Chairman Powell speaks after Fed hikes interest rates by 0.75% to fight inflation — 9/21/2022
الملخص
TLDRThe Federal Reserve is focused on bringing inflation down to its 2% target, having raised interest rates by 0.75% to a range of 3-3.25%. The U.S. economy has slowed, with modest growth in spending and production, while the labor market remains tight. Inflation is currently above the target, with projections indicating a gradual decrease over the next few years. The Fed aims to balance employment and price stability, recognizing the economic pain that may result from necessary rate hikes. The committee will continue to assess economic data to determine future rate adjustments.
الوجبات الجاهزة
- 📉 The Fed raised interest rates by 0.75% to combat inflation.
- 🎯 The inflation target is set at 2%.
- 📊 GDP growth is projected at 0.2% this year.
- 👷♂️ The labor market remains tight with low unemployment.
- 📈 Inflation is expected to decrease gradually over the next few years.
- ⚖️ The Fed aims to balance employment and price stability.
- 💼 Economic pain may be necessary to restore price stability.
- 📅 Future rate adjustments will depend on incoming economic data.
- 🌍 Global economic conditions are considered in policy decisions.
- 🔍 The Fed is committed to achieving its inflation target.
الجدول الزمني
- 00:00:00 - 00:05:00
The speaker emphasizes the commitment to reducing inflation to a 2% target, highlighting the importance of price stability for the economy and labor market. The Federal Reserve has raised interest rates by 0.75% and plans to continue increasing rates to achieve this goal, while also reducing the size of its balance sheet.
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The U.S. economy has slowed down from the high growth rates of 2021, with modest growth in spending and production. Consumer spending growth has decreased, and the housing sector has weakened due to higher mortgage rates. Economic projections indicate low GDP growth for the current and next year, while the labor market remains tight with low unemployment and high job vacancies.
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Despite a slowdown in growth, the labor market is still strong, with significant job gains. However, the labor force participation rate has not changed much. The Federal Open Market Committee (FOMC) expects labor market conditions to balance over time, which may ease wage and price pressures. Unemployment is projected to rise to 4.4% by the end of next year.
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Inflation remains above the 2% target, with significant price increases in various sectors. The FOMC projects total PCE inflation to be 5.4% this year, decreasing to 2% by 2025. While long-term inflation expectations are stable, there are risks of entrenched inflation if high rates persist.
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The Fed is committed to achieving maximum employment and price stability, acknowledging the hardships caused by high inflation. The target range for the federal funds rate has been raised to 3-3.25%, and the Fed will continue to monitor inflation trends to determine future rate increases.
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The Fed's approach involves assessing economic data to decide when to slow down rate increases. The focus remains on achieving a restrictive policy stance to bring inflation down to the target, with a need for below-trend growth and a balanced labor market.
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The Fed acknowledges the challenges of achieving a soft landing while raising rates, with a modest increase in unemployment expected. The current economic situation is influenced by unique factors, including supply shocks and high job vacancies, which may allow for a less severe increase in unemployment than in past cycles.
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The Fed is aware of the global economic context and the potential risks of simultaneous tightening by central banks worldwide. Ongoing communication with other central banks helps inform their decisions, but the Fed's primary focus remains on domestic objectives.
الخريطة الذهنية
فيديو أسئلة وأجوبة
What is the current interest rate set by the Federal Reserve?
The current interest rate is set in a range of 3% to 3.25%.
What is the Federal Reserve's inflation target?
The Federal Reserve's inflation target is 2%.
What are the projections for GDP growth?
The median projection for real GDP growth is 0.2% for this year and 1.2% for next year.
How does the Fed plan to address high inflation?
The Fed plans to raise interest rates and maintain a restrictive policy stance until inflation is back to the 2% target.
What is the expected unemployment rate by the end of next year?
The median projection for the unemployment rate is expected to rise to 4.4% by the end of next year.
What factors are contributing to current inflation?
Current inflation is influenced by supply chain disruptions, increased energy prices due to geopolitical events, and high consumer demand.
How does the Fed view the current labor market?
The labor market remains tight, with job vacancies high and unemployment near a 50-year low.
What is the Fed's approach to monetary policy?
The Fed's approach is to adjust interest rates based on incoming economic data and the evolving outlook.
What is the expected trend for inflation in the coming years?
Inflation is projected to decrease to 5.4% this year, 2.8% next year, and reach 2% by 2025.
What is the Fed's stance on economic pain due to rate hikes?
The Fed acknowledges that economic pain is necessary to restore price stability and is committed to achieving its inflation target.
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- 00:01:02thank you
- 00:01:21good afternoon
- 00:01:23my colleagues and I are strongly
- 00:01:25committed to Bringing inflation back
- 00:01:27down to our two percent goal
- 00:01:29we have both the tools we need and the
- 00:01:31resolve that it will take to restore
- 00:01:33price stability on behalf of American
- 00:01:35families and businesses
- 00:01:37price stability is the responsibility of
- 00:01:39the Federal Reserve and serves as the
- 00:01:41Bedrock of our economy
- 00:01:43without price stability the economy does
- 00:01:45not work for anyone
- 00:01:46in particular without price stability we
- 00:01:49will not achieve a sustained period of
- 00:01:51strong labor market conditions that
- 00:01:52benefit all
- 00:01:55today the fomc raised its policy
- 00:01:58interest rate by three quarters of a
- 00:01:59percentage point
- 00:02:00and we anticipate that ongoing increases
- 00:02:03will be appropriate
- 00:02:05we are moving our policy stance
- 00:02:06purposefully to a level that will be
- 00:02:08sufficiently restrictive to return
- 00:02:10inflation to two percent
- 00:02:13in addition We are continuing the
- 00:02:15process of significantly reducing the
- 00:02:17size of our balance sheet
