How to Treat the Root Cause of Psoriasis: The Gut Microbiome

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Sintesi

TLDRDr. Greenberg discusses psoriasis, emphasizing the importance of understanding its root causes, such as the connection to the gut microbiome. Various types of psoriasis exist, including plaque, inverse, and pustular psoriasis, each involving different triggers and biological responses. The gut microbiome influences the immune response connected to psoriasis, often rooted in conditions like leaky gut and dysbiosis. Conventional treatments, such as steroids and modern biologics that suppress specific immune pathways, are part of the current therapeutic landscape, but they often do not address the underlying causes. Emerging evidence points to the gut-skin connection where imbalance in gut bacteria can exacerbate psoriasis. Diagnostic tools like microbiome testing help practitioners customize patient care plans by pinpointing specific gut-related issues. Natural treatments and lifestyle adjustments, such as eliminating certain inflammatory foods, detoxifying the body, and using specific herbs have shown success in treating psoriasis by addressing its system-wide impact rather than merely suppressing symptoms. Dr. Greenberg references the efficacy of herbs like Indigo Naturalis and Scutellaria baicalensis in managing inflammatory pathways. The discussion is tied together by emphasizing a holistic and root-cause-oriented approach to managing autoimmune conditions like psoriasis.

Punti di forza

  • πŸ” Psoriasis is more than a skin condition; it's a systemic inflammatory disease.
  • 🧬 The gut microbiome plays a crucial role in affecting psoriasis symptoms.
  • πŸ’Š Conventional treatments focus on immune suppression but may not address root causes.
  • βœ… Natural treatments can target root causes like gut health and systemic toxins.
  • 🦠 Types of psoriasis include plaque, inverse, palmoplantar, guttate, and pustular.
  • 🧐 Emerging therapies are focusing on specific immune pathways involved in psoriasis.
  • 🌿 Natural remedies like herbs are used to manage inflammation linked to psoriasis.
  • 🍎 Diet changes, such as reducing gluten and alcohol, may help manage symptoms.
  • 🩺 Comprehensive testing helps pinpoint dysfunction in the gut that relates to skin health.
  • πŸ›‘οΈ Holistic and root-cause treatment approaches emphasize prevention and long-term relief.
  • πŸ“˜ Educational resources are available for healthcare professionals to explore functional dermatology treatments further.
  • πŸ—‚οΈ Gut-related findings include issues like leaky gut, dysbiosis, and candida overgrowth influencing psoriasis.

Linea temporale

  • 00:00:00 - 00:05:00

    Dr. Greenberg discusses the different types of psoriasis, emphasizing that the condition is not only a skin issue but a systemic inflammatory disease. Various forms of psoriasis affect different body areas, such as plaque psoriasis, inverse psoriasis, genital psoriasis, nail psoriasis, and scalp psoriasis. The talk highlights that psoriasis has multiple comorbidities, including psoriatic arthritis and cardiovascular disease, impacting various organ systems.

  • 00:05:00 - 00:10:00

    The talk elaborates on the pathology and evolution of psoriasis understanding. Initially thought to be a keratinocyte issue, psoriasis is now understood as an immunological disease. Dr. Greenberg explains the shift in treatment from methotrexate and UVB radiation to immunosuppressives like cyclosporine and then to targeted biologics addressing the TH1 and TH17 pathways since 2005, which are the current therapeutic focus.

  • 00:10:00 - 00:15:00

    Dr. Greenberg describes how T-cells, particularly TH17, are activated in psoriasis. He explains the role of dendritic cells in signaling T-cells and the influence of cytokines like IL-1, IL-6, IL-23, and TGF-beta. TH17 cells respond to extracellular bacteria and fungi at mucocutaneous sites such as skin, respiratory tract, and gut, leading to chronic inflammation prevalent in psoriasis. Regulatory cells are underactive in psoriasis, contributing to the inflammation.

  • 00:15:00 - 00:20:00

    Discusses conventional psoriasis treatments, including topical therapies, phototherapy, and systemic drugs like methotrexate and cyclosporine. Focus is on biologics targeting TNF-alpha, IL-17, and IL-23 pathways in controlling psoriasis, acknowledging their role in suppressing symptoms rather than addressing root causes. Talks about side effects and paradoxical reactions; TNF inhibitors can sometimes induce psoriasis.

  • 00:20:00 - 00:25:00

    Exploration of the gut-skin connection in psoriasis, highlighting the impact of gut microbiome on systemic inflammation. Discusses leaky gut syndrome where mucosal barriers degrade, leading to bacteria and endotoxins entering the bloodstream and causing systemic inflammation. Psoriatic patients often exhibit gut hyperpermeability and higher endotoxins, supporting the role of gut health in managing psoriasis.

  • 00:25:00 - 00:30:00

    The correlation between streptococcus infections and psoriasis is discussed. A history of strep throat can lead to guttate psoriasis. Tonsillectomy has shown improvements in psoriasis symptoms due to reducing sources of streptococcal infection. The role of mucocutaneous infections in driving Th17 inflammation in psoriasis is emphasized, using tonsil tissue studies as evidence.

  • 00:30:00 - 00:35:00

    Dr. Greenberg emphasizes the importance of treating the root cause of psoriasis through comprehensive gut microbiome assessment. He conducts tests to examine oral health, digestive function, and details the links between environmental toxins, microbiome dysbiosis, and psoriasis symptoms. He outlines strategies for diagnosing and addressing these areas to provide long-term relief from psoriasis.

  • 00:35:00 - 00:40:00

    Dr. Greenberg covers the role of the skin microbiome, specifically Malassezia yeast, in exacerbating psoriasis. The yeast's inflammatory impact on psoriatic skin is explored, suggesting that treatments targeting this could alleviate symptoms. He discusses naturopathic treatments, including the potential use of herbs like Indigo Naturalis and Skullcap to modulate the immune response, particularly TH17.

  • 00:40:00 - 00:45:00

    Diet and lifestyle impact on psoriasis are discussed, noting that weight management through a calorie-restricted diet is often recommended. Eliminating alcohol, gluten, and nightshades may benefit some but not all psoriasis patients. The inherent variability in how patients respond to dietary changes is noted, highlighting the complexity in directly correlating diet with psoriasis improvement.

  • 00:45:00 - 00:50:00

    Case studies illustrate personalized treatment approaches targeting gut dysbiosis and systemic inflammation. Patients underwent specific treatment plans involving probiotics, prebiotics, herbal antimicrobials, and elimination diets. Dr. Greenberg notes improvements after intervention with less reliance on steroids or pharmaceuticals, demonstrating the effectiveness of holistic management practices.

  • 00:50:00 - 00:59:29

    Dr. Greenberg concludes by promoting comprehensive gut health and personalized medicine in treating psoriasis and related skin conditions. He emphasizes using functional medicine labs to diagnose and treat underlying causes, and encourages practitioners to further educate themselves on integrative dermatology. He offers resources, courses, and clinical guidance for healthcare providers focusing on root cause dermatology.

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Video Domande e Risposte

  • What are the different types of psoriasis?

    The main types are plaque psoriasis, inverse psoriasis, palmoplantar psoriasis, guttate psoriasis, and pustular psoriasis.

  • What is the connection between psoriasis and the gut microbiome?

    Psoriasis can be linked to gut dysbiosis and leaky gut which cause systemic inflammation impacting skin health.

  • How does the immune system contribute to psoriasis?

    Psoriasis involves an overactive immune response, particularly with TH1 and TH17 cells, due to triggers like leaky gut and bacterial infections.

  • What conventional treatments are used for psoriasis?

    Treatments include topical steroids, phototherapy, and biologic drugs like TNF-alpha inhibitors and anti-IL-17/23 agents.

  • How can gut microbiome testing help in treating psoriasis?

    Gut microbiome testing helps identify dysbiosis or imbalance that may be driving psoriasis, allowing for targeted interventions.

  • What are some natural treatments for psoriasis mentioned in the video?

    Natural treatments include herbal remedies like Indigo Naturalis, Scutellaria baicalensis, zinc pyritheone shampoo, and dietary changes.

  • How does lifestyle affect psoriasis?

    Factors like diet, alcohol consumption, and body weight have been shown to influence the severity of psoriasis.

  • What is leaky gut and how does it affect psoriasis?

    Leaky gut is when the intestinal barrier becomes permeable allowing toxins like LPS into the bloodstream, which can trigger systemic inflammation such as in psoriasis.

  • Can diet play a role in managing psoriasis?

    Yes, eliminating specific foods like gluten, alcohol, and nightshades can help manage psoriasis in some patients.

  • Why is treating the root cause important in psoriasis therapy?

    Addressing the root cause, like gut imbalances and toxic exposure, can lead to significant improvement and prevention of psoriasis recurrence.

