I Delivered Food To Find Out…Can These Apps Survive?

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8V9ypoULc0I

摘要

TLDRThe video explores the current state and challenges of the food delivery app industry, with a focus on major players like Grubhub, UberEats, and DoorDash. Despite generating significant revenue, these apps have not reached profitability due to their complex business models and low profit margins. A central challenge is the compensation of workers, who are classified as independent contractors, leading to a controversial reliance on customer tips. Legal actions and new regional laws, like New York City's minimum wage for active hours, force these apps to adapt their payment structures, often passing costs onto consumers or adjusting operational approaches. Companies are attempting to resolve financial challenges through strategies like order batching, expanding into grocery deliveries, and exploring technological solutions such as drone and self-driving car deliveries.

心得

  • 📦 Food delivery apps revolutionized the market but remain financially unsuccessful.
  • ⚖️ These apps face challenges like complex models and inadequate worker pay.
  • 👷‍♂️ Drivers are independent contractors, heavily reliant on customer tips.
  • 📉 The industry's unprofitability stems from low margins and complex business model.
  • 📜 New laws, like NY's minimum wage for active hours, reshape payment models.
  • 💡 Companies are pushing towards tech solutions like drones to cut labor costs.
  • 📈 Strategies include order batching and expanding into grocery delivery services.
  • 📊 Revenue is high, but operational profitability is elusive for these companies.
  • 💲 Costs are often passed to consumers under new regulatory fees.
  • 🚀 Future potentially lies in automation to replace manual labor.

时间轴

  • 00:00:00 - 00:05:00

    The video discusses the impact of delivery apps like Grubhub, UberEats, and DoorDash, which have revolutionized the delivery marketplace but have never been profitable. Although their revenues are in billions, they face issues such as complex business models and labor costs management. They operate within a four-sided marketplace comprising apps, restaurants, deliveries, and customers. Historically, they took losses to focus on growth, paying drivers through a combination of base pay, bonuses, and customer tips. To inch towards profitability, apps might increase charges on restaurants or customers or reduce driver pay. However, these changes have complex ramifications given the thin profit margins across the ecosystem.

  • 00:05:00 - 00:11:32

    The challenges facing food delivery apps are exacerbated by labor dynamics and regulatory responses. Apps pay drivers as contractors, not employees, minimizing their costs but causing pay variability dependent on customer tips. The NYC minimum wage law for delivery drivers enforces pay adjustments to meet minimums but isn't applicable for 'active hours,' resulting in mixed benefits. Apps have retaliated with changes affecting service areas and tips in response to new laws, such as removing pre-tip options. Discussions are ongoing about reclassifying gig workers as employees, with implications for profitability. Apps are exploring strategies like batching deliveries, grocery delivery expansion, and tech-driven solutions like self-driving vehicles to address operational challenges and enhance profitability.

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常见问题

  • Why are delivery apps not profitable?

    Delivery apps are not profitable due to a complex business model, low margins, and challenges in effectively compensating labor.

  • How do delivery apps manage payments for drivers?

    Delivery apps adjust drivers' payments relying largely on customer tips, with a smaller base pay and bonus structure.

  • What role do customers play in compensating gig workers?

    Customers' tips are crucial, making up a significant portion of gig workers' pay as apps encourage higher tipping to offset reduced base pay.

  • What legal status do delivery drivers have?

    They are classified as independent contractors, not employees, allowing companies flexibility in pay structures.

  • How are new government regulations affecting delivery apps?

    Government regulations like minimum wage laws for active hours are forcing apps to adjust pay practices and pass costs to consumers.

  • What strategies are delivery apps considering to increase profitability?

    Apps are exploring order batching, expanding into grocery delivery, implementing subscriptions, and using technology like drones and self-driving cars for deliveries.

  • What does the future hold for delivery service labor?

    Delivery services are moving towards automation to replace human labor and mitigate costs.

  • How do changes in pay affect delivery drivers?

    Drivers face variable and depend on tips more heavily, risking inconsistent earnings despite being more protective with minimum wages.

  • Has the New York's minimum wage law for drivers improved conditions?

    Yes, conditions have improved with earnings increasing between 20-50%, though there's been retaliation from companies.