- 00:02:19I will have more to say about today's
- 00:02:21monetary policy actions after briefly
- 00:02:23reviewing economic developments
- 00:02:27the U.S economy has slowed from the
- 00:02:30historically high growth rates of 2021
- 00:02:32which reflected the reopening of the
- 00:02:34economy following the pandemic recession
- 00:02:37recent indicators point to modest growth
- 00:02:40of spending and production
- 00:02:42growth in consumer spending has slowed
- 00:02:44from last year's rapid Pace in part
- 00:02:46reflecting lower real disposable income
- 00:02:49and Tighter Financial conditions
- 00:02:51activity in the housing sector sector
- 00:02:53has weakened significantly in large part
- 00:02:56reflecting higher mortgage rates
- 00:02:59higher interest rates and slower output
- 00:03:01growth also appear to be weighing on
- 00:03:03business fixed investment while weaker
- 00:03:05economic growth abroad is restraining
- 00:03:07exports
- 00:03:09as shown in our summary of economic
- 00:03:11projections since June fomc participants
- 00:03:14have marked down their projections for
- 00:03:16economic activity with the median
- 00:03:18projection for real GDP growth standing
- 00:03:20at just 0.2 percent this year and 1.2
- 00:03:24percent next year well below the median
- 00:03:26estimate of the longer run normal growth
- 00:03:28rate
- 00:03:31despite the slowdown in growth the labor
- 00:03:33market has remained extremely tight with
- 00:03:35the unemployment rate near a 50-year low
- 00:03:36job vacancies near historical highs and
- 00:03:39wage growth elevated
- 00:03:42job gains have been robust with employee
- 00:03:44employment Rising by an average of 378
- 00:03:47000 jobs per month over the last three
- 00:03:49months
- 00:03:51the labor market continues to be out of
- 00:03:53balance with demand for workers
- 00:03:55substantially exceeding the supply of
- 00:03:57available workers
- 00:03:59the labor force participation rate
- 00:04:01showed a welcome uptick in August but as
- 00:04:04little changed since the beginning of
- 00:04:05the year
- 00:04:07fomc participants expect supply and
- 00:04:09demand conditions in the labor market to
- 00:04:11come into better balance over time
- 00:04:13easing the upward pressure on wages and
- 00:04:15prices
- 00:04:17the median projection in the SCP for the
- 00:04:19unemployment rate Rises to 4.4 percent
- 00:04:21at the end of next year a half
- 00:04:23percentage Point higher than in the June
- 00:04:25projections
- 00:04:26over the next three years the median
- 00:04:29unemployment rate runs above the median
- 00:04:31estimate of its longer run normal level
- 00:04:35inflation remains well above our two
- 00:04:37percent longer run goal over the 12
- 00:04:40months ending in July total pce Prices
- 00:04:42rose 6.3 percent
- 00:04:44excluding the volatile food and energy
- 00:04:46categories core pce prices Rose 4.6
- 00:04:49percent
- 00:04:51in August the 12-month change in
- 00:04:53consumer in the Consumer Price Index was
- 00:04:558.3 percent and the change in the core
- 00:04:57CPI was 6.3 percent
- 00:05:01price pressures remain evident across a
- 00:05:03broad range of goods and services
- 00:05:06although gasoline prices have turned
- 00:05:08down in recent months they remain well
- 00:05:10above year earlier levels in part
- 00:05:12reflecting Russia's war against Ukraine
- 00:05:14which has boosted prices for energy and
- 00:05:17food and has created additional upward
- 00:05:18pressure on inflation
- 00:05:21the median projection in the SCP for
- 00:05:24total pce inflation is 5.4 percent this
- 00:05:27year and Falls to 2.8 percent next year
- 00:05:302.3 percent in 2024 and 2 in 2025.
- 00:05:36participants continue to see risks to
- 00:05:39inflation as weighted to the upside
- 00:05:42despite elevated inflation longer-term
- 00:05:45inflation expectations appear to remain
- 00:05:47well anchored as reflected in a broad
- 00:05:49range of surveys of households
- 00:05:51businesses and forecasters as well as
- 00:05:54measures from financial markets
- 00:05:56but that is not grounds for complacency
- 00:05:59the longer the current bound of bout of
- 00:06:01high inflation continues the greater the
- 00:06:03chance that expectations of higher
- 00:06:05inflation will become entrenched
- 00:06:08the fed's monetary policy actions are
- 00:06:10Guided by our mandate to promote maximum
- 00:06:12employment and stable prices for the
- 00:06:14American people
- 00:06:16my colleagues and I are acutely aware
- 00:06:18that high inflation imposes significant
- 00:06:20hardship as it erodes purchasing power
- 00:06:23especially for those least able to meet
- 00:06:25the higher costs of Essentials like food
- 00:06:27housing and transportation
- 00:06:30we are highly attentive to the risks
- 00:06:32that high inflation poses to both sides
- 00:06:34of our mandate and we are strongly
- 00:06:36committed to returning inflation to our
- 00:06:38two percent objective
- 00:06:40at today's meeting the committee raised
- 00:06:42the target range for the federal funds
- 00:06:43rate by three quarters of a percentage
- 00:06:45Point bringing the target range to three
- 00:06:47to three and a quarter percent
- 00:06:49and we are continuing the process of
- 00:06:51significantly reducing the size of our
- 00:06:53balance sheet which plays an important
- 00:06:55role in firming The Stance of monetary
- 00:06:57policy
- 00:06:59overcoming months we will be looking for
- 00:07:01compelling evidence that inflation is
- 00:07:03moving down consistent with inflation
- 00:07:04returning to two percent
- 00:07:07we anticipate that ongoing increases in
- 00:07:11the target range for the federal funds
- 00:07:12rate will be appropriate the pace of
- 00:07:14those increases will continue to depend
- 00:07:16on the incoming data and the evolving
- 00:07:19outlook for the economy
- 00:07:21with today's action we have raised
- 00:07:22interest rates by three percentage
- 00:07:24points this year
- 00:07:26at some point as The Stance of monetary
- 00:07:28policy tightens further it will become
- 00:07:30appropriate to slow the pace of
- 00:07:32increases while we assess how our
- 00:07:34cumulative policy adjustments are
- 00:07:36affecting the economy and inflation
- 00:07:38we will continue to make our decisions
- 00:07:40meeting by meeting and communicate our
- 00:07:43thinking as clearly as possible
- 00:07:46restoring price stability will likely
- 00:07:48require maintaining a restrictive policy
- 00:07:50stance for some time
- 00:07:52the historical record cautions strongly
- 00:07:54against prematurely loosening policy
- 00:07:58as shown in the SCP the median
- 00:08:00projection for the appropriate level of
- 00:08:02the federal funds rate is 4.4 percent at
- 00:08:05the end of this year one percentage
- 00:08:07Point higher than projected in June
- 00:08:10the median projection Rises to 4.6
- 00:08:12percent at the end of next year and
- 00:08:14declines 2.9 percent by the end of 2025.
