Grammy-Nominated Artist Saweetie Reveals How She Went From Broke to Millionaire | Networth & Chill

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TLDRIn this episode of 'Net Worth and Chill', host Vivian and guest Sidi, a Grammy-nominated artist, discuss their experiences with money, ambition, and personal growth. Sidi shares her childhood memories of money, influenced by her hardworking young parents, and how it shaped her hustle and ambition. They explore the challenges of managing finances as creatives, the importance of having a support system, and the lessons learned from past financial mistakes. Sidi emphasizes the need for boundaries with friends regarding money and her desire to create luxury affordable homes for college students. The conversation highlights the difference in mindset between those with and without money, and Sidi's ultimate goal of creating art that she loves while building her own brand and investing in real estate.

الوجبات الجاهزة

  • 💪 Sidi's ambition stems from her hardworking parents.
  • 💰 Overspending was a major financial mistake for Sidi.
  • 🏡 Sidi aims to create luxury affordable homes for students.
  • 🤝 A strong support system is crucial for success.
  • 📈 Investing in oneself is the best investment.
  • 🛑 Setting boundaries with friends regarding money is important.
  • 🎨 Sidi wants to create art that she loves.
  • 💡 The mindset of those with money is about investment and creativity.
  • 📊 Sidi is focused on building her own brand.
  • 🌟 Sidi's ultimate goal is happiness in her art.

الجدول الزمني

  • 00:00:00 - 00:05:00

    The speaker reflects on their upbringing with young parents who worked hard, instilling ambition and hustle in them. They discuss their various income streams beyond music, including starting their own brand and interest in real estate, specifically creating affordable luxury homes for college students.

  • 00:05:00 - 00:10:00

    The host introduces the episode's theme of managing money as a creative or freelancer, highlighting the challenges of irregular income. They welcome a guest, a Grammy-nominated artist and entrepreneur, who shares her journey of turning creative talents into a successful career.

  • 00:10:00 - 00:15:00

    The guest shares a humorous story about being broke in college, where she would dispute charges for meals she didn't like. They bond over their experiences of financial struggles during their early years and how they learned to navigate money management.

  • 00:15:00 - 00:20:00

    The conversation shifts to childhood experiences with money, where the guest recalls selling candy at school and the hustle that began early on. They discuss the influence of their cultural background on their family's work ethic and views on money.

  • 00:20:00 - 00:25:00

    The guest talks about their academic journey, including attending San Diego State and transferring to USC, where they received financial aid but still had to take out loans due to rising tuition costs. They share their determination to pursue music despite job offers that could provide financial security.

  • 00:25:00 - 00:30:00

    The guest reflects on their confidence in becoming a musician, stemming from a prophetic moment in church. They discuss the challenges of being a struggling artist in LA and the importance of setting deadlines for themselves to stay motivated.

  • 00:30:00 - 00:35:00

    As the guest's career takes off, they share their experiences with money management, including the mistakes of overspending and the importance of having a good business team to help manage finances. They emphasize the need for boundaries when it comes to giving money to friends and family.

  • 00:35:00 - 00:40:00

    The guest expresses their desire to invest in real estate, particularly in creating comfortable living spaces for college students. They discuss the importance of having a supportive community and the impact of their upbringing on their current financial mindset.

  • 00:40:00 - 00:47:47

    The episode concludes with the guest sharing their future goals, including a focus on personal happiness in their art and the importance of maintaining a healthy relationship with money. They reflect on the lessons learned from their financial journey and the significance of having a strong support system.

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فيديو أسئلة وأجوبة

  • What was Sidi's biggest money mistake?

    Shopping too much, which she viewed as a form of therapy.

  • How does Sidi manage her money now?

    She relies on a good business team to help manage her finances.

  • What kind of homes does Sidi want to create in real estate?

    Luxury affordable homes for college students.

  • What advice does Sidi give to aspiring artists?

    Having a strong support system is crucial.

  • What is Sidi's ultimate goal with her music?

    To create art that she loves and is happy with.

  • What does Sidi think about the difference in mindset between people with money and those without?

    People with money think about how to invest and use it creatively, while those without often focus on scarcity.

  • What does Sidi want to do in the future?

    She aims to build her own brand and invest in real estate.

  • What is Sidi's 'F*** you' number?

    She hasn't calculated it yet but acknowledges it would be a big number.

  • What does Sidi prioritize in her spending now?

    She focuses on investments and being frugal.

  • What does Sidi want to achieve with her media team?

    She wants to reestablish her media presence and create her own media company.

