Microsoft Abandons C# and .NET !!!1!1

00:07:11
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RD421VBgEQk

摘要

TLDRA Microsoft fejlesztői hír frissítésben bemutatják a gyorsabb TypeScript fordítót, amelyet Go nyelven fejlesztenek, nem pedig a .NET vagy C# nyelven. Ez a váltás vitát váltott ki a fejlesztői közösségben, különösen a TypeScript C#-hoz való kötődése miatt. A helyzet szélesebb körű aggodalmakat tükröz a Microsoft nyelvválasztásának irányával és a C# és .NET iránti elkötelezettségével kapcsolatban. A fejlesztőket arra bátorítják, hogy alkalmazkodjanak és tanuljanak új nyelveket, például a TypeScript-t és Go-t, miközben kérdőjelezik meg a C# jövőjét a Microsoft ökoszisztémában.

心得

  • 🚀 TypeScript's new compiler is being developed in Go for speed improvements.
  • 🤔 The community is surprised by the use of Go instead of C# or .NET.
  • 💡 TypeScript conversion to JavaScript is currently handled by a TypeScript-based compiler (TSC).
  • 🔄 Microsoft aims for a native executable to enhance TypeScript performance.
  • 😟 Concerns arise over Microsoft's commitment to C# and .NET with this direction.
  • 👨‍💻 Developers need to adapt and learn TypeScript and Go.
  • 📉 Mixed messages from Microsoft lead to uncertainty for C# developers.
  • 🛠️ There are existing Rust transpilers for TypeScript to consider.
  • 📅 The TypeScript and web build tools ecosystem may pivot toward Go.
  • 🙏 Developers wish to see more projects developed in the .NET framework.

时间轴

  • 00:00:00 - 00:07:11

    A Microsoft ma reggeli hírei között felfedeztük, hogy a TypeScript tízszer gyorsabb lett, mivel a Microsoft egy natív porton dolgozik. A TypeScript Compiler (TSC) jelenleg TypeScript-ben van írva, ami lassú, ezért a cél egy gyorsabb, natív megoldás bevezetése. Mivel a .NET nem volt megfelelő, a Microsoft a Go nyelvet választotta, ami meglepő, tekintve, hogy ők maguk a C#-t fejlesztik. A közösség reagálása vegyes, sokan aggodalmukat fejezik ki amiatt, hogy a cég nem a saját termékeit használja.

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视频问答

  • Why is TypeScript's new compiler being developed in Go?

    Go is efficient for creating native executables, making it suitable for the new TypeScript compiler.

  • What are the concerns about this decision?

    Developers are worried about Microsoft's commitment to C# and .NET, given that they chose Go instead.

  • Who created TypeScript?

    TypeScript was invented by Anders Hejlsberg, who also created C#.

  • Should C# developers learn new languages?

    Yes, it's recommended to learn TypeScript and Go to stay updated with industry changes.

  • What are the implications of using Go for TypeScript's compiler?

    It could lead to a shift in the TypeScript and web build tools ecosystem toward Go.

  • Is C# still relevant?

    Yes, but there's uncertainty about its future direction within Microsoft.

  • How can .NET improve according to developers?

    Developers want to see more focus on building tools and projects in .NET.

  • What was the community's reaction to using Go?

    The reaction has been mixed, with frustration over the choice and uncertainty about the future.

  • Are there alternatives to Go and C# for building TypeScript tools?

    Yes, developers have mentioned existing Rust transpilers for TypeScript as alternatives.

