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hey guys and welcome to petroped now
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look in the comments section of any of
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my electric car reviews and there's a
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common theme you will see comments in
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there a lot about batteries things like
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ah but the batteries will be dead in two
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or three years the efficiency is going
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to die just like my smartphone or you
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shouldn't charge an electric car up to
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100 or you shouldn't use fast charging
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it deteriorates the battery oh what
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about the long-term cost of electric
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motor maintenance how much is it going
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to cost to change out my battery pack
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every single video has comments like
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this so I wanted to bust some of those
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myths because there's a lot of
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misinformation out there a lot of
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misunderstanding so I've come all the
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way to Newtown in Wales back to Electric
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classic cars I haven't been here since
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we finished filming season two of
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vintage voltage so come back to see my
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old mate moggy and the team electric
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classic cars it's great to meet up with
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everybody but of all the people I know
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moggy's the guy that can answer those
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questions moggy is the guy that can bust
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those myths so let's head on inside out
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of this horrible wet weather and see if
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we can do a bit of myth busting shall we
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thank you
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nice it's good to be back good to see
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you again right now we were working out
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Orient it's been a good 18 months since
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I've been here don't ask me right I
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don't even remember what I had for
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breakfast let alone a lot has happened
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since we finished filming Series 2 of
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vintage voltage you guys go from
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strength to strength well we keep
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ourselves you've got some epic cars in
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here
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um cool cars most epic of them all being
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your funk up that is ridiculous oh yeah
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uh we still haven't named that yet death
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trap I want to name it but the family
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doesn't want to leave it Dev trap the
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coffin well yeah well a thousand kilos
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thousand horsepower four-wheel drive
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four-wheel drive
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1150 newton meters yeah you're mental I
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saw you trying to squeeze yourself into
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it down at Goodwood mate so a lot of
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people have tried to squeeze themselves
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into it they've got race licenses
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hello it's uh anybody over five foot 11
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people struggle in it and that's by
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Design
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now I've traveled all this way because I
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need your help go ahead I am fed up
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whenever I review an electric car
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comments about batteries stop reviewing
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electric cars well you know you've got
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to keep a balance and and a lot of the
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comments are I just want to kind of try
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and bust some myths oh yeah you must get
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the same thing on your channel before we
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can get going I'll put links to Electric
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classic cars YouTube channel and all the
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socials make sure you give them a follow
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if you want to know more about what
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they're doing in here you don't need to
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watch vintage voltage anymore you just
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tune into your YouTube channel yeah so
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let's bust some myths go on it and I've
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got I've got a list of things because
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this this guy is the guy I know who
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knows more about this stuff than anybody
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oh you're lining me up for a fall now I
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know I know and we're right so let's do
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batteries we have this is where you
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assemble your battery packs yeah this is
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actually quite privileged to be allowed
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in here well we're not allowed to touch
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anything well you say because all the
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terminals are uh covered yeah and this
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hasn't actually Gone live proper yet so
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uh you're safe but don't touch anything
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you can hurt yourself with this well
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this is a uh rear pack out of the
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Porsche 912 which is also 911 pack as
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well but without 912 over there this is
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the rear pack out that that's 27 odd
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kilowatt hours just in the rear wow and
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there's another one exactly the same
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goes in the front quite dinky it's quite
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dinky yeah so here's the thing so first
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question then go on in I buy a new
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electric car is there a prize if you're
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getting more right yeah definitely
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definitely first question for ten so buy
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a new electric car and the battery
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starts to lose
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um its efficiency it's effective it's a
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bit like your smartphone so after two
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years the battery is not going to be
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able to hold as much charge your range
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will decrease and after three or four
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years the battery is going to be
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knackered and you'll have to buy a new
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one and they cost lots of money okay so
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that is what's called battery
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degradation yep and uh yeah you're
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correct batteries
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um degrade if you like over their
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lifetime and their use if you like and
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the charge cycles and charge cycles yeah
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so that's what I mean by use yeah um but
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it's nowhere near as bad as you know
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media makes out bear in mind Media news
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now is driven by clicks and Views not
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facts really it's a shocker I know but
