How'd Tom Brady do at the Super Bowl?

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摘要

TLDRThis podcast episode discusses the aftermath of the Super Bowl, focusing on Fox's coverage, the broadcast team's performance, and key moments such as commercials and the score bug controversy. Guest John Oan shares insights on the quality of Fox's presentation, the challenges posed by a blowout game, and Tom Brady's debut as a commentator. They explore how the Super Bowl's ratings could be impacted by the nature of the game and the potential audience draw from cultural figures like Taylor Swift, alongside the implications for future NFL broadcasts and the evolving media landscape.

心得

  • 📺 Fox's Super Bowl presentation was generally viewed as good despite the game being a blowout.
  • 🎉 The pregame show from Bourbon Street provided exciting visuals but received mixed reviews on content.
  • 🛑 Brady's broadcasting debut elicited mixed reactions, with some viewers feeling he needed more natural interaction.
  • 💡 The score bug was a major point of contention, criticized for being excessively large and distracting.
  • 📈 The Super Bowl ratings are anticipated to be significant, though there are doubts about them breaking records.
  • 🏈 NFL broadcasters face challenges as they must cater to both die-hard fans and casual viewers during big events.
  • 🎤 There’s potential for Tom Brady’s commentary to improve with experience, as it's only his first season.
  • 🎵 The commercials during the Super Bowl did not generate much excitement, with few standing out in viewers' minds.
  • 🔄 Future Super Bowls and their media representation are increasingly expected to evolve with new technology and viewing habits.
  • 🤷‍♂️ Public perception of Brady continues to be polarized, affecting his reception as a broadcaster.

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  • 00:00:00 - 00:05:00

    In this bonus episode of SI Media with Jimmy Traina, host Jimmy Traina is joined by John Oan from Puck to discuss Fox's telecast of the Eagles vs. Chiefs Super Bowl. They reminisce about the exciting pregame shows and how the broadcast team handled the game after it became a blowout at halftime.

  • 00:05:00 - 00:10:00

    John shares his overall impressions of Fox's presentation at the Super Bowl, emphasizing the professionalism of the production team led by Brad Zager and Eric Shanks, and notably mentions the engaging pregame content from Bourbon Street.

  • 00:10:00 - 00:15:00

    The conversation shifts to the strange retirement announcement moment involving Jimmy Johnson, sparking discussions about expectations set up by the broadcast team and the awkwardness of the situation.

  • 00:15:00 - 00:20:00

    Jimmy and John discuss opinions on Tom Brady's broadcasting performance, noting that while he's not terrible, he's also not on the same level as other top analysts, given this is his first year in the role.

  • 00:20:00 - 00:25:00

    They delve into comparisons between Brady and other analysts, highlighting their styles, strengths, and weaknesses, stating that Brady appears overly prepared and not natural in his interactions with the broadcasting team.

  • 00:25:00 - 00:30:00

    As the game progressed, they reflect on how Brady's commentary could improve with time, especially during pivotal moments, pointing out missed opportunities to share his knowledge as a quarterback during the game.

  • 00:30:00 - 00:35:00

    Discussing NFL media, they express skepticism about how ratings will turn out due to the blowout nature of the game, while also acknowledging the unique draw of celebrity fans like Taylor Swift.

  • 00:35:00 - 00:44:27

    They conclude by discussing future Super Bowl broadcasting arrangements, touching on the implications of the NFL's broadcast contracts and the potential for streaming services to become more involved.

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视频问答

  • What were the overall impressions of Fox's Super Bowl presentation?

    It was deemed a good presentation despite the blowout nature of the game.

  • How did the commercials fare during the Super Bowl?

    There were no standout commercials; some were entertaining but did not leave a lasting impact.

  • What was the issue with the score bug during the broadcast?

    The score bug was criticized for being too large, causing distractions from the game.

  • Does Tom Brady's broadcasting career have a chance to improve?

    Yes, it's expected that Brady will enhance his performance as he gains more experience.

  • How does the NFL select its broadcast partners?

    The NFL focuses on attracting larger audiences, even if it means changing standards that cater specifically to hardcore fans.

  • Will Fox and CBS maintain strong broadcast teams in the future?

    Yes, Fox has proven to maintain quality despite changes, including the addition of newer commentators like Tom Brady.

  • What is the unique aspect of next year's Super Bowl for NBC?

    NBC will also cover the opening ceremony of the Winter Olympics shortly before the Super Bowl.

  • What trends are seen in NFL viewership numbers?

    Viewership numbers have been fluctuating, influenced by the size of the audience beyond typical football fans.

  • How does Tom Brady's performance and public perception affect his future?

    Public perception of Brady is mixed, but Fox executives believe he will remain a prominent figure in broadcasting.

  • What was the outcome of the Super Bowl in terms of ratings?

    The ratings are expected to be huge, but it was uncertain if they would set a new record, especially given the game's nature.

