I Was Wrong About Kingdom Come Deliverance 2 + Director Admits Game is NOT Christian Based

00:26:58
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TLDRThe video critiques the developments around 'Kingdom Come Deliverance 2,' focusing on character changes, specifically Henry's sexual orientation, and the developers' inconsistent messaging. The speaker expresses frustration over what they perceive as pandering for diversity and the backlash that has emerged from it. They argue that many players feel disillusioned with what they see as forced inclusivity in games and highlight the potential negative impact on the game's reputation. The discussion includes reflections on the community guidelines changes and how they relate to the broader gaming landscape and audience expectations regarding representation.

Punti di forza

  • 💼 The controversy revolves around character changes in Kingdom Come Deliverance 2.
  • 🤔 Players feel frustrated with the alteration of Henry's character and sexuality.
  • 📅 The game is currently performing well in pre-orders despite backlash.
  • 📝 Poor communication from developers contributes to community frustration.
  • 🏆 Developers might be pandering for diversity for award considerations.
  • 🎮 Audience apathy towards forced inclusivity impacts game sales.
  • 🤷‍♂️ The speaker is tired of the endless debates surrounding the game.
  • 🔄 Community guidelines have softened amid backlash.
  • 🔍 The speaker plans to review the game critically if they choose to do so.
  • 🐍 The video ends with frustration over the mess created by the developers.

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  • 00:00:00 - 00:05:00

    The speaker discusses Kingdom Come Deliverance 2, expressing frustration with the developers' choices, particularly around character representation and community backlash. They note that the situation has become ridiculous, and the developers' attempts at humor have backfired, leading to confusion among fans.

  • 00:05:00 - 00:10:00

    The speaker reflects on past comments regarding the acceptance of diverse representation in games and discusses how player expectations have changed. They acknowledge that the gaming community is increasingly rejecting perceived forced diversity, highlighting the financial success of the game despite backlash against the inclusion of LGBTQ+ options.

  • 00:10:00 - 00:15:00

    The dialogue around character Henry's sexuality in the first game versus the sequel is examined, emphasizing player disappointment over the perceived changes to the character's identity. The speaker argues that developers should respect established character lore to avoid confusion and backlash.

  • 00:15:00 - 00:20:00

    The speaker delves into the industry's pressure regarding diversity for award nominations, claiming that current trends in gaming have influenced developer decisions. They point out inconsistencies in the developers' statements concerning the themes and representation in the game, questioning the rationale behind the changes made.

  • 00:20:00 - 00:26:58

    The speaker concludes with a sense of disappointment in the developers for mishandling community expectations and mismanaging the game’s narrative. They express a desire to move on from the Kingdom Come franchise, highlighting the absurdity of the developers' choices and the community's response.

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Video Domande e Risposte

  • What is the main issue discussed in the video?

    The main issue is the controversy surrounding the changes in 'Kingdom Come Deliverance 2,' specifically regarding character options and community guidelines.

  • Why are players frustrated with the character Henry?

    Players are frustrated because Henry's sexuality was changed from being canonically straight to include bisexual options, leading to inconsistencies in character representation.

  • What is the speaker's stance on diversity in gaming?

    The speaker acknowledges the importance of diversity but criticizes how it is often forced and the backlash it generates among players.

  • How does the speaker feel about the developers' communication?

    The speaker criticizes the developers for poor communication and inconsistency in their messaging about the game.

  • What impact does the speaker believe these changes will have on the game’s success?

    Despite backlash, the speaker believes the game will likely succeed financially, given its strong pre-order numbers.

  • What do the new community guidelines entail?

    The new community guidelines call for respectful behavior, staying on topic, and adhering to Steam's rules, moving away from previously stricter rules about race and homophobia.

  • What historical context does the speaker provide about the game?

    The speaker discusses the game's setting in a historically Christian context and the implications of introducing more diverse characters.

  • What does the speaker ultimately wish to do regarding the game?

    The speaker expresses a desire to disengage from the discussion about 'Kingdom Come Deliverance 2' due to the ongoing controversies.

