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At least 120 conflicts have emerged
between palm oil companies and communities
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across 17 provinces in
Indonesia in the last ten years.
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They are all related to ‘plasma’.
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But according to palm oil
industry group GAPKI,
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there are no conflicts driven by plasma.
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It seems to me, and according to
reports from (GAPKI) members,
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they have no problems with plasma.
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A two-year investigation by the
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BBC, The Gecko Project and Mongabay
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found that thousands
of Indonesian families
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could be losing billions
of rupiah every year,
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because palm oil companies
are failing to provide plasma
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in accordance with the law.
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You could say that the
oligarchs are getting stronger.
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Extreme capitalism is getting stronger.
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When the palm oil industry began
to rapidly grow in the 1980s,
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companies taking part in government
plantation schemes were encouraged
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to provide up to 80 percent of their
plantation for farmers as ‘plasma’.
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Over the next 25 years,
the situation gradually changed.
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By 2007, a new rule required
all palm companies
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to provide a much smaller area as plasma:
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only 20 percent of their total plantation.
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In the beginning, communities
were promised good things.
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For example, they would be given
plasma, land they could cultivate.
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The people gave up their land,
which was in the best areas.
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But the land they got back
was in a different location.
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And plasma is not developed fairly.
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It’s not strategically located,
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and they are not supported
fully by the companies,
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so that communities can
develop the plasma well.
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January 2017.
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The Suku Anak Dalam or Orang Rimba
from Tebing Tinggi village,
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burned a palm oil company’s office
and vandalised their property.
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We protested. We gathered
and came to PT Lonsum.
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We burned the [security post of] Lonsum.
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We wanted to demand our rights.
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We demanded our land.
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We wanted it back, our
land was taken by Lonsum.
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The following night,
the police arrived,
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raiding the homes of people they
thought were involved in the protest.
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Around 45 people were arrested, including Lina.
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After the Maghrib Prayer,
we were here in our room.
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The door was smashed.
Police came into our house,
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a lot of them. Seven officers
came into the room.
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There were five of us in
the room, and they took us.
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They arrested us right away.
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The community accused
PT London Sumatra, the company,
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of not delivering on a
promise to provide plasma.
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After we gave up 2,500 hectares
of land to the company,
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nothing was returned to us.
They took everything.
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The promise was a lie.
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Our investigation found
the same frustrations felt by
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Orang Rimba were experienced
by other communities.
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Using data from the Ministry of Agriculture,
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the BBC, The Gecko Project and Mongabay
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estimated that private palm
companies have failed to provide
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hundreds of thousands of
hectares of plasma since 2007,
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when it became a legal obligation.
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First, there is no firmness
from the government.
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If the government was firm,
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of course the
companies would follow.
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Second, at the end of the day,
these big companies...
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They are greedy. That’s why we
need to regulate with the law.
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The global palm oil industry
is worth $65 billion each year.
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Some of the profits
come from palm trees
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on land that should have
gone to communities as plasma,
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but instead has gone
to corporations.
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One oil palm company
brought promises
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of prosperity to the
Suku Anak Dalam.
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But more than two decades later,
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this is what they get.
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What are you searching for here?
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Sometimes we gather five kilos,
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ten kilos, of palm fruitlets.
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Now, in one day we only get a handful.
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We sell them each day
to feed our children.
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In 1995, London Sumatra approached
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the elders in the Orang Rimba village.
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In a scheme now called ‘plasma’,
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they would take 2,500
hectares of their ancestral land,
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and in return, the Orang Rimba
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would get 1,400 hectares back
planted with palm trees.
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PT Lonsum said they’re ready
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to uphold the rights of the people,
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and then we would
become partners.
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Now, London Sumatra’s
oil palm plantation
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spreads across thousands of hectares,
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with tall trees which
produce ‘golden fruits’.
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That’s what they call oil palm fruit,
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because of the high
prices it attracts.
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But the Orang Rimba
lost all of their land.
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I used to live around here,
on the land here.
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If I wanted to go to the river,
it was just there.
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This was where we lived,
back when I was still a child.