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    Oh, yes! Let's look at some Microsoft developer  news this morning. What have we got? A
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    TypeScript that's ten times faster, woohoo!  Let's see how they've achieved it. Oh, yes,
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    okay. They've been working on a native port of  TypeScript. Yes, let's go. Oh, yes, a new TSC. Oh,
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    you can build and run the Go code? No, no, no, no,  this is incorrect. This should be .NET, not Go.
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    In all seriousness, let's actually  take a look at what is happening.
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    We're going to delve into it. We  have TypeScript files, TS files,
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    yes, but the browser uses JavaScript files,  we know this. TypeScript itself, however,
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    is a project that doesn't just contain this  beautiful language written by Microsoft's finest,
  • 00:01:01
    but also has what they call a compiler, known  as the TypeScript Compiler, or TSC. Now,
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    I wouldn't call it a compiler, it's a transpiler  because it converts TypeScript to JavaScript.
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    Currently, within the TypeScript project, this  compiler is actually written in TypeScript itself,
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    which makes it quite slow. We all  complain about how long it takes
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    for these projects to work. It's compiled  by itself, it's a circular process. The
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    JavaScript runs on Node.js to actually  turn your TypeScript files into JavaScript.
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    The goal is to upgrade this  to something faster, native,
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    and not written in TypeScript or JavaScript  itself, and certainly not running on Node.js.
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    Microsoft has an amazing programming  language, you might have heard of it,
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    it's called C#. They also have a great runtime,  it's called .NET. It compiles to native code as
  • 00:02:03
    well. But instead of C# and .NET, which would  have been cool, they've just decided to use Go.
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    The response has been shocking,  as usual. Here's the repo,
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    Microsoft TypeScript Go. Go being a Google  programming language, obviously. Why not?
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    In typical fashion, we have a pivotal GitHub  issue. We're going to give the community 500
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    words to justify a decision. Language  choice is always a hot topic, says Ryan.
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    Basically, they need a native executable to  be used as a compiler, and Go is very good
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    at this. .NET is not quite there yet. The AOT  stuff isn't perfect. Bring back native .NET,
  • 00:03:01
    that was cool. .NET Native from  UWP days, that was quality.
  • 00:03:06
    So, the choice of Go is quite surprising,  given that Microsoft makes C#. This is
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    carnage. Neon Sunset says reflection is fully  supported on Native OT. This is not helping
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    the allegations that Microsoft doesn't  use their own products. This is carnage.
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    Who's going to refactor the code in a week?  I haven't thrown my hat in the ring yet,
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    but I might. The agony that's going on  here is justified, I think. Nick here goes,
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    "I won't be making C# videos any longer." Very  funny. But why are people so upset about this?
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    Well, last year, Microsoft decided to  put some job ads out to work on some
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    core stuff for Microsoft 365. Instead  of looking for C# and .NET developers,
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    they decided to look for Rust  developers. This caused a big stink.
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    But this is just Microsoft 365, so developers  don't particularly care about it. This is just
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    a sub-team. However, TypeScript was  invented by the guy who invented C#,
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    Anders. If this guy, who invented C#, is not  going to invest time in making C# and .NET
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    good enough to be used as a scripting language  transpiler, which is what TSC is, is it all over?
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    The somewhat good news is that the C#  and .NET guys are not the only ones
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    annoyed by this, so are the Rust guys. There  are already Rust transpilers for TypeScript if
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    we needed something to speed up web compilation.  If they wanted to use Zig, this exists as well.
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    The optics need serious improving. With all  this mixed messaging, what should a C# developer
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    do? You should stick with C#, yes, and I  keep talking about this on this channel,
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    but you should also learn TypeScript. For  the love of God, please don't fall into
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    this belief that C# does everything on planet  Earth. It can do many things, it can do desktop,
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    it can do mobile apps, it can do SPAs with  Blazor, but give it a rest. Learn TypeScript.
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    You should also be dabbling in Go. If you're  doing web services, Kubernetes is all written
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    in Go. The TypeScript compiler  is about to be written in Go,
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    which means the entire ecosystem of  TypeScript and web build tools will
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    end up in Go. If you're a low-level guy, you  might want to have a look at Rust as well.
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    Is C# still going to be a thing going forward?  The mixed messages from Microsoft really worry
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    me. Microsoft guys, I know some of you watch  this channel. Please, we need a win here.
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    .NET needs a win. Build something in .NET  for a change, please. I'm begging you.
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    It's all I ask. People are struggling  out here. Alright, thanks for watching.
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