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  • 00:00:00
    hey everyone today I want to go over a
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    lot of new details about Kingdom Come
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    Deliverance 2 and why at this point I'm
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    pretty much done when it comes to what
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    these developers want to put in their
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    games because it's gotten to a point
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    where this entire conversation has gone
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    off the rails and has entered parody at
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    this point and later on there's a
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    bombshell find by the internet that just
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    obliterates this entire narrative and
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    once you see it my god dude we'll get
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    there and there's also updates on them
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    changing their Community guidelines
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    you'll see as you watch this video how
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    bad of a mess this all is it's so bad
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    firstly I've seen quite a few comments
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    in my previous videos on Kingdom Come
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    calling me an apologist or Proke which
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    is just goofy cuz me of all people being
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    Proke is insane when I've been one of
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    the primary pushers of gamergate 2 since
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    its Inception originally the way I
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    looked at it was like this as long as I
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    deals weren't being forced upon you then
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    it was not bad per se like I said in
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    other videos games like Mass Effect
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    Skyrim or balers Gate 3 all featured
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    same sex romance options yet people
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    enjoyed those games and still do to this
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    day however I think the difference here
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    is how the audience has evolved and what
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    they've grown to be accustomed to or
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    more so willing to allow going forward
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    in games let me explain based on your
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    comments as I read through them I came
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    to this understanding of what many of
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    you have been trying to say to me which
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    is that to allow such Concepts to exist
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    in games going forward in any capacity
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    like same seex romance options trans
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    characters whatever else you want to add
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    to this is an acceptance of such things
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    in its totality no matter what so what a
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    certain section of the community is
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    trying to convey here is that they are
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    taking what I can only call a Puritan
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    stance where they will absolve and
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    reject anything regardless that features
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    any of these options in a game whether I
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    agree with that or not doesn't really
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    matter here that's what seems to be the
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    position of an overwhelming majority and
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    like I always say the market will decide
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    how things play out in the future
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    regardless do I think Kingdom Come 2
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    will fail financially honestly I don't
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    see it happening by stats alone it's in
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    the top 10 on Steam right now for
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    pre-orders as we speak I have no idea
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    where it sits on Playstation or Xbox
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    charts cuz obviously none of us have
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    access to the raw numbers there but on
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    Steam at least it seems despite backlash
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    that it's still doing well I find this
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    entire situation frankly ridiculous and
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    it all could have been avoided entirely
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    had warhorse just been open with players
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    and just not fixed what clearly wasn't
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    broken in the first place and what I
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    mean by this is the big elephant in the
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    room which is of course Henry now being
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    able to suddenly be gay or bisexual
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    which has irked many fans online cuz
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    Henry was never canonically able to do
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    this in the first game if you played it
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    and the way warhorse has gone about this
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    can only be described as idiotic because
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    it's Now setting a terrible precedent
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    going forward on the steam forums one
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    user asked why was Henry forced to be
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    straight in the original game to which a
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    developer would simply answer budget