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التمرير التلقائي:
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    What was money like in your family? I
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    grew up with really young parents. I saw
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    two people who I looked up to working
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    their ass off. So I think that's where I
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    get a lot of like my ambition, my
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    hustle. What are all of the different
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    ways that you are making money? Going
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    outside of music. So like starting
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    businesses I would have got a brand deal
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    for, but now I'm trying to create like
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    my own brand. Other investments in your
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    life. Talk to me. I'm interested in real
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    estate. You are. I'd like to create
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    luxury affordable homes for college
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    students. Over the course of your
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    lifetime, what do you think is like the
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    biggest money mistake you made? Shopping
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    too much. Really, it's just the
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    shopping. It was like therapy for me. It
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    was a toxic way of of me nurturing my
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    unhealed feelings about something. I
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    think this has been one of the most
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    difficult conversations for me. Really,
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    I really enjoyed it. But when you've
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    made so much money and you haven't had
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    money before, sometimes you're just so
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    happy that you made money, so you don't
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    really plan your money. Now I'm thinking
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    different. So when you were asking me
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    some of these questions, in the back of
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    my mind, I'm thinking, you know, I
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    should be thinking about that.
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    [Music]
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    What's up, rich friends? Welcome back to
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    another episode of Net Worth and Chill
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    with me, your host, Vivian 2, aka your
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    rich BFF. So, today we're going to talk
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    about a topic that has been hotly
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    requested. How do you manage your money
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    when your career doesn't necessarily fit
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    into this clean, neat little box of, oh,
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    I get a 401k and I have health benefits?
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    What if you are a creative, a
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    freelancer? You're trying to build
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    something new, something that none of
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    your friends are doing, but you don't
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    necessarily know when that next paycheck
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    is coming in. How do you manage your
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    money in a smart way? How do you use it
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    to build your business? How do you use
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    it to grow and get bigger and bigger and
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    better and better? So, I have someone
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    very, very exciting to join me today.
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    She is a Grammy nominated recording
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    artist and entrepreneur who's mastered
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    the art of managing wealth in the
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    entertainment industry, turning her
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    creative talents into a thriving empire.
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    She's been on shows like SNL, Bair, and
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    BMF. She's a fellow Forbes 30 under 30
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    girly. Everyone, please welcome Sidi.
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    Hey guys. And I'm a college girly like
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    you. That's right. Mhm. College
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    educated, smart, sexy, and talented. Oh,
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    you think I'm sexy? You know I do.
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    I told you that when you walked in.
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    Yeah, he looks good, too. Thank you.
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    Thank you. Okay, so before we actually
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    get into our conversation, I have a fun
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    little icebreaker
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    after I tell after you share yours.
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    Okay. What is the brokeest you've ever
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    been?
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    The brokeest. I Oh my gosh, this story
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    makes me like laugh every time. So when
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    I was in college, if I didn't like like
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    the food that I was that I like got at a
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    restaurant, I would file a claim. No,
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    no, no, no, no, no.
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    I was listen. So imagine somebody
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    calling to go file a claim and then
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    they're asking me how much was this
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    meal? When I'm saying like $16 and $20,
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    they're like, "Oh, like $200 or like
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    16?" I'm like, "No, it's $16."
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    They literally I could hear them holding
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    in their lap. And it's just like, "Girl,
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    you got it. It's only like $16." But
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    that's how like like you would dispute
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    the charge if the food was bad. You
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    would dispute the charge if the food was
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    bad. Okay. But like what was like an
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    example of like a bad dish you got? Um
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    if I didn't like how it taste,
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    you literally just you didn't like it.
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    If I didn't like it. But I'm a foodie,
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    so if I don't like it, like and I like a
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    lot of things, you know? Yeah. Um, so
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    yeah, but you could literally hear them
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    holding in their laugh like I can't
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    believe this woman is calling me over
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    16, 17, $18, $20. You know what though?
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    Like I feel like it was money well
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    spent. Yeah. So running my money back.
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    You might even be able to get that money
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    back. But you know what? You can't get
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    the stomach space back. And that makes
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    me so angry when I eat something and I
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    don't like it. You're a real foodie. You
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    can't get that stomach space. You can't
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    get that stomach space back. Yeah. But
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    I'll tell you, the brokeest I've been, I
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    was an intern um over the summer and I
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    was going for a full-time job. And I was
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    like, you know what? I'm going to save
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    all of this money and that way when I
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    get back to senior year of college, I'm
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    going to be a baller. I'm going to be
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    going out. We're going to be at the
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    club. I'm going to get drinks at the
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    bar. So every night I would have a
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    handful of pistachios for dinner and
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    then just go to sleep because when I
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    would get back to the office I knew that
