K-TALK : PENGALAMAN 1 TAHUN PERTUKARAN PELAJAR DI AMERIKA W/ Deky TH

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摘要

TLDRPodcast ini mengandungi perbincangan antara host dan Jakey mengenai pengalaman Jakey sebagai pelajar pertukaran di Amerika Syarikat. Jakey berkongsi tentang cabaran bahasa, perbezaan budaya, dan sistem pendidikan. Dia menggariskan pentingnya bahasa Inggeris sebagai alat komunikasi global sambil tetap bangga dengan budaya dan identiti Indonesia.

心得

  • 🎙️ Podcast pertama bersama Jakey tentang pengalamannya.
  • 🌏 Pengalaman pelajar pertukaran ke Amerika Syarikat.
  • ✨ Perbezaan budaya antara Indonesia dan AS.
  • 📚 Diskusi mengenai sistem pendidikan yang berbeza.
  • 🇮🇩 Pentingnya menjadi bangga dengan identiti Indonesia.
  • 🗣️ Kepentingan bahasa Inggeris dalam komunikasi global.
  • 👨‍👩‍👦 Adaptasi hidup bersama keluarga angkat di AS.
  • 💬 Cabaran berbahasa dan komunikasi yang dihadapi Jakey.
  • 📖 Belajar daripada pengalaman sosial dan pendidikan.
  • 🌱 Toleransi budaya antara pelajar antarabangsa.

时间轴

  • 00:00:00 - 00:05:00

    Selamat datang ke podcast pertama Kinandi, di mana dia berbincang-bincang dengan Jackie tentang pengalamannya sebagai pelajar pertukaran. Jackie, seorang pelajar jurusan kejuruteraan di Universitas Petra, memperkenalkan diri dan latar belakang akademiknya.

  • 00:05:00 - 00:10:00

    Jackie membincangkan proses seleksi untuk program pertukaran pelajar yang diikutinya, termasuk pelbagai tahap sampai dapat dipilih sebagai wakil Indonesia. Dia berasa bersyukur kerana terpilih untuk ke Amerika Syarikat melalui biasiswa dari Kementerian Pendidikan AS.

  • 00:10:00 - 00:15:00

    Jackie menceritakan pengalamannya tinggal di Venus, Texas, di mana dia mengalami perbezaan budaya yang besar, terutamanya dari segi cara komunikasi antara Amerika dan Indonesia.

  • 00:15:00 - 00:20:00

    Dia juga berkongsi tentang cabaran budaya yang dihadapi semasa beradaptasi di Amerika Syarikat, seperti cara langsung dalam menyatakan keinginan, yang sangat berbeza dari cara berbicara yang tidak langsung di Indonesia.

  • 00:20:00 - 00:25:00

    Jackie menjelaskan tentang sistem pendidikan di Texas yang berbeza daripada di Indonesia, terutama dalam jumlah kelas dan pendekatan pembelajaran yang lebih berfokus pada fundamental.

  • 00:25:00 - 00:30:00

    Walaupun dia menghadapi kesukaran dalam bahasa Inggeris, pengalaman bertutur dalam bahasa itu membantunya meningkatkan kemahiran berbahasa Inggeris dan keyakinan diri untuk bercakap.

  • 00:30:00 - 00:35:00

    Sesi perbincangan berlanjutan tentang perbezaan dalam sistem politik antara Indonesia dan AS. Jackie yakin bahawa dalam persekitaran yang toleran, dia dapat mempertahankan ideologinya sebagai seorang Indonesia.

  • 00:35:00 - 00:40:18

    Dalam penutup, Jackie mengingatkan pentingnya belajar bahasa Inggeris sebagai bahasa global, tetapi juga menekankan untuk tetap bangga dengan jati diri sebagai rakyat Indonesia.

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视频问答

  • Siapa Jakey?

    Jakey adalah pelajar jurusan kejuruteraan industri di Universiti Petra, yang mempunyai pengalaman sebagai pelajar pertukaran.

  • Dari mana Jakey berasal?

    Jakey berasal dari La Mongan, Indonesia.

  • Ke negara mana Jakey pergi untuk program pertukaran pelajar?

    Jakey pergi ke Amerika Syarikat, khususnya ke Texas.

  • Apakah cabaran utama yang dihadapi Jakey semasa di AS?

    Cabaran utama adalah perbezaan budaya dan bahasa, terutama dalam cara komunikasi.