  • What challenges do apps face with international labor laws?

    Apps face challenges in complying with diverse international labor regulations, affecting profitability and operational practices.

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  • 00:00:00
    When was the last time you wanted delivery and you actually called a restaurant
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    to place your order?
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    It's probably been a while, and it's thanks to apps
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    like Grubhub, UberEats, and DoorDash.
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    So if a few apps have totally changed
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    the delivery marketplace, they must be making bank right?
  • 00:00:13
    Their revenue is in the hundreds of billions.
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    Investors have poured billions into them.
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    But none of these apps have ever been profitable.
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    They have a few problems a complex business model, low margins.
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    But their biggest problem is
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    that they've never really figured out how to pay their labor.
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    And they've been experimenting a lot with that.
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    So much that governments have had to intervene. So
  • 00:00:33
    all of these problems raised the question can these apps, in their current form
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    exist for much longer?
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    So yeah, I've been reading up on financial statements and legislation,
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    but there was no way I was going to make a video about food delivery
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    without actually delivering some food.
  • 00:00:50
    Oh, So chaotic.
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    Derek, I'm doing my best.
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    I'm really jealous of your lunch.
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    Are my tires flat? No.
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    Making an app for people to order food delivery might seem pretty simple, but
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    in reality, all the pieces that the apps are trying to balance are pretty complex.
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    These apps work within a four sided marketplace of the apps, restaurants,
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    deliveries, and finally,
  • 00:01:18
    the customers and the apps control each aspect of the marketplace.
  • 00:01:21
    Historically, they just took a loss
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    and made sure everyone else got paid while they focused on growth.
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    Here's how one order broke down in 2019.
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    As best as we can figure out, because they don't release the stuff publicly.
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    When a driver got paid from DoorDash, 49.4% came from the base pay,
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    which is the flat amount they're guaranteed when accepting an order.
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    12.3% came from bonuses
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    and 38.4% came from the customer to pay for Uber Eats, drivers got 71.7%
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    from base pay, 7.5% from bonuses and 20.9% from the customer tip.
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    The apps have a few levers they can pull to get closer to profitability.
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    They can charge the restaurants more,
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    but restaurants already
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    have such thin margins that they might not want to keep selling on the apps.
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    And some restaurants are already inflating their menu prices
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    on the apps to make up for the costs.
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    They could charge customers more, but people are already fed up
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    with how much the apps cost, and they could pay themselves less,
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    but they're already not making a profit, so that seems unlikely.
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    So that leaves just one side of the marketplace, the deliverers.
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    All right. I just got to my first order.
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    it's somewhere right over here.
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    Does that work?
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    Now I have to take a picture.
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    Beautiful.
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    Thank you so much.
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    Derek, I'm doing my best with your lunch.
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    I'm so sorry.
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    It says we're supposed to deliver within three minutes,
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    which is never going to happen.
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    No wonder, like, your DoorDash order is always late.
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    This is why it's incredible that it's ever been on time.
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    And I'm earning $5.75 for this.
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    Just so we're all aware.
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    All right.
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    We just got to Derek's.
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    We are currently 11 minutes late.
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    Hi, I have a DoorDash order for Derek.
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    Thank you.
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    The reason that the apps are able to get so creative with how they pay
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    their employees is that they're not actually classified as employees.
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    Legally, they're contractors.
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    Gig workers, 51% of their income on every delivery on average is coming from the customer.
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    That is Ryan Green.
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    He's the CEO of Grid Wise, a companion
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    app for gig workers that collects data so they can maximize their earnings.
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    The consumers are being relied on
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    to actually front the pay for the gig worker more than ever before.
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    The apps wanted to lower cost by paying workers less,
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    but they didn't want to lose workers, so they started encouraging customers
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    to tip more so the workers wouldn't see as much of a drop in pay.
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    Here's how the pay breaks down before
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    and after the changes for DoorDash based pay decreased to 48.2%.
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    Customer tips increased to make up 51.8% of drivers total pay.
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    Uber Eats had an even bigger jump in customer tips, jumping almost 30%.
