Cops Make Horrific Discovery in Woman's Soup Pot

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الملخص

TLDRIn January 2016, a dog walker in Mercer County discovered a dismembered human spine, initiating a lengthy investigation that unveiled gruesome details about the victim, identified as Ryan Zimmerman. While initially a missing person case, detectives traced Ryan's DNA and connected it to former roommates Sarah Buzzard and Jen. Following extensive interrogations, Sarah confessed to the murder, claiming it was an accident stemming from anger. Jen, who initially denied involvement, later confronted police but tragically died from a self-inflicted gunshot wound during questioning. Sarah eventually pleaded guilty, resulting in a life sentence. The motivations behind Ryan's murder reflect a complex and disturbing narrative surrounding identity and personal conflict.

الوجبات الجاهزة

  • 🦴 Ryan Zimmerman's remains were discovered in Mercer County.
  • 🔍 Investigators connected Ryan's DNA to a missing person's case.
  • 💔 Sarah Buzzard confessed to Ryan's murder during interrogation.
  • 🧓 Jen Whitaker died by suicide during questioning.
  • ⚖️ Sarah pleaded guilty and was sentenced to life in prison.
  • 🚓 The case exposed profound personal conflicts around identity.
  • 🩸 Investigators found blood evidence linked to Sarah's car.
  • 🎭 The motivations behind Ryan's murder reveal deep-seated issues.
  • 📅 The timeline of events goes back to Ryan's last known contact in September 2015.
  • 💀 Ryan was dismembered, with body parts disposed of in various locations.

الجدول الزمني

  • 00:00:00 - 00:05:00

    A dog walker discovers human bones in Mercer County, raising an investigation into the gruesome death of 21-year-old Ryan Zimmerman, who had been dismembered. Police confirm the remains match a missing person report from 2015, igniting a desperate search for the rest of the body.

  • 00:05:00 - 00:10:00

    Investigators learn Ryan's remains were never fully recovered, leading them to interview people who lived with him before his disappearance. Initial conversations uncover troubling details hinting at foul play and possible motives related to his personal life.

  • 00:10:00 - 00:15:00

    Sarah Buzzard and Jen Whitaker, Ryan's former roommates, are interrogated about his disappearance. They describe a complicated living situation and the challenges they faced, yet inconsistencies emerge in their statements about Ryan's last days in their home.

  • 00:15:00 - 00:20:00

    Amid the police's search for clarity, both women struggle with shock, and Sarah reveals details about Ryan's emotional state before he left the apartment, blaming his departure for the ensuing turmoil in her life.

  • 00:20:00 - 00:25:00

    Questions arise around what happened to Ryan's belongings, particularly his vehicle, which was found abandoned and partially filled with his items. The timeline of events around his last known interactions becomes pivotal to the investigation.

  • 00:25:00 - 00:30:00

    As police uncover evidence of a violent incident, Sarah's anxiety begins to show, hinting that more serious actions may have taken place regarding Ryan's death.

  • 00:30:00 - 00:35:00

    Further interrogations reveal that Jen and Sarah's accounts start to fracture, leading investigators to theorize about possible involvement in Ryan's murder and dismemberment after a violent confrontation escalated.

  • 00:35:00 - 00:40:00

    Sarah eventually admits to being involved in dismembering Ryan's body following an accidental death. Jen denies her involvement, complicating the investigation and causing a rift between the two women under scrutiny.

  • 00:40:00 - 00:45:00

    As detectives piece together the sequence of tragic events through Sarah's differing confessions, they uncover plans that included moving Ryan's remains and tampering with evidence to hide their actions from law enforcement.

  • 00:45:00 - 00:50:00

    Sarah reveals chilling details about the method used to dispose of Ryan's remains, speaking of a gruesome effort to eliminate traces of the crime, leading to further investigations into the couple's lifestyle and possible motives for Ryan's murder.

  • 00:50:00 - 00:55:24

    The case escalates rapidly with Jen's shocking death during an arrest, leaving Sarah to recount a new version of events. Investigators unveil shocking twists, including evidence of deep-seated resentment and manipulation within the roommates' dynamics, as sentencing approaches.

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فيديو أسئلة وأجوبة

  • What was found by the dog walker?

    A skeletal human spine was discovered hidden in the brush.

  • Who was the victim identified as?

    The victim was identified as Ryan Zimmerman.

  • How did Ryan die?

    Ryan was murdered and dismembered.

  • Who were the prime suspects in Ryan's case?

    Ryan's former roommates, Sarah Buzzard and Jen.

  • What was Jen's fate after the investigation began?

    Jen died by suicide during police questioning.

  • What charges did Sarah Buzzard plead guilty to?

    Sarah pleaded guilty to charges including abuse of a corpse and tampering with evidence.

  • What was the outcome of Sarah's sentencing?

    Sarah was sentenced to life in prison with the possibility of parole after 30 years.

  • What evidence did investigators find?

    They found blood evidence in her car and the apartment where Ryan lived.

  • What motivated the murder according to Sarah's confession?

    Sarah believed Ryan didn't deserve to be in the world, expressing a distorted sense of justice.

  • What happened to Ryan's remains?

    They were disposed of in various dumpsters and hidden in Sarah's home.

