The Surprising Truth About Making Babies Late | Reisa Pollard | TEDxVancouver

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الملخص

TLDRA woman narrates her journey of attempting to conceive later in life, highlighting the challenges associated with fertility. Using the "gumball machine" analogy, she explains how women's egg supply diminishes with age, decreasing the likelihood of conception. Despite being a professional woman who postponed motherhood, she was surprised by the fertility hurdles, including miscarriages and failed IVF attempts. The narrative underscores the societal trend of delayed childbirth and the silent struggles many face, emphasizing the importance of sharing these experiences and better fertility education. The speaker ultimately finds success through persistent efforts, despite numerous setbacks, and underscores the emotional toll of the process.

الوجبات الجاهزة

  • 🤔 Women are born with a finite number of eggs, decreasing with age.
  • 👶 The success rate of conceiving with older eggs is low.
  • 📊 30-something women are having more babies than those in their 20s.
  • ⏳ Egg freezing can offer more options for future family planning.
  • 💔 Miscarriages are emotionally challenging and stigmatized.
  • 🧬 Men continue to produce sperm daily but face infertility too.
  • 🔄 Fertility treatments involve emotional and physical challenges.
  • 🛤️ Misconceptions about easy fertility solutions can mislead people.
  • 💭 Sharing fertility struggles can reduce stigma and provide support.
  • 💪 Persistence in facing fertility challenges shows resilience.

الجدول الزمني

  • 00:00:00 - 00:05:00

    The speaker uses the metaphor of a gumball machine to explain that women are born with a finite number of eggs, which decrease and age over time, leading to reduced fertility as they get older. This is contrasted with men, who produce sperm continuously. The speaker highlights the lack of education about fertility issues and the shift in societal norms where more women in their 30s are having children compared to women in their 20s. Companies are now offering egg freezing as an option to pause the biological clock for those considering future family planning.

  • 00:05:00 - 00:10:00

    The speaker shares her personal journey of realizing her fertility challenges at age 40 after a series of miscarriages. Initially unaware of fertility issues, she assumed having children would be straightforward, even expecting solutions through financial means. Her experience unveiled misconceptions and silence around delayed childbirth challenges. After further miscarriages and attempts at IVF, including one successful pregnancy, she faced both societal criticism and personal grief. The determination led to exploring options like egg donors, highlighting the emotional and logistical complexities involved in such decisions.

  • 00:10:00 - 00:18:13

    After numerous attempts and miscarriages, the speaker naturally conceives her second child at 46, referring to it as a "spontaneous pregnancy." She talks about the wider, current opportunities for diverse family structures and treatments available, though noting a societal taboo in openly discussing fertility challenges. She emphasizes the importance of sharing these experiences to help others feel less isolated and more informed, advocating for comprehensive fertility education to enable women to make informed decisions about their reproductive futures, regardless of their personal choices regarding having children.

الخريطة الذهنية

Mind Map

الأسئلة الشائعة

  • What is the gumball analogy used for?

    The gumball analogy illustrates a woman's finite supply of eggs, which diminishes as she ages.

  • Why can delayed childbirth be challenging for women?

    Delayed childbirth can be challenging due to decreased fertility and increased risks of miscarriages as women age.

  • What are some misconceptions about fertility?

    Many people believe that fertility treatments can easily solve age-related infertility, which is not always the case.

  • How can women increase their chances of conception later in life?

    Women can increase their chances by freezing their eggs if they plan to conceive later.

  • What was one woman's personal experience with miscarriages and fertility treatment?

    The speaker experienced multiple miscarriages and went through IVF and egg donation to conceive.

  • What societal changes are affecting childbirth trends?

    More 30-something women are having babies compared to women in their 20s, reflecting lifestyle shifts.

  • What is the role of men in fertility issues?

    Men can also be responsible for infertility; despite producing sperm daily, there can still be issues.

  • What emotions are involved in experiencing miscarriages?

    Miscarriages can lead to deep feelings of grief, failure, and emotional and physical exhaustion.

  • How does fertility treatment impact mental health?

    Fertility treatments can cause significant stress, emotional swings, and impact mental well-being.

  • Why is it important to talk about fertility challenges?

    Sharing fertility experiences can reduce stigma, help others feel less isolated, and inform reproductive choices.