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    I am Dr Greenberg and today I'm going to
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    be talking about addressing the root
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    cause of psoriasis the gut microbiome
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    all right let's get started and let's do
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    a little overview of
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    psoriasis so first of all there are some
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    different types of psoriasis the most
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    common of course is plaque psoriasis
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    that affects up to 80% of people
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    suffering from psoriasis there's also
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    inverse psoriasis that affects the
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    intous zones so the axela the armpits
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    the groin areas like that studies are
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    maybe 25% but I that's usually more than
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    I see in my patients there's palmal pler
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    psoriasis which affects the palms of the
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    hand and the soles of the feet the
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    numbers are very broad on that anywhere
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    from 3 to
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    41% there's gate psoriasis which is like
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    teardrop psoriasis some of the research
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    I think is too low on it I've seen
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    statistics like 8% but I see it a lot in
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    my patients in concert with plaque
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    psoriasis autate psoriasis occurs a lot
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    on the back and the Torso though and
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    we'll be looking at some of that and
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    then there's pular psoriasis there's
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    sterile pules often affecting like the
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    palms of the hands and that affects 3%
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    and that is the most rare so let's look
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    at where psorasis occurs on the body it
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    can be all over the most common places
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    you're going to see are the extensor
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    surfaces so that would be the outside of
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    the elbow where the elbow extends and
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    then the tops of the knees where knees
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    extend but there's really other places
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    as well up to 60% of those with
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    psoriasis will get it on their scalp so
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    scalp psoriasis the genitals is a really
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    common occurrence up to 2third of people
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    who suffer from psoriasis at some point
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    are going to get it on their genitals so
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    I think it's a good question to actively
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    ask your psoriasis patients do you have
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    it in the genital region CU sometimes
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    patients are a little embarrassed and
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    they might not bring it up the belly
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    button is a super common one that people
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    don't think about but it shows up there
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    the back we said is a lot of times the
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    gate the face it can show up you know
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    really anywhere and then the hands Feet
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    Nails you'll want to check in there nail
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    changes can occur in up to 50% of people
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    and it can affect the hands or feet of
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    about you know maybe 15% of people who
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    suffer from psoriasis so one thing
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    that's really important to keep in mind
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    is that psoriasis is not just a skin
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    condition it is a systemic inflammatory
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    disease and there are numerous
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    comorbidities associated with psoriasis
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    the most common one I think people know
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    and think of is psoriatic arthritis so
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    you definitely want to check in with
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    your psoriasis patients on their joints
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    cardiovascular disease has gotten a lot
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    of attention in the past few years and
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    we know now that psoriasis patients are
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    at increased risk of cardiovascular
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    disease so you're definitely going to
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    want to keep tabs and check in on that
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    with your psoriasis patient but as you
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    can see there are so many cor
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    comorbidities associated with psoriasis
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    these are all statistically validated
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    and they really cover you know every
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    organ system so renal dis disease cancer
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    lymphoma non-alcoholic fatty liver COPD
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    sleep apnea autoimmune diseases obesity
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    psychiatric diseases so increased rates
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    of things like depression and anxiety
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    and again the reason why we see all of
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    this in concert with sasis is that
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    psoriasis is not just a skin condition
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    it is a systemic inflammatory disease so
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    let's talk about the pathology of
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    psoriasis and our understanding of it
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    and how it's evolved throughout the
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    years so before the 80s early on we
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    could see the psoriatic plaques and we
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    thought oh this is a disease of
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    keratinocytic sites are skin cells and
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    they over proliferate at a very fast
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    rate and so we saw the plaques and
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    thought skin problem let's put it in the
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    dermatologist bucket and we did
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    therapies like methotraxate and UVB
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    radiation and
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    retinoids but then in the 1980s we
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    realized no there's a lot more to this
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    this is more of immunologic disease and
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    we tried therapies like cyclosporin
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    cyclosporin is an immunosuppress it we
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    give to organ transplant patients to try
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    to suppress their immune system so that
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    they don't reject their organs after
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    transplants spray serious drugs starting
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    in 1990 we realized that there was this
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    T1 mediated pathway T helper cell one
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    and so we started using drugs like tnf
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    alpha blockers but then starting in 2005
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    we realized oh there's this very huge 17
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    Isle 23 component those are cyto because
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    it's a th17 mediated disease so we
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    started getting much more targeted
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    biologic therapies and that's a lot of
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    where we are today so you'll see like
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    anti 17 receptor blockers you know anti
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    23 I 17 blockers and these are those
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    injectable biologics that uh we give to
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    patients so let's take a look at the
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    immune system and look at these t-
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    helper cells and why would the body be
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    creating a Cascade of th1 cells or th17
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    cells and to do that let's go back to
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    how we create a t- cell so when the body