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التمرير التلقائي:
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    I may be just totally off my rocker but
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    I was just out walking my dog and I came
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    across some bones that look to me to be
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    human he had been dismembered oh my God
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    okay and I I like I
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    said um there was apparent saw marks
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    okay um what Mark saw saw when a human
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    spine is discovered by a woman walking
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    her dog in Mercer County in January
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    2016 it launches an investigation that
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    will take years to
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    unravel even with a bone chilling
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    confession investigators are left
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    questioning the truth behind their
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    victim's unimaginably gruesome demise
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    and they will soon find themselves with
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    another body on their hands before the
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    case is over the following report is
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    based on official police records and
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    most of the footage has never been seen
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    until now following the 911 call from
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    the concerned dog walker police
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    discovered a skeletal human spine hidden
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    among the Frozen brush in a fairly
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    remote area in Mercer County though they
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    conducted a thorough search of the area
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    no other remains were found this left
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    investigators with two main questions
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    who was their victim and where were the
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    missing body parts despite a DNA profile
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    being uploaded to nameus a police
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    database for missing persons cases the
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    identity of the victim remained unknown
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    that all changed in 2020 when a bureau
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    of criminal investigation agent working
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    on cold cases connected the profile of a
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    missing person's case in Columbus Ohio
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    with the timeline of when the skeletal
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    spine was discovered 21-year-old Ryan
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    Zimmerman was reported missing at the
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    end of November
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    2015 just two months before the 911 call
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    Ryan had last been heard from a month
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    prior in September after contacting
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    Ryan's parents and conducting a DNA test
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    investigators were able to confirm that
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    the partial skeleton belonged to Ryan
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    they spoke to Ryan's father Warren over
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    the phone your son did um it was obvious
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    that there was Foul Play involved okay
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    um right there was some remains that we
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    were not able to locate okay so it was
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    also discovered that he had been
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    dismembered oh my God okay and I I like
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    I
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    said I'm I'm sorry to tell you that over
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    the phone we did not find portions of of
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    him being the lower portions of the legs
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    the lower portions of the arms or the
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    skull oh my gosh
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    so the location of Ryan's skull was like
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    something out of a horror movie but that
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    wouldn't be revealed until much later
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    even worse than discovering that Ryan
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    had died were the details investigators
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    shared with Warren about Ryan's remains
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    there was apparent saw marks okay um
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    what marks saw saw right when when he
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    was found um it was basically skeletal
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    Remains What do it sound like you
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    gameland or uh some kind of sick
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    trafficking or what the hell Ian who
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    would do something like that those are
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    all questions that we are hoping to work
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    to try to get some answers for Ryan and
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    and for your family okay police were
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    able to track down the three people
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    living with Ryan in Columbus before
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    Ryan's disappearance Corey Buzzard Sarah
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    buzzard and naira Jen Whitaker on August
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    25th 2021 officers had defined Sarah and
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    Jen who were now married after moving
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    out of the apartment they shared with
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    Corey and Ryan they now live at Sarah's
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    mother's house what will unfold shortly
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    is a twisted and unpredictable case one
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    that is far more disturbing than anyone
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    anticipated we had several calls on this
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    subject usually Ware check it takes a
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    few minutes but eventually Sarah answers
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    the door hello police department looking
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    for Sarah that's me couldn't step out
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    for
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    me all right sorry I had to wake
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    you well I think you got a
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    warrant
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    uhhuh out of Ohio I think it's a theft
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    War I
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    believe okay so we have to take care of
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    it 002 I've got her out front all right
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    so go ahead and turn around put your
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    hands on your back for me though he
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    doesn't know it just yet the officer
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    asks Sarah a question that will
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    foreshadow a devastating series of
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    events everyone sound nervous you have
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    any weapons or anything in the house
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    upstairs that I need to worry
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    about don't I want to coming out with a
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    gun or anything like a charge Sarah
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    informs the officers that her mother and
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    Jen are inside the home and they soon
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    join her on the porch
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    okay so what's what's going to happen
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    well we got to take her downtown I got
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    to look at exactly what the the warrant
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    is for and then we'll go from there so I
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    can it's through Ohio so they sent us
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    over here so other sent the warrant over
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    here we get them from out of state all