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    there was food there that I could eat
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    for free. A smart woman smart and
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    healthy. I ate a lot of pistachios that
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    summer. Pistachios and uh you know what
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    worked out okay. I got that full-time
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    job and then I went back senior year and
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    you better believe I was at the club
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    every weekend. Really? Yeah. You know,
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    but also I was not spending my own money
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    at the club cuz I was like let me sit at
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    your table.
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    I shouldn't have to spend on this. I'm a
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    cute girl. Um, okay. But let's talk a
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    little bit about your childhood. Let's
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    roll the tape back. Tell me about what
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    it was like growing up. Um, what was
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    money like in your family? Um, I feel
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    like money was a month-to-month thing.
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    Um, I grew up with really young parents.
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    My mom and my dad had me at a really
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    young age. So, I experienced them
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    working like 9 to5 or like graveyard
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    shifts. Yeah. So, for me, money was
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    something that they worked really hard
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    for. And um in hindsight, I didn't like
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    it because I wasn't able to spend a lot
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    of time with my parents. But I think the
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    positive from that was I saw two people
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    who I looked up to working their ass off
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    to, you know, make a living. So, I think
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    that's where I get a lot of like my
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    ambition, my hustle, and like um how I
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    work. So, I mean, there was there's some
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    pros and cons to that, but it was
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    definitely a month-to-month thing of of
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    them trying to figure it out. What was
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    your earliest money memory? Like, did
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    you get an allowance or like what
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    happened when you started to realize you
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    needed money to buy stuff you wanted?
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    Um, my earliest memory was doing bake
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    sales after church. Oh, okay. At first
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    it was bake sales. That didn't really
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    work though. So, then I started selling
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    candy at school. I was like the candy
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    girl and that's when like AIM was
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    popping. Did you have a aim? Yeah. And I
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    had that really really embarrassing away
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    message and I was hoping that one boy
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    that I had a crush on would message me.
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    Right. So on my on my like away message
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    I'd be like hit me if you need some
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    candy and like I'll leave like the class
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    we can go to the bathroom and do a
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    little exchange.
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    But yeah I was like the I was the girl
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    who like sold candy at school. Yeah.
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    Uhhuh. I can relate to that. I was
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    selling uh chapsticks. Chapsticks. Yeah.
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    How did that sell? So, basically, it was
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    a situation where I I was like a really
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    big nerd. Like, I loved, you know,
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    beginning of the year, you would get
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    school supplies. I would have like the
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    smelly highlighters that like smelled
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    like fruits and stuff. And you would
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    have a desk buddy. And I remember my
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    teacher being like, "You have to share
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    with your buddy if they don't have a
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    highlighter." And I sat next to this
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    girl who she would have lost her head if
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    it wasn't screwed on. Like, she just by
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    the third week of school, she had no
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    supplies. And so, I'd always lend her.
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    What grade were you in? It's like third
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    grade. I always like, sorry to cut you
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    off, but I always wonder what happened
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    to those kind of kids. I don't know, you
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    know? Yeah. Like how like how were they
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    able to figure it out? How did you
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    figure it out? Yeah.
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    Sorry. My my mind just went there.
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    That's real. That's real. Um and I lent
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    her my highlighter all the time, but one
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    day I got sick of doing it. And so I was
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    like, "Listen, I was like, listen, like,
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    show me your school box. What's in your
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    school box? Let's trade. I'll give you a
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    highlighter and that way you don't have
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    to keep asking me to borrow mine." Mhm.
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    And she had like half of a chewed up
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    eraser, like a pencil that was really
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    small, like and it was it was like a
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    miscellaneous box, huh? Yeah. Just like
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    a miscellaneous dirty box. And then she
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    had a used chapstick. And I was like, I
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    am a genius. So I said, I will trade you
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    my fancy highlighter for a used
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    chapstick. And she was, you know, full
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    disclosure, she was like, listen, I've
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    used this chapstick. I was like, no
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    problem. Lend me that paper clip in
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    there. Oh.
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    I went and chopped off the top of this
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    chapstick and I went it down. I turned
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    it down a little bit and then I sold it
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    to another kid in the class for a dollar
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    and that got me a cinnamon stick churo
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    at snack time. I love that for you. Come
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    on, hustlewoman. But then I kept doing
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    it and like I kept like I would get like
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    a bunch of chapstick and I started
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    selling it and then they called my
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    parents. Wait, why did you get in
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    trouble for that? Cuz I was like running
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    an underground chapstick ring during
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    school hours and they were like this
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    girl can't keep selling chapstick. And
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    girl, they was acting like it was drugs
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    or something, right? I was like, "This
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    is chapstick. Everybody needs to be
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    moisturized." If anything, they should
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    have been inspired.
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    Look at me now. Entrepreneur.
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    Entrepreneur. Um, so speaking of your
