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TLDRThe video delves into the pressing issue of microplastics and their implications for human health. Microplastics are ubiquitous, found in items like cleaning products, canned foods, and even rainwater. Dr. Roger Schwell discusses how we can unknowingly ingest these particles from everyday items, leading to concerns such as coronary artery disease and endocrine disruption. The conversation navigates through the origins, risks, and ways to mitigate exposure to microplastics, including practical lifestyle changes like opting for glass containers over plastic, avoiding heating plastics, and reevaluating beauty and cleaning products for harmful chemicals. It urges viewers to take control of their health by making informed choices about the products they use.

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  • 🌊 Microplastics are in rainwater and can pollute the environment.
  • 🧐 There is a potential link between microplastics and various health issues such as coronary disease.
  • 🚫 Many common products contain harmful chemicals that can leach into food and drinks.
  • 💧 Bottled water often has higher levels of microplastics than tap water.
  • ♻️ Using glass or stainless steel containers can help reduce exposure to microplastics.
  • 🔬 Microplastics may disrupt the endocrine system and affect hormonal balance.
  • 🍽️ Non-stick pans can release microplastics; consider alternatives like cast iron or stainless steel.
  • 🚨 Health risks increase with constant exposure to toxic chemicals; awareness is key.
  • 💄 Beauty products can contain microplastics that penetrate the skin.
  • 🥗 Microplastics are found in many food items, including seafood; reconsider your diet.

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    Plastic was celebrated for its revolutionary properties, yet the issue of microplastics is emerging as a significant health concern. Microplastics are found in a variety of products, even in our environment, indicating widespread contamination. Exposure to these particles could cause health risks, including hormone disruption, with potential links to serious diseases such as cancer and coronary diseases.

  • 00:05:00 - 00:10:00

    The discussion highlights the importance of understanding microplastics and chemical compounds like BPA and PFAS. With experts involved, the aim is to raise awareness about the pervasive risks associated with microplastics and to address practical steps for reducing exposure, emphasizing the distinction between fear tactics and informed decision-making.

  • 00:10:00 - 00:15:00

    Microplastics are derived from our usage of plastics, with the production rate exponentially increasing since 1950. The technical details of plastics, including polymers like polypropylene and polyethylene, reveal how common exposures are occurring through everyday items, including plastic containers.

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    The health implications of leaching chemicals from plastics are alarming. Research indicates that microwaving foods in plastic containers can release millions to trillions of microplastics into food, leading to an estimated annual exposure of 39,000 to 50,000 particles per person, underscoring the need for awareness regarding food packaging and preparation methods.

  • 00:20:00 - 00:25:00

    There is a distinction in microplastics exposure based on drinking habits. Using bottled water versus tap water shows significant differences in microplastic loads, indicating actionable steps individuals can take to reduce their exposure.

  • 00:25:00 - 00:30:00

    Expert insights detail how microplastics are present in more than just food, affecting everything from the chemicals found in thermal receipt papers to the clothing we wear. This reinforces the idea that microplastics have permeated various facets of daily life, prompting the need for critical awareness and change.

  • 00:30:00 - 00:35:00

    The discussion reveals that the body has mechanisms to detoxify certain harmful substances like BPA, but incessant exposure to various chemicals leads to a cumulative effect that can exacerbate health risks, pointing toward the challenge of living in a chemically laden environment.

  • 00:35:00 - 00:40:00

    The significance of PFAS, or 'forever chemicals,' is highlighted as they persist in the body without breaking down, leading to endocrine disruption and potential health risks such as infertility and other systemic issues, necessitating vigilance in product consumption and sourcing.

  • 00:40:00 - 00:45:00

    Revisiting consumer products and their materials, the conversation stresses the role of industry in perpetuating toxic exposure through regrettable substitutions of chemicals once common knowledge has deemed previous compounds unsafe, with little oversight or accountability involved.

  • 00:45:00 - 00:50:00

    Consumer actions are essential in confronting the widespread issue of microplastics. Shifting towards glass containers, using alternative cooking materials, and avoiding heat on plastics are actionable strategies for reducing intake. Encouraging sustainable practices focuses on collective responsibility for minimizing individual and environmental impact.

  • 00:50:00 - 00:56:35

    An understanding of the health ramifications of microplastics and chemicals extends beyond personal choice; it invites broader conversations on environmental stewardship, policy reform, and health advocacy as ways to create systemic changes for a healthier and more sustainable future.

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Video Domande e Risposte

  • What are microplastics?

    Microplastics are tiny plastic particles less than 5mm in size that come from the breakdown of larger plastics or are manufactured for specific uses.

  • How do microplastics affect human health?

    Microplastics can lead to various health risks, including increased chances of certain cancers, coronary diseases, and disruption of the endocrine system.

  • How can I reduce my exposure to microplastics?

    You can reduce exposure by avoiding heated plastic containers, using glass or stainless steel alternatives, and being cautious about cleaning and beauty products.

  • What are 'forever chemicals'?

    Forever chemicals, like PFAS, are substances that do not break down in the environment and accumulate in the human body, potentially causing health issues.

  • Are bottled waters safer than tap water?

    While bottled water generally contains more microplastics, tap water may have less, but the quality can vary by location.

  • What is the connection between microplastics and rain?

    Research indicates that microplastics can evaporate from the ocean and subsequently fall as pollutants in rain.

  • What products should I avoid to minimize microplastic exposure?

    Avoid plastic cooking utensils, containers, non-stick pans, and certain cleaning and beauty products that may contain harmful chemicals.

  • Is breast milk affected by microplastics?

    Studies suggest that microplastics can transfer into breast milk, potentially affecting infants.

  • How prevalent are microplastics in the food supply?

    Microplastics have been found in various food items, including seafood, and their prevalence is increasing due to pollution.

  • What should I use instead of Teflon pans?

    Consider using cast iron, stainless steel, or glass cookware as alternatives to non-stick pans.

