Five Years on YouTube (#84)

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TLDRNan podkast sa a, Evan ak Kaylin diskite sou eksperyans yo nan kreye kontni sou YouTube pandan 5 ane ki sot pase yo. Yo reflete sou de kòmansman yo pandan yo ap aprann ak kreye videyo, desizyon yo pran pou rezo ak kolaborasyon, ak kijan yo varye kontni yo ak sipò nan diferan chanèl yo. Pandan senkyèm ane yo, yo te abite nan nouvo kay yo ak devlopman chanèl yo, ki gen ladan kreye kontni gaming ak podcasting. Nan diskisyon an, yo penche sou balans travay ak lavi pèsonèl, ak desizyon pou vann mwens plas sponsorize pou jwenn plis tan pou tèt yo. Evantyèlman, yo eksprime kontanpleman sou plan pou lavni, ke yo vle kenbe fleksibilite ak eksplorasyon nan dezyèm chanèl yo tèstaticman, pandan toujou fè atansyon pou pran plis wikenn lib yo.

Takeaways

  • 🤔 Evan ak Kaylin reflechi sou 5 ane sou YouTube ak tout chanjman yo fè.
  • 📈 Premye ane yo te sou aprann basics yo epi fè eksperyans ak nouvo lide.
  • 🎥 Dezyèm ane yo te sou rezo ak kolaborasyon ak lòt YouTubernan.
  • 🎮 Twazyèm ane te wè elajisman nan kontni ak entwodiksyon de gaming.
  • 🏠 Ane senk te konsantre sou mouvman nan nouvo espas epi ajiste ekip kreyativ.
  • 🛠️ Yo eseye mete plis editè pou sous-trèt ensousiyans edisyon.
  • 📅 Yo estratejikman vann mwens plas sponsorize pou 2022 pou éleve flexibilite yo.
  • 👫 Diskite sou balans travay-lavi ak desizyon pèsonèl.
  • 🎯 Yo bezwen pou kenbe ak elaji chanèl dezyèm yo.
  • 🎙️ Podcast la se yon mwayen yo renmen pou pale ak kominote a, menm si yo pa pibliye souvan.

Garis waktu

  • 00:00:00 - 00:05:00

    Kaylin ak Evan ap reflechi sou travay yo sou YouTube apre 5 ane, kreye plizyè santèn videyo epi apèn reyalize li se karyè yo. Malgre yo santi yo an sekirite nan biznis yo, li toujou santi yo etranj ke se sa yo fè kòm travay.

  • 00:05:00 - 00:10:00

    Yo diskite sou balans lavi-travay ki amelyore epi chèche plezi nan kreye pwojè pèsonèl menm san yo pa filme li. Yo rekonèt ke anrejistreman videyo se sèlman yon pati nan travay yo, pandan ke lòt bagay, tankou kòd, koreksyon ak ekzekisyon piblisite, okipe plis tan.

  • 00:10:00 - 00:15:00

    Refleksyon yo montre ke alokasyon tan sou diferan kalite kontni sou chèn prensipal yo, pwodiksyon videyo ak pwosesis operasyon biznis se esansyèl pou kalifye yo kòm YouTubers.

  • 00:15:00 - 00:20:00

    Yo rekonèt ke anpil nan travay yo se pa pwodiksyon kreyatif, men amelyore estrikti òganizasyonèl la. Yo konprann balans ant kreyasyon kontni, ideasyon ak jesyon biznis ki kontribye nan karyè YouTuber yo.

  • 00:20:00 - 00:25:00

    Yo brase lide sou prim anpil reyalize sou YouTube. Yo konsidere chache balans ant kreye videyo sou chèn prensipal yo ak satisfè bezwen pou divès kontni. Anplis de sa, yo eksplore konpleksite travèse alamòd kontni.

  • 00:25:00 - 00:30:00

    Yo mansyone evolisyon travay yo pandan ane yo, ki gen ladan moman kle yo tankou pran syèj plen tan sou YouTube ak chanjman nan kalite videyo yo fè.

  • 00:30:00 - 00:35:00

    Yo reflete sou asemade yo ak lòt YouTubers, diskite sou enpòtans kominote, patenarya ak evènman. Estrateji elajisman an se esansyèl nan evolisyon yo.

  • 00:35:00 - 00:40:00

    Yo konsidere siksè nan gen chèn sekans kounyeya. Yo estime ke sa pèmèt yo swe siksè yo sou plizyè nivo kreyatif ak finansye.

  • 00:40:00 - 00:45:00

    Yo reflechi sou jere lavi ak orè travay yo, souvan diskite sou travay ak pwoblèm tan pèsonèl ki te mennen nan chwa yo fè ak karyè kòm YouTubers.

  • 00:45:00 - 00:53:33

    Lavi pèsonèl, gwo lapriyè ak objè pèsonèl ki enpòtan pou yo ke yo reflete sou enpak karyè YouTube la te genyen sou kalite lavi yo.

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Video Tanya Jawab

  • Ki jan Evan ak Kaylin te kòmanse karyè yo sou YouTube?

    Yo te kòmanse an 2017, aprann fè videyo epi verifye si sa t'ap travay kòm karyè.

  • Ki sa ki te diferan nan dezyèm ane yo sou YouTube?

    Dezyèm ane yo te konsantre sou rezo ak kolabore ak lòt YouTubernan ak ale nan evènman.

  • Ki jan yo chanje kontni yo nan twazyèm ane?

    Yo te kòmanse plizyè kalite kontni tankou podcast ak jwe jwèt epi fè eksperyans ak lòt videyo.

  • Ki sa ki te pi gwo defi pandan ane senk la?

    Pandan ane senk, yo te rantre nan kay nouvo epi prepare estidyo ak fè transfè nan nouvo editè.

  • Ki plan yo pou lavni an tèm de kontni YouTube?

    Yo vle kontinye ak videyo dezyèm chanèl yo, epi asire plis tan pèsonèl pou tèt yo.

  • Ki jan yo jere balans travay ak lavi pèsonèl yo?

    Yo te kòmanse travay sou balans sa a, fè plis tan pou fanmi ak randevou pèsonèl.

  • Kijan yo planifye pou diminye travay pandan 2022?

    Yo te vann mwens plas sponsorize pou 2022 sa ki kite yo plis fleksibilite.

  • Ki chanèl YouTube yo genyen?

    Yo gen plizyè chanèl ki gen ladan prensipal, dezyèm chanèl, uncut, gaming, ak podcast.

  • Ki sa k motive yo pou kenbe fè podkèst?

    Yo apresye fòm ki pi long la pou pataje ak kominote, malgre li pa regilye.

  • Ki gwo objektif yo pou 2022?

    Yo vle pran plis wikenn lib e kontinye eksplore kontni sou dezyèm chanèl yo.