- 00:08:17still above the median estimate of its
- 00:08:20longer run value
- 00:08:21of course these projections do not
- 00:08:23represent a committee decision or plan
- 00:08:25and no one knows with any certainty
- 00:08:27where the economy will be a year or more
- 00:08:29from now
- 00:08:31we are taking forceful and Rapid steps
- 00:08:33to moderate demand so that it comes into
- 00:08:35better alignment with Supply
- 00:08:37our overarching focus is using our tools
- 00:08:40to bring inflation back down to our two
- 00:08:42percent goal and to keep longer term
- 00:08:44inflation expectations well anchored
- 00:08:47reducing inflation is likely to require
- 00:08:49a sustained period of below Trend growth
- 00:08:52and there will very likely be some
- 00:08:54softening of labor market conditions
- 00:08:57restoring price stability is essential
- 00:08:59to step to set the stage for achieving
- 00:09:01maximum employment and stable prices
- 00:09:03over the longer run
- 00:09:06we will keep at it until we're confident
- 00:09:08the job is done
- 00:09:10to conclude we understand that our
- 00:09:12actions affect communities families and
- 00:09:14businesses across the country everything
- 00:09:16we do is in service to our public
- 00:09:18mission
- 00:09:19we at the FED will do everything we can
- 00:09:21to achieve our maximum employment and
- 00:09:23price stability goals
- 00:09:25thank you and I look forward to your
- 00:09:26questions
- 00:09:33hi chair pal thank you for taking our
- 00:09:34questions Gina Smiley from The New York
- 00:09:36Times I wonder if you could give us a
- 00:09:38little detail around how you'll know
- 00:09:40when to slow down these rate increases
- 00:09:42and how you'll eventually know when to
- 00:09:44stop
- 00:09:47so I will answer your I will answer your
- 00:09:50question directly but I want to start
- 00:09:51here today by saying that my main
- 00:09:53message has not changed at all since
- 00:09:55Jackson Hole uh the fomc is strongly
- 00:09:59resolved to bring inflation down to two
- 00:10:00percent
- 00:10:01and we will keep at it until the job is
- 00:10:03done
- 00:10:05so
- 00:10:06um the way we're thinking about this is
- 00:10:09um
- 00:10:10the overarching focus of the committee
- 00:10:12is getting inflation back down to two
- 00:10:13percent uh to accomplish that we think
- 00:10:16we'll need to do two things in
- 00:10:18particular to achieve a period of growth
- 00:10:20below Trend and also some softening in
- 00:10:22labor market conditions to foster a
- 00:10:24better balance between demand and Supply
- 00:10:25in the labor market
- 00:10:27so on the first uh committee's forecasts
- 00:10:30and those of most outside forecasters do
- 00:10:32show growth running below its longer run
- 00:10:35potential this year and next year on the
- 00:10:37second though so far there's only modest
- 00:10:39evidence that the labor market is
- 00:10:42cooling off
- 00:10:43job openings are down a bit as you know
- 00:10:46quits are off their all-time highs
- 00:10:48there's some signs that some wage
- 00:10:50measures may be flattening out but not
- 00:10:52moving up payroll gains have moderated
- 00:10:53but not much
- 00:10:55and in light of the
- 00:10:57high inflation we're seeing we think
- 00:10:59we'll need to and in light of what I
- 00:11:01just said we we think that we'll need to
- 00:11:03bring our our funds rate to a
- 00:11:07restrictive level and to keep it there
- 00:11:08for some time so
- 00:11:10um what will we be looking at I guess is
- 00:11:12your question so we'll be looking at a
- 00:11:14few things first we'll want to see
- 00:11:16growth continuing to run below Trend
- 00:11:17we'll want to see movements in the labor
- 00:11:20market showing a return to a better
- 00:11:21balance between supply and demand
- 00:11:23and ultimately we'll want to see clear
- 00:11:25evidence that inflation is moving back
- 00:11:27down to two percent
- 00:11:30so that's what we'll be looking for
- 00:11:33um
- 00:11:33in terms of
- 00:11:36of reducing rates I think we'd want to
- 00:11:38be very confident that inflation is
- 00:11:40moving back down uh to two to two
- 00:11:42percent
- 00:11:43before we would consider that
- 00:11:50thank you Mr chairman Steve leesman CNBC
- 00:11:53can you talk about how you factor in uh
- 00:11:56the variable lags on inflation and the
- 00:11:59extent to which um
- 00:12:02the outlook for rates should be seen as
- 00:12:05linear in the sense that you keep
- 00:12:06raising rates or can you envision a time
- 00:12:09when there's a pause to uh kind of look
- 00:12:11at what has been wrought in the economy
- 00:12:13from the rate increases thank you
- 00:12:16sure
- 00:12:18so
- 00:12:19um of course monetary policy does does
- 00:12:22famously work with long and variable
- 00:12:24lags the way I think of it is our policy
- 00:12:27decisions affect financial conditions
- 00:12:29immediately in fact Financial conditions
- 00:12:31have usually been affected well before
- 00:12:33we actually announce our decisions then
- 00:12:35changes in financial conditions begin to
- 00:12:37affect
- 00:12:38act economic activity fairly quickly
- 00:12:41within a few months but it's likely to
- 00:12:43take some time
- 00:12:45to see the full full effects of changing
- 00:12:48Financial conditions on inflation so we
- 00:12:51are we are very much mindful for that
- 00:12:52and that's why I noted in my in my
- 00:12:55opening remarks that at some point as
- 00:12:57The Stance of policy tightens further it
- 00:12:59will become appropriate to slow the pace
- 00:13:00of rate hikes while we assess how our
- 00:13:02cumulative policy adjustments are
- 00:13:04affecting the economy and inflation
- 00:13:06so that's how we think about that your
- 00:13:08second question sorry was
- 00:13:11pausing is it linear that we keep
- 00:13:13raising rights or is there oh I'm sorry
- 00:13:16I should know better than to not talk
- 00:13:17with my microphone um I know better than
- 00:13:20to answer your second question
- 00:13:22oh there you go
- 00:13:24um is it linear do you keep raising
- 00:13:26razor is there a pause that you could
- 00:13:28Envision where you kind of figure out uh
- 00:13:30what what has happened to the economy
- 00:13:32and give uh time to catch up in the real
- 00:13:35economy the rate increase time to catch
- 00:13:36up with the real economy thank you so so
- 00:13:38I think I think it's it's very hard to
- 00:13:40say with a precise certainty the way
- 00:13:43this is going to unfold as I mentioned
- 00:13:46what we think we need to do and should
- 00:13:48do is to move our policy rate to a
- 00:13:50restrictive level that's restrictive
- 00:13:51enough to bring inflation down to two
- 00:13:54percent where we have confidence of that
- 00:13:56and what you see in the SCP numbers is
- 00:13:58people's views as of as of today as of
- 00:14:01this meeting as to the kind of levels
- 00:14:04that will be appropriate now those those
- 00:14:05will those will evolve over time
- 00:14:08and I think we'll we'll
- 00:14:10um we'll just have to to see how that
- 00:14:12goes I I there is a possibility
- 00:14:13certainly that we would go to go to a
- 00:14:15certain level that we we're confident in
- 00:14:17and and stay there for a Time
- 00:14:20um but we're not at that level clearly
- 00:14:22today we're you know we're just uh we've
- 00:14:25just moved I think probably into the
- 00:14:27very the very lowest level of what might
- 00:14:29be restrictive and and certainly in my
- 00:14:31view in the view of the committee
- 00:14:33there's uh there's a ways to go
