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well everyone I am still traveling in a
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mysterious place that I'm not going to
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tell you about but there is still
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breaking news including some news that I
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find quite shocking you see Colin Mor
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arti who uh runs like Last Stand media
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he is uh like an OG of games journalism
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though as you'll see in this clip he
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doesn't claim to do a lot of like
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journalistic reporting nowadays he's
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more of a commentator and that type of
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thing which is totally fine that's
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probably closer to what I do but he has
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been speaking with at least one person
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involved in the development of Concord
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and he has some like insane things to
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say basically the sentiment is though
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that uh concord's failure is like way
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worse than anybody realizes like there
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was initial reporting you know I was
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saying that I had inferred through
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things and heard through the grap Vine
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This was maybe like
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a $200 million blunder after that there
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were some like bigger news outlets that
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were saying it's definitely like a100
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million blunder so it's not as bad as
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like suicide squad well Colin is saying
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his source that he's verified is saying
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that it cost around
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$400
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million I like that is so much money for
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a game like this at that point like I'm
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starting to wonder if there's like money
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laundering or like criminal activity
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involved because like to spend $400
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million to make a lackluster OverWatch
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ripoff that took almost a decade I don't
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know how you could reach that number
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without just paying everybody in the
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studio
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$250,000 a year letting them work triple
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overtime and Bill it all to the company
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like there's no way to cut this other
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than it being horribly mismanaged at the
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end of the day I I don't know how else
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you could you could conclude um so I
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want to go through this clip because
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it's fascinating and we're going to do a
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good old school style uh react to it
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because again this is crazy this is
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taken from the secret symbols podcast
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that Colin runs with a couple of other
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Bloks and my understanding is it's
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primarily a discussion over PlayStation
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games but uh without further Ado let's
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hear what Colin has to say about Concord
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I want to talk about Concord I wasn't
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going to ever talk about this game again
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because who really gives a however
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and I don't do journalism really anymore
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as you guys know and we talk about this
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a lot I was a journalist at one time and
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I used to break a lot of stories and
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these days I don't really grind like
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that so the stories that I break these
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days are usually people always not
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usually always people coming to
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me and someone who worked on
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Concord um reached out to me and I
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verified who this person was and went
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through all that and talked to this
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person extensively and I I'll say that
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this actually happens more than you
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might realize some people might be
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weirded out at the idea of like a game
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developer reaching out to a YouTuber or
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streamer or podcaster and offering
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information but it actually does happen
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a good amount because like shocker a lot
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of the developers on these games they
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know that this isn't going work or they
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know people aren't going to like it or
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it's not going to sell well or they have
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problems with the direction of some of
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these these
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choices um I I was speaking to another
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developer on a pretty big game recently
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and they were expressing how they were
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not happy with the final product but it
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was out of their control so they could
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just like they could only do so much
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they could only do their part of the
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broader project but they weren't happy
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with a lot of the voices I've even heard
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from from people that have worked on uh
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some pretty sizable flops that everybody
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in the studio knew that that was coming
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and it didn't come as a surprise what
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makes Concord so special is that they
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apparently didn't see it coming and they
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really thought this was going to pop off
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which he'll get to in a second like a
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for a long time and uh got some I think
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interesting information that I can share
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about
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Concord um and uh I think people will be
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interested about it the reason that I
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wanted to talk about about it is because
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some of the assumptions that I had made
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about the game were dead wrong as far as
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how much it cost and how much Sony
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really lost on it so the big thing that
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you really need to know here like when I
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heard him say that I thought oh they
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spent like way less this isn't that big
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of a deal I think uh I think I think
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it's Dustin or Dustin DUS Dustin maybe
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I'm not sure the the individual on the
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bottom of the screen seems to know
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what's coming about this is that um
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Concord cost about $400 million to make
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oh my God and
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um The Story Goes that
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Concord by the time
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Concord was so in the first quarter of
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2023 Concord had basically entered an
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alpha State this was before Sony had