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    parents, ethnically, you are
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    African-American and Filipino Chinese.
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    Um, do you feel like any of those
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    cultural backgrounds played into how
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    your parents viewed money? And I asked
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    that because my parents are Chinese and
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    they're very frugal. Mhm. Well, both of
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    my families are a part of the working
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    class. So, I've saw like my
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    grandparents, my my aunties, my uncles,
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    my older cousins, my mom and my dad.
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    Everyone had that odd job or that 9
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    toive job or that graveyard shift that
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    they did to make ends meet. Um, so I
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    just saw my family working a lot. That's
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    that's how I remember my childhood. Like
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    for me, that was like normal. Like there
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    was no like stay-at-home moms, dads, or
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    or or anything in that matter. So for
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    me, I thought the whole world was just
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    out there working every day. Yeah. How
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    did that hustle encourage you? Were
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    they, you know, were they like, "You
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    have to be XYZ, you have to do XYZ, or
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    did they just want you to be happy?" Um,
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    I think the main thing my mom wanted me
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    to do was just get good grades. So, I
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    was always avid with like um getting my
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    A's, very proactive like my homework. If
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    I didn't get um a good grade on my test,
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    I'd go back correct my answers to bump
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    my grade up. Yeah, I was very um Yeah, I
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    was very serious with my grades. I mean,
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    you know, I mean, I don't know if you
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    had a tiger mom, but it's just like the
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    B's and the C's is is not cutting it.
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    They want straight A's. Yeah. Yeah.
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    Yeah. Bees were like, "Don't even show
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    this to me." Yeah. Like, it was bad.
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    Exactly. Um that's so funny. What was
  • 00:10:20
    your favorite subject? Math. Math. I
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    love math. Yes. Why? I don't know. I
  • 00:10:26
    just love numbers and I love like
  • 00:10:28
    writing numbers with my pencil. I know
  • 00:10:30
    that sounds really weird, but I really
  • 00:10:32
    enjoyed like the lead pencil clicking
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    and then me writing out the numbers. It
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    was something that just was very
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    therapeutic to me. So, fast forward, you
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    get these good grades. You are this, you
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    know, little dork in school. You end up
  • 00:10:45
    getting into USC. Talk to me a little
  • 00:10:47
    bit about that experience like you know,
  • 00:10:49
    were you thinking about how am I going
  • 00:10:51
    to pay for school? Like, how did that
  • 00:10:53
    go? Um, well, I went to San Diego State
  • 00:10:55
    first. Oh, San Diego State first. I went
  • 00:10:57
    to San Diego State and then I
  • 00:10:58
    transferred to USC. Um and because of my
  • 00:11:02
    grades, I had got my um tuition covered.
  • 00:11:06
    Oh. But in but unfortunately um every
  • 00:11:09
    year at USC, the tuition would go up. So
  • 00:11:11
    my like my how everything was covered
  • 00:11:14
    capped at a certain amount. Yeah. So
  • 00:11:16
    every day when tuition would go up, I'd
  • 00:11:18
    have to like make the difference up. So
  • 00:11:20
    I ended up having to to pull out loans.
  • 00:11:22
    So when I got when I had gotten my
  • 00:11:24
    record deal, the f one of the first
  • 00:11:25
    things that I did was pay off my
  • 00:11:26
    tuition.
  • 00:11:28
    Did you ever think that you were going
  • 00:11:30
    to be a musician? Yes. I just knew it. I
  • 00:11:34
    just knew it from like the bottom of my
  • 00:11:36
    heart. I was like, I can't. Talk to me
  • 00:11:37
    about that confidence because you
  • 00:11:38
    answered that so fast. Uhhuh. I mean, I
  • 00:11:40
    think there was just an undeniable
  • 00:11:44
    connection to my passion and my dream.
  • 00:11:47
    Yeah. And don't get get me wrong, like
  • 00:11:49
    after college, I did apply to get um you
  • 00:11:52
    know, one of those well- paid
  • 00:11:54
    nine-to-five jobs. Yeah. But every time
  • 00:11:56
    like I go through the whole interview
  • 00:11:58
    process, go through the motions, and
  • 00:11:59
    then every time I would get the job, I
  • 00:12:01
    would decline it because I'm like, if I
  • 00:12:02
    put myself back into the cycle, I'm
  • 00:12:04
    never going to be able to really pursue
  • 00:12:06
    my dreams. So, that's when I would do
  • 00:12:08
    like a whole bunch of like odd jobs so
  • 00:12:09
    that I could like pursue my passion in,
  • 00:12:11
    you know, music. What was the hardest
  • 00:12:14
    job to turn down and how much did it
  • 00:12:16
    pay? I had applied to be a medical
  • 00:12:17
    assistant. Don't ask me what I put on my
  • 00:12:19
    resume,
  • 00:12:22
    but I believe it was like 50k a year.
  • 00:12:25
    Okay. And as like a a graduate with no
  • 00:12:28
    income, like that was a lot to me.
  • 00:12:30
    That's a lot of money. Yeah. So, it was
  • 00:12:32
    around like 50 55k to be like a medical
  • 00:12:35
    assistant. Yeah. Okay. But talk to me.
  • 00:12:38
    You want to be a musician so bad, but
  • 00:12:39
    there's a lot of people out there that
  • 00:12:41
    want to be rappers. They want to be
  • 00:12:42
    singers. like what was this undying
  • 00:12:44
    belief that you would be able to do it
  • 00:12:46
    because you know so many people try and
  • 00:12:49
    they don't make it to superstardom.
  • 00:12:52
    Honestly, the first the first encounter
  • 00:12:56
    that I had um is was at church. So my
  • 00:13:01
    grandparents are pastors and every every
  • 00:13:04
    summer they'd have like a prophet come
  • 00:13:06
    and prophesize. So, when I was around
  • 00:13:09
    like 12 or 13, someone had came to the
  • 00:13:11
    church and they had prophesied to me
  • 00:13:12
    that I'd be a musician one day. And they
  • 00:13:15
    said a lot of great other things, but
  • 00:13:16
    I'll just keep those to myself. But, um,
  • 00:13:20
    yeah, in that moment, I was like, what
  • 00:13:21
    is she talking about? Like, I want to do
  • 00:13:22
    hair. Like, I wanted to do hair. Yeah.
  • 00:13:25
    At first, I wanted to be a hair stylist.
  • 00:13:27
    But when like my passion for like poetry
  • 00:13:30
    and writing my feelings came about, my
  • 00:13:33
    mind went back to like that moment in
  • 00:13:34
    church. And I'm like, you know what?
  • 00:13:36
    Maybe like music is is where I'm
  • 00:13:37
    supposed to be and like I just feel like
  • 00:13:39
    my soul is committed to this, you know?
  • 00:13:41
    I couldn't picture myself doing anything
  • 00:13:43
    else. Yeah. Mhm. So, you decide you want
  • 00:13:46
    to be a m musician. You're turning down
  • 00:13:48
    these great job offers. Mhm. I'm lying
  • 00:13:52
    on my resume. You're lying on your
  • 00:13:54
    resume. You know what? Listen. Listen.
  • 00:13:55
    All of us embellish a little. Just a a
  • 00:13:58
    little fib. Just a little. Just a
  • 00:14:00
    little. Um, but you know, you start out,
  • 00:14:04
    obviously things don't happen
  • 00:14:06
    immediately. What were those early years
  • 00:14:08
    like? Um, how was it with money, like
  • 00:14:10
    you know, being a struggling artist? So,
  • 00:14:13
    when you're in a city that you're not
  • 00:14:16
    from and you don't really have like the
  • 00:14:18
    support of like your family or just
  • 00:14:20
    people who you can rely on financially,
  • 00:14:22
    um, it is uncomfortable. So, what I did
  • 00:14:25
    is I gave myself a year. I'm like,
  • 00:14:27
    you're already a year out of school.
  • 00:14:29
    Struggling in LA is not fun. So, I'm
  • 00:14:31
    gonna give myself another year and if I
  • 00:14:32
    don't get discovered, I'm gonna go back
  • 00:14:34
    home. So, on the ninth month from that
  • 00:14:37
    plan that I had set out for myself, I
  • 00:14:39
    had got discovered. But because I have g
  • 00:14:41
    I had gave myself a deadline, I was
  • 00:14:43
    actually working towards something
  • 00:14:45
    instead of just aimlessly trying to like
  • 00:14:47
    figure it out. So, I really encourage
  • 00:14:49
    people to have like deadlines for
  • 00:14:51
    themselves so that they're able to see
  • 00:14:52
    what they've accomplished and what they
  • 00:14:53
    haven't accomplished. That's so smart.
  • 00:14:57
    Like were there any moments during that
  • 00:15:00
    like ninemonth period after that first
  • 00:15:02
    year where you're like I don't know if
  • 00:15:04
    this is happening. Um yeah. Well, when
  • 00:15:06
    you're paying for like rent Yeah. and
  • 00:15:10
    gas and at the end of the month your
  • 00:15:12
    checkings goes down to like damn near
  • 00:15:14
    zero and you're trying to figure out
  • 00:15:16
    monthto month like that's really
  • 00:15:17
    stressful. So I was tired of that
  • 00:15:19
    lifestyle and that's when I had given
  • 00:15:21
    myself a deadline. That's really really
  • 00:15:23
    smart. Um what during that time was the
  • 00:15:27
    driving force behind your creativity?
  • 00:15:30
    Like was it like personal like breakups
  • 00:15:32
    or um you know friends? What was it? It
  • 00:15:34
    was breakups, it was friends, it was it