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    plastic was hailed as a phenomenal
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    revolution in material making what's the
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    story with microplastics like we are
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    just starting to learn about how much of
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    this stuff comes off and the things that
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    you would think are in the equation
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    would very would be very surprising
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    cleaning products carpeting paint water
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    evaporating off of the sea contains
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    microplastic so that means it's in the
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    rain this is beyond far reaching what
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    will in dramatically increase the
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    absorption of that BPA into your skin is
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    stop it but there are people that are
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    interested in say hey what can I do
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    today in my own life we can avoid these
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    toxic compounds and still build things
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    for a reduced price and not have to
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    introduce these things to the
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    [Music]
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    population hi I'm miambi alic I'm
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    Jonathan Cohen and Welcome to our
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    breakdown this is a special mbb report
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    that thanks for being with us there's um
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    an enormous risk to your health that so
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    many people don't know about that we're
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    going to talk about today it's something
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    that's been normalized uh many people
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    have ridiculed it it is now moving from
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    the fringes right to the
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    mainstream um it has to do with what we
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    eat it has to do with what we wear it
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    has to do with how we cook and it has to
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    do with literally what we breathe and
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    what gets into our bodies it's
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    incredibly pervasive
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    uh not thinking about it sets oursel up
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    for a variety of problems there have
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    been links between this health risk and
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    potential coronary disease increased
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    risk of certain cancers uh and
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    disruption to the endocrine system what
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    are we talking about we're talking about
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    microplastics and nanoplastics we're
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    talking about bpas and we're talking
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    about pfas we're going to be talking to
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    Dr Roger schwell he is a quad grupal
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    certified physician Dr schwell is an
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    associate clinical professor at um
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    University of California Riverside
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    School of Medicine um he is also an
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    assistant clinical professor at the
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    school of medicine and Allied Health at
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    lomalinda University he is quadruple
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    board certified in Internal Medicine
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    pulmonary disease Critical Care medicine
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    and sleep medicine um Dr scheld is
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    someone who's on the Forefront of
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    demystifying medical misunderstandings
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    he's the co-founder and an instructor
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    for medc which is a medical education
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    website for professionals uh who can get
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    accreditation but also for patients and
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    lay people to learn about medical
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    conditions and things that interest them
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    he also has a YouTube channel we'll post
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    all of that below uh but we've brought
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    Dr schwell on to try and help us
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    understand what microplastics are is
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    this a real threat what are the
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    implications and what are the things
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    that we can try and do about it to
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    minimize the risk if not eliminate it
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    we're going to go through every category
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    uh that we discussed we're going to go
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    through plastic water bottles cans this
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    is not an episode designed to scare you
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    it's designed to educate you this is
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    information that has existed that in
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    many cases has been kept from us and we
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    do not believe that talking about this
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    information will lead to hysteria we
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    believe it will lead to empowerment and
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    the ability for you to decide for
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    yourself if you want to make changes how
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    you want to make those changes and how
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    those can significantly impact your
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    health before we welcome Dr schel I want
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    to say that we do start off this episode
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    with a little bit of lightness uh a
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    little bit of gosh what happens if we
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    open this BPA can of worms uh but we're
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    going to absolutely approach this with
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    the seriousness uh that it deserves
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    which um we hope that you will all
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    appreciate um this is something
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    Jonathan's been talking about for a long
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    time uh that I'm really grateful that we
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    have Dr schwell to sort of break down so
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    we can figure out what's true what's
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    Association what's correlation and uh
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    how concerned should we be so without
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    further Ado let's welcome Dr schwell
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    break it down we've brought you here
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    today to talk about something that
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    Jonathan has been having nightmares
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    about for years here's a quote Plastics
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    are probably one of the largest
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    exposures we experience as humans it's
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    been ongoing most of our lives and our
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    parents lives um plastic was was hailed
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    as a phenomenal revolution in material
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    making like people used to wear bras
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    made of I don't know aluminum I don't
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    know but you know plastic is one of
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    these things like this was this was a
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    great a great thing that we humans
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    crafted what what's the story with
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    microplastics yeah so if we so plastic
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    is a great substance has great benefits
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    it also we're finding out has a lot of
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    risk so let's talk about the benefits
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    and why it's become so popular it's it's
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    light it's strong it's malleable you can
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    recycle it it it's beautiful right I
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    mean Tupperware hash Tupperware isn't
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    there a quote in some movie I can't
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    remember was like plastic is the best
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    biggest I can't remember the movie it is
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    but you probably remember uh yeah no PL
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    plastic is is great in that sense um and
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    we've made a lot of it if you go back to
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    1950 I think the total production in
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    1950 was like two
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    million tons okay and today it's over
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    400 this is per year now today it's like
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    over 400 million tons so uh it's you
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    know two million to over 400 is a huge