- 00:14:42Siegel from Washington Post thank you
- 00:14:44for taking our questions the projections
- 00:14:46show the unemployment rate rising to 4.4
- 00:14:49percent next year and historically that
- 00:14:52kind of rise in the unemployment rate
- 00:14:54would typically bring a recession with
- 00:14:55it should we interpret that to mean no
- 00:14:58soft landing and is that kind of Rise
- 00:15:00necessary to get inflation down
- 00:15:02right so um so you're right in in the in
- 00:15:05the SCP there's a what I would
- 00:15:07characterize as a relatively modest
- 00:15:09increase in the unemployment rate from a
- 00:15:10historical perspective given the
- 00:15:12expected to decline in inflation now why
- 00:15:14is that so really it is that is um what
- 00:15:19we generally expect uh because we see
- 00:15:21the current situation as
- 00:15:23um outside of historical experience in a
- 00:15:26number of ways and I'll mention a couple
- 00:15:28of those first and you know these but
- 00:15:30first job openings are incredibly High
- 00:15:32relative to the number of people looking
- 00:15:34for work uh it's plausible I'll say that
- 00:15:38job openings could come down
- 00:15:39significantly and they need to without
- 00:15:41as much of an increase in unemployment
- 00:15:44as has happened in earlier historical
- 00:15:46episodes so that's one thing in addition
- 00:15:48in this cycle longer run inflation
- 00:15:51expectations are have generally been
- 00:15:53fairly well anchored uh and I've as I've
- 00:15:56said there's no no basis for complacency
- 00:15:58there but to the extent that uh
- 00:16:01continues to be the case that should
- 00:16:02make it easier to restore price
- 00:16:04stability and I guess the third thing I
- 00:16:06would point to that's different this
- 00:16:07time is that part of this inflation is
- 00:16:10caused by this series of Supply shocks
- 00:16:12that we've had beginning with the
- 00:16:13pandemic and railing with really with
- 00:16:15the reopening of the economy and more
- 00:16:17recently Amplified and added to by
- 00:16:19Russia's invasion of Ukraine have all
- 00:16:22contributed to the sharp increase in
- 00:16:23inflation so these are these are the
- 00:16:26kinds of events that are not really seen
- 00:16:27in in Prior business cycles and in
- 00:16:30principle if those things start to get
- 00:16:33better and we do see some evidence of
- 00:16:35the beginnings of that it's not much
- 00:16:37more than that but it's good to see that
- 00:16:39for example commodity prices look like
- 00:16:41they may have peaked for now supply
- 00:16:43chain disruptions are beginning to
- 00:16:44resolve those developments if sustained
- 00:16:47could help ease the pressures on
- 00:16:48inflation so
- 00:16:50let me just say how much these factors
- 00:16:53will turn out to really matter in in
- 00:16:55this in this sequence of events it
- 00:16:57remains to be seen we have always
- 00:16:59understood that restoring price
- 00:17:01stability while achieving a relatively
- 00:17:03modest decline a rather increase in
- 00:17:05unemployment and a soft Landing would be
- 00:17:08would be very challenging and and we
- 00:17:10don't know no one knows whether this
- 00:17:12process will lead to a recession or if
- 00:17:14so how significant that recession would
- 00:17:16be that's going to depend on how quickly
- 00:17:19wage and price inflation inflation
- 00:17:21pressures come down whether expectations
- 00:17:23remain anchored and whether you know
- 00:17:26also do we get more labor Supply which
- 00:17:28would help as well in addition the
- 00:17:30chances of a soft lending Landing are
- 00:17:32likely to diminish to the extent that
- 00:17:33policy needs to be more restrictive
- 00:17:36or restrictive for longer nonetheless
- 00:17:38we're committed to getting inflation
- 00:17:40back down to two percent because we
- 00:17:42think that a failure to restore price
- 00:17:44stability would mean far greater pain
- 00:17:46later on
- 00:17:49our vacancies still at the top of your
- 00:17:51list in terms of understanding the labor
- 00:17:53market and how much room there is there
- 00:17:55yes vacancies are still almost two to
- 00:17:58one ratio to unemployed people that's a
- 00:18:02that and quits are are really very good
- 00:18:05ways to look at how tight the labor
- 00:18:07market is and how different it is from
- 00:18:08other Cycles where which where the
- 00:18:11generally the unemployment rate itself
- 00:18:13is the is the single best indicator we
- 00:18:14think those things have for quite a time
- 00:18:16now uh really added value in terms of
- 00:18:19understanding where the labor market is
- 00:18:22okay
- 00:18:27Nick tamaros of the Wall Street Journal
- 00:18:29uh you said not too long ago uh in
- 00:18:31describing the policy destination
- 00:18:33there's still a way to go but I I
- 00:18:37imagine you have to have some idea about
- 00:18:39how you're thinking about your
- 00:18:40destination whether it's a stopping
- 00:18:42point or a pausing point and so I was
- 00:18:44wondering if you could discuss how you
- 00:18:47are thinking about uh as the data come
- 00:18:50in where that destination is how it's
- 00:18:53moving up if inflation doesn't perform
- 00:18:55as you expect do you want to have a
- 00:18:58policy rate it's above the underlying
- 00:19:01inflation rate for example and do you
- 00:19:04have an estimate for where you think the
- 00:19:05underlying inflation rate might be in
- 00:19:08the economy right now
- 00:19:10well so
- 00:19:12again we
- 00:19:13we believe that we need to
- 00:19:16raise our policy stance overall to a
- 00:19:19level that is restrictive and by that I
- 00:19:21mean is is meaningfully put putting mean
- 00:19:25meaningful downward pressure on
- 00:19:27inflation that's what we that's what we
- 00:19:29need to
- 00:19:30see in in The Stance of policy we also
- 00:19:33know that there are long and variable
- 00:19:35lags particularly as they relate to
- 00:19:36inflation so it's a challenging
- 00:19:38assessment so what do you look at you
- 00:19:40look at broader Financial conditions as
- 00:19:42you know are you look you look at where
- 00:19:44rates are real and nominal in some cases
- 00:19:46you look at credit spreads you look at
- 00:19:48at Financial conditions indexes we also
- 00:19:51I would think and you see this in the
- 00:19:54this is something we talked about today
- 00:19:55in the meeting and talk about in all of
- 00:19:57our meetings and you see this I think in
- 00:19:58in the committee forecast you want to be
- 00:20:00at a place where real rates are positive
- 00:20:02across the entire yield curve and I I
- 00:20:05think that would be the case if you look
- 00:20:06at the the numbers that were that we're
- 00:20:08writing down and think about
- 00:20:11um uh you measure those against some
- 00:20:14sort of forward-looking assessment of
- 00:20:16inflation inflation expectations I think
- 00:20:18you would see at that time you'd see
- 00:20:20positive real rates across the which
- 00:20:23across the yield curve and that that is
- 00:20:25also an important consideration
- 00:20:29power
- 00:20:31hi uh Howard Schneider with Reuters
- 00:20:34thanks for uh the opportunity I I just
- 00:20:37want to be clear on the on the steps
- 00:20:40you say it's meeting by meeting but it
- 00:20:42sure looks like we're going 75 50 25
- 00:20:46um is 75 uh next month the Baseline
- 00:20:50so
- 00:20:51we we make one decision per meeting and
- 00:20:54the meeting decision we made today was
- 00:20:56to raise the federal funds rate by by
- 00:20:5875.