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For the last three generations,
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the Orang Rimba have
lived on other people’s land,
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dozens of kilometres away
from where Mat Yadi used to live.
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We left this place,
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because we were cast
out by the company.
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We have to live like this,
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constantly on the move like this.
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The Orang Rimba have protested since 2001,
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to demand the land promised as plasma.
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The peak was in 2017.
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There was a huge protest,
they burned the posts behind us here.
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There was an office, set alight
by the families of Suku Anak Dalam.
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Maybe because their emotions
were running high.
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In 2013, the conflict between Orang Rimba
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and London Sumatra
was mediated by legislators
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from the district
parliament in Musi Rawas.
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Two years later, the company
agreed to provide the plasma land.
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But the promise was not fulfilled.
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Then in 2017,
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the national parliament
gave an ultimatum:
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give back the Orang
Rimba’s ancestral land,
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or provide them with plasma.
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We were firm, we were tough,
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but until now it
hasn’t been done.
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They gave up 2,500 hectares,
then the dispute was over 1,400 hectares.
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Now they’re being offered 400,
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but even that’s not done.
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This heavy equipment will
be used to clear the land
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as part of the first
phase of 401 hectares.
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But the cost of developing the
plantation and acquiring the land,
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could be borne by the Orang Rimba.
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It will become their debt.
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PT PP London Sumatra Tbk is a
subsidiary of Indofood Agri Resources,
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owned by the Salim family,
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one of the wealthiest in Indonesia.
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The BBC, The Gecko Project
and Mongabay
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contacted representatives of
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Lonsum and Indofood Agri
Resources for an interview,
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but both companies
denied our request.
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What we asked for was,
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first, give the land back
to the Suku Anak Dalam,
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without any conditions.
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The second best path is
providing 20% plasma.
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But without being burdened
with all kinds of costs.
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Otherwise it could be a lifetime,
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maybe two or three generations
before they can pay it off.
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The absence of complete
and comprehensive data
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makes it impossible to
accurately assess problems
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on a national scale.
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But in Central Kalimantan
province alone,
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government data indicates
the plasma shortfall
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reaches 100,000 hectares -
three times the area of Surabaya.
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Central Kalimantan
accounts for just one-fifth
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of Indonesia’s corporate-run
oil palm plantations.
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We estimate that communities
in Central Kalimantan
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are losing more than $90 million,
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or 1.2 trillion rupiah, every year,
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because palm oil
companies aren’t meeting
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their legal obligations
to provide plasma.
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Meanwhile, our analysis of data
from the Ministry of Agriculture,
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which was shared with us in 2021
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and criticised as incomplete
by the National Audit Agency,
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indicates the national shortfall
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could be many times larger.
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Meanwhile on the ground,
conflicts continue to erupt.
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Another study released in 2021 found
that out of 150 land conflicts
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between communities
and oil palm companies
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across four major palm
oil producing provinces,
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57 percent related to plasma.
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Community members were arrested
in 42 percent of these conflicts,
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with 789 people arrested in total.
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Like what happened in
Buol Regency, for example,
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because the company
involved the police and army,
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the people were criminalised.
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The people give up their land,
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but only get a small
plantation in return.
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And they get nothing from it.
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So how can the people not be angry?
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It’s lucky if the people do not get mad.
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If the farmers still
have a lot of other land
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or a source of income,
it’s not a problem.
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The problem is,
they have nothing else.
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And for many of them,
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plasma is their only
hope to earn a living.
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Protests were not only carried out
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by communities that didn’t get plasma.
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Our research revealed that since 2010,
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62 palm companies have been accused of
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sharing limited profits from
plasma with communities
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and not being transparent about why.
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One of the reasons being
that it’s confidential.
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From South Sumatra,
I travelled to West Kalimantan.
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Here, a palm company is
said to have broken
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their promise to share the
profits from plasma with farmers.
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Some of the farmers there
ended up in prison
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after they protested.
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But then some of them
sued the company
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to get back their land.
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One of them is Rita Dihales.
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Let’s meet him.
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We put the banner here,
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at the border of the
land we gave up in 2009.
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In 2009, PT Palmdale
Agroasia Lestari Makmur
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held discussions about
a plasma partnership.