  • 00:15:38
    was a lot of aspirational writing um
  • 00:15:40
    because of what I was aspiring to be.
  • 00:15:42
    Yeah. Um but interestingly a lot of like
  • 00:15:46
    those raps that I have that I wrote back
  • 00:15:48
    then was written during like me driving
  • 00:15:51
    driving. Yeah. I don't know what it is
  • 00:15:52
    when I'm driving or when I'm working
  • 00:15:53
    out. That's when like I I write the
  • 00:15:55
    best. Like I have to be like
  • 00:15:57
    multitasking sometimes when I'm
  • 00:15:59
    listening to a beat. And I feel like
  • 00:16:01
    that's where my best inspiration comes
  • 00:16:02
    from. It just like pulls something else
  • 00:16:05
    out of me. What kind of car were you
  • 00:16:07
    driving at the time? I was driving a
  • 00:16:08
    Toyota Corolla Sport. Yes. What color?
  • 00:16:12
    It was dark gray. Like a shark gray.
  • 00:16:14
    Okay. Yeah. Nice. That little thing used
  • 00:16:16
    to get me everywhere. Yeah.
  • 00:16:20
    Um, did you feel like during that time
  • 00:16:22
    there was anything that you did that
  • 00:16:24
    you're like, man, I wish I had managed
  • 00:16:26
    my money differently? I mean, there was
  • 00:16:29
    no money to manage.
  • 00:16:32
    U, honestly, like it gets to the point
  • 00:16:35
    where I knew that I had to be really
  • 00:16:37
    intentional with my driving cuz, you
  • 00:16:40
    know, gas is really expensive,
  • 00:16:41
    especially during the summertime in LA.
  • 00:16:43
    So, it's like sometimes I get invite
  • 00:16:45
    invited out and if I didn't have a ride,
  • 00:16:46
    I wouldn't go even though I had a car
  • 00:16:48
    because it's just like I have to be very
  • 00:16:50
    intentional with where like I'm spending
  • 00:16:53
    like, you know, my gas money. So,
  • 00:16:55
    moments like that make me really
  • 00:16:57
    appreciative to to where I'm at today
  • 00:16:59
    cuz now I don't worry about, you know,
  • 00:17:00
    that gas money and and where I'm going.
  • 00:17:02
    I can just go. Yeah. When you were
  • 00:17:04
    budgeting back then, was there anything
  • 00:17:06
    that you wish you could have afforded?
  • 00:17:08
    Um, probably better meals. You really
  • 00:17:11
    are a foodie. Yeah. Is that what you
  • 00:17:13
    think you spend the most of your money
  • 00:17:14
    on now? Yeah. Yeah. But so you know how
  • 00:17:17
    you had um pistachios? Yeah. My go-to
  • 00:17:20
    was peanut butter and jelly sandwiches.
  • 00:17:22
    Okay. With milk and ice in it. Milk?
  • 00:17:25
    Wait. Ice in the milk? Yeah. Ice in the
  • 00:17:27
    milk. It's such a delicacy.
  • 00:17:31
    But it was either that or it was ground
  • 00:17:33
    turkey and rice. Okay. Yeah, ground
  • 00:17:35
    turkey and rice actually sounds
  • 00:17:36
    delicious. With some with some ketchup.
  • 00:17:38
    Yeah. Okay. Wait. No, you just lost me.
  • 00:17:40
    What? with ketchup. Yeah, with ketchup
  • 00:17:42
    on the side. Ground turkey rice. Put
  • 00:17:45
    some ketchup. Girl, aren't you Filipino?
  • 00:17:48
    Couldn't we have at least made that into
  • 00:17:50
    like some sort of ground turkey adobo?
  • 00:17:52
    We had to put ketchup in it. And adobo
  • 00:17:54
    got too many ingredients. I'm trying to
  • 00:17:56
    get home from trying to get home. Put
  • 00:17:58
    some ground turkey. Put a little salt,
  • 00:17:59
    pepper. I'm hungry. Okay. Okay. Okay. We
  • 00:18:02
    have the ketchup turkey and rice. And
  • 00:18:04
    then the PB&J. PB&J. Okay. Yeah. Um,
  • 00:18:07
    easy enough, I guess.
  • 00:18:10
    Um, so talk to me about the kind of like
  • 00:18:12
    that come up period. Nine months in,
  • 00:18:14
    you're discovered. Mhm. What happens?
  • 00:18:18
    Um, well, I'm finally able to get an
  • 00:18:20
    apartment. Um, because I was renting
  • 00:18:22
    rooms off of Craigslist. Yeah. And for
  • 00:18:24
    anybody who's familiar with that, the
  • 00:18:26
    reason why a lot of people do that is
  • 00:18:28
    because you don't have to, you know, pay
  • 00:18:30
    first and last month's rent and a
  • 00:18:32
    security deposit. And a security
  • 00:18:33
    deposit. It's just like too much going
  • 00:18:35
    on when you get an apartment on your
  • 00:18:37
    own. So, I was running rooms off in
  • 00:18:38
    Craig Craigslist cuz I couldn't afford
  • 00:18:40
    to do that. So, after I got like my big
  • 00:18:43
    lumpsum, I finally got my own apartment
  • 00:18:46
    um with a roommate. She was great. And I
  • 00:18:49
    got a car. I got a new car. What kind?
  • 00:18:52
    Um I got a G Wagon. Oh, okay. I love
  • 00:18:55
    cars and I love food. Like those are
  • 00:18:56
    like my two things. Um but yeah that's
  • 00:19:00
    that's what I did when that you know
  • 00:19:02
    first big lump sum came in and obviously
  • 00:19:04
    before that when you were negotiating
  • 00:19:06
    that contract was there anyone that you
  • 00:19:08
    were going to for money advice of like
  • 00:19:10
    hey is this a good contract or my
  • 00:19:12
    contract was horrible.
  • 00:19:14
    It was I mean talk to me about that. You
  • 00:19:17
    know, I feel like one thing that artists
  • 00:19:19
    have to be careful of, especially, you
  • 00:19:21
    know, starving and broke artists, it's
  • 00:19:23
    like sometimes negotiating for a longer
  • 00:19:26
    amount of period and really
  • 00:19:27
    understanding what you're getting
  • 00:19:28
    yourself into um pays off in the long
  • 00:19:31
    run. But honestly, I was just so happy
  • 00:19:33
    to have all that money in my face. I'm
  • 00:19:34
    like, "Okay, I need this. Let's go."
  • 00:19:36
    When it came to future negotiations, did
  • 00:19:39
    you have a money mentor that you were
  • 00:19:41
    speaking with maybe other artists, maybe
  • 00:19:43
    management agents, whatever to help you?
  • 00:19:45
    Well, right now I have a really great
  • 00:19:46
    business team and I have really good
  • 00:19:48
    lawyers. They kind of like walked me
  • 00:19:50
    through the process. Once you got that
  • 00:19:52
    lump sum, did you immediately want to
  • 00:19:54
    spend all that money or were you
  • 00:19:56
    thinking about the future for
  • 00:19:57
    retirement? How are you setting that
  • 00:19:59
    aside? You know what's really funny
  • 00:20:00
    about that? So, I was really frugal with
  • 00:20:02
    my money in the beginning. Yeah. And um
  • 00:20:05
    there was like a really long period of
  • 00:20:07
    time where I was just like working my
  • 00:20:08
    ass off. Yeah. And for some reason, I
  • 00:20:11
    had called to ask like my accountant how
  • 00:20:14
    much money I had made. I had so much
  • 00:20:16
    money and I was like where the hell I
  • 00:20:17
    get all this money from. Yeah. Um but
  • 00:20:20
    it's because like I wasn't like
  • 00:20:21
    splurging. Yeah. Um on everything, but
  • 00:20:24
    unfortunately after that I started
  • 00:20:25
    splurging. No, you should have never
  • 00:20:28
    made that call. I should have never made
  • 00:20:29
    that call. But because I was like living
  • 00:20:31
    below my means and I wasn't really like
  • 00:20:34
    paying attention with how much money I
  • 00:20:36
    was making. Yeah. I was just grinding
  • 00:20:39
    and then after that it was like a shark
  • 00:20:41
    that smells some blood. I was like,
  • 00:20:43
    "Damn, I got this much money. We fa to
  • 00:20:45
    go crazy." And it was probably one of
  • 00:20:48
    like the worst mistakes I made. Wait,
  • 00:20:50
    talk to me. So, like, what were some of
  • 00:20:52
    the things that you were buying? Um,
  • 00:20:54
    clothes. I was paying I was paying for,
  • 00:20:57
    you know, if someone like close to me
  • 00:20:59
    needed some money, I'd give them a lump
  • 00:21:00
    sum. Like, I was very generous with my
  • 00:21:02
    money. Yeah. And I I don't recommend
  • 00:21:05
    that because when you give a large lump
  • 00:21:08
    sum to people, they expect it to be that
  • 00:21:11
    easy every time. Yeah. So, I mean, I had
  • 00:21:13
    to start creating boundaries because um
  • 00:21:16
    some people thought that like money was
  • 00:21:18
    just growing off of trees and it's just
  • 00:21:19
    like, no, I'm working my ass off of
  • 00:21:20
    this. What do you mind me asking? Was it
  • 00:21:23
    family or friends? Um primar, you know,
  • 00:21:26
    people that's close to me. Yeah. Um how
  • 00:21:29
    did you set those boundaries? Was it
  • 00:21:30
    just like, hey, I'm not doing this
  • 00:21:32
    anymore or? Um, it's it's a it's a
  • 00:21:35
    delicate conversation, but it's just
  • 00:21:36
    kind of like, hey, I did this. Um, and
  • 00:21:40
    unfortunately going forward, you know,
  • 00:21:42
    we have to figure out a a a better or
  • 00:21:45
    more healthy system because if I'm g
  • 00:21:46
    because it's not like I'm giving them a
  • 00:21:48
    couple hundred, I'm giving like a lump
  • 00:21:49
    sum, you know, like I'm thinking that
  • 00:21:51
    this going to last you for a minute and
  • 00:21:52
    sometimes it's not lasting them for a
  • 00:21:54
    minute and they're coming back like
  • 00:21:55
    quicker. So, I think it's just about
  • 00:21:57
    like creating healthy boundaries. Um,
  • 00:21:59
    but that was my fault. You know, I was
  • 00:22:01
    excited and when I get excited, I I like
  • 00:22:03
    to be generous. So, um, I had to check
  • 00:22:07
    myself. Yeah. I also get the vibe that
  • 00:22:09
    you're very much like a loyal person. I
  • 00:22:12
    got the same five friends with me. Um,
  • 00:22:15
    did it ever get weird? Because all of a
  • 00:22:17
    sudden you started to make a lot more
  • 00:22:19
    money. Like, you know, you told me, we
  • 00:22:21
    talked about this when you walked in,
  • 00:22:22
    you watched my video about how I had a
  • 00:22:25
    really annoying friend who would order
  • 00:22:27
    crab legs at dinner when the rest of us
  • 00:22:28
    got a salad in college and we couldn't
  • 00:22:30
    afford it. But like, was there ever a
  • 00:22:33
    weird moment with you and your older
  • 00:22:35
    friends like when you guys wanted to go
  • 00:22:37
    out together or do stuff together? Um,
  • 00:22:40
    honestly, no.
  • 00:22:42
    Because I don't like, and this is where
  • 00:22:45
    I had to like even check myself. It's
  • 00:22:46
    just like because I felt like I had made
  • 00:22:49
    so much money, like I'm I wouldn't mind
  • 00:22:51
    taking care of the bill. It wasn't weird
  • 00:22:53
    for me. But I did have to like pull back
  • 00:22:55
    from going out because I noticed that
  • 00:22:57
    sometimes I'm the only one paying for
  • 00:22:59
    things. Yeah. Um so it wasn't a matter
  • 00:23:01
    of things getting weird. I think I had
  • 00:23:03
    to just open that door too quickly, you
  • 00:23:05
    know? Um but like I said, like I've when
  • 00:23:09
    you never have money and when you
  • 00:23:10
    finally get money and you're around
  • 00:23:12
    people that you love, you just want to
  • 00:23:13
    start taking care of people. Yeah. I
  • 00:23:15
    think that's completely normal.
  • 00:23:17
    Completely normal. I know so many people
  • 00:23:19