  • Apakah perbezaan utama antara sistem pendidikan di Indonesia dan AS?

    Sistem pendidikan di AS lebih beragam bergantung kepada setiap negeri, sementara di Indonesia lebih seragam.

  • Apa yang dipelajari Jakey tentang bahasa Inggeris?

    Jakey belajar untuk berbicara tanpa rasa malu dan memperbaiki kemahiran bahasa Inggerisnya.

  • Bagaimana Jakey beradaptasi dengan keluarga angkat di AS?

    Jakey merasa diterima dan tidak menghadapi masalah besar beradaptasi dengan keluarga angkatnya.

  • Apakah pentingnya bahasa Inggeris menurut Jakey?

    Bahasa Inggeris penting sebagai bahasa antarabangsa untuk berkomunikasi dengan orang di seluruh dunia.

  • Apa nasihat terakhir Jakey untuk pendengar?

    Untuk bangga menjadi orang Indonesia dan terus belajar bahasa Inggeris.

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    okay so welcome back to podcast miss
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    kinandi so today is our first uh podcast
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    so
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    and i'm very glad today because like on
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    my first podcast i have a very great
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    partner
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    to accompany me on my first postcard so
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    welcome here jakey hello kitty
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    hello
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    [Applause]
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    i'm great how about you
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    i'm a very great house for the day it's
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    a very good day for me because i'm
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    having you today for my podcast thank
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    you so much
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    thank you so much for having me i'm
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    super
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    i'm super proud to be invited to your
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    first podcast
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    i hope i will be thank you
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    i hope i will be a help for you and
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    everyone for this podcast
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    okay we hope so like
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    you know like my podcast is for sharing
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    about uh
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    you actually especially about you and
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    then i want you to share about your
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    experience while having an exchange
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    student and many more but you've always
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    started the podcast okay would you like
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    to introduce yourself to our
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    subscribers here or for my students here
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    so they will know about your profile
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    okay um
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    i'm sorry it's only a little bit noisy
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    here but anyway um
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    i would like to introduce myself my name
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    is tk3 marwan
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    i am currently studying industrial
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    engineering and i am currently in my
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    fifth semester
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    and
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    i think that's all about me or do you
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    want to know about anything else
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    okay so actually that's uh your
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    profiling as an open petron java team of
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    students so actually guys so jackie is
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    the students in urban petra and
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    he is on
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    engineering industrial engineering
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    department and he is now one of his
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    semester but
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    here why i'm so glad for having dickie
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    here on my first podcast because like
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    you know
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    jake is a very extraordinary student
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    that i ever met because like i i didn't
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    know that he also have had an experience
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    for having an exchange student is that
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    true they key
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    yes that is true
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    okay
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    so where do you go that's a tranche
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    to go for your exchange students okay so
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    actually it was all started when i was
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    in 10th grade of high school
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    and i joined one of like extracurricular
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    in my school it's called english
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    community where we learn about something
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    in class like grammar vocabulary and
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    something like that but they also
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    help us improve our stuff like for
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    any kind of competition like fade drama
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    and something like that
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    and one day they receive for information
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    about pinata
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    which is an organization
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    about exchange student and
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    related to exchange student staff and
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    we receive an information that they have
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    opened the
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    registration about extend student
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    program and we were so excited to hear
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    about it let's say we were so
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    enthusiastic about it
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    uh and then
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    uh we we went to we went through a lot
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    of
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    stages
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    we went to stage one until four in
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    surabaya and then
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    national stages of selection and
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    international stages of selection and
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    finally like after one year and a half
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    ish
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    i was gratefully and still am gratefully
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    to be selected to be part of like
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    160 or something like that
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    students around
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    around indonesia to be able to be the
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    delegation oh
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    yeah delegation okay um
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    before you continue your story about the
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    process
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    until you can get the
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    student exchange exchange what do you
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    tell me where to school
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    oh okay i'm from uh
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    one of school in la mongan i live in la
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    mulan so yeah
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    okay thank you thank you
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    okay so would you like to continue about
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    the process until you got a chance for
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    having an exchange student
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    so after you do some kind of selections
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    and
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    after that and then you were chosen to
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    be part of the exchange students so
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    where do you go
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    where were you where did you go for your
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    students
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    i am super grateful to be
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    one of the students
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    to have the chance to go to united
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    states of america on a full scholarship
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    from u.s department of state ministry of