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literally if there's a bad news story
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about something they'll push it and then
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they'll get views from it and on it goes
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and goes viral happy new story about
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batteries hardly ever gets any views so
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that's the first thing to um understand
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is you know news and media Works off
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sensationalist stuff now ticks and Views
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not facts okay but coming back to uh
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battery degradation so what happens is
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over the lifetime of a battery the the
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ceiling if you like comes down so as you
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charge it and use it and charge it and
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use it it doesn't quite get to 100 as it
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used to do years ago but when I say it's
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not as bad as people make out it and
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people can you know Google this as well
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if they like go out and Google Tesla
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battery degradation for instance and
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you'll find that after around about 200
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000 miles you'll be down to around about
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90 percent of the original battery
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capacity that you had when you started
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200 000 miles yes which is more many
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people do 200 000 miles in their car I
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know that that is more than the average
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lifetime of most um internal combustion
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engine cars absolutely I think that's
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around about 180 but I think the most
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I've ever done on a car I did like 100
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000 miles in a in a petrol Commons but
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bear in mind
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the electric car is still working yeah
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all you've got now is a range that is 90
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of what you had when you started yeah
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now there are outliers there some that
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will be better than that some that'd be
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worse than that but I think where the
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some of the bad stories have happened
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bear in mind you know news items or pick
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the worst case scenario and then push
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that but the older generation cars that
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didn't have
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um thermal Management on their batteries
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and I'll come to that in a minute the
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older generation electric cars like
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first generation Nissan leafsarena Zoe's
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their battery degradation was worse yeah
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because they weren't keeping their
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battery temperatures in the happy
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Goldilocks zone yeah so what is thermal
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management well that is good question
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that's our next question is coming back
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to you when you mentioned about your
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iPhone battery for instance that yes
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this is knackered after like 18 months
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correct and did you know why because it
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gets hot because it gets hot now
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batteries like like humans like to be in
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a certain temperature zone anything
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between say you know zero and 50 degrees
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they're okay but really they're more
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happy around about the 20 degree Zone
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yeah okay so if we're warm and nice and
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comfortable batteries are too so that's
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what thermal management does is keeping
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the batteries within its happy Zone yeah
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and if you haven't got thermal
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Management in your batteries heating the
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batteries up above zero degrees or
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keeping it below say 40 degrees or
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whatever then the batteries degrade
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quicker okay and that's why the early
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generation Nissan leaves and things like
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that which didn't have thermal
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management degrade quicker in their
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battery life you know die quick if you
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like and that's why it comes a surprise
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to many people that electric cars have
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radiators
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yes the kind of yep yep for cooling and
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yeah so the reason why I was hesitant
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there's the radiator is not just for the
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batteries no that's also cooling down
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the motor and inverter yep so the motor
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and inverter and electric car is very
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efficient
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and when you're talking about
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inefficiencies for instance like a
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petrol car is around about say 20 to 30
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efficient that means that of the energy
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that you put in 80 to 70 of that energy
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that you put in is lost to heat
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um through the radiator exhaust noise
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Etc et cetera so there's a lot of energy
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that's turned into heat in a petrol car
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that's why you need to radiate it but
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even with a electric motor which is 90
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to 96 efficient that still means at ten
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to four percent of your energy putting
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in is turned into heat so you need a
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radiator to just keep that cool but it's
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like lukewarm yeah rather than boiling
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and scrolling hot but you still need a
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radiator for
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um batteries to keep them cool but you
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also need to heat them up in the winter
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time just to get them up to their most
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efficient if you like
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um now a lot of modern electric cars and
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anybody that's considering an electric
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car out there I thoroughly recommend you
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try to get one that's got a heat pump in
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yeah because as We Know heat pumps are
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even more efficient at you know taking
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energy and turning it into either heat
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or cooling for instance and that means
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that
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um they're taking less energy out of the
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battery pack to be able to keep that
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temperature of the battery pack in its
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Goldilocks zone so
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top tip to anybody considering AVS just
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ask the sales guy has this got a heat