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even purchased the team um but Sony had
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been working with um probably monsters
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and which was the original owner of
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firewalk and firewalk um probably since
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late 2020 maybe 2021 at the latest I
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mean if if anything the takeaway is that
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probably monsters brilliant they figured
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out you don't actually have to make a
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successful live service game you just
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have to make a live service game
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developer who's working on a project and
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then convince big corporations that
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they're going to make billions off of
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the uh the franchise which they
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apparently did because again Sony bought
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this game before anybody had seen it
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like I I was trying to figure out if
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other content creators had like
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consulted on this or tried it years ago
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cuz that happened sometimes there's been
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rumors that like Marathon for example
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has been contacting streamers to like
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try it and give feedback and stuff and
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that happens all the time with like Call
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of Duty they talk to Pros all the time
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and I was wondering if they did
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something like that with Concord but I
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have not been able to come up with
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anybody even speaking like totally
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anonymously not wanting to have their
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name out there obviously nobody
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apparently had seen this game publicly
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it was only behind closed doors
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that Concord was was being talked about
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and Sony was willing to buy out the
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studio it's
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insane uh that they looked at an alpha
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of what we eventually got and thought
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this is ready for prime time like this
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is Big Money stuff I I cannot believe it
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really makes you wonder if the
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executives that made that decision um
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were competent but then again I think
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most of the executives who made that
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decision are no longer at playst
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so that's probably a giveway on Concord
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the game was in development before that
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up to the point that the game went into
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Alpha State um they had already spent
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about $200 million on
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it oh my god dude so part of what makes
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this worse than it sounds already and
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just to hear that like they spent 200
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million to reach Alpha that's like
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levels you would expect to see from like
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uh uh Rock rockar game or like a huge
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AAA multiplatform title you know to
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reach that expense level is impressive
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but it's all the more impressive preco
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like they're saying Alpha was hit
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2023 like early q1 2023 to spend $200
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million before we've like really felt
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the effects of Co and the high inflation
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rates and and and uh everything that's
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come along with you know initially very
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low interest rates and then the FED
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Rising the rates like that's very
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difficult to do to spend
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$200
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million in the late 201s to early 2020s
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it's like you almost have to try to
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waste money to reach that level to have
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an alpha again for a game that had
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basically nothing like it it was a 5v5
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hero shooter with a couple of little
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bitty modes and that's it where did that
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money go I I genuinely don't know how
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this game could possibly cost that much
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and it's unclear how much of that money
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is from probably monsters and the
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original investors into the game and how
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much of that money was from Sony um
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there's this term in in product
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development uh not only with games but
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really with everything you can like
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manufacture a Shashi you guys might have
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heard of it it's called minimum minimum
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viability or a minimal minimum viable
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product
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the idea behind this or MVP the the idea
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behind this is that this is like what
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you're trying to achieve and it's like
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once you cross this barrier you feel
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comfortable selling it it's not that
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it's the best it can be or that it's
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what it's going to be by the time you
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launch it because there's all sorts of
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extra stuff you do to it but like this
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is the minimum viability that makes me
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think of like apple with these new
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iPhones where like they have these AI
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features they've promised but none of
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them are actually ready so I think for
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the Pro Models they're coming day one
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maybe but I think there's still a bunch
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of them that are locked behind betas and
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they'll come next year but it's like
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it's viable they can sell the phone
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based off of that because they at least
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have something to show but it's it's not
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like done they're basically selling you
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a beta of of a product they promise will
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be better in the future that's what that
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makes me think of of the product um when
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the game had already had $200 million
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spent on it and was basically in an
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alpha form quarter one of 2023 from that
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point until the game launched Sony spent
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another $200 million on it the
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scuttlebutt behind the scenes about
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Concord is that the game was in a
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laughable
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shape um when it was shown and ready
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basically like when the alpha was ready
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to go and they were kind of being like
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you know we're ready to kind of get
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moving towards getting this thing out in
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the next year or two it was in such
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horrible shape that Sony felt felt like