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    education
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    so yes i spent like
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    one year
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    not really one you're not
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    one academic year in united states
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    six months
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    uh it's
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    10 months so like two semesters
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    so what did you stay in the u.s i mean
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    like
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    where where is the region where did you
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    stay
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    uh i
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    uh i stayed in
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    one of city in texas it's called venus
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    it's finished like the planet
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    i was yeah
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    it's kind of like cool because
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    where where everyone's my friends
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    talking about oh i'm going to roam italy
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    i'm going to um san diego i'm going to
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    here and there and oh no i'm going to
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    another opponent
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    okay so you were on texas so you were on
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    yes i was in texas
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    okay so the case while you got a
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    challenge uh for having an exchange
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    student in us especially in texas
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    especially again on venus okay
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    okay
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    so when when you were there do you got
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    like an experience such as like cultural
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    shock or some things when you were there
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    um of course i held a cultural shock
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    when i first arrived in u.s i grew up in
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    indonesia for like 16 or 17 years before
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    and i never in my life i went to abroad
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    that's my first that was my first time
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    to be overseas from my little home in la
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    mongan and then
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    uh
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    when i first arrived there i feel like
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    everything is different like literally
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    everything is different
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    and i learned a lot of things that i
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    never understood before like it's not
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    common in here and then
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    my main issue
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    aside from the language
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    i feel like the very
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    very big difference from indonesia and
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    the united states is the way we speak in
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    indonesia we speak in like indirect way
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    so when we don't practice say what we
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    meant to say
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    but you asked they directly say what
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    they want to express but they want to ex
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    understand just like
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    uh like example
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    like when we visit someone we visit our
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    friend or our family and
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    they would offer us do you want drink
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    our dream and food and in indonesia
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    particularly we would say no thank you
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    we're not hungry we're not thirsty or
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    something like that
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    don't bother yourself something like
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    that right
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    uh but then
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    just
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    that's just like a form of us being
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    polite and not
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    want to bother them something like that
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    right but actually if we actually say
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    yes you want them they actually don't
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    really mind that we actually want to
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    drink our food from them right because
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    they actually mean to offer or give us
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    some food or drink
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    right but in the u.s
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    we just if you want some food or we want
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    some drink we just directly say oh i
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    want soda or i want
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    do you have uh do you have cookies or do
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    you have something like we actually
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    directly say that
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    maybe initially
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    and let's say if we say no
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    if to the offer they would not give us
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    another offer so that's no is no
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    okay
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    is this like a different culture with
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    indonesian yes actually it's very
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    i'm so interesting for hearings about
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    your experience in u.s but before that
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    um let me know where do you live when in
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    since you live in boarding house or do
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    you live like uh do you stay with some
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    family in us or
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    in my program it's called kennedy
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    logarius exchange and study we have to
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    live with a host family host family is
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    like
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    a family with uh their native native
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    family us family and they are
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    volunteering themselves volunteer their
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    house to welcome us
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    exchange students so
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    that we will actually learn
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    about culture about anything in us
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    directly from the native
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    so yes i was part of the host family for
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    one year
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    so
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    uh how how do you feel how did you feel
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    well you live with a native american's
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    family how do you feel how is your
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    experience
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    um
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    if we're still talking about the
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    cultural stuff
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    i feel like everything was different
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    right and then
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    i'm gonna talk about the language
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    because they are native and they don't
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    speak any language besides
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    english english and
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    i
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    i would say i was not
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    good in english i'm i'm still learning
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    english right now but back then i was
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    still like really bad i have no courage
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    to speak i have
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    um
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    like my grammar was not really good and
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    i have i had to speak english i had to