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    So now drivers are getting pay.
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    That's highly variable and dependent on tips,
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    but how does that compare to what the apps promised?
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    We see how, like Uber, Grubhub, continuously recruit
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    and have a strong marketing campaign to sell the perception that look,
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    these are easy, accessible jobs.
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    That's Ligia Guallpa.
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    She's the executive director of the Workers
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    Justice Project, which advocates
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    for the city's gig workers, domestic workers and construction workers.
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    What these companies failed to inform and communicate to workers
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    is that these are jobs that do not offer the flexibility that they promised.
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    With the companies advertised to potential deliverers.
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    Is being able to work on your own time at your own pace.
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    But Ligia says in practice, that's not how it works.
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    Companies is incentivizing workers to drive faster,
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    to do more deliveries, to work more hours.
  • 00:04:38
    Another piece of these labor issues, especially in New York,
  • 00:04:41
    is that many of these workers
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    are working illegally as they wait to obtain a work permit in the US.
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    One of those immigrants working on an illegally rented Uber Eats
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    account is Mayco Milano an immigrant from Venezuela who's been delivering
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    food in New York City since he arrived almost a year ago.
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    Renting the account means he actually earns
  • 00:05:07
    even less money because he has to pay the person who actually owns the account.
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    A woman named Jessica. Mayco is hardly alone.
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    He told us that he started working in food delivery because his friends told him
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    it's the only job you can work without having a work permit.
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    And the apps are aware of this, a senior policy manager at Uber
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    told The New York Times.
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    Uber supports open access to work, but we have processes in place
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    to help prevent and take action on fraudulent behavior on Uber's platform,
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    and will take additional steps if warranted.
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    So these apps already weren't profitable.
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    They have a s*#t show of labor issues with figuring out pay, trying
  • 00:05:38
    to live up to promises, dealing with workers renting out accounts.
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    And then the government showed up.
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    More on that later.
  • 00:05:44
    Got another order.
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    It's time to go.
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    I have a DoorDash order for John.
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    Thanks.
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    This one was an easier pickup than the last one for sure.
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    All right, we're supposed to deliver within six minutes.
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    It says take a seven minutes to get there.
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    We are doing pretty good
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    on time here.
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    All right, John is rich.
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    If John doesn't tip.
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    Thank you John!
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    I'm sorry for everything I said about maybe you weren't going to tip.
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    You did. Thank you.
  • 00:06:24
    Late last year, New York City became the first place in the country
  • 00:06:27
    to implement a minimum wage for delivery drivers.
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    But that's not per hour.
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    Its per active hour, which, according to DoorDash, is
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    from when I accept an order to when that order is dropped off.
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    So all this time that I'm biking back to the order hot spot
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    or waiting around for an order, I'm not actually being paid.
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    Even though I am doing something that is crucial to the job
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    so the don't have to pay this wage up front.
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    But if at the end of a pay period, my earnings during those active hours isn't
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    at least that minimum, then the companies adjust my pay and make up the difference.
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    Despite this asterisk and how hours are counted,
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    the new law has benefited delivery drivers.
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    We have seen how workers are making anything between 20 to 50% more.
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    The apps claimed that the law
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    would force them to serve less areas and affect customers and restaurants.
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    So they fought the minimum wage hard in court and appealed it.
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    And once it was in place, the made big changes in response.
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    We're seeing companies
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    who are retaliating, making it harder for workers to receive tips.
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    Here's the easiest way to see what the apps have done
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    in response to the new minimum wage.
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    I'm placing identical orders, but one is in New York City
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    and one is in Oklahoma, where DoorDash hasn't changed anything.
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    We're using DoorDash because it's biggest delivery
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    app, and Oklahoma because my sister lives there
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    and I just needed somewhere to send this food.
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    Ignoring the difference in meal price,
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    which is just cost of living, there's a lot that the app has changed.
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    It explicitly says that they removed the option to pre-tip in response
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    to the new law.