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they needed to spend that much money
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again so you know 200 plus 200 to get
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the the game to to the MVP status not to
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the status of it being like a great game
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to get it to just viability presumably
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I'm assuming with like Sony Engineers
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going out because Sony has these things
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I've heard some people refer to them as
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like strike teams but basically it's
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teams of like software Engineers that
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they'll send out to help with
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optimization or ports and stuff because
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they want games to run great on
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PlayStation 5 so they send these teams
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out to help Studios polish and refine
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there were stories of them helping with
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like Hogwarts Legacy they sent teams out
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to help with the port there um so maybe
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that's what he's referring to is that
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they sent a ton of Engineers out to the
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studio at firewalk to help polish and
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refine but again it begs a question if
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it was in a according to a developer if
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it was in a laughable State why did Sony
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buy them for like theoretically 100 $200
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million they bought out all the other
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investors who were $200 million deep and
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based on all of this I don't think they
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were getting a bargain like I
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I across the board it's just bafflingly
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stupid it's unbelievable and that at
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that time in quarter 1 2023 there was
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such there was nothing
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done like a major expense was having to
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urgently Outsource much of the game to
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other Studios to finish
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building the game out and that two
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fundamental things were not worked on at
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all up to the point in which the game
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was shown in Alpha on
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boarding nothing about that no like
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there was nothing about how players get
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on like how they make their character
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all that kind of stuff or you know
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choose their character and get there and
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monetization two very expensive very
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specific and boutique things that happen
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to games like this um and so that's the
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first thing that I wanted to say is that
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it's not only about the going cost which
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would be in the millions to keep the
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game going per month but that the game
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cost about $400 million to make Soup To
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Nuts Sony put most of that money in and
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um it is not only so because we had kind
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of said like this must be Sony's biggest
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loss ever on a game and it is it's the
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biggest game Sony's ever released from a
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budgetary standpoint from the first
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party or second party just let that sink
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in cuz he's right if this game cost $400
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million to make we know for from the
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Insomniac leaks roughly what or was it
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the Insomniac leak or the FTC releases
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either way we know from some releases of
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documents how much like God of War
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Ragnarok cost we know how much
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Spider-Man 2 cost we know how much the
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Last of Us cost and those were all in
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like the $2 to $300 million range this
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game cost twice what The Last of Us Part
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Two made or
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cost which whether you love The Last of
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Us Part Two or not I mean it doesn't
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really matter for this point the point
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is that was an expensive game to make
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that was a game made by Naughty Dog who
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are industry veterans who have uh you
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know world class Talent with Cutting
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Edge Graphics that still hold up you
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know even in this new generation of
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consoles and Concord costs twice what
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that game cost to make you know it's
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this is why like the danger with live
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service stuff is it just turns these
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Executives brains into jelly like they
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just stop thinking critically like does
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this even make sense because they just
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see the dollar sign
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and the potential for it you know with
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like the Scrooge McDuck dollar sign eyes
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it's just unbelievable because this is a
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series of comical errors that should
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have never taken place and it's purely
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based on the the desire for quick and
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easy cash it's this like greedy
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Pursuit which is part of the reason
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people are kind of celebrating its death
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because they're like yeah this type of
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mindset should be punished you shouldn't
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be rewarded for wasting $400 million on
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a game that any one of us could have
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told you was going to flop from day one
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so let that sink in it's crazy and it's
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totally
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unintuitive there are more there are
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games that are in development right now
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it's Sony first and second party that
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are more expensive than this but as of
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the games that have come out so far so
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think about like Spider-Man 2 and so on
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and so forth we know the Last of Us Part
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Two cost $220 million Spider-Man 3 is
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going to cost about $350 million this I
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should have just let this play he's
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saying everything I said more than
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that and they lost all of it because
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they made no money they made about a
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million dollars gross revenue and then
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they gave it all back so this is a huge
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multiple hundreds of millions of dollar
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loss now the question is why why did
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this
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happen this game was heavily championed
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behind the scenes now we know this
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because Sony ended up what's funny is
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that the game is presented
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in this in q1 2023 as this you know