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    amount and and every year it's
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    increasing because there's such a demand
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    for it pla think of plastic as uh as as
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    the little plastic plastic blocks that
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    you played with when you were a kid um
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    you know remember those little blocks
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    they have like the 2 by two and then
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    like the 2x3 blocks right you put them
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    together so there's there's there's
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    monomers those are like little pieces
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    and when you put those pieces together
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    you can make long pieces but they're
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    made up of individual parts right so
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    that's what we call a polymer and that's
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    basically what plastic is and the
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    biggest ones that you'll see are
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    polypropylene and polyethylene so
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    polypropylene for those of you who went
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    into organic chemistry uh that's three
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    carbons right very good and then
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    polyethylene those are the two carbon
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    ones and the and as you can imagine the
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    the the three carbon one is a Little Bit
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    Stronger it's a little bit more solid
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    it's a little bit less flexible and the
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    polyethylene are is a little bit more of
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    of of the opposite so it's more like the
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    pouches the plastic bags that's that's
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    basically it the problem is is that
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    these these substances are they they can
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    have water sort of penetrate into them
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    sometimes they're they're not as durable
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    they can break down and so if you take
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    those plastic blocks that you use and
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    imagine like putting crazy glue and
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    sticking them together to make sure that
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    they are durable to make sure that
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    things can't get into them those are the
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    things that we often see as consumers
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    like hey what's in that plastic and you
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    know BPA and and all of these sort of
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    things so these chemicals that they're
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    putting into the Plastics are trying to
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    make them either more durable last
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    longer uh be more uh be less brittle for
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    instance or and then resist water and
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    oil not staining so these are ways of of
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    making those Creations that we make out
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    of these blocks last longer and be
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    around for a longer period of time so
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    when we talk about microplastics there's
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    actually two aspects there's the blocks
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    themselves and what what effect they may
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    have on the human body and then there's
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    the glue that scientists have uh
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    developed over time to put those blocks
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    together so I'm sure the discussion will
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    be on sort of both of those topics what
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    we're practically talking about is that
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    I mean I'm going to go really really
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    meta here we're all made of the same
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    things right we're all made of carbon
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    and nitrogen and hydrogen it's like all
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    these things right everything us tables
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    sippy cups right it we're all made of
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    the the same things in these different
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    you know fantastic
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    conglomerations and and certain
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    conglomerations um are more um more
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    susceptible to different things in the
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    environment right yeah so so what we've
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    got
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    is we we manufactured plastic we started
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    manufacturing plastic and then we kept
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    trying to better it in ways that we
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    thought would make a better product
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    however we are now learning that those
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    things they don't necessarily stay in
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    the plastic so can you talk a little bit
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    about this word that nobody likes
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    leeching yes so there was a study that
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    was done uh and published in the one of
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    the journals of the American Chemical
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    Society where they looked at
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    microplastics and they were actually
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    able to look at the amount of
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    microplastics by doing some sort of uh
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    detection using a gold plated uh filter
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    okay so they could get down to the to
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    that kind of a detailed look and uh what
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    they found and what we is what we now
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    know is one of the major ways that we
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    get microplastics and things into our
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    body is they took something either a
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    liquid or food they put it into the
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    microwave and and it's not just the
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    microwave it's any kind of heating
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    actually and they heated it up and what
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    this does is it uh breaks down the the
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    plastic and those chemicals that are
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    locked into the plastic and it released
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    it into the into the food sample so how
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    much are we talking about well in this
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    particular uh in this particular study
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    they looked at different uh compounds
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    they looked at the polyethylene which
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    are the pouches they looked at the
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    polypropylene which are the uh solid
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    state
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    containers and they looked at different
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    types of substances those that were
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    acidic that you might see for instance
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    in like tomato sauce or fruits and those
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    that were neutral that they use like
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    distilled water for so they did a wide
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    range and what they found was that
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    anywhere from this is per square
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    centimeter now okay per square
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    centimeter of the surface anywhere from
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    millions of Nano and micro uh Plastics
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    all the way up to literally trillions
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    were released in that type of situation
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    in that same study they they looked at
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    uh they estimated based on what they
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    were seeing and the amount of plastics
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    and how they were able to detect it and
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    uh they they showed that U we are on an
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    annual basis uh taking into our body
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    probably about anywhere between 39 and
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    50,000 particles of of microplastics a
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    year and it just goes up if they include
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    inhalation uh that goes up and then if
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    they add and this was the this is the
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    real kicker this is the one that kind of
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    floored me people who drink tap water
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    versus bottled water that was a huge
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    distinction because bottled water could
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    add up to