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    first forms a t- cell it is called a
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    naive t- cell because it needs
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    information from the body where is the
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    problem what is the problem what C
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    helper cell do you need me to become in
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    order to go fight that problem and where
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    it gets the information from our
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    dendritic cells dendritic cells are like
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    information passing cells and we have
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    dendritic cells in all of our organ
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    systems that interface with the outside
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    world what do I mean by outside world
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    well our skin of course right our Skin's
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    whole job is to interface with outside
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    world and so that's one big uh area with
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    dendritic cells our respiratory track
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    what's the outside world well the air of
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    course so I just took a big breath in
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    that air used to be outside I brought it
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    inside so our our whole respiratory
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    track deals with outside world and of
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    course our gastrointestinal tract
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    because every time we eat something or
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    drink something or even swallow our
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    saliva we are bringing outside world
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    inside the body so all of these organ
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    systems are going to have dendritic
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    cells and are going to pass
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    information now what are the different
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    Pathways and how do they occur well they
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    get activated via different inflammatory
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    cyto kindes so if we have I2 and
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    interfer on gamma that is going to take
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    that activated t- cell and turn it into
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    a th1 cell and the th1 cell is going to
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    produce interferon gamma and tnf Alpha
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    now why would we be going down this
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    pathway creating a th1 cell well
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    intracellular bacteria viruses and
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    protozoa this is the body's response is
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    to fight it with a th1 path th2 pathway
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    incidentally is more in the allergic
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    pathway so this is like what we see in
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    eczema but we don't see that at all in
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    psoriasis the th17 pathway gets
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    activated by i1 beta I 6 I 23 and TGF
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    beta via the stat 3 pathway we're going
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    to create a th17 cell and that is going
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    to create Isle 17 AF F and Isle 22 and
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    the reason why the body would be
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    creating t17 cells is Du to
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    extracellular bacteria and fungi at
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    mucocutaneous sites what is a
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    mucocutaneous sites well sites that
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    produce mucus so the three sites we just
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    talked about our skin our respiratory
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    tract and our gut I think we all have
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    gotten a cold and started producing a
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    lot of mucus so we know that's a mu
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    mucos mucocutaneous site and our gut has
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    a thick mucosal layer as our entire GI
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    tract is a mucco cutaneous site so if we
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    get a bacterial or FAL infection there
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    we're going to trigger a th7 pathway
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    then there's also th22 cells they are
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    involved in any tissue inflammation so
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    those AR specific to psoriasis but uh we
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    will see th22 involved in psoriatic
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    tissue inflammation and then of course
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    the t- r cells are the regulatory t-
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    cells that help calm inflammation and so
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    they're under activated in psoriasis
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    that they will help engage in immune
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    regulation and tolerance in the body so
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    basically psoriasis we saw we have too
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    much th1 too much th17 not enough t-ag
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    all right let's look at some
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    conventional treatments that are used in
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    psoriasis so there's a lot of topicals
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    like a lot of Derm conditions will start
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    out with topical steroids kind of mid
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    and then High potency tarbase therapy
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    there's phototherapy so UVB radiation
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    vitamin D analog like calip petrine and
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    topical retinoids like tootin as we
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    discussed a little bit for systemics the
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    the kind of older treatments are things
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    like Methotrexate and cyclosporin those
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    really aren't used as much anymore now
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    the kind of first step in psoriasis
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    therapy is the anti-tnf alpha agents so
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    something like Humera or
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    adalimumab and adal liab has been been
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    the bestselling drug in the world since
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    2012 they had over $21 billion in sales
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    in 2022 it's kind of an astounding
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    number this is not just for psoriasis
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    it's for autoimmune and in inflammatory
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    issues but it just tells you how much
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    inflammation there is going on in our
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    society that the number one drug is an
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    anti-tnf alpha drug and then we move on
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    to these kind of newer drugs that are
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    now turning into the Cornerstone
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    therapies for psoriasis the anti 17 and
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    anti- 23 and an is 12 agents there's a
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    lot of them and they are more narrow in
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    scope and they can do a pretty good job
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    of suppressing the psoriasis but there
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    it's just that word right they're just
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    suppressing it it's not treating the
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    root cause at all there's a lot of side
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    effects with tnf Alpha Inhibitors there
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    can be skin rashes positive Ana tighters
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    antibody development to the drug that we
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    need to stop it and you can also get
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    this kind of paradoxical reaction where
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    giving someone a tnf alpha inhibitor for
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    another disease like let's say they have
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    Crohn's disease can actually induce
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    psoriasis and I have seen this when I
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    did receptor ship in medical school at a
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    children's pediatric clinic in a
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    hospital we would see pediatric patients
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    there was a 12-year-old girl who had
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    been given at before her Cron's disease
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    and then as a result she developed
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    psoriasis now remember this is a drug we
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    used to treat psoriasis so it's what we