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    constraints already this answer pissed
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    off a lot of people because it muddled
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    the perception of what warhorse wanted
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    to do here versus The Player's
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    expectation
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    I think this answer was honestly just
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    this developer trying to be funny or
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    snarky but it's clear that as time pass
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    people aren't laughing about it the same
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    developer would say more that was
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    probably me who answered back then I did
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    not establish Henry as a character now
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    there is an option to be bisexual but
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    nobody will be forcing you to play as a
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    bisexual character in addition to that
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    Henry can now also be more of a cat
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    person because now we have cats again
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    they're just trying to be snarky with
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    their answer and sort of make fun of the
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    entire situation but I see where this
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    Dev is coming from but I do think if
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    Kingdom Come Deliverance one just had
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    same-sex romance from the get-go none of
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    this would really be a problem for
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    anyone because it would have been there
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    already but I understand why players are
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    mad because to them any semblance of
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    accepting the so-called woke elements of
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    a game means that further concepts of
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    increasing levels could theoretically
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    get worse in future games if they're
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    accepted in the first place what I
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    consider this all to come down to is
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    that the audience at large Gamers I mean
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    have reached what I can only call an
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    ideological state of pure apathy towards
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    certain topics or concepts in games
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    these days and please listen to this
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    whole video before you come to a
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    conclusion or you know attack me it will
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    make sense I promise but what I mean is
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    that they are out of principle
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    boycotting or refusing to buy anything
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    if certain elements exist in the game
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    game to begin with whether this is right
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    or not according to me doesn't matter
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    the market will decide the outcome
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    either way but the current state of
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    gaming especially in the past four years
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    not counting the one we're in right now
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    cuz it's still too fresh has been
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    riddled with the sorts of games that
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    have been resoundingly rejected across
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    the board by players Saints Row Concord
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    dport the list continues you know them
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    all all games that do in some capacity
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    pair it the same ideology talking points
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    and feature things that people have
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    rightfully become tired of I think when
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    it comes to diversity for example it too
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    is now being rejected resoundingly
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    because people are just sick of how
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    forced everything is not just in games
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    everything Kingdom Come 1 was fully
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    white pretty much outside of a small
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    sample of people and Kingdom Come 2 will
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    have more diversity however a lot of
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    that diversity from what I gather is the
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    enemies and not really the heroes of the
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    game since the story of the second game
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    according to the game's director is
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    about an invading Army from a foreign
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    land trying to pretty much take over the
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    entire place the diversity in this case
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    isn't exactly a positive outlook but
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    regardless players just don't want it
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    anyways that being said this apathy so
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    to speak has spilled over into
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    everything else people don't even want
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    to entertain certain things if they
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    include stuff that in any way connects
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    to what they deem to be something that
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    they don't want to support is it right
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    again the market will decide that