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    990,000 particles 9,000 particles versus
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    just five for tap water like we are just
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    starting to learn about how much of this
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    stuff comes off and the things that you
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    would think are are in the equation
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    would very would be very surprising let
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    me give you an example for instance when
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    you get the receipt paper you brought up
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    the you asked the question about receipt
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    paper it is CED with PA so that when the
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    thermal printing occurs it's going to
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    show up as a as ink on the page it's not
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    really ink it's actually a reaction from
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    the BPA BPA stands for
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    uh I'm blanking
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    [Music]
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    B uh bif fossil phenol a iol a yeah
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    bisphenol a yeah yeah so if you touch
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    that receipt it's probably not you're
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    not getting a lot through that skin
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    however what will in dramatically
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    increase the absorption of that BPA into
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    your skin is is hand sanitizer stop hand
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    if you've just hand sanitized and this
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    alcohol-based thing it will actually be
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    able to yep absorb much more of it and
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    it'll be able to pass through into your
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    skin much more this is what the science
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    is showing that's an oxygen and a
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    hydrogen group just waiting to suck
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    something in exactly so that that's
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    example so how much of that is happening
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    with the sucking on the toys and the
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    paint and all of this uh you know back
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    20 years ago what was the big drama it
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    was lead right lead in the paint sure
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    now we're we we figured that out and
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    we're we're trying to make changes there
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    now we're just moving on to something
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    else that we've done and we're and we're
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    finding out the issues there okay so I
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    wan to I want to ask the the skeptical
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    but scientifically based skeptical
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    question so humans process all sorts of
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    things we are organism
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    we are you know ukar Nots we are animals
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    we're just like living in an environment
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    where things are happening all the time
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    that we have to process we have to break
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    things down we have an entire organ of
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    our body that processes toxins
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    specifically like that's what it does
  • 00:13:17
    like you know your gallbladder is really
  • 00:13:19
    important your liver is important these
  • 00:13:21
    are you know highly adapted organs and
  • 00:13:24
    systems we have a very beautiful
  • 00:13:26
    sophisticated immune system as do other
  • 00:13:28
    animal animal you know but ours is very
  • 00:13:30
    I think very special because there's
  • 00:13:31
    very special challenges and obviously
  • 00:13:33
    ways we can talk about it so some people
  • 00:13:36
    might say okay Dr schwell you know all
  • 00:13:40
    these things because of your fancy
  • 00:13:43
    microscopes and you know all these
  • 00:13:45
    things because of your you know fancy
  • 00:13:47
    new ways of looking at things and that's
  • 00:13:50
    great for you but the body is made to
  • 00:13:53
    break down and you've got all these
  • 00:13:55
    big numbers with lots of zeros at the
  • 00:13:56
    end and they're meant to scare me but
  • 00:14:00
    you know the when you say like oh these
  • 00:14:02
    things can cross the bloodb brain
  • 00:14:03
    barrier like so do a lot of things and I
  • 00:14:05
    filter them out all the time I'm doing a
  • 00:14:07
    great job right I'm alive so what what
  • 00:14:11
    do you say to people who might approach
  • 00:14:13
    it that way and say like okay we just
  • 00:14:15
    know more we can ring our hands about it
  • 00:14:17
    more we can get all upset and make
  • 00:14:19
    things more expensive and only the rich
  • 00:14:21
    you know will have access to these
  • 00:14:23
    things but don't we have the ability to
  • 00:14:27
    protect our bodies from these things
  • 00:14:29
    we do uh you're absolutely right and
  • 00:14:31
    it's it's never a situation where both
  • 00:14:34
    sides don't have evidence there's always
  • 00:14:36
    two sides to that scale the question is
  • 00:14:38
    on which side is it balanced and how
  • 00:14:39
    does it go out throughout the population
  • 00:14:41
    and where are we going to see uh the end
  • 00:14:44
    product of of disease so we might see an
  • 00:14:46
    increase in disease because of something
  • 00:14:48
    else right or because of of one of these
  • 00:14:50
    issues so let's put it in actual
  • 00:14:52
    practical terms so let's talk about the
  • 00:14:54
    glue uh so whether we're talking about
  • 00:14:57
    the you know BPA BPF BPS these things
  • 00:15:01
    have fairly short half-lies in the human
  • 00:15:05
    body because the liver is designed to
  • 00:15:08
    filter these things out and if you look
  • 00:15:10
    at the halflife of some of these
  • 00:15:11
    substances once it gets absorbed into
  • 00:15:13
    the body we're talking about five to six
  • 00:15:15
    hours so it does get filtered out
  • 00:15:17
    there's no question about it in fact uh
  • 00:15:19
    there is an enzyme that's called a phase
  • 00:15:21
    2 um uh detoxification enzymes which
  • 00:15:25
    take these things that like P like bpas
  • 00:15:28
    and makes them more water soluble so you
  • 00:15:30
    can excrete it out of the system so
  • 00:15:31
    you're absolutely right that is a good
  • 00:15:33
    thing the problem is is that we're if
  • 00:15:35
    you're being exposed to these things
  • 00:15:37
    continuously all the time then it's just
  • 00:15:40
    basically like it's coming in on a
  • 00:15:41
    conveyor belt and you're just trying to
  • 00:15:43
    get rid of it and it's constantly trying
  • 00:15:44
    to get rid of so BPA BPF BPS this we
  • 00:15:49
    could talk about you know all of these
  • 00:15:51
    these chemicals that they just keep
  • 00:15:52
    renaming uh slight variations of and
  • 00:15:55
    keep putting it into the same products
  • 00:15:56
    and then they say it's BPA free but it's
  • 00:15:59
    you know it's got something else in it
  • 00:16:00
    that's trying to make it you know
  • 00:16:01
    whatever it is but the real problem is
  • 00:16:05
    is these forever chemicals so BPA is not
  • 00:16:08
    a forever chemical it gets metabolized
  • 00:16:10
    after five or six hours what we're
  • 00:16:12
    talking about now are the pfas pfas
  • 00:16:15
    which is the polyfloral alal sub uh
  • 00:16:18
    substances so let's go back to chemistry
  • 00:16:20
    let's go back to organic chemistry and
  • 00:16:23
    you'll see why uh what we're talking
  • 00:16:26
    about here has some real scientific
  • 00:16:27
    basis to it so if you remember the
  • 00:16:29
    periodic table in the in the to total
  • 00:16:31
    top upper right hand corner of that
  • 00:16:34
    periodic table is not helium yes it's
  • 00:16:37
    helium but the one that's actually right
  • 00:16:38
    before those noble gases the the group
  • 00:16:41
    seven if you will is fluoride and and
  • 00:16:43
    Florine um is one of the most electr
  • 00:16:48
    negative atoms on the periodic table
  • 00:16:51
    that means it loves to suck electrons
  • 00:16:53
    toward it it's just the way it is
  • 00:16:54
    because it's got seven electrons it
  • 00:16:56
    really wants to have eight and it's
  • 00:16:58
    going to suck that electron in so if you
  • 00:17:00
    take carbon which were all sort of
  • 00:17:02
    carbon life forms and instead of putting
  • 00:17:04
    hydrogens on those carbons you stick a
  • 00:17:07
    bunch of fluorides on those that bond
  • 00:17:10
    between carbon and fluoride is the
  • 00:17:13
    actual it is the strongest bond known in
  • 00:17:17
    organic chemistry I mean I'm excluding
  • 00:17:18
    silicon fluoride and hydrogen and
  • 00:17:21
    fluoride those are a little bit stronger
  • 00:17:23
    but in terms of life forms carbon
  • 00:17:25
    fluoride bonds are extremely
  • 00:17:27
    electronegative they have a little bit
  • 00:17:29
    of ionic character to it so it's
  • 00:17:32
    extremely hard to break CF bonds now
  • 00:17:35
    imagine making sure that every single
  • 00:17:37
    car or hydrogen on that carbon molecule
  • 00:17:40
    is fluorinated with with fluorides what
  • 00:17:43
    you've got there is it's no surprise
  • 00:17:46
    that they're called Forever chemicals
  • 00:17:48
    these things have half- lives in the
  • 00:17:50
    human body of not hours not days not
  • 00:17:53
    weeks or months but years and these are
  • 00:17:56
    the real issues that that we have uh
  • 00:17:59
    concerns about they have been shown to
  • 00:18:02
    uh have issues with disrupting the
  • 00:18:05
    endocrine systems I I know you've you
  • 00:18:07
    have a PhD in in neuroendocrinology so
  • 00:18:09
    you can you can certainly pick this up
  • 00:18:10
    where where I may leave it off here but
  • 00:18:12
    not only are these chemicals simulating
  • 00:18:14
    some of the hormones but they can also
  • 00:18:16
    interact with the receptors for hormones
  • 00:18:17
    and so what we see in animal models and
  • 00:18:20
    we're starting to uh have theories and
  • 00:18:22
    hypotheses about in the humans is that
  • 00:18:24
    it can disrupt fertility it can disrupt
  • 00:18:26
    all sorts of things when these things
  • 00:18:28
    hang around for long periods of time and
  • 00:18:30
    just to be um clear these are substances
  • 00:18:34
    that resist grease they resist oil they
  • 00:18:39
    resist water and they resist heat is
  • 00:18:42
    that right like that's the sort of
  • 00:18:44
    category that we're talking about they
  • 00:18:46
    were first used in the 1940s because you
  • 00:18:49
    know this that's when a lot of things
  • 00:18:51
    started being invented um they are in
  • 00:18:55
    the kind of thing I'm just going to say
  • 00:18:56
    where they are they're in stain
  • 00:18:59
    resistant Fabrics they're in water
  • 00:19:02
    resistant Fabrics cleaning products
  • 00:19:06
    carpeting paint firefighting Foams which