    who are in that exact same position. And
  • 00:23:21
    I mean, when I first started making
  • 00:23:23
    money, the first people I wanted to
  • 00:23:24
    treat were my parents. Yeah. Me. Now,
  • 00:23:26
    when I take my girlfriends out, I pay
  • 00:23:28
    for dinner. Yeah. Um but only the good
  • 00:23:30
    ones. Not Not the girls who I know. I'm
  • 00:23:33
    like, "Oh." So, so I'm paying You're
  • 00:23:34
    getting the tomahawk steak and the crab
  • 00:23:36
    legs. That's crazy to me. Fortunately,
  • 00:23:38
    my friends are very mindful. Yeah. Like
  • 00:23:41
    respectful. Yeah. So, when we are going
  • 00:23:42
    out, they're very mindful of what they
  • 00:23:44
    get. Um, nobody over nobody overd does
  • 00:23:47
    it. I've been blessed to have like a
  • 00:23:48
    really good, you know, circle when we
  • 00:23:50
    when we step out. Like no one has no one
  • 00:23:52
    has ever went crazy. But you know what?
  • 00:23:55
    There hasn't hold on hold on hold on
  • 00:23:57
    hold on hold on. But there have been
  • 00:23:59
    instances where I've been around a group
  • 00:24:01
    of people and it's so funny how people
  • 00:24:06
    offer to do things with your money.
  • 00:24:10
    Wait, give me the example. You know
  • 00:24:11
    what? I don't even know. you know where
  • 00:24:13
    that's that saying where I don't know
  • 00:24:14
    what the exact thing is but I remember
  • 00:24:16
    how it how it made me feel. Um but it's
  • 00:24:20
    it's funny when someone can present an
  • 00:24:22
    idea especially when people are like lit
  • 00:24:24
    and having fun. Oh after this we can go
  • 00:24:26
    this place this place and this place.
  • 00:24:27
    Okay that's cool. Well how are we you
  • 00:24:30
    know like how what's the setup? Oh you
  • 00:24:32
    know like they're going to give you like
  • 00:24:33
    because of who you are they're going to
  • 00:24:34
    give you a little disc okay because of
  • 00:24:36
    who I am they're going to give me a
  • 00:24:37
    discount. Yeah. So I'm paying. Um in
  • 00:24:40
    those moments it's just funny. I mean,
  • 00:24:42
    you just got to create your boundary.
  • 00:24:43
    But it's just it's so f like people be
  • 00:24:46
    more excited to spend my money more than
  • 00:24:48
    me. Yeah, that is crazy. Um, did you
  • 00:24:53
    ever think about even making some
  • 00:24:55
    investments with that money as well?
  • 00:24:57
    Yeah, investments into myself. I feel
  • 00:24:59
    like my greatest investment was during
  • 00:25:02
    quarantine. um when we weren't allowed
  • 00:25:05
    to go outside, I invested into my brand
  • 00:25:07
    heavily and my my presence online was
  • 00:25:10
    just which is very impactful and that
  • 00:25:13
    led to you know me getting all these
  • 00:25:15
    brand deals. Yeah. So I feel like the
  • 00:25:17
    the best investment I' I've made thus
  • 00:25:19
    far has been myself. Um talk to me a
  • 00:25:22
    little bit about now these days like you
  • 00:25:25
    have a zillion different things going
  • 00:25:27
    for you. um obviously such a talented
  • 00:25:30
    musician, but like you mentioned, you're
  • 00:25:32
    also an influencer who does do branded
  • 00:25:35
    partnerships. What are all of the
  • 00:25:36
    different ways that you are making money
  • 00:25:38
    these days? I feel like one thing that
  • 00:25:40
    I've prioritized this year is going
  • 00:25:42
    outside of music. So like starting
  • 00:25:45
    businesses that typically that I would
  • 00:25:48
    have got a brand deal for, but now I'm
  • 00:25:50
    trying to create like my own brand. And
  • 00:25:53
    my my ultimate goal is to have like my
  • 00:25:55
    own brand ambassadors or me cutting the
  • 00:25:57
    checks for my influencers only because
  • 00:25:59
    I've become so big in the brand space.
  • 00:26:01
    It's like I need to have my own brand
  • 00:26:02
    now. Yeah. You're like, I'm tired of
  • 00:26:04
    doing brand deals. I want to give out
  • 00:26:06
    the brand deals. I'm really excited for
  • 00:26:08
    the moment where I create my own
  • 00:26:09
    business and I'm hiring these
  • 00:26:10
    influencers and we're at my photo shoot
  • 00:26:12
    and I'm creating the marketing plan and
  • 00:26:14
    I'm figuring out how to like facilitate
  • 00:26:16
    everything. Yeah. What advice would you
  • 00:26:18
    give to someone who was in your position
  • 00:26:21
    struggling really wanting to be where
  • 00:26:24
    you're at now? Like someone who was me
  • 00:26:26
    like a couple years ago. Yeah. Mhm. Like
  • 00:26:29
    someone who is interested in, you know,
  • 00:26:32
    maybe the music industry, but also
  • 00:26:34
    getting into acting, getting into social
  • 00:26:36
    media. Like, how did you do it all? I
  • 00:26:39
    think the best advice I can give is
  • 00:26:42
    having a strong support system. I think
  • 00:26:45
    that's the most important because after
  • 00:26:48
    you're hustling, after you're working,
  • 00:26:51
    after you're doing all these long days
  • 00:26:52
    of work, it's important to have a
  • 00:26:54
    community that you love and trust. Yeah,
  • 00:26:56
    that's the best advice I can give
  • 00:26:58
    because no matter what's going on in
  • 00:26:59
    your external life, whether it's
  • 00:27:00
    positive positive or good, if you have
  • 00:27:03
    like a a safe space, I think that's what
  • 00:27:06
    can keep um keep someone in a good
  • 00:27:10
    mental health state to keep going. Yeah.
  • 00:27:13
    And you are the queen of the pep talk.
  • 00:27:15
    Like I put your music on when I'm
  • 00:27:16
    getting ready. I'm about to go give a
  • 00:27:18
    speech or do something cool with my
  • 00:27:20
    career and I need to get really excited.
  • 00:27:22
    What is the pep talk you give yourself
  • 00:27:24
    every day in the mirror? Okay, so I have
  • 00:27:28
    a friend. No, I have a friend in a
  • 00:27:31
    different industry and this friend is
  • 00:27:33
    like really good at what they do. And um
  • 00:27:37
    my friend told me that before they go on
  • 00:27:41
    set or before they do anything, they
  • 00:27:43
    tell theirel like, "I'm the best. I
  • 00:27:45
    believe in myself. I can do this." It's
  • 00:27:47
    a whole bunch of like affirmations, but
  • 00:27:49
    it's very intense. It's like you do
  • 00:27:51
    that, you don't touch your phone, and
  • 00:27:52
    then you hit the stage or you hit the
  • 00:27:54
    set and then you just lock in. Wait,
  • 00:27:56
    wait, wait. Why can't I touch my
  • 00:27:57
    emotional support phone? your emotional
  • 00:27:59
    support phone. What's that? It's just
  • 00:28:01
    like, you know, like how all these days
  • 00:28:03
    like all of us are just like addicted to
  • 00:28:04
    our phones. I feel like I'm always
  • 00:28:07
    holding that thing just like it's like
  • 00:28:09
    it just provides me comfort. Wait, what
  • 00:28:11
    do you I've never heard this before. No,
  • 00:28:13
    like just like um Okay, so some people
  • 00:28:16
    have like an emotional support animal.
  • 00:28:18
    That's like where it initially came
  • 00:28:20
    from. But then there was like a joke
  • 00:28:21
    amongst the girlies that we all had like
  • 00:28:23
    emotional support water bottles. Like
  • 00:28:25
    you always had that water bottle on you
  • 00:28:26
    cuz you never wanted to be thirsty. But
  • 00:28:28
    I've taken it one step further now and
  • 00:28:30
    I'm like I have an emotional support
  • 00:28:31
    phone that I'm like if I don't have my
  • 00:28:34
    phone I'm like oh my gosh. You know what
  • 00:28:36
    mine is then? What? Gum.
  • 00:28:39
    My emotional support. Your emotional
  • 00:28:41
    support gum. Yeah. That's my that's my
  • 00:28:43
    thing. You have to have gum. Yeah.
  • 00:28:44
    That's that's my emotional support.
  • 00:28:46
    Okay. Well, you can have your emotional
  • 00:28:48
    support phone, but just don't check it
  • 00:28:49
    because what you're doing is you're
  • 00:28:51
    getting into a zone and you're locking
  • 00:28:53
    in before you have to handle whatever
  • 00:28:55
    you have to handle. Is that what you do
  • 00:28:57
    before you go and perform live?
  • 00:28:59
    Sometimes I have to get better at being
  • 00:29:01
    consistent with it, but when I do it
  • 00:29:02
    before a show, like it's generally a
  • 00:29:05
    good show. Yeah. I don't know if you are
  • 00:29:08
    able to share this, but you mentioned
  • 00:29:10
    wanting to like build businesses. Is
  • 00:29:14
    this something that you are planning on
  • 00:29:15
    doing on your own or are you looking for
  • 00:29:18
    someone to kind of come be the immigr?
  • 00:29:23
    Oh, wow. That's a good point. Um, I
  • 00:29:26
    definitely need a team. I don't think
  • 00:29:28
    it's something that I can do alone, but
  • 00:29:30
    um, partnerships work the best for me,
  • 00:29:33
    you know. Um, and I'm not afraid to
  • 00:29:35
    admit that. You know, some people can do
  • 00:29:36
    it on their own. I'm the type of person
  • 00:29:38
    person where I need a partnership so
  • 00:29:41
    that I can have some accountability and
  • 00:29:42
    that's the best way that I work. Yeah.
  • 00:29:45
    Um, in terms of other investments in
  • 00:29:48
    your life, talk to me. stock market,
  • 00:29:51
    like you know, real estate. Is there
  • 00:29:53
    anything else that you have your eye on?
  • 00:29:55
    I'm interested in real estate. You are?
  • 00:29:57
    Why? Talk to me. Um because So, if I
  • 00:29:59
    were to do real estate or when I do
  • 00:30:01
    finally get into it, um I'd like to
  • 00:30:04
    create luxury affordable homes for
  • 00:30:06
    college students. Okay. There's a little
  • 00:30:09
    bit of an like oxymoron here happening.
  • 00:30:12
    Luxury roof. I love that. like like
  • 00:30:15
    something that's comfortable and
  • 00:30:17
    something that's
  • 00:30:19
    nice to at least look at because think
  • 00:30:21
    about it, you know how it is. You're you
  • 00:30:23
    are a college girl, you're at school all
  • 00:30:25
    day, you're you're you're you're going
  • 00:30:28
    to work. When you come home, you want to
  • 00:30:30
    feel like you're in a comfortable
  • 00:30:32
    environment that you can just relax and
  • 00:30:35
    love like looking at, right, sweetie? I
  • 00:30:37
    wish I could tell you my college
  • 00:30:38
    apartment was trash, right? Was so
  • 00:30:41
    trash. I lived on a street called
  • 00:30:42
    Kenwood and we called it the Kenwood
  • 00:30:44
    crack den because the entire apartment
  • 00:30:46
    was tilted. If you put a marble on the
  • 00:30:48
    ground, it would roll to one side. We
  • 00:30:50
    had a fifth roommate named Chester that
  • 00:30:53
    it was a mouse. It was I can't even
  • 00:30:56
    begin to explain to you how dastardly
  • 00:30:59
    this apartment was. So, let me tell you
  • 00:31:00
    something. When I was at state and at
  • 00:31:04
    USC, we're paying at least 1,100 to,500
  • 00:31:08
    a month. Yeah. to split a tiny room. And
  • 00:31:12
    it's like, why are we That's a lot.
  • 00:31:14
    Yeah. But why are we Well, it's
  • 00:31:15
    California. Yeah. But why are we why are