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    uh let's start I'll just give you the
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    floor here overall impressions of
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    Fox's presentation of the Eagles Chief
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    Super Bowl good bad fine
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    what you got
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    uh overall no overall I think it was it
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    was a good presentation um um I feel bad
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    for Fox I feel bad for any of the from a
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    in a corporate sense I feel bad but uh
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    for for any Super Bowl broadcaster that
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    has to have a uh a blowout like like
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    that the game was over at halftime and
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    then you're you're just trying to fill
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    air a little bit um I Fox's uh a crew uh
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    especially the the guys uh in the in the
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    production truck you know um uh Brad
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    zagger the executive producer is is uh
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    has an excellent reputation Eric Shanks
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    is among the best that have ever done
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    this they always put on a really good
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    professional show I I happen to watch a
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    lot of the pregame show I think the
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    stuff that they did uh from Bourbon
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    Street um uh they had the uh um their um
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    pregame show cast on Bourbon Street and
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    that was that was a really cool visual
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    uh I mean the content is what you would
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    expect from a pregame show I don't think
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    that that you know set the set the world
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    on fire or anything and once uh but but
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    but it was uh I just thought that it
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    looked good it the it really got some
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    excitement going get getting into the
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    game uh and then the game happened and
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    and it's it's just really hard to uh to
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    do it what what were your thoughts well
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    what one thing on the pregame show I
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    didn't
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    watch Mo most of it or any of it I I I
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    put the TV on at about
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    5:00 and I had the TV on with no sound
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    on Fox at that point because I was
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    watching something else on a different
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    TV but I just wanted to have it on in
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    case so you have to keep in mind I'm
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    watching this there's no
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    sound and I look up and I'm like oh I
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    guess Jimmy Johnson is retiring I didn't
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    you know and and then I put the sound on
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    and Jimmy's crying on the stage and then
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    they car man ify says is this a
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    retirement and he goes one day at a time
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    so I was
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    like what just
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    happened that was again I wasn't that
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    was a little bizarre that was you were
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    waiting for the retirement announcement
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    because that was exactly what they had
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    uh been been leading up too and it was
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    almost like he got cold feet at the last
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    minute because of the the question from
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    Kurt like you ask questions every week
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    on this podcast you you know a leading
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    question you when you see it and it
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    seemed like hey do you have something to
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    announce here and uh and there there
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    wasn't yeah and I would love to know I
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    mean you'll never find out
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    but I mean I was expecting Kurt menae to
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    expect Jimmy to say yes he was retiring
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    like it was that made the whole thing
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    even more bizarre so and then I guess
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    you know Fox so I guess there were a lot
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    of people out there like me who thought
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    Jimmy Johnson was retiring and fox ended
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    up I know telling some media people no
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    retirement and it's like okay well then
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    5:00 hour of the Super Bowl you're
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    running that piece what yeah and and the
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    piece also was
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    um uh well the the the that whole
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    retirement aspect of it you're right
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    you're right but then the AI nature of
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    it it's almost like they wanted to show
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    off what they're able to do with uh with
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    artificial intelligence and you know
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    they were able to show him as a college
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    player as a young college coach and you
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    know all the way through and and so I as
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    I was watching it before I thought it
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    was like heading in into a retirement
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    announcement as I was watching it uh you
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    know it just seemed like okay this is
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    what we can do with this new technology
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    that's out there but then when they came