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    the time know what I mean that was in my
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    daughter's we we never never that kind
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    of person but if something missing over
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    there no no I mean take some deep deep
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    breaths Sarah when she move it while the
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    officer dances around their questions
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    regarding Sarah's arrest Sarah's
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    disposition begins to take a turn you
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    been sick I really
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    like we just woke up sorry okay have you
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    been sick or no just shock oh okay
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    despite looking like she might pass out
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    it's decided that Sarah can travel to
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    the police station he I'm going to hold
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    your arm for you don't fall over
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    okay once at the police station and in
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    an interrogation room Sarah is told that
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    detectives from Ohio want to speak with
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    her hi Sarah hello I'm Megan Baker the
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    sheriff's office in Ohio I'm Rick Ward
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    hello hello Sarah well I'm assuming you
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    have lots of questions okay we're going
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    to take some time and sit down with you
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    here and maybe we can get some answers
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    for those questions for you if that's
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    okay Sarah has read her Miranda writes
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    and agrees to speak with the detectives
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    they immediately dive into questioning
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    beginning with her time in Columbus
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    almost 6 years ago Sarah explains that
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    she lived with her then husband Corey
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    Buzzard while married to Corey Sarah had
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    also started dating Jen who was
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    transgender eventually as her
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    relationship with Sarah progressed Jen
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    moved in with Corey and
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    Sarah a few months later they got
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    another roommate someone named Emma and
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    that's a little bit about why we're here
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    um is talk about Emma also known as Ryan
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    Zimmerman um he went missing um are you
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    familiar with any of that okay so I
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    guess tell me what you know about Ryan
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    um or Emma if you know him as Emma okay
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    according to Sarah and Jen Ryan was
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    newly transitioning which is why they
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    knew Ryan by the name Emma however this
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    claim hasn't been substantiated or
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    verified by any members of Ryan's
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    family it's a little bit of a touchy
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    subject my um my husband at the time uh
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    had sexual interests um they had talked
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    online extensively and uh he had invited
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    them to come stay with us uh which I did
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    not want to happen but uh long story
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    short it did after Sarah and her partner
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    Jen move into the house with her and
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    Corey Corey decided to meet someone and
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    reached out to Ryan online
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    after speaking for a short period Ryan
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    moved into the Columbus apartment as
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    well at the same time that Sarah is in
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    interrogation at Sarah's mother's house
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    Jen is also being approached by
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    detectives however Jen is a little more
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    hesitant to speak with them what seems
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    like it may be a simple conversation
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    about Sarah's apparent arrest for theft
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    will soon have a nightmarish
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    outcome okay there's we have a search
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    one for the residents too okay so we're
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    not stepping outside we we're working a
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    missing person's case from Ohio the Ohio
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    Attorney General's office has a task
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    force with missing persons okay and Ryan
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    Zimmerman Ryan Zimmerman lived with you
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    guys in Columbus in
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    2015 with you and Sarah and Corey on
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    September 2015 right and he's missing
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    and you guys were like the last people
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    in see him after clarifying that Ryan
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    also went by the name Emma or M JY
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    remembers briefly living with Ryan the
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    investigators will often switch between
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    referring to Ryan as Ryan and as M or
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    Emma after only living with Corey Sarah
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    and Jen for two months Ryan was asked to
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    leave Sarah claims that Ryan and Corey's
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    relationship ended and Ryan never found
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    a job which was part of her agreement to
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    allow Ryan to stay in the apartment
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    because of this Cory told Ryan to leave
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    and Ryan planned to leave on September
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    25th this timeline correlates with the
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    last time anyone heard from Ryan I know
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    that uh they had tried to plead with me
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    to give them another chance but I said
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    that I'd already given too many chances
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    and that uh it
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    was Cory's call
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    ultimately
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    um and I remember them packing and
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    either I I went to the store I was in a
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    different room I don't remember I
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    just I can't quite remember
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    um who was all home at the time I was um
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    Corey was
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    not and
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    then my my girlfriend was
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    over um so we might have been in the
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    living room I I honestly I don't
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    remember okay um I just know that one
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    minute uh Emma was
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    there and then the next he had just left
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    okay did you see him leav like pull away
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    in a vehicle or something uh somebody
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    pulled up and he got in the car and and
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    drove off I thought that he might come
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    back because he did leave his car um but
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    he didn't come back and then we didn't
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    hear from him again there will