  • 00:19:09
    it's obviously very important to have
  • 00:19:11
    these things but the question is the
  • 00:19:12
    chemicals that are used to sort of make
  • 00:19:14
    them and they're authorized for limited
  • 00:19:18
    use in cookware food packaging and food
  • 00:19:20
    processing equipment probably because
  • 00:19:23
    the FDA is like we don't know what to do
  • 00:19:25
    if we don't have these
  • 00:19:29
    yeah and people like Joseph Allen from
  • 00:19:32
    the Harvard uh School of Public Health
  • 00:19:34
    have been talking about this for years
  • 00:19:36
    uh he's actually the one that coined the
  • 00:19:37
    term forever chemicals uh and we
  • 00:19:40
    actually had them on our channel on medc
  • 00:19:42
    he was talking about the whacka type of
  • 00:19:44
    thing that these industries do where
  • 00:19:45
    they take one chemical out replace it
  • 00:19:47
    with another one and everyone's like oh
  • 00:19:49
    look it's BPA free let's get that one
  • 00:19:51
    that's healthier and it's probably
  • 00:19:55
    not I feel like we're very calmly
  • 00:19:58
    describing something and sort of
  • 00:20:01
    tiptoeing around what I feel much more
  • 00:20:04
    enraged
  • 00:20:05
    about he's Canadian so that's what
  • 00:20:07
    enraged looks like hey well hey well I'm
  • 00:20:10
    a fellow Canadian as well
  • 00:20:13
    lovely when I'm hearing this I'm like
  • 00:20:16
    well I hear that we don't know exactly
  • 00:20:18
    what is happening but can you first
  • 00:20:21
    describe some of the health implications
  • 00:20:24
    that we're seeing in animal studies that
  • 00:20:26
    we believe have correl in
  • 00:20:30
    humans what are the impacts that we can
  • 00:20:34
    see from having this constant exposure
  • 00:20:37
    to this level of microplastics and
  • 00:20:40
    forever chemicals without the ability to
  • 00:20:43
    detox it and what does it mean for our
  • 00:20:45
    bodies to be in this constant detox
  • 00:20:47
    process having to handle this load just
  • 00:20:49
    to get its head above water yeah uh well
  • 00:20:52
    let's start off with the probably the
  • 00:20:54
    one that we have the most evidence for
  • 00:20:55
    there was a paper that was just
  • 00:20:56
    published last year in the new New
  • 00:20:58
    England Journal of Medicine okay so
  • 00:21:00
    pretty pretty uh good publication and
  • 00:21:04
    and what they did was they looked at
  • 00:21:05
    these Aromas which are basically uh
  • 00:21:09
    scars inside the coronary arteries of
  • 00:21:11
    human beings when they get taken out and
  • 00:21:14
    uh and and looked at and they assessed
  • 00:21:16
    them for
  • 00:21:17
    microplastics and lo and behold it
  • 00:21:20
    wasn't in every one of them it wasn't
  • 00:21:22
    Universal but they certainly found them
  • 00:21:24
    and what they found was this is that
  • 00:21:26
    those patients that had micro Plastics
  • 00:21:29
    in their body so we're not talking about
  • 00:21:31
    the glue anymore we're not talking about
  • 00:21:32
    the pfas the posos or the BPA we're just
  • 00:21:35
    talking about the actual plastic itself
  • 00:21:38
    that there was an over fourfold increase
  • 00:21:42
    association with coronary artery uh
  • 00:21:45
    events so again that's that's not
  • 00:21:48
    necessarily causitive I was GNA say
  • 00:21:50
    associative yeah do we have a mechanism
  • 00:21:52
    cuz I love a good mechanism yeah I mean
  • 00:21:55
    it could very well be that these
  • 00:21:56
    Plastics are lodged in the coronary
  • 00:21:58
    arteries and then we develop an immune
  • 00:22:00
    response we know that coronary artery
  • 00:22:02
    disease is a is an uh INF inflammatory
  • 00:22:06
    uh situation so well it's so
  • 00:22:09
    inflammation is one thing I mean the
  • 00:22:11
    other thing I'm also thinking about
  • 00:22:12
    transport proteins and you know the the
  • 00:22:16
    systems that that are involved in
  • 00:22:18
    transporting cholesterol pla like all
  • 00:22:20
    these things those can be disrupted in
  • 00:22:23
    many ways and are often regulated kind
  • 00:22:26
    of from an endocrine level
  • 00:22:29
    yeah exactly uh and and we know that
  • 00:22:31
    there is endocrine dysfunction that is
  • 00:22:34
    occurring at the level of uh in these
  • 00:22:37
    animal studies so again these are animal
  • 00:22:40
    studies we haven't done the human
  • 00:22:41
    studies or if they are doing them I I'm
  • 00:22:43
    not aware of them uh they are looking at
  • 00:22:46
    this though obviously this is the
  • 00:22:47
    hypothesis you know Dr scheld I'm just
  • 00:22:48
    going to say it the human study is the
  • 00:22:51
    one that's being done by us being given
  • 00:22:54
    all of these chemicals and lied to and
  • 00:22:57
    not really told the entire truth about
  • 00:23:00
    what it is that we're ingesting holding
  • 00:23:02
    and processing that's the human study
  • 00:23:04
    that they're doing we're it yeah explain
  • 00:23:08
    to us a little bit more about what does
  • 00:23:09
    it mean to have endocrine disruption
  • 00:23:12
    basically the way cells communicate one
  • 00:23:13
    of the ways that cells communicate with
  • 00:23:15
    each other is with hormones uh cells
  • 00:23:17
    create proteins those proteins go
  • 00:23:19
    throughout the the blood and they latch
  • 00:23:21
    onto the receptor and what those
  • 00:23:23
    hormones do is largely based on what the
  • 00:23:25
    the cell receptor is going to do with
  • 00:23:27
    that message so whether it's diabetes uh
  • 00:23:30
    whether it's you know for insulin
  • 00:23:32
    whether it's glucagon whether we're
  • 00:23:33
    talking about uh reproductive systems
  • 00:23:36
    with FSH LH whether it's the the
  • 00:23:39
    cortisol from your adrenal gland with
  • 00:23:42
    act um these are these are all very very
  • 00:23:45
    uh important substances and and
  • 00:23:48
    processes that are going on in the human
  • 00:23:49
    body so TSH for the thyroid uh growth
  • 00:23:53
    hormone in children these are all uh
  • 00:23:55
    proteins that are secreted from the uh
  • 00:23:58
    the hypothalamus and the pituitary gland
  • 00:24:01
    together and control basically many of
  • 00:24:03
    these processes in the human
  • 00:24:05
    body so
  • 00:24:07
    summarizing pretty much every biological
  • 00:24:10
    process in the human body can be
  • 00:24:12
    disrupted
  • 00:24:14
    through having too much microplastics
  • 00:24:17
    and these forever chemicals like I'm I'm
  • 00:24:19
    over simplifying it and asking for these
  • 00:24:21
    explanations because you know it's a
  • 00:24:23
    little Insider baseball between the two
  • 00:24:25
    of you and and I think it's important to
  • 00:24:27
    really hit the nail on the head about
  • 00:24:29
    look we're talking about a level of
  • 00:24:32
    disruption and exposure to a substance
  • 00:24:35
    that is new in the last 60 80 years that
  • 00:24:40
    hasn't happened before and this is an
  • 00:24:42
    experiment but what I'm trying to S on
  • 00:24:45
    the alarm on is that for people
  • 00:24:47
    listening who are like yeah but my cup
  • 00:24:50
    of coffee is really great when we know
  • 00:24:52
    that 15 minutes of hot liquid in a cup
  • 00:24:54
    of coffee is releasing however many
  • 00:24:57
    trillions of micro plastic units of
  • 00:24:59
    microplastics into our bodies we have to
  • 00:25:02
    know what that is in order to make a
  • 00:25:04
    conscious choice of am I going to bring
  • 00:25:06
    my cup with me am I G to get angry at my
  • 00:25:09
    coffee shop for saying no I'm sorry we
  • 00:25:11
    can't fill that up for you and which is
  • 00:25:14
    something that has happened to me where
  • 00:25:16
    they try to put it in a plastic cup and
  • 00:25:18
    and I have to say please do not do that
  • 00:25:20
    and then they look at me like I'm crazy
  • 00:25:22
    and then they put it into a metal uh a
  • 00:25:25
    metal measuring cup and then put it into
  • 00:25:27
    mine but like I where I'm going is that
  • 00:25:31
    I think we need to fundamentally
  • 00:25:34
    rethink some of the assumptions we have
  • 00:25:36
    which is I don't leave my house and
  • 00:25:39
    expect that every one of my needs is
  • 00:25:41
    going to be catered to with disposable
  • 00:25:43
    utensils and plastic plates and takeout
  • 00:25:45
    containers because there's a big
  • 00:25:48
    tradeoff that we're not being told about
  • 00:25:51
    absolutely yeah and and this is not the
  • 00:25:53
    only topic of discussion where we've
  • 00:25:55
    seen in the last 50 years this type of a
  • 00:25:57
    drama change there are other fields that
  • 00:26:01
    uh maybe for another discussion I I
  • 00:26:03
    would like to kind of build on that
  • 00:26:04
    because you know I grew up in an era
  • 00:26:07
    where we did not wear seat belts we sat
  • 00:26:10
    in the way way back as Jim Rash
  • 00:26:13
    describes in his movie by the same title
  • 00:26:15
    yeah we sat in the back we had a we had
  • 00:26:17
    a 75 uh Dotson uh Dotson for those of
  • 00:26:21
    you who remember Dotson's we had a 75
  • 00:26:22
    Dotson station wagon and we would
  • 00:26:25
    frequently sit in the trunk with like
  • 00:26:27
    our arms on the back of the seat like
  • 00:26:30
    peering at whoever was sitting in the
  • 00:26:32
    middle roow just cuz like it was fun to
  • 00:26:33
    sit back there you know many of us grew
  • 00:26:35
    up at a time when people smoked in your
  • 00:26:38
    fa your parents smoked in your face with
  • 00:26:40
    the windows rolled up in a car you know
  • 00:26:44
    those things we thought well that's
  • 00:26:45
    never going to change right I mean
  • 00:26:47
    cigarettes were advertised to children
  • 00:26:50
    like Joe Camel it was like you know we
  • 00:26:52
    smoked candy cigarettes we had those
  • 00:26:55
    candy cig we thought we were so cool
  • 00:26:57
    right um another drunk driving we were
  • 00:27:00
    like that's never going to change we
  • 00:27:01
    were we were able to turn that around uh
  • 00:27:05
    Jonathan height the anxious generation
  • 00:27:07
    he was told you will never get people
  • 00:27:09
    off their phones and indeed we have a
  • 00:27:11
    movement that has swept the globe of
  • 00:27:13
    kids having to put their phones by the
  • 00:27:16
    door when they walk into classrooms
  • 00:27:17
    right so there are things that we think
  • 00:27:19
    we cannot turn around I'd like to
  • 00:27:22
    believe this is not impossible but I
  • 00:27:24
    think there's a lot of fear about either
  • 00:27:28
    causing hysteria or an hysterical
  • 00:27:32
    reaction so what Jonathan is talking
  • 00:27:35
    about is this is beyond far-reaching
  • 00:27:38
    it's ubiquitous this is ubiquitous
  • 00:27:41
    system that we're part of can you talk a
  • 00:27:43
    little bit about what what it would be
  • 00:27:45
    like to to turn something like that
  • 00:27:47
    around ju just before we get into
  • 00:27:49
    turning it around I feel like we still
  • 00:27:51
    need to list like I think people are
  • 00:27:53
    still not aware like I could do the list
  • 00:27:56
    with you we can te we can pass it back
  • 00:27:59
    and forth but like cutting boards
  • 00:28:02
    cooking utensils when Jonathan talks
  • 00:28:05
    about coffee cups he's talking about
  • 00:28:07
    like the the paper cups yeah I mean the
  • 00:28:10
    bottled water needs its own category of
  • 00:28:12
    conversation but like that's blowing my
  • 00:28:15
    mind uh cooking utensils cutting boards
  • 00:28:19
    anything that's that kind of like hard
  • 00:28:21
    durable plastic non-stick pans um
  • 00:28:26
    apparently canned goods things that are
  • 00:28:29
    canned no and that's that's important to
  • 00:28:30
    know because those canned goods are
  • 00:28:33
    lined with uh with this plastic I I saw
  • 00:28:36
    a YouTube video or some sort of short on
  • 00:28:38
    YouTube it's in my mind where they
  • 00:28:39
    actually put the can into something that
  • 00:28:42
    dissolved the metal and you could see
  • 00:28:44
    that was left behind was was this
  • 00:28:47
    plastic pouch that lines the inside of
  • 00:28:49
    all of these uh aluminum cans that we
  • 00:28:51