  • 00:31:17
    we And that's why I had to take out all
  • 00:31:19
    those loans, too. But it's it don't
  • 00:31:21
    matter where you went. It could have
  • 00:31:22
    been a nice place, an old place, but
  • 00:31:24
    it's just like why are the living
  • 00:31:26
    conditions like this because of greed,
  • 00:31:29
    because of capitalism? No. Like, kids
  • 00:31:31
    need to come home. They need to
  • 00:31:33
    decompress. They need to relax because
  • 00:31:34
    it's just like we're already like our
  • 00:31:36
    brain's already on 10 at campus. when I
  • 00:31:39
    come home, I want to be in my safe
  • 00:31:41
    haven. I want to actually like coming
  • 00:31:42
    home, you know? Yeah. Yeah. That's such
  • 00:31:45
    a great part of the market that I feel
  • 00:31:47
    like is so underaddressed. Yeah. But
  • 00:31:49
    that's that's my goal. We had like an
  • 00:31:50
    evil landlord. An evil landlord. Oh, I
  • 00:31:53
    had multiple evil landlords throughout
  • 00:31:55
    my life. Did I I've never had one. I
  • 00:31:59
    never had one. Probably because you
  • 00:32:00
    didn't sign a like a long-term lease all
  • 00:32:02
    those years. No, let me tell you
  • 00:32:04
    something. One of one of my one of my
  • 00:32:07
    Craig Craigslist roommates kicked me
  • 00:32:09
    out. Wait, what? So, um I had I had two
  • 00:32:14
    I had three roommates. So, I had it was
  • 00:32:16
    both of us. It was one girl in a room
  • 00:32:18
    and then me in a room and in the living
  • 00:32:20
    room it was a girl and her daughter and
  • 00:32:22
    they had sheets. Yeah. But it was right
  • 00:32:24
    next to the kitchen. I'm a night owl.
  • 00:32:26
    So, like I would work out, come home,
  • 00:32:28
    cook my, you know, my my ground turkey,
  • 00:32:31
    my rice and ketchup. So eventually they
  • 00:32:33
    were like, "You need to change like your
  • 00:32:35
    workout routine." And I at first I was
  • 00:32:37
    just like, "Why why are you telling me
  • 00:32:39
    this?" They're like, "Because like um
  • 00:32:43
    it's affecting our sleep, etc., etc."
  • 00:32:45
    I'm like, "Okay, cool." So I didn't
  • 00:32:47
    change my workout routine.
  • 00:32:50
    But I found if I came home and made a
  • 00:32:52
    quick PB&J, that would be better than
  • 00:32:54
    me, you know, then cooking on the stove,
  • 00:32:56
    you know, washing the dishes after. I
  • 00:32:57
    can just pop some some bread in the in
  • 00:32:59
    the um toaster, take it out. quick PB
  • 00:33:02
    and J. I'm out. Unfortunately, that
  • 00:33:04
    didn't work for them. So, they like
  • 00:33:06
    petitioned for me to get out. And then
  • 00:33:08
    the other roommate agreed. All of them
  • 00:33:11
    agreed. Well, because because I was like
  • 00:33:14
    the new roommate in the in the
  • 00:33:16
    community. So, I had run in somebody
  • 00:33:18
    else's room out. But it was like three
  • 00:33:19
    against one. They were like, "You come
  • 00:33:21
    home too late. You're cooking in the
  • 00:33:22
    kitchen too late. You got to go." But
  • 00:33:24
    fortunately for me, it like pushed me to
  • 00:33:26
    find one of the best roommates I've ever
  • 00:33:28
    had.
  • 00:33:29
    How are you finding these roommates?
  • 00:33:31
    Craigslist, girl. Okay, but I'm scared
  • 00:33:33
    of Craigslist. Me, too. That's why I had
  • 00:33:35
    to say a little prayer.
  • 00:33:38
    But you found a good roommate. I found a
  • 00:33:40
    great roommate. And what's what's crazy
  • 00:33:42
    is she would work all night and then
  • 00:33:45
    sleep all day. So, our schedules were
  • 00:33:47
    flip-flop. So, it was like you lived by
  • 00:33:48
    herself. That's even better. Yeah.
  • 00:33:50
    That's genius. Genius. Genius. Um, so
  • 00:33:54
    now that you are in a position where
  • 00:33:56
    you've got a really successful music
  • 00:33:58
    career, you've started acting as well,
  • 00:34:00
    you've got this great, you know,
  • 00:34:01
    influencer business, you're building out
  • 00:34:04
    your own businesses in the future
  • 00:34:06
    hopefully. Um, what else is kind of like
  • 00:34:09
    on the road map of that foundation,
  • 00:34:11
    reestablishing my media team? Wait, what
  • 00:34:15
    do you mean by that? Um, because there
  • 00:34:16
    was a point in time where I was like,
  • 00:34:18
    you know, very ubiquitous online. Yeah.
  • 00:34:20
    But then I had took some time off to,
  • 00:34:22
    you know, focus on the music. And now
  • 00:34:24
    that the music is ready to be rolled
  • 00:34:26
    out. Um, I spent countless hours in the
  • 00:34:28
    studio. I need to like get a media team
  • 00:34:30
    again because, you know, I'm going to
  • 00:34:32
    pop out again. But this time, I like it
  • 00:34:34
    I'd like it to be under like my own
  • 00:34:35
    media company only because I I produce
  • 00:34:38
    so much content and a lot of that IP is
  • 00:34:40
    mine anyways. So, it's like I'd like to,
  • 00:34:43
    you know, build something off of
  • 00:34:47
    not the old content, but the new content
  • 00:34:49
    that I'm gonna make. Yeah. You're doing
  • 00:34:51
    all the work. Might as well. Might as
  • 00:34:53
    well own it. Absolutely. Um, when you
  • 00:34:57
    started making some of that bigger
  • 00:34:59
    money, what was the best thing you spent
  • 00:35:02
    your money on? Um, paying my tithes.
  • 00:35:06
    Paying your what? My tithes. Oh, okay.
  • 00:35:08
    So, you mentioned like church a couple
  • 00:35:10
    times. Like, do you still find that
  • 00:35:13
    you're very spiritual, religious? Do you
  • 00:35:15
    still go to church? Um, I've always been
  • 00:35:17
    spiritual and when I can go to church, I
  • 00:35:19
    do. Um, but I love giving back to a
  • 00:35:21
    community that's always praying for me
  • 00:35:23
    and my grandmother's always praying for
  • 00:35:24
    me. Um, and they do like a lot of like
  • 00:35:27
    when I was donating a lot, they were
  • 00:35:29
    able to put that to like a lot of good
  • 00:35:30
    use. So, I like that I'm able to like
  • 00:35:33
    share my resources with people who need
  • 00:35:35
    them and who actually use them for like
  • 00:35:37
    a good purpose. Yeah. Mhm. Was there
  • 00:35:40
    anything that you ever bought your
  • 00:35:42
    parents? My parents The first thing that
  • 00:35:44
    I did was buy my mom her favorite bag.
  • 00:35:47
    Yeah. What was it? This Bayga green bag.
  • 00:35:51
    I forgot what it is, but her favorite
  • 00:35:53
    brand used to be or still is Bayga
  • 00:35:55
    Vanetta.
  • 00:35:57
    Why that over anything else? Do you
  • 00:35:58
    know? You know, I don't know. I don't
  • 00:36:00
    know. But she does like when she gets
  • 00:36:02
    Chanel bags, so I think she might just
  • 00:36:05
    like all bags that come from you. Yeah,
  • 00:36:07
    that's her daughter. Yeah, but that's
  • 00:36:08
    like the first thing that I bought my
  • 00:36:09
    mom. Yeah. Mhm.
  • 00:36:13
    Do you feel like um there's anything
  • 00:36:15
    that you currently have your eye on in
  • 00:36:17
    terms of spending?
  • 00:36:23
    That's a good That's a good question.
  • 00:36:26
    But honestly, I had pulled back from
  • 00:36:27
    like spending frivolously. I'm like,
  • 00:36:30
    "Girl, you need to chill." Post that
  • 00:36:31
    call after that, you know, with your
  • 00:36:32
    accountant, you were like, "I need to
  • 00:36:34
    Yeah. Um chill. Yeah, I need to chill. I
  • 00:36:36
    I feel like I've been in a more chill
  • 00:36:37
    state. There's nothing I really had my
  • 00:36:39
    eye on. I've just been really focused on
  • 00:36:41
    on working and, you know, um getting
  • 00:36:44
    this music together." Yeah. Oh, that's a
  • 00:36:46
    good question.
  • 00:36:48
    Okay. Well, don't let me put the
  • 00:36:49
    question in your head and then you have
  • 00:36:50
    to go out and buy something. No,
  • 00:36:52
    absolutely not. But I think the next
  • 00:36:53
    thing that that I'd probably buy is some
  • 00:36:56
    property. Mhm. something that'll
  • 00:36:59
    appreciate in the future hopefully.
  • 00:37:01
    Yeah. Gain value. But also, I don't know
  • 00:37:03
    where I want to buy this property
  • 00:37:04
    because I'm kind of tired of LA. Oh, you
  • 00:37:06
    are? I'm tired of LA. Yeah. I'm ready to
  • 00:37:09
    like leave. Oh, come on. So, it's like I
  • 00:37:12
    don't want to buy a house here and then
  • 00:37:13
    I leave. So, I think that's some that's
  • 00:37:16
    another reason why I've been kind of
  • 00:37:17
    like postpone I've been like postponing
  • 00:37:19
    on like finding something out here that
  • 00:37:20
    I have to commit to. Yeah, that's a good
  • 00:37:24
    piece of advice. I asked you earlier and
  • 00:37:25
    I was like, "How are you managing your
  • 00:37:27
    money when you didn't have any?" And you
  • 00:37:28
    said, "I didn't have any money to
  • 00:37:29
    manage." What about now? How do you
  • 00:37:31
    manage your money now? Having a good
  • 00:37:33
    business team. And you rely on them. I
  • 00:37:35
    really appreciate them and I rely on
  • 00:37:37
    them. They put everything out on
  • 00:37:39
    spreadsheets. We talk about goals. We
  • 00:37:41
    talk about my spending habits. And I
  • 00:37:43
    think that for someone who's always
  • 00:37:45
    working, especially at my level, I think
  • 00:37:47
    that it's great to have a business team
  • 00:37:49
    that you can rely on and trust. What is
  • 00:37:52
    a money goal of yours? Like is there a
  • 00:37:54
    number? A money goal is to have passive
  • 00:37:57
    income in the millions. Passive income
  • 00:38:00
    in the millions. Okay.
  • 00:38:03
    Do you have a [ __ ] you number? [ __ ] you
  • 00:38:06
    number? Yeah. What's that? Oh girl.
  • 00:38:08
    Okay. So this is like the you're rich
  • 00:38:10
    BFF like [ __ ] you number. Basically
  • 00:38:13
    there will be a number out there that
  • 00:38:15
    the passive income that comes off of
  • 00:38:19
    those investment gains. If you have that
  • 00:38:20
    number invested, you can kick over your
  • 00:38:23
    desk and tell your boss, "Fuck you." So,
  • 00:38:26
    for example, um the this is the
  • 00:38:29
    calculation. You You're a math girl, so
  • 00:38:30
    you'll get this. You'll love this. So,
  • 00:38:33
    you think about your perfect year. Okay?
  • 00:38:35
    You close your eyes, you fantasize.
  • 00:38:37
    Okay?
  • 00:38:38
    I I'm fantasizing a jet for you right
  • 00:38:40
    now. Um but you know, you think about
  • 00:38:43
    your perfect year and then you
  • 00:38:45
    guesstimate roughly what that year would
  • 00:38:47
    cost. Mhm. So you have this number, you
  • 00:38:50
    divide it by 0.04
  • 00:38:54
    and that represents a 4% return. So just
  • 00:38:56
    a very very conservative estimate. Mhm.
  • 00:38:59
    Um then you will end up with a number
  • 00:39:02
    and that's the number that you would
  • 00:39:03
    need to have invested making money for
  • 00:39:06
    you. Mhm. That could then support your
  • 00:39:09
    entire lifestyle without you having to
  • 00:39:11
    do any more work. So for example, if you
  • 00:39:14