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    eventually be troubling discrepancies in
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    Sarah and Jen's Stories the detectives
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    at Sarah's mother's house asked j a
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    follow-up question about Ryan's vehicle
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    what kind of car did he
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    have did you have a ride in the
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    car you never in this
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    car okay had you ever driven
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    it uh yes okay to the store or something
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    or when did you drive it um to the to a
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    gas station I couldn't get it to start
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    again um so I had to
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    call a a toe company to bring it back
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    but I was embarrassed about it because I
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    I didn't really have permission to drive
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    it so did you drive it while he was
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    still living there no this was after
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    he'd
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    left okay um were you by yourself during
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    this my girlfriend was was with me
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    unknowingly Sarah has just unraveled one
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    of the Mysteries behind Ryan's
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    disappearance Warren Ryan's father had
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    been alerted that some something was
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    wrong when Ryan's vehicle was found
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    abandoned though the license plate was
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    missing police found some of Ryan's
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    belongings inside the vehicle along with
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    the keys and a full tank of gas Warren
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    had taken it upon himself to knock on
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    neighbors doors to see if they
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    remembered anything useful about the car
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    or Ryan's
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    disappearance to his surprise someone
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    did one of the neighbors said they saw
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    the car get dropped off by a tow truck
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    near the apartments where Ryan was
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    staying with Corey Sarah and Jen about a
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    half hour later the Columbus Police
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    Department came and wrote the ticket up
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    and had the car at the vehicle towed I'm
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    thinking why would somebody you know was
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    like they wanted it to get picked up
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    Sarah claimed that she thought the
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    vehicle had vanished because Ryan had
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    returned and took it what she doesn't
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    add not yet at least is that there's an
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    unsettling reason she'd been using
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    Ryan's vehicle that day before moving on
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    the detectives return to the question of
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    Ryan's behavior before leaving the
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    apartment Jen reluctantly gives the
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    detective some background information
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    about the living situation before Ryan
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    left claiming Ryan was usually in the
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    spare bedroom and was reclusive jyn
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    belied that Corey regretted asking Ryan
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    to move in with them uh that was kind of
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    weird I guess how how weird like was she
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    just kind of clingy that's the thing too
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    no M was
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    so okay I have pretty bad social aniy MH
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    but M seem to have way worse soci okay
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    and how I guess how was M's Behavior
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    then excessively shy okay Jen also
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    explains the reason for some of the
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    tension with Ryan sorry it's just the
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    anxiety sure I don't like to admit that
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    I am transm but it was just weird Cory
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    brought another trans person into the
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    house because that's what they wanted
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    they had I shouldn't use gender neutral
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    for Cory cuz that's confusing um Cory
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    had papers written up about I forget
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    what he calls it like the trifecta or
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    perfect relationship but it involved one
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    man one woman and a a trans woman okay
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    um and I didn't want any part of that
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    sure I'm assuming that's why they
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    brought m in I think Brian was just kind
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    of the last straw for
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    me uh tell me more about that why was he
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    the last straw uh that was probably one
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    of
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    the biggest arguments that that we had
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    to make him that third
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    person uh but I I obviously didn't agree
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    with that and uh the entire time it may
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    me feel like I wasn't good enough after
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    Ryan apparently moved out of the
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    apartment Sarah and Corey divorced and
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    she married Jen soon after the
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    detectives take a break and when they
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    return they will confront Sarah with The
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    Awful Truth of why they are really
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    there hey there some more
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    water Sarah um I don't know if you know
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    this or not probably not but they
  • 00:15:17
    talking to Jennifer right now talking to
  • 00:15:19
    your mom and also talking to Corey and
  • 00:15:21
    there's major inconsistencies about the
  • 00:15:24
    inconsistencies about this with your
  • 00:15:27
    involvement with Ryan
  • 00:15:30
    and you know Ryan is now
  • 00:15:33
    deceased um is he's been murdered so we
  • 00:15:36
    have Cory is talking to the Columbus
  • 00:15:39
    Police uh detectives right now we just
  • 00:15:41
    get off the phone with them the
  • 00:15:43
    detective isn't being entirely honest
  • 00:15:45
    here while officers have managed to
  • 00:15:46
    track down Cory's new residents Corey is
  • 00:15:49
    proving less than enthusiastic about the
  • 00:15:51
    prospect of speaking with officers
  • 00:15:54
    you're not in any trouble I don't have
  • 00:15:55
    an arrest warrant nothing like that Cory
  • 00:15:57
    okay we just want to talk with you cuz
  • 00:15:59
    your name was brought up as a witness in
  • 00:16:01
    a case work a homicide homicide a
  • 00:16:04
    homicide I have not I don't recall
  • 00:16:06
    witnessing any homicides okay we're just
  • 00:16:08
    wanting to talk that's it okay that's it
  • 00:16:12
    I'm not I haven't lied to you at all uh
  • 00:16:14
    Corey okay it's about
  • 00:16:16
    Ryan I don't know who Ryan is Ryan lived
  • 00:16:18
    with you for a while Emma he also went
  • 00:16:22
    by Emma okay he was a roommate for a
  • 00:16:25
    while okay okay that's what we're here
  • 00:16:27
    to talk to you about uh not without
  • 00:16:29
    counsel okay do you have an attorney on
  • 00:16:31
    hand yes okay do you think they would
  • 00:16:34
    meet us down there can we make an
  • 00:16:36
    appointment I'd rather get this done
  • 00:16:38
    today I don't really think I have to
  • 00:16:41
    work on your time while the officer
  • 00:16:43
    speaking with Cory of once again hit a
  • 00:16:45
    dead end those with Sarah begin to lay
  • 00:16:47
    out some of the evidence I mean this is
  • 00:16:51
    um a bad
  • 00:16:53
    situation um we really need to know what
  • 00:16:55
    happened with the car we have we have