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Gulir Otomatis:
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    hey Kaylin hey Evan so I'm going to
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    start off the podcast with a very
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    difficult and complex question okay a
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    question that I don't even know how to
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    formulate yet so let's work through it
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    okay and if you don't if you can't
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    answer it we'll we'll we'll figure it
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    out together okay but after five years
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    on YouTube yes
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    190 main Channel videos yes over 300
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    gaming videos
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    okay 220 supporter videos 82 podcast
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    episodes and now nine second Channel
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    videos plus even more crafting streams
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    and clips and
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    Etc do you feel
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    secure in like our identity as
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    YouTubers um yeah oh that's interesting
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    let's talk about
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    [Music]
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    that is like I guys not I I let's talk
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    about I'm going to do the outline first
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    okay okay we're going to talk about like
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    um a whole bunch of things reflect on
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    the 5 years of our careers on YouTube
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    big changes in our life and work and
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    stuff like that the future of the
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    podcast but yeah like I I I had this
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    question in my head and I've been like
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    trying to formulate how to ask it to you
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    while I Was preparing this podcast I
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    honestly spent like 20 minutes just
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    trying to like think of like how to
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    start this episode yeah
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    and it's and it's weird cuz like I I
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    totally feel like I understand so much
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    about YouTube so much about content
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    creation so much about running a
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    business around that and stuff too but
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    at the same time like it still kind of
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    feels like we're making this all
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    up true and it kind of feels like we're
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    just living our life and filming it and
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    people like that
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    somehow yeah and it's just kind of like
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    it's still after 5 years I'm secure in
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    the business that we have yeah and in in
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    everything that we're doing and
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    everything but it still just like hasn't
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    fully clicked with me that this is what
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    we're doing as our job I mean it
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    definitely does feel weird to me so like
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    I do have moments of like I kind of take
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    a step outside myself and I look at like
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    a snapshot of what me or you or the two
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    of us are doing in any given moment and
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    I'm like it just weird that this is our
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    job and it's not just when we're doing
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    like you know the obviously weird things
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    some of our projects but or just like
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    here at this desk playing games like
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    this is weird that this is our job and I
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    think another thing hit me the other day
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    um we're going to talk about how our
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    work life balance has gotten a little
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    bit better which is thank goodness um in
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    a little bit but like the other day I
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    wanted to make some personal time for me
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    me outside of work and what did I choose
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    to do you made a
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    project I I'll maybe show you guys some
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    portion of it later but I didn't want to
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    film it or anything like that I just
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    wanted to like go out there and make
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    something and it's it's it's honestly
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    pretty awesome um but like I think that
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    that was like another moment uh for me
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    it's like we are just
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    doing what we want what we love and
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    somehow that's like we now can just like
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    justify time and cost it takes to do
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    projects all sorts of crazy things yeah
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    that is true yeah it's kind of crazy now
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    the most work part of our days is the
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    actual work part at the computer doing
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    that like coordinating editing uploading
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    all this stuff probably about like I
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    think we were talking the other
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    day 25% of our work is creating content
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    maybe like that yeah maybe something
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    like that so much more of it is all the
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    other stuff all the other stuff yeah
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    which
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    like
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    every every time we create a piece of
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    content we're creating a bunch of other
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    to-dos for ourselves so like just
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    filming a video it's like okay well now
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    we need to process the footage it either
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    needs to be edited by me or one of the
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    editors we need to make a thumbnail for
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    it we need to you know if it's a
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    sponsored video like a lot of ours are
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    then we need to get sponsor approval and
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    fil or film The write the app film the
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    ad edit the ad get sponsor approval the
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    whole process you we got to upload it we
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    got to do the metadata we've gotten
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    pretty good at it we we know how to do
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    it but like filming filming one video
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    produces a lot of to-dos yeah um I don't
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    really know where I was going with that
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    oh yeah I guess I was just talking about
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    like the percentage of our work it it
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    kind of depends on the projects honestly
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    if all we did was our main Channel
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    videos mhm I wonder if it would be
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    different because those videos take so
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    much longer to produce yeah um than the
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    other content that we make um so for
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    those we might spend maybe it would be