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    listen to english like every single
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    second and my brain really hurts
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    like
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    uh
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    i one day i called my parents and i told
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    them
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    i really don't know how to live here
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    like
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    i i was i was this close to giving up
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    like
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    yeah
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    okay
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    so jackie i'm sorry for interrupting you
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    i'm sorry
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    um but before you start uh joining the
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    exchange students uh program so is there
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    any kind of requirement like you should
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    be able to speak in english or something
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    so i think that when you have been
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    chosen to be part of the exchange
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    student so it's mean that you are be
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    able to speak at english
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    isn't it
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    uh during the selection
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    during the stages of selection we went
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    to like interview selection
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    english interview selection we have
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    [Music]
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    we have to send our voice note speaking
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    about something and then
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    we have to start our video a lot of
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    videos
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    i'm talking about something but that was
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    like scripted or
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    um
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    i have i uh i had the chance to prepare
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    for what i'm gonna say
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    and then i had to take
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    wait i'm i forgot it's like english
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    proficiency test it's not people
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    but like oh it's altis english language
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    test for international student yeah i
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    had to take that and then
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    i
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    actually
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    to be honest i almost failed that test
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    but uh considering about my
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    personal uh personal failure about
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    everything
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    they gave me a second chance to uh to
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    improve my english
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    skills so
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    yes
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    so this program is changing a lot
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    actually for your uh
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    language skill your english skill
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    yes
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    yes
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    it helps it helped me to boost my
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    courage to speak that
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    except uh
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    especially in my speaking i had no
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    courage i was so shy i was afraid to
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    speak
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    what if i
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    speak
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    in grammatically error
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    what if i don't know this forget what if
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    i was i do anything like that but in the
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    u.s
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    it gave me
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    a chance to speak to learn how to speak
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    and be able to enjoy to speak in english
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    but dickie uh before you were joining
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    i the exchange students so do did you
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    have any interest with english
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    i actually
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    i'm not really sure if i would say this
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    is an interest but
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    i
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    my parents got me into english course
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    since i was like first
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    class in elementary my first grade in
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    lm3 so
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    i
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    was
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    i was excelling
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    in english then
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    my friends in my uh then my classmates
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    so
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    that
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    maybe from there i had interest about
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    english
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    okay
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    and take it while you were living in us
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    or especially in texas so
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    would you like to tell me or tell us
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    about your experience for having
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    education in u.s
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    is it different for the education system
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    in indonesia
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    oh it's totally different
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    okay it's like
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    education system in us
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    okay uh first of all i would like to
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    tell about the system academic system
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    uh
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    in the in indonesia we have one ministry
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    of education and
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    this ministry of education
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    system all of the education around
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    indonesia and we have one
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    let's say one curriculum for the whole
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    indonesia but in the in the united
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    states
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    uh the education is
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    in the in the hands of
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    government of states so let's say it's
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    not the whole us have the same education
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    system let's say in texas we have
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    different education system within new
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    york because it's different state every
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    state has their own
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    education system
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    and
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    uh because i live in texas so i would
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    like to tell about education system in
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    texas and the difference between
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    indonesia and texas
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    uh in indonesia
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    normal high school will have like 15 or
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    16 classes right in one semester
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    or in one year
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    but in
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    texas i had seven classes only seven
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    classes
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    it's consisting of
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    we have five mandatory classes the first
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    one is
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    science any kind of science like physics
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    chemistry whatever we choose one of them
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    so i took physique