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The company said there will
be jobs and economic growth.
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The BBC also contacted
the company via phone
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and in writing to request their comments,
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but we received no response.
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The plasma scheme in Teluk Bakung
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used a model known as One Roof.
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In this model,
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the plantation is managed
entirely by the company.
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Land owners will receive a share
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when the plantation is profitable,
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on average from five to ten years
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after planting begins.
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There was nothing,
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not even a single rupiah.
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Because they
breached the agreement.
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They said there’s a bailout (advance),
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but I cannot take it
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because we were in
a legal battle with them.
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And the bailouts would just
become more debt to us.
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From cleaning the land, planting, plant care,
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they will add to our debt.
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If we took the bailout, more debt.
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When will it be over,
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we already have hundreds
of millions (of rupiah) of debt.
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After 2014.
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That’s when we felt that
we were nothing anymore.
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That’s when we came
to believe the company
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was not going to
deliver what it had said.
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In 2017, Rita Dihales single-handedly
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stopped a truck full of crops,
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belonging to Palmdale.
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For that, Rita was
imprisoned for six months
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on charges of confiscation and misconduct.
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Life is hard.
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I thought, all this time we are relying
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on the government of Kubu Raya,
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but it turned out we
couldn’t depend on them.
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From behind bars,
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Rita hit on the idea to sue Palmdale,
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with four other farmers.
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At the time,
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our friends wanted us
to join and we agreed.
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We would try to sue the company.
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Because they have
breached the agreement.
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They lied to us.
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In August 2021,
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the Supreme Court decided the case
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in favour of the farmers,
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holding that PT Palmdale
had reneged on
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its promise to share the
profits from plasma.
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Oh, you can say that
I was very happy,
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because I will not pass on my
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problems with the company.
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It stopped with me,
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I gave the land to them
and I got it back.
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So, my children and grandchildren
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will not inherit the same trouble
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that I have gone through.
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What is your plan with the land?
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After the decision is implemented,
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we will use the land
for our livelihood.
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We will use it to live.
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But in Teluk Bakung village,
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there are still more than 900 farmers
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locked into plasma
contracts with Palmdale.
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One of them is Laurensius Asia.
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They offered us a partnership scheme.
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For all the land we gave them,
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we’d get 30% back as plasma.
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With that 30%,
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the cost for establishing
the plantation
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will fall on us.
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Including for infrastructure
and other costs.
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That became our debt.
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We’ll make repayment
from the yields,
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once the plantation is productive.
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Financial data we obtained
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from the Teluk Bakung cooperative
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showed that by 2019 the debt
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had reached 262 billion rupiahs
[$18 million],
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or almost 93 million
rupiah per hectare.
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All of which have to
be paid by the farmers.
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Frustrated, they held
another protest in 2019.
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As a plasma farmer,
I have to fight for my rights.
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But in this context,
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we didn’t know what
we were allowed to do,
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and it turned out what
we did was a crime.
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We locked the doors.
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We forced (the company)
to stop any activities,
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and so I was put in
jail for ten months.
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We only wanted fairness
from the government.
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We live in Indonesia,
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the government should be protecting us.
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But the government commonly
takes the approach
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of mediation to resolve such conflicts.
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As small people,
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we also wanted to
do what Mr. Rita did,
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but are we capable?
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So, as small people,
if the local government
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does not help us in
demanding our rights,
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we feel that it will never happen.
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Well, we can’t meddle
because the partnership
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is between the communities
and the company.
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If the government takes legal action,
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or provides access to legal action…
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we have to be in the middle.
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There’s no way we can facilitate it.
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The community who feels aggrieved
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must pursue it through the courts.
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The national government appears
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to have been aware of
problems with plasma
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since at least 2019.
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A year before,
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236 advocacy organisations
and labour unions
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wrote an open letter to the
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president of Indonesia
and the European Union,
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accusing palm companies
of using plasma
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to take over community lands.
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In 2018,
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President Joko Widodo
released a moratorium
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on the issuance of new
oil palm plantation permits.
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A year later,
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President Jokowi urged his administration
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to expedite the process
of resolving land disputes,
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even though he didn’t specifically
mention plasma conflicts.