  • 00:16:58
    DNA
  • 00:17:00
    evidence um were able to track down your
  • 00:17:03
    car the one that you used to
  • 00:17:05
    own um the time of this
  • 00:17:09
    incident we uh were able to track down
  • 00:17:11
    the current owner and we're able to
  • 00:17:13
    examine it so we have major something
  • 00:17:16
    happened uh in that apartment the
  • 00:17:19
    weekend that you dropped Corey off with
  • 00:17:22
    that girl in Columbus the evidence the
  • 00:17:25
    detective is referring to are Reddish
  • 00:17:27
    stains discovered on the car liner of
  • 00:17:29
    Sarah's vehicle though she'd sold it
  • 00:17:32
    they found the new owners in July 2021
  • 00:17:34
    and conducted tests inside the trunk the
  • 00:17:37
    stains produced presumptive positive
  • 00:17:40
    results for suspected blood earlier
  • 00:17:42
    Sarah had claimed that Cory hadn't been
  • 00:17:44
    home the weekend Ryan moved out because
  • 00:17:46
    Corey was with another woman in fact
  • 00:17:49
    Sarah had been the one to drive Cory and
  • 00:17:51
    the woman to a hotel investigators spoke
  • 00:17:54
    with the woman and confirmed that Cory
  • 00:17:56
    was nowhere near the apartment where
  • 00:17:57
    Ryan was last scene while Corey may
  • 00:18:00
    still prove to be an important witness
  • 00:18:02
    to the events leading to Ryan's death
  • 00:18:04
    Sarah and Jen appear to be the last
  • 00:18:06
    known people to see Ryan so please just
  • 00:18:09
    tell me the truth what
  • 00:18:11
    happened Cory's given a whole another
  • 00:18:14
    version of what you just
  • 00:18:17
    said please just please tell me the
  • 00:18:21
    truth I'm not comfortable talking about
  • 00:18:25
    this I me we have was it ancient
  • 00:18:29
    yeah I don't I don't know what was an
  • 00:18:32
    accident with Ryan I didn't even know
  • 00:18:36
    that he was dead Sarah come on yes Sarah
  • 00:18:41
    Sarah please that I can talk to well I
  • 00:18:43
    you can talk to
  • 00:18:45
    us I just want I just want the truth the
  • 00:18:48
    other officers also confront Jen with
  • 00:18:50
    the news of Ryan's death we're trying to
  • 00:18:52
    find Emma and um we were somewhat
  • 00:18:55
    successful in that okay wait what
  • 00:18:59
    somewhat mhm what leads that's we need
  • 00:19:03
    you to fill in the gaps because whatever
  • 00:19:06
    happened to Emma happened in the
  • 00:19:08
    apartment where you guys stayed at and
  • 00:19:11
    we've recovered evidence from the
  • 00:19:13
    apartment we recovered evidence from
  • 00:19:15
    Sarah's car right blood wait whoa what
  • 00:19:19
    mhm blood from the trunk of the car
  • 00:19:22
    blood from the apartment by the bathtub
  • 00:19:24
    where in part of Emma's body with this
  • 00:19:29
    even though they'd all moved out by
  • 00:19:30
    early
  • 00:19:31
    2016 investigators were able to access
  • 00:19:34
    the apartment where Sarah Jen Corey and
  • 00:19:36
    Ryan had once lived in July 2021 a month
  • 00:19:41
    before they spoke with JY and Sarah
  • 00:19:43
    authorities visited the apartment and
  • 00:19:45
    asked the current residents to leave
  • 00:19:46
    while they conducted tests throughout
  • 00:19:48
    the building under close examination
  • 00:19:51
    several areas in the bathroom reacted to
  • 00:19:53
    a chemical reagent indicating latent
  • 00:19:55
    blood residue including the bathroom
  • 00:19:58
    floor and the cabinet no way no way she
  • 00:20:01
    had anything to do with any of that she
  • 00:20:03
    did no there's no way tell me
  • 00:20:07
    why
  • 00:20:09
    it's the Google searches the the the
  • 00:20:11
    Deep Dives that we did the stuff that
  • 00:20:13
    she was into at least right painting
  • 00:20:16
    with blood likeing drinking the blood
  • 00:20:19
    and then the searches that she did on
  • 00:20:20
    her Android phone I I don't know I don't
  • 00:20:23
    know about any of the blood stuff while
  • 00:20:26
    this comment about painting with blood
  • 00:20:27
    will be explained of eventually
  • 00:20:29
    investigators won't have the chance to
  • 00:20:31
    ask Sarah about it just yet because she
  • 00:20:33
    immediately throws a wrench into their
  • 00:20:35
    plans SAR a lawyer I can talk to that
  • 00:20:39
    wasn't my rights right well that's your
  • 00:20:42
    decision I we don't we don't advise on
  • 00:20:46
    that but all we're asking is for the
  • 00:20:48
    truth I don't I don't know what to
  • 00:20:53
    say the truth maybe I've said what I
  • 00:20:56
    what I remember and you're telling me
  • 00:20:59
    that's the truth that's what I remember
  • 00:21:01
    this is going to be your only time to
  • 00:21:03
    talk to me and
  • 00:21:07
    Megan after this we we were not allowed
  • 00:21:10
    to help so what happens to me after this
  • 00:21:14
    you're going to be booked into the
  • 00:21:16
    County local County Jail
  • 00:21:18
    here I mean we wouldn't be doing this if
  • 00:21:20
    we didn't have physical
  • 00:21:24
    evidence that's why I was giving you an
  • 00:21:26
    opportunity
  • 00:21:31
    okay all right
  • 00:21:36
    Sarah thank you once again the
  • 00:21:39
    detectives leave Sarah alone in contrast
  • 00:21:42
    those speaking with Jen lay on the
  • 00:21:44
    pressure this is a fever dream I'm sorry
  • 00:21:49
    this is a fever dream I know this feels
  • 00:21:52
    like a nightmare now so we need you to
  • 00:21:53
    fill in the other parts of this thing
  • 00:21:54
    because this is this isn't a nightmare
  • 00:21:56
    Em's dead Emma's dead 's dead Cory's
  • 00:21:59
    dead no no Emma's dead okay did Cory
  • 00:22:02
    have you guys get rid of his issue he a
  • 00:22:05
    like Emma coming up Emma's not what he
  • 00:22:07
    expected the Selfies didn't show what
  • 00:22:10
    Cory had wanted comes up Emma's
  • 00:22:13
    completely shy reclusive nothing what
  • 00:22:16
    Cory expected Cory went away for the
  • 00:22:18
    weekend for you and Sarah to get rid of
  • 00:22:20
    his problem Cory and Sarah were fighting
  • 00:22:22
    a lot over it let's just get rid of the
  • 00:22:26
    problem so what happened there no it
  • 00:22:30
    isn't long before the detectives decide
  • 00:22:32
    to once again try speaking with Sarah
  • 00:22:34
    and this time they will hear a stomach
  • 00:22:36
    turning
  • 00:22:38
    confession um Megan here has something
  • 00:22:40
    want have something we need to take a
  • 00:22:42
    look at
  • 00:22:43
    okay and read over and we'll get your
  • 00:22:47
    thoughts on
  • 00:22:48
    that this is from your Google account
  • 00:22:53
    okay these are your searches on your
  • 00:22:56
    Google account that you said you don't
  • 00:22:57
    have access to so flip through these
  • 00:23:00
    pages and take a gander at that after
  • 00:23:03
    seeing the evidence within her own
  • 00:23:04
    search history showing that she looked
  • 00:23:06
    up how to start Ryan's car after it
  • 00:23:08
    broke down Sarah begins to
  • 00:23:11
    unravel what's happened to my family
  • 00:23:14
    well we'll talk to your family okay and
  • 00:23:16
    you'll get to talk to your family
  • 00:23:19
    okay we can work through
  • 00:23:22
    this one one thing at a time this is the
  • 00:23:24
    first
  • 00:23:26
    step okay look at me I'm scared
  • 00:23:29
    okay I understand you're
  • 00:23:31
    scared okay they' ever got was a
  • 00:23:34
    speeding
  • 00:23:35
    ticket you're an honest person okay I
  • 00:23:38
    don't think you're a bad person at all
  • 00:23:40
    Sarah let us help
  • 00:23:43
    you go ahead and start from the
  • 00:23:45
    beginning okay it was an accident okay
  • 00:23:48
    it was an accident accidents happen
  • 00:23:49
    every
  • 00:23:50
    day so what
  • 00:23:53
    happened I was
  • 00:23:55
    angry okay I get angry too
  • 00:24:00
    and I knocked him down when he came out
  • 00:24:04
    of the
  • 00:24:09
    bathroom and I choked
  • 00:24:15
    him and then I didn't know what to
  • 00:24:18
    do I never done anything like that got
  • 00:24:22
    scared didn't know what to do we're
  • 00:24:25
    scared I realized I ruined my
  • 00:24:30
    while the detectives speaking with Sarah
  • 00:24:32
    have finally made some Headway those
  • 00:24:34
    with Jen are hitting roadblock after
  • 00:24:36
    roadblock I'll be honest with you I
  • 00:24:38
    think it's been eating you up is it
  • 00:24:40
    eatting Sarah up I mean people can have
  • 00:24:43
    differences with people right but to
  • 00:24:45
    this extent you know it would eat it
  • 00:24:47
    would eat somebody up literally I mean
  • 00:24:50
    you would be not sleeping well not
  • 00:24:52
    functioning well you know it's it's a
  • 00:24:55
    lot right
  • 00:24:57
    no yeah that's yeah that's a lot yeah it
  • 00:25:00
    it's it is but
  • 00:25:04
    no no I wasn't aware of that I've been
  • 00:25:07
    living
  • 00:25:09
    fine okay so maybe things were fine
  • 00:25:12
    things were fine until em came along and
  • 00:25:15
    then things were fine no no think no if
  • 00:25:18
    you want to go back to that no but even
  • 00:25:22
    even even then no but you know things
  • 00:25:25
    things have been fine there was no
  • 00:25:28
    murder Weighing on us while Jen
  • 00:25:31
    continues denying any knowledge Sarah is
  • 00:25:34
    telling a very different story I put him
  • 00:25:36
    in a choke ho and knocked him
  • 00:25:39
    down did he pass out were their words
  • 00:25:43
    exchanged he passed out
  • 00:25:46
    okay and I didn't let go mhm and then it
  • 00:25:51
    was too late he stopped
  • 00:25:54
    moving he started turning white
  • 00:26:00
    I couldn't go near him though this is
  • 00:26:02
    the first time Sarah has shared what
  • 00:26:04
    happened to Ryan this is only one
  • 00:26:06
    version of the story and with each
  • 00:26:08
    retelling the details only grow more and
  • 00:26:10
    more unsettling Sarah claims that Jen
  • 00:26:13
    heard the commotion from downstairs and
  • 00:26:15
    came up to see what had happened had to
  • 00:26:18
    figure out how to get rid of it mhm so
  • 00:26:21
    what
  • 00:26:23
    happened
  • 00:26:24
    [Music]
  • 00:26:25
    cut we being you and Jen
  • 00:26:29
    was this when Cory was away with at the
  • 00:26:32
    hotel okay so where did you cut him up
  • 00:26:35
    at Bathtub bathtub what did you use some
  • 00:26:40
    kind of song where did that come
  • 00:26:44
    from I found it in shed so you each have
  • 00:26:49
    your own shed there mhm
  • 00:26:53
    okay who did The Cutting mostly me Jen
  • 00:26:57
    on the other hand refuses to make any
  • 00:27:00
    concessions I just don't remember yeah
  • 00:27:02