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    question for all of us at this point I
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    just want to wash my hands of Kingdom
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    Come entirely cuz this entire situation
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    is stupid it's completely gone off the
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    rails and the misinformation and
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    confusing communication from developers
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    alike has just made this entire thing
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    insufferable for me at this point I
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    don't even know if I want to review the
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    game anymore I mean maybe I will I don't
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    know I suffered enough through Veil
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    guard for you guys and I frankly don't
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    see this being nearly as bad as that was
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    in terms of any social messaging way but
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    there's still things people are pointing
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    out about Kingdom Come 2 that just makes
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    me go why are you guys I mean the
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    developers by the way not the players
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    doing this in case you don't know
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    there's Apparently one single black
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    character in this game a combat medic
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    that Henry can speak to and he has this
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    one line of dialogue that leaked and
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    well let me read you what it says
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    overall it is safer in our country
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    nobody will waylay you on your journey
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    and we treat women with greater respect
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    and set great store by learning players
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    have pointed out that this character who
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    would be Muslim during this point in
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    time in claiming that they treat women
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    better to be crazy considering how
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    suppressed women would have been during
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    this time especially under that religion
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    however without any more context we can
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    say for sure my question would be is
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    there an option for Henry to call out
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    this Medic in this moment about his
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    claim that his religion treats women
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    better than say Christianity at the time
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    does too now if there's an option to
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    challenge his beliefs then this brings
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    an interesting conversation and moment
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    to the game however if there isn't an
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    option to criticize or downright reject
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    what this medic is saying at this time
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    then what this medic is saying is more
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    so modern-day propaganda in a game that
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    is not sent during modern day times and
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    someone could then use that line of
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    dialogue this medic says is ammunition
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    to show that warhorse has clearly lost
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    the plot but like I said I need the
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    context can I challenge this guy's
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    viewpoints or not in the game I don't
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    know yet the game isn't out yet and I
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    haven't played it but this is likely why
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    I have to review the game because it's
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    moments like this where I need to get to
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    the an so that I can report them but so
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    far it's not looking good I got to admit
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    for warhorse now let's Circle back to
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    what that original developer was saying
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    one user asked them on team about the
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    whole Henry now being able to be gay
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    thing but 8 years ago you knew that
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    quite precisely you're making it very
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    easy for yourself here especially with
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    your ID don't know we have a screenshot
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    where you wrote that Henry was always
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    supposed to be by and it was only
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    because of the budget that it wasn't the
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    case so what's your response now this
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    contradicts what you wrote a years ago
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    why has your claim changed not vas why
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    are you lying the dead would then answer
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    sorry sorry more than 8 years ago years
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    before the release of Kingdom Come 1 I
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    did not know which additional options we
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    would have for Kingdom Come 2 or if
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    there would be a kingdom come to at all
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    on Kickstarter we promised the game
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    would be sold in three acts you
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    underestimate how Dynamic game