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Concessions that were given
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to private and state-owned companies,
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f there’s a village in the area,
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there’s a community,
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who have lived there for years,
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and they wanted to be a
part of the concession…
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Whoever has the concession,
give it to them.
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Give it to the community, the village,
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give them legal certainty.
I’m telling you,
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if the concession holder makes it difficult,
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take away the permit.
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But in many parts of Indonesia
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land disputes, including those
linked to plasma, go on.
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The moratorium halting new permits
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for oil palm plantations was not optimal.
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We contacted the Minister of Agriculture,
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Syahrul Yasin Limpo,
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and Minister of Environment and Forestry,
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Siti Nurbaya for interviews.
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Both did not respond to our request.
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Ten officials from
four different ministries
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were tasked by the president
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with implementing the moratorium,
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but they refused or did not respond
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to our interview requests.
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The intent of the presidential instruction
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was to improve governance
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and raise productivity.
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But unfortunately it did not go well.
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They created an instrument for improvement.
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But in practice on the
ground there was nothing.
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Four years after
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the presidential instruction was issued,
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the Ministry of Agrarian Affairs
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said the task force they created
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was still trying to get plasma data.
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It’s been a mess from the start.
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We are trying to tidy
up the [plasma] data.
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In the [2020] Job Creation Law,
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the existing obligations are strengthened.
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The functions of each ministry
must be made clearer.
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We need to draft the
implementing regulations.
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The will is there,
but we need time.
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But we are talking about
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agrarian reform in a broad sense,
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which has been a national strategic program
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for President Jokowi since 2015.
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Responding to our
questions via text message,
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the Ministry of Agriculture admitted
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that the compliance level
of palm companies is weak.
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In the last two years,
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the Competition
Commission, or KPPU,
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investigated ten cases
of companies suspected of
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controlling community
plasma plantations.
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Some have yet to provide [plasma].
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Some don’t even know
where the plasma is.
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Some made changes,
so this point was fulfilled.
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Some have financial reports,
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having started clearing
and preparing the land;
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some do not have any.
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Some only write down the budget.
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But where’s the logic?
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The government as a regulator,
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it has to be serious to
resolve the conflicts.
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So there have to be institutions
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or mechanisms that can do it.
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Most of the products we
buy from supermarkets
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or minimarkets everyday
contain palm oil.
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The selling of these products
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ranging from snacks and
ice cream to bath soaps -
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should also benefit communities,
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if palm companies in Indonesia
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follow the rules in providing plasma.
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Indofood Agri Resources,
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the parent company
of London Sumatra,
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which owns plantations
on Orang Rimba lands,
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supplies palm oil to
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Kellogg's,
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Johnson & Johnson
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and PZ Cussons.
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Meanwhile, palm oil from
Palmdale’s plantations
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has been purchased by a number
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of multinational companies,
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including Unilever, Danone, Reckitt,
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which owns the Dettol brand,
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and Mondelez,
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the maker of Cadbury
and Oreo products.
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We also found state
oil company Pertamina
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allegedly buying palm
oil from companies
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that did not provide
the required plasma.
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Reporter: There’s a plasma
cooperation that
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claims promises were
made by a company.
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But the promises
were never realised.
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The communities said
this is not fair.
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I am speaking on behalf
of GAPKI members.
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If that is so,
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maybe the companies
are not our members,
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I don’t know.
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One thing is for sure,
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we never have
any reports from
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GAPKI members about that.
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If the communities
have given up their land,
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and they asked for plasma
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but the companies did
not develop the plasma,
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I think they can sue.
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Especially if there
was a written contract.
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PT PP London Sumatra
Indonesia Tbk
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which operates in Tebing
Tinggi, South Sumatra,
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is listed as a GAPKI member.
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Meanwhile, PT Palmdale
Agroasia Lestari
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is not a GAPKI member.
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Reporter: If we found there
were GAPKI members
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who have problems
with plasma provision,
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what would you do?
00:25:46
I tell you what.
00:25:47
Give us the info,
which companies,
00:25:50
and we will
investigate internally.
00:25:54
We have to know what
the underlying problem is.