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    back to the set and he's in tears and
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    man's trying to lead him in and I was
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    like wait I think I think we're about to
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    get something here yeah yeah in terms of
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    to answer your question in terms of the
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    the game broadcast I I've said this all
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    along now for several weeks I'm so
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    exhausted by the Brady stuff because
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    it's every week everyone's got to
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    analyze Brady and the problem with Brady
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    is that he's fine he's not great and
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    he's not I mean a lot of people out
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    there want to say he's terrible he's not
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    terrible not terrible that there are so
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    many people judging him unfairly because
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    he's Tom Brady he has seven super bowls
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    he's making $375 million he's not
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    like you can't put him on a level of you
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    know Daryl Johnston or Mark lth who on
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    like the fifth and sixth Cruise like
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    that is ridiculous to say Brady's bad or
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    he's terrible but he's not great he's
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    not Greg olon he's not troyman he's what
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    would you rank him in ter because I
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    don't think anybody's comparing him to
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    the the F fifth or sixth crew right and
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    he was on the fifth or sixth cruise I
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    don't think people would be so maniacal
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    but you have uh Troy Aman on ESPN Tony
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    Romo Chris Collinsworth and Kirk
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    herbstreet is he within
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    those I don't think he's near
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    Troy uh and and I still am of the belief
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    that Romo is very good I think Romo
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    actually I think Romo brings more to the
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    broadcast than Brady right now that's
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    the other thing in all this it is still
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    Tom's first
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    year can we give him a little bit of a
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    chance it's like no he can't he's making
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    $375 million can't give him a chance
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    he's making $375 million a year and and
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    and and usurped a really good booth and
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    you can't like there are too many
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    storylines outside of of of his actual
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    call of the game and for me I don't I
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    don't judge my rankings of a booth based
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    solely on the analyst to me it's the
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    totality of the booth so that's why I
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    think buck and Amman are on whole other
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    level than everyone else
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    because it doesn't get talked about
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    enough but you listen to Joe Buck the
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    smoothness the energy the
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    calls the voice like Joe is Joe and Troy
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    I think are on another level and then I
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    think for me you say who do you want to
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    listen to it would be probably nans and
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    Romo
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    second um I don't think burkart and
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    Brady
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    would I don't think cracked the top four
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    for me and again the best guy out there
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    is Olsen and who the hell knows what's
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    going to happen there but so like with
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    Tom by the way that that's never
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    happened I I I would submit to you in
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    the history of Fox Sports in the NFL
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    which is going back about 30 years
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    now could you en Envision like their a
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    broadcast team you're saying like oh I I
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    they wouldn't crack my top four that
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    that never would that have have happened
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    in the history of Fox Sports that that
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    that that that's significant unto itself
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    I mean this this is a group that really
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    I can't say enough good things about the
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    the production and the and the
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    executives at Fox Sports they lost Troy
  • 00:09:18
    Aman and Joe Buck who you think is the
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    best Booth out there and they they are
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    they're they're they're very very good
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    and they didn't skip a beat they brought
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    in Burkhart they brought in
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    didn't skip a beat and because because
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    Fox is also very good and and and they
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    they are able to do that and you know it
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    does feel like they ski a beat and then
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    yeah it's his first it's his first
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    season and all all this all this other
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    stuff but they SK they did skip a Beed I
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    I they might be in my top four I don't
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    know I'd have to maybe they're better
  • 00:09:52
    than Aman I mean better than Michaels in
  • 00:09:54
    herb street I'm not I don't know
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    but it doesn't feel like for me I I
  • 00:10:02