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    and then we had to take math any kind of
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    mass
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    i took calculus
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    and then we have to take social studies
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    like there are us government u.s economy
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    us
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    history global history and i have to
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    take you as history it's a minor three
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    from the u.s department of state who
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    give
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    who awards my scholarship so i had to
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    take u.s history
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    and then
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    english i had to take english i took
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    english three with this equivalent to
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    11th grade of english
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    in us
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    and the last one is i had to take
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    a
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    foreign language
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    but
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    in my case i already speak three
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    different languages so they didn't
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    actually
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    uh they didn't give me the
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    obligation to take the foreign language
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    so
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    i had to take four my history for my
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    directory classes and the other three i
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    took election i took
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    theater i took
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    this physical education and i built um
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    design and computer design
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    jackie what did you skill while you were
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    in texas
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    i'm sorry miss where did you school
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    where's this school where is your school
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    oh
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    my school bus because i live in phoenix
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    so my school is finished high school
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    venus
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    okay um nikki if uh you have to choose i
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    mean like which one do you prefer um do
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    you feel like um education system in u.s
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    is better than in indonesia or like you
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    have a tribe both the education system
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    which one do you prefer
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    i am personally not sure which one is
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    better which one is worse
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    i personally think there is nothing
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    better
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    no
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    it's not say
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    it's not that
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    both of them are bad i would say
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    uh
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    whichever which of which are first good
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    but they they are different i cannot say
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    oh which which goods was bad because
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    i personally have different experience
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    and i think both of them are good
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    but in u.s
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    they
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    mainly
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    teach us like fundamental things
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    instead of
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    chapter one chapter two chapter three we
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    are mainly focused on the fundamental
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    thing
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    but in in indonesia i don't know maybe
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    you uh
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    know that in indonesia we feel like
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    in
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    in a spring condition we're like
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    this this this this like in the
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    circumference of time
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    but in in us we learn we mainly focus on
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    the fundamental things and that will
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    help
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    uh the next education
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    in college
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    okay so actually like more or less uh
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    whether in
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    u.s or in indonesia they have like um
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    the positive things or the negative
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    things about the education system
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    okay so techie um i've already talked
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    about the education system in us and
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    also indonesia but let's talk about
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    english
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    you know
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    so you know i'm very grateful for having
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    you as my students so we ever had in one
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    class and i knew that why and then like
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    i like your accents i liked what you
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    were speaking in english you know like
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    there's a difference with any of the
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    students and
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    and then when we talk about english when
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    we talk about the interest uh of your
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    english so
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    do you know why they talk about accents
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    you know like actually we have already
  • 00:19:45
    our own accents you know indonesian
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    actions or given accents but
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    you know when we learn english
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    we usually are familiar with your
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    accents uk accents and yes accents so do
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    you think which one is more and do you
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    concern
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    with
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    uh they're talking about uk and u.s
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    accent
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    some people say that
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    uk accent is more like authentic it's
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    more like the original version of
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    english right
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    uh well yes that's kind of true because
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    uh in the u.s
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    indigenous people don't really speak
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    english before the
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    europe before the european come to us
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    but anyway um personally because i have
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    lived in us
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    i have
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    i feel like us accent is easier for me
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    easier to speak you just listen even
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    in movies or in
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    a youtube video or anything when uh they
  • 00:20:51
    speak you as accent i personally
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    feel injured please to understand to
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    listen and everything uh
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    to communicate
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    with u.s accent but
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    firm uh ek uk accent is
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    very unique and i am actually
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    interested to learn and to know more
  • 00:21:12
    about uk accent because i don't know it
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    sounds it sounds
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    cool it stands cool like