    you do no I don't here's the thing
  • 00:27:05
    you're going to remember these things
  • 00:27:07
    yeah I would probably remember if there
  • 00:27:09
    was murder and a saw and where did you
  • 00:27:12
    cut him
  • 00:27:13
    at again this is all stuff I already
  • 00:27:16
    know okay I just need to hear it
  • 00:27:17
    straight from you joints joints can you
  • 00:27:21
    point to the I guess what you mean by
  • 00:27:23
    joints the
  • 00:27:26
    elbows the wrists ankles mm
  • 00:27:31
    knees and then up here on my neck okay
  • 00:27:35
    does Jen help cut him up not not really
  • 00:27:38
    she wasn't feeling well she got kind of
  • 00:27:42
    sick okay so I took over most of it but
  • 00:27:46
    did she help a little bit at the
  • 00:27:47
    beginning
  • 00:27:48
    okay we were both really scared one of
  • 00:27:52
    the officers and Jen's interview steps
  • 00:27:54
    out of the room to take a call and when
  • 00:27:56
    they return they have news that will
  • 00:27:58
    flip jy's denials upside down got an
  • 00:28:01
    update okay Sarah just admitted
  • 00:28:04
    everything and you help dismember the
  • 00:28:06
    body she admitted to all of it okay so
  • 00:28:09
    fill us in with what's going on right
  • 00:28:12
    with a car you're going to remember
  • 00:28:14
    everything cuz so at this point Sarah
  • 00:28:17
    spilling the beans on the whole kitten
  • 00:28:20
    Kaboodle okay okay this is where we told
  • 00:28:22
    you before we knew where we were at so
  • 00:28:24
    this Amnesia that you have isn't going
  • 00:28:27
    to work because now now you're
  • 00:28:28
    implicated in this as well I don't have
  • 00:28:30
    amnesia then fill it in fill it in I
  • 00:28:33
    didn't do
  • 00:28:34
    that I just got the phone call from the
  • 00:28:36
    analyst that's listening in on the
  • 00:28:38
    interview and she's coming clean right
  • 00:28:40
    they're watching it live okay she's
  • 00:28:42
    coming clean and you help dismember the
  • 00:28:44
    body with her not Sarah's not going to
  • 00:28:47
    be able to do this by herself yeah and
  • 00:28:49
    if she said that then she's
  • 00:28:52
    lying you just said before jarah
  • 00:28:55
    wouldn't lie she's not lying I didn't
  • 00:28:57
    say she wouldn't so who's lying
  • 00:28:59
    here it's not Sarah it is definitely
  • 00:29:02
    Sarah if she said
  • 00:29:06
    that yeah I would remember that just to
  • 00:29:08
    the point because you're being
  • 00:29:09
    implicated now so now it's a
  • 00:29:12
    lie
  • 00:29:14
    no we just want to get Emma his family
  • 00:29:17
    yes where where did you guys go then
  • 00:29:20
    with the body all right let's get to
  • 00:29:21
    this part here where did you go with the
  • 00:29:24
    body after it's dismembered and don't
  • 00:29:26
    say you don't know
  • 00:29:28
    because I have to say I don't know for
  • 00:29:31
    that because we didn't do that luckily
  • 00:29:33
    for investigators Sarah is giving them
  • 00:29:35
    all the answers this however is only her
  • 00:29:38
    first confession and she will eventually
  • 00:29:40
    share another that changes everything so
  • 00:29:44
    got him cut up then what happens we have
  • 00:29:47
    to figure out where to put everything so
  • 00:29:50
    where did you say put his belongings
  • 00:29:52
    where did those go like his clothes and
  • 00:29:54
    his um just in one of the bags where
  • 00:29:58
    uh we put those in a bin like a dumpster
  • 00:30:02
    no like
  • 00:30:03
    um like a tupperware bin oh okay and
  • 00:30:07
    where did that go in the back of his car
  • 00:30:11
    okay we were going to drive the car
  • 00:30:14
    somewhere mhm and leave
  • 00:30:19
    it till the car would start this is the
  • 00:30:23
    real story about the tow truck according
  • 00:30:25
    to Sarah she and Jen plan to dispose of
  • 00:30:28
    Ryan's dismembered body parts which they
  • 00:30:30
    loaded into the back of Ryan's own car
  • 00:30:33
    while their plan had been to abandon the
  • 00:30:35
    car in a deserted location in Illinois
  • 00:30:37
    before taking a Greyhound bus back
  • 00:30:39
    Ryan's car refused to start after they
  • 00:30:41
    stopped at a gas station this incident
  • 00:30:44
    has a horrific new implication Ryan's
  • 00:30:47
    remains were still in the back of the
  • 00:30:49
    car when the vehicle was towed and Sarah
  • 00:30:51
    and Jen then had to move the Tupperware
  • 00:30:53
    bin full of his dismembered body parts
  • 00:30:55
    in broad daylight into Sarah's car they
  • 00:30:59
    left Ryan's vehicle in the street where
  • 00:31:01
    the police eventually towed away we
  • 00:31:04
    started
  • 00:31:06
    driving and trying to get rid of little
  • 00:31:10
    things at a time along the road or is
  • 00:31:13
    there special spots in in public
  • 00:31:16
    dumpsters
  • 00:31:18
    okay so did you dispose of like his
  • 00:31:21
    limbs in different spots okay do you
  • 00:31:24
    know where those spots
  • 00:31:26
    are I do just stopped wherever something
  • 00:31:30
    looked okay I seemed like secluded or
  • 00:31:33
    something like that couple couple gas
  • 00:31:38
    stations mostly just just public
  • 00:31:41
    dumpsters I I don't I really don't know
  • 00:31:44
    while Sarah doesn't clarify they only
  • 00:31:46
    disposed of Ryan's torso and belongings
  • 00:31:49
    the rest of his Limbs and head had a
  • 00:31:51
    different even more alarming destination
  • 00:31:54
    here's the thing you have been holding
  • 00:31:55
    back this whole time with all the stuff
  • 00:31:59
    because I don't think you thought Sarah
  • 00:32:00
    was going to be honest about it but she
  • 00:32:02
    is oh okay so let's do the right thing
  • 00:32:04
    and you wanted to do the right thing
  • 00:32:06
    right so tell us about that about what
  • 00:32:10
    about the dismembering it and then where
  • 00:32:12
    you went from there dismember anybody
  • 00:32:14
    you did no I did not that's fing insane
  • 00:32:17
    it's not insane happens all the time I
  • 00:32:20
    mean you may not want to admit to doing
  • 00:32:22
    it right but this stuff happens all the
  • 00:32:24
    time so where was Cory during this no
  • 00:32:27
    idea no idea still at the hotel guess so
  • 00:32:30
    okay any communication with him I shut
  • 00:32:32
    off my phone okay why did you shut off
  • 00:32:35
    your phone I was scared okay did he know
  • 00:32:39
    something had
  • 00:32:41
    happened I don't think so I told him
  • 00:32:44
    Ryan just
  • 00:32:47
    left and he didn't ask any questions
  • 00:32:50
    despite several attempts to get Cory to
  • 00:32:52
    speak with police Cory steadfastly
  • 00:32:55
    refused I have no idea what go what
  • 00:32:58
    you're talking about okay so you don't
  • 00:32:59
    know Ryan I don't you don't know Ryan he
  • 00:33:02
    didn't live with you at all I'm not
  • 00:33:04
    going to talk to you without okay an
  • 00:33:07
    attorney present they're talking with
  • 00:33:09
    with uh Sarah and Jen okay everybody
  • 00:33:12
    involved that weekend we're talking to
  • 00:33:14
    right now except you right now cuz right
  • 00:33:16
    now you kind of look like the bad guy
  • 00:33:18
    you don't want to talk to us everybody
  • 00:33:19
    else wants to talk to us that's that
  • 00:33:22
    doesn't look good for you yeah they they
  • 00:33:24
    told me that you would say that but I
  • 00:33:26
    who would say that my attorney okay Cory
  • 00:33:29
    refuses to speak any further and
  • 00:33:30
    ultimately never comes in to discuss
  • 00:33:32
    Ryan's case with officers without Cory's
  • 00:33:35
    help detectives will have to put more
  • 00:33:37
    pressure on the people who are talking
  • 00:33:38
    to them Sarah and Jen one thing still
  • 00:33:41
    isn't clear a motive why were you so
  • 00:33:45
    angry at him what happened that you came
  • 00:33:47
    up behind him and started joking he
  • 00:33:50
    ruined my life tell me a little bit
  • 00:33:52
    about that I mean I told you the
  • 00:33:56
    arguments Cory and I had mhm
  • 00:34:01
    and I couldn't make him see reason the
  • 00:34:04
    officer talking to Jen also triy to
  • 00:34:07
    understand a motive you would do
  • 00:34:08
    whatever you could to make Sarah
  • 00:34:10
    happy so let's get rid of M because that
  • 00:34:14
    would make Sarah happy right to get her
  • 00:34:16
    out of that household sure but they
  • 00:34:19
    agreed to leave but she wasn't not
  • 00:34:21
    willingly not fast
  • 00:34:24
    enough she or she agreed to leave
  • 00:34:28
    without meaning to Jen points out a
  • 00:34:29
    glaring issue with Sarah's current
  • 00:34:31
    confession if Ryan had agreed to leave
  • 00:34:34
    why didn't she simply let that happen
  • 00:34:37
    this exact question will be Central to
  • 00:34:39
    the story Sarah tells later did Jen know
  • 00:34:42
    that this was going to
  • 00:34:43
    happen no but she she was there for me
  • 00:34:48
    sure she's your support you said
  • 00:34:50
    that that's what support people do PR
  • 00:34:53
    for you I'm worried about what's going
  • 00:34:55
    to happen to
  • 00:34:56
    her want I understand that we we
  • 00:34:59
    understand and we we appreciate
  • 00:35:02
    you you talking to us openly but
  • 00:35:05
    detectives have no reason to assume that
  • 00:35:07
    Sarah means anything more than simply
  • 00:35:09
    worrying about Jen but her concern hints
  • 00:35:11
    at a disastrous turn of events soon to
  • 00:35:14
    come so what happened you got him
  • 00:35:19
    something happened to Emma and you put
  • 00:35:21
    them in the tub and and you guys did
  • 00:35:23
    your thing fill us in on that please
  • 00:35:27
    didn't happen she's filling in the gaps
  • 00:35:30
    where you are not filling the gaps
  • 00:35:33
    though we know that you know what
  • 00:35:35
    happened right because it's written all
  • 00:35:38
    over you I mean as soon as you get to a
  • 00:35:39
    hot point you minimize and you kind of
  • 00:35:41
    look down it's like it's like a kid with
  • 00:35:43
    a parent I don't want to look and
  • 00:35:44
    acknowledge that I'm lying to you
  • 00:35:46
    surprise I have anxiety so when you
  • 00:35:49
    started dismembering it right so what
  • 00:35:52
    happened from there not right so Sarah
  • 00:35:55
    started Sarah dismembering at this point
  • 00:35:57
    in time you're just holding on to the
  • 00:36:00
    limbs you're keeping a lookout what are
  • 00:36:02
    you doing no no she's not cutting this
  • 00:36:05
    body up herself that's probably because
  • 00:36:08
    she didn't cut up a body she just
  • 00:36:10
    admitted
  • 00:36:15