    always feel like Tom is too prepared
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    overprepared holding back not I think
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    he's trying to be like an NFL
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    broadcaster and not just a regular
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    person that's the impression I
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    get yeah I think that we also have to
  • 00:10:20
    somewhat figure out how he calls a games
  • 00:10:23
    because the people that don't like Romo
  • 00:10:25
    Romo's Romo you know he he sort of he
  • 00:10:28
    brings an excitement he he sort of you
  • 00:10:30
    know he he doesn't predict like he
  • 00:10:32
    predicted at the beginning but he still
  • 00:10:34
    kind of predicts plays and what's going
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    to happen and you know he'll make some
  • 00:10:38
    mistakes but but that's an excitement
  • 00:10:40
    that that CBS likes to have that that
  • 00:10:43
    conveys out there Chris Collinsworth is
  • 00:10:46
    somebody that can take a you know a
  • 00:10:47
    three- yard run and bring it back and
  • 00:10:50
    and talk on a like 50,000 foot level
  • 00:10:52
    about how that three yard run is
  • 00:10:54
    instrumental into this overall story arc
  • 00:10:56
    of a game you know I think I think
  • 00:10:58
    Collinsworth is really good about doing
  • 00:11:00
    that uh Troy Aman um is uh I mean you
  • 00:11:04
    you you said it earlier yourself he just
  • 00:11:07
    is tactically understands the game and
  • 00:11:10
    and uh and and is able to uh take the
  • 00:11:14
    analysis from his brain to his mouth and
  • 00:11:16
    and out to the viewer and and that's not
  • 00:11:18
    always easy as anybody listening to me
  • 00:11:21
    right now probably probably knows and
  • 00:11:23
    like and even even I mean this might
  • 00:11:29
    get better over time but even sort of
  • 00:11:32
    like the little byplay between barart
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    and
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    Brady always seems to just not hit it
  • 00:11:38
    right there was a point in the Super
  • 00:11:40
    Bowl where Tom tried to make a joke
  • 00:11:43
    about Kevin Hart did you hear that and
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    yeah and
  • 00:11:50
    um by the way that that Netflix special
  • 00:11:53
    that he was referencing was was a
  • 00:11:56
    massive success but it was seen by what
  • 00:11:59
    I I like like 40 million 5050 million I
  • 00:12:01
    I don't know what the number is off my
  • 00:12:02
    head a fraction of the number that we're
  • 00:12:05
    watching I was thinking about the poor
  • 00:12:07
    people that are like why is he going
  • 00:12:09
    after Kevin Hart now that that even knew
  • 00:12:13
    nothing about the Tom Brady roast yeah
  • 00:12:15
    so he tried to make like a hey joke
  • 00:12:16
    about Kevin Hart and Burkhart the vibe I
  • 00:12:20
    got at the beginning was like Burkhart
  • 00:12:21
    didn't maybe know the reference but then
  • 00:12:23
    he caught on but then Tom wouldn't even
  • 00:12:26
    say the rose Tom's like well he got me
  • 00:12:27
    pretty good back in May like the whole
  • 00:12:30
    byplay was bizarre between them you know
  • 00:12:33
    it doesn't it just doesn't feel natural
  • 00:12:36
    but again they've only been together for
  • 00:12:38
    a season but over listen I think you you
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    said it it
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    before and I'm writing a column for
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    si.com for Monday people can read it by
  • 00:12:46
    the time this goes up probably I I can't
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    judge them on anything in the second
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    half the Chiefs got the ball to start
  • 00:12:53
    the second half they didn't score that
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    was it lights out the game was over and
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    I you know you got to be careful of like
  • 00:13:01
    getting narratives from Twitter but I
  • 00:13:04
    couldn't believe all the people on
  • 00:13:05
    Twitter referencing 283 and thinking
  • 00:13:08
    that was going to happen again did you
  • 00:13:10
    watch the Eagles defense like there was
  • 00:13:13
    no chance that chiefs were coming back
  • 00:13:15
    when the defensive line for Philadelphia
  • 00:13:18
    was in mahomes's face on every single
  • 00:13:20
    down so that was stupid that the game
  • 00:13:23
    was over when the Chiefs started the
  • 00:13:25
    second half and did not score that for
  • 00:13:27
    me so I I'm not going to judge Tom and
  • 00:13:31
    Kevin on whatever happened in the second
  • 00:13:33
    half because the game was they had
  • 00:13:35
    nothing there to break down what I want
  • 00:13:37
    from an analyst would I judge these guys
  • 00:13:38
    on the most well the number one thing is
  • 00:13:40
    do you annoy me and the second thing is
  • 00:13:43
    by big number one thing yeah right well
  • 00:13:46
    that's why I don't mention Chris
  • 00:13:47
    Collinsworth when you ask me for my
  • 00:13:48
    favorites um I I like Collinsworth he
  • 00:13:51
    doesn't he does a lot of people do I'm
  • 00:13:53
    in I'm in the minority I'm in the
  • 00:13:55
    minority but but not every player is
  • 00:13:57
    great so it gets a little tiresome after
  • 00:13:59
    a while I mean I will never forget as
  • 00:14:01
    long as I live the Jets Chiefs game two
  • 00:14:03
    years ago when he basically had Zack
  • 00:14:05
    Wilson in the Hall of Fame so I I get
  • 00:14:07
    annoyed by that but I what I want from
  • 00:14:11
    an analyst is when it's close late the
  • 00:14:13
    Tactical stuff the timeouts the clock
  • 00:14:16
    management what do you run here should
  • 00:14:17
    you run should you pass how are you
  • 00:14:20
    burning the that's where olssen blows
  • 00:14:22
    everyone out of the water um and that's
  • 00:14:26
    has been very good this year like like
  • 00:14:28
    right wh when he's uh describing a
  • 00:14:31
    two-minute drill and he just sort of
  • 00:14:33
    starts to get get in on that like he's
  • 00:14:35
    done a billion two-minute drills in in
  • 00:14:37
    his career and so that that that I I
  • 00:14:39
    find to be really interesting what I
  • 00:14:41
    think is is difficult is you know you
  • 00:14:44
    mentioned social media and uh I I was I
  • 00:14:47
    was looking on there and people are like
  • 00:14:49
    he talks about you his playing career
  • 00:14:51
    too much and people are saying he
  • 00:14:52
    doesn't talk about his playing career
  • 00:14:53
    too much uh like the the one thing that
  • 00:14:57
    um I have one takeaway
  • 00:15:00
    the uh Eagles were up I have more than
  • 00:15:02
    one takeaway but one takeway is the
  • 00:15:04
    Eagles were up 24 to nothing H going
  • 00:15:07
    into half who would you rather have in
  • 00:15:10
    the booth at that moment than the
  • 00:15:13
    quarterback that engineered the biggest
  • 00:15:16
    comeback in NFL history tell telling us
  • 00:15:19
    stories about what that locker room was
  • 00:15:21
    like what happened who was like banging
  • 00:15:23
    the locker who like and there was
  • 00:15:26
    nothing he didn't know that like like it
  • 00:15:28
    was almost sort of he was still deciding
  • 00:15:30
    whether the the Eagles should run or
  • 00:15:33
    pass with you know 10 seconds left in
  • 00:15:35
    the half it was a it was a swing and a
  • 00:15:37
    miss in my opinion I agree and that's
  • 00:15:40
    why he said earlier about Brady being
  • 00:15:42
    judged unfairly if he talks about his
  • 00:15:44
    playing career people bash him if he's
  • 00:15:46
    not talking about 283 people are bashing
  • 00:15:48
    him
  • 00:15:49
    meanwhile if you think Fox hired him and
  • 00:15:52
    gave him $375 million to not talk about
  • 00:15:56
    his Hall of Fame alltime great playing
  • 00:15:59
    career you're an idiot listen fox has
  • 00:16:03
    been very clear that they would make
  • 00:16:04
    that higher again uh they've been on the
  • 00:16:08
    record saying that he's going to come
  • 00:16:10
    back despite the uh uh uh the ownership
  • 00:16:13