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    uh where
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    there are like jokes on internet where
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    u.s uh you ek
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    citizen speaks like oh wow
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    that's kind of kind of cool
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    you don't want me to talk about the
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    accent it's actually like uh it's more
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    easier for us for having us accent
  • 00:21:39
    rather than uk accents yes this is like
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    about the dialogues and then how the way
  • 00:21:43
    we speak and it's something else
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    okay
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    um so actually there are a lot of things
  • 00:21:50
    that i want to really discuss with you
  • 00:21:52
    you know like i i believe that you have
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    a lot of experience
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    about it's not only about english it's
  • 00:21:59
    not really about the education system
  • 00:22:00
    that you ever had been in us and in
  • 00:22:02
    indonesia and it's not let's move to
  • 00:22:05
    about the politics system
  • 00:22:09
    at least foreign is quite like oh it's a
  • 00:22:13
    big topic for
  • 00:22:14
    us to talk this morning but let's try to
  • 00:22:18
    talk politics in a very
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    um what is it
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    in a very
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    easy way
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    so just relax and talk it about just
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    like a piece of cake
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    okay so um
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    gekki so when we talk about the politics
  • 00:22:36
    system whether in indonesia or any u.s
  • 00:22:40
    and
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    uh
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    what instincts how is the facts
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    uh of the politics system whether in u.s
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    or indonesia
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    um
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    in the u.s we have the democracy
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    ideologies which is not that different
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    from indonesia but indonesia we have
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    fantastic laws
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    ideology
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    um the
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    main difference
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    the main difference is that
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    a lot of things
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    just as i mentioned before like
  • 00:23:18
    education system this thing
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    in indonesia we have like one
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    one main
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    one main uh government like
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    every the government rules
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    basically everything
  • 00:23:32
    like in
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    our capital
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    they they rule a lot a lot of things but
  • 00:23:38
    in u.s they spread the rules so like
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    every state has their
  • 00:23:44
    rights to the regulation system yes the
  • 00:23:47
    regulation system so like education
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    and then
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    taxes
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    and a lot of things
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    okay so techy um you're you are you are
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    indonesians
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    and then
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    while you have a chance to go to texas
  • 00:24:05
    is it difficult for you to keep your
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    ideology as indonesians
  • 00:24:10
    and still living in yes
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    oh that's really good that's a really
  • 00:24:16
    good question
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    in us i don't know they have this
  • 00:24:19
    culture that they don't really
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    mind about other people's business so
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    let's say i am an indonesian and i have
  • 00:24:30
    ideologies and i have my own way of
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    thinking
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    uh
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    most people there will
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    respect about what i what i want to want
  • 00:24:40
    to say what i want i have the free i
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    have the liberty to
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    think what i want nothing to be what i
  • 00:24:49
    want to be
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    so
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    maybe some of the time i have like
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    difficulties to understand them or them
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    if difficult is to understand my
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    thinking way but
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    most of the time don't respect my
  • 00:25:03
    opinion they will respect my choice so
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    i really am glad that they have the kind
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    of culture so
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    i didn't really have struggles to be an
  • 00:25:14
    indonesian with indonesian ideology with
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    an indonesian culture
  • 00:25:18
    to be
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    in a whole different country
  • 00:25:23
    so dear things
  • 00:25:25
    panchayat is very helpful to be able to
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    socialize
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    okay
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    okay in in fantasyland uh
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    pensacola contains a lot of things
  • 00:25:39
    knowing that indonesia is very
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    very hard to gain very good a lot of
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    different cultures a lot of different
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    ethnicities language and everything
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    to become one or uh in minikatu kalika
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    or united
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    right
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    so
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    that
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    uh
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    the united university itself helps me to
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    be
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    one of
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    uh one of citizens in u.s because u.s is
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    yes it's basically like indonesia and
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    there are a lot of cultures a lot of
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    cities and where everyone around
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    around the world comes to the us
  • 00:26:22
    for
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    uh they hope they would they would have
  • 00:26:25
    a better living and better further
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    future
  • 00:26:28
    just like that i understand about
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    tolerances i grew up in indonesia where
  • 00:26:35
    tolerancy is like one of the
  • 00:26:39
    important things to leave us
  • 00:26:41
    in the nation
  • 00:26:42
    and then when i went to new yors
  • 00:26:46
    it's still the same thing deliverance is
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    the very important thing that we have to
  • 00:26:51
    learn we have to implement in our life
  • 00:26:55
    okay
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    so maybe uh
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    we can use bahasa for our next um
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    conversations i mean like not all of my
  • 00:27:05
    students will be able to understand
  • 00:27:07
    while we uh while we were using english
  • 00:27:09
    so let's start you're saying
  • 00:27:18
    things
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    [Music]
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    consequences
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    to characterize yourself while you were
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    unemployed
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    yes pantastilla helped me a lot uh they
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    still have taught me a lot of things to
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    be how to be a really good citizen to be
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    how to
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    know what my rights and what my
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    obligations
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    so i know that uh
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    how to be how to be a good indonesian
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    citizen and it helped me to be a good
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    global citizen so that i would
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    understand
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    what uh