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    call paradoxical reaction we really
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    don't know why that happens we'll talk
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    about something called pzy scores
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    psoriasis area and severity index in
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    clinical trials if you hear pzy 50 that
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    means that there was at least a 50%
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    Improvement in the score from the
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    Baseline pazi 75 means 75% Improvement
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    or clearance pzy 90 you're at 90%
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    clearance and aasi 100 is 100% clear
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    just as an example to show you the
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    potency of these drugs and how much they
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    do suppress the immune system this is a
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    drug called bismabenzene
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    of people went clear now usually they
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    have to stay on the drug otherwise it
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    comes back and here's Adverse Events
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    from another drug called sey kinab so
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    infection happens in 29 to 48% right
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    it's an immune suppressant and naso
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    fitis at 11 to 12% so there's a lot of
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    side effects from these drugs when we're
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    suppressing the immune system there's a
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    newer drug for plaque psoriasis newer in
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    that in December 21 the FDA approved a
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    promol astero Tesla REM moderat severe
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    plaque psoriasis previously it had only
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    been cleared for psoriatic arthritis
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    it's a inhibitor of phosphodiesterase SP
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    and there are side effects like diarrhea
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    nausea upper respiratory tract infection
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    tension headache and headache but the
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    kind of interesting breakthrough for
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    this is that it's a pill because all the
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    other ones are injectables and and not
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    everyone obviously wants to do an
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    injectable all right let's look at
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    psoriasis and how there can be a gut
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    skin connection and how pathogens in our
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    system can be driving
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    psoriasis so first let's talk about the
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    gut microbiome broadly an average adult
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    human has 3 to 5 pounds of microbes
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    living in their gut we don't just house
  • 00:12:45
    them for free we feed them for free as
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    well I think that's a pretty astounding
  • 00:12:49
    number it's like a hand weight that we
  • 00:12:51
    you know house and feed every day so why
  • 00:12:53
    do we have gut microbes what do we get
  • 00:12:55
    out of this deal well of course we can't
  • 00:12:57
    survive without them they may think that
  • 00:12:59
    we need they cow out pathogenic microbes
  • 00:13:02
    they help maintain a healthy ecosystem
  • 00:13:03
    in the gut and we learned that they
  • 00:13:06
    really are hugely impactful on our
  • 00:13:08
    immune system and keeping things calm so
  • 00:13:12
    let's look at leaky gut I think the
  • 00:13:14
    easiest thing with understanding what
  • 00:13:15
    leaky gut is is to start with a healthy
  • 00:13:17
    gut so we see a chart of a healthy gut
  • 00:13:20
    and it's a cross-section of the small
  • 00:13:22
    intestine and there's some different
  • 00:13:23
    sections so up top we have the Lumen the
  • 00:13:26
    Lumen is the ho so you know if you
  • 00:13:29
    swallowed a little plastic ping pong
  • 00:13:30
    Bowl it might you might just poop it out
  • 00:13:33
    and so it's just traveling through the
  • 00:13:34
    hole from the mouth to the anus and
  • 00:13:36
    that's where the Lumen is in the body
  • 00:13:38
    it's like that Hol tube that's where
  • 00:13:40
    food ends up going to be digested and
  • 00:13:43
    where our most of our microbes live
  • 00:13:46
    underneath that we have that strong
  • 00:13:47
    mucosal barrier of course we talked
  • 00:13:49
    about the gut as having you know it's a
  • 00:13:52
    mucocutaneous sight so there's this
  • 00:13:54
    strong mucosal barrier we have organisms
  • 00:13:56
    in our gut bacteria that help maintain
  • 00:13:58
    it like acroman copila fical bacterium
  • 00:14:02
    presi living under this protected mucus
  • 00:14:05
    layer is the cells of our intestines and
  • 00:14:07
    they have tight junctions to prevent
  • 00:14:09
    things from getting through as well and
  • 00:14:12
    then underneath that we have the
  • 00:14:13
    bloodstream and that makes a lot of
  • 00:14:15
    sense because the whole point of eating
  • 00:14:17
    is we need to digest our food extract
  • 00:14:19
    nutrients and get those nutrients into
  • 00:14:21
    our bloodstream the bloodstream is the
  • 00:14:23
    super highway to every cell in the body
  • 00:14:25
    and it's going to take it out to you
  • 00:14:27
    know from the hair in our head to our
  • 00:14:29
    ketonal everything in between needs
  • 00:14:31
    those nutrients and in a healthy gut we
  • 00:14:33
    can see that the immune cells so these
  • 00:14:35
    would be dendritic cells are very calm
  • 00:14:38
    they're not active because nothing
  • 00:14:39
    unwanted is getting into the bloodstream
  • 00:14:42
    we have a mucosal barrier and then we
  • 00:14:43
    have tight junctions and there's at
  • 00:14:45
    least two layers of barrier so nutrients
  • 00:14:48
    can get through into the bloodstream we
  • 00:14:50
    want that but you know unwanted bacteria
  • 00:14:53
    or other organisms cannot get through in
  • 00:14:55
    a healthy gut if we look at the leaky
  • 00:14:57
    gut side we're seeing a a different
  • 00:14:59
    picture and one of the main problems we
  • 00:15:01
    see is this degradation of the mucosal
  • 00:15:03
    layer and that's a problem because once
  • 00:15:06
    the mucosal layer is gone the cells of
  • 00:15:08
    our intestines are open and exposed to
  • 00:15:11
    the contents in the Lumen they can't
  • 00:15:13
    really survive well like that so many
  • 00:15:15
    become inflamed and degraded and they
  • 00:15:19
    can't hold their tight junctions and
  • 00:15:21
    what we see is an open pathway into the
  • 00:15:23
    bloodstream of unwanted things we see
  • 00:15:27
    LPS that stands for a lipo
  • 00:15:29
    polysaccharide or endotoxins and there's
  • 00:15:31
    many unwanted bacteria that are LPS or
  • 00:15:35
    endotoxin producers and we can see once
  • 00:15:37
    LPS gets in the dendritic cells get
  • 00:15:40
    excited and activated they grab that LPS
  • 00:15:43
    and they're going to show it to the
  • 00:15:44
    immune system and say hey we have a
  • 00:15:47
    problem here and what is the body's
  • 00:15:49
    response to problems it's inflammation
  • 00:15:52
    and so we see a kickoff of inflammatory
  • 00:15:55
    cyto kindes I 6 tnf Alpha and I 1 beta
  • 00:15:58
    if we think back to that Immunology
  • 00:16:00
    slide these are the cyto kindes that are
  • 00:16:02
    going to kick off th17 cells and where
  • 00:16:05
    are we we are at a mucco cutaneous site
  • 00:16:08
    so we are going to drive production of
  • 00:16:09
    th17 cells again the main player in
  • 00:16:12
    psoriasis if we have that microbiome
  • 00:16:14
    dysfunction if we have a leaky gut and
  • 00:16:16
    indeed the research supports that
  • 00:16:19
    psoriatic patients have been shown to
  • 00:16:20
    have gut
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    hyperpermeability hyperpermeability
  • 00:16:24
    means leaky gut there's some
  • 00:16:25
    permeability right again we want
  • 00:16:27
    nutrients to get through but we don't
  • 00:16:28
    want want it to be a leaky gut and
  • 00:16:31
    talking about those High serum levels of
  • 00:16:34
    endotoxins like LPS are found in
  • 00:16:37
    psoriatic patients and they've found
  • 00:16:39
    that circulating LPS leads to an
  • 00:16:41
    increase in cyclic GMP levels within the
  • 00:16:44
    skin cells and this dramatically
  • 00:16:47
    increases the rate of
  • 00:16:52
    keratinocytic was a problem of
  • 00:16:57
    keratinocytes we did it know what was
  • 00:16:59
    causing it well we know now that LPS in
  • 00:17:02
    the blood via a leaky gut can drive this
  • 00:17:05
    process in DNA of gut microbial origin
  • 00:17:09
    has been isolated in the patients of
  • 00:17:11
    blood with active psoriasis as well we
  • 00:17:14
    also see fungal problems so there are
  • 00:17:16
    higher rates of candida colonization in
  • 00:17:19
    psoriasis patients we find it in the
  • 00:17:21
    saliva in their feces and on their skin
  • 00:17:24
    and we see generally when we look at the
  • 00:17:27
    research of the G croos orasis patients
  • 00:17:30
    we do see lower levels of beneficial Gat
  • 00:17:32
    Flora so lower levels of things like
  • 00:17:35
    lactobacillus bifidobacteria the Cal
  • 00:17:38
    bacterium presi and acran
  • 00:17:40
    copil those last two we talked about in
  • 00:17:43
    helping maintain the gut mucosal barrier
  • 00:17:46
    when we see higher levels of pathogenic
  • 00:17:48
    bacteria things like eoli KSAL and
  • 00:17:50
    pneumonia hpylori
  • 00:17:52
    interus Fales and an organism called
  • 00:17:55
    streptococus penes strep and we to be
  • 00:17:59
    talking about strep and how it is
  • 00:18:01
    connected we also see a correlation of
  • 00:18:04
    GI diseases with psoriasis it can be IBD
  • 00:18:07
    inflammatory bowel disease like ulcer to
  • 00:18:10
    colitis or Crohn's but also sibo and
  • 00:18:12
    celiac disease so there is this very
  • 00:18:15
    interesting strep psoriasis connection
  • 00:18:18
    we know that a person getting strep
  • 00:18:20
    throat can trigger an outbreak of gate
  • 00:18:22
    psoriasis and I've seen this happen in
  • 00:18:24
    patients patients i' say that I'm
  • 00:18:26
    treating for something entirely
  • 00:18:27
    different like acne and suddenly they
  • 00:18:29
    get strep throat and they're contacting
  • 00:18:31