    of the Raiders and the his sort of
  • 00:16:15
    involvement W with that team and I have
  • 00:16:18
    to say they uh I don't know anything
  • 00:16:21
    about the Excel spreadsheets with the
  • 00:16:24
    dollars and cents but it was a good hire
  • 00:16:26
    for them I mean he he brings a and you
  • 00:16:28
    can see in the pregame show he does
  • 00:16:30
    bring an excitement to it and and the
  • 00:16:33
    the part of uh I I do a weekly Brady
  • 00:16:35
    meter as you know in the uh in my um
  • 00:16:38
    private email and it's uh part of the
  • 00:16:40
    reason I do it is just because it's Tom
  • 00:16:42
    Brady and he and he replaced a a really
  • 00:16:45
    good analyst and let's let's let's just
  • 00:16:48
    see how he progresses this all all
  • 00:16:50
    season I thought he had a really really
  • 00:16:52
    good moment late first quarter it was 7
  • 00:16:54
    nothing Philly but the game at that
  • 00:16:56
    point was sloppy it didn't really have a
  • 00:16:58
    flow but teams were the Chiefs
  • 00:17:00
    especially was slow yeah the two bad
  • 00:17:02
    calls by the refs and Brady started
  • 00:17:04
    talking about
  • 00:17:06
    how slow starts in the Super Bowl are
  • 00:17:08
    expected you're on a neutral field
  • 00:17:11
    there's no home field advantage you're
  • 00:17:12
    not you know you have different
  • 00:17:13
    mentality Home Road the game is a much
  • 00:17:16
    longer game than any other game because
  • 00:17:18
    of the halftime that's got to go for you
  • 00:17:20
    know 40 minutes and he talked about you
  • 00:17:22
    playing a 4H hour and 15minute game so
  • 00:17:25
    he said you and I thought that was great
  • 00:17:28
    in it that you get because of his
  • 00:17:30
    experience
  • 00:17:31
    there that's more of that would be good
  • 00:17:35
    yeah yeah I no he certainly had moments
  • 00:17:37
    I I do feel bad for him because he is a
  • 00:17:40
    rookie broadcaster again when I say I
  • 00:17:42
    feel bad it's a it's a measure right I
  • 00:17:46
    know right ex but he's a rookie
  • 00:17:47
    broadcaster and there's a handful of
  • 00:17:51
    people I think I think you and I can
  • 00:17:53
    probably take off maybe three four or
  • 00:17:56
    five who can be effective been a blowout
  • 00:18:00
    and and you know that's where you really
  • 00:18:01
    have to you know bring the John Madden
  • 00:18:04
    type of I mean John Madden is the
  • 00:18:05
    greatest of all time but bring his sort
  • 00:18:07
    of like excitement level uh or you get a
  • 00:18:10
    Storyteller in there and like none of
  • 00:18:13
    this fits in with where Tom Brady is
  • 00:18:15
    right now did you catch the moment late
  • 00:18:18
    the game it was
  • 00:18:20
    346 and the Eagles had destroyed momes
  • 00:18:23
    but they face massed him there was no
  • 00:18:25
    flag and Tom went to Pereira and perea
  • 00:18:28
    was like
  • 00:18:29
    he basically was like annoyed that he
  • 00:18:31
    got called on gave like a one-word
  • 00:18:33
    answer and in the most low monotone
  • 00:18:36
    sound did you C did you catch that by
  • 00:18:38
    any chance I didn't I didn't I didn't
  • 00:18:39
    pick up on any annoyance with with that
  • 00:18:42
    I I I think it
  • 00:18:43
    like I think basically Brady was like
  • 00:18:47
    you know H you whatever and Pere was
  • 00:18:49
    like that's a flag that should have been
  • 00:18:51
    a flag but he said it like why are you
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    bothering me right now
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    heny this is very inside media and I
  • 00:20:53
    think there's probably 10 of us who care
  • 00:20:55
    about this I don't think fox has helped
  • 00:20:57
    Brady by shielding him from people like
  • 00:21:01
    us or any other interviewers or
  • 00:21:03
    podcasters they've only put him they
  • 00:21:05
    they had at the Super Bowl they have an
  • 00:21:07
    annual media day and uh this media Fox's
  • 00:21:10
    media day was on Thursday and that's
  • 00:21:12
    where they roll out all of their
  • 00:21:14
    Executives and all of their talent and
  • 00:21:17
    who was not there the you know the the
  • 00:21:20
    number one broadcast team they they were
  • 00:21:22
    on a um uh earlier on or the day before
  • 00:21:25
    they had had a uh a press conference
  • 00:21:28
    which I know you were on what was that
  • 00:21:29
    like well it wasn't a press conference
  • 00:21:31
    it was a conference call conference call
  • 00:21:33
    that's what I meant yeah no so they they
  • 00:21:34
    didn't even put Tom on video wait that
  • 00:21:37
    was all audio the conference call all
  • 00:21:39
    yeah all audio and it was you know
  • 00:21:42
    everyone asked Tom a bunch of questions
  • 00:21:43
    and you know everyone else poor Kevin
  • 00:21:46
    and Aaron and ronaldi and they got like
  • 00:21:49
    one question each and there were 50
  • 00:21:51
    questions for Tom on the
  • 00:21:53
    phone um you know by the time they got
  • 00:21:56
    around to me they were like oh can we
  • 00:21:57
    limit it to one question you know they
  • 00:21:59
    played that game what was your question
  • 00:22:01
    um I asked
  • 00:22:05
    him if he thought critics have been fair
  • 00:22:08
    and if he has read any of the you know
  • 00:22:12
    reviews of his
  • 00:22:13
    broadcasts and I asked him because when
  • 00:22:15
    I I did speak to him briefly on a p he
  • 00:22:18
    was on this podcast but only for like 10
  • 00:22:20
    minutes before the season and I asked
  • 00:22:23
    him what his biggest concern was going
  • 00:22:25
    into the booth he said he didn't want to
  • 00:22:26
    be overly critical and I asked him if he
  • 00:22:28
    you know had how he felt he did in that
  • 00:22:29
    area um so it was fine but
  • 00:22:34
    again the if you see Aman Collinsworth
  • 00:22:40
    they're they're out there doing
  • 00:22:41
    interview Nance they're like here's the
  • 00:22:43
    thing with fxck they don't like Burkhart
  • 00:22:45
    do
  • 00:22:46
    interviews because they don't want it to
  • 00:22:49
    be about
  • 00:22:51
    Brady that's not going to help you like
  • 00:22:53
    you need to get time out there to show
  • 00:22:55
    his personality win over some viewers
  • 00:22:57
    there were so many people there were so
  • 00:22:59
    many football fans who don't like Tom
  • 00:23:01
    Brady for the simple fact that he's Tom
  • 00:23:02
    Brady and he kicked their team's asses
  • 00:23:04
    for a hundred years and won all those
  • 00:23:06
    super bows get him out there let him
  • 00:23:07
    show his personality let him have fun he
  • 00:23:09
    doesn't have to do my podcast put him on
  • 00:23:10
    any put him on part of my take let him
  • 00:23:12
    have a good time show the Personality
  • 00:23:14
    yeah he's had a lot of uh hits on uh
  • 00:23:17
    Colin coward show that does not count
  • 00:23:19
    that does not count that as the great
  • 00:23:21
    Bob raceman from The Daily News would
  • 00:23:23
    say is a Twinkie Munch that does not
  • 00:23:26
    count so don't tell me about Colin
  • 00:23:27
    coward I don't know about rayan's what
  • 00:23:30
    what did you call it a Twinkie Munch he
  • 00:23:31
    C whenever he Bob raceman of the D the
  • 00:23:34
    media critic for the Daily News for his
  • 00:23:37
    entire career refers to softball
  • 00:23:39
    interviews as a twinky Munch so like if
  • 00:23:43
    I had you
  • 00:23:45
    know you know Derek Jeter on this
  • 00:23:47
    podcast he'd call it a Twinkie Munch
  • 00:23:49
    because I wouldn't ask any hard-hitting
  • 00:23:50
    questions oh right right yeah yeah so
  • 00:23:52
    Tom Brady going on FS1 does not count
  • 00:23:55
    yeah I I have a complaint with with Jim
  • 00:23:58
    Trina I mean because of you I I know
  • 00:24:00
    Derek Jeter's middle name I mean it
  • 00:24:02
    drives me Daddy yeah it's terrible yeah
  • 00:24:06
    but you know that doesn't count so maybe
  • 00:24:08
    next year they'll now I also don't know
  • 00:24:10
    that's the other funny thing is like Tom
  • 00:24:12
    Tom Brady he does have a personality and
  • 00:24:15
    and he and he has a um look he's the
  • 00:24:18
    star quarterback of the greatest
  • 00:24:20
    quarterback of all time he he went to I
  • 00:24:23
    I was in um uh New Orleans this week and
  • 00:24:27
    he went into to the Four Seasons bar
  • 00:24:30
    with Joe
  • 00:24:31