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    development is so the dev in question is
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    claiming the reason why Henry can be gay
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    now is simply because things change in
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    development while the dev surely will
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    try to spin that story they did it to
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    add more player choice or whatever I
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    know for a fact why they added it for at
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    least one particular reason and that
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    reason is award season so if you didn't
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    know there was a controversy earlier
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    this year where Sonic the Hedgehog 3
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    couldn't be nominated for anything at
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    any award show pretty much and the
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    reason was apparently because it wasn't
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    diverse enough yeah I know but let me
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    explain the Academy Awards which you
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    know does the Oscars has a criteria for
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    quite a few years now where anything
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    that does get nominated despite the
  • 00:09:52
    quality of the movie has to have
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    diversity in it and that diversity has
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    to be on the screen behind the scenes
  • 00:09:58
    everything here's the official statement
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    the discrepancy between films that have
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    qualified for the top category and films
  • 00:10:04
    that are eligible in other categories
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    comes either because the filmmakers did
  • 00:10:08
    not attempt to qualify likely the case
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    for several documentary animated or
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    International films or because of new
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    eligibility rules that require best
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    picture candidates to meet additional
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    benchmarks for diversity and inclusion
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    this is the second year the
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    representation and inclusion standards
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    or Rays have been enforced though they
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    did not appear to disqualify any serious
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    cont contenders in the category
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    according to this article that I'm
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    referencing around 116 films from 2024
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    were not eligible for any awards at the
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    Oscars this year because they did not
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    feature enough diversity despite their
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    quality one of these movies by the way
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    that's not eligible was bad boys ride or
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    die which yeah I know it has two black
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    leads in it and it was directed by
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    non-white guys too so what the hell are
  • 00:10:52
    these award shows smoking I have no idea
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    man like how much diversity is needed
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    before these things are even considered
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    it's ridiculous I know this makes me
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    believe that stuff like no verado even
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    won't get nominated either cuz the cast
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    is full of white people but I guess
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    we'll see since you know it takes place
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    in Europe well before immigration was a
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    thing so why am I telling you all of
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    this and what does it have to do with
  • 00:11:13
    Kingdom Come Deliverance the point is
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    that this isn't just for the Academy
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    Awards it's Video Game Awards season
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    stuff too the rules are pretty much the
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    same basically if you want your game to
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    be nominated for rewards it needs to
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    have diversity both in the game and
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    behind the scenes although this already
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    makes no sense because astrobot won game
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    of the year last year and the entire Dev
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    studio is Japanese and there's no
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    diversity in that game they're all
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    robots and monsters so already none of
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    these rules really make any sense in how
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    they're implemented or enforced is
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    clearly biased and pointless I mean from
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    software won game of the year for seiro
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    Shadows died twice in Elden ring both
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    made by Japanese people where was the
  • 00:11:51
    diversity I don't know none of it makes
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    sense I agree but why this matters for
  • 00:11:55
    Kingdom Come is likely warhorse realize
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    the landscape of gaming has changed for
  • 00:11:59
    rewards I guess from when the first game
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    came out in 2017 versus now for example
  • 00:12:04
    the baath do is shown in this article
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    from 2020 also had to force diversity to
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    things too to get Awards to show you