- 00:21:00um you're right that a uh you know a
- 00:21:04the median for uh for the year-end
- 00:21:07suggests another 125 basis points and
- 00:21:10rate increases but there's also there's
- 00:21:13a you know there's another fairly large
- 00:21:14group that saw 100 basis points addition
- 00:21:17to where we are today so that would be
- 00:21:2025 basis points less so you know we're
- 00:21:22going to make that decision at the
- 00:21:23meeting we had we didn't make that
- 00:21:24decision today we didn't vote on that
- 00:21:27um I would say that you know we're
- 00:21:28committed to getting to a restrictive
- 00:21:30level of um uh for the federal funds
- 00:21:34rate and getting there pretty quickly
- 00:21:36and uh that's what we're thinking about
- 00:21:38so just as a follow-up to that I'm
- 00:21:41wondering about this sort of risk
- 00:21:42management considerations here given
- 00:21:43there's some discussion now of of
- 00:21:45overdoing it what's the incentive to
- 00:21:48continue front loading right now
- 00:21:50um is it a lack of progress on inflation
- 00:21:53seen in the CPI reports or is it a
- 00:21:56motivation to get as much done while the
- 00:21:59job market is still as strong as it is
- 00:22:01so what we've seen is inflation has
- 00:22:04we've our expectation has been that we
- 00:22:07would begin to see inflation come down
- 00:22:08largely because of of supply-side
- 00:22:10healing by now we would have thought
- 00:22:12that we would have seen some of that we
- 00:22:14haven't we have seen some supply-side
- 00:22:16healing but inflation has not really
- 00:22:18come down if you look at at core pce
- 00:22:20inflation which is you know a good
- 00:22:22measure of where inflation is running
- 00:22:24now if you look at it on a 3 6 and 12
- 00:22:27month trailing annualized basis you'll
- 00:22:30see that that inflation is at 4.8
- 00:22:33percent 4.5 percent and 4.8 percent so
- 00:22:36that's those that's a pretty good
- 00:22:38summary of where we are with inflation
- 00:22:39and that's not where we expected or
- 00:22:41wanted to be so what that tells us is
- 00:22:44that we need to continue and we can keep
- 00:22:47doing these uh and we did today do
- 00:22:49another large increase as we approach
- 00:22:52the level that we think we need to get
- 00:22:54to and we're still discovering what that
- 00:22:55level is but people are writing that
- 00:22:57down in their SCP where they think
- 00:23:00policy needs to be so that that's how
- 00:23:02that's how we're thinking about it
- 00:23:04let's go to Colby
- 00:23:09thank you Colby Smith for the financial
- 00:23:11times uh chair pal how should we
- 00:23:13interpret the fact that cornflation is
- 00:23:15still not forecast in the SCP to be back
- 00:23:17to Target in 2025 and yet the Dot Plot
- 00:23:21projects Cuts as early as 2024. and does
- 00:23:25that mean there's a level of inflation
- 00:23:28um above the two percent Target that the
- 00:23:30FED is willing to tolerate
- 00:23:35so I guess core is at 2.1 in 2025 and in
- 00:23:40the median and and and headline is at
- 00:23:422.0 so that's pretty close I mean we we
- 00:23:45write down our forecasts and we we
- 00:23:48figure out what the median is and we
- 00:23:50publish it so it's not um I mean I would
- 00:23:53say that if you know if if if actually
- 00:23:56if the economy followed this path this
- 00:23:57would be a pretty good outcome but
- 00:23:59you're right it is a tenth higher than
- 00:24:00two percent
- 00:24:04inflation is becoming more entrenched
- 00:24:07perhaps each month than why forego the
- 00:24:10more aggressive 100 basis point increase
- 00:24:13today and does that risk having to do
- 00:24:15more later on yeah so we um as we as we
- 00:24:18said you know at the last press
- 00:24:19conference and in between that one and
- 00:24:22this one we said that we would make our
- 00:24:24decision based on the overall data
- 00:24:26coming in so if you remember we we got a
- 00:24:28we got a surprisingly low reading in
- 00:24:30July and then a surprising High
- 00:24:32surprisingly High reading for August so
- 00:24:34I think you have to you can't really you
- 00:24:37never want to overreact too much to any
- 00:24:38one data point so if you look if you
- 00:24:40look at them together and as I just
- 00:24:42mentioned if you really really look at
- 00:24:43this year's inflation 3 6 and 12-month
- 00:24:46trailing you see inflation is running
- 00:24:48too high it's running 4.5 or above you
- 00:24:52don't need to know much more than that
- 00:24:53if that's the one thing you know you
- 00:24:55know that this committee is committed to
- 00:24:57getting to a you know meaningfully
- 00:24:59restrictive stance of policy and staying
- 00:25:01there until until we feel confident that
- 00:25:04inflation is coming down that's how we
- 00:25:06that's how we think about it
- 00:25:13hi Victoria Guido with Politico I
- 00:25:16talk about the balance sheet you all
- 00:25:18have left open the possibility that you
- 00:25:21might sell mortgage-backed Securities
- 00:25:22but we've seen significant slowing in
- 00:25:25the housing market mortgage rates have
- 00:25:26gone up significantly and I'm just
- 00:25:27wondering whether conditions there
- 00:25:30might affect your plans for for how
- 00:25:33quickly you have the runoff on the MBS
- 00:25:35side
- 00:25:35so we what we said as you know was that
- 00:25:38um we would consider that uh once
- 00:25:41balance sheet uh
- 00:25:43runoff is well underway I would say it's
- 00:25:45not something we're considering right
- 00:25:46now and not something I expect to be
- 00:25:48considering uh in the near term it's
- 00:25:50just uh it's something I think we will
- 00:25:52turn to but that time the time for
- 00:25:54turning to it
- 00:25:55has not come and is not close well and
- 00:25:58what
- 00:26:01I think a number of things might affect
- 00:26:03that decision but the main thing is
- 00:26:04we're not considering that decision and
- 00:26:05I don't expect that we will anytime soon
- 00:26:09meal
- 00:26:11I think Neil Irwin with axios a number
- 00:26:15of commentators have uh come to the view
- 00:26:17and including over at the World Bank
- 00:26:19that simultaneous Global tightening
- 00:26:21around the world is uh creates a risk of
- 00:26:23a global recession that's worse than is
- 00:26:24necessary to bring inflation down how do
- 00:26:26you see that risk how do you think of
- 00:26:28coordination with your fellow Central
- 00:26:30bankers and is there is there much risk
- 00:26:33of overdoing it on a global level
- 00:26:36um so we
- 00:26:38um actually my colleagues and I a number
- 00:26:39of my FMC colleagues and I just got back
- 00:26:41from one of our
- 00:26:43frequent trips to Basel Switzerland to
- 00:26:46meet with other senior Central Bank
- 00:26:48officials from around the world we are