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    50/50 yeah working on the project itself
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    versus all the other things I don't know
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    I think it's also interesting I was
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    listening to I'm kind of going
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    completely off script but I think I'm
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    trying to embrace it we have an outline
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    here I'm just kind of going off off off
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    the rails um I was listening to another
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    podcast Colin and Samir um uh I I don't
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    know their full full story but they do a
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    lot of deep Dives with other YouTubers
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    about other YouTubers channels um and I
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    was listening to them interview mkd and
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    you know MKBHD MKBHD uh you know we
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    Weist yeah yeah I'm sorry marz um uh and
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    and he was saying that you know at his
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    core the main thing that he brings is
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    like he's like the idea generator Ator
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    and stuff like that and I think that you
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    know since there's the two of us and we
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    do have editing help now um which we're
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    going to talk about some but like you
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    know I think maybe because there's so
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    many different aspects of our job you
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    know not just the content creation uh
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    but also like the ideation and the like
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    running the business and everything like
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    that I think that might be why I don't
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    like
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    fully fully feel like a YouTuber because
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    so much of our job is the other parts of
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    it I don't know it's interesting I just
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    think of all those other parts part of
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    it I guess I I don't know why
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    but like sounds kind of weird to
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    say I feel like I
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    have what's the best way to word this in
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    terms of like being a YouTuber I kind of
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    feel like I've had like whatever reverse
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    impostor syndrome is like I've been
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    oddly overconfident from the beginning
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    like when we first decided we were going
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    to start a channel we were just like
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    yeah we'll just start a channel I don't
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    know if we just didn't do enough a
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    research into how difficult that is yeah
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    like we knew it would be a lot of work
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    um but we were just like yeah you know
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    we'll just start making videos and
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    someone will watch them you know and
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    then I think I remember
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    feeling like a YouTuber after we hit
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    100K like 100,000 Subs I was like okay
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    we're doing it that was like a pretty
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    big big milestone whereas before that it
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    felt like we were still kind of trying
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    to become a legit Channel yeah you know
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    I don't know yeah that's kind of when it
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    started feeling like it for me and it's
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    just grown as we've figured out um you
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    know like what's what's the suite of
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    channels we want to do what various
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    types of content do we want to make cuz
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    back then we were just doing like DIY
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    maker videos on one channel now we have
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    a lot more now we have a lot more and
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    we're doing a lot of different types of
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    content so um I've always believed in US
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    believed in the channel believed in the
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    success of what we're doing I think I I
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    kind of had more confidence in it
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    earlier than you you were
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    like not you didn't have any hesitations
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    but you're always like I wonder how long
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    this is going to last for a while oh
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    yeah well I still have that but that's
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    different wondering how long it's going
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    to last is more thinking about the
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    factors that you don't have control over
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    it's like will our video style just
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    become like dated and people don't want
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    to watch it anymore will YouTube change
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    its algorithm to favor something that
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    doesn't work with our content type like
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    you know is they're going to be some
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    crazy uh you know law that comes into
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    place where now YouTube is responsible
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    legally responsible for all the words
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    said on its platform and so it just like
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    you know kicks off 95% % of its creators
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    just to be safe you know so when I have
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    those moments of like not knowing what
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    things are going to look like in 5 years
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    or whatever it's more of the stuff out
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    of our control but it's not really about
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    like
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    me not feeling like a YouTuber or like I
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    you know am legit or whatever I don't
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    know yeah you know what I kind of missed
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    these podcasts just chatting with you
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    about like all these like things cuz
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    like we we talk all the time about all
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    of this constantly um but uh it's kind
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    of fun like bringing up some of these
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    topics and and working through our
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    feelings with you guys well then we have
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    like a we're capturing a moment in time
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    yeah I feel you know yeah I think so too
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    it's crazy looking like looking back at
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    some of our podcast man when I when I
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    watch the podcast of me after
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    appendicitis I'm like oh my gosh I was
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    like barely there yeah you were out of
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    it I was so out of it it's crazy
  • 00:09:59
    I don't know why I thought it' be a good
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    idea to do a podcast when I was like
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    like so out of it but hey it's it's it's
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    it's interesting looking back on
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    everything um one of the reasons why I I
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    personally didn't want to do a podcast