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    just how long this has been going on so
  • 00:12:12
    my assumption as to why Henry is
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    suddenly able to be by I'm not
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    protecting it I'm just telling you this
  • 00:12:17
    is probably why it's happening and why
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    there suddenly people who are clearly
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    not from medieval Bohemia in the game
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    and so on is because warhorse is
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    pandering in a sense to meet the
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    criterias so that Kingdom Come to can be
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    nominated come award season in 2025
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    again it's not me defending these
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    choices it's just me telling you likely
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    the reason why it exists in the first
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    place because obviously if your game
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    wins a bunch of these Awards you can
  • 00:12:40
    then you know make trailers showcasing
  • 00:12:42
    this or slap it on the Game of the Year
  • 00:12:43
    Edition version and that maybe will coax
  • 00:12:46
    people into buying it who haven't
  • 00:12:47
    already do I think the force the
  • 00:12:49
    diversity agenda is a good idea of
  • 00:12:50
    course not I think it's really stupid
  • 00:12:52
    because we all know if a game had a
  • 00:12:54
    primarily Black cast of characters it
  • 00:12:55
    would still get nominated even though it
  • 00:12:57
    has no diversity in it technically is
  • 00:12:59
    simply one kind of people and that's it
  • 00:13:01
    but these rules are clearly not applied
  • 00:13:03
    equally and it comes down to political
  • 00:13:06
    reasons and correctness this can only be
  • 00:13:08
    the true reason why in my opinion why
  • 00:13:10
    warhorse did this in the first place
  • 00:13:12
    otherwise come award season they would
  • 00:13:14
    not be legible cuz sorry your game is
  • 00:13:16
    too white and your hero is too hetero I
  • 00:13:19
    guess it's ridiculous I know but I want
  • 00:13:21
    you guys to understand why this may be
  • 00:13:23
    happening it is a industrywide problem
  • 00:13:25
    not a warhorse one but I digress but
  • 00:13:28
    then you have Daniel VRA the director of
  • 00:13:29
    the game who answered this thing that
  • 00:13:31
    Henry can be gay here's what he said
  • 00:13:33
    Kingdom Come Deliverance is an RPG you
  • 00:13:35
    were responsible for your decisions if
  • 00:13:36
    you want Henry to try his same seex
  • 00:13:38
    Adventure feel free if you don't want to
  • 00:13:40
    you don't have to all Affairs are and we
  • 00:13:42
    in Kingdom Come one purely optional the
  • 00:13:44
    characters are perfectly aware that it
  • 00:13:46
    was a forbidden sin so while they're
  • 00:13:48
    still making it an option and making it
  • 00:13:50
    historically accurate fans are still
  • 00:13:52
    against it and at this point the
  • 00:13:54
    reasoning is what I already detailed
  • 00:13:56
    people are just fed up they're tired and
  • 00:13:58
    they're overall all of this V would
  • 00:14:00
    confirm the notion that Henry is you the
  • 00:14:02
    player and his own character and this
  • 00:14:04
    again feels like it was changed in
  • 00:14:06
    between games if I'm being honest CU
  • 00:14:07
    like I said in another kingdom come
  • 00:14:09
    video Henry is like geralt of Rivia like
  • 00:14:12
    in The Witcher sure you could decide
  • 00:14:14
    what he could do in situations in game
  • 00:14:16
    but geralt was still canonically his own
  • 00:14:18
    character and in geralt's case in the
  • 00:14:20
    three Witcher games there is zero
  • 00:14:22
    options to turn geralt gay or by because
  • 00:14:24
    geralt is canonically not that and the
  • 00:14:27
    same argument could be placed on Henry
  • 00:14:29
    the fact he has a specific name a
  • 00:14:31
    specific voice and face that you the
  • 00:14:33
    player cannot change yourself made many
  • 00:14:36
    to believe that Henry would be treated
  • 00:14:38
    like geralt was a character that does
  • 00:14:40
    exist in this world but has a predefined
  • 00:14:43
    background belief system and presumably
  • 00:14:45
    sexuality too now had the hero of
  • 00:14:47
    Kingdom Come been a fully customizable
  • 00:14:49
    character you know we're talking male or
  • 00:14:50
    female and all of that this would all be
  • 00:14:52
    different but Henry is not that kind of
  • 00:14:54
    character so it does feel weird to
  • 00:14:56
    impose a different sexuality onto a
  • 00:14:58
    character who would would it be that if
  • 00:14:59
    that makes sense like I know that Siri
  • 00:15:02
    is the main character in Witcher four
  • 00:15:03
    but if geralt were playable again and
  • 00:15:05
    suddenly he could be gay just no dude no
  • 00:15:08
    it would be an assassination on his
  • 00:15:10
    character and cdpr could say well geralt
  • 00:15:12
    is you no he isn't Galt is not me or
  • 00:15:16
    anyone else geralt is geralt and Henry
  • 00:15:18
    is Henry and I think what they did here
  • 00:15:20
    is caused such a rift that it's causing
  • 00:15:22
    everything to implode into this needless
  • 00:15:25
    fight that never had to exist in the
  • 00:15:26
    first place all warhorse had to do was
  • 00:15:29
    respect the players Henry from the first
  • 00:15:30
    game and just build around them as in
  • 00:15:33
    better combat you know game stability
  • 00:15:35
    and Etc and all that stuff this change
  • 00:15:37
    has now shown that things that claim to
  • 00:15:40
    be based are not actually that and can
  • 00:15:42
    be changed whenever these developers
  • 00:15:44
    feel like it and I know warhorse likely
  • 00:15:46
    didn't add the gay option out of malice
  • 00:15:49
    or despite people but they simply did it
  • 00:15:51
    because they wanted more player choice
  • 00:15:53
    although like I said already I think the
  • 00:15:55
    real reason why they did this is that
  • 00:15:56
    they wouldn't get snubbed come award
  • 00:15:58
    season it's clear to me anyway that the
  • 00:16:00
    implementation is just not worth the
  • 00:16:02
    risk when it comes to financial success
  • 00:16:04
    because now when and if a third game
  • 00:16:06
    even happens this problem will just come
  • 00:16:08
    up again I think it's just best that
  • 00:16:11
    whatever you state as the rules and Norm
  • 00:16:13
    of your franchise in your first game
  • 00:16:15
    that you just stick to those and don't
  • 00:16:17
    waver otherwise you end up like this and
  • 00:16:19
    it's just tiring and annoying to see if
  • 00:16:21
    you ask me because none of this needed
  • 00:16:22
    to happen could have been so easily
  • 00:16:24
    avoidable and with the way games have
  • 00:16:26
    gone now the apathy against this sort of
  • 00:16:28
    stuff has grown so much larger that
  • 00:16:31
    people simply don't need to support
  • 00:16:33
    anything that goes against their beliefs
  • 00:16:35
    or wants like man look at this okay so
  • 00:16:37
    this was a YouTube comment I assume and
  • 00:16:39
    it's from eight years ago and a user
  • 00:16:41
    asked warhorse this way before any of