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    [Music]
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    [Applause]
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    [Music]
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    now I want you to picture a gumball
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    machine imagine that machine has ovaries
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    and the gumballs as eggs
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    when a woman is born that gumball
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    machine is full it has all the gumballs
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    she'll never have for her entire life
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    as she gets older that gumball supply
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    starts to diminish and the leftover
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    gumballs are getting a little stale by
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    40 that supply is getting really low and
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    by 40 for any stragglers left there well
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    past their prime
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    the chances of turning one of those
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    gumballs into a baby even with in vitro
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    fertilization is less than 2% now if
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    you're an educated professional woman it
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    was used to accomplishing anything she
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    sets them to accomplish this news can
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    come as quite a shock yes it Kim
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    especially keep teeth good care of
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    yourself and you know you think you
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    still got into maybe your mattress 40 is
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    the new 30 and all that yep but here's
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    the thing your eggs don't subscribe to
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    that motto they're not in there doing
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    Botox
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    yes No those legs are just sitting in
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    that gumball machine aging the exact
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    same way your great-grandmother's legs
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    two men on the other hand are producing
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    about two hundred and nineteen million
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    fresh sperm every day so I had to do the
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    math that's about 525 billion swimmers
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    in a lifetime ironically men are still
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    often the culprit when it comes to
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    infertility I was dumbfounded when I
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    heard all this names I mean my first
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    thought was why didn't I know this
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    why wasn't I taught this about fertility
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    and sex ed class or from my family
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    doctor with this countdown to double
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    annihilation I learned some other
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    surprising facts at the same time for
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    the first time ever
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    30-something women are having more
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    babies than their 20-something
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    counterparts that means young moms
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    they're the outliers now if you're 40
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    and you're thinking about having a
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    family even in the distant future under
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    40 Asians say if you're under 40 and
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    thinking about having a family in the
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    future you can stop on their own
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    biological clock by freezing your eggs
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    if you have the funds or you work for
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    companies like Apple or Facebook or
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    Google who offer this you can add here
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    is extracted when they're fresh and dewy
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    and you can put your little gumball on
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    ice until you're ready to have kids for
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    the first part of my life I followed the
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    rules I was a good kid it was after
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    university that I went a bit sideways
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    when my friends were building careers
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    are having the families that I was off I
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    was traveling the world partying like a
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    rock stars falling in and out of love
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    and I was doing the whole host of jobs I
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    was trying to find that thing
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    that career that would define me that
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    would make me as something I worked as a
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    salesperson a property manager a retail
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    furniture store manager an assistant
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    librarian Anna marijuana grow up
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    consultant
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    at 32 though I finally found my calling
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    I was passionate about interior design I
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    loved it so everything else took a
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    backseat as like solely focused on
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    making a successful business out of it I
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    had never really thought about my age
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    before I mean why would I
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    I don't really fight much about kids
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    either I thought that they would fit
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    into my future
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    not as part of my present I got married
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    at 40 to a guy's seven years different
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    than me and snapped that was it I wanted
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    them so I set out to have a family but I
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    was clueless about fertility I knew only
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    all the ways not to have one now I had
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    to figure out
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    I honestly thought my chances of having
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    a kid were the same as the 25 volts I
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    thought having a baby must be guarantee
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    by no I mean even if I did have some
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    sort of age-related problem I figured
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    that all I had to do is throw money at
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    it well I was in for a really steep
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    learning curve
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    what I discovered opened my eyes about
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    the misconceptions regarding delayed
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    childbirth that there is a huge
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    conspiracy of silence about the
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    challenges and there's a gap between
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    what we perceive on the real event of
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    Rome the same year we got married I had
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    my first miscarriage we had told
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    everyone who would listen that we were
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    pregnant we prepped we planned talked
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    about baby names we had the room ready
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    and then we went for a routine
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    ultrasound and found out there was no
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    heartbeat
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    oh listen he was switched chattering it
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    was the first time I had to reflect on
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    decisions I had made in my life I was no
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    longer confident that my body was gonna
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    do the right thing so I made an
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    appointment and the fertility clinic I
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    was already pregnant but I didn't know
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    it yet so when I went in and then they
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    gave me the test results that were
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    positive I was like wow that was easy
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    you guys are good
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    I carried that pregnancy to term and I
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    had a healthy baby boy from the first
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    moment I held him in my arms oh I knew
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    oh no I want another one
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    any joy or accomplishment I have felt in
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    business was nothing compared to this
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    I was now 42 not so the comments started
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    are you crazy you want another one
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    you want to be the oldest moments soccer
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    practice or you're going to be going
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    into diapers when your kids are getting
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    out of them secretly I thought oh just
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    one more so we kept trying and the
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    following April I got pregnant together