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    for a bit is cuz for a while there I
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    felt like and this is just me me
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    personally saying this you you can speak
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    on it well you know too I'd love to hear
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    your feel your thoughts but like I
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    kind of thought for a while there we
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    were saying the same things to you guys
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    and to our audience of like Hey we're
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    going to we're going to get our this out
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    of control bus in control we are going
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    to start taking more personal time we
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    are going to figure all of these things
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    out and I think that we've been like
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    saying that for like three years
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    yeah especially like a lot on this
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    podcast and it probably seems like more
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    to us than even to you guys cuz we
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    brought it up in you know some of the
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    podcast episodes but to each other or
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    like to our families we've mentioned we
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    talk
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    yeah Recs like oh yeah we really we just
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    got to get a handle on things we really
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    we're working this weekend no we can't
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    make it to that or whatever we're just
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    in extra extra Rush mode sorry we're
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    going to have to you know yeah this this
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    opportunity came up and we just had to
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    go for it or there's this idea that we
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    just got to rush on or something just
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    got real behind you know this the
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    project took a took a turn and you know
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    and I think that like I just kind of
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    didn't want to
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    like I don't know didn't want to talk
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    about this kind of stuff till we
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    actually had had some like had some
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    change to report change to report and
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    everything yeah so so I wonder when the
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    last time we talked about that was
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    probably around the time we were moving
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    because like the only podcast between
  • 00:11:48
    moving and now were appendicitis and uh
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    you know getting sick with every time we
  • 00:11:53
    did like our yearly goals remember we
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    used to do yearly goals for a while like
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    yeah 2018 2019 gosu I don't know why I
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    laughed like that yeah we did hey you
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    know a lot of those goals we hit we we
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    did good stuff we did um yeah so I I
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    think uh we have made those changes but
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    before we get there um let's talk about
  • 00:12:17
    how the channels changed over the years
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    yeah yeah so I think um I'm going to
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    need a lot of your memory for this cuz I
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    I have a bad memory for
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    time and years and stuff like that
  • 00:12:33
    best I think year one was just getting
  • 00:12:37
    our feet under
  • 00:12:38
    us I don't think we know no year one how
  • 00:12:42
    would you define year one year one was
  • 00:12:45
    learning how to
  • 00:12:48
    make videos yeah and putting enough out
  • 00:12:52
    there that there was some semblance of
  • 00:12:55
    hope that maybe we could do this yeah
  • 00:13:00
    yeah you're right cuz we I was still
  • 00:13:02
    working you were still working we for
  • 00:13:03
    most of your and I I'll just say like
  • 00:13:06
    okay let's call year one 2017 cuz we
  • 00:13:09
    started the channel in March of 2017 so
  • 00:13:11
    if I just look at it like that I think
  • 00:13:14
    we quit our jobs one did our did we quit
  • 00:13:16
    our jobs towards the end of 2017 I don't
  • 00:13:19
    know or was it in 2018 where's where's
  • 00:13:21
    that video scroll scroll scroll scroll
  • 00:13:23
    scroll okay we did we do a going
  • 00:13:26
    fulltime yeah we did you don't remember
  • 00:13:28
    that yeah yeah yeah I think there it is
  • 00:13:30
    okay 3 years ago so let's see what date
  • 00:13:34
    that video was on that was in November
  • 00:13:35
    2018 so a year and a half in is when wow
  • 00:13:40
    we quit our jobs I can't believe we
  • 00:13:42
    worked jobs for a year and a half while
  • 00:13:45
    doing this yeah no it was tapered
  • 00:13:47
    tapered yeah so like yeah I did
  • 00:13:48
    Consulting and stuff like that yeah you
  • 00:13:50
    quit your job and you were doing
  • 00:13:51
    consulting and then I reduced my hour
  • 00:13:54
    slightly and then I quit and then you
  • 00:13:55
    stopped your Consulting so it wasn't
  • 00:13:57
    like all and then nothing but I I think
  • 00:14:00
    I think the first year I think towards
  • 00:14:03
    the end of the first year is when you
  • 00:14:05
    quit and started doing
  • 00:14:07
    consulting yeah anyways the first year
  • 00:14:10
    was just kind of us like doing like
  • 00:14:12
    proof of concept like is this
  • 00:14:15
    enough for us to maybe do this as a job
  • 00:14:18
    yeah that's what I remember both both of
  • 00:14:21
    our parents were still pretty doubtful
  • 00:14:23
    yet supportive at that point they were
  • 00:14:25
    like yeah I mean I don't want to I don't
  • 00:14:27
    want to speak for them
  • 00:14:30
    um I my memory is sort of tied to like
  • 00:14:33
    what videos we were filming at the time
  • 00:14:35
    um I think year two was our year of like
  • 00:14:40
    we going to say yes to everything was
  • 00:14:44
    that year two I think I'm trying to
  • 00:14:46
    remember what year that was but I
  • 00:14:47
    remember that year that's where we did
  • 00:14:49
    all of the events all of the the like so
  • 00:14:52
    many collabs and everything yeah looking
  • 00:14:53
    at this that feels I'm yeah yeah oh yeah
  • 00:14:56
    we have the videos behind us yeah so we
  • 00:14:58
    have steel we did yeah we did a collab
  • 00:15:01
    with Bob from I like to make stuff with
  • 00:15:04
    we did umn crafted Workshop yeah Bill
  • 00:15:07
    and Brit from punish prop like we did so
  • 00:15:09
    many so many collabs you know David from
  • 00:15:11
    make something yeah and we went to a lot
  • 00:15:13
    of events like I see I saw like our
  • 00:15:14
    maker Fair Vlog and and so we were just
  • 00:15:17
    like we will say yes to everything MH
  • 00:15:21
    and we were just trying to like meet
  • 00:15:23
    other people in the community and like
  • 00:15:26
    go to every event we could we like took
  • 00:15:28
    on spee gigs for events just so that we
  • 00:15:31
    could be there you know what I mean I I
  • 00:15:34
    I yeah like be there with like the
  • 00:15:36
    special badge you know I was kind of
  • 00:15:39
    like let's just say yes to things and
  • 00:15:40
    we'll figure it out when we get there
  • 00:15:41
    and Caitlyn's like H oh yeah no that
  • 00:15:44
    makes me especially like the speaking at
  • 00:15:46
    events thing yeah we did our first um
  • 00:15:50
    speaker event when we had 40,000
  • 00:15:52
    subscribers yep so you know just very
  • 00:15:57
    much in the beginning
  • 00:15:59
    um so that's what I remember about year
  • 00:16:01
    two was year three when we started
  • 00:16:04
    pushing our content towards a more
  • 00:16:07
    diverse like
  • 00:16:10
    uh year content type year three I
  • 00:16:15
    believe was yeah um playing around with
  • 00:16:19
    our content to start doing projects that
  • 00:16:22
    weren't only like practical projects Bob
  • 00:16:24
    Ross tutorial yeah we started doing like
  • 00:16:27
    we did the Bob Ross tutorial we tried a
  • 00:16:29
    few Vlogs we tried oh you're scrolling
  • 00:16:32
    too fast um you got to go back a little
  • 00:16:34
    bit
  • 00:16:35
    um we uh did some silly things like can
  • 00:16:39
    uh epoxy cooking egg but also we started
  • 00:16:43
    gaming and the podcast gaming in the
  • 00:16:45
    podcast it was like diversify year yeah
  • 00:16:48
    yeah yeah yeah that was right year one
  • 00:16:50
    was
  • 00:16:51
    like start yeah start year two was like
  • 00:16:55
    say yes to everything year three was
  • 00:16:58
    spread out and like see kind of what
  • 00:17:01
    content type we like the best so we
  • 00:17:03
    tried so many different things yeah um
  • 00:17:06
    year
  • 00:17:08
    4 I think um was year four
  • 00:17:13
    2020 2021
  • 00:17:15
    2020 I'm getting lost in the math here
  • 00:17:18
    yeah was year four so 2017 is year one
  • 00:17:22
    2018 is year 2 2019 is year three 2020
  • 00:17:27
    is year 4 yeah
  • 00:17:31
    2017
  • 00:17:33
    2018 I'm just going to write it down our
  • 00:17:35
    notes
  • 00:17:36
    2019 yeah yeah 2021 so you skipped
  • 00:17:41
    2020 oops I was just testing you and