  • 00:16:44
    this happened just listen to this the
  • 00:16:45
    user asks so those players who are not
  • 00:16:48
    straight will be forced to romance a
  • 00:16:50
    woman and here's what warhorse said
  • 00:16:52
    again 8 years ago about Henry being
  • 00:16:55
    straight nobody will force you to do
  • 00:16:57
    anything but you will will play as Henry
  • 00:16:59
    the son of a blacksmith and yes he is
  • 00:17:02
    straight and white and male and from
  • 00:17:06
    Bohemia someone from France will not be
  • 00:17:08
    able to play a french guy even if he
  • 00:17:10
    loves his country if you are in a
  • 00:17:12
    wheelchair you will be able to walk in
  • 00:17:14
    the game and Henry will be able to have
  • 00:17:16
    a dog in the game even if you are more
  • 00:17:18
    kind of a cat person you will play as a
  • 00:17:20
    Christian person even if you are a
  • 00:17:23
    Muslim Hindu or atheist what if you are
  • 00:17:26
    an artist and drawing is your life and
  • 00:17:28
    now you have to play as a character who
  • 00:17:30
    is not able to hold a brush or pen at
  • 00:17:32
    all or if you were tall or small or big
  • 00:17:34
    or skinny there is nothing wrong about
  • 00:17:35
    people having different preferences and
  • 00:17:37
    heritages but we cannot cover them all
  • 00:17:40
    and we don't want to we want to tell the
  • 00:17:42
    story of Henry the son of a blacksmith
  • 00:17:44
    from Silver scalas and he will be
  • 00:17:46
    different from you not only in his
  • 00:17:49
    sexuality but in his Heritage in his
  • 00:17:53
    looks and in his biography and many more
  • 00:17:56
    my god dude he maybe will be able to do
  • 00:17:58
    things you are not able to do in real
  • 00:18:00
    life while he lacks in other task in
  • 00:18:01
    which you are great this game is not
  • 00:18:03
    meant to be about you you are not Henry
  • 00:18:07
    and you will be able to play Henry as
  • 00:18:09
    you want to you can play his role there
  • 00:18:11
    are so much facets that create a
  • 00:18:13
    character a person and individual being
  • 00:18:15
    gay or straight is not the only
  • 00:18:17
    difference between people people or
  • 00:18:19
    people oh my god dude yeah this just my
  • 00:18:23
    god dude this single thing this single
  • 00:18:25
    comment Whatever by warhorse it just
  • 00:18:28
    cooked everything that they have been
  • 00:18:30
    saying up until this point so let me get
  • 00:18:33
    this straight Henry is not the player in
  • 00:18:35
    Kingdom Come one he is Henry and is
  • 00:18:37
    canonically straight and he is a son of
  • 00:18:39
    a blacksmith and a dog person Henry is
  • 00:18:43
    also a Christian man and follows
  • 00:18:44
    Christian beliefs because during this
  • 00:18:46
    time period yeah he would be exactly
  • 00:18:49
    that based on where he lives however the
  • 00:18:52
    director recently has stated and in his
  • 00:18:54
    own words it's not mandatory and it's
  • 00:18:56
    not Christian game grifter B
  • 00:18:59
    and it's not Christian game and it's not
  • 00:19:03
    Christian
  • 00:19:07
    game like what is going on dude where is
  • 00:19:10
    the consistency here at all the game is
  • 00:19:13
    a Christian game Henry is not gay you
  • 00:19:16
    are not Henry actually you are now Henry
  • 00:19:19
    the game is actually not christian-based
  • 00:19:21
    even though it takes place in medieval
  • 00:19:22
    Bohemia for God's sakes one of the most
  • 00:19:24
    Christian places ever and uses plenty of
  • 00:19:27
    Christian imagery though the first game
  • 00:19:29
    and supposedly in the second too like
  • 00:19:31
    Daniel VRA look I tried to give you the
  • 00:19:34
    benefit of the doubt there were no signs
  • 00:19:36
    that I could tell before your game came
  • 00:19:37
    out that you would all just suddenly
  • 00:19:39
    steer to the left like this based on how
  • 00:19:41
    the first game went you had the easiest
  • 00:19:44
    layup in video game history dude the
  • 00:19:46
    easiest nobody has had it easier
  • 00:19:49
    gamergate 2 decimated the W agenda Trump
  • 00:19:51
    one you had the runway paved for you
  • 00:19:54
    with gold and glitter you literally just
  • 00:19:57
    had to give people a sequel that
  • 00:19:59
    respected the tendance of what the first
  • 00:20:00
    game was based upon that's it and now
  • 00:20:03
    there is no defending you guys anymore
  • 00:20:05
    because the positions the goal post the
  • 00:20:07
    messaging everything is so inconsistent
  • 00:20:11
    here and your own words are going
  • 00:20:13
    against what the players wanted here
  • 00:20:15
    nothing in this is making any sense
  • 00:20:17
    anymore how is this not a Christian game
  • 00:20:19
    you're playing a white guy in medieval
  • 00:20:20
    times fighting against a foreign army
  • 00:20:23
    invading them that is trying to take
  • 00:20:24
    their land away it's literally
  • 00:20:26
    Christianity versing other religions
  • 00:20:29
    what are we talking about here then
  • 00:20:30
    another user theorized that VAV added
  • 00:20:32
    King Musa to Kingdom Come 2 who isn't
  • 00:20:35
    white obviously and here's what VAV said
  • 00:20:37
    facts don't care about your feelings I
  • 00:20:39
    actually insisted on this character it's
  • 00:20:40
    purely my choice okay but how is this
  • 00:20:43
    not a Christian game you know what
  • 00:20:45
    little history time everyone sit down
  • 00:20:47
    open your books King Musa was the king
  • 00:20:49
    of the Mali Empire basically in case you
  • 00:20:52
    don't know that's current Day West
  • 00:20:53
    Africa at the height of its power the
  • 00:20:55
    Mali Empire was the deao dynasty if you
  • 00:20:57
    will that ruled over Africa during this
  • 00:21:00
    time King Musa was considered so rich by
  • 00:21:03
    the way that it was generally regarded
  • 00:21:04
    to be inconceivable for people of modern
  • 00:21:07
    times to Fathom just how wealthy this
  • 00:21:09
    King was by modern standards and the
  • 00:21:12
    religion of the Mali Empire which again
  • 00:21:14
    is the main villain antagonistic force
  • 00:21:17
    in Kingdom Come Deliverance too they
  • 00:21:19
    practice the Islamic religious codes
  • 00:21:22
    that's what they did that's history
  • 00:21:23
    don't shoot the messenger I'm just
  • 00:21:25
    telling you what happened in history but
  • 00:21:26
    this game whether Daniel vver wants to
  • 00:21:28
    Adit or not is literally a game that he
  • 00:21:31
    made about an Islamic Army Force
  • 00:21:34
    invading a Christian Army Force to take
  • 00:21:36
    them over how in the holiest of Hells
  • 00:21:39
    you can't tell but my head is in my
  • 00:21:41
    hands right now how in the holiest of
  • 00:21:43
    the hells is your game not a Christian
  • 00:21:46
    game by these standards of course all
  • 00:21:49
    right I haven't been in the game or
  • 00:21:50
    anything like that so unless there's
  • 00:21:51
    some Canon ending where Henry bends the
  • 00:21:53
    knee to Islam I guess and changes his
  • 00:21:56
    name to Muhammad then maybe yeah the
  • 00:21:57
    game isn't Christian or something but
  • 00:21:59
    the point stands that in terms of
  • 00:22:01
    History the Mali Empire never conquered
  • 00:22:03
    Europe or anything like that probably
  • 00:22:05
    because the vast amount of space between
  • 00:22:06
    these two Waring places was so vast by
  • 00:22:08
    the time their armies could even reach
  • 00:22:11