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we're kind of getting towards the end
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the game is nowhere near being done it's
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in a horrible position and then Sony
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buys the team the idea behind this was
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and the term apparently verbatim had
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been used that Concord is the future of
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PlayStation
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what like this is again why I am not s
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to see like Jim Ryan go his vision for
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PlayStation was
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Concord the terminology being used under
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his leadership was games like Concord
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were the future of PlayStation that even
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Concord specifically was going to be the
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future because they expected this to
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blow up which is why they paid for it to
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participate in that Anthology series
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that's coming to Amazon Prime later this
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year it's why they invested so heavily
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in the back end of this you know
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spending $200 million just to get it
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functioning you know after purchasing
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the studio for some reason it's it's
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baffling that they had such major
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ambition for this game that it was
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referred to internally as a Star Wars
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like project for Sony that it can be
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repeatedly Revisited over and over and
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over again not only in Cross media but
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in what we were seeing we've already
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kind of seen a little bits of it so the
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weekly story vignettes that they were
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going to release and then of course
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inclusion in Amazon's um secret levels
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Anthology that's like just scratching
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the surface of it ironically the game
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was code named chaos behind the scenes
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and um a major thing about the game is
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that there was and I think we can kind
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of get this vibe from just the nature of
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the people making it and kind of the way
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the game reads and all that a toxic
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positivity Vibe yeah yeah I think it's
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it's one of the damning red flags for a
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lot of games is if they hear like if
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Gamers hear that criticism and critiques
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are not being
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entertained that should cause major
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concern because that's not a
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collaborative environment collaboration
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is like working with somebody who like
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brings the best out of you because
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they're pushing and prodding and pulling
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and pushing like they're helping you see
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things you don't see by being tough and
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being like ah I don't like that I think
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I'd like this instead apparently Concord
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is just like a drum circle where
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everybody's sitting around patting each
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other on the back and it's just a circle
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jerk of positivity and it it's just
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shocker it didn't result in a good game
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it came out with a game that you can
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tell there was no critical feedback
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involved in you weren't allowed to say
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anything apparently internally about
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this game about how like something's
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wrong with it character designs are not
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right um and so on and so forth they
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really truly believe this is Herman Hol
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baby
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apparently okay I didn't know I didn't
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know that um I will say Herman Hol I
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know there are some people that think
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he's like a potential savior of
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PlayStation but Herman host has been
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there through all of this live service
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BS he's been there through the the green
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lighting of of the PlayStation's like
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live service Ambitions through
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greenlighting the the Last of Us online
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project of course Concord the exclusive
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marketing deals for Suicide Squad like
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he's been involved in all that and then
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his Alma mat the this team over at
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Guerilla he of course is rooting pretty
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hard for the big multiplayer game
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they're working on they're working on a
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huge Horizon themed and uh branded
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basically Monster Hunter game with the
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graphics of fortnite and that's like his
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baby too so I don't think Herman Holst
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is like this great savior of of
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PlayStation either I think he's just the
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last one standing and I would just say
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like at some
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point if you are uh like every time you
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hop on a ship and the ship sinks and
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then you just hop on another ship and
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then that one sinks at some point you
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should wonder if you're doing something
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to cause the ships to sink and for
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Herman I understand that he's a very
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capable guy he comes from gorilla which
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popped off found a lot of
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success but I I don't think he has the
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vision or I I don't think at the very
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least he understands what makes a
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successful major product for for Sony
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and PlayStation and I think that that's
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pretty clearly evidenced in the projects
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that he's green lit and all this should
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make you all the more concerned about
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like the gorilla project and about fair
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games and all the other stuff that
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they're working on because if this was
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their the level of quality quity in
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their decision Mak with Concord like
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there is no way that their quality of
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decision- making and green lighting was
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better with other Studios randomly you
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know it's in this case there's a lot of
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smoke and I think that indicates there's
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a fire and he internally was was himself
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a massive champion of the game so it's
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not that so the reason I'm telling you
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all of this it's some interesting
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information of course but it's that I
