilation volume from that
- 00:48:16you'll get ventilation timing
- 00:48:18so you've got to practice on where to
- 00:48:20get that volume unless you have some
- 00:48:21means uh in the either a add-on device
- 00:48:25which there are some of those coming
- 00:48:26around the product or through the um the
- 00:48:30electrodes that'll get that but we
- 00:48:32specifically identify depth
- 00:48:35recoil
- 00:48:37rate of compressions
- 00:48:40rate of timing of ventilations
- 00:48:42absolutely we look at
- 00:48:45compression fraction specifically break
- 00:48:47that down to pre-shock pause
- 00:48:50and post-shock pause which you all know
- 00:48:52is collectively called an aggregate the
- 00:48:55perry shock pause those are the
- 00:48:57specifics we're looking at and the last
- 00:48:59part don't forget
- 00:49:00we listen to every word that said
- 00:49:02so we have an audio tracing we heard we
- 00:49:05hear every word that you say on the case
- 00:49:07and also again some people might be
- 00:49:09raising an eyebrow but that's important
- 00:49:11to us it helps glue the call together so
- 00:49:14those are those specific
- 00:49:16they're all then reviewed
- 00:49:18and all of those data go very right back
- 00:49:20to the providers that actually ran the
- 00:49:23case so they can look at their
- 00:49:25benchmarks and see if they hit the king
- 00:49:27county benchmarks that we ask him or do
- 00:49:30we need some more remediation
- 00:49:32jed i hope that helps
- 00:49:34so so you've got a system in place to
- 00:49:37obviously then listen to all the
- 00:49:39recordings um review the event itself
- 00:49:42and then you feed back to the providers
- 00:49:45so so that's straight away
- 00:49:47done
- 00:49:48that's correct that's correct
- 00:49:51because we really believe you know
- 00:49:53acquiring data is just the acquisition
- 00:49:55of data it's what you do with it is what
- 00:49:58really comes into play so once we get
- 00:50:00those data points from every cardiac
- 00:50:02arrest we then review it for compliance
- 00:50:05annotate it make sure it's hipaa
- 00:50:07compliant in the u.s i'm not sure if you
- 00:50:09uh in the down there in australia new
- 00:50:11zealand or papua new guinea have hipaa
- 00:50:13but we do we want to make sure there's
- 00:50:15no names of the thing
- 00:50:17anyway and then we send it back to the
- 00:50:19providers and sometimes it's even done
- 00:50:21within 24 hours
- 00:50:23in some agencies before they get off
- 00:50:25shift they know how their performance
- 00:50:27was and certainly they know what the
- 00:50:29outcome of the patient
- 00:50:31that is wonderful and i know a couple of
- 00:50:34services here that will be very very
- 00:50:36jealous of that wonderful feedback look
- 00:50:38we are just about to finish off one last
- 00:50:41question
- 00:50:42how did you go about and it might be
- 00:50:44sort of either now or previous years on
- 00:50:47that getting everyone else on board with
- 00:50:50high performance cpr so obviously
- 00:50:52ambulance services is one thing
- 00:50:54how do you then go about and you know do
- 00:50:57you have some sort of feedback or some
- 00:50:59you know from your experience
- 00:51:01the
- 00:51:02fire departments you know are you
- 00:51:04working with maybe police
- 00:51:06what are all the organizations that
- 00:51:08you're hoping to target and get them to
- 00:51:11start understanding high performance cpr
- 00:51:13and the team the effect all of that
- 00:51:16so i'll i'll make this a two-part answer
- 00:51:18and i'll do the best i can so
- 00:51:20the first thing when we identified
- 00:51:23um that the science is really starting
- 00:51:25to point some clear directions about 10
- 00:51:2815 years ago
- 00:51:29and i would recommend this to all of the
- 00:51:31organizations out there you must have
- 00:51:33strong medical control strong medical
- 00:51:36oversight those physicians or whoever is
- 00:51:39that that medical director
- 00:51:41that understands the need to
- 00:51:43operationalize the current science then
- 00:51:46you couple that with mastery level
- 00:51:48instructors within the organization but
- 00:51:50yet still get the buy-in from the
- 00:51:52providers so what i'm trying to show on
- 00:51:54camera is there's got to be a top-down
- 00:51:57and a bottom-up connection it can't be
- 00:52:00one group point at the other and say do
- 00:52:02a better job it can't work that way it
- 00:52:05has to be medical directors or whoever
- 00:52:07is your medical direction offering good
- 00:52:10leadership
- 00:52:11the team and the trainers providing the
- 00:52:13education the performance and then once
- 00:52:16the performance starts coming back to
- 00:52:18those providers they understand the
- 00:52:20value of this new job we had to train 4
- 00:52:24000 in our program that's just in
- 00:52:27seattle king county that's not the
- 00:52:28united states that's just our program
- 00:52:31it wasn't easy
- 00:52:33but it wasn't hard either once we
- 00:52:36convinced them we can do a better job
- 00:52:37and gave them ownership
- 00:52:39they took it from there now the last
- 00:52:41part of the question is how do we then
- 00:52:42incor incorporate others to be a part of
- 00:52:45it police officers
- 00:52:47how do we get them involved it's the
- 00:52:49same thing we have to train we have to