    to no she didn't she did yes she did the
  • 00:36:19
    detectives attempt a different approach
  • 00:36:21
    to get Jen to talk it's more beneficial
  • 00:36:24
    to go this is this is where it is and it
  • 00:36:26
    shows that you're wanting to make things
  • 00:36:27
    right you want to get things better and
  • 00:36:30
    you're showing remorse because the judge
  • 00:36:33
    back in our remorse
  • 00:36:35
    because I don't know how to process this
  • 00:36:38
    and I'm not showing remorse there is no
  • 00:36:40
    remorse to be had so getting rid of a
  • 00:36:43
    disposing of a body you you shouldn't
  • 00:36:44
    show remorse for that of course you
  • 00:36:46
    should you're still in shock that Sarah
  • 00:36:49
    has come clean with everything right
  • 00:36:52
    there's there's no way there's no way
  • 00:36:54
    she did this your world's crashing down
  • 00:36:57
    and we're just trying to help you figure
  • 00:36:59
    a way to make it a little softer of a
  • 00:37:01
    crash even though Jen refuses to believe
  • 00:37:04
    Sarah admitted to the death and
  • 00:37:05
    dismemberment of Ryan Sarah's own
  • 00:37:08
    interview is already wrapping up I just
  • 00:37:10
    don't know what to do because I I
  • 00:37:12
    thought I had my whole life ahead of
  • 00:37:15
    me and I made one
  • 00:37:17
    mistake that's exact now it's
  • 00:37:22
    over put yourself short I just turned 30
  • 00:37:25
    and I feel like that's that's one step
  • 00:37:28
    at a time okay one foot in front of the
  • 00:37:30
    other at a time here continuing to show
  • 00:37:32
    an unsettling lack of concern for Ryan
  • 00:37:35
    Sarah then makes an inquiry is there any
  • 00:37:38
    kind of bail or am I going to have to
  • 00:37:40
    stay there the whole time there's not
  • 00:37:42
    bail right now but that's not to say
  • 00:37:44
    that there won't be bail in the future
  • 00:37:46
    okay just not right at the present time
  • 00:37:48
    Sarah is informed that the charges
  • 00:37:50
    against her include tampering with
  • 00:37:52
    evidence grand theft of a motor vehicle
  • 00:37:54
    abuse of a corpse and gross abuse of a
  • 00:37:57
    corpse okay I appreciate you being
  • 00:37:58
    honest with
  • 00:38:00
    us that's that's the kind of person you
  • 00:38:03
    are thank you Sarah I hope it
  • 00:38:10
    doesn't we'll give you a few points okay
  • 00:38:13
    one of the officers who had been
  • 00:38:14
    interviewing Sarah heads over to Sarah's
  • 00:38:16
    mom's house in order to take a crack at
  • 00:38:18
    Jen and see if he can break through the
  • 00:38:20
    unrelenting denials this is where
  • 00:38:23
    everything goes horribly wrong where are
  • 00:38:26
    they though the video footage is
  • 00:38:28
    redacted Jen is introduced to the
  • 00:38:30
    detective who spoke with Sarah and has
  • 00:38:32
    then read the Miranda Rights am I being
  • 00:38:35
    arrested okay well we have some things
  • 00:38:37
    we need to talk to you about but you're
  • 00:38:38
    not saying yes or no well because it all
  • 00:38:41
    depends on you so we're going based on
  • 00:38:43
    physical evidence and now what Sarah
  • 00:38:45
    told us that's my job I'm doing my job
  • 00:38:48
    they're doing their
  • 00:38:50
    job they I'm sorry I don't want to put
  • 00:38:54
    words in no but go ahead they said that
  • 00:38:57
    she's
  • 00:38:58
    said she she did she was involved
  • 00:39:02
    absolutely 100% And this interview is
  • 00:39:06
    being recorded okay and I cannot lie
  • 00:39:10
    about that okay I trust you she
  • 00:39:14
    absolutely said she was involved and she
  • 00:39:16
    gave details and um and you were
  • 00:39:19
    involved in those details I mean I'm not
  • 00:39:22
    making this up I I don't know how I was
  • 00:39:26
    involved well I'm she told us how you
  • 00:39:28
    were involved but I don't want to go
  • 00:39:29
    into those details because if you tell
  • 00:39:31
    me and something's different I have to
  • 00:39:33
    go back and talk to her and try to iron
  • 00:39:36
    out the inconsistencies hearing that the
  • 00:39:38
    detective isn't lying about Sarah's
  • 00:39:40
    confession seems to be a turning point
  • 00:39:42
    for Jen but not in the way they hope I
  • 00:39:45
    don't remember any of
  • 00:39:48
    that I don't know why Sarah would say
  • 00:39:50
    that you're just surprised Sarah it of
  • 00:39:54
    course I am right because You' gotten
  • 00:39:56
    away with it this whole time until today
  • 00:39:58
    after hours of conversation the new
  • 00:40:00
    detective points out something that the
  • 00:40:02
    others have failed to notice while
  • 00:40:04
    speaking with the officers a purse has
  • 00:40:06
    remained on Jen's lap what's in your
  • 00:40:11
    purse
  • 00:40:14
    comfortable after Jen explains they
  • 00:40:16
    quickly move on and continue questioning
  • 00:40:19
    this time about the evidence they've
  • 00:40:20
    uncovered a choice that will likely
  • 00:40:22
    haunt the detectives for the rest of
  • 00:40:24
    their careers and we found large
  • 00:40:27
    quantities of blood in the
  • 00:40:29
    trunk from Emma that's a clue we call
  • 00:40:33
    them police
  • 00:40:34
    work you know I'm not trying to be I'm
  • 00:40:37
    not trying to be factious but uh but
  • 00:40:39
    that's called a clue you know so I mean
  • 00:40:43
    uh when we put two and two together and
  • 00:40:45
    then we we talk to Sarah and it all kind
  • 00:40:48
    of matches up you know what I mean it
  • 00:40:51
    all matches up what's going to happen to
  • 00:40:53
    her well I don't know it all depends on
  • 00:40:56
    what you tell me
  • 00:40:58
    to M all that she didn't do anything but
  • 00:41:01
    I'd be more worried about yourself right
  • 00:41:03
    now why because of what she's telling us
  • 00:41:06
    and the physical
  • 00:41:08
    evidence and the social media search
  • 00:41:11
    warrants that we did I'm not worried
  • 00:41:13
    about myself there's a very good reason
  • 00:41:16
    Jen isn't worried and once again the
  • 00:41:18
    purse comes up I mean like weapons in
  • 00:41:21
    there do
  • 00:41:22
    you what are you playing with in your
  • 00:41:24
    purse yes or no no
  • 00:41:27
    so Jen like we talked about you asked if
  • 00:41:30
    you were under arrest you you are going
  • 00:41:32
    to be placed into custody
  • 00:41:36
    um I I want to before this gentleman
  • 00:41:39
    he's a detective with the Maran uh city
  • 00:41:41
    of Maran Police Department um you're
  • 00:41:44
    going to be booked into
  • 00:41:55
    there Central 055
  • 00:41:59
    I need an ambulance shots
  • 00:42:01
    fired how long's your hand been in
  • 00:42:09
    that need you to respond to the
  • 00:42:14
    scene affirmative none of ours right we
  • 00:42:17
    didn't return anything negative no
  • 00:42:20
    officer involved just as officers began
  • 00:42:22
    their arrest Jen pulled a small handgun
  • 00:42:24
    out of the purse and fired Jen was
  • 00:42:27
    pronounced dead at the scene from a
  • 00:42:29
    single bullet wound to the back of the
  • 00:42:31
    head while this is happening back at the
  • 00:42:33
    police station Sarah is Led away in
  • 00:42:35
    handcuffs unbeknownst to her Jen has
  • 00:42:38
    just died stand up turn around and put
  • 00:42:40
    your handcuffs okay am we able to use
  • 00:42:43
    the restroom again before we when we get
  • 00:42:46
    over to the jail I'll let you use the
  • 00:42:47
    restroom over there okay okay months
  • 00:42:50
    after her arrest and jy's death Sarah is
  • 00:42:52
    brought in to share an entirely new
  • 00:42:54
    version of Ryan's death morning how are
  • 00:42:58
    you doing Sarah feel to have a seat
  • 00:43:01
    people here we didn't want to be rude
  • 00:43:03
    drinking our coffee in front of you so
  • 00:43:04
    we got you want feel free than you so to
  • 00:43:07
    have it if you like if you don't like
  • 00:43:08
    coffee then oh I haven't had coffee for
  • 00:43:10
    so long it is it's a a specialty it's a
  • 00:43:13
    Cinnabon so okay something good after a
  • 00:43:16
    few more pleasantries the investigators
  • 00:43:18
    clarify with Sarah that her lawyers
  • 00:43:20
    agreed she can speak with them and they
  • 00:43:22
    read her Miranda writes they immediately
  • 00:43:24
    Begin by discussing Sarah's new
  • 00:43:26
    confession in this discussion she refers
  • 00:43:28
    to Jen by the name naira on the morning
  • 00:43:31
    of the
  • 00:43:33
    26th uh naira
  • 00:43:37
    started uh voicing some plan about
  • 00:43:40
    killing him and I did not take her
  • 00:43:42
    seriously because she would make
  • 00:43:44
    comments like that
  • 00:43:46
    sometimes I still didn't take her
  • 00:43:48
    seriously but I was starting to get
  • 00:43:50
    worried because of how intricate it was
  • 00:43:53
    getting um and then when she started ga
  • 00:43:57
    ing tools like uh trash bags bleach um
  • 00:44:01
    the handsaw from the shed uh I realized
  • 00:44:04
    she was
  • 00:44:05
    serious so I I tried to talk her out a
  • 00:44:08
    it
  • 00:44:10
    um calmly at first and then I started
  • 00:44:12
    getting a little
  • 00:44:14
    hysterical um and she told me that if I
  • 00:44:18
    didn't help that she was going to do it
  • 00:44:20
    anyway um and usually at this point the
  • 00:44:23
    attorneys ask me well why why did you do
  • 00:44:25
    it why didn't you call the police Why
  • 00:44:26
    didn't you kick her out um and it was
  • 00:44:31
    because I loved her I was so scared and
  • 00:44:35
    horrified but there wasn't I I didn't
  • 00:44:39
    stop I didn't stop her I didn't was
  • 00:44:42
    problem yeah she had a
  • 00:44:46
    rag uh that she dipped in bleach and she
  • 00:44:50
    had a bottle of vinegar next to her to
  • 00:44:54
    add to it when the time came because I
  • 00:44:57
    guess they had some kind of chemical
  • 00:44:58
    reaction and released some kind of
  • 00:45:00
    poisonous gas I don't really know but
  • 00:45:02
    she did the research for it though Sarah
  • 00:45:04
    has significantly shifted the roles that
  • 00:45:06
    she and Jen play in the planning and
  • 00:45:08
    execution of Ryan's death she still
  • 00:45:10
    tells detectives that she jumped on him
  • 00:45:12
    when he came out of the bathroom before
  • 00:45:14
    Jen then held the rag over Ryan's mouth
  • 00:45:17
    the changes in her story only become
  • 00:45:19
    more apparent as the details grow even
  • 00:45:21
    more
  • 00:45:22
    brutal um when he started making these
  • 00:45:28
    guttural gasping noises um naira let me
  • 00:45:32
    get out from under him and I curled up
  • 00:45:34