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pump in yeah
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then that's a good thing so summarize
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then you're not saying these have an
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infinite life nope they are going to
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degrade over time their their efficiency
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is going to go down oh it's interesting
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I was saying to you off camera the I had
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a Lexus EV and they they kind of say
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after 10 years it's still going to be
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around about 90 of its
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um so so it's it's not it's not like I
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know they're in a similar technology to
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what you find in an iPhone or a
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smartphone the lithium-based yeah but
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don't think of it all that's just like a
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big iPhone battery because it's really
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not and another thing that people get
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mixed up with is Nica batteries are the
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90s yeah when you have those cordless
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drills and after a year they're like oh
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my God it's died in five minutes nicad
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is not the same as lithium-based
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batteries and the other interesting
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thing that's happening now is we're
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seeing more lfp batteries coming in
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which lfp stands for lithium ion not ion
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as in iom lithium iron phosphate and
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those batteries are more stable and
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they're they last longer so lfp
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batteries are even better so the
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technology is always improving yeah and
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as I say lfp batteries or cars with lfp
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batteries another step forward in my
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mind now in terms of when you come to
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replace one of these they aren't cheap
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things nope
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so I mean what kind of you know for a um
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I guess it depends on the size of the
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battery pack in a kind of first place
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yeah if you're buying it from a
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manufacturer it's a big amount of money
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but that's not something that the
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average person who buys electric cars
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gonna have to worry about for quite a
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while yeah and this is
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um uh something that runs into
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um warranty periods yeah so electric
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cars have quite a long warranty period
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why because there's nothing really that
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goes wrong on the motors really you know
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compared to all the thousands of moving
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parts and the petrol and diesel car for
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instance so they know they can warranty
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that drivetrain to the you know to the
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nth degree and the battery packs are
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actually lasting a lot longer than
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people initially thought back like 10
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years ago for instance or even seven
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years ago it lasted a lot longer so
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you're getting eight year warranty
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periods and things like that which is
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you know you wouldn't normally see that
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in you know petrol and Diesel land
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um but yeah after I don't know 300 000
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whatever miles at some point you're
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going to say hang on my battery is now
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at you know 60 70 what it used to be and
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if you're doing local drives that might
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still be okay but at some point you
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might say you know what this battery has
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had it I'm going to replace it and at
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that point then yes there's going to be
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a big chunk of change you're going to be
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forking out to change your battery why
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because it's the main part of the car
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yeah that's your main ticket it's like
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replacing a roof on your on your house
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yeah yeah at some point you're going to
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probably have to replace the roof and
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it's going to be very expensive but it's
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going to be a long way out yeah yeah
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yeah but refouching your cottage there
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you go yeah exactly you haven't got a
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thatched
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so yeah there is a big chunk of change
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that you'll need way into the distance
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yeah um to replace that battery pack
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um and you can either replace it with a
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good second hand one for instance if
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your your old car engine won't pop yeah
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would you go to Jaguar and get a brand
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spanking new Jaguar engine to put in it
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yeah probably not yeah you probably go
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to a specialist that does reconditioned
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engines or maybe even buy a second hand
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engine off eBay yeah you do the same
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with electric so you don't need to go
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back to you know Jaguar to buy a brand
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spanking new battery pack to put in your
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i-pace yeah so cool okay that's actually
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one more thing on that interestingly
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enough I had a conversation with a
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company that um when we get bad
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batteries in because we you know we
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repurpose some batteries like Tesla
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batteries for instance
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um and VW ID yeah four batteries just in
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that pack there and you know sometimes
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you get them in and through quality
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assurance tests that we do some are not
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usable so then you have to you get rid
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of them so we have a company where we
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send the batteries to that recycle
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batteries another interesting
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conversation with a guy um a couple of
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weeks ago and said how's it going
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not brilliant he said and you know why
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because they can't get any batteries
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they've got nothing to recycle that's
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how good batteries are you've seen it's
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like you know the downside of batteries
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being you know so good and Lasting so
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long is the fact that they're struggling