    me I'm hounding this rash I don't know
  • 00:18:33
    what this is and it's guate psoriasis
  • 00:18:36
    that they've never had before strepto
  • 00:18:38
    though can also make plaque psoriasis
  • 00:18:40
    worse and interestingly we've known that
  • 00:18:44
    having a ton sectomy can help improve
  • 00:18:46
    psoriasis so if we just chop off the
  • 00:18:48
    tonsils of people with psoriasis that
  • 00:18:50
    seems to help them this was one
  • 00:18:53
    randomized controlled study of 15
  • 00:18:55
    psoriasis patients who underwent
  • 00:18:57
    tonsilectomy and 87% 13 out of 15 of
  • 00:19:01
    them saw an improvement of their
  • 00:19:02
    psoriasis in rates that range from 30 to
  • 00:19:06
    90% And even patients who report that
  • 00:19:09
    they've never had strep throat they will
  • 00:19:12
    have a humoral response an anti strep
  • 00:19:15
    IGA which shows that they probably did
  • 00:19:18
    have it and as it turns out the
  • 00:19:22
    strongest environmental Factor that's
  • 00:19:23
    linked to Onset and flares in psorisis
  • 00:19:25
    that we know of is strap in
  • 00:19:28
    interestingly if we go back to those
  • 00:19:30
    studies where they removed the tonsils
  • 00:19:32
    of psoriasis patients they did biopsies
  • 00:19:35
    and what they found was extracellular
  • 00:19:38
    and intracellular biofilms from group a
  • 00:19:41
    strep in the tonsilectomy tissue and so
  • 00:19:44
    what they think is happening is that the
  • 00:19:46
    immune system can't penetrate the
  • 00:19:48
    biofilms nor can antibiotics and so
  • 00:19:51
    there's this kind of low grade infection
  • 00:19:53
    of strap in the tonsils a mucocutaneous
  • 00:19:56
    site driving th17 and that by cutting
  • 00:19:59
    out the tonsil tissue it's at least
  • 00:20:01
    elevated this driver now I'm not
  • 00:20:04
    recommending you know that we chop off
  • 00:20:06
    the tonsils of our psoriasis patients
  • 00:20:08
    but just so that we can really see the
  • 00:20:09
    effect of th17 drivers from let's say a
  • 00:20:14
    bacterial cause at a mucocutaneous site
  • 00:20:17
    it's very interesting so for me for my
  • 00:20:20
    patients I really want to get down and
  • 00:20:22
    treat the root cause of this problem and
  • 00:20:25
    so I do got microbiome testing on all of
  • 00:20:27
    my patients so we're look at some case
  • 00:20:29
    studies of how I put this all together I
  • 00:20:32
    want to see what is going on in their
  • 00:20:33
    gut I need to assess their microbiome
  • 00:20:36
    for sure and see what could be happening
  • 00:20:38
    at this mucco cutaneous site to drive it
  • 00:20:41
    but I also need to assess their
  • 00:20:43
    digestive function and I start with
  • 00:20:45
    their oral health you want to ask your
  • 00:20:47
    patients about their oral health do they
  • 00:20:49
    floss their teeth how often do they see
  • 00:20:51
    the debest how often or their root
  • 00:20:53
    canals this is a mucocutaneous site and
  • 00:20:56
    if there's a lot of dental disease this
  • 00:20:58
    is going to be driving a process in your
  • 00:21:00
    psoriasis patients is also the start of
  • 00:21:03
    our gut microbiome we swallow about
  • 00:21:06
    2,000 times a day so whatever is going
  • 00:21:09
    on in the mouth it's it's going to
  • 00:21:10
    inflame the system and affect the rest
  • 00:21:12
    of the GI tract as well so for me
  • 00:21:15
    putting together that gut skin
  • 00:21:16
    connection we know that gut dpos is a
  • 00:21:19
    driver of systemic inflammation right
  • 00:21:22
    and one way we saw is that leaky gut and
  • 00:21:24
    we know that systemic inflammation is a
  • 00:21:27
    driver of chronic disease like psoriasis
  • 00:21:30
    we said at the beginning psoriasis is
  • 00:21:32
    not only a skin disease is is a systemic
  • 00:21:34
    inflammatory disease and this is how we
  • 00:21:37
    see that picture coming together so we
  • 00:21:39
    have to test and treat the gut now when
  • 00:21:41
    it comes to these you know kind of
  • 00:21:43
    autoimmune plast diseases like psoriasis
  • 00:21:47
    or things like alopecia
  • 00:21:48
    Arata there's two buckets for me that I
  • 00:21:51
    need to address I definitely need to
  • 00:21:52
    address the gut dysbiosis and I do that
  • 00:21:55
    with the stool and the test but I'll
  • 00:21:57
    also need to to address the fact that
  • 00:22:00
    there's probably a toxic exposure
  • 00:22:02
    somewhere and that can be anything from
  • 00:22:05
    heavy metals to environmental toxins in
  • 00:22:07
    water you know or pesticides into mot
  • 00:22:10
    toxins you know fungal toxins mot toxins
  • 00:22:13
    are produced by mold often in water
  • 00:22:15
    damaged buildings and a lot of us live
  • 00:22:18
    in homes that have been affected and
  • 00:22:20
    have mol and micro toxins and don't know
  • 00:22:22
    it but these cases are like peel the
  • 00:22:25
    onion cases is is how I like to call
  • 00:22:28
    them because sometimes you know we need
  • 00:22:30
    to do multiple testing and kind a really
  • 00:22:33
    good clinical history we need to peel
  • 00:22:35
    back the layers of the onion to figure
  • 00:22:37
    out what are all these drivers that are
  • 00:22:39
    driving the th17 and the th1 dysfunction
  • 00:22:43
    we have to clean them up one by one in
  • 00:22:45
    order to clear our patients of psoriasis
  • 00:22:48
    and educate them on what these are so
  • 00:22:50
    that they can Ste clear of them and keep
  • 00:22:52
    their psoriasis at Bay so if you're on
  • 00:22:55
    the Rupa Health Channel there's a good
  • 00:22:57
    chance that you're already doing
  • 00:22:59
    functional medicine testing but if
  • 00:23:00
    you're new to this site and you're not
  • 00:23:02
    sure what they are there are so many
  • 00:23:04
    different types of functional medicine
  • 00:23:06
    tests for example the stool test I
  • 00:23:08
    mentioned I like the GI map stool test
  • 00:23:11
    that's the one I run at every patient
  • 00:23:13
    there's oats or organic acid testing but
  • 00:23:16
    I also do as I said the mot toxin
  • 00:23:18
    testing for mot toxins produced by mold
  • 00:23:21
    and environmental testing I also do like
  • 00:23:23
    Dutch hormone testing so there's lots of
  • 00:23:26
    these tests that we can use and there's
  • 00:23:28
    different areas of the body that they
  • 00:23:30
    sample there's urine stool blood saliva
  • 00:23:33
    breath DNA and we can get a lot of
  • 00:23:36
    information by using these tests most
  • 00:23:38
    people are familiar with the stool tests
  • 00:23:40
    I do love the stool tests they give me a
  • 00:23:42
    ton of information on bacteria and
  • 00:23:44
    digestion I also like the oat because it
  • 00:23:47
    gives me some more yeast and fungal
  • 00:23:48
    markers and potential information on
  • 00:23:51
    like indicators of detoxification and I
  • 00:23:53
    use these Labs as my road map I know
  • 00:23:55
    where we're starting this patient has a
  • 00:23:58
    lot of psoriasis that I need to clean up
  • 00:24:00
    and once I get the lab results back you
  • 00:24:02
    know then I can start to see where is
  • 00:24:04
    the dysfunction and then I make the road
  • 00:24:06
    map to clean it up all right let's look
  • 00:24:07
    at the skin microbiome in psoriasis and
  • 00:24:11
    we're going to talk about an organism
  • 00:24:12
    called malesia yeast and if you haven't
  • 00:24:15
    heard of malesia I do have some other
  • 00:24:17
    videos on here in which I talk about it
  • 00:24:19
    there's a whole SE dur talk but also I
  • 00:24:22
    discuss it in eczema because malesia is
  • 00:24:24
    a commensal organism that lives on all
  • 00:24:26
    of us they are lipophilic yeast that
  • 00:24:29
    eats sebum so what's a yeast a yeast is
  • 00:24:31
    a single- celled organism and they live
  • 00:24:34
    on our skin and the sebum is something
  • 00:24:36
    that we produce in our skin in every
  • 00:24:38
    hair follicle and so it's just going to
  • 00:24:40
    live and where the sebum comes out it's
  • 00:24:42
    going to eat Alesia is present on all
  • 00:24:45
    warm-blooded animals and our
  • 00:24:47
    relationship with this organism is is a
  • 00:24:49
    little complex because it occupies both
  • 00:24:51
    healthy and disease skin sometimes it's
  • 00:24:53
    just a commensal and sometimes it's a
  • 00:24:56
    pathogen now when we look at the skin
  • 00:24:58
    microbiome or fungal biome we can see a
  • 00:25:01
    fungus is Among Us and it's really
  • 00:25:03
    malesia that dominates our fungal
  • 00:25:05
    microbiome there are areas on our skin
  • 00:25:07
    that are considered more oily areas and
  • 00:25:09
    you'll see that that's kind of the top
  • 00:25:11
    so the head the neck the face the chest
  • 00:25:13
    the back these are areas of higher seab
  • 00:25:16
    buum production and incidentally these
  • 00:25:18
    are areas where we'll get acne because
  • 00:25:20
    acne is fundamentally disease of sebum
  • 00:25:22
    production but these areas are also
  • 00:25:24
    where mastesia tends to colonize the
  • 00:25:26
    most because it's its food source so you
  • 00:25:29
    want to live where your food is and
  • 00:25:31
    what's really interesting is that we see
  • 00:25:34
    a connection between th17 and malesia so
  • 00:25:37
    Mouse model demonstrated that the is 23
  • 00:25:40
    is 17 pathway controls fungle
  • 00:25:43
    colonization and drives malesia induced
  • 00:25:46
    inflammation in skin mice that are
  • 00:25:48
    deficient in is 17A or F or is 23 showed
  • 00:25:53
    uncontrolled malesia growth on their
  • 00:25:55
    skin and in malesia exposed SK we see
  • 00:25:59
    upregulated cyto kinds like I 1 beta is
  • 00:26:02
    6 and beta defense and three which is an
  • 00:26:05
    Isle 17 Target molecule they're all
  • 00:26:07
    upregulated in skin that's exposed to
  • 00:26:09
    the malesia when it comes to malesia and
  • 00:26:13
    psoriasis it's not that malesia is the
  • 00:26:16
    main cause of psoriasis it's not but it
  • 00:26:20
    can be a factor that exacerbates and
  • 00:26:23
    prolongs and really makes the psoriasis
  • 00:26:25
    a lot worse because malesia can invade
  • 00:26:29
    the Keratin Ayes and then they basically
  • 00:26:32
    trigger inflammatory cyto kind synthesis
  • 00:26:35
    and they can also affect the expression
  • 00:26:38
    of the cutaneous proteins especially
  • 00:26:40
    those related to cell migration and
  • 00:26:43
    proliferation again the fundamental
  • 00:26:45
    issue in psoriasis it's really
  • 00:26:48
    interesting you know they've done
  • 00:26:49
    studies on lesional skin so skin with
  • 00:26:52
    psoriatic plaque and if they apply
  • 00:26:55
    malesia yeast that will create and
  • 00:26:58
    exacerbation to existing plats but
  • 00:27:02
    what's really interesting is they took
  • 00:27:03
    10 patients with psoriasis and they put
  • 00:27:07
    suspensions of malesia ovalis such as a
  • 00:27:10
    species onto unaffected Skin So areas
  • 00:27:13
    where they were not having psoriasis and
  • 00:27:16
    all 10 of them that induced the
  • 00:27:18
    formation of new psoriatic PLS really
  • 00:27:21
    interesting with scalp psoriasis we
  • 00:27:24
    talked about how many patients with
  • 00:27:25
    psoriasis their scalp is affected you
  • 00:27:28
    should absolutely be thinking of malesia
  • 00:27:30
    it's going to be a factor again malesia
  • 00:27:32
    really likes to colonize this area and
  • 00:27:35
    there are studies that show the
  • 00:27:36