    think oh it's metal it's got no plastic
  • 00:28:54
    it's it's lined with plastic canned
  • 00:28:56
    drinks uh food storage containers like
  • 00:28:59
    for those of us who use stainless steel
  • 00:29:02
    and glass and our children are like my
  • 00:29:04
    lunch bag is so heavy that's why um tea
  • 00:29:09
    bags coffee
  • 00:29:10
    filters plastic wrap parchment paper
  • 00:29:14
    that is lined with plastic in addition
  • 00:29:16
    things like air fryers and toasters
  • 00:29:18
    things like that the next
  • 00:29:21
    level like synthetic clothing you know
  • 00:29:24
    we all have that like cozy blanket that
  • 00:29:27
    you're like how did they make it so soft
  • 00:29:30
    they're poison they're poisoning you
  • 00:29:32
    with softness uh it's in polyester poly
  • 00:29:36
    polyester it's a
  • 00:29:38
    polyester and this is something that is
  • 00:29:40
    in we're sleeping on it we're spending
  • 00:29:43
    whatever percentage of our life and I
  • 00:29:46
    was just gonna add to that too I was
  • 00:29:48
    just going to add to that too while
  • 00:29:49
    you're on the topic of of sports wear um
  • 00:29:52
    when you're when you're sweating these
  • 00:29:53
    clothes that are designed to Wick away
  • 00:29:55
    the sweat underwear you know how many
  • 00:29:58
    times they've talked about wicking away
  • 00:29:59
    moisture from my
  • 00:30:02
    hooo it's a whole industry I don't know
  • 00:30:05
    a lot it's an entire industry of wicking
  • 00:30:08
    moisture away from ladies who yeah by
  • 00:30:12
    the way that came up in one of the
  • 00:30:13
    studies is when they when they look
  • 00:30:15
    through the human body to see where the
  • 00:30:17
    microplastics were were showing up
  • 00:30:21
    obviously the GI tract obviously the
  • 00:30:23
    lungs but the uh eurogen tract was was
  • 00:30:26
    another place uh very concerningly as
  • 00:30:30
    well this is something we've talked
  • 00:30:32
    about here before but I I want to
  • 00:30:34
    underline it for this
  • 00:30:36
    conversation beauty
  • 00:30:38
    products absolutely like this is a real
  • 00:30:41
    big one this is a big one because you're
  • 00:30:44
    literally putting it on your skin in
  • 00:30:47
    many cases you're being told exfoliate
  • 00:30:49
    first so that your skin can absorb it
  • 00:30:51
    better so that you clean I mean it's
  • 00:30:52
    it's a thing this is
  • 00:30:55
    literally I mean it's it is it's got to
  • 00:30:58
    be one of the largest earning markets
  • 00:31:00
    right is beauty products which has now
  • 00:31:02
    spread it's not just for women men too a
  • 00:31:05
    lot of our athletic wear yoga pants when
  • 00:31:08
    did those get invented everybody wears
  • 00:31:10
    them all the time I've talked about this
  • 00:31:12
    a lot what was it 20 years ago only that
  • 00:31:14
    they like they didn't exist and now what
  • 00:31:16
    they're studying they're finding that
  • 00:31:18
    almost every single brand of yoga pant
  • 00:31:21
    has forever forever chemicals lined in
  • 00:31:24
    them and they're being slapped onto
  • 00:31:27
    people's bodies directly against the
  • 00:31:29
    skin in very porous areas and people are
  • 00:31:32
    leeching in these chemicals we've seen
  • 00:31:35
    in animal studies that the immune system
  • 00:31:38
    does have a response and goes to attack
  • 00:31:40
    the plastic but of course the plastic
  • 00:31:42
    doesn't respond to that is that accurate
  • 00:31:45
    yeah I mean other than breaking down and
  • 00:31:47
    releasing new particles but yeah so the
  • 00:31:49
    immune system is able to sort of break
  • 00:31:51
    down the plastic into further
  • 00:31:53
    microscopic particles and then is it
  • 00:31:56
    better to have clumps or or is it better
  • 00:31:58
    to disperse them it's better to have
  • 00:32:00
    clumps because you have less of a
  • 00:32:02
    surface area to disperse the the glue if
  • 00:32:04
    you will and these chemicals that are
  • 00:32:06
    are are leeching out uh so the what
  • 00:32:10
    often happens uh in the human body I can
  • 00:32:12
    speak to things like silica silica is
  • 00:32:15
    one of the most abundant substances on
  • 00:32:16
    the planet basically sand and uh we
  • 00:32:19
    actually have a a condition in the lung
  • 00:32:21
    called silicosis where you inhale
  • 00:32:23
    particles of sand the immune system will
  • 00:32:25
    surround these particles of silica and
  • 00:32:28
    they will do nothing happens to the
  • 00:32:30
    silica they just form these clumps of
  • 00:32:32
    hyperimmune cells and nothing gets
  • 00:32:35
    broken down unfortunately and and I I
  • 00:32:38
    I'm pretty sure this is exactly what's
  • 00:32:40
    happening in the human body to Plastics
  • 00:32:42
    because this is exactly what they saw in
  • 00:32:44
    that New England Journal of Medicine
  • 00:32:45
    article where they saw in these Aromas
  • 00:32:47
    in these lesions in the coronary
  • 00:32:50
    arteries they were actually able to see
  • 00:32:52
    microplastics in there what is the
  • 00:32:55
    effect and I know it needs to be studied
  • 00:32:57
    studed more about what is the effect of
  • 00:32:59
    having the immune system activated when
  • 00:33:02
    it's not an active disease
  • 00:33:05
    threat yeah it's it's autoimmune
  • 00:33:07
    conditions uh you name it uh we see this
  • 00:33:10
    with a number of diseases we see this
  • 00:33:11
    with silicosis as I mentioned but we
  • 00:33:14
    also see it with a number of other
  • 00:33:15
    conditions for instance uh tuberculosis
  • 00:33:18
    coides these are fungal and and
  • 00:33:20
    microbacterial infections where the
  • 00:33:23
    immune system will wall off the
  • 00:33:25
    infection and it will just keep it at
  • 00:33:27
    Bay and the will go throughout their
  • 00:33:28
    entire life perhaps without actual
  • 00:33:31
    disease but they are in currently
  • 00:33:33
    infected now at the at the end of their
  • 00:33:35
    life if they become imuno compromised
  • 00:33:37
    this infection can then become
  • 00:33:38
    reactivated uh but but yeah this often
  • 00:33:42
    will cause a reaction and maybe even
  • 00:33:44
    cause an autoimmune reaction where the
  • 00:33:46
    antibodies and the immune response gets
  • 00:33:48
    confused and where it feels like it's
  • 00:33:50
    attacking the initial Intruder but it
  • 00:33:52
    turns its energies and actually attacks
  • 00:33:54
    the body itself and and this is the
  • 00:33:56
    basis of most autoimmune conditions you
  • 00:33:58
    know one of the biggies for women is
  • 00:34:00
    thyroid and the thyroid is like this
  • 00:34:02
    sort of like gimme gimme gland that is
  • 00:34:05
    sort of you know taking in processing
  • 00:34:07
    it's highly hormonally regulated uh
  • 00:34:11
    connected to so many incredibly
  • 00:34:13
    important systems and you know it's one
  • 00:34:16
    of the things we first see kind of go in
  • 00:34:18
    women um and as we've talked about here
  • 00:34:21
    which is not a popular thing to talk
  • 00:34:22
    about you know who's being sold
  • 00:34:24
    chemicals to put in their nails in their
  • 00:34:27
    hair in their eyes and you know the
  • 00:34:29
    inner Linings of you know every mucous
  • 00:34:31
    membrane is being you know you're
  • 00:34:33
    inhaling something as a woman you know
  • 00:34:35
    that is chemically
  • 00:34:37
    beautiful yeah no and just to speak to
  • 00:34:40
    Jonathan's Point even more in terms of
  • 00:34:42
    how pervasive this is uh it blew my mind
  • 00:34:45
    but you know water evaporating off of
  • 00:34:47
    the sea contains microplastic so that
  • 00:34:50
    means it's in the rain uh they've looked
  • 00:34:52
    in the tundra they've found
  • 00:34:53
    microplastics in the tundra so there's
  • 00:34:55
    there's really no way you can escape to
  • 00:34:57
    this is in our oceans it's and if you
  • 00:35:00
    look at Salt for instance people consume
  • 00:35:02
    salt there's a difference between the
  • 00:35:04
    type of salt that you might consume in
  • 00:35:06
    terms of the microplastic so if you
  • 00:35:08
    actually get sea salt there's going to
  • 00:35:10
    be a high proportion of microplastics
  • 00:35:12
    there if you get salt that comes from
  • 00:35:14
    rocks that obviously were formed well
  • 00:35:16
    before the 1950s there's going to be a
  • 00:35:18
    relatively much less a level of
  • 00:35:20
    microplastics in that type of salt sorry
  • 00:35:23
    I'm just I'm looking at Jonathan and
  • 00:35:24
    he's this his his organic sea salt is
  • 00:35:26
    flashing before his eyes we're going
  • 00:35:29
    Himalayan and nothing it's like
  • 00:35:31
    Himalayan salt or
  • 00:35:33
    Bust the salt conversation is is a whole
  • 00:35:36
    other other Beast um up until the 90s it
  • 00:35:40
    was legal and considered reasonable to
  • 00:35:43
    dispose of plastic in the ocean we're
  • 00:35:46
    now studying our fish supply both small
  • 00:35:50
    fish and large fish who are eating the
  • 00:35:52
    small fish to see the amount of
  • 00:35:53
    microplastic happening in in fish so
  • 00:35:57
    when we're in encouraged to eat fish for
  • 00:35:58
    our brain health um now we also know
  • 00:36:01
    that we're getting an enormous amount of
  • 00:36:03
    microplastic load um can you talk about
  • 00:36:07
    the
  • 00:36:08
    brain you know I I've heard that it
  • 00:36:11
    potentially gravitates towards the brain
  • 00:36:13
    because of what the body is how the body
  • 00:36:14
    is coating it and processing these
  • 00:36:16
    microplastics when they're going through
  • 00:36:19
    the liver so there's microplastics and
  • 00:36:21
    there's nanoplastics and microplastics
  • 00:36:23
    is anything from half a centimeter down
  • 00:36:25
    to a micro which is a thousandth of a
  • 00:36:28
    millimeter and then anything less than
  • 00:36:30
    that we're talking about nanoplastics
  • 00:36:33
    which are basically so small that they
  • 00:36:35
    can go right through the blood brain
  • 00:36:37
    barrier they can go into the cells they
  • 00:36:39
    can they can do all sorts of of of
  • 00:36:42
    harmful things we believe um but yeah no
  • 00:36:45
    that's these very small particles these
  • 00:36:48
    Nano particles and by the way these are
  • 00:36:49
    some of the particles that we saw in
  • 00:36:50
    that study that were released when they
  • 00:36:52
    did uh microwaving of of food products
  • 00:36:56
    in plastic containers those are the
  • 00:36:58
    things that went off off the off the
  • 00:37:00
    charts so if these things go into the
  • 00:37:02
    brain uh obviously the brain is
  • 00:37:05
    extremely complex and there's all sorts
  • 00:37:07
    of hormones and these things can disrupt
  • 00:37:09
    uh not only the neurons themselves but
  • 00:37:11
    also the supporting cells that uh that
  • 00:37:14
    allow these things these processes in
  • 00:37:16
    the brain to continue to work normally
  • 00:37:19
    and of course if those are affected uh
  • 00:37:21
    then things aren't going to work there's
  • 00:37:22
    a neurog glyphis system which allows
  • 00:37:25
    lymphatics to drain from the brain these
  • 00:37:27
    are all you know possible ways of
  • 00:37:29
    mitigating some of this microplastic uh
  • 00:37:31
    aspect but again this needs to be
  • 00:37:33
    studied and it's it's difficult to do in
  • 00:37:35
    human beings because obviously uh it's
  • 00:37:37
    invasive so I think more study needs to
  • 00:37:40
    be done given that it's in the food
  • 00:37:42
    supply given that it's in the rain given
  • 00:37:44
    that it's in the ocean it's not really
  • 00:37:46
    about
  • 00:37:47
    preventing exposure it's about reducing
  • 00:37:50
    exposure as M you're talking about load
  • 00:37:54
    and how much we're being exposed to
  • 00:37:56
    because
  • 00:37:58
    while more we don't exactly know the
  • 00:38:01
    impact it can't be better for us so well
  • 00:38:04
    I mean some some could argue and I guess
  • 00:38:06
    this is a question is it too late and
  • 00:38:09
    this is just sort of the cost of Being
  • 00:38:11
    Human right now is is that how we should
  • 00:38:13
    look at this like what's your what's
  • 00:38:15