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to get second-hand batteries so yeah
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just a side note there that yes
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batteries can be recycled by the way
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yeah if anybody is going oh they can't
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be recycled oh yes they can yeah and
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there's companies out there screaming
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for them but yeah just an interesting
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conversation I had with that company uh
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last week so okay so then let's talk
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about how we kind of maybe help with the
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health of the battery in terms of best
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practice for charging because the next
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comment I get
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um is
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um oh if you if you use Rapid charges
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yeah it's a rapid DC charging that
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that's damaging to the battery you
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should never charge a battery up to 100
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that's damaging to the battery damaging
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is uh too aggressive word to use yeah
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okay
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um if you want you know bearing mind a
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manufacturer wouldn't allow you to do
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something that will damage the battery
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no okay so you know the battery
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Management systems on these battery
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packs will prevent you from damaging a
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battery yeah but there are ways the same
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um you know if you wanted to elongate
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the life cycle of an engine Don't
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redline it every time you change gear
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yeah it's things like that basically
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yeah so redlining it every time you
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change gear it's probably going to bring
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that life cycle out of your engine down
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again with a battery pack Don't redline
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it all the way to full every time you're
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charging it up because it'll bring the
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life cycle of that battery pack down so
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the usual thing that people say is keep
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it within the 20 80 range
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you know if you keep it within the 20 to
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80 range you will elongate the lifetime
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of that battery as much as it can be
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yeah and supercharging you know the
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reason why supercharging
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um can you know bring the lifetime of a
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battery down and and it's not like oh
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you're gonna have a lifetime no you're
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not yeah you'll just bring it down again
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the redlining an engine every time you
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change gear is a good example yeah
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um so that's what you did when you were
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yeah
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but at least I could rebuild my race
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engine yeah
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um but with supercharging what you're
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doing is you are putting a load of amps
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in really quickly and therefore you're
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stressing the battery out yeah not huge
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amount but stressing the battery out
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within its happy parameters but the
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temperature's going up yeah and anytime
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you get heat Cycles in anything in life
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engines Etc anytime you get heat cycles
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and stuff you're also you know reducing
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the the life cycle of that battery so if
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you really want to
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um you know get yeah many miles out of a
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battery pack charged up at home on a
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seven kilowatt charger keep it within 20
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and 80 and you'll find that your you
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know lifetime of that battery is way
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longer than you'd expect and most most
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home charges and or cars have the
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ability to set criteria as to what
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percentage you're going to charge the
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car oh yeah so you just you don't it's
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not like you have to guess and run out
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and unplug it at 80 you just tell the
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car don't charge Beyond 80 most cars
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have that feature as well and also a lot
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of smart Chargers yeah you know I I
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charge up into today good yeah yeah so I
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mean my home my home charger is an Omi
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Air charger and in that I can set it to
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only charge up
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um at night time on a cheap tariff so
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I'm charging up now last year it's five
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pence per kilowatt hour which is
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insanely cheap yeah and now I think it's
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gone up to an insanely massive 7.5 Pence
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per kilowatt hour so I'm charging up my
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car 7.5 Pence per kilowatt hour yeah and
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also in my power wall and my house has
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driven off batteries so all my house and
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cars charged up you know between that
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time which my electricity graph if you
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like is hilarious because there's
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there's nothing nothing and at midnight
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it goes
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at 4 30 in the morning goes do nothing
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and then it's off yeah it's the weirdest
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like graph you'll ever see so let's do
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the the 20 to 80 thing as well so when
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you're on a journey
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I wanted to not bust a myth but explain
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and I've explained this on videos before
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but you do it way better than I do that
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first 20 and the last 20 of the charge
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takes longer than the middle 60 correct
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yeah explain why and what the position
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when I'm driving home tonight
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yeah the quickest way for me to get home
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if I need to charge is to just charge 20
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to 80 get on my way then get to the next
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20 to 80 get on my rather than sitting
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there till I get to 100 so so the best
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way to describe it right so imagine a
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barrel of water that you've got to fill
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up yeah okay now as it gets to the top
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okay and you've got like a a fireman
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hose to fill it up yeah okay but you're
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not allowed to spill any water over the