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    While over here we have a tip automatically selected
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    and messaging that says why tips are important.
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    New York also has this regulatory response fee,
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    which is just passing the cost of the new law onto you.
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    The customers.
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    Now that a dasher has been assigned, I can tip on the New York order,
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    but I don't normally reopen the app
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    after I've ordered, so I don't know that I would see this.
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    Also, this little ad tip button is so small and once I do click it,
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    the auto options are lower than the Oklahoma ones relative to order cost.
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    It also only lets me tip once per order, whereas the Oklahoma order.
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    I can add more of a tip later if I want to.
  • 00:08:17
    It's a tale as old as time.
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    A well-intentioned new government rule causes businesses
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    to change their practices, which creates a whole mess of new issues and questions.
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    This while also brings up the matter of independent contractors versus employees.
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    Delivery workers here are still classified
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    as independent contractors, just with extra minimum pay guarantees,
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    but the idea of reclassification as employees
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    and guaranteeing a minimum wage is spreading throughout the gig economy.
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    Wisconsin, Minnesota, Massachusetts and California have all recently
  • 00:08:44
    considered laws around the classification of gig workers, as employees,
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    and several other states have considered
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    or implemented extra protections and minimum pay for gig workers.
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    There's even a new federal law
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    around gig worker classification that businesses are fighting hard. For the apps.
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    All of this just means more hurdles
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    to profitability and continuing day to day operations.
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    So realistically, where do the apps go from here?
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    The more that you can batch orders, then you're able to actually make
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    the economics work more favorably.
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    Even exploring batching across category,
  • 00:09:13
    picking up a food delivery order and then maybe an e-commerce
  • 00:09:16
    order and batching those together and delivering them out.
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    Ryan also says that the big growth and money this year will be in the grocery
  • 00:09:22
    delivery space, because those orders are much easier logistically.
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    DoorDash is investing heavily in grocery delivery now,
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    so everyone's coming in and Instacart and coming to Walmart Spark.
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    The apps have another idea.
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    Almost all of them have launched subscription services,
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    which is the favorite tactic among almost all companies
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    looking to make their income a little more predictable.
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    And of course, they're trying to cut out the piece that's making this also hard.
  • 00:09:44
    The labor DoorDash is trying drone delivery on a small scale for now.
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    Uber Eats just started using self-driving cars to deliver,
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    and Walmart is expanding its drone reach for grocery delivery.
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    We just got an $8 order guaranteed.
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    No tip.
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    All right, we're going to seventh Street Burger.
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    This sucks because I'm so hungry.
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    Thank you.
  • 00:10:08
    Danielle, your lunch is coming.
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    It's so close. It's a three minute bite.
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    Oh no. It's because there's two pickups.
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    Now we have to go get Levain.
  • 00:10:17
    Danielle, you need dessert.
  • 00:10:19
    All right. Fine.
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    We'll go to Levain. Danielle.
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    Danielle, I'm here.
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    Done.
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    Finished.
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    All right.
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    I'm headed back to the office now. That was a crazy hard day.
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    This job is so fast paced.
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    You're running around, you're trying to find the order at a restaurant,
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    then you're at someone's apartment.
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    You're trying to figure out where the elevator is, how to get upstairs.
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    You know, you're talking to the doorman, you're navigating office.
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    It's a lot of work.
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    I'm definitely rethinking.
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    Every time I made the DoorDash driver come up instead of
  • 00:10:53
    going to meet them downstairs, which would be much more helpful.
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    I'm rethinking every time.
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    I didn't tip as much because the order was late,
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    because that is realistically out of their control a lot of the time.
  • 00:11:03
    Also, I definitely did not make the minimum wage today,
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    so DoorDash is going to have to adjust my pay later.
  • 00:11:08
    The food delivery industry
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    is still relatively young, but it's in a very tough spot right now.
  • 00:11:13
    They've still never been profitable, and have there ever present labor issues,
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    and now they have to figure out how to work with these laws,
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    requiring them to change their business practices and pay their labor more.
  • 00:11:22
    Whatever the path forward is for these apps,
  • 00:11:24
    they have a long way to go to become profitable.
  • 00:11:26
    That is, unless they can replace their entire labor with robots fast enough.
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  • Delivery Apps
  • Grubhub
  • UberEats
  • DoorDash
  • Profitability
  • Gig Economy
  • Customer Tips
  • Labor Laws
  • Automation
  • Drone Delivery