  • 00:17:44
    thinking of like the years you know we
  • 00:17:46
    didn't start January 1 we started in
  • 00:17:48
    March but that just kind of helps me
  • 00:17:50
    like picture the year as a whole easier
  • 00:17:53
    so year
  • 00:17:54
    four um was 2020 and so we obviously
  • 00:17:59
    couldn't go to events and stuff anymore
  • 00:18:02
    year four is when we got much more
  • 00:18:04
    serious about
  • 00:18:05
    streaming we did and yeah we definitely
  • 00:18:08
    ramped up there a lot it ramped up there
  • 00:18:10
    a lot like I think live streaming in
  • 00:18:12
    general got even bigger with everyone
  • 00:18:15
    stuck at home and um our stream started
  • 00:18:19
    growing a lot we started streaming a lot
  • 00:18:21
    more and much more consistently I think
  • 00:18:24
    we're doing like two to three times a
  • 00:18:25
    week fairly consistently yeah yeah
  • 00:18:28
    probably close to three times a week
  • 00:18:30
    yeah um closer to three on on average
  • 00:18:32
    pretty consistently and then also
  • 00:18:34
    continuing to um like add more and more
  • 00:18:39
    like sillier videos that's when we did
  • 00:18:41
    uh we did cooking with Evan and Caitlyn
  • 00:18:43
    oh yeah yeah so we're like continuing to
  • 00:18:45
    diversify so it was kind of like a
  • 00:18:47
    continuation but I remember streaming
  • 00:18:49
    and I think that's when we started doing
  • 00:18:51
    our um crafting streams yeah crafting
  • 00:18:55
    streams um so streaming grew a lot
  • 00:18:58
    that's when became Partners I believe on
  • 00:19:00
    Twitch if I am remembering correctly I
  • 00:19:04
    did not prepare I should have prepared
  • 00:19:06
    more um for some of these specifics so
  • 00:19:09
    that's what I remember 2020 being 2021
  • 00:19:12
    was the year of moving yeah it was the
  • 00:19:14
    year that was our goal we started
  • 00:19:16
    looking at houses at the very beginning
  • 00:19:18
    of the year yep you know um and like uh
  • 00:19:22
    a year and three months later here we
  • 00:19:25
    are yeah yeah um so what's the goal for
  • 00:19:29
    2022 AKA like what will be looking back
  • 00:19:33
    on it the sixth
  • 00:19:35
    year well I think I think like like one
  • 00:19:37
    thing that we kind of skipped over
  • 00:19:38
    though in in our fifth year we we did
  • 00:19:41
    the move we set up all of the filming St
  • 00:19:45
    so it's been it's been a big journey to
  • 00:19:47
    get to where we are here like yeah it
  • 00:19:49
    wasn't just like moving houses not just
  • 00:19:50
    moving but yeah setting up all of the
  • 00:19:52
    filming sets you know the garage one we
  • 00:19:55
    have three studios in our house mhm yeah
  • 00:19:58
    yeah so if you haven't seen Evan and
  • 00:20:00
    Caitlin uncut that's where the uh the
  • 00:20:02
    third studio is yeah some of those
  • 00:20:04
    videos get edited for Evan and Caitlin
  • 00:20:06
    too yeah um I think the other thing this
  • 00:20:09
    is probably what you're leaning towards
  • 00:20:10
    towards the end of 2020 once we finally
  • 00:20:12
    had our feet under us a little bit from
  • 00:20:15
    the move and appendicitis and all that
  • 00:20:18
    we started two things yep we started
  • 00:20:21
    doing more for the second Channel yep
  • 00:20:24
    and we started bringing on our gaming
  • 00:20:26
    editors for the second Channel and for
  • 00:20:29
    the main Channel and we did the uncut oh
  • 00:20:31
    yeah we started that yeah that's kind of
  • 00:20:33
    a minor thing though that I think that's
  • 00:20:34
    pretty big I think like starting the
  • 00:20:37
    uncut Channel and splitting Evan and
  • 00:20:40
    Caitlyn 2 and Evan and Caitlyn uncut
  • 00:20:41
    that was a pretty big we we we I'm not
  • 00:20:44
    saying it wasn't a big decision I'm
  • 00:20:45
    saying from like an outside perspective
  • 00:20:47
    it didn't change anything yeah it didn't
  • 00:20:48
    really change we were doing long streams
  • 00:20:51
    and shorter edited videos on the second
  • 00:20:53
    Channel and we just split those into two
  • 00:20:56
    channels yeah yeah that's true so um but
  • 00:20:59
    our focus on doing more second Channel
  • 00:21:01
    videos and bringing in the editors was a
  • 00:21:05
    big change it just didn't happen till
  • 00:21:06
    the end of 2021 yeah yeah we we we
  • 00:21:08
    fitted into the last little bit of our
  • 00:21:10
    fifth year but I think that's one of the
  • 00:21:12
    the biggest changes that we've made you
  • 00:21:15
    know putting a little more time into
  • 00:21:17
    second Channel content growing that into
  • 00:21:20
    something that can be a big part of our
  • 00:21:22
    brand and business and everything like
  • 00:21:25
    that um because Angel's giving us an
  • 00:21:27
    outlet for other videos that we want to
  • 00:21:30
    try but we don't want to put on the main
  • 00:21:34
    Channel cuz it might like bring drag
  • 00:21:36
    down the whole Channel average or like
  • 00:21:38
    turn our normal viewers off of the
  • 00:21:40
    channel because it's so different and we
  • 00:21:42
    know that a lot of you guys wouldn't
  • 00:21:45
    mind that content being on Evan and
  • 00:21:47
    Caitlyn the people listening to the
  • 00:21:48
    podcast yeah um but you know numbers
  • 00:21:52
    don't lie like but we tried doing
  • 00:21:55
    cooking videos on the main Channel or
  • 00:21:56
    the Vlog on the main Channel like that
  • 00:21:59
    they got a lot less views so we're like
  • 00:22:01
    maybe this type of stuff should be
  • 00:22:02
    separated into a separate Channel you
  • 00:22:05
    know and grouped with a similar type of
  • 00:22:06
    content you know CU we don't want to
  • 00:22:08
    like also like if we put out a vlog on
  • 00:22:11
    Evan and Caitlin and people are like wow
  • 00:22:12
    I love this Vlog I want more and then
  • 00:22:15
    they go to our that channel and it's all
  • 00:22:17
    DIYs yeah you know it's good to group
  • 00:22:19
    like content around like content um for
  • 00:22:24
    for lots of reasons yeah um but yeah so
  • 00:22:27
    that was that was was changes the main
  • 00:22:30
    changes in year five and now we are
  • 00:22:32
    entering year six yeah and I think that
  • 00:22:35
    like finally at this point you know we
  • 00:22:38
    we do have a lot of channels we have the
  • 00:22:41
    main the second the uncut the gaming
  • 00:22:44
    gaming uncut podcast Clips MH is that
  • 00:22:48
    all of them well we have our two like
  • 00:22:50
    personal channels that we're just
  • 00:22:51
    sitting on but those won't be anything
  • 00:22:54
    yeah so that's all them have some No 1 2
  • 00:22:57
    3 4 5 six yeah seven seven seven seven
  • 00:23:00
    including the main um those are all the
  • 00:23:03
    channels yes yeah and I think that like
  • 00:23:05
    at this point I feel like if we want to
  • 00:23:10
    do something and we want to film it
  • 00:23:12
    there's a place for it now MH you know
  • 00:23:14
    like like like to
  • 00:23:16
    us where things go is pretty clear and
  • 00:23:19
    everything um but uh and I think that
  • 00:23:22
    that's kind of like a really good place
  • 00:23:24
    to get to and to like feel that because
  • 00:23:28
    like me personally I I have this like
  • 00:23:32
    kind of fear of missing out on an
  • 00:23:37
    unknown or something like that unknown
  • 00:23:40
    fomo unknown fomo yeah and like I I I I
  • 00:23:44
    you know for a long time we've kind of
  • 00:23:46
    been exploring and experimenting MH to
  • 00:23:48
    find what we like what we where we want
  • 00:23:50
    to go and stuff like that and you know
  • 00:23:53
    there have always there's always been a
  • 00:23:54
    slight question of you know how many
  • 00:23:56
    channels are we going to end up with and
  • 00:23:58
    you know what how are we going to like
  • 00:24:01
    fit kind of like what I said in the very
  • 00:24:03
    beginning like we just kind of want to
  • 00:24:05
    like live our life film the parts of it
  • 00:24:07
    that we think would make for fun videos
  • 00:24:10
    and then put it out and now I feel like
  • 00:24:12
    we have a place for it all um that makes
  • 00:24:15
    sense to us MH yeah so I think that's
  • 00:24:17
    really cool for 2022 I don't know I'm
  • 00:24:20
    pretty I'm pretty cool with where we're
  • 00:24:21
    at now okay so here's my 2022 goal in in
  • 00:24:26
    terms of content mhm and stuff like in
  • 00:24:29
    terms of the channels I think it's kind
  • 00:24:31
    of continuing down the path we've been
  • 00:24:33
    on I like the types of videos we make I
  • 00:24:35
    like the suite of channels we have I do
  • 00:24:38
    want to experiment more with second
  • 00:24:40
    Channel videos cuz that's kind of like
  • 00:24:42
    the new exciting thing yep I'm worried
  • 00:24:44
    what curse curs things are going to come
  • 00:24:46
    up with yes I have been enjoying coming
  • 00:24:49
    up with Cur things um but I think my
  • 00:24:52
    main goal is like to be able to take
  • 00:24:57
    weekends yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah
  • 00:24:59
    even just one weekend day a couple times
  • 00:25:02
    a month oh no I'm going to get more
  • 00:25:04
    aggressive than that I'm thinking I want
  • 00:25:06
    to be practical I want to have by the
  • 00:25:10
    end of 2022 I want to
  • 00:25:14
    have at least three weekends per month
  • 00:25:18
    full weekends like Double Days oh no
  • 00:25:20
    three three days off okay so it's only
  • 00:25:23
    one more day than what I was saying
  • 00:25:25
    maybe five maybe five I was saying two
  • 00:25:26
    days off you're saying three days off a
  • 00:25:28
    month no five oh five a month two to
  • 00:25:33
    five days off a
  • 00:25:35
    month and that's not to say like we to
  • 00:25:39
    give us props um we have been able to do
  • 00:25:44
    more family things this year yep and
  • 00:25:46
    more personal things yeah this and more
  • 00:25:48
    personal things we we have made you know
  • 00:25:51
    since we living here we have since
  • 00:25:53
    recently made like doctors and dentist
  • 00:25:55
    appointments which were overd first time
  • 00:25:57
    in a while for sure about um you know
  • 00:26:00
    we've been able to do some house stuff
  • 00:26:02
    like you know improving this this house
  • 00:26:05
    that we we loved and moved into and it's
  • 00:26:07
    kind of been
  • 00:26:10
    like completely
  • 00:26:12
    underutilized and like you know just
  • 00:26:16
    like we we haven't like moved in until I
  • 00:26:21
    still don't consider us fully like
  • 00:26:23
    settled and then no not at all settled
  • 00:26:25
    but like we we've been starting to like