    Montana and I got texted by like three
  • 00:24:35
    different people like they because
  • 00:24:36
    because it was exciting it was like wow
  • 00:24:39
    like they he still has this sort of like
  • 00:24:41
    you know uh um Ju Just magnetism that's
  • 00:24:45
    out there and I I I do question why uh
  • 00:24:48
    uh Fox decided to keep it under wraps as
  • 00:24:52
    for the entire season pretty much yeah
  • 00:24:55
    um blowout game do you think it hurt the
  • 00:24:58
    rating you think they still set a record
  • 00:25:00
    what's your take blow a blowout game I I
  • 00:25:02
    know I was predicting uh a record
  • 00:25:05
    audience before the game because all all
  • 00:25:08
    chiefs games are closed because it was a
  • 00:25:09
    blowout almost certainly uh uh it it
  • 00:25:12
    won't set a record but um uh the neelon
  • 00:25:17
    CH is change they're always sort of
  • 00:25:19
    changing the way that they count uh
  • 00:25:21
    viewers and they they did it again so
  • 00:25:24
    it's they're adding in um uh out of I
  • 00:25:27
    don't want to get too much in the Weeds
  • 00:25:29
    on this podcast but they're adding in
  • 00:25:30
    out of home viewers uh which is going to
  • 00:25:33
    increase it a little bit Fox put it on
  • 00:25:35
    tuby we don't know how many people would
  • 00:25:37
    have watched it uh would streamed it on
  • 00:25:40
    tuby I think the when we see the final
  • 00:25:43
    number it's going to be a uh obviously
  • 00:25:46
    the B the biggest number you know in in
  • 00:25:48
    TV this year but uh I I think it's going
  • 00:25:50
    to be a really really respectable number
  • 00:25:53
    I I don't think that it's Pro I mean it
  • 00:25:56
    has to beat an overtime game that
  • 00:25:58
    from from just last year so it's
  • 00:26:00
    unlikely to do that but I I a quick
  • 00:26:03
    prediction it's going to come out I I'll
  • 00:26:04
    look really stupid but I wouldn't be
  • 00:26:06
    surpris if it's still over 120
  • 00:26:08
    million I had no idea what tub was until
  • 00:26:11
    like two weeks ago when Fox started
  • 00:26:13
    promoting it for the super um and still
  • 00:26:16
    don't really like it's a streaming
  • 00:26:18
    service but I don't know is it like N I
  • 00:26:20
    don't know whatever I don't want to get
  • 00:26:21
    into that
  • 00:26:22
    um I do you don't think see I I think it
  • 00:26:26
    still has a chance for the simple fact
  • 00:26:30
    of
  • 00:26:31
    the
  • 00:26:33
    Chiefs bringing in so many Fringe people
  • 00:26:36
    who don't care about
  • 00:26:38
    football yeah how many of those Fringe
  • 00:26:40
    people stuck around to the end there
  • 00:26:41
    weren't too many Chief touchdowns where
  • 00:26:43
    you have cutaways to Taylor Swift uh
  • 00:26:46
    well that was amazing I think they
  • 00:26:47
    showed her once during the whole
  • 00:26:48
    broadcast the the the one thing that
  • 00:26:50
    that I do go back to is is back when
  • 00:26:52
    Dallas was good uh the Cowboys you when
  • 00:26:55
    when they would win it would be it would
  • 00:26:58
    bring in Monster ratings and when they
  • 00:27:00
    would get blown out it would bring in
  • 00:27:02
    Monster ratings because the number of
  • 00:27:03
    people that hated the Cowboys the Chiefs
  • 00:27:06
    uh they're they're not quite the same
  • 00:27:08
    type of villains as the Cowboys but
  • 00:27:11
    there's a lot of anti- Chief Behavior so
  • 00:27:13
    as you see Patrick momes and Travis
  • 00:27:16
    Kelce going down 24 nothing are people
  • 00:27:18
    reving in that and want to see more of
  • 00:27:20
    it I I don't think they're quite at that
  • 00:27:22
    level yet but that that that could that
  • 00:27:24
    could also help the ratings a little bit
  • 00:27:26
    I'm going to disagree with you there I
  • 00:27:27
    think there's more than you think I
  • 00:27:28
    think there's more than you think and
  • 00:27:30
    the the Taylor Swift fans are deranged
  • 00:27:32
    they will watch the entire game just to
  • 00:27:35
    see if there's a cutaway of her that's
  • 00:27:37
    what they're there for they don't care
  • 00:27:38
    about the score they look they just want
  • 00:27:40
    any cutaway they want to see if Travis
  • 00:27:42
    makes a catch so I don't be I I'm not
  • 00:27:45
    saying they're gonna set the record I
  • 00:27:47
    just wouldn't be shocked if they do
  • 00:27:48
    would I wouldn't i' would be surprised
  • 00:27:50
    if they set the record I wouldn't be the
  • 00:27:52
    shock so whatever that that nebulous
  • 00:27:56
    level is the number is going to be huge
  • 00:27:58
    though it's going to be huge it will be
  • 00:28:00
    huge for sure um I didn't watch any of
  • 00:28:03
    the commercials but that's what a lot of
  • 00:28:04
    people watch for I'm sure people
  • 00:28:05
    listening right now want to know
  • 00:28:06
    something about the commercials so did
  • 00:28:09
    you have favorites what did you think of
  • 00:28:10
    the commercials give give my listeners
  • 00:28:13
    something on the commercials because I
  • 00:28:15
    cannot god well I didn't I I didn't
  • 00:28:18
    really have a favorite on on the
  • 00:28:20
    commercials oh wow um that's not a good
  • 00:28:22
    sign you know none of them none of them
  • 00:28:24
    uh really stood out to me there there
  • 00:28:26
    was uh the one with David Beckham this
  • 00:28:29
    is what I love about the the commercials
  • 00:28:31
    I I the one with David Beckham and um
  • 00:28:35
    Matt Damon and I have no clue what they
  • 00:28:37
    were selling but uh I I watched all 30
  • 00:28:40
    seconds of that
  • 00:28:41
    commercial and I thought it was I I I
  • 00:28:44
    thought it was entertaining and you have
  • 00:28:46
    no idea what it was for what was it for
  • 00:28:48
    in me indeed I have
  • 00:28:51
    no funny I saw it was for a puck to
  • 00:28:55
    subscribe to The Varsity
  • 00:28:58
    good star power I
  • 00:29:01
    saw a couple of weeks ago on Twitter the
  • 00:29:05
    when Harry metali Billy Crystal mag Ryan
  • 00:29:08
    yeah that was there was nothing new or
  • 00:29:10
    unusual when that came in yeah but Brian
  • 00:29:12
    Curtis who covers media as well for the
  • 00:29:15
    ringer made a good point my first
  • 00:29:17
    thought when I saw that commercial
  • 00:29:19
    was there's no mayo on the tables at
  • 00:29:22
    cat's Deli and then no no my thought was
  • 00:29:26
    nobody gets turkey at cats's Deli
  • 00:29:28
    and Brian Curtis tweeted during the game
  • 00:29:30
    he's never seen anyone at cass's Deli
  • 00:29:33
    use mayo and I said yeah no one orders
  • 00:29:35
    turkey CES Deli so that was a
  • 00:29:38
    bizarre um it was nice to see Billy
  • 00:29:40
    Crystal and Meg gryan reunite but didn't
  • 00:29:43
    make if you if you're a New Yorker like
  • 00:29:44
    no one outside of New York understands
  • 00:29:46
    what the hell I'm talking about but
  • 00:29:47
    cat's Deli is this New York City
  • 00:29:51
    institution um Landmark Place for corn
  • 00:29:55
    beef and for pastrami for pastrami
  • 00:29:57
    that's what it's for for and and soup
  • 00:30:00
    matab ball soup and stuff like that the
  • 00:30:03
    turkey and Mayo is not you know if you
  • 00:30:05
    look at the cats is a 12:00 today you
  • 00:30:06
    won't see anyone eating that yeah as you
  • 00:30:08
    know I'm from DC grew up in DC like I
  • 00:30:11
    think I would be scared to order Mayo at
  • 00:30:13
    at cat's Deli yeah The Soup Nazi would
  • 00:30:17
    yell at me couple of things just to look
  • 00:30:20
    ahead here uh MBC has the Super Bowl
  • 00:30:23
    next
  • 00:30:24
    year and then I think the big one for
  • 00:30:26
    people who do what we do and I think
  • 00:30:28
    it'll it'll trickle down to the sports
  • 00:30:30
    fan two years from now so the year after
  • 00:30:32
    next ESPN and ABC finally get back in
  • 00:30:36
    the Super Bowl business they had the
  • 00:30:38
    Super Bowl back in the Monday Night
  • 00:30:39
    Football days I remember uh I think the
  • 00:30:42
    last one maybe was Allan Boomer seison
  • 00:30:44
    doing the Rams and Titans maybe the last
  • 00:30:46
    one yeah I think that was in Detroit if
  • 00:30:48
    I'm not
  • 00:30:49
    mistaken but this new version sort of of
  • 00:30:53
    the ESPN ABC Disney company with Joe and
  • 00:30:57
    Troy get it in years and what I'm
  • 00:30:59
    interested in is there is nothing ever