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had said when people like Concord lost
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$200 million now people were pulling
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that money out because that's basically
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how much like some of the first party
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games like go sushima The Last of Us
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Part Two Etc kind of cost in that frame
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and I was like there's no way that it
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costs that much I I was saying like it
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cost nine figures probably like low
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hundred million but there's no way it
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cost $200 million no it cost 400 million
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so and I am totally solid on this Source
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by the way so that's why I'm willing to
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share it with you because again I don't
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I'm not really a journalist so yeah the
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big things to take away $400 million
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loss the game was in horrible shape as
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of 18 months before release not even
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monetization no onboarding most content
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not even there the game was in such bad
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shape at that point that they spent the
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budget of it again in Urgent Outsourcing
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to get the game finished from all these
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different angles over an 18-month
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period internally the game was
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considered part of the future of
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PlayStation with heavy cross media
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references and uh system of toxic
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positivity surrounding it that that
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didn't allow anyone to meaningfully
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change the course of the game because if
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you're if the people at the top truly
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believe in something you're you know
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you're not going to be able to do much
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about that I don't think From The
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Trenches and I think it's to be clear
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like there is a problem with this in the
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industry there's a lot of Studios that
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operate like this but I I also want to
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let you know that there are Studios that
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do
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encourage constructive feedback and even
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look for it and pursue it I mean in
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multiple ways some places will like do
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Early Access stuff like balers Gate 3 to
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get player feedback relatively early on
00:22:41
so that they can make changes for the
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final game other Studios might you know
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do like uh demos or betas and open betas
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and stuff very early on and
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so like the point is this is not
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something that there's not a solution to
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you know PlayStation could have
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solicited this type of feedback and and
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fixed the game or seen the problems but
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they didn't want to they had their mind
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made up that this was going to be a huge
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success and they were not willing to
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entertain any other possibility or
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consideration to the point where it
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sounds like if you were in PlayStation
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and you said are we sure this is a good
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idea are we sure this is a $400 million
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quality game you'd get curb stomped
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because verman the boss loves it and if
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you don't like it then you're just a
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Negative Nancy you know that that's not
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a skeptical Outlook that's not a
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rationed reasoned Outlook uh towards
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business that is a business that is
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overly confident and thinks that they
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can do whatever they want without any
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consequence and I think Concord
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demonstrates that pretty clearly so I
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thought people would be interested in
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that and uh just wanted to throw that
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out there that yeah they re Star Wars
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really apparently or I'm sorry Star Wars
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Sony really saw that as a Star Wars like
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project for them like the potential to
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and now it makes sense not only why they
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spent so much money on it but why they
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bought the team so there are people
00:24:09
there and to me it's unclear who exactly
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the people are I know some of the names
00:24:13
I don't want to get too deep into that
00:24:15
because a lot of the things I learned
00:24:16
were off the Record but obviously this
00:24:17
is on background um and it's like yeah
00:24:22
now it makes a little more sense you
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spent and by the way the $400 million
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not included in how much it cost to buy
00:24:26
the team
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well to be
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clear I I would assume the $200 million
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initial
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cost was basically built into the price
00:24:38
of the studio so if they had spent $200
00:24:40
million developing this game that meant
00:24:43
this team was like worth the the price
00:24:46
of the team plus the $200 million
00:24:49
product that they had developed over the
00:24:52
course of the last however many years
00:24:53
while they were developing it so I would
00:24:56
assume it's included roughly maybe they
00:24:58
got a discount on it if the whatever
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monsters team wanted to to just get rid
00:25:02
of it and they didn't want to see the
00:25:04
game through but I mean there is no way
00:25:07
to twist it other than this is a
00:25:09
cataclysmic failure
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and
00:25:14
it the these types of issues are
00:25:17
indicative of a a toxic mindset on the
00:25:22
part of the executives making these
00:25:24
decisions and I don't think it magically
00:25:27
changes is just because Jim Ryan left
00:25:30
Herman
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H is also apparently according to Colin
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Source a champion of this game and if he
00:25:38
thought this was going to be like the
00:25:40
future of PlayStation a Star Wars level
00:25:45
success how
00:25:47
delusional must he be because everybody
00:25:52
that saw Concord knew from the moment
00:25:54
they glanced at it this is going to flop
00:25:58
anybody with two brain cells to rub
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together knew that so how insulated and
00:26:05
how much in a bubble are the the people
00:26:07
making these decisions at PlayStation it
00:26:09
really worries me for the next few years
00:26:12
of PlayStation cuz they've made
00:26:13
consistently horrible decisions and a
00:26:16
lot of these decisions were made 2 three
00:26:18
years ago and we're going to see a lot
00:26:19
more of those decisions come up over the
00:26:22
next couple years as they kind of flush
00:26:25
their way through the pipes and through
00:26:26
the system
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and I think it's going to get worse
00:26:30
before it gets better frankly so I don't
00:26:33
think this will be the last absolute
00:26:36
crap show for PlayStation and I have a
00:26:40
feeling that the next crap shoot show
00:26:43
shoot whatever uh is coming sooner than
00:26:47
people
00:26:48
may expect but for more on that I'll
00:26:52
have to do another video or talk about
00:26:54
it on stream when I get back thanks for
00:26:56
watching I love you all desperate L
00:26:58
thanks for making my dreams a reality
00:27:01
and I'll see you in the next one I'm
00:27:03
going to head back home tomorrow morning
00:27:05
and I cannot wait to see you again and
00:27:07
stream and do stuff like that so much
00:27:09
love I'll see you soon hugs and kisses
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bye-bye he took my
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thing 16 times the detail oh
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