  • 00:26:28
    the the progress had been flat
  • 00:26:31
    absolutely flat for like nine months MH
  • 00:26:36
    and now we're moving again house
  • 00:26:37
    progress house progress yeah you know
  • 00:26:39
    and I think that's that's great um yeah
  • 00:26:42
    so we have been able to like devote some
  • 00:26:46
    time to those things that are personal
  • 00:26:49
    things you know but we haven't the only
  • 00:26:52
    time we've taken off just like a day to
  • 00:26:54
    do whatever we want are on our birthdays
  • 00:26:57
    yeah that's true and there have been
  • 00:26:58
    some birthdays in the past where we did
  • 00:26:59
    not and we still don't work but soon I
  • 00:27:02
    mean we we're we're we're
  • 00:27:03
    getting I think that we have taken some
  • 00:27:06
    days off though just just because and we
  • 00:27:09
    have plans to take you know more days
  • 00:27:11
    off have we taken days off when like
  • 00:27:13
    this year aside from our
  • 00:27:16
    birthdays I think I kind of think of
  • 00:27:19
    like person like family time maybe I'm
  • 00:27:21
    like saying family time taking like
  • 00:27:22
    whole days off yeah you know but I guess
  • 00:27:25
    to me that's kind of different because
  • 00:27:27
    like when you have an outside Force
  • 00:27:28
    that's like hey it's so and so's
  • 00:27:31
    birthday we're going to go we're going
  • 00:27:33
    to spend the day together yeah that's
  • 00:27:34
    different can you guys come we'll look
  • 00:27:36
    at our calendar be like move this uh
  • 00:27:40
    yeah okay but we wouldn't we wouldn't
  • 00:27:42
    feel comfortable enough in how in our
  • 00:27:44
    workload to um to just take that day off
  • 00:27:50
    ourselves like we make it happen and
  • 00:27:53
    then we like pay for it before and after
  • 00:27:54
    yeah yeah okay so I came up with during
  • 00:27:58
    one sleepless night recently I came up
  • 00:28:00
    with this analogy and I don't know if
  • 00:28:02
    it'll hold up now saying it during the
  • 00:28:04
    day to you and everyone get Evan night
  • 00:28:07
    thought yeah
  • 00:28:10
    um the position that we're in right now
  • 00:28:13
    is strange M because
  • 00:28:16
    most
  • 00:28:18
    jobs you are an
  • 00:28:21
    employee and then you have most people
  • 00:28:24
    have bosses mhm you know and as an
  • 00:28:28
    employee you want to like do good work
  • 00:28:31
    and you want your boss your job to treat
  • 00:28:33
    you fairly and you know not ask too much
  • 00:28:36
    of you and stuff like that but also as
  • 00:28:39
    kind of like a boss in most companies
  • 00:28:43
    bosses are kind of incentivized to get
  • 00:28:45
    the most out of the employee that they
  • 00:28:46
    can you know what I mean and like we are
  • 00:28:50
    both bosses and
  • 00:28:53
    employees and like the boss role
  • 00:28:58
    of like my mentality is like okay worker
  • 00:29:02
    Evan you enjoy the
  • 00:29:05
    work and you're going to benefit from
  • 00:29:07
    the work so just work more MH you know
  • 00:29:10
    what I mean and like I think that for
  • 00:29:13
    the longest time like
  • 00:29:14
    worker worker like self me is like yeah
  • 00:29:19
    I do like the job and I will benefit so
  • 00:29:21
    I'll work more mhm and
  • 00:29:24
    like it's unlimited work too cuz there's
  • 00:29:28
    there's no do more you can always do
  • 00:29:30
    more ideal the idealist is is always
  • 00:29:35
    longer than like or the the idealist
  • 00:29:39
    increases at a faster rate than we can
  • 00:29:42
    execute the ideas yeah yeah so we just
  • 00:29:44
    have to like keep on trimming down like
  • 00:29:46
    the yeah like how excited we are about
  • 00:29:49
    this idea no this not a five star
  • 00:29:51
    anymore it's a four star three star um
  • 00:29:54
    but like you know I think that's kind of
  • 00:29:56
    a strange place to to be in in in a way
  • 00:29:59
    cuz most workers can be like okay I'm
  • 00:30:02
    going to go in for the amount of hours I
  • 00:30:04
    need to be in I can maybe go a little
  • 00:30:05
    bit extra sometimes if I want to be like
  • 00:30:07
    a super good employee or whatever but
  • 00:30:10
    like you know I need to be protective
  • 00:30:11
    over my own personal time and we don't
  • 00:30:15
    it's it's harder for us to have that
  • 00:30:17
    mentality yeah because like the boss
  • 00:30:20
    Persona of us is like well why not just
  • 00:30:23
    work more I don't know and it's easier
  • 00:30:26
    to ask someone to work more when that's
  • 00:30:28
    someone is yourself yeah yeah like the
  • 00:30:32
    like the amount of time that I expect
  • 00:30:35
    myself to edit a video I would never ask
  • 00:30:37
    our editors to edit in that time never
  • 00:30:40
    no you
  • 00:30:42
    know yeah and what does that say I I
  • 00:30:45
    don't
  • 00:30:47
    know yeah yeah so I mean you know that's
  • 00:30:50
    something we've been struggling with but
  • 00:30:51
    we've made progress and we have and I
  • 00:30:54
    think you
  • 00:30:56
    know significant part of it is you know
  • 00:30:58
    we we've been having the editors that
  • 00:31:01
    have been editing our gaming channel
  • 00:31:04
    content for years now I think we've been
  • 00:31:06
    working with one of our editors for like
  • 00:31:07
    over three years maybe three years MH
  • 00:31:10
    and and that's that's awesome and
  • 00:31:12
    they've they've gotten to know us and
  • 00:31:13
    our style in this really organic way and
  • 00:31:16
    it was a easier transition to our main
  • 00:31:18
    Channel content which was uh awesome or
  • 00:31:21
    second Channel content so I think that
  • 00:31:23
    that's oh man that was that was a very
  • 00:31:26
    difficult transition to to make not for
  • 00:31:28
    the editors mhm and not not in any
  • 00:31:31
    relation to like their editing skills
  • 00:31:33
    but one reason we put off you know
  • 00:31:36
    getting editing help on the main channel
  • 00:31:38
    for so long is in order to do that you
  • 00:31:41
    have to you know x amount of weeks
  • 00:31:44
    however long oh yeah you want to give
  • 00:31:46
    your editors to edit you have to produce
  • 00:31:50
    a video when we were making videos every
  • 00:31:53
    other week it took that full those full
  • 00:31:56
    two weeks to do everything we needed to
  • 00:31:58
    do in those two weeks there was no time
  • 00:32:00
    to also film a video for like a month
  • 00:32:03
    from now yeah you know um and then doing
  • 00:32:07
    that consistently so we really I don't
  • 00:32:11
    fully know how we did it we just like by
  • 00:32:13
    sheer force of will were able to start
  • 00:32:16
    filming ahead there hard days there's
  • 00:32:18
    some hard days this is like around the
  • 00:32:19
    holidays last year is when we started um
  • 00:32:22
    prefilming things instead of just
  • 00:32:24
    filming the immediate next video mhm um
  • 00:32:29
    so we had to start like planning ahead
  • 00:32:31
    and filming those future things and
  • 00:32:33
    being strategic about a few videos we
  • 00:32:34
    picked that could actually be filmed
  • 00:32:37
    ahead in order to get that ball rolling
  • 00:32:39
    and then once we started getting editing
  • 00:32:41
    help then it did like after a while it
  • 00:32:44
    did start um the amount of time I was
  • 00:32:48
    saving by not editing like our time is
  • 00:32:51
    kind of like Collective there's some
  • 00:32:53
    tasks that are Caitlyn tasks and some
  • 00:32:54
    that are Evan tasks but there's also
  • 00:32:56
    like our joint time so freeing up me
  • 00:32:59
    from editing still freed up like our
  • 00:33:02
    together joint time to work on other
  • 00:33:04
    stuff and so now I do feel like we're at
  • 00:33:07
    a point where I don't feel nearly as
  • 00:33:10
    stressed about filming and editing
  • 00:33:12
    things like we're finally far enough
  • 00:33:16
    ahead that it's not that big of a deal
  • 00:33:19
    to be filming for the editors much
  • 00:33:21
    farther in advance yeah and I'm not sure
  • 00:33:24
    where we've shared this before I think
  • 00:33:25
    we've shared it somewhere but like one
  • 00:33:27
    of the biggest stressors about this is
  • 00:33:30
    we pre-sell spots and what that means is
  • 00:33:34
    like you know sponsor spots yeah so so
  • 00:33:37
    video spots and
  • 00:33:39
    um uh the great thing about that is like
  • 00:33:42
    we have
  • 00:33:43
    some you know we have some idea of our
  • 00:33:46
    our salary in a way you know what I mean
  • 00:33:49
    and like it's less negotiation with
  • 00:33:51
    sponsors for a full year yeah so it's
  • 00:33:53
    less of our time demand yeah we have a
  • 00:33:56
    few sponsors I'm sure you can guess they
  • 00:33:58
    are who we just sign multi-month
  • 00:34:01
    contracts and we fill up 6 months to a
  • 00:34:03
    year at a time leaving a couple open
  • 00:34:05
    spots for like if anything spontaneous
  • 00:34:08
    yeah pops up but I think um you know
  • 00:34:12
    because of that we have a set amount of
  • 00:34:15
    work for the year and we had for the
  • 00:34:18
    longest time been setting that too high
  • 00:34:20
    MH you know we had been pre-selling too
  • 00:34:23
    many spots which just sets a pace of
  • 00:34:26
    work that needs to get done that's like
  • 00:34:30
    was was just way too much that's true in
  • 00:34:32
    our defense every year that we pre-old
  • 00:34:36
    this we did try reducing it's just
  • 00:34:39
    either we wouldn't reduce enough or we
  • 00:34:42
    would start something else up so like we
  • 00:34:45
    reduced significantly but we started the
  • 00:34:48
    gaming channel you know and the podcast
  • 00:34:50
    the podcast or you know we reduced
  • 00:34:52
    significantly and then we started doing
  • 00:34:54
    other you know whatever it was um and so
  • 00:34:57
    it's it's um not
  • 00:35:00
    us purposefully or we we finally take on
  • 00:35:03
    those bigger projects that take so long
  • 00:35:05
    or we moved or we moved which takes a
  • 00:35:08
    lot of time yeah huge amount of time and
  • 00:35:10
    so like we have been trying actively to
  • 00:35:14
    um reduce what we're like in advance
  • 00:35:16
    committing to but it's hard to gauge you
  • 00:35:19
    know yeah but I think that like this you
  • 00:35:21
    know I think that I can't call it a full
  • 00:35:24
    success already but in 2022 we have
  • 00:35:28
    chosen a much more reasonable thing
  • 00:35:30
    that's allowed us to add back in spots
  • 00:35:34
    yeah you know like multiple times we've
  • 00:35:36
    like you know we we we committed to less
  • 00:35:38
    because I've always said we can always
  • 00:35:40