  • 00:31:02
    that has been hyped like the Super Bowl
  • 00:31:05
    whenever it's on any network and there
  • 00:31:07
    is no company in the world that can do
  • 00:31:09
    hype like ESPN so it will be fascinating
  • 00:31:12
    to see what happens in two years when
  • 00:31:14
    they finally get that Super Bowl can I
  • 00:31:16
    talk about uh next year real quick sure
  • 00:31:18
    go ahead yeah NBC gets it next year NBC
  • 00:31:22
    has done it forever however a couple of
  • 00:31:24
    days before the Super Bowl there they
  • 00:31:27
    they're the opening ceremony of the
  • 00:31:30
    Winter Olympics so they're going to be
  • 00:31:33
    covering the opening ceremony of the
  • 00:31:34
    Winter Olympics which is a huge event
  • 00:31:36
    for NBC then a couple days later they're
  • 00:31:39
    going to be doing the Super Bowl and
  • 00:31:41
    then uh a week after that they're gonna
  • 00:31:43
    have the NBA All-Star Game which I know
  • 00:31:45
    is not of the same level but it still is
  • 00:31:48
    a big level and it'll be the very first
  • 00:31:50
    one for NBC so they they're going to
  • 00:31:52
    have this run of a week and a half of of
  • 00:31:56
    really again people are going to laugh
  • 00:31:59
    that I put the NBA All-Star Game in
  • 00:32:01
    these massive events with the opening
  • 00:32:02
    ceremony in the the Super Bowl but in
  • 00:32:05
    terms of production in terms of a uh
  • 00:32:07
    executive sort of talent needing to be
  • 00:32:10
    there it it's it's going to be a wild um
  • 00:32:13
    a week and a half stretch for those guys
  • 00:32:15
    I'm putting you on the spot because this
  • 00:32:16
    is a year away but do you know I'm
  • 00:32:18
    curious the day the like how the opening
  • 00:32:22
    ceremonies or how
  • 00:32:25
    far before the Super Bowl like a couple
  • 00:32:28
    of days it's a couple of days yeah it's
  • 00:32:31
    not so what I'm because I'm thinking
  • 00:32:33
    about too what's going to go on here
  • 00:32:34
    with too during that time uh so yeah t
  • 00:32:37
    too is uh is the host of the the
  • 00:32:39
    Olympics as you know yep zero chance is
  • 00:32:43
    Mike too gonna give up broadcasting
  • 00:32:46
    being the play uh play on the Super Bowl
  • 00:32:49
    so I I think that he you know the uh
  • 00:32:51
    corporate jet of um and NBC's corporate
  • 00:32:55
    jet is going to be uh going back and
  • 00:32:58
    forth that's usually a week where they
  • 00:33:00
    want the play-by-play guy you saw it
  • 00:33:02
    this week like they want them in that
  • 00:33:04
    host City all week doing you know a
  • 00:33:06
    bunch of nonsense and promotional stuff
  • 00:33:09
    oh yeah you know he I I can see a
  • 00:33:11
    scenario where um they I NBC hasn't
  • 00:33:15
    decided this yet I can see a scenario
  • 00:33:17
    where he is uh going to do the opening
  • 00:33:19
    ceremony because that's sort of like you
  • 00:33:21
    know hosting a a parade and and that
  • 00:33:24
    that's where I think too actually does a
  • 00:33:26
    a very good job with that is one of my
  • 00:33:28
    favorites I think he he's Elite play
  • 00:33:30
    byplay person on Absolut basketball on
  • 00:33:33
    football as well uh and so he he'll do
  • 00:33:35
    the opening ceremony and then and then
  • 00:33:37
    immediately jet to to uh the Super Bowl
  • 00:33:40
    will be in San Francisco uh Santa Clara
  • 00:33:42
    um and so um he'll immediately jet there
  • 00:33:46
    I'm not sure where the NBA All-Star Game
  • 00:33:48
    will fall for him but uh if if I'm NBC
  • 00:33:52
    the Olympics are are certainly actually
  • 00:33:54
    I don't know if they're a priority over
  • 00:33:55
    over the NBA considering it's year won
  • 00:33:58
    so I I spoke too quickly on that one so
  • 00:34:01
    let me let me steal a bit from Andrew
  • 00:34:03
    marshan our dear friend and uh even
  • 00:34:07
    though you know Tom Tom has come out
  • 00:34:10
    this week he said it was my question
  • 00:34:11
    where he said it on that conference call
  • 00:34:13
    that he's around for nine more years and
  • 00:34:16
    his agent has come out recently said
  • 00:34:17
    he's staying with Fox so next year NBC
  • 00:34:20
    has a Super Bowl which John just
  • 00:34:22
    detailed along with the Winter Olympics
  • 00:34:23
    right around the same time two years
  • 00:34:25
    from now it's ESPN AB well it's on ABC
  • 00:34:27
    see but is ESPN production um and then
  • 00:34:31
    three years from now is CBS and then
  • 00:34:32
    four years from now it'll roll back to
  • 00:34:35
    Fox so in four years so that's 2029 will
  • 00:34:39
    that be Burkhart and Brady in the booth
  • 00:34:41
    for Fox oh that's I wasn't expecting you
  • 00:34:43
    to take the question to four years from
  • 00:34:45
    now that's a great that's a great
  • 00:34:46
    question I'm not prepared for that
  • 00:34:49
    one where's Maran we got to get him on
  • 00:34:51
    the line give he can give us the uh the
  • 00:34:53
    Brady meter yeah his his his version of
  • 00:34:54
    The Brady meter by the way we're 30
  • 00:34:56
    minutes in and you finally mentioned
  • 00:34:57
    marshan I like thank you for giving me
  • 00:34:59
    the 30 minutes marshan free half hour
  • 00:35:03
    well he was the one who was saying you
  • 00:35:04
    know every week like whether Brady will
  • 00:35:06
    be doing this next year or what you know
  • 00:35:08
    how many I think you know we've all
  • 00:35:09
    gotten in on it but that Super Bowl the
  • 00:35:11
    next Super Bowl for Brady is in four
  • 00:35:13
    years so we'll have to see all right so
  • 00:35:15
    uh in four in four years uh that here's
  • 00:35:19
    what I'll say I'll just point you to um
  • 00:35:22
    um the Boston Globe columnist Chad Finn
  • 00:35:26
    who who who has
  • 00:35:28
    uh been around Brady and covered not
  • 00:35:30
    been around Brady but covered Brady for
  • 00:35:32
    the Boston Globe during his playing
  • 00:35:34
    career and when uh Tom Brady's agent uh
  • 00:35:39
    came out and said that he was gonna
  • 00:35:41
    honor the contract uh Chad Finn I think
  • 00:35:44
    he went on D's podcast and said he still
  • 00:35:47
    expects him to to not do any more years
  • 00:35:50
    after this year and and he uh I think he
  • 00:35:52
    put it in print as well um I I'm I'm a
  • 00:35:56
    naive sort I take people at their word
  • 00:35:58
    uh the Box Executives expect him to be
  • 00:36:00
    around Brady says he wants to be around
  • 00:36:03
    he he's uh he appears to be having fun
  • 00:36:06
    he appear uh he's making $37 million a
  • 00:36:09
    year to do it I mean could could you
  • 00:36:11
    does anybody have so much money that
  • 00:36:13
    they're going to pass up calling a
  • 00:36:14
    football game for half a year for $37
  • 00:36:18
    million so I will say yes he will be
  • 00:36:20
    around in four years to uh to do that
  • 00:36:22
    Super Bowl all right last one before I
  • 00:36:24
    let you go it was mentioned
  • 00:36:28
    this past week to
  • 00:36:30
    Goodell about the NFL having an out with
  • 00:36:35
    their television
  • 00:36:37
    contracts what year can the is the out
  • 00:36:40
    do you know yeah it's after the uh 2029
  • 00:36:43
    season so so it would be the 2030 Super
  • 00:36:47
    Bowl how on Earth can they not opt out
  • 00:36:50
    with these streaming
  • 00:36:52
    services uh well I think they're going
  • 00:36:55
    to opt out I I I think it's almost
  • 00:36:57
    certain they're going to opt out but let
  • 00:36:59
    me answer that question how why why
  • 00:37:01
    might they not is you said everything is
  • 00:37:05
    going so fast right now so like what
  • 00:37:08
    happens if you know somebody buys Fox
  • 00:37:12
    and and and or or a couple of the
  • 00:37:14
    broadcast networks merge or and and all
  • 00:37:17
    of a sudden you don't have as many
  • 00:37:18
    biders uh that are out there one thing
  • 00:37:21
    one red flag for the NFL which is she
  • 00:37:25
    massively massively success ESS F of
  • 00:37:28
    course for the in terms of media is that
  • 00:37:32
    they right now they kind of have enough
  • 00:37:35
    packages for the same number of biders
  • 00:37:38
    and the the reason the NBA uh was so
  • 00:37:42
    successful in its media rights is that
  • 00:37:44
    they had one more bidder than the number
  • 00:37:46
    of packages so it just drove drove the
  • 00:37:48