    your personal take I cannot accept that
  • 00:38:18
    by the
  • 00:38:18
    way just before you give that but I no
  • 00:38:22
    but I think it's an important point
  • 00:38:24
    because that's really this is a
  • 00:38:26
    psychological point because there are
  • 00:38:28
    people who feel like this is the cost of
  • 00:38:31
    being a human in this revolution of the
  • 00:38:35
    Industrial Age this is the cost this is
  • 00:38:38
    what we've brought upon ourselves uh I
  • 00:38:41
    was talking to uh a friend of mine who's
  • 00:38:43
    a devoted Buddhist who was like I just
  • 00:38:45
    would like to reduce suffering today so
  • 00:38:48
    I'm going to live my life today to the
  • 00:38:50
    best of my ability you know it it's more
  • 00:38:52
    of a psychological decision or kind of
  • 00:38:56
    approach well Mayan brings up a great
  • 00:38:59
    point because here's the thing we we
  • 00:39:01
    know that microplastics probably has
  • 00:39:04
    risk that that is adverse affecting but
  • 00:39:06
    the thing that we have to understand is
  • 00:39:08
    that there's so many other things that
  • 00:39:10
    can also affect us in risk and
  • 00:39:12
    particularly I'm going to I'm going to
  • 00:39:14
    point out that people who are constantly
  • 00:39:17
    in fear for a particular thing and
  • 00:39:20
    perseverate on it and actually become
  • 00:39:23
    overwhelmed and we we see this sometimes
  • 00:39:25
    uh not just not in terms of Plastics but
  • 00:39:27
    in terms of other conditions it can
  • 00:39:29
    actually affect them and them so
  • 00:39:31
    much it's actually worse than the actual
  • 00:39:34
    thing that they're afraid of so we we
  • 00:39:36
    have to realize that there's a balance
  • 00:39:39
    uh that we have to take and as it turns
  • 00:39:40
    out I believe and we this we can talk
  • 00:39:43
    about this uh as we go on there are some
  • 00:39:46
    pretty simple lwh hanging fruit things
  • 00:39:48
    that we can do to sub substantially
  • 00:39:49
    reduce our risk of getting these
  • 00:39:51
    microplastics realizing that we can't
  • 00:39:53
    eliminate every single risk that we're
  • 00:39:56
    exposed to
  • 00:39:58
    I want to hear it okay yeah all right so
  • 00:40:01
    I'm all for the
  • 00:40:03
    reduction yeah and realize here that I
  • 00:40:06
    want to be clear that that uh in in no
  • 00:40:08
    way do I believe that any of these
  • 00:40:10
    things that I would suggest to do is is
  • 00:40:13
    simply trivializing the whole problem
  • 00:40:15
    these are no these are things that will
  • 00:40:17
    not prevent these things from getting
  • 00:40:18
    into the environment we we obviously
  • 00:40:20
    have to be good stewards of the
  • 00:40:22
    environment and and do what is
  • 00:40:24
    responsible but but there are people
  • 00:40:26
    that are interested in say hey what can
  • 00:40:27
    I do today in my own life that can
  • 00:40:30
    potentially improve and reduce
  • 00:40:32
    microplastics and and and you guys
  • 00:40:34
    probably know just as well as I do but
  • 00:40:36
    let's let's start talking about that in
  • 00:40:38
    general anything that's getting hot is
  • 00:40:42
    in theory more susceptible than
  • 00:40:45
    something that's not getting hot and
  • 00:40:47
    it's funny I know a lot of this from
  • 00:40:50
    some of the laws of of kosro of kosher a
  • 00:40:53
    lot of our rules are based on what can
  • 00:40:55
    leech into uh product because you don't
  • 00:40:58
    want to quote contaminate it with dairy
  • 00:40:59
    or meat so it's kind of interesting so
  • 00:41:02
    one of the things is about hot foods so
  • 00:41:05
    when we're talking about you know a hot
  • 00:41:07
    beverage in a plastic cup or even in a
  • 00:41:10
    paper cup that's lined with plastic when
  • 00:41:12
    we're talking about microwaving things
  • 00:41:13
    getting them hot those are the times
  • 00:41:16
    when we're going to see in theory more
  • 00:41:18
    leeching correct yes absolutely this is
  • 00:41:21
    the laws of thermodynamics now that
  • 00:41:23
    we're talking about when we're talking
  • 00:41:24
    about molecules is heat allows things to
  • 00:41:27
    degrade faster reactions increase um and
  • 00:41:31
    that's that's just one of the things
  • 00:41:33
    that uh is absolutely true in the study
  • 00:41:34
    that we referenced before whether it's
  • 00:41:36
    microwave whether it's on the stove
  • 00:41:38
    whether you're heating it up these are
  • 00:41:39
    all things that will dramatically
  • 00:41:41
    increase the amount of leeching and
  • 00:41:43
    breaking down of the of the plastic into
  • 00:41:46
    the product okay so in this case if
  • 00:41:47
    you're going to heat something up
  • 00:41:48
    heating it in glass is a good idea
  • 00:41:51
    that's just like at this point glass is
  • 00:41:53
    safe yeah so remember though when you're
  • 00:41:55
    doing this uh often times when you're at
  • 00:41:57
    work and you put things into a microwave
  • 00:41:58
    you've got to be you know you've got to
  • 00:42:01
    be thinking about some of your
  • 00:42:02
    colleagues and making sure that your
  • 00:42:03
    food isn't splattering everywhere so
  • 00:42:05
    what do you put on top of the Pyrex that
  • 00:42:07
    you're now a piece of BPA exact a
  • 00:42:10
    plastic container so like okay well
  • 00:42:13
    maybe you should put like a napkin
  • 00:42:15
    because you could also put Saran Wrap
  • 00:42:16
    right and and again you could also just
  • 00:42:18
    watch it don't heat it till it splatters
  • 00:42:20
    and no one needs to have an issue see
  • 00:42:23
    and this is the thing is like everything
  • 00:42:24
    you reach for you start to realize it's
  • 00:42:26
    got plastic in it it's almost like like
  • 00:42:28
    the end of a horror movie where we are
  • 00:42:30
    living in a horror movie Dr schwell
  • 00:42:32
    that's exactly what this episode is okay
  • 00:42:35
    so so heating things putting a you know
  • 00:42:37
    piece of of uh paper towel over it I
  • 00:42:40
    don't know we haven't talked about paper
  • 00:42:41
    towels yet but hopefully they're okay I
  • 00:42:42
    don't own them but okay so okay so we we
  • 00:42:45
    dealt with heat let's go into water
  • 00:42:48
    bottles so the most ubiquitous thing and
  • 00:42:51
    especially as someone who works in the
  • 00:42:52
    industry is like crates and crates and
  • 00:42:55
    crates of plastic bottles I grew up in a
  • 00:42:57
    time when no one drank water does anyone
  • 00:42:59
    else remember this time like no one
  • 00:43:02
    drank water you were always drinking
  • 00:43:03
    like soda or juice or like I don't even
  • 00:43:06
    know what was happening I never drank
  • 00:43:09
    milk I never drank water and now
  • 00:43:11
    everyone we were told drink water it's
  • 00:43:13
    so good for you you're made of water
  • 00:43:15
    what do you do about plastic and
  • 00:43:18
    water yeah so invest in either a a glass
  • 00:43:22
    container which is well wrapped up and
  • 00:43:24
    it's not going to break Pyrex or invest
  • 00:43:27
    in in an alumin one that's not coated
  • 00:43:30
    with uh a plastic and carry that around
  • 00:43:32
    and uh you'll see that um we're actually
  • 00:43:35
    making progress because when you go to
  • 00:43:37
    the airports when you go to these places
  • 00:43:39
    you actually see exactly exactly and so
  • 00:43:42
    and as you were saying
  • 00:43:44
    Jonathan you know going to your your
  • 00:43:47
    favorite coffee place and asking them to
  • 00:43:50
    do this there I've heard now that some
  • 00:43:52
    of these coffee places will actually
  • 00:43:53
    give a discount if you bring your own
  • 00:43:56
    cup and uh and allow them to fill it up
  • 00:43:58
    so I think I think we're turning a
  • 00:44:00
    corner there if enough people start to
  • 00:44:02
    ask for it and hopefully listen to this
  • 00:44:05
    podcast and we could start to make a
  • 00:44:06
    revolution of change they're then yeah
  • 00:44:09
    they're saving you the money that you'll
  • 00:44:10
    need for your autoimmune condition that
  • 00:44:12
    you're going to get anyway um and and
  • 00:44:14
    they don't need as many cups right so
  • 00:44:16
    right so this water that I'm putting in
  • 00:44:18
    my bottle instead of drinking a a
  • 00:44:21
    plastic bottle of water that water you
  • 00:44:26
    want to have it
  • 00:44:28
    filtered right yeah like do I do I ask
  • 00:44:32
    you if I want fluoride in my
  • 00:44:35
    water that's a great question so um you
  • 00:44:38
    know there are a number of products on
  • 00:44:41
    the market depending on how much money
  • 00:44:42
    you want to spend to take out these
  • 00:44:45
    things so if you want to if you want to
  • 00:44:48
    to spend uh a decent amount of money but
  • 00:44:51
    you're not willing to like uh spend the
  • 00:44:53
    whole Bank on it you know a carbon block
  • 00:44:55
    filter can filter a lot of these things
  • 00:44:57
    out but and and especially if you get a
  • 00:44:59
    casing that's aluminum but the filter
  • 00:45:02
    themselves have plastic so you know
  • 00:45:03
    you're you're trading off big things for
  • 00:45:06
    smaller things and and less you're
  • 00:45:07
    cutting it down if you really want to
  • 00:45:10
    you know spend the bank and you want to
  • 00:45:12
    completely
  • 00:45:13
    eliminate microplastics the the way to
  • 00:45:16
    do that would be with reverse osmosis
  • 00:45:18
    systems right um the problem the
  • 00:45:21
    drawback with that is is that there are
  • 00:45:23
    healthy minerals in the water they also
  • 00:45:25
    get removed as well to add those back in
  • 00:45:28
    and remineralizing water has had some
  • 00:45:31
    issues it yeah so there there's a
  • 00:45:33
    downside and this is the thing that I
  • 00:45:34
    was talking about before you could
  • 00:45:36
    become so focused on one issue that when
  • 00:45:38
    you go to the and we all know about
  • 00:45:40
    diminishing marginal utility right the
  • 00:45:42
    more the the first candy bar that you
  • 00:45:45
    eat tastes the best the second one not
  • 00:45:46
    as well the third one even less the more
  • 00:45:49
    money and time you put into eliminating
  • 00:45:51
    Plastics each dollar that you're
  • 00:45:53
    spending is going to eliminate less and
  • 00:45:54
    less and less and cause more problems so
  • 00:45:57
    it's a
  • 00:45:58
    balance um another simple thing that I I
  • 00:46:02
    think we should talk about um if you
  • 00:46:05
    haven't gotten rid of your Teflon or
  • 00:46:09
    your whatever that makes nothing stick
  • 00:46:12
    to it I understand it's a real drag when
  • 00:46:15
    things stick to your pan I get it I've
  • 00:46:18
    lived it there was a time that I ate
  • 00:46:20
    eggs and had to cook them and I totally
  • 00:46:24
    get it but that that that's like a big
  • 00:46:27
    one because we're using that stuff all
  • 00:46:30
    the time there are a few very very
  • 00:46:33
    expensive options uh that don't have
  • 00:46:36
    those chemicals but you know the story
  • 00:46:39
    is you you may become friends with a
  • 00:46:42
    cast iron skillet that might be your new
  • 00:46:44
    friend but there's also issues with cast
  • 00:46:47
    iron skillets so finding a way to cook
  • 00:46:50
    that doesn't involve that non-s
  • 00:46:52
    stickness and you know also we were all
  • 00:46:54
    raised with television showing us that
  • 00:46:57
    the ideal is for that omelet to just
  • 00:47:00
    slide off the pan like I know it and and
  • 00:47:02
    I remember as a child I'd be like I want
  • 00:47:05
    that life I want to be that lady and it
  • 00:47:07
    just but the fact is like this is the
  • 00:47:11
    kind of sacrifice that we're sort of
  • 00:47:13
    talking about is this is a level of
  • 00:47:16
    convenience that we have all enjoyed it
  • 00:47:20
    was great while it lasted but it is time
  • 00:47:22
    to find other Solutions you're not going
  • 00:47:25
    to have that picture perfect omelette
  • 00:47:28
    experience that's just the truth exactly
  • 00:47:31
    and imagine again we just talked about
  • 00:47:34
    heat we're not talking about heating
  • 00:47:35
    things up in a microwave we're now