- 00:26:50in pretty regular contact and we
- 00:26:51exchange of course we all serve a
- 00:26:53domestic mandate domestic objectives in
- 00:26:55our case the Dual mandate maximum
- 00:26:56employment price stability but we
- 00:26:58regularly discuss uh
- 00:27:00uh what we're seeing in terms of our own
- 00:27:03economy and international spillovers and
- 00:27:04it's it's a very ongoing constant kind
- 00:27:07of a process so we are very aware of
- 00:27:11what's going on in in other economies
- 00:27:13around the world and what that means for
- 00:27:14us and vice versa our the forecast that
- 00:27:18we that we put together that our staff
- 00:27:20puts together and that we put together
- 00:27:21on our own always take all of that try
- 00:27:24to take all that into account I mean I
- 00:27:25can't say that we do it perfectly but
- 00:27:27it's not it's not as if we don't think
- 00:27:29about you know the the policy decisions
- 00:27:31monetary policy and otherwise the
- 00:27:33economic developments that are taking
- 00:27:35place in major economies that can have
- 00:27:37an effect on the US economy that is very
- 00:27:39much baked into our our own forecast and
- 00:27:42our own understanding of of you know of
- 00:27:44the US economy as best we can it won't
- 00:27:46be perfect
- 00:27:48so you know I I don't see that it's hard
- 00:27:51to talk about collaboration
- 00:27:53in a world where people have very
- 00:27:55different uh levels of interest rates if
- 00:27:57you remember there were coordinated cuts
- 00:27:59and raises and things like that at
- 00:28:00various times and but really really
- 00:28:02we're all we're in very different
- 00:28:03situations but I I will tell you that
- 00:28:06our our contact is more or less ongoing
- 00:28:09and it's not coordination but there's a
- 00:28:11lot of information sharing and we all I
- 00:28:13think are informed by what by what other
- 00:28:16important economies and contact minors
- 00:28:18that are important to the United States
- 00:28:19are doing
- 00:28:22uh Craig
- 00:28:26Torres from Bloomberg uh chair pal you
- 00:28:29talked about some ways the higher
- 00:28:31interest rates are affecting the economy
- 00:28:33but we've also seen a resilient labor
- 00:28:36market with durable consumption uh
- 00:28:39strong corporate profits
- 00:28:41and I'm wondering what your story is on
- 00:28:44the resilience of the economy after all
- 00:28:46you and your colleagues said well we
- 00:28:48started tightening in March when we were
- 00:28:49talking about interest rates in the
- 00:28:51future and indeed treasury rates moved
- 00:28:54up so we should have had a lot of
- 00:28:56tightening
- 00:28:57um taking effect
- 00:28:59why is the economy in your view
- 00:29:02so resilient and does it mean that we
- 00:29:04might need a possibly higher terminal
- 00:29:06rate
- 00:29:07you're right of course the labor market
- 00:29:09in particular has been has been very
- 00:29:11strong but there are the you know the
- 00:29:14the sectors of the economy that are most
- 00:29:17interest rate Senate of are sensitive
- 00:29:19are certainly uh showing the effects of
- 00:29:22our tightening and of course the obvious
- 00:29:23example is housing where you see
- 00:29:26declining activity and of all different
- 00:29:28kinds and and housing price increases
- 00:29:31moving down so we're having an effect on
- 00:29:35on interest sensitive spending uh I
- 00:29:38think through through exchange rates
- 00:29:41were having an effect on on exports and
- 00:29:43imports
- 00:29:44I think um so all of that's happening
- 00:29:49but you're right it's just and we've
- 00:29:51we've we've said this you know this is a
- 00:29:52this is a strong robust economy
- 00:29:55um people have savings on their balance
- 00:29:57sheet from the period when they couldn't
- 00:29:59spend and where they were getting
- 00:30:01government transfers they're still very
- 00:30:02significant savings out there although
- 00:30:04not as much at the lower end of the
- 00:30:07income Spectrum but still some savings
- 00:30:09out there to support growth the the the
- 00:30:12states are very flush with cash so
- 00:30:15there's a good reason to think that this
- 00:30:17this will continue to be a reasonably
- 00:30:19strong economy now the data the data
- 00:30:21sort of are showing that
- 00:30:24growth is is is going to be below Trend
- 00:30:27this year we think of trend as being
- 00:30:28about 1.8 percent in or in that range
- 00:30:32um we we we're forecasting growth well
- 00:30:34below that and most forecasters are but
- 00:30:37you're right there is a there's there's
- 00:30:38certainly a possibility that that that
- 00:30:40growth can be stronger than that and you
- 00:30:43know that's a good thing because because
- 00:30:44that means the economy will be more
- 00:30:46resistant to uh you know to a
- 00:30:49significant downturn
- 00:30:51um you know but of course we are focused
- 00:30:53on the thing I started with it which is
- 00:30:55getting inflation back down to two
- 00:30:57percent
- 00:30:58um we we can't fail to do that if we I
- 00:31:02mean that's if we were to fail to do
- 00:31:04that that would be the thing that would
- 00:31:05be most painful for the people that we
- 00:31:07serve so for now that has to be our our
- 00:31:11overarching focus and you see that I
- 00:31:14think in the uh in the SCP in in the
- 00:31:17levels of rates that we'll be moving to
- 00:31:19reasonably quickly uh assuming things
- 00:31:22turn out roughly in line with the SCP
- 00:31:24so that's how we think about it
- 00:31:31thank you Mr chairman in a world of
- 00:31:33euphemisms that we live in here with uh
- 00:31:36below Trend growth and modest increase
- 00:31:38in unemployment I'm wondering if I could
- 00:31:39ask you a couple of direct questions for
- 00:31:41the American people uh do the odds now
- 00:31:44favor given where you are and where
- 00:31:45you're going with interest rates favor a
- 00:31:47recession
- 00:31:49um 4.4 unemployment is about 1.3 million
- 00:31:53jobs is that acceptable job loss and
- 00:31:55then given that the data you look at is
- 00:31:58backward looking and the lags in your
- 00:32:00policy are forward-looking and you don't
- 00:32:02know what they are how will you know or
- 00:32:05will you know if you've gone too far
- 00:32:08so I I don't um I don't know what the
- 00:32:12odds are I think that that there's a
- 00:32:14very high likelihood that we'll have uh
- 00:32:17a period of
- 00:32:19what I've mentioned is below trend of
- 00:32:21growth by which I mean much lower growth
- 00:32:23and we're seeing that now so the median
- 00:32:25forecast I think this year for among my
- 00:32:28colleagues and me was 0.2 percent growth
- 00:32:31so that's that's very slow growth and
- 00:32:32and then below Trend next year I think