    treatment of patients with scalp
  • 00:27:38
    psoriasis with antifungal drugs like
  • 00:27:41
    gazol Mark uh resulted in marked
  • 00:27:44
    improvement of scal pollutions after
  • 00:27:46
    there was a decrease in the males cell
  • 00:27:48
    numbers now I don't use Pharmaceuticals
  • 00:27:51
    I treat with herbs and supplements both
  • 00:27:53
    orally and topically but I absolutely
  • 00:27:55
    see that when I address malesia on the
  • 00:27:57
    skin
  • 00:27:58
    things get better for my psoriasis
  • 00:28:00
    patients for sure all right so let's
  • 00:28:02
    look at some naturopathic treatments
  • 00:28:04
    that we can use we looked at the
  • 00:28:06
    Pharmaceuticals but there's something
  • 00:28:08
    called Indigo naturales which is a
  • 00:28:11
    Chinese herb it's been used in China for
  • 00:28:13
    centuries as a blue dye but it's also
  • 00:28:16
    used as a medicine if you do have men
  • 00:28:19
    search for like indigon naturalis and
  • 00:28:21
    psoriasis you'll get like over 40
  • 00:28:23
    results and there's including clinical
  • 00:28:25
    trials most are from China I I only use
  • 00:28:28
    Indigo naturalis topically orally you
  • 00:28:31
    can get in some issues with liver injury
  • 00:28:33
    pulmonary hypertension and GI reaction
  • 00:28:36
    so I don't use it orally I only use it
  • 00:28:38
    topically but it can be really helpful
  • 00:28:41
    and there's many studies that have been
  • 00:28:43
    done on Indigo naturales basically
  • 00:28:47
    showing that it decreases Isle 17 and
  • 00:28:51
    can really improve the th17 pathway so
  • 00:28:55
    there was in Ruben in Vivo and mice with
  • 00:28:58
    mamod induced psoriatic dermatitis so
  • 00:29:01
    basically they tried to give the mice a
  • 00:29:03
    psoriasis and the application of indigo
  • 00:29:06
    naturalis decreased
  • 00:29:14
    keratinocytes aisle 1 6 23 and 22 in
  • 00:29:18
    lesions decrease that Jack saat pathway
  • 00:29:21
    and we can see that it really does help
  • 00:29:24
    with that th17 pathway and it helps
  • 00:29:27
    topically for the scalp something called
  • 00:29:29
    zinc pione can help with scalp psoriasis
  • 00:29:33
    so we've looked at patients who have
  • 00:29:36
    scalp psoriasis and those who don't and
  • 00:29:39
    in normal healthy controls 46% of the
  • 00:29:42
    microbial Flora is
  • 00:29:45
    malesia but in those of dandruff it goes
  • 00:29:48
    up to
  • 00:29:49
    74% and so there's this huge jump that
  • 00:29:51
    goes up and for our dandruff patients we
  • 00:29:56
    can see them scratching at those their
  • 00:29:58
    scalps a lot the histamine level and the
  • 00:30:00
    scalp stratum corneum with those with
  • 00:30:03
    dandruff is more than twice those of
  • 00:30:05
    those people who do not have dandruff
  • 00:30:07
    and of course histamine is going to make
  • 00:30:08
    them itch the use of a zinc pione
  • 00:30:11
    shampoo led to a reduction in histamine
  • 00:30:14
    in subjects with dandruff down to a
  • 00:30:16
    level that was indistinguishable from
  • 00:30:18
    normal healthy controlled basically zinc
  • 00:30:21
    pione is something that we use to
  • 00:30:23
    control malesia and again if you want to
  • 00:30:25
    learn more about that check out my seber
  • 00:30:28
    dermatitis dandruff talk on this channel
  • 00:30:31
    as well another herb that can be very
  • 00:30:33
    helpful is scoia by cenis or Chinese
  • 00:30:37
    skull cap don't confuse this with
  • 00:30:39
    scutaria latera Flora which is different
  • 00:30:42
    type of scoia this is scoia by kenis
  • 00:30:46
    Chinese skull cap it's been found to
  • 00:30:49
    lower th17 cells as well as I 17 Isle 6
  • 00:30:53
    and Isis 23 and scoia by colinus has
  • 00:30:56
    been found to in inrease those t-ag
  • 00:30:59
    cells those are the immune tolerant
  • 00:31:01
    cells that calms down the immune system
  • 00:31:03
    the nice thing about sco areia bensis is
  • 00:31:06
    we can use it orally and topically
  • 00:31:08
    there's capsules tinctures or glycerides
  • 00:31:11
    it's a wonderful herb it's used
  • 00:31:12
    extensively in Chinese medicine there's
  • 00:31:15
    several studies one study found that
  • 00:31:17
    Bolin is a constituent of scutaria
  • 00:31:20
    bensis so Boline in Vivo in mice with
  • 00:31:23
    silica induce lung inflammation and
  • 00:31:25
    fibrosis it decreased their th7 cells
  • 00:31:29
    decreased I 6 I 17A and I 23 and
  • 00:31:33
    increased t-reg cells Bolin in vitro was
  • 00:31:37
    shown to decrease th17 cells and
  • 00:31:39
    increased t-regs Bolin in Vivo in lupus
  • 00:31:43
    prone mice decreased th17 cells and I 17
  • 00:31:48
    and Balin in Vivo in mice with induced
  • 00:31:51
    allergic asthma uh decreased I 6 and I
  • 00:31:55
    17A so there's a lot of research
  • 00:31:58
    again in China on scoot area of
  • 00:32:01
    bensis verine is another herb and we use
  • 00:32:04
    verine widely in naturopathic medicine
  • 00:32:07
    and in North America berberine can be
  • 00:32:09
    really helpful berberine in Vivo in mice
  • 00:32:12
    with hpylori induced chronic gastritis
  • 00:32:14
    who is shown to decrease the th17 cells
  • 00:32:17
    decrease cytoid I 6 I 1 beta I 17 Alpha
  • 00:32:22
    and tgf1 beta and in vitro it decreased
  • 00:32:25
    th17 cells and I 17 so berberine can be
  • 00:32:30
    very helpful as well my acid are
  • 00:32:32
    something you might read about or hear
  • 00:32:33
    about when it comes to psoriasis now for
  • 00:32:37
    anyone out there in practice I think you
  • 00:32:38
    know there's sometimes research that
  • 00:32:40
    comes out and it makes these kind of
  • 00:32:42
    like amazing claims and then you know
  • 00:32:44
    maybe we all go try and use it and you
  • 00:32:47
    might not be seeing quite the outrageous
  • 00:32:49
    effects that the study showed and I
  • 00:32:51
    think that's true with bile acids but I
  • 00:32:53
    will say I use them but here's an
  • 00:32:55
    example so there was a study in Hungary
  • 00:32:57
    done on 800 psoriasis patients bile
  • 00:33:02
    acids you know we think of them as
  • 00:33:04
    emulsifying fat which is definitely true
  • 00:33:06
    but they also help break up endotoxins
  • 00:33:08
    in the gut and their antimicrobial so in
  • 00:33:11
    this Hungarian study 500 of the stic
  • 00:33:14
    patients were treated with a synthetic
  • 00:33:16
    bile acid for 1 to 8 weeks they claim
  • 00:33:19
    that
  • 00:33:20
    78.8% of those who were treated became
  • 00:33:23
    asymptomatic and that 25% treated
  • 00:33:26
    conventionally had iCal recovery again
  • 00:33:29
    these are I think not what you're going
  • 00:33:31
    to see a practice but I do give an ox
  • 00:33:34
    bile supplementation for my patients
  • 00:33:36
    with meals just to give them some of
  • 00:33:39
    that antimicrobial action to help reduce
  • 00:33:42
    the impact of LPS or
  • 00:33:44
    endotoxins bioflavonoids are another
  • 00:33:46
    tool that you can use so it's been shown
  • 00:33:48
    that taking orange juice with a meal
  • 00:33:51
    will prevent circulating endotoxin
  • 00:33:53
    levels and bioflavonoids have been shown
  • 00:33:55
    to inhibit the absorption of endot
  • 00:33:57
    toxins especially quatin so I do also
  • 00:34:01
    give bioflavonoids with meals for my
  • 00:34:03
    psoriasis patients again many of them
  • 00:34:06
    have a leaky gut and we know that when
  • 00:34:08
    you eat especially if there's fat in the
  • 00:34:10
    meal that's when we're going to get the
  • 00:34:11
    biggest influx of LPS into the
  • 00:34:14
    bloodstream so giving something like
  • 00:34:16
    bioflavonoids or Ox bile or eating foods
  • 00:34:19
    with bioflavonoids you know like an
  • 00:34:21
    orange juice can help kind of quench the
  • 00:34:23
    effect that all of those endotoxins will
  • 00:34:26
    have on your patient when they're eating
  • 00:34:28
    all right let's talk about food and
  • 00:34:31
    psoriasis so you know when we look at
  • 00:34:34
    the literature there was a systematic
  • 00:34:35
    review that was done on what's going to
  • 00:34:38
    work in terms of dietary advice for
  • 00:34:40
    psoriasis patients it looked at 55
  • 00:34:42
    studies they encompassed over 77,000
  • 00:34:46
    participants and of those over 4500
  • 00:34:49
    psoriasis participants and the only diet
  • 00:34:52
    they consistently showed at help
  • 00:34:53
    psoriasis was recommending weight
  • 00:34:56
    reduction with a hypoc caloric diet of
  • 00:34:58
    800 to, 1400 calories a day in obese and
  • 00:35:01
    overweight patient that is not helpful
  • 00:35:03
    at all to me because you know obese and
  • 00:35:06
    overweight patients I think we know now
  • 00:35:08
    we have a lot more information that
  • 00:35:10
    there's you know metabolic things going
  • 00:35:12
    on this is not just someone being lazy
  • 00:35:15
    and oh you know if they only hunker down
  • 00:35:17
    they can lose weight and recommending a
  • 00:35:20
    diet of you know 800 to, 1400 calories a
  • 00:35:23
    day I mean that's pretty hard to eat and
  • 00:35:26
    so this is not helpful ADV and it's only
  • 00:35:28
    in patients who are overweight and obese
  • 00:35:30
    so what about the thin patients well so
  • 00:35:34
    you know what is the Obesity psoriasis
  • 00:35:36
    connection CU there is one we know that
  • 00:35:38
    obese individuals have increased levels
  • 00:35:40
    of I 17 and I 23 and those Isle 17 and
  • 00:35:44
    Isle 23 not only do they drive th17 but
  • 00:35:47
    they increase osy synthesis of tnf Alpha
  • 00:35:50
    and Isle 6 so we know that fat carrying
  • 00:35:53
    a lot of fat is inflammatory and and
  • 00:35:55
    that's the connection with obesity and
  • 00:35:57
    iasis but again just telling an
  • 00:35:59
    overweight and or an obese patient to
  • 00:36:01
    lose weight is not particularly helpful
  • 00:36:03
    most of them have tried and can't do it
  • 00:36:06
    so there's a study that asked a psorisis
  • 00:36:08
    patients over 1200 of them what
  • 00:36:11
    benefited you the most in terms of
  • 00:36:13
    cutting out certain foods in your diet
  • 00:36:16
    50% of PES reported that cutting out
  • 00:36:18
    alcohol heals well 53.8% 53.4% reported
  • 00:36:23
    that cutting out gluten helped and 52.1%
  • 00:36:26
    reported cutting out nit is help well
  • 00:36:28
    they're all approximately 50% right so
  • 00:36:31
    it's a little bit of a coin toss so you
  • 00:36:33
    know what is going on well when we look
  • 00:36:36
    at gluten and psoriasis we see that it
  • 00:36:40
    really makes a big difference for
  • 00:36:41
    certain patients and it may make no
  • 00:36:43
    difference at all for others so there
  • 00:36:45
    was a study of
  • 00:36:48
    4,534 soris patients at a glutenfree
  • 00:36:51
    diet only helped those who were serop
  • 00:36:54
    positive for gluten sensitivity being
  • 00:36:56
    IGG to
  • 00:36:58
    transglutaminase or IGA andom mesal
  • 00:37:01
    antibody and we know that there's a
  • 00:37:03
    twofold increased risk of celiac disease
  • 00:37:06
    in psoriatic patients so certainly if
  • 00:37:08
    they're psoriatic or if they have a
  • 00:37:10
    gluten sensitivity absolutely cut out
  • 00:37:12
    the gluten in um 30 psoriasis patients
  • 00:37:16
    with IGA antibodies to gluten after 3
  • 00:37:19
    months they're being glutenfree their
  • 00:37:22
    meazzi score improved and it went down
  • 00:37:25
    which means that their sise got better
  • 00:37:28
    but these all had IGA antibodies to