00:25:56
For example,
as I said earlier,
00:25:59
the legal obligation
came into effect in 2007
00:26:02
It did not exist before.
00:26:05
The reason they
didn’t build plasma is
00:26:08
because the area
is in a forest area
00:26:10
If it is so, we do
have such reports.
00:26:13
‘We cannot build plasma because
00:26:16
it is located in a forest area.’
00:26:20
If we push them to develop it,
00:26:23
the company will
get into trouble.
00:26:26
The explanation that there
00:26:28
isn’t enough land
for plasma
00:26:30
was rejected by the
palm farmers union.
00:26:34
Actually, what’s debatable
00:26:35
is where the 20%
should come from.
00:26:42
If we’re looking at
the 2007 regulation,
00:26:47
the Ministry of
Agriculture regulation,
00:26:51
a minimum of
20% of the area
00:26:57
should be allocated from
00:26:58
the land the companies use.
00:27:01
So, if the phrase is
00:27:04
‘from the total land used’
00:27:06
it has to be from within
00:27:08
the company’s licensed area.
00:27:10
Because companies
have rights to use
00:27:11
the land if they
have that licence.
00:27:17
Our investigation
team contacted
00:27:18
several multinational
consumer goods firms
00:27:21
whose public records show
00:27:24
they have bought palm oil
00:27:26
from Indofood Agri Resources,
00:27:28
and from companies
that bought palm oil
00:27:30
from a mill that
processed fruit
00:27:33
from Palmdale until 2020.
00:27:35
Unilever said it requires its suppliers
00:27:38
to follow national laws
00:27:40
and sustainability rules
00:27:42
and would consider
suspending purchases
00:27:45
from companies who
break the law.
00:27:47
Kellogg’s, Danone,
and Johnson & Johnson
00:27:50
said they had initiated
a grievance process
00:27:53
in response to our findings.
00:27:56
Mondelēz said they had
spoken to their partners
00:27:59
and experts to
00:28:01
“understand the plasma issues better”
00:28:03
and how their company
can handle the issue.
00:28:07
Reckitt and PZ Cussons
00:28:09
told us that in
addition to investigating
00:28:11
the cases we found
in this investigation,
00:28:14
they would take further steps
00:28:16
to find out whether their suppliers
00:28:18
had met their plasma obligations.
00:28:22
But activists say pressure
00:28:24
from consumer goods firms
00:28:26
might not be strong enough.
00:28:29
Public pressure is an
important component.
00:28:32
When this is published,
00:28:34
the hope is that the public
00:28:36
or the market will respond,
00:28:41
pressuring the palm oil companies
00:28:43
to resolve the issues.
00:28:46
The big homework for
00:28:47
consumer goods firms is how
00:28:49
they can monitor
down to the ground
00:28:53
and ensure their standards
are applied properly.
00:29:01
Because as far as they know,
00:29:03
they have bought
clean palm oil,
00:29:08
palm oil without problems.
00:29:12
But the facts
from the ground
00:29:14
show the palm oil they
buy does have problems.
00:29:18
The consequences
of the plasma,
00:29:21
which I call fake plasma,
00:29:25
is that farmers have lost a lot.
00:29:33
And it has become
a modus operandi
00:29:36
for land grabbing.
00:29:39
The victory of Rita Dihales
00:29:41
against a palm oil company
00:29:43
is an example of how
law enforcement
00:29:46
may be the only way forward.
00:29:47
for communities to regain
00:29:49
the rights to their land.
00:29:52
But to bring back
00:29:53
the initial purpose of plasma
00:29:55
as a tool to alleviate poverty
00:29:56
the government must be serious
00:29:58
in resolving the apparent
chaos in the plasma system.
00:30:01
Don’t let it happen again,
00:30:01
that communities
give up their land
00:30:03
but only companies profit.
00:30:05
In the future,
00:30:06
all companies everywhere
in Indonesia,
00:30:09
please change the
way you behave,
00:30:11
stop harming the little people.
00:30:15
Please change,
00:30:16
we have to believe that
00:30:18
this way of life will continue
00:30:19
for our children
and grandchildren.