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    what i have and what i have to do
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    in wherever i am
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    whether it's in indonesia or it's in the
  • 00:29:35
    united
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    i don't know states just like my opinion
  • 00:29:40
    i think that a pancetta can characterize
  • 00:29:44
    uh ourselves
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    we are indonesians
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    a lot of people think that all you have
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    oh why you have to do that
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    uh
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    is uh
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    is that why you have to do that because
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    your indonesian or
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    uh is it real
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    is it common indonesian indonesian for
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    people to do something particular like
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    uh voting or
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    um
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    tolerances and everything like that and
  • 00:30:33
    they would they would actually ask that
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    something different about me from
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    us normalcy usd citizen and they would
  • 00:30:43
    instantly say that is that uh how
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    indonesian people do this or is that how
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    in addition way
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    to
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    uh complete this
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    application
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    um
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    we try to characterize ourselves by
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    having
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    pandasila ideologies so we just tried to
  • 00:31:29
    bring up uh indonesia to be more
  • 00:31:31
    globalized
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    with banja sila
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    and many more okay so jackie so while we
  • 00:31:39
    talk about fantasyla so
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    fanta is like uh the fundamentals
  • 00:31:45
    of our country and then how to applicate
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    it is when we talk about state events
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    is
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    foreign
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    okay yes
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    um
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    i personally would say state depends
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    it's not about military defense not uh
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    it's not that we have to protect our
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    country from
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    military attacks or something like that
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    i would say we have we can do this uh as
  • 00:32:40
    college students in
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    we can do uh we can promote our
  • 00:32:47
    country
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    we can promote our
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    uh ideologies our language we can
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    promote indonesia as
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    a whole country so that uh indonesia
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    will be a better place a better country
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    so that we can move forward to improve
  • 00:33:02
    our country
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    uh and as a college student we can
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    actually learn
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    a lot of things so that
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    uh we are going to be the
  • 00:33:15
    leader of the country
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    so if
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    we learn a lot of things and
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    we prepare ourselves to be the future
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    leaders
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    we actually uh and we know that we have
  • 00:33:29
    a lot of
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    flaws we have a lot of
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    uh
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    love here and there and as
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    i don't know
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    maybe we can
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    be the future leaders and we can fix
  • 00:33:42
    things and make innovations a better
  • 00:33:44
    place a better country
  • 00:33:46
    both in
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    political and social culture
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    so like when you go college uh
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    in other urban so you won't got discord
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    okay
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    do you feel so blessed for getting this
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    course or
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    like do you think that um
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    this group should be given to
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    all of the students in english
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    um
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    foreign
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    is it important for you for having this
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    course
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    um as
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    i mentioned before it's not about
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    engineering it's not about social
  • 00:35:51
    studies it's not about medical studies
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    it's very talking about
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    me
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    on everyone as an indonesian citizen so
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    we think everyone
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    uh no matter what background they have
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    i'm
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    100 sure that we have to take
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    bella nagara as a basic education for us
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    it's just to prepare us to be
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    uh
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    to be how to be a good indonesian
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    citizen it's not about what uh despite
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    of
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    what backgrounds we have
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    okay thank you so much dickie i mean
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    like you give um
  • 00:36:34
    very great opinions about manchester
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    united but they are negara's students
  • 00:36:38
    you know i i like your last uh answer
  • 00:36:41
    your last opinion it doesn't matter what
  • 00:36:43
    will grow on of us as long as we are
  • 00:36:45
    indonesian so it learns about the ramen
  • 00:36:48
    garage thank you so much for today
  • 00:36:50
    thank you so much for having me thank
  • 00:36:52
    you so much for having me in my focus
  • 00:36:54
    i'm very pleased for having you today
  • 00:36:57
    and vicky before like we finish our test
  • 00:37:00
    would you like to give us uh last words
  • 00:37:04
    for all of the audience for all the
  • 00:37:06
    students would you like to give us your
  • 00:37:09
    last word to us
  • 00:37:47
    okay
  • 00:37:48
    thank you so much for your classy
  • 00:37:49
    statement it's a very good class
  • 00:37:53
    statement i mean that whenever we are
  • 00:37:56
    still um remember that we are indonesian
  • 00:38:00
    and one more things take it do you think
  • 00:38:04
    english is important
  • 00:38:07
    i would say english is important
  • 00:38:09
    it's international language so we can
  • 00:38:11
    communicate with a lot of people around
  • 00:38:13
    the world
  • 00:38:14
    and
  • 00:38:15
    in
  • 00:38:18
    in this society we have everything
  • 00:38:20
    every a lot of things develops in the
  • 00:38:23
    first best way
  • 00:38:26
    and
  • 00:38:27
    is as an international citizen as a
  • 00:38:29
    global citizen we have to learn about
  • 00:38:33
    what would global citizens speak we have
  • 00:38:35
    to learn how to communicate with other
  • 00:38:38
    people
  • 00:38:39
    uh
  • 00:38:40
    outside indonesia
  • 00:38:42
    but
  • 00:38:44
    uh we have to
  • 00:38:46
    we have to remind ourselves that
  • 00:38:49
    there is this symbol and there is this
  • 00:38:51
    code that i really like it's
  • 00:38:54
    um
  • 00:38:57
    indonesia
  • 00:39:07
    really hits me
  • 00:39:09
    that we have to prioritize
  • 00:39:11
    that we have to learn indonesia because
  • 00:39:13
    we have to be
  • 00:39:15
    a proud indonesian we have to be
  • 00:39:18
    um
  • 00:39:19
    we have to be proud about
  • 00:39:23
    what we have we have to improve that we
  • 00:39:25
    are indonesia and indonesia is really
  • 00:39:27
    great
  • 00:39:28
    thank you so much
  • 00:39:30
    you know
  • 00:39:31
    i feel like i was
  • 00:39:33
    sleeping with you last week you know i
  • 00:39:35
    just know that but it's a very it's a
  • 00:39:38
    very great statement thank you so much
  • 00:39:40
    jk i hope that we can meet in another
  • 00:39:42
    occasion thank you so much for giving me
  • 00:39:45
    time for having this podcast
  • 00:40:15
    bye
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