  • 00:37:30
    gluten there were 16 patients with
  • 00:37:33
    palmal planter pustulosis so that more
  • 00:37:36
    rare one with these sterile pests and
  • 00:37:40
    they didn't test them in terms of gluten
  • 00:37:42
    sensitivity one out of the 16 had
  • 00:37:44
    complete clearance cutting out gluten
  • 00:37:47
    two had moderate Improvement eight had
  • 00:37:49
    Mild improvement and five had no
  • 00:37:51
    improvement and I think this is a pretty
  • 00:37:53
    good comp for what you'll see in
  • 00:37:54
    patients you know it's worth trying
  • 00:37:56
    cutting it out you can do some testing
  • 00:37:58
    on antibodies but it's not going to help
  • 00:38:00
    everybody but for some people they can
  • 00:38:03
    completely clear for other people it's
  • 00:38:04
    not going to make any difference we know
  • 00:38:06
    that gadin and gluten trigger zonulin
  • 00:38:08
    release though and zonulin increases
  • 00:38:11
    intestinal permeability I never
  • 00:38:13
    recommend that my psoriasis patients eat
  • 00:38:15
    a lot of gluten cuz I don't think that
  • 00:38:17
    it's going to ever be helpful okay what
  • 00:38:18
    about alcohol and psoriasis there was a
  • 00:38:21
    study done a metanalysis looking at 23
  • 00:38:24
    studies 18 of them concluded that
  • 00:38:27
    alcohol consumption was more prevalent
  • 00:38:29
    in psoriasis patients but five did not
  • 00:38:31
    conclude that I will say some of my
  • 00:38:34
    psoriasis patients do have a history of
  • 00:38:36
    like onset during college when there was
  • 00:38:38
    a lot of drinking going on alcohol again
  • 00:38:41
    is going to be a problem because it
  • 00:38:44
    increases gut permeability it breaks
  • 00:38:46
    down that ecosal barrier and leads to
  • 00:38:48
    leaking gut so and it's inflammatory so
  • 00:38:51
    alcohol is never going to help your
  • 00:38:53
    psoriasis paes it's worth checking in on
  • 00:38:55
    their alcohol consumption and trying to
  • 00:38:57
    to minimize it or eliminate it if
  • 00:38:59
    they're open to that but sometimes
  • 00:39:01
    you'll have patients who aren't drinking
  • 00:39:02
    any alcohol and you know they still have
  • 00:39:05
    psoriasis and then there's a big you
  • 00:39:07
    know Nightshade connection so night
  • 00:39:09
    shades are plants in the Solen ACA
  • 00:39:12
    family things like tomatoes eggplants
  • 00:39:14
    potatoes and peppers are the more common
  • 00:39:17
    ones less commonly known like paprika
  • 00:39:20
    and Goji berries are night shades as
  • 00:39:22
    well ashwagandha the herb is a nice
  • 00:39:24
    shade so it's out there a lot night
  • 00:39:26
    shades can be really healthy but they
  • 00:39:29
    can contain lectins and we know that
  • 00:39:31
    lectins can increase intestinal
  • 00:39:33
    permeability and circulating lectins can
  • 00:39:35
    provoke IGG antibody production some of
  • 00:39:38
    them have glyco alkaloids like potatoes
  • 00:39:41
    and they can lead to the disruption of
  • 00:39:43
    Epal barrier Integrity or leaky gut I
  • 00:39:46
    think we really need more research on
  • 00:39:48
    this there's a lot that we don't know
  • 00:39:51
    and again some patients are going to do
  • 00:39:53
    better eliminating N Shades others it's
  • 00:39:55
    not going to make a difference not the
  • 00:39:57
    whole class often sometimes patients
  • 00:40:00
    realize oh it's just when I eat tomatoes
  • 00:40:02
    and it may even be Raw versus cooked so
  • 00:40:04
    when it comes to which foods to
  • 00:40:06
    eliminate in your psoriasis patients
  • 00:40:08
    unfortunately there are no clear-cut
  • 00:40:10
    answers it's going to be a lot of trial
  • 00:40:12
    and error and you know elimination diets
  • 00:40:15
    I think are not a bad idea to see you
  • 00:40:18
    know what could be potentially inflaming
  • 00:40:20
    your sasis patients and what could help
  • 00:40:22
    them from cutting and out but if you're
  • 00:40:24
    only focusing on the food it's really
  • 00:40:27
    often hard to get them to clearance
  • 00:40:29
    unless it's like you know that oneoff
  • 00:40:31
    gluten real issue with gluten you're
  • 00:40:33
    going to have to go to the gut and on
  • 00:40:36
    that note let's look at some case
  • 00:40:37
    studies so we're going to look at two
  • 00:40:39
    cases our first one is going to be
  • 00:40:41
    plantar psoriasis and then we're going
  • 00:40:43
    to look at a plasis so let's look at
  • 00:40:46
    Teresa and Teresa is not her real name
  • 00:40:48
    but we'll call her that she's a
  • 00:40:50
    six-year-old female she had a ton select
  • 00:40:52
    me at age 16 due to throat problems and
  • 00:40:55
    high fevers I think we all know what was
  • 00:40:57
    going on there you know she had
  • 00:40:58
    recurrent strep throat and it really is
  • 00:41:01
    common especially in in older psoriasis
  • 00:41:04
    patients to have the history of a
  • 00:41:06
    tonsilectomy it wasn't done to improve
  • 00:41:08
    their psoriasis it was done due to
  • 00:41:10
    recurrent strap as she has pomel plant
  • 00:41:13
    her psoriasis we see that her feet are
  • 00:41:15
    really being affected by this the onset
  • 00:41:18
    was 5 years ago she is using a 40% Ura
  • 00:41:22
    and 5% salicylic acid cream every night
  • 00:41:25
    plus clobetasol
  • 00:41:27
    is a Class one super potent steroid
  • 00:41:30
    cazol is 600 times the potency of
  • 00:41:34
    hydrocortisone so she puts on the
  • 00:41:35
    clobetasol and the Ura and salicylic
  • 00:41:38
    acid cream every night she wraps her
  • 00:41:39
    feet in plastic wrap and socks and she
  • 00:41:42
    has to sleep like this and this is as
  • 00:41:45
    good as it gets it's hard to walk and
  • 00:41:47
    wear shoes but if she doesn't do this
  • 00:41:49
    wrap every night with like cloas her
  • 00:41:51
    feet are cracked and bleeding and she
  • 00:41:53
    can't walk at all she has already
  • 00:41:55
    eliminated gluten nitrate sugar Dairy
  • 00:41:57
    and alcohol she's still like this so
  • 00:42:00
    let's run the gapu test and an oat okay
  • 00:42:04
    first thing we see is that she actually
  • 00:42:05
    has a pathogen in teroh hemorrhagic eoli
  • 00:42:08
    she's not having bloody diarrhea so she
  • 00:42:11
    picked it up somewhere in the past but
  • 00:42:13
    this is a big LPS or endotoxin producer
  • 00:42:16
    this is really inflaming the system she
  • 00:42:18
    also has high levels of hpylori
  • 00:42:21
    and that is really going to cause an
  • 00:42:24
    issue with her gut each pylori lives in
  • 00:42:26
    the
  • 00:42:27
    and it can induce a hypochlorhydria if
  • 00:42:30
    you want to hear a little bit more about
  • 00:42:32
    that go watch the acne video on this
  • 00:42:34
    channel I really talk a lot about
  • 00:42:36
    hpylori on that and kind of what it does
  • 00:42:39
    to the gut and then we can see her
  • 00:42:41
    commensal bacteria we're looking at two
  • 00:42:43
    Fila here bacteroides and Fikes this
  • 00:42:46
    gives us a snapshot of about 85% of the
  • 00:42:49
    G gup bacteria and we can see that she's
  • 00:42:52
    low in both so this is what I call
  • 00:42:54
    insufficiency dpois she has insufficient
  • 00:42:58
    amounts of beneficial gut bacteria and
  • 00:43:00
    this is an inflamed gut when we look at
  • 00:43:02
    DIS biotic bacteria we see staff oras is
  • 00:43:05
    high and we see streptococus SP I just
  • 00:43:08
    want to point out that the SP means all
  • 00:43:11
    the species of streptococus so this is
  • 00:43:13
    not necessarily strep pyogenes we don't
  • 00:43:15
    know but her citro acture is very very
  • 00:43:19
    high the E9 means times 10 to the ninth
  • 00:43:21
    power so I don't know if this is a
  • 00:43:24
    billion or 100 billion this is a
  • 00:43:26
    tremendously high amount of of Citra
  • 00:43:27
    actor we can see it's in the class of
  • 00:43:30
    inflammatory and autoimmune related
  • 00:43:32
    bacteria it's because it's so
  • 00:43:33
    inflammatory a huge LPS or endotoxin
  • 00:43:36
    producer this is not helping that
  • 00:43:39
    psorisis on her feet at all she's got
  • 00:43:42
    some candida that sh up on the Su test
  • 00:43:44
    her elastase is low we see this with
  • 00:43:46
    that hypochlor hyria in hpylori so the
  • 00:43:50
    low stomach acid can affect the signal
  • 00:43:52
    to the pancreas and it's not producing
  • 00:43:54
    enough digestive enzymes and her anti
  • 00:43:57
    glidin IG is high despite the fact she's
  • 00:43:59
    eliminating gluten this is where we're
  • 00:44:01
    going to check in and make sure a lot
  • 00:44:04
    ofs think there avoiding gluten but it's
  • 00:44:06
    getting in so this is where we have a
  • 00:44:08
    conversation about really all the places
  • 00:44:11
    it can be hiding like some people do
  • 00:44:13
    weiz gluten is in soy sauce it is soy
  • 00:44:16
    sauce is fermentation of soy and wheat
  • 00:44:18
    if you switch to Tamari that's a really
  • 00:44:20
    a simple change it tastes the same Mari
  • 00:44:23
    is just soy beans but gluten really
  • 00:44:25
    those patients that to avoid gluten they
  • 00:44:27
    need to read labels gluten is Insidious
  • 00:44:30
    and they throw it into random things I
  • 00:44:32
    have had patients get inadvertent gluten
  • 00:44:34
    exposure with like beef jerky and ice
  • 00:44:36
    cream the things you just wouldn't
  • 00:44:38
    imagine that would contain gluten but
  • 00:44:40
    unless you're reading the label they do
  • 00:44:42
    her oat organic Acid Test shows that
  • 00:44:44
    there's a high fungal overgrowth so
  • 00:44:47
    arabos is the marker for candida but
  • 00:44:50
    there's some high aspergillis markers
  • 00:44:52
    and then also some CLA bacterial
  • 00:44:55
    overgrowth there there's good and bad
  • 00:44:57
    clostridia in this genus but this tests
  • 00:45:00
    for the more bad guy clostridia so a lot
  • 00:45:03
    of fungal overgrowth also if you're not
  • 00:45:06
    familiar with the O that Aster means
  • 00:45:08
    it's an inverse marker so when
  • 00:45:10
    pyroglutamic acid gets high it means
  • 00:45:12
    that you're low in glutathione and she
  • 00:45:14
    is low in glutathione so we did what
  • 00:45:17
    called the microt toxin test there was
  • 00:45:19
    enough in here that with asilis and you
  • 00:45:23
    know some stress glutathione I felt she
  • 00:45:26
    might have MotoX
  • 00:45:27
    she did have a lot of MOT toxins apoxin
  • 00:45:31
    huge amount of gleo toxin and citrinin
  • 00:45:34
    as well so this was just a huge amount
  • 00:45:36
    of MOT toxins again that toxic piece
  • 00:45:38
    that I know is there I just need to find
  • 00:45:40
    it so kind of wrapping up her overgrowth
  • 00:45:43
    and and the issues that we need to
  • 00:45:44
    address for her uh she's got hpylori
  • 00:45:47
    overgrowth dysbiotic overgrowth of Staff
  • 00:45:50
    strep Citra actor and clustr she's got
  • 00:45:53
    an inflamed gut low commensal bacteria
  • 00:45:56
    High antigliadin IGA fungal overgrowth
  • 00:45:59
    candida and aspergilus her glutathione
  • 00:46:02
    needs support she's high levels of MOT
  • 00:46:05
    toxins apoxin gleo Toxin and citrinin so
  • 00:46:08
    what am I going to do to help her well
  • 00:46:11
    the first thing to note is that
  • 00:46:13
    Protocols are individualized so this is
  • 00:46:15
    not what I will do for every psoriasis
  • 00:46:17
    patience this is what I do for Teresa
  • 00:46:19
    based on her gut microbiome testing this
  • 00:46:22