- 00:52:51acknowledge we have to incorporate their
- 00:52:53organization their their leadership and
- 00:52:56let them know that we believe
- 00:52:58you can be a part of life-saving cardiac
- 00:53:01arrest the public we've been doing
- 00:53:03public training for cpr for decades and
- 00:53:07i'll be honest with all my colleagues
- 00:53:08out there one of the first things you
- 00:53:10should be looking at to increase
- 00:53:11survival in your community
- 00:53:13is to have those dispatchers or
- 00:53:15telecommunicators
- 00:53:16trained
- 00:53:17to do
- 00:53:18um telephone assisted cpr so they're the
- 00:53:22first first responders if you will
- 00:53:24and then get the
- 00:53:26citizens involved with it too
- 00:53:28if the citizens can put hands on the
- 00:53:30chest prior to your ambulance crew
- 00:53:32arriving chance of success
- 00:53:35rockets go straight up um one last
- 00:53:37question and i think then we're gonna
- 00:53:39have to let you go some pointers in when
- 00:53:42you have to move the patient yeah
- 00:53:45how do you sort of maintain that high
- 00:53:47performance yeah i'm reading the same
- 00:53:49question and i'm going to read this with
- 00:53:51the idea that we need to put them from
- 00:53:52the scene into the back of a rig or an
- 00:53:55ambulance right
- 00:53:56well um certainly uh the first thing is
- 00:53:59the culture
- 00:54:00we don't transport patients that are
- 00:54:03still need cpr
- 00:54:05we run a cardiac arrest at location
- 00:54:08until we generate rosk
- 00:54:10pulses
- 00:54:11and we only move once we have rosk
- 00:54:15now that said can they reoffend in the
- 00:54:17back of the rig they can now i
- 00:54:19understand that not everybody's like
- 00:54:21that i understand that so here's what i
- 00:54:23would suggest for those agencies that
- 00:54:25are required
- 00:54:27if they're so far out and maybe the
- 00:54:29medical direction says we need you to
- 00:54:30bring them into the hospital or whatever
- 00:54:33this is where those cpr assist devices
- 00:54:35can really come in handy right you can
- 00:54:38apply the assist device the chest
- 00:54:40compression assist device put them on a
- 00:54:42backboard put them on a gurney and you
- 00:54:44can continue compressions down a hallway
- 00:54:47down a stairwell
- 00:54:49but i'll tell you but remember where
- 00:54:51we're from
- 00:54:52we don't transport cpr and progress
- 00:54:55patients we run the codes at the scene
- 00:54:58until we establish rosk and if we don't
- 00:55:01then we'll call in and we'll make sure
- 00:55:03we have
- 00:55:04agreement and then we will end the
- 00:55:07resuscitation in the field
- 00:55:09thank you so much for your time um the
- 00:55:12presentation was wonderful and uh like i
- 00:55:14said it's so it's so incredible and so
- 00:55:17inspiring seeing the work that you are
- 00:55:19doing and you know you could have ended
- 00:55:22you know or stopped years years back and
- 00:55:24when you know we're doing an awesome job
- 00:55:26but i love that you keep on just
- 00:55:29chipping away and what else like what's
- 00:55:31the extra few seconds or that so i think
- 00:55:34that's inspirational and wonderful
- 00:55:36guidance from you for the for the rest
- 00:55:39of us so thank you on that one i'll say
- 00:55:42goodbye to you for now and i have a
- 00:55:44lovely christmas and happy holidays
- 00:55:47thank you very much
- 00:55:49thank you and i'll say that if anybody
- 00:55:50wants to get a hold of me out there i'm
- 00:55:52not sure how they can connect through
- 00:55:53you guys but i'm available if you want
- 00:55:55to get a hold of me send me an email
- 00:55:57send me connect and we will chat more
- 00:56:00perfect thank you very much yes anybody
- 00:56:02that wants to connect uh just uh uh
- 00:56:05contact us directly and then we will get
- 00:56:06you in touch thank you so much mike
- 00:56:08perfect
- 00:56:10um to everyone else thank you so much
- 00:56:12for continuing to join the cia webinars
- 00:56:16we are going to take a little break in
- 00:56:17january
- 00:56:19and we are going to be back in february
- 00:56:21we've got an exciting exciting plan for
- 00:56:23next year so from february through to
- 00:56:25december we'll be back with our monthly
- 00:56:28webinars on various topics everything
- 00:56:30from women in leadership clinical
- 00:56:33sustainability patient safety you name
- 00:56:36it we will be looking after that don't
- 00:56:38forget to jump on our website once those
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- 00:56:47and running and you can continue to
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- 00:56:55ones um thank you again for joining us
- 00:56:57this year and supporting the webinars
- 00:57:00have a lovely uh christmas and happy
- 00:57:02holidays and goodbye for now from all of
- 00:57:05us here at tmca thank you
- 00:57:09thanks for joining us for high
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- 00:57:16we're taking a break we'll be back with
- 00:57:18more webinars in the new year starting
- 00:57:20the 22nd of february
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- 00:57:32thanks for joining us in 2021 and we
- 00:57:34look forward to seeing you again in the
- 00:57:36new year
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