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top when it gets to full so you'll start
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off with like loads of Like Water full
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thing and then as it gets to about 80
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you're getting up to the top now bear in
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mind you're not allowed to spill it
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which means in voltage world you don't
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want it to go over a certain voltage
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yeah in the cells so you'll say oh hang
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on turn it down turn it down a bit we're
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getting to the top turn it down oh again
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really stop now turn it down a bit more
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turn it there so that means that up to
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80 it's really quick and an 80 to 100 it
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starts to get slower slower slower
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slower so when you're supercharging
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don't sit there thinking oh I'm gonna
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wait till it's 100 because it'll get a
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80 really quickly and then it will start
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to slow down once you get to 80 85 get
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on the way again yeah
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let's go you only want to get to 100 the
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night before
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when you're just about to do a long
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journey the next day stick it on the
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home charger set to 100 and by the time
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you wake up it'll be good to go but
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never get it to 100 on the way up
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yesterday I sat on a DC charger and went
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to 100 one because it only took less
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than an hour and that's how long I took
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add me food and also I knew I was coming
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here and we might want to I wasn't gonna
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be able to charge last night so there
00:19:27
were reasons why I went to 100 so
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otherwise yeah
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and you know people say don't go do it
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don't go to zero percent which again you
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know just for the reasons I've already
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explained it's never a good idea to go
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down to zero percent but you can no
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problem at all right well I've done it
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many times I've gone below zero percent
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say a lot of cars I did a thing with
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Toyota uh earlier this year and there
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when it says zero it's still got ten
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percent just like fuel gauge still a
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bunch of bunch of stuff in there when we
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were in college all those years ago
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right yeah mate when it really could
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fill your car up for 10 quid oh God yeah
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I used to fill my car up um yeah for
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literally about 10 quid and drive all
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the way to Wales yeah you know on 10
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quid it's insane
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um but anyway back back when things were
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black and white we were in University by
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the way we were at University together
00:20:16
if you've not heard that story but
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anyway I won't bore you with it this
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video is way longer than I was planning
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it to be but the last very quick point
00:20:23
is the final thing you get is uh oh you
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know what about the maintenance what
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about Motors when they when they fail
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they're going to be loads of money to
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replace that I mean one of the benefits
00:20:36
of converting classic cars to Electric
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is
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you can use them as daily drivers
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because there's no maintenance
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reliability is like 100 maintenance is
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literally zero but that's the thing with
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electric motors there is so little
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maintenance and that's a massive saving
00:20:52
yeah if I had a BMW or a Mercedes or
00:20:55
whatever and for those three is I think
00:20:56
how much money I would have had to have
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spent on servicing it yeah yeah yeah
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yeah
00:21:01
um so yeah there's what two moving parts
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or very few moving Parts an electric
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motor
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compared to a internal combustion engine
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that probably has a thousand moving
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Parts with lubrication filters to change
00:21:12
belts to chains oil changes you know
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heat Cycles all that's going on electric
00:21:17
motor
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you know
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electromagnetism bit of spinny Spin and
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two bearings
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that's a good description electron
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magnet a bit of spinny spin a bit of
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spinning
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there's a um a stage that comes in every
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kit that we ship out and we've got three
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mini kits going out over there two to
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the states one to Australia yeah and
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there's always the spinach moment
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it's like Popeye yeah we got spinach yay
00:21:46
that's when you spin the motor up for
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the first time and everything works
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amazing amazing mate thank you for
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busting this that's right Smith all day
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for you but I'm pretty sure that
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everybody would have switched off no no
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honestly it's just it's you can go back
00:22:00
in the comments and go that's not right
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but and I'm sure there will still be
00:22:03
people who who kind of go oh you're not
00:22:05
right there well but it's just it's just
00:22:08
back as a coverall yeah what I normally
00:22:10
say to anybody is don't listen to people
00:22:12
with opinion listen to people with
00:22:14
experience yeah so anybody out there
00:22:16
that says oh this that and the other
00:22:18
about electric cars most of them don't
00:22:20
have an electric car yeah so if
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anybody's considering driving electric
00:22:24
car don't listen to everybody that has
00:22:26
an opinion go and speak to people that
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have an electric Gun there's enough
00:22:30
people out there that have electric cars
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yeah so yeah talk to people with
00:22:34
experience rather than opinion that's my
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that's what I drove to Wales mate
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because you're the most experienced
00:22:38
person I know there you go and I always
00:22:40
have an opinion oh yeah oh anyway
00:22:45
big thanks to moggy for giving me his
00:22:47
time um head over to Electric classic
00:22:49
cars give them a sub on YouTube because
00:22:51
they do some ridiculous things here
00:22:53
there are some unbelief I can see a
00:22:55
Jensen Interceptor I could see your
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ridiculous car over there yeah this is
00:22:59
why I'm in this weekend nobody can see
00:23:01
what we're pointing that now I'll put
00:23:02
some b-roll over that camper van the
00:23:04
campervan four-wheel drive Synchro and
00:23:06
taking that out this weekend Tesla Rossa
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over there there's two there's another
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one over there there's your yeah Mega so
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