  • 00:47:37
    talking about such extreme temperatures
  • 00:47:39
    on the stove uh where you're cooking
  • 00:47:42
    that you're really activating uh these
  • 00:47:44
    things and they're they're leeching uh
  • 00:47:46
    no question about it yeah it's time to
  • 00:47:48
    it's time to get rid of it I'll actually
  • 00:47:50
    I'm GNA post I have this one pan That's
  • 00:47:52
    My lotka Pan because latkas you know you
  • 00:47:54
    really don't want them to stick I'm
  • 00:47:55
    ready to part with it I'm gonna do it
  • 00:47:57
    I'll post a picture of it on the
  • 00:47:58
    internet what's interesting what they
  • 00:48:00
    found in the study is that when you were
  • 00:48:03
    they found that the most amount of micro
  • 00:48:06
    Plastics was when you were cutting up
  • 00:48:07
    vegetables and um I remember when I was
  • 00:48:10
    when I talked about this on our our
  • 00:48:12
    YouTube channel someone called in and
  • 00:48:14
    said it's probably because you know
  • 00:48:16
    you've really got to push down on that
  • 00:48:17
    knife to cut those carrots and that's
  • 00:48:19
    when you're deforming that plastic uh
  • 00:48:23
    cutting board the most and it makes a
  • 00:48:24
    lot of sense to me that that's exactly
  • 00:48:26
    what's happening and I will say as
  • 00:48:27
    someone who's been using Uh Wood and
  • 00:48:30
    bamboo for years they do wear out I'll
  • 00:48:33
    be honest they do you know if you want
  • 00:48:35
    to be that person who's like seasoning
  • 00:48:37
    your cutting board with mineral oil
  • 00:48:39
    whatever I'm sure there's a reason you
  • 00:48:40
    shouldn't do that either but um yeah
  • 00:48:42
    this does mean that you you may end up
  • 00:48:45
    replacing them but in this sort of
  • 00:48:47
    tossup of environmental impact and
  • 00:48:49
    biological and endocrine impact there
  • 00:48:52
    there's going to be a trade-off there's
  • 00:48:53
    not a perfect solution here but having a
  • 00:48:55
    cutting board that you think is going to
  • 00:48:56
    last forever it's actually not going to
  • 00:48:59
    last forever and it's going to last
  • 00:49:00
    forever in a special way inside of your
  • 00:49:02
    endocrine system exactly I mean a bamboo
  • 00:49:04
    wood I'm sure has has a halflife that's
  • 00:49:07
    much shorter and it's probably not
  • 00:49:09
    affecting your endocrine
  • 00:49:11
    system y Jonathan any other categories
  • 00:49:14
    oh the other thing and this is you know
  • 00:49:17
    having a Reckoning with your beauty
  • 00:49:18
    products is really really um a hard one
  • 00:49:21
    I don't even I don't even know how to
  • 00:49:22
    touch that it's I uh I mean I've had to
  • 00:49:25
    only you can touch that one right I mean
  • 00:49:27
    I've I've I've had to do it um yeah I've
  • 00:49:30
    had to do that myself because I have a
  • 00:49:33
    system that let me know when things
  • 00:49:35
    weren't working for it um and you know
  • 00:49:38
    it's kind of interesting having an
  • 00:49:40
    autoimmune situation where your body is
  • 00:49:43
    that sensitive to the things that we're
  • 00:49:45
    all sensitive to it's just some bodies
  • 00:49:48
    are going to show it sooner than others
  • 00:49:50
    can you talk a little bit about the BPA
  • 00:49:52
    fallacy we all were taught or we all
  • 00:49:55
    sold this idea that these companies were
  • 00:49:58
    really going to do a massive service for
  • 00:50:01
    our health and take away the toxic
  • 00:50:03
    chemicals but it turns out that isn't
  • 00:50:04
    the case yeah so actually Joseph Allen
  • 00:50:08
    from the Harvard School of Public Health
  • 00:50:09
    came on our Channel and talked about the
  • 00:50:10
    whacka moole and that's what this is
  • 00:50:12
    it's basically BPA uh we didn't know a
  • 00:50:15
    lot about it and then the studies
  • 00:50:17
    started to come out and show that in
  • 00:50:19
    fact BPA was toxic BPA was doing this
  • 00:50:23
    BPA was doing that there was a huge uh
  • 00:50:26
    consumer backlash about this and any
  • 00:50:28
    anybody was now picking up things
  • 00:50:30
    looking at the ingredient list looking
  • 00:50:32
    at what was in in the uh production and
  • 00:50:35
    they saw BPA they refused to buy it so
  • 00:50:37
    what happened was is they the scientists
  • 00:50:40
    the evil scientists went back and they
  • 00:50:42
    found other substances that wasn't
  • 00:50:44
    called BPA and they started to put that
  • 00:50:47
    in place of it because it did the same
  • 00:50:48
    thing remember what what's the purpose
  • 00:50:50
    why would they want to put BPA into
  • 00:50:52
    Plastics not because they want to be
  • 00:50:53
    evil it's because they want the product
  • 00:50:55
    to be stable they want the product to uh
  • 00:50:58
    not be brittle they want it to last
  • 00:51:00
    durability and that's what this this
  • 00:51:02
    product does well they found other
  • 00:51:04
    products that did exactly the same thing
  • 00:51:06
    and were probably as toxic but again we
  • 00:51:09
    didn't have the study so now they can
  • 00:51:11
    say hey look there's no BPA in this
  • 00:51:15
    product it's now
  • 00:51:17
    BPF or BPS or something else and did we
  • 00:51:21
    have actual studies on those particular
  • 00:51:24
    substances no we didn't because they
  • 00:51:25
    just come out with it and so that's what
  • 00:51:28
    this this toxic whacka uh is is called
  • 00:51:31
    they now call it regrettable
  • 00:51:33
    substitution which is kind of a misnomer
  • 00:51:35
    because it's almost like oh I'm sorry we
  • 00:51:37
    slipped up and we we substituted this
  • 00:51:39
    but it's it's all very intentional and
  • 00:51:41
    it's it's using this thing so they can
  • 00:51:43
    be able to say we don't have studies
  • 00:51:45
    that show that these chemicals are toxic
  • 00:51:48
    but the thing that you have to
  • 00:51:49
    understand is that the absence of
  • 00:51:50
    evidence doesn't necessarily equal the
  • 00:51:52
    evidence of absence so so we believe
  • 00:51:56
    this and so actually uh in talking to Dr
  • 00:51:59
    Allen he was saying that they're
  • 00:52:00
    actually putting together programs and
  • 00:52:02
    they're actually showing that they can
  • 00:52:04
    build systems and they can build things
  • 00:52:07
    that where they say we don't want to
  • 00:52:08
    have any of these toxic chemicals no
  • 00:52:10
    matter what they are and they're able to
  • 00:52:12
    actually build things that don't have
  • 00:52:15
    these toxic chemicals in it for the same
  • 00:52:17
    price and that we don't need to do this
  • 00:52:20
    and so I think what what they're trying
  • 00:52:21
    to do is to show that show the world of
  • 00:52:24
    Industry that we can avoid these toxic
  • 00:52:28
    compounds and still build things for a
  • 00:52:31
    reduced price for a reasonable price and
  • 00:52:33
    not have to introduce these things to
  • 00:52:35
    the population so hopefully that gains
  • 00:52:38
    traction uh but we do you're absolutely
  • 00:52:40
    right Jonathan um these these companies
  • 00:52:43
    this is exactly the strategy that they
  • 00:52:45
    invoke the marketing effort wasn't now
  • 00:52:48
    with BPF where we don't know what the
  • 00:52:50
    impact was the marketing was BPA free we
  • 00:52:54
    know that you are going to be safe or
  • 00:52:56
    the implied assumption was you're going
  • 00:52:58
    to be safe oh I I totally I mean I
  • 00:53:00
    remember go I remember when when my my
  • 00:53:03
    first child was born this is back in
  • 00:53:05
    2005 and we were trying to look and my
  • 00:53:07
    wife's like hey I just saw a video on
  • 00:53:08
    BPA we cannot get anything with BPA so
  • 00:53:11
    we we've got those things we've got BPA
  • 00:53:13
    free whatever it is I literally was
  • 00:53:17
    intimidated by my 15-year-old because I
  • 00:53:20
    thought he'd complain that his lunch was
  • 00:53:22
    too heavy because I was sending him to
  • 00:53:25
    school with glass containers and I
  • 00:53:28
    finally kind of had to get over it and I
  • 00:53:30
    was like so this is the lunch thing
  • 00:53:33
    container that you're going to have and
  • 00:53:34
    he's like gosh that's really heavy okay
  • 00:53:37
    that was it end of story and the
  • 00:53:39
    conversation was like this is how we're
  • 00:53:41
    going to do this now we've got a couple
  • 00:53:43
    really precious glass containers do not
  • 00:53:45
    leave them at school don't leave them at
  • 00:53:47
    your dad's this is how we eat now he
  • 00:53:49
    won't use the bamboo Fork we we I can't
  • 00:53:51
    get him to do that yet he still is
  • 00:53:53
    taking a plastic fork but I figure like
  • 00:53:55
    I do it but I
  • 00:53:57
    can speaking of things that need to be
  • 00:54:00
    redesigned which I'm very excited that
  • 00:54:02
    there are teams working on that can you
  • 00:54:04
    talk
  • 00:54:05
    about black takeout containers and the
  • 00:54:09
    evidence that has recently surfaced
  • 00:54:11
    about the chemicals that we thought had
  • 00:54:13
    been legislated out and are still in
  • 00:54:17
    there that one I'm not too up on you
  • 00:54:20
    must you must be getting out tell me
  • 00:54:22
    about it I'm I'm interested to hear the
  • 00:54:23
    short version is that there's flame
  • 00:54:25
    retardant in these black plastic takeout
  • 00:54:27
    containers that are used by you know
  • 00:54:30
    restaurants all over and that
  • 00:54:32
    specifically black plastic utensils have
  • 00:54:36
    been shown to have flame retardant in
  • 00:54:38
    them at levels that were previously uh
  • 00:54:41
    known to be harmful and that we had
  • 00:54:44
    legislated the uh end of and turns out
  • 00:54:48
    that they were never actually removed
  • 00:54:49
    from the
  • 00:54:50
    system wow so those those those little
  • 00:54:53
    packages that we get of the of the spoon
  • 00:54:55
    and the fork combined and uh those
  • 00:54:57
    things with the lids on them those are
  • 00:54:59
    those are flame retardant wow yeah
  • 00:55:02
    leeching flame retardant as well as the
  • 00:55:05
    microplastics it's just on CNN and other
  • 00:55:08
    mainstream Outlets I'm not this is not
  • 00:55:10
    underground
  • 00:55:11
    information so so the the interesting
  • 00:55:14
    thing about that is I'm Pro I haven't
  • 00:55:15
    done research on this Jonathan but I
  • 00:55:17
    imagine that there's probably just a few
  • 00:55:19
    places that manufacture those and they
  • 00:55:21
    get distributed everywhere so that's
  • 00:55:24
    that's interesting Dr schwell please
  • 00:55:26
    tell people where they can follow you
  • 00:55:28
    you have such an incredible um amount of
  • 00:55:31
    information about the flu about covid
  • 00:55:33
    about General Health prevention not just
  • 00:55:35
    about microplastics and things that as
  • 00:55:37
    your wife said will make people want to
  • 00:55:38
    jump off a cliff uh please let people
  • 00:55:40
    know where they can follow you and where
  • 00:55:42
    they can learn um all about your work
  • 00:55:45
    great yeah so the first place is at
  • 00:55:47
    YouTube which uh is medc so
  • 00:55:50
    mecam if you type that into YouTube
  • 00:55:52
    you'll get to um our Channel and also
  • 00:55:55
    for healthcare providers for people that
  • 00:55:57
    are interested in learning in school and
  • 00:55:59
    or for just people who want to know more
  • 00:56:01
    about their medical condition or medical
  • 00:56:03
    conditions in general we have our
  • 00:56:04
    website medcram.com where we have uh
  • 00:56:07
    continuing medical education even uh
  • 00:56:10
    lectures and courses for students at
  • 00:56:12
    universities and things of that nature
  • 00:56:14
    wonderful thank you so much you made
  • 00:56:15
    this very palatable and I'm only a
  • 00:56:17
    little bit
  • 00:56:18
    terrified thank you very much it's my
  • 00:56:20
    beic breakdown she's going to break it
  • 00:56:23
    down for you she's got a neuroscience pH
  • 00:56:26
    b or two fiction and now she's going to
  • 00:56:29
    break down a break down she's going to
  • 00:56:32
    break it down
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