    add we can always add more spots more
  • 00:35:44
    spots more videos but taking away is is
  • 00:35:48
    so hard we we've never done it I think
  • 00:35:51
    we once something fell through once no
  • 00:35:54
    no we move when we moved we were able to
  • 00:35:57
    push things oh yeah we pushed um but
  • 00:35:59
    that we didn't actually take a spot away
  • 00:36:01
    we just like pushed everything by a
  • 00:36:04
    month mhm yeah um and then it like it
  • 00:36:07
    kind of hit a place where it couldn't be
  • 00:36:08
    pushed any F farther and then that was a
  • 00:36:10
    busy month yeah and then we did the same
  • 00:36:12
    thing when you got a pend decius we just
  • 00:36:14
    moved things but yeah we we have and had
  • 00:36:17
    to deal with the repercussions later we
  • 00:36:19
    the type of people who would like have a
  • 00:36:21
    hard time breaking commitments oh it's
  • 00:36:24
    like contract commitment contracts yeah
  • 00:36:25
    contracts cont can we had there are
  • 00:36:28
    clauses in there we could have canel
  • 00:36:30
    yeah I know but you know that's that's I
  • 00:36:32
    don't
  • 00:36:33
    know we don't want to do that yeah so
  • 00:36:37
    um uh I I don't fully know where I was
  • 00:36:40
    going with that yeah but just looking at
  • 00:36:42
    um you know us trying to make changes in
  • 00:36:45
    2022 and how so far it's it's been it's
  • 00:36:47
    been great it's been great that's why we
  • 00:36:49
    have been able to like see family more
  • 00:36:52
    and like work on the house more just in
  • 00:36:54
    these past few months and kind of like
  • 00:36:57
    just do the ideas we're most excited
  • 00:36:58
    about whether that's a main Channel or
  • 00:37:00
    if it's a second Channel cuz sometimes
  • 00:37:02
    what we really want to do is just a
  • 00:37:04
    second Channel video sometimes yeah it's
  • 00:37:06
    just like that's just like what we want
  • 00:37:07
    to do and it's great following and
  • 00:37:10
    following through with with what we just
  • 00:37:12
    really want to Doh um and and you know I
  • 00:37:16
    got to say sometimes the podcast wasn't
  • 00:37:19
    at the highest for the longest time I
  • 00:37:22
    mean do we want to talk about the
  • 00:37:24
    podcast I mean I I've like said this in
  • 00:37:27
    passing a few times but it's just
  • 00:37:29
    there's only so so many hours in the day
  • 00:37:32
    and um I think the main thing that has
  • 00:37:35
    increased has been our second Channel
  • 00:37:37
    stuff yep and um something else has to
  • 00:37:40
    go down so gaming went down a little bit
  • 00:37:44
    M went down a smidge and podcast went
  • 00:37:47
    down and part of that because we don't
  • 00:37:50
    there you know with Maine we can only
  • 00:37:54
    reduce the schedule like every 6 months
  • 00:37:56
    to a year yeah you know um with gaming
  • 00:38:02
    um I know not everyone watches on Twitch
  • 00:38:05
    a lot of people just watch on YouTube
  • 00:38:06
    but on Twitch we have subscribers and
  • 00:38:09
    they're like paying monthly you know
  • 00:38:13
    assuming that we're going to be
  • 00:38:14
    streaming like there there's like a
  • 00:38:16
    minimum amount we want to do yeah um and
  • 00:38:19
    also the gaming channel is really like
  • 00:38:22
    our break mhm yeah of the work stuff we
  • 00:38:24
    do it's our break like we we really
  • 00:38:27
    enjoy being able to play like a minimum
  • 00:38:29
    amount of games you any given week
  • 00:38:33
    where's the podcast um there's no
  • 00:38:36
    commitment to sponsors there's no like
  • 00:38:39
    um you know people paying a monthly fee
  • 00:38:42
    for it when I also think like I was
  • 00:38:44
    thinking about this a little bit earlier
  • 00:38:45
    I didn't discuss it with you so much but
  • 00:38:47
    I mean when I was looking at how many
  • 00:38:49
    videos we've made you know we've made
  • 00:38:54
    more supporter videos that um YouTube
  • 00:38:57
    members and patreon supporters um then
  • 00:39:01
    main Channel you know we we've made 220
  • 00:39:05
    supporter videos like and I think that a
  • 00:39:08
    lot of the life updates a lot of the
  • 00:39:12
    behind the- scenes on projects a lot of
  • 00:39:15
    that stuff it all goes into supporter
  • 00:39:18
    videos it all goes into supporter videos
  • 00:39:20
    and I think that that's why like when we
  • 00:39:22
    think about podcasts we need to come up
  • 00:39:25
    with something like bigger extra like
  • 00:39:28
    because we still want this to be good
  • 00:39:29
    content for you guys and or something
  • 00:39:32
    very like topical based yeah where
  • 00:39:35
    because we can't
  • 00:39:36
    just you know the stuff that we are
  • 00:39:39
    sharing you know with people on patreon
  • 00:39:42
    or YouTube members it kind of like loses
  • 00:39:46
    its specialness if we just share the
  • 00:39:48
    exact same stuff in the podcast yeah you
  • 00:39:51
    know yeah and also I mean it's it's kind
  • 00:39:53
    of nice with the the supporter video and
  • 00:39:57
    content like I I I'm just very casual
  • 00:40:01
    and relaxed about it for some reason
  • 00:40:04
    yeah we don't need to come up with like
  • 00:40:05
    a title a title in the thumbnail and
  • 00:40:08
    stuff like that it's like those are like
  • 00:40:11
    the super subscribers and and for some
  • 00:40:12
    reason I I don't know I don't feel as
  • 00:40:14
    much pressure yeah um on that side of
  • 00:40:17
    things and where where're like podcast I
  • 00:40:19
    still feel some of that pressure with a
  • 00:40:21
    good topic yeah sorry I mov my M my mic
  • 00:40:25
    away from my and maybe it's just because
  • 00:40:27
    like you know podcast that's like a
  • 00:40:29
    public facing number or something like
  • 00:40:31
    that or like I don't know or maybe I I
  • 00:40:35
    just I think it's more like um I think
  • 00:40:39
    it's more about we put a lot of the
  • 00:40:41
    random little life updates into a type
  • 00:40:45
    of content already and the two are
  • 00:40:48
    mutually exclusive mhm yeah you know
  • 00:40:51
    even like you know like we listen to um
  • 00:40:55
    some maker podcasts like we you know and
  • 00:40:58
    they talk about what they're making that
  • 00:41:00
    week every time I have this like curse
  • 00:41:02
    every time you you say some I want to
  • 00:41:04
    say
  • 00:41:07
    body it's like I like I I it happens all
  • 00:41:10
    the time thank you for resisting but
  • 00:41:12
    then explaining anyway yeah I just had
  • 00:41:14
    to like I just had to explain why I was
  • 00:41:15
    like struggling not to laugh okay we
  • 00:41:17
    listen to a lot of maker podcasts but
  • 00:41:19
    yeah and a common topic is like what are
  • 00:41:22
    you working on or like how' your project
  • 00:41:23
    go yeah we talk about that in in our um
  • 00:41:26
    after shows yeah but also I think we
  • 00:41:28
    like we write down all the things we
  • 00:41:30
    want to talk about in the after show and
  • 00:41:31
    we do it all there but I think another
  • 00:41:34
    difficulty of the podcast is um you know
  • 00:41:38
    a lot of podcasts are uh people who
  • 00:41:42
    don't live with each other that's true
  • 00:41:45
    so they can be like catch up life catch
  • 00:41:49
    up and just like kind of some of that
  • 00:41:51
    and I think that like you know with with
  • 00:41:54
    Caitlyn and I there's no secrets there's
  • 00:41:55
    nothing that we don't talk about which I
  • 00:41:58
    love um but you know if we sat down for
  • 00:42:03
    a podcast the only way we could kind of
  • 00:42:05
    share some of those conversations with
  • 00:42:06
    yall is to like rehash them it's hard
  • 00:42:10
    yeah you know what I mean because we've
  • 00:42:11
    already like talked about everything
  • 00:42:12
    yeah and it's it's it's a little bit
  • 00:42:13
    less like I don't
  • 00:42:16
    know not genuine it's like it's not
  • 00:42:20
    spontaneous because everything that we
  • 00:42:22
    want to talk about we've already talked
  • 00:42:24
    about
  • 00:42:25
    previously like just us
  • 00:42:28
    yeah yeah that's a good point so I think
  • 00:42:32
    that like you know I I'm super glad that
  • 00:42:35
    we have the podcast Channel um I'm I'm
  • 00:42:39
    really happy that we have all of our
  • 00:42:40
    past episodes and I love that we have it
  • 00:42:43
    for times where we want to talk in this
  • 00:42:46
    longer form with our our viewers and
  • 00:42:49
    supporters and everything like that um
  • 00:42:53
    uh and and I do enjoy this this is nice
  • 00:42:56
    this is nice I think that like if we
  • 00:42:58
    came up with like a like reoccurring
  • 00:43:00
    show concept or like you know which we
  • 00:43:03
    have done in the past but yeah um
  • 00:43:06
    something that was like they didn't like
  • 00:43:08
    take a ton of time to prep or something
  • 00:43:10
    like that
  • 00:43:12
    yeah I don't know I think that that the
  • 00:43:15
    future of the podcast isn't fully known
  • 00:43:18
    right now but I'm glad we have it and
  • 00:43:20
    you know I I certainly see us creating
  • 00:43:22
    more episodes in the future I'm just not
  • 00:43:24
    sure when I think it's
  • 00:43:27
    it's not going to be a regular schedule
  • 00:43:29
    it's going to be random yeah I think
  • 00:43:30
    it's just going to be random but look
  • 00:43:32
    we're doing one we're doing one we're
  • 00:43:34
    not congratul congratulations yes it's
  • 00:43:37
    not an update on our a big update on our
  • 00:43:39
    health or like yeah or moving moving
  • 00:43:43
    yeah which which the last I don't know
  • 00:43:45
    three were at least yeah it was um yeah
  • 00:43:50
    Co atitis moving moving moving and then
  • 00:43:54
    ice storm
  • 00:43:57
    you know you know just living a nice
  • 00:44:00
    quiet Easy Life yeah all maybe we should
  • 00:44:03
    do a Q&A or something yeah we can do a
  • 00:44:06
    Q&A oh we'll figure it out we'll figure
  • 00:44:08
    it out um but I think that brings us to
  • 00:44:10
    the end yeah of the podcast you know
  • 00:44:12
    what you know what's a weird thought
  • 00:44:14
    what's that we've been doing YouTube
  • 00:44:18
    longer than any of our past
  • 00:44:21
    jobs wow not like all of our past jobs
  • 00:44:24
    continued yeah or combined I
  • 00:44:27
    but like any individual past
  • 00:44:30
    job isn't that weird so if you if you're
  • 00:44:33
    still not feeling legit just think about
  • 00:44:36
    that yeah but before we go we need to do
  • 00:44:39
    thing of the
  • 00:44:44
    week yeah I have a few things of the
  • 00:44:47
    week I see that uh my first is going to
  • 00:44:50