    is where going in and doing that
  • 00:46:23
    functional medicine testing on each
  • 00:46:25
    patient is really helpful so you can see
  • 00:46:27
    all the problems that are particular to
  • 00:46:29
    that patient and a note that plans
  • 00:46:31
    change every two to three months so all
  • 00:46:34
    the things I'm going to review that you
  • 00:46:35
    see here I did not do them all at once I
  • 00:46:38
    did them in multiple plans but we'll
  • 00:46:39
    look at the progression of her photos in
  • 00:46:42
    a minute on different plans so first to
  • 00:46:44
    address the bacterial overgrowth I'm
  • 00:46:46
    going to use beautiful antibacterial
  • 00:46:48
    herbs like scoia bensis and berberine I
  • 00:46:52
    do add the ox and bioflavonoids to meals
  • 00:46:55
    for fungal overr we've got our beautiful
  • 00:46:57
    antifungal herbs things like neem you
  • 00:47:00
    know great for seed extract H pylori
  • 00:47:03
    again I don't do pharmaceutical so I do
  • 00:47:06
    things like DGL and mastic gum and you
  • 00:47:09
    know more naturopathic H pylori plans
  • 00:47:12
    and for the oral microbiome even though
  • 00:47:14
    she's had her tonsils removed on all my
  • 00:47:16
    psorisis patients I do herbal nasal
  • 00:47:19
    spray and throat spray they're
  • 00:47:21
    antimicrobial because it's not just
  • 00:47:24
    tonsils we have what's called wal's ring
  • 00:47:26
    of lymphoid tissue in the back of our
  • 00:47:29
    throat and tonsils are part of that but
  • 00:47:31
    even when you remove the tonsils we have
  • 00:47:33
    other lymphoid tissue back there and you
  • 00:47:36
    know I think it's very possible that
  • 00:47:38
    especially in these psoriasis patients
  • 00:47:39
    they could be colonized whether it's
  • 00:47:41
    strep or other things I think it's worth
  • 00:47:43
    doing some oral micro and nasal
  • 00:47:45
    microbiome treatment so all of them get
  • 00:47:48
    like an herbal colloidal silver or
  • 00:47:49
    propolis nasal spray and throat spray
  • 00:47:52
    for her low commensal bacteria I'm going
  • 00:47:54
    to give probiotics I like the sport four
  • 00:47:57
    based ones prebiotics so you know you
  • 00:47:59
    can give prebiotics like a polyphenol
  • 00:48:03
    like a a pomegranate cranberry blend but
  • 00:48:06
    fiber really is a Prebiotic so work with
  • 00:48:09
    all my adult patients on getting at
  • 00:48:11
    least 35 grams of fiber per day we also
  • 00:48:13
    work on 30 different plans a week we
  • 00:48:16
    need quantity and diversity to build and
  • 00:48:19
    maintain a healthy gut microb biome
  • 00:48:21
    again we really went through making sure
  • 00:48:23
    she's really truly eliminating gluten I
  • 00:48:25
    gave her some white bom
  • 00:48:27
    glutathione and I do treat the microt
  • 00:48:29
    toxins with binders as well so there's
  • 00:48:32
    lots of good binder Blends out there
  • 00:48:35
    maybe with zolly and a little bit of
  • 00:48:37
    activ B charcoal and things that are
  • 00:48:39
    going to help bind up those mot
  • 00:48:42
    toxins I do use topicals as well so we
  • 00:48:45
    use some Indigo naturalis bomb and some
  • 00:48:47
    zinc purifying shampoo you can use the
  • 00:48:49
    shampoo on the skin and so I was having
  • 00:48:52
    her wash her feet with it we did have a
  • 00:48:54
    talk about mot toxins and testing for
  • 00:48:57
    mold and all of that this patient
  • 00:48:59
    decided she didn't want to do that so I
  • 00:49:01
    do think was a mistake but that's you
  • 00:49:03
    know an individual's right so let's take
  • 00:49:05
    a look at her progress so we can see
  • 00:49:08
    that at the first visit you know there's
  • 00:49:10
    a lot of problems and this is using
  • 00:49:12
    cazol and the Ura and salicylic acid I I
  • 00:49:16
    cannot emphasize how strong clobetasol
  • 00:49:18
    is just within 2 months of doing the
  • 00:49:21
    oral and topical plan we see where she's
  • 00:49:23
    at now and that she's is not using clol
  • 00:49:27
    anymore I would have considered a win
  • 00:49:30
    just to stop clol and not get
  • 00:49:32
    dramatically worse but we can actually
  • 00:49:33
    see things are dramatically better and
  • 00:49:35
    then 2 months after that we're seeing
  • 00:49:37
    you know basically clean and healthy
  • 00:49:39
    feet and she wasn't having to wrap her
  • 00:49:41
    feet in plastic and all of that every
  • 00:49:44
    night the other foot again you know a
  • 00:49:47
    lot of cracking and damage at the first
  • 00:49:49
    followup so the second visit and then
  • 00:49:51
    two months after that we're seeing much
  • 00:49:53
    better feet this was the side of her
  • 00:49:56
    foot wasn't a picture at the first photo
  • 00:49:58
    but at the second one we can still see a
  • 00:50:00
    lot of inflammation and then by the
  • 00:50:02
    third visit you know just healthy feet
  • 00:50:05
    she could wear sandals again and she was
  • 00:50:07
    just thrilled same with this foot you
  • 00:50:09
    I'm sad I don't have photos of the first
  • 00:50:11
    visit for these but you know it was it
  • 00:50:13
    was pretty bad and she's got you know
  • 00:50:15
    normal normal feet now so she was very
  • 00:50:18
    thrilled with you know how things
  • 00:50:20
    progress for her so for our second case
  • 00:50:22
    we're to look at a case of plaque
  • 00:50:24
    psoriasis so this is Tom
  • 00:50:27
    again we're calling him Tom not his real
  • 00:50:28
    name he's a 39-year-old male with
  • 00:50:30
    psoriasis and his onset was 20 years ago
  • 00:50:33
    in college he was on one of the
  • 00:50:36
    biologics is to kinab it did get him 95%
  • 00:50:39
    clear so this is a biologic
  • 00:50:41
    immunosuppressive we talked about an
  • 00:50:43
    Isle 12 and Isle 23 inhibitor but he
  • 00:50:46
    didn't want to be on it anymore so he
  • 00:50:47
    discontinued and the psoriasis came
  • 00:50:50
    roaring back it was getting worse and
  • 00:50:52
    spreading to every part of his body so
  • 00:50:54
    I'm going to run that GI map SW test and
  • 00:50:57
    an oat on him when we look at his stool
  • 00:51:00
    test results we see that there's some
  • 00:51:02
    moderate hpylori I treat hpor at any
  • 00:51:05
    level and for his microbiome we can see
  • 00:51:08
    that one of his phop acoroides is low so
  • 00:51:12
    it's kind of half of that insufficiency
  • 00:51:14
    disbiosis picture of the T Fila vermes
  • 00:51:18
    seems to be more inflammatory and
  • 00:51:20
    bacteroid is more anti-inflammatory so
  • 00:51:22
    we definitely want to get this up in
  • 00:51:24
    terms of his opportunistic bacteria he
  • 00:51:26
    had a high level of morganella which is
  • 00:51:28
    a high histamine producer and some
  • 00:51:31
    Proteus which is even though it's a low
  • 00:51:34
    level Proteus is pretty inflammatory he
  • 00:51:37
    showed up with a little yeast rotula and
  • 00:51:39
    he has protozoa so he has endox Mana
  • 00:51:43
    parasites and I treat all uh protozoa as
  • 00:51:46
    well remember it triggers that T1
  • 00:51:48
    pathway and his secretor IGA is very low
  • 00:51:52
    and for me this is indicative of a leaky
  • 00:51:54
    gut on his oat test we see that his
  • 00:51:58
    candida is high and so he's got you know
  • 00:52:01
    some fungal overgrowth in addition to
  • 00:52:03
    the Roto turula his bacterial markers
  • 00:52:06
    are high and oxalic and glyceric can
  • 00:52:09
    indicate fungal overgrowth his
  • 00:52:11
    glutathione is low remember this is an
  • 00:52:14
    inverse marker and so you know there's
  • 00:52:17
    there's a lot to treat here so for Tom's
  • 00:52:20
    issues he's got you know some H pylori
  • 00:52:23
    overgrowth some morganella and other
  • 00:52:25
    overgrowth he's got some of that low
  • 00:52:27
    commensal bacteria like the whole Fila
  • 00:52:30
    of bacteroides a low secretory IGA
  • 00:52:33
    indicating leaky gut candida and rotula
  • 00:52:36
    overgrowth ulx Nana and low
  • 00:52:40
    glutathion so we did run a micro toxin
  • 00:52:42
    test on him his came back normal there
  • 00:52:45
    can be two reasons for this either he
  • 00:52:47
    doesn't have microt toxins and maybe
  • 00:52:50
    there's some other issue or sometimes
  • 00:52:52
    people are you so overloaded with
  • 00:52:55
    problems they're not detoxifying it and
  • 00:52:58
    it's not in their urine okay to treat
  • 00:53:00
    ton so just a reminder that Protocols
  • 00:53:03
    are individualize and his plan changed
  • 00:53:06
    every 2 to three months we did
  • 00:53:08
    antibacterial herbs for him on his
  • 00:53:11
    bacterial overgrowth along with oxp and
  • 00:53:14
    Bible flamino add to fungal herbs for
  • 00:53:17
    him you know there's things like uber
  • 00:53:19
    ersi and P Arco addition to the ones I
  • 00:53:21
    mentioned previously H pylori protocol
  • 00:53:24
    itti protool herbs um Artesian walnut
  • 00:53:28
    hle extract you know there's a lot of
  • 00:53:30
    good antizol herbs and they're very
  • 00:53:32
    effective at cleaning them up you don't
  • 00:53:33
    need pharmaceutical for his low
  • 00:53:35
    commensal bacteria again probiotics
  • 00:53:38
    prebiotics 35 gram of fiber a day 30
  • 00:53:41
    plants a week for his low secretory IGA
  • 00:53:44
    there are formulas with imunoglobulin so
  • 00:53:46
    it's an IG IG IGM formula I gave him
  • 00:53:50
    some limle glutathione and again for him
  • 00:53:53
    Indigo naturalis bom and zinc cion
  • 00:53:57
    shampoo so let's see how his treatment
  • 00:54:00
    progressed so at the first visit we're
  • 00:54:02
    seeing some pretty dramatic
  • 00:54:05
    psoriasis just in two months just a huge
  • 00:54:09
    Improvement and decrease in inflammation
  • 00:54:11
    and four and a half months again a huge
  • 00:54:14
    Improvement this is just the other leg
  • 00:54:17
    and again you can see in the first
  • 00:54:19
    follow-up visit at the two-month Mark
  • 00:54:21
    you know it is still there we can see at
  • 00:54:23
    the ankle but just a whole different
  • 00:54:25
    level and the you know peeling up at the
  • 00:54:28
    next visit this is the arm the two Monon
  • 00:54:31
    Mark and 2 and 1/ half months later and
  • 00:54:34
    we can see hair even growing back and
  • 00:54:37
    then the back and this is more of a gate
  • 00:54:40
    presentation at the two- Monon Mark
  • 00:54:42
    there's still a pretty good amount of
  • 00:54:44
    psoriasis but at that next visit you
  • 00:54:47
    know things are much much calmer again
  • 00:54:50
    so what are things to consider if you
  • 00:54:51
    want to treat this way well when
  • 00:54:53
    treating skin think of the gut you know
  • 00:54:55
    you want to run these functional
  • 00:54:57
    medicine labs and see what's going on in
  • 00:54:58
    there analyze all the problems that
  • 00:55:00
    you'll need to address on both gut labs
  • 00:55:02
    and any other testing that you do decide
  • 00:55:05
    what order you want to treat them in
  • 00:55:06
    don't try to treat everything that's
  • 00:55:08
    wrong all at once that is just too much
  • 00:55:10
    to throw at one person or one protocol L
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    will learn the best protocols to treat
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    want to adjust based on your patient you
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  • 00:55:21
    breastfeeding man and what allergies do
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  • 00:55:29
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