    in the office and cried so I stayed in
  • 00:45:37
    the office for a while
  • 00:45:39
    until she did get him in the bathtub and
  • 00:45:42
    she had put a trash bag over his head
  • 00:45:46
    and severed it and then
  • 00:45:50
    put that into the freezer so that she
  • 00:45:53
    could deal with it later since her
  • 00:45:55
    arrest investigators have CED chilling
  • 00:45:57
    evidence about the fate of Ryan's
  • 00:45:59
    decapitated head something they'll bring
  • 00:46:02
    up shortly in this retelling rather than
  • 00:46:05
    JY being the one to dispose of Ryan's
  • 00:46:07
    clothing it was Sarah who took on this
  • 00:46:09
    job however this doesn't mean she didn't
  • 00:46:12
    help with the dismemberment she started
  • 00:46:14
    to get intestinal cramps um so she went
  • 00:46:17
    to lie down and said I had to take
  • 00:46:20
    over um so I put the hands in one bag or
  • 00:46:25
    no um the hands in the feet she told
  • 00:46:26
    told me to put in a bag and then she
  • 00:46:29
    also put it in the freezer for later
  • 00:46:31
    because she said those would be the two
  • 00:46:34
    big identifying factors and she would
  • 00:46:37
    have to deal with them
  • 00:46:39
    separately um so I removed the the
  • 00:46:42
    forearms and the calves at the joints it
  • 00:46:46
    was slow exhausting work um and I did
  • 00:46:50
    not work fast enough um her original
  • 00:46:54
    idea was to cut a everything into as
  • 00:46:57
    small of manageable pieces as possible
  • 00:47:00
    and then uh dispose of them that way but
  • 00:47:04
    we didn't have enough time to do that so
  • 00:47:06
    we just had the head hands and feet the
  • 00:47:10
    forearms went in one bag the calvs went
  • 00:47:12
    in another bag and then we just had to
  • 00:47:13
    deal with the Torso after this the story
  • 00:47:16
    remained the same they loaded Ryan's
  • 00:47:18
    dismembered body into a tupperware
  • 00:47:20
    container and attempted to use Ryan's
  • 00:47:22
    vehicle until they eventually had to
  • 00:47:24
    call a tow truck the difference this
  • 00:47:26
    time
  • 00:47:27
    apparently Jen was the one telling Sarah
  • 00:47:29
    where to go as they drove towards
  • 00:47:31
    Illinois stopping randomly to dispose of
  • 00:47:34
    Ryan's remains including the area where
  • 00:47:36
    Ryan's torso was eventually discovered
  • 00:47:38
    in Mercer County 2 hours from Columbus
  • 00:47:42
    the fate of Ryan's head was an entirely
  • 00:47:45
    different story investigators eventually
  • 00:47:47
    searched the garage at Sarah's mom's
  • 00:47:49
    house where they found several boxes
  • 00:47:51
    filled with what appeared to be human
  • 00:47:53
    remains this included a pot filled with
  • 00:47:55
    a thick substance hidden within layers
  • 00:47:57
    of plastic garbage bags after the pot
  • 00:48:01
    was emptied investigators recovered a
  • 00:48:03
    human skull in this version of her story
  • 00:48:06
    Sarah claims it was Jen who disposed of
  • 00:48:08
    the remaining limbs but also because she
  • 00:48:11
    didn't know the best way to dispose of
  • 00:48:13
    it yet M um so we had to carry or so she
  • 00:48:19
    she put it in the soup bin put that in a
  • 00:48:24
    bag or several bags put put the pieces
  • 00:48:27
    of the hands and feet also in the bag
  • 00:48:29
    and then kept bagging it up and we put
  • 00:48:32
    it in the shed for the time being and
  • 00:48:34
    every time we moved it would have to
  • 00:48:37
    come with us so that was a weit that I
  • 00:48:41
    had to drag with me everywhere I went
  • 00:48:44
    for a long time we would check the news
  • 00:48:46
    constantly um that's when we found out
  • 00:48:48
    that the Torso was discovered um But as
  • 00:48:53
    time went on and we didn't see any new
  • 00:48:55
    news um we started planning for a future
  • 00:49:00
    instead
  • 00:49:03
    um and she
  • 00:49:08
    had she had we had done a we made a PCT
  • 00:49:13
    that um should something go wrong or we
  • 00:49:16
    get discovered that she was going to
  • 00:49:18
    shoot me first as she said she would
  • 00:49:21
    rather die than spend her life in prison
  • 00:49:24
    the arrest came and when I said goodbye
  • 00:49:28
    to her I could see it in her face
  • 00:49:32
    that she knew this confession sheds an
  • 00:49:36
    entirely new light on the footage of Jen
  • 00:49:38
    and Sarah saying goodbye when she was
  • 00:49:40
    arrested you want to tell your wife bye
  • 00:49:42
    or
  • 00:49:48
    anything okay you had
  • 00:49:51
    mentioned the the bleach and vinegar on
  • 00:49:54
    the ring okay and then mentioned
  • 00:49:56
    something different was put into the pot
  • 00:49:58
    uh lie some kind of lie mixture okay and
  • 00:50:01
    is that something you would have had on
  • 00:50:02
    hand or did she go out and purchase that
  • 00:50:04
    she did purchase
  • 00:50:06
    um it the uh the head in the freezer
  • 00:50:10
    didn't draw any attention because she
  • 00:50:13
    had packed like vegetables and stuff in
  • 00:50:15
    front of it so it didn't look like it
  • 00:50:17
    was anything this is a horrifying detail
  • 00:50:21
    while Cory was still living in the house
  • 00:50:23
    Ryan's decapitated head was in the home
  • 00:50:26
    hidden just out of sight behind some
  • 00:50:28
    frozen vegetables the detectives take a
  • 00:50:31
    quick break before returning to clarify
  • 00:50:32
    a few more details including the comment
  • 00:50:35
    investigators initially made to Jen
  • 00:50:37
    during her interview about Sarah
  • 00:50:39
    painting with blood so art for me is uh
  • 00:50:43
    A coping mechanism um and I know that
  • 00:50:46
    Randy and Eric had mentioned that there
  • 00:50:48
    were two pieces in particular that gave
  • 00:50:51
    people red flags um one was a painting
  • 00:50:55
    of uh of a sheep with um that was done
  • 00:51:01
    in blood um or some of it that piece I
  • 00:51:05
    had done prior to ever knowing about
  • 00:51:09
    Ryan um that was a coping mechanism for
  • 00:51:14
    everything that i' been through with
  • 00:51:16
    Corey Sarah posted this drawing to her
  • 00:51:18
    illustration Facebook page in June 2015
  • 00:51:22
    titling it sacrificial lamb though she
  • 00:51:25
    created it a few months before before
  • 00:51:26
    meeting Ryan it eily depicted the lamb
  • 00:51:29
    dismembered and
  • 00:51:31
    decapitated um the other one was uh a
  • 00:51:35
    mermaid um holding a a human head and I
  • 00:51:37
    know that uh people thought or at least
  • 00:51:41
    I heard that this was like showing like
  • 00:51:45
    look what I did what Sarah doesn't
  • 00:51:47
    mention is that she titled this drawing
  • 00:51:49
    till death do us part um but that was
  • 00:51:52
    also a coping mechanism having to um
  • 00:51:56
    drag that around with me everywhere we
  • 00:51:59
    moved during the interview Sarah also
  • 00:52:02
    doodled a quick drawing of the saw they
  • 00:52:04
    used to dismember Ryan The elusive
  • 00:52:07
    motive still needs to be clarified and
  • 00:52:09
    so detectives ask the haunting question
  • 00:52:11
    of why Sarah and Jen didn't simply let
  • 00:52:13
    Ryan leave the apartment as planned and
  • 00:52:16
    the thing she said was along the lines
  • 00:52:18
    of someone like that doesn't deserve to
  • 00:52:21
    be out in the world to ruin someone
  • 00:52:23
    else's life so I think think in some
  • 00:52:27
    perverse way it was her idea that she I
  • 00:52:30
    don't want to go so far as to say she
  • 00:52:33
    was dealing out justice but um she just
  • 00:52:38
    felt very strongly
  • 00:52:41
    that he didn't deserve to be out there
  • 00:52:44
    she said that if you want to transition
  • 00:52:46
    your goal is to just fit in to and
  • 00:52:51
    that's what she tried to do she she
  • 00:52:52
    didn't point out anything she tried to
  • 00:52:55
    be as feminine as possible because
  • 00:52:58
    that's what she wanted to be was a woman
  • 00:53:00
    and
  • 00:53:01
    um so with people like Ryan
  • 00:53:07
    who say that they're transitioning but
  • 00:53:10
    are not really making the effort really
  • 00:53:14
    bothered her she more commonly said
  • 00:53:18
    things like he's a disgusting human
  • 00:53:20
    being or the world would be better off
  • 00:53:22
    without
  • 00:53:23
    him so that's that's that's why uh the
  • 00:53:27
    fact that Ryan wanted to but still
  • 00:53:31
    looked and acted male um just really got
  • 00:53:35
    under her skin with this allegation in
  • 00:53:38
    mind investigators question why Sarah
  • 00:53:40
    confessed to the crime initially video
  • 00:53:42
    you are trying to protect Jen I guess
  • 00:53:44
    why try to protect her at that point in
  • 00:53:46
    time yeah that's what I thought about in
  • 00:53:49
    hindsight
  • 00:53:51
    um it it would have devastated me to
  • 00:53:56
    have to throw her under the bus and say
  • 00:53:59
    well she was the one who did it um I
  • 00:54:02
    guess there was there was a small part
  • 00:54:05
    of me that thought if I took the fall
  • 00:54:07
    for her she would be okay um but
  • 00:54:11
    thinking back now uh I should have known
  • 00:54:15
    with the look on her face that there was
  • 00:54:17
    no point trying to protect her she was
  • 00:54:20
    going to do it anyway with me or without
  • 00:54:21
    me as the interview wraps up Sarah
  • 00:54:24
    clarifies why she wanted to speak with
  • 00:54:26
    the investigators again I don't know if
  • 00:54:28
    the prosecution knows how much
  • 00:54:32
    detail um about naira
  • 00:54:36
    um so I'm I'm basically just hoping that
  • 00:54:42
    at the sentencing um essentially the
  • 00:54:44
    same thing that I told both of you just
  • 00:54:47
    condensed a little bit um will'll be
  • 00:54:49
    able to go on the record so that my side
  • 00:54:53
    of the story and what actually happened
  • 00:54:55
    will be out in the end Sarah's new
  • 00:54:58
    version of Ryan's death did little to
  • 00:55:00
    change her fate in January 2022 Sarah
  • 00:55:04
    Buzzard pled guilty and appeared in
  • 00:55:06
    Mercer County Common Police Court for
  • 00:55:08
    sentencing she was sentenced to life in
  • 00:55:10
    prison with the possibility of parole
  • 00:55:12
    after 30 years Warren Ryan's father had
  • 00:55:16
    the last word uh I just know now that um
  • 00:55:20
    you know no one can hurt him anymore and
  • 00:55:22
    no one can hurt him now
الوسوم
  • Ryan Zimmerman
  • Mercer County
  • dismemberment
  • Sarah Buzzard
  • Jen Whitaker
  • investigation
  • murder case
  • police confession
  • missing persons
  • true crime