    be an admission to I I've been using a
  • 00:44:54
    fanny pack like legit all the time all
  • 00:44:57
    the time you know it's just
  • 00:45:00
    like you just want to grab all of the
  • 00:45:02
    stuff that you want yeah you don't
  • 00:45:04
    always want all that stuff in your
  • 00:45:05
    pockets I know and like I you know when
  • 00:45:07
    when it's in Pockets you got to take it
  • 00:45:08
    out and put it back in yeah and it's not
  • 00:45:10
    just my you know phone or wallet or keys
  • 00:45:13
    I also want to bring like you know the
  • 00:45:15
    my
  • 00:45:16
    my water flavor packets your true lemon
  • 00:45:20
    packets some like you know uh nose
  • 00:45:22
    medication or like you know
  • 00:45:25
    some you allergy ey drops you know I I
  • 00:45:28
    have a few spare Band-Aids and stuff in
  • 00:45:30
    there too a little like um a pen knife I
  • 00:45:34
    should add the pen knife I'm going to
  • 00:45:37
    add that too to your thing of the week
  • 00:45:38
    list my thing of the week I just need to
  • 00:45:39
    think of some more things for me you
  • 00:45:41
    don't need to I'm just going to have I'm
  • 00:45:42
    just going to put a whole bunch here cuz
  • 00:45:43
    I'm not sure when the next podcast going
  • 00:45:45
    be so um my fanny pack was actually a
  • 00:45:48
    gift from your parents mom yeah from
  • 00:45:50
    your mom and it's an
  • 00:45:52
    REI Trail to waste pack
  • 00:45:58
    and how do you like wearing it more do
  • 00:45:59
    you like the cross body or the around
  • 00:46:02
    the waist it depends on the situation
  • 00:46:03
    sometimes I like around the waist
  • 00:46:04
    sometimes I like cross body but it's
  • 00:46:06
    it's good that it's you know it's a it's
  • 00:46:09
    not just a waist pack it's a cross body
  • 00:46:11
    pack too but it's it's a it's a good
  • 00:46:14
    it's a good size it's held up well the
  • 00:46:16
    zippers are good um so I I'll put it in
  • 00:46:19
    the description um but you know any any
  • 00:46:21
    fanny pack let's just's get more people
  • 00:46:22
    out there with fanny packs so don't feel
  • 00:46:24
    lonely fanny packs are cool again yeah
  • 00:46:27
    and uh the other one is going to be a
  • 00:46:29
    little uh Swiss army knife you know like
  • 00:46:33
    it's interesting I've always loved like
  • 00:46:36
    multi-tools and for the longest time I
  • 00:46:38
    had these big
  • 00:46:40
    multi-tools and then they got smaller
  • 00:46:42
    and then they got smaller and now it's
  • 00:46:44
    just like the little classic it has
  • 00:46:47
    scissors it has a knife it has a file
  • 00:46:51
    screwdriver has like a toothpick and
  • 00:46:54
    tweezers and stuff and like that's it
  • 00:46:57
    and honestly I haven't really missed any
  • 00:46:59
    of the bigger functions like that's
  • 00:47:02
    mainly all I need so I think I'm I'm
  • 00:47:05
    happy with that as my like main EDC item
  • 00:47:09
    wow yeah we'll see if you feel that way
  • 00:47:11
    around Christmas though and you're like
  • 00:47:13
    what do I
  • 00:47:14
    want for now for for for three or four
  • 00:47:18
    months it's it's been my favorite and
  • 00:47:21
    since Christmas Christmas when you got
  • 00:47:23
    it did you get two I got two yeah
  • 00:47:27
    um more things I'm just going to throw
  • 00:47:29
    them out there one in the back of my
  • 00:47:31
    head I'm trying to think to see if I
  • 00:47:32
    have any others um uh you know a lot of
  • 00:47:37
    uh a lot of people like noise generators
  • 00:47:40
    at night we use one that's a fan an
  • 00:47:43
    actual physical fan that spins around
  • 00:47:46
    and makes noise so I'll link that in the
  • 00:47:48
    description the Dome the Dome Dome um
  • 00:47:52
    and it's it's it's cool I don't know I
  • 00:47:54
    honestly like I'm like how did we sleep
  • 00:47:57
    before cuz now if we don't have it and
  • 00:47:58
    that is one of the risks people say you
  • 00:48:01
    kind of get addicted to it but I'm like
  • 00:48:03
    how did we both like live in dorms and
  • 00:48:06
    not have a noise maker I don't I don't
  • 00:48:08
    get it I feel like I I think we just
  • 00:48:10
    sleep worse
  • 00:48:12
    now we need we need we need a more
  • 00:48:14
    controlled we need like a better bed
  • 00:48:16
    better pillows a quiet environment I be
  • 00:48:19
    able to like some some melatonin you
  • 00:48:22
    know we need any any help we can get to
  • 00:48:24
    sleep I think so it's so necessary now
  • 00:48:28
    but as a backup sometimes like Caitlyn
  • 00:48:31
    said if we don't have our usual noise
  • 00:48:34
    physical noise maker which is kind of
  • 00:48:36
    big you need to plug it into a wall and
  • 00:48:37
    it actually uses a decent amount of you
  • 00:48:39
    know power to some degree so it's not
  • 00:48:42
    like you can run it off of USB or
  • 00:48:43
    anything because it's a motorized fan um
  • 00:48:47
    I I've been on to search for a backup I
  • 00:48:49
    downloaded so many apps and then I just
  • 00:48:52
    like sat there and listened to them to
  • 00:48:54
    see if I could find the moment where
  • 00:48:57
    they repeat cuz like I don't know about
  • 00:48:59
    you guys but I have the type of Mind
  • 00:49:01
    where I will search for a pattern
  • 00:49:03
    incessantly and I will try to find it
  • 00:49:06
    and I most of the time do yes and it
  • 00:49:09
    really annoys me so most noise generator
  • 00:49:12
    apps I can't use CU there's always a
  • 00:49:15
    loop yeah but I recently found out about
  • 00:49:19
    like frequency based noise generators
  • 00:49:22
    like white noise pink noise Brown noise
  • 00:49:24
    Brown noise is the best noise even
  • 00:49:26
    though it sounds weird I I just think of
  • 00:49:28
    the theart noise the noise it makes you
  • 00:49:30
    poop your pants yep but I found this
  • 00:49:33
    like brown noise generator that also has
  • 00:49:35
    RNG random number generator like random
  • 00:49:39
    noise generator built in so in addition
  • 00:49:42
    to this brown noise that it's making it
  • 00:49:45
    adds natural randomized variations into
  • 00:49:49
    it that are like algorithmic
  • 00:49:51
    mathematical based and I just love that
  • 00:49:54
    yeah and I think it's really cool random
  • 00:49:57
    it's actually random so there is no
  • 00:49:59
    repeat and I love it so I I'll put that
  • 00:50:02
    and that's the free alternative if you
  • 00:50:04
    don't want to buy the the fan or if you
  • 00:50:07
    want to travel with it yeah I was going
  • 00:50:09
    to say the portable alternative this
  • 00:50:11
    just on your phone this is on your phone
  • 00:50:12
    and I think it uses less power too and
  • 00:50:14
    everything so I think it's uh it's
  • 00:50:17
    pretty cool so those are all of my I
  • 00:50:19
    only have one thing and I I already
  • 00:50:22
    shared it during a stream cuz stream was
  • 00:50:24
    asking about thing of the week so I've
  • 00:50:25
    been trying Hey you can do another thing
  • 00:50:27
    of the week no that's lame that's
  • 00:50:29
    self-promotion that's lame well no no
  • 00:50:31
    they're not lame but it's self-promotion
  • 00:50:33
    Evan just pulled over our charms but we
  • 00:50:35
    don't even know when this is coming out
  • 00:50:36
    the charms are only available till the
  • 00:50:37
    end of March okay if you want a charm we
  • 00:50:40
    have gold charms we'll link to
  • 00:50:43
    that I'll hold them up okay we have a
  • 00:50:46
    make fail and awards are hard and then
  • 00:50:48
    Evan has a supervisor hugging a heart
  • 00:50:50
    yeah you might only have days left at
  • 00:50:52
    this point yeah yeah I wasn't going to
  • 00:50:54
    mention them CU they um are are not sold
  • 00:50:57
    after March um here's my thing of the
  • 00:51:01
    week I am someone you know how like if
  • 00:51:04
    you leave the house yeah and you don't
  • 00:51:05
    have your phone on you you're like oh my
  • 00:51:07
    gosh I feel naked I don't have my phone
  • 00:51:09
    I am like that if I don't have lip balm
  • 00:51:12
    I need something on my
  • 00:51:15
    [Music]
  • 00:51:16
    lips I like should I go for it I need
  • 00:51:20
    something on my lips at all times and if
  • 00:51:24
    I do and if I don't have it I start
  • 00:51:28
    getting like really anxious MH like I'm
  • 00:51:30
    just like so aware of how dry my lips
  • 00:51:32
    are like can you feel them chapping
  • 00:51:34
    right now yes I can and I want I'm about
  • 00:51:37
    to to use my thing of the week so I've
  • 00:51:40
    I've tried a bunch of different like
  • 00:51:41
    chapsticks and lip balms and everything
  • 00:51:43
    and my favorite thing is aquafor aquafer
  • 00:51:46
    aquafor I'm not sure if I'm saying it
  • 00:51:48
    right it's kind of like Vaseline but
  • 00:51:51
    better better I think it's different I
  • 00:51:54
    don't know if it's like slightly
  • 00:51:55
    different like proportions of things but
  • 00:51:56
    it's like kind of like Vaseline um it
  • 00:51:59
    stays on it's like the thing that stays
  • 00:52:01
    on the longest now I need it and now and
  • 00:52:04
    I used to just get like the big tub of
  • 00:52:05
    it and I would like transfer some to a
  • 00:52:08
    little smaller little you know portable
  • 00:52:10
    tub like you would have lip balm in but
  • 00:52:13
    Evan discovered there are
  • 00:52:16
    little little squeezy travel bottles
  • 00:52:19
    yeah block our faces little squeezy
  • 00:52:21
    travel bottles well you know I'm trying
  • 00:52:24
    to hold it up to the camera yeah
  • 00:52:27
    they're so good you have to get your
  • 00:52:29
    finger all sticky I have one in my fanny
  • 00:52:32
    pack yeah I have them everywhere now
  • 00:52:35
    they're just sprinkled throughout the
  • 00:52:37
    house they're so good MH having in the
  • 00:52:40
    travel pack is so much better than like
  • 00:52:43
    me trying to like scoop the stuff out of
  • 00:52:46
    the Big Tub into the little tub and then
  • 00:52:48
    like you know going in my finger they
  • 00:52:51
    last a long time yeah the little tubes
  • 00:52:53
    last a really long time so long yeah
  • 00:52:55
    yeah so
  • 00:52:57
    that's my thing of the week I was trying
  • 00:52:59
    to think if I could think of anything
  • 00:53:00
    else while you're were talking but um I
  • 00:53:03
    couldn't think of any other things but
  • 00:53:05
    this is a good one all right guys um
  • 00:53:08
    hope you're having a great day and we
  • 00:53:10
    look forward to seeing you in the next
  • 00:53:12
    video it probably won't be a podcast
  • 00:53:14
    though bye
  • 00:53:20
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