    where Kingdom Come takes place which is
  • 00:22:12
    present day Czech Republic by the way
  • 00:22:14
    this supposed mly Empire Army would be
  • 00:22:16
    reduced due to how much travel and
  • 00:22:17
    resources it would take to get them
  • 00:22:19
    there and the Mali Empire during this
  • 00:22:21
    time period was wealthy sure but it was
  • 00:22:22
    an Empire on the decline during this
  • 00:22:24
    point regardless this franchise's entire
  • 00:22:27
    identity that it is a medieval European
  • 00:22:29
    Simulator game pretty much claiming that
  • 00:22:31
    it's not Christian that is ridiculous to
  • 00:22:34
    me I actually can't believe that Daniel
  • 00:22:36
    vver said that it baffles me but to have
  • 00:22:38
    your own people say in the comments that
  • 00:22:40
    hey the game is pro Christian you are
  • 00:22:42
    not Henry he is own person you are just
  • 00:22:44
    a player to now actually Henry is you
  • 00:22:47
    the game is not this and that it's a
  • 00:22:49
    mess this is such a mess dude oh my God
  • 00:22:52
    it is a mess the messaging and Word of
  • 00:22:54
    Mouth surrounding this game is like
  • 00:22:56
    demon core levels of cringe now that
  • 00:22:58
    that makes zero sense I honestly went
  • 00:23:00
    from being super excited about this game
  • 00:23:02
    to now just face ping and rolling my
  • 00:23:04
    eyes whenever I hear about it like I
  • 00:23:06
    said I do think the game will probably
  • 00:23:09
    be a success financially but this stink
  • 00:23:11
    so to speak will stick to this game for
  • 00:23:13
    the rest of time also that code of
  • 00:23:15
    contact that I spoke about before where
  • 00:23:17
    they were pretty much limiting white
  • 00:23:18
    males from speaking in their forums well
  • 00:23:20
    there's an update on that too from PC
  • 00:23:22
    Gamer Kingdom Come Deliverance to Forum
  • 00:23:24
    rules that banned racism homophobia and
  • 00:23:27
    neoism walk back by the publisher which
  • 00:23:30
    now just asks everyone to please be nice
  • 00:23:32
    here's the new guidelines respect others
  • 00:23:35
    stay on topic uh no spoilers without
  • 00:23:37
    warning no spam or self-promotion and
  • 00:23:40
    follow steam's guidelines that's it
  • 00:23:43
    before the code of conduct pretty much
  • 00:23:45
    allowed anyone who wasn't white to bash
  • 00:23:47
    white people specifically but if you
  • 00:23:48
    were white you couldn't really say
  • 00:23:50
    anything it's such a mess dude all of
  • 00:23:53
    this is just Why warhorse why are you
  • 00:23:55
    guys being like this I know play on who
  • 00:23:57
    owns you runs your forums but it's clear
  • 00:23:59
    they're spooked and they're now walking
  • 00:24:01
    back things because of the backlash PC
  • 00:24:03
    Gamers not happy that they backpaddle
  • 00:24:05
    these options here's what they said it's
  • 00:24:07
    all very ugly and stupid and it leads to
  • 00:24:09
    a very obvious question why did deep
  • 00:24:11
    silver or parents company play on walk
  • 00:24:13
    back Forum rules that were well defined
  • 00:24:15
    and perfectly reasonable and that
  • 00:24:17
    provided clear and specific grounds for
  • 00:24:19
    taking action against toxic content
  • 00:24:21
    because it's clearly not out of line to
  • 00:24:22
    state that racism or homophobia will get
  • 00:24:24
    you to heave ho that's how effective
  • 00:24:27
    moderation works and when Deep Silver
  • 00:24:29
    says it made the change to better
  • 00:24:30
    reflect the kind of space we all want
  • 00:24:32
    this to be I have to wonder what kind of
  • 00:24:34
    space does it imagine people want
  • 00:24:36
    neither PlayOn nor warhorse have
  • 00:24:38
    commented it on the change at this point
  • 00:24:40
    but the comment about free speech is
  • 00:24:41
    telling numerous purported fans of
  • 00:24:43
    Kingdom Come Deliverance have complained
  • 00:24:45
    on steaman social media that warhorse
  • 00:24:47
    and specifically creative director
  • 00:24:49
    Daniel vber have refused to answer
  • 00:24:50
    questions about the game in order to
  • 00:24:52
    cover up the fact that Kingdom Come
  • 00:24:53
    Deliverance 2 is gone and you guessed it
  • 00:24:55
    woke the irony is that the walk back
  • 00:24:57
    doesn't to have the presumably intended
  • 00:25:00
    effect the forums are ripe with
  • 00:25:01
    accusations that warhorse and play on
  • 00:25:03
    are simply doing damage control and not
  • 00:25:05
    actually addressing the real and
  • 00:25:06
    legitimate concerns about the game which
  • 00:25:08
    in their mind seems to be the mere
  • 00:25:10
    presence of gay and black characters no
  • 00:25:12
    PC Gamer the problem is that I've stated
  • 00:25:15
    clearly in this video warhorse is
  • 00:25:16
    contradicting themselves all over the
  • 00:25:18
    place and they are moving the goalpost
  • 00:25:20
    all the time now when it comes to this
  • 00:25:22
    game there's no clear communication
  • 00:25:24
    there's no vision here that makes sense
  • 00:25:26
    to people looking from the outside in
  • 00:25:28
    it's just we are a Christian game
  • 00:25:29
    actually no we're not Henry is you but
  • 00:25:32
    he isn't also here's a black guy who
  • 00:25:33
    says that Islam treats women better than
  • 00:25:35
    other religions and all of this is just
  • 00:25:37
    insufferable is what it really is look I
  • 00:25:40
    tried to stay neutral in the situation
  • 00:25:42
    but at this point warhorse has open the
  • 00:25:44
    floodgates to Oblivion I tried to bring
  • 00:25:47
    reason to this conversation and every
  • 00:25:49
    time I tried to find Common Ground
  • 00:25:51
    warhorse has contradicted themselves I
  • 00:25:54
    was clearly wrong about Kingdom Come
  • 00:25:55
    Deliverance too I was wrong about
  • 00:25:57
    warhorse I and I am now just washing my
  • 00:26:00
    hands of all of this whatever happens
  • 00:26:02
    next it just happens I can't save them
  • 00:26:05
    from the backlash and I'm done being the
  • 00:26:07
    punching bag for all of this whether the
  • 00:26:09
    game sinks or swims that's up to them if
  • 00:26:11
    I review the game I will see but if I do
  • 00:26:13
    it'll strictly be to dissect the game
  • 00:26:15
    with surgical Precision to get to the
  • 00:26:17
    bottom of the story and before anyone
  • 00:26:19
    says why support them and give them
  • 00:26:20
    money remember this I bought Dragon Age
  • 00:26:22
    Veil guard and my one purchase of that
  • 00:26:24
    game and my coverage of it it clearly
  • 00:26:26
    costed BioWare a lot of money but if my
  • 00:26:29
    one purchase can save others it's a
  • 00:26:30
    necessary sacrifice but this entire
  • 00:26:33
    situation is ridiculous it's stupid and
  • 00:26:34
    I'm tired of it good luck to warhorse
  • 00:26:36
    they're going to need it this is such a
  • 00:26:38
    mess and never needed to happen in the
  • 00:26:40
    first place you guys had the easiest
  • 00:26:42
    slam dunk in history and you somehow
  • 00:26:43
    managed to Fumble it like this I am done
  • 00:26:46
    this is cancer at this point thank you
  • 00:26:48
    for watching subscribe have a great day
  • 00:26:50
    and I'm going to go play something that
  • 00:26:51
    doesn't hate me or talks down to me if
  • 00:26:53
    you don't mind I'll see you guys when I
  • 00:26:55
    see you
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  • pre-order success
  • community guidelines
  • character representation
  • market trends