    have $25 million invested Uhhuh. and
  • 00:39:17
    it's earning you a conservative 4%
  • 00:39:20
    return every year. That is a million
  • 00:39:22
    dollars in just investment returns that
  • 00:39:26
    you can live off of. So what is my [ __ ]
  • 00:39:28
    you number? You know what? We can get to
  • 00:39:31
    that. But even if I had a [ __ ] you
  • 00:39:33
    number, I wouldn't stop working. Okay.
  • 00:39:36
    What's the mindset behind that? I just
  • 00:39:38
    love to work. Like my mind is always
  • 00:39:41
    creating like different ideas. I think
  • 00:39:43
    if I did have a [ __ ] you number, it
  • 00:39:44
    would just go into a year of pure
  • 00:39:46
    creativity.
  • 00:39:47
    taking
  • 00:39:51
    this
  • 00:39:53
    kind of
  • 00:39:57
    um but I love to work like I just I
  • 00:40:00
    don't know it just it's crazy because on
  • 00:40:03
    my days off I need it but then my like
  • 00:40:06
    my mind is going crazy like I like my
  • 00:40:08
    mind I'm my mind needs to be productive
  • 00:40:10
    all the time. Do you think you're ever
  • 00:40:11
    going to retire? I think what retirement
  • 00:40:13
    looks for me is probably like pouring
  • 00:40:16
    into someone else's career. You want to
  • 00:40:18
    be a manager, a mamaager. Not a mama,
  • 00:40:20
    but maybe like mentoring or guiding
  • 00:40:23
    someone or um doing something of that
  • 00:40:26
    nature. But I can't picture myself just,
  • 00:40:28
    you know, kicking back and relaxing. I
  • 00:40:31
    could probably do that for like two
  • 00:40:32
    days. Then I'm like, where to work at?
  • 00:40:34
    Two days? Yeah. That is not long enough.
  • 00:40:37
    It's not. But I don't I I really love to
  • 00:40:39
    work. And I love when work doesn't feel
  • 00:40:41
    like work. Okay. Mhm. Does your work
  • 00:40:45
    right now feel like work? Sometimes.
  • 00:40:47
    Ooh. Yeah. So, I think my [ __ ] you
  • 00:40:51
    number would event would would lead to
  • 00:40:53
    like instead of me taking time off, I
  • 00:40:56
    would just purely enjoy all the work I'm
  • 00:40:58
    doing. You would only say yes to the
  • 00:41:00
    stuff you really want to do. Absolutely.
  • 00:41:02
    Okay. But still give me the number. [ __ ]
  • 00:41:04
    you. Number girl. I like
  • 00:41:09
    Do you need a calculator to calculate
  • 00:41:11
    this? Girl, I girl, it's a it have to be
  • 00:41:14
    a big number because I want to if I'm
  • 00:41:17
    working, I want all the resources. I
  • 00:41:18
    want to travel in comfort. Yeah, of
  • 00:41:20
    course. I want to look fabulous when I'm
  • 00:41:22
    working. I don't know. I'd have to think
  • 00:41:25
    about that number. Yeah, it's a big
  • 00:41:27
    number, guys. That's a big number,
  • 00:41:28
    though, because everything would just
  • 00:41:30
    feel so it would be like inconvenience
  • 00:41:32
    for me, you know? Very convenient for
  • 00:41:34
    me. I mean, oh, like you're saying like
  • 00:41:37
    while you're working, you want
  • 00:41:38
    everything to be very convenient for
  • 00:41:39
    you. Very convenient. Yeah, that's what
  • 00:41:40
    I meant. Thank you. I think that's
  • 00:41:42
    really smart because when it's
  • 00:41:44
    convenient for you, you can do your best
  • 00:41:46
    work, right? Absolutely. And that's what
  • 00:41:48
    we're looking for. Absolutely. That's
  • 00:41:50
    the goal. That's my fantasy and that's
  • 00:41:52
    my goal. And I'm happy that you're like
  • 00:41:54
    that we're talking about this cuz when I
  • 00:41:56
    have goals, like I said, like my
  • 00:41:58
    deadline, then I'm actually more
  • 00:41:59
    motivated to work. So, thanks. I need to
  • 00:42:02
    find my You know what? This is like
  • 00:42:04
    money therapy because when you say it to
  • 00:42:08
    me and millions of other people who are
  • 00:42:11
    probably going to watch this right now.
  • 00:42:13
    You're accountable. You've told us. I
  • 00:42:15
    told you, girl. But you helped me think
  • 00:42:17
    about it. Yeah. Yeah. That's why I like
  • 00:42:20
    being around people like you. Yeah.
  • 00:42:22
    Smart girl. Smart girls. Smart girls
  • 00:42:24
    hang out together. I like You should
  • 00:42:26
    make that merch. Should I? You are
  • 00:42:29
    always thinking about business. I told
  • 00:42:30
    you. Girl, I just said something. You're
  • 00:42:32
    like, "You should make a merch brand."
  • 00:42:33
    Like, cuz I would buy that. Yeah. Cute
  • 00:42:35
    hot pink shirt, white writing. Straight
  • 00:42:37
    to the point. Smart girls hang together.
  • 00:42:39
    Or money green. Money green. Money green
  • 00:42:41
    shirt. Some cute writing. Make a baby
  • 00:42:43
    tea. Oo, baby tea. Crop it. Crop it.
  • 00:42:45
    Baby tea. Crop it. Cute. Sell them out.
  • 00:42:51
    When I make this t-shirt, you will be
  • 00:42:53
    the first person on the PR list. Send me
  • 00:42:55
    the sample. Yeah, exactly. No, I'm not
  • 00:42:56
    on the PR list. I want the sample. you
  • 00:42:58
    want the sample before we even preview
  • 00:43:00
    it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Perfect.
  • 00:43:02
    Perfect. Um so I just kind of want to
  • 00:43:05
    wrap us up a little bit. Um as you are
  • 00:43:08
    starting to think about the future, um
  • 00:43:11
    whether that be, you know, 5 years down
  • 00:43:14
    the line, 10 years down the line, what
  • 00:43:16
    does your financially happy ever after
  • 00:43:18
    look like? Honestly, before I answer
  • 00:43:21
    that, I think this has been one of the
  • 00:43:24
    most difficult conversations for me.
  • 00:43:27
    Really? No. I' I've really enjoyed it.
  • 00:43:29
    But when you've made so much money and
  • 00:43:33
    you haven't had money before, sometimes
  • 00:43:35
    you're just so happy that you made
  • 00:43:37
    money. So, you don't really plan your
  • 00:43:39
    money. You don't really you aren't
  • 00:43:40
    eyeing your money. You just For me, it's
  • 00:43:42
    like as long as I have enough to pay my
  • 00:43:44
    bills, do this and do that, I'm good.
  • 00:43:47
    But, I am at a point in my life where
  • 00:43:50
    I've made um the wrong decisions with
  • 00:43:53
    money. I made the right decisions with
  • 00:43:55
    money. I've hired the right people to
  • 00:43:56
    manage my money. Now I'm thinking
  • 00:43:58
    different. Yeah. So when you were asking
  • 00:44:00
    me some of these questions in the back
  • 00:44:02
    of my mind I'm thinking, you know, I
  • 00:44:03
    should be thinking about that. Um
  • 00:44:05
    because I am having these types of
  • 00:44:06
    conversations now. Um so I feel like my
  • 00:44:09
    advice for people who
  • 00:44:12
    come across a large sum of money, get
  • 00:44:14
    those good people around you early cuz I
  • 00:44:16
    didn't always have like the best people
  • 00:44:17
    around me, but now I do. Um cuz it's
  • 00:44:19
    important especially if you're if you're
  • 00:44:22
    working a lot to have people who are
  • 00:44:24
    thinking about your money when you're
  • 00:44:25
    not. Over the course of your lifetime,
  • 00:44:27
    what do you think is like the biggest
  • 00:44:29
    money mistake you've made? Shopping too
  • 00:44:31
    much. Really? It's just the shopping. It
  • 00:44:33
    was the shopping, but it was like
  • 00:44:34
    therapy for me. Okay. Cuz I sometimes Oh
  • 00:44:37
    my gosh. I wouldn't even wear somebody's
  • 00:44:39
    clothes. You would just buy them. I
  • 00:44:41
    would just buy them. But I was It was a
  • 00:44:43
    toxic way of of me nurturing, you know,
  • 00:44:46
    my unhealed feelings about something.
  • 00:44:48
    So, I was shopping too much. But that's
  • 00:44:50
    why like now I barely shop. M but now
  • 00:44:53
    like I I like reward myself if I get
  • 00:44:55
    something, you know? What do you think
  • 00:44:57
    is the difference between how people who
  • 00:44:59
    have money think about it versus people
  • 00:45:00
    who don't have it think about it? For
  • 00:45:02
    people who don't have it, I feel like
  • 00:45:04
    they're they're thinking a in a very
  • 00:45:05
    singular way, like I have to get this
  • 00:45:07
    amount of money to pay for this rather
  • 00:45:09
    than when I'm when I've been around
  • 00:45:11
    people with money, there's almost a
  • 00:45:13
    lightness to the conversation. It's
  • 00:45:15
    like, how can we play with this money?
  • 00:45:16
    What can we do with this money? How can
  • 00:45:18
    we move this money? How can we invest
  • 00:45:20
    this money? Yeah. And if I spend this
  • 00:45:22
    money on something, how is it going to
  • 00:45:23
    like make me money back? That's that's
  • 00:45:26
    what I feel like the conversations are
  • 00:45:28
    are held at a at a more dynamic level.
  • 00:45:31
    Yeah. Scarcity versus abundance. Come
  • 00:45:33
    on. Yeah. Smart girls hang out together.
  • 00:45:40
    All right, guys. This is my merch
  • 00:45:41
    manager. Um, but you know, before we get
  • 00:45:44
    going, I do want to give you a chance.
  • 00:45:46
    Like, you told me you spent hours in the
  • 00:45:49
    studio. You got a lot of cool stuff
  • 00:45:50
    coming up. Yeah. Talk your talk. What do
  • 00:45:53
    we What What can we look forward to?
  • 00:45:56
    Great visuals,
  • 00:45:58
    um, bomb music, um, better shows, tours,
  • 00:46:03
    and honestly, like, there's a lot of
  • 00:46:06
    goals that I have when it comes to my
  • 00:46:08
    music. But when it comes down to it, my
  • 00:46:10
    ultimate goal is just to be happy with
  • 00:46:12
    the art that I put out. like not trying
  • 00:46:14
    to appease anything, not trying to to
  • 00:46:17
    beat something, but just purely like
  • 00:46:20
    doing art for what I did it for why I
  • 00:46:22
    did it in the first place, you know,
  • 00:46:23
    because when you're like a younger
  • 00:46:25
    artist or a new artist, you're just
  • 00:46:27
    happy to be here. Yeah. But sometimes
  • 00:46:29
    the game like, you know, it moves you
  • 00:46:31
    around and makes you feel this way.
  • 00:46:32
    People do this to you. But I want to go
  • 00:46:34
    back to just the purity of it all. Yeah.
  • 00:46:37
    Like that's my ultimate goal. You want
  • 00:46:39
    to love music like you did when you were
  • 00:46:40
    18. when I was I would say when I was
  • 00:46:44
    like 14 16. 14. Yeah. Because I started
  • 00:46:46
    writing poetry around 13 and then I
  • 00:46:49
    started writing raps around like 15 16.
  • 00:46:52
    Yeah. Yeah. Wow. Yeah. But that
  • 00:46:54
    innocence of it all. You want to love
  • 00:46:56
    the game. Like the real I want to love
  • 00:46:59
    the art cuz you know the the game the
  • 00:47:01
    game is to be play. Yeah. I don't know
  • 00:47:03
    if you love it. I think you play it but
  • 00:47:05
    I don't think you love it.
  • 00:47:08
    Yeah. You got to be smart with the game.
  • 00:47:10
    with art, you can just, you know, you
  • 00:47:11
    can just love it. Yeah. And I think
  • 00:47:14
    that's a perfect way for us to end.
  • 00:47:15
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  • 00:47:17
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