- 00:32:34the medium was 1.2 also well below so
- 00:32:37that's a slower uh it's a it's a very
- 00:32:40slow level of growth and it could give
- 00:32:42rise to increases in unemployment but I
- 00:32:45think that's so that is something that
- 00:32:46that we think we need to have and we
- 00:32:48think we need to have softer labor
- 00:32:50market conditions as well
- 00:32:52um you know we're never going to say
- 00:32:54that there that there are too many
- 00:32:55people working but the real point is
- 00:32:58this
- 00:32:59um inflation what we hear from people
- 00:33:01when we meet with them is that that they
- 00:33:04really are suffering from inflation and
- 00:33:06if we want to set ourselves up really
- 00:33:08really light the way to another period
- 00:33:10of a very strong labor market we have
- 00:33:13got to get inflation behind us I wish
- 00:33:16there were a painless way to do that
- 00:33:18there isn't so what we need to do is get
- 00:33:21rates up to to the point where we're
- 00:33:22putting meaningful downward pressure on
- 00:33:25inflation
- 00:33:26and that's what we're that's what we're
- 00:33:28doing and um we we don't certainly don't
- 00:33:30don't hope we we certainly haven't given
- 00:33:33up the idea that we can have a
- 00:33:35relatively modest increase in in
- 00:33:37unemployment nonetheless we need to
- 00:33:39complete this task
- 00:33:43if you've gone too far
- 00:33:46it's hard to hard to hypothetically deal
- 00:33:49with that question I mean our again our
- 00:33:51our really tight Focus now continues to
- 00:33:53be ongoing rate increases to get the
- 00:33:55policy rate up up where it needs to be
- 00:33:58and as I said you can look at the look
- 00:34:00at this SCP as today's estimate of where
- 00:34:04we think those rates would be of course
- 00:34:05they will evolve over time
- 00:34:07Chris we're Gabriel
- 00:34:10thank you Christopher I wanted to follow
- 00:34:13up with what you uh just mentioned about
- 00:34:15the labor market
- 00:34:17you said several times that to have the
- 00:34:19labor market we want we need price
- 00:34:21stability
- 00:34:23I suggested maybe there isn't a
- 00:34:24trade-off in the long run but in the
- 00:34:26short run there is a lot of concern as
- 00:34:28people have been expressing here about
- 00:34:30higher unemployment as a result of these
- 00:34:32uh rate hikes or as a result of the rate
- 00:34:34of hikes so can you explain though uh
- 00:34:37what about high inflation now
- 00:34:40threatens the job market I mean you seem
- 00:34:41to suggest then
- 00:34:43inflation High inflation will you know
- 00:34:47will eventually lead to a weaker job
- 00:34:49market so can you spell that out a
- 00:34:50little more for the general public and
- 00:34:52how that would work so for starters
- 00:34:53people are seeing their wage increases
- 00:34:55their their wage increases eaten up by
- 00:34:58inflation
- 00:34:59so if you're if you your family is one
- 00:35:01where you spend most of your paycheck
- 00:35:04every paycheck cycle on gas food
- 00:35:07Transportation clothing basics of life
- 00:35:10and prices go up the way they've been
- 00:35:12going up you're in trouble right away
- 00:35:14you don't have a cushion and this is
- 00:35:17very painful for people at the lower end
- 00:35:19of the income and wealth Spectrum so
- 00:35:21that's what we're hearing from people is
- 00:35:22you know it very much that inflation is
- 00:35:25really hurting so how do we get rid of
- 00:35:27inflation and as I mentioned it would be
- 00:35:30nice if there were you know a way to
- 00:35:32just wish it away but there isn't
- 00:35:34um we have to get supply and demand back
- 00:35:36into alignment and the way we do that is
- 00:35:39by slowing the economy hopefully we do
- 00:35:41that by slowing the economy and we see
- 00:35:44some softening in labor market
- 00:35:46conditions and we see a big contribution
- 00:35:49from supply side uh you know
- 00:35:51improvements and things like that but
- 00:35:53none of that is guaranteed in any case
- 00:35:55we our job is to deliver price stability
- 00:35:58and I think you can think of price
- 00:35:59stability as an asset that just delivers
- 00:36:02large benefits to society over a long
- 00:36:05period of time we really saw that for a
- 00:36:08long time the United States had two
- 00:36:10percent inflation didn't move around
- 00:36:12much and that was enormously beneficial
- 00:36:14to the public that we that we serve and
- 00:36:17we have to get back to that and and and
- 00:36:19keep it for another long period of time
- 00:36:21to to pull back from the task of doing
- 00:36:24that is you're just you're just
- 00:36:25postponing the record shows that if you
- 00:36:28postpone that that delay is only likely
- 00:36:31to lead to more pain so
- 00:36:34um you know I think we're moving
- 00:36:36to to do what we need to do and do our
- 00:36:38jobs and and uh and that's what you see
- 00:36:41us doing
- 00:36:46thank you for taking the question Mr
- 00:36:47chairman Edward Lawrence for Fox
- 00:36:48Business
- 00:36:49um so you had said that Americans and
- 00:36:51businesses need to feel some economic
- 00:36:52pain as we go forward how long from here
- 00:36:54should Americans be prepared for that
- 00:36:57economic pain
- 00:36:58how long I mean it it really depends on
- 00:37:01how long it takes for wages and and more
- 00:37:03than that price is to to come down for
- 00:37:05for inflation to come down and you you
- 00:37:07so you what you see in our in our
- 00:37:09projections today is that uh inflation
- 00:37:13moves down uh you know significantly
- 00:37:16over the course of next year and then
- 00:37:18more the next year after that and you
- 00:37:20know I think I think um once you're on
- 00:37:23that path that's that's a good thing and
- 00:37:25things will start to feel better to
- 00:37:27people they'll feel lower inflation
- 00:37:28they'll feel the economy is improving
- 00:37:30and also if our if our projections are
- 00:37:32are close to right you'll see you will
- 00:37:35see that you know that the costs in
- 00:37:37unemployment are they're meaningful and
- 00:37:40they're certainly very meaningful to the
- 00:37:42people who lose their jobs and we talk
- 00:37:43about that in our meetings
- 00:37:45um quite a lot but at the same time we'd
- 00:37:48be setting the economy up for another
- 00:37:49long period this this era has been noted
- 00:37:53for very long expansions we've had three
- 00:37:55of the four longest in measured history
- 00:37:56since we got
- 00:37:58inflation under control and that's
- 00:38:00that's not an accident so when inflation
- 00:38:02is low and stable you can have these 9
- 00:38:0410 11 10-year anyway
- 00:38:08expansions and you saw you can see what
- 00:38:11we saw in
- 00:38:122018-19 and 20 which was very low on