    rights up so why wouldn't you come out
  • 00:37:50
    maybe maybe Netflix is decides I don't
  • 00:37:53
    want a Sunday Night Football package or
  • 00:37:56
    or the Sunday afternoon packages and and
  • 00:37:59
    and so that could be a reason there I
  • 00:38:02
    don't think I think it's certain that
  • 00:38:03
    they're going to opt out and I think
  • 00:38:05
    it's certain that more more biders are
  • 00:38:07
    going to come in there but there is
  • 00:38:09
    something that I called it a red flag it
  • 00:38:11
    should probably be more of a you know
  • 00:38:12
    yellow flag or something that's out
  • 00:38:14
    there but uh that that's uh that's just
  • 00:38:17
    something to
  • 00:38:19
    consider yeah it just it just seems with
  • 00:38:23
    Netflix Amazon and apple lurking it
  • 00:38:25
    would make no sense with the NFL and not
  • 00:38:27
    out but we'll see what happens and and
  • 00:38:30
    like you said who knows what where
  • 00:38:32
    networks will be in in four years it's
  • 00:38:35
    like you said it's moving so fast I mean
  • 00:38:38
    could you imagine Netflix getting uh
  • 00:38:41
    getting NFL games uh like four or five
  • 00:38:44
    years ago like like and and actually
  • 00:38:47
    like bring in the audiences that they
  • 00:38:49
    did I that's well that's why I think
  • 00:38:52
    this is all realistic because when you
  • 00:38:54
    see what the audiences are on when you
  • 00:38:57
    the audience for Netflix on
  • 00:39:00
    Christmas Amazon Prime each year seems
  • 00:39:03
    to be getting more and more viewers for
  • 00:39:04
    Thursday night just seems inevitable
  • 00:39:07
    with all that money they had that they'd
  • 00:39:09
    want a piece of the pie yeah but then
  • 00:39:11
    you know maybe they're they're getting
  • 00:39:12
    the subscribers and they don't need as
  • 00:39:14
    much content in order to to get them in
  • 00:39:18
    so I mean that's
  • 00:39:19
    a that's if you're Amazon are you happy
  • 00:39:22
    enough with Thursday night football
  • 00:39:24
    because if you're an NFL subscriber you
  • 00:39:26
    got to you got to do Amazon Prime all
  • 00:39:28
    the time why should I spend more to get
  • 00:39:30
    a better package when I'm I'm they're
  • 00:39:33
    already coming in to see my Thursday
  • 00:39:34
    night football what incrementally how
  • 00:39:36
    much more can you get all right well at
  • 00:39:39
    least we don't have to worry about it
  • 00:39:40
    for four years
  • 00:39:41
    so I have to worry about it that you
  • 00:39:44
    just Define what I'm gonna be writing
  • 00:39:45
    about for the next four years yeah all
  • 00:39:47
    right so overall Fox Super Bowl
  • 00:39:50
    telecast was fine was good
  • 00:39:54
    fine I I find it hard to actually put a
  • 00:39:56
    grade to it just cuz like it was a
  • 00:39:58
    blowout it's so hard you know I agree
  • 00:40:01
    age uh one thing you didn't bring up I
  • 00:40:02
    was expecting you to bring up my my uh
  • 00:40:05
    social
  • 00:40:07
    feeds Furious to see the score bug yeah
  • 00:40:11
    here's how I know something's a disaster
  • 00:40:14
    when I don't tweet about something and I
  • 00:40:16
    get people bombarding me with what do
  • 00:40:18
    you think of what do you think of what
  • 00:40:20
    do you think of so you know I I wasn't
  • 00:40:22
    on Twitter maybe for the first five
  • 00:40:24
    minutes of the game because I'm trying
  • 00:40:26
    to
  • 00:40:27
    get a feel for the game you know here
  • 00:40:30
    Brady start you know the game I didn't
  • 00:40:31
    check Twitter for maybe five 10 minutes
  • 00:40:33
    and and then the first time I checked it
  • 00:40:35
    into the game my whole it was just all
  • 00:40:37
    people asking me about the score bug and
  • 00:40:39
    ripping the score bug it's just too big
  • 00:40:41
    it's just way too big it was fine if you
  • 00:40:43
    could shrink it but it's too big yeah I
  • 00:40:45
    didn't I didn't mind the square bug I
  • 00:40:47
    the thing about Square bugs to me is you
  • 00:40:48
    get used to them eventually so you know
  • 00:40:50
    right well that's true but smaller is
  • 00:40:53
    better yeah I I I I could see where they
  • 00:40:55
    would make it smaller it was very
  • 00:40:57
    minimalist though I mean it was a and it
  • 00:41:00
    showed it despite the fact that it was
  • 00:41:03
    big I I still felt like I could see more
  • 00:41:05
    of the screen you know like more more
  • 00:41:07
    the the the action on the field but
  • 00:41:10
    here's what I don't understand this may
  • 00:41:11
    be hard to explain on a on an audio
  • 00:41:14
    podcast or when you don't see the
  • 00:41:15
    graphic but like it it would have like
  • 00:41:17
    you know K it would say KC and the score
  • 00:41:20
    in a monster font and then next to it
  • 00:41:23
    would be open space and then it would be
  • 00:41:27
    like the clock I think and then open
  • 00:41:30
    space and then F but why not just kill
  • 00:41:33
    the open space and shrink it and then
  • 00:41:34
    it's smaller and I don't know I the
  • 00:41:38
    score buug to me is someone saying look
  • 00:41:41
    how fancy I can get look at me look at
  • 00:41:44
    me look at me that's what the score
  • 00:41:45
    there's someone out there like watch
  • 00:41:46
    what I'm going to invent it it happens
  • 00:41:49
    every Super Bowl every big event uh is
  • 00:41:52
    an opportunity to just upgrade you know
  • 00:41:55
    they don't want well that's go ahead I'm
  • 00:41:57
    sorry
  • 00:41:58
    they don't want to have the same look
  • 00:41:59
    for 30 years CU that become especially
  • 00:42:01
    in TV that that just looks old and stale
  • 00:42:03
    so it's you know it is almost more of a
  • 00:42:05
    marketing aspect right but it also shows
  • 00:42:08
    you and this has been my mantra for
  • 00:42:10
    years and this is what sports fans need
  • 00:42:12
    to understand the Super Bowl is not
  • 00:42:14
    about the sports fan the NFL Fox CBS NBC
  • 00:42:18
    they don't care about the NFL fan when
  • 00:42:21
    it comes to the Super Bowl because if
  • 00:42:22
    they cared about the NFL fan they
  • 00:42:24
    wouldn't change the score bug for the
  • 00:42:26
    final game the season and the most
  • 00:42:28
    important game of the season and cause
  • 00:42:29
    an upro about the scoreboard but they're
  • 00:42:31
    interested in the 70 million people who
  • 00:42:33
    don't watch football that decide to
  • 00:42:36
    swoop in to watch Taylor Swift and Lady
  • 00:42:38
    Gaga and Kendrick Lamar they don't give
  • 00:42:39
    a about the person like you and me
  • 00:42:42
    who are there every Sunday from
  • 00:42:43
    September to January and that's what
  • 00:42:45
    people have to understand but in if you
  • 00:42:48
    think about it logically even take it
  • 00:42:49
    outside of any like this is your biggest
  • 00:42:51
    day of the year this is the last game of
  • 00:42:54
    the year let's change it it doesn't
  • 00:42:56
    that's ridiculous like no one would
  • 00:42:58
    think that way in a normal setting but
  • 00:43:00
    they don't care about the sport fan
  • 00:43:01
    who's watching the game so
  • 00:43:04
    funny Sorry Sorry by the way I I I I've
  • 00:43:08
    been a guest on enough podcasts I know
  • 00:43:09
    I'm supposed to jump in but that was
  • 00:43:11
    such an elite rant that I just wanted to
  • 00:43:13
    let you go sorry I I appreciate it
  • 00:43:15
    that's good then we can we'll cut that
  • 00:43:17
    clip then for social all right John I
  • 00:43:19
    appreciate it especially you know early
  • 00:43:20
    on a Monday morning and uh enjoy now no
  • 00:43:25
    NFL well my TPS are doing well in
  • 00:43:27
    college basketball
  • 00:43:29
    so I'm going to have stuff to watch yep
  • 00:43:32
    March Manis will be here before you know
  • 00:43:33
    it and AD
  • 00:43:35
    Rush at at the plate and it'll you know
  • 00:43:39
    within like two months I think when do
  • 00:43:40
    pitchers and catchers report couple
  • 00:43:42
    coule I think this week I think this
  • 00:43:43
    week crazy all right John oan Puck and
  • 00:43:46
    the varsity podcast thanks John
  • 00:43:48
    appreciate it anytime man all right take
  • 00:43:50
    it
  • 00:43:51
    easy all right my many many thanks for
  • 00:43:53
    John oan joining me on Monday morning
  • 00:43:55
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