- 00:38:16employment that the biggest wage gains
- 00:38:18going to people at the low end of the
- 00:38:19spectrum the smallest racial gaps that
- 00:38:22we've seen in since we started keeping
- 00:38:24track of that so we want to get back to
- 00:38:26that but to get there we're going to
- 00:38:28have to get supply and demand back in
- 00:38:31alignment and that's going to take tight
- 00:38:33uh
- 00:38:34you know tight monetary policy for a
- 00:38:36period of time period of time
- 00:38:38what is that economic pain in your mind
- 00:38:40is it job losses is it the higher
- 00:38:42interest rates on credit cards what is
- 00:38:44that economic pain so it's all of those
- 00:38:45things you know higher interest rates
- 00:38:47slower growth and softening labor market
- 00:38:50are are all painful for the public that
- 00:38:53we serve but they're not as painful as
- 00:38:56failing to to restore price stability
- 00:38:59and then having to come back and do it
- 00:39:02uh you know down the road again and
- 00:39:05doing at a time when actually now people
- 00:39:07have really come to expect
- 00:39:09uh you know in high inflation if if the
- 00:39:12if the concept of high inflation becomes
- 00:39:15entrenched in people's economic thinking
- 00:39:17about their decisions then then sort of
- 00:39:20getting back to price stability the cost
- 00:39:22the cost of getting back to price
- 00:39:23stability just Rises and so we want to
- 00:39:26avoid that we want to we want to act
- 00:39:28aggressively now and get this job done
- 00:39:30and keep at it until it's done
- 00:39:36thank you chairman Paul Nicole good kind
- 00:39:38scene on business
- 00:39:40um existing home sales have fallen for
- 00:39:42seven months straight mortgage rates are
- 00:39:44at their highest level since 2008
- 00:39:46um yet mortgage demand increase this
- 00:39:48week and housing prices are still
- 00:39:49elevated now at the end of your June
- 00:39:51press conference you mentioned plans to
- 00:39:53reset the housing market I was wondering
- 00:39:56if you could elaborate on what you mean
- 00:39:57when you say reset and uh what you think
- 00:40:00it will take to actually get there
- 00:40:04so we when I say reset I'm not looking
- 00:40:06at a particular specific you know set of
- 00:40:08data or anything what I'm really saying
- 00:40:10is that we've we've had it we've had a
- 00:40:12time of of a red hot housing market all
- 00:40:15over the country where you know famously
- 00:40:17houses were selling to
- 00:40:19the first buyer at 10 above the the ask
- 00:40:22before even seeing the house that kind
- 00:40:24of thing so
- 00:40:26um there was a big imbalance between
- 00:40:27supply and demand housing prices were
- 00:40:29going up at an unsustainably fast level
- 00:40:31so the deceleration housing prices that
- 00:40:34we're seeing should help bring sort of
- 00:40:36prices more closely in line with rents
- 00:40:38and other housing market fundamentals
- 00:40:41um and you know that's a good thing for
- 00:40:43the longer term what we need is supply
- 00:40:45and demand to get better aligned so that
- 00:40:48housing prices go up at a reasonable
- 00:40:49level at a reasonable pace and that
- 00:40:53people can afford houses again and I
- 00:40:55think we so we probably in the housing
- 00:40:56market have to go through a correction
- 00:40:58to get back to that place there's also
- 00:41:00they're also longer run issues though
- 00:41:02with the housing market as you know
- 00:41:03we're we're you know uh
- 00:41:06it's it's difficult to find Lots now
- 00:41:10close close enough to cities and things
- 00:41:12like that so Builders are having a hard
- 00:41:13time getting zoning and lots and workers
- 00:41:15and materials and things like that but
- 00:41:17from a sort of business cycle standpoint
- 00:41:19this difficult correction should put the
- 00:41:23housing market back into better better
- 00:41:25balance
- 00:41:30doctor made up such a large part of this
- 00:41:32hot CPI report that we saw do you think
- 00:41:35that there is a lag and that we will see
- 00:41:37that come down in the coming months or
- 00:41:38do you think that there's still this
- 00:41:39imbalance that needs to be addressed
- 00:41:42you know I think that shelter shelter
- 00:41:45inflation is going to remain high for
- 00:41:46some time you know we're looking for it
- 00:41:48to come down but it's not exactly clear
- 00:41:50when that will happen
- 00:41:52um so
- 00:41:53it may take some time so I think that I
- 00:41:56think you know hope for the best plan
- 00:41:57for the worst so I think on shelter
- 00:41:59inflation you just got to assume that
- 00:42:01it's going to remain pretty high for a
- 00:42:03while
- 00:42:04okay we'll go to Gene for the last
- 00:42:06question
- 00:42:08hi Gene Young with market news
- 00:42:11um you've talked about the need to get
- 00:42:12real rates into positive territory and
- 00:42:15you said earlier that policy is just
- 00:42:17moving into that territory now so I'm
- 00:42:21curious um how restrictive is rates at
- 00:42:244.6 percent expected is is that expected
- 00:42:28to be next year how restrictive
- 00:42:31so I think if you look you know when we
- 00:42:34get to if we let's assume we do get to
- 00:42:36that level
- 00:42:37um which I think is likely uh you know
- 00:42:41you what you're going to do is you're
- 00:42:42going to adjust that for some forward
- 00:42:44measure looking measure of of uh of um
- 00:42:48of inflation and you know that could be
- 00:42:51you pick your measure it could be you
- 00:42:53know there there are all kinds of
- 00:42:54different things you could pick and you
- 00:42:55get but what you'll get is a positive
- 00:42:57number in all cases you will get forward
- 00:42:59inflation expectations in the short term
- 00:43:01I think that are going to be
- 00:43:03assuming that we're doing our jobs
- 00:43:04appropriately that will be significant
- 00:43:06so you'll have a positive of federal
- 00:43:08funds rate
- 00:43:10at that point by which could be one
- 00:43:12percent or so but I mean I don't know
- 00:43:14exactly what it would be but it would be
- 00:43:15significantly positive when we get to
- 00:43:17that level and let me say you know we've
- 00:43:19written down what we think is is a
- 00:43:23plausible path for the federal funds
- 00:43:25rate the path that we actually execute
- 00:43:27will be enough it will be enough to
- 00:43:29restore price stability so this is this
- 00:43:31is something that as you can see they've
- 00:43:33they've moved up and we're going to
- 00:43:35continue to watch incoming data and the
- 00:43:38evolving Outlook and and ask ourselves
- 00:43:39where our whether our policy is in the
- 00:43:42right place as we go
- 00:43:44thank you very much
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