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    we anxiously waited until those 12 weeks
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    are up and then we told people the good
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    news at 12 weeks and two days I have my
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    second miscarriage all I could think
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    about was the embarrassment of having to
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    her not retract our announcement to
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    people in November of the same year
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    I've got pregnant again but before the
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    year was over I would have my third
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    miscarriage
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    it sucks as much as the first two but at
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    least this time we kept things totally
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    under wraps so it was just my husband
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    and I have a brief privately over the
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    Christmas holidays with a new year
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    brings new hope and the following
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    February I thought oh this is it when I
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    confirm my suspicions that I was
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    pregnant together on my 44th birthday my
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    present was my fourth miscarriage
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    oh my grief was no twofold I was
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    grieving the loss of the pregnancy and I
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    was grieving the loss of my usefulness I
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    wondered if I was gonna pay the ultimate
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    price for inadvertently putting my
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    career ahead of a family was it gonna
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    end with failure or was my tenacity and
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    risk tolerance that I learned in
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    business gonna help me persevere either
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    way a baby seemed like in
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    a mountable feed I went back to the
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    fertility clinic and despite being told
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    the odds I want the in vitro know these
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    were odds for a long shot like a
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    Powerball lottery longshot I was told
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    but to me a long shot was better than no
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    shot the way IVF works is that you pump
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    yourself up full of drugs by giving
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    yourself Ramon injection every day oh
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    yeah this causes a mood swings that any
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    husband would find completely adorable
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    Mike stood by while I laughed at things
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    that were really sad and I tried it
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    things were that that were funny oh and
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    his favorite was my nightly left it
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    cried at the same time for no reason
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    so about through that after ten days
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    they harvest your eggs and fertilize
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    them with his sperm after that it's
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    survival of the fittest the strongest
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    one makes the cut and the rest are
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    discarded or frozen incredibly I got
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    pregnant with IVF on my first try an
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    amazing part was is normally they
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    harvest about six to twelve eggs but
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    with me they could only find one and it
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    took things were looking good
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    we had a heartbeat we made it past the
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    first round the testing we felt
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    confident enough to tell people the good
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    news then we went for more tests and
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    found out there was chromosomal issues
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    before we had time to react the
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    heartbeat vanished and that was that the
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    miracle baby turned into miscarriage
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    number five let me tell you thinking
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    that you're pregnant one minute and
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    finding out that you're not the next is
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    a real mindfuck it's like you're trying
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    to process the news but you can't
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    because your body still feels pregnant
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    you're tired you're puffy your boobs
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    still hurt it's all you can do just to
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    try to figure out how to grieve the hope
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    a baby you don't feel titled to breathe
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    openly that's for sure you think that
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    this would be the end of the road you
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    really would but no there was no
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    stopping me now I was like chasing the
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    dragon how did you did that baby fix it
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    was turning out to be the biggest
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    challenge of my entire life
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    so now I decided to go with an egg donor
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    room
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    I'll let me tell you this is surreal if
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    you go online shopping for what you hope
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    will be your next annoying teenager for
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    anonymity you click through pictures of
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    potential donors as children I was told
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    that the good eggs go fast so when you
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    find one you like you have to put it in
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    a shopping cart
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    then you click you click checkout and
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    pay and they send it in the mail as it
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    would I feel like I was doing some
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    jeweler in the black market I swear this
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    was totally legit for my husband the egg
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    donor was the limit he didn't want to
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    look at little girls and Christmas
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    dresses to find out who's gonna be
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    having his next childhood
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    no you just left out firm to me so I
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    picked one I went through the whole drug
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    prep again but I figured once they've
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    impregnated me that means on that last
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    step I went for the implantation that
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    was easy it went well
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    I waited for the call no days how could
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    this be possible when the getting
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    pregnant part wasn't even my issue I had
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    never felt like I'd accepted defeat
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    before but I knew this was it I'm now 45
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    I'm five miscarriages deep I wouldn't
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    even be able to calculate the odds but I
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    know that they're way less than 1% we
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    had invested over fifty thousand dollars
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    I was physically and mentally exhausted
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    and my husband well he was done he
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    gently told me we had to let it go
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    I knew we did but I couldn't because I
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    just had this profound feeling of
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    failure with that said I couldn't fear
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    it anyway to move forward so I gave
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    myself one month I wallow work through
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    it and I would put the whole thing
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    behind me and I'd move on then I got a
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    surprise call from the clinic it turns
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    out that my donor was showing a very low
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    rate of return what this is normally
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    conversation that I would have over
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    financial adviser
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    this is a business and this is how they
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    talk so they were suggesting that I did
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    it do-over they would pay most of the
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    costs and pay for the egg donor they
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    would just have a few costs I feel like
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    I was even being given like this next
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    lottery ticket I told my husband and he
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    was like really really oh but he did try
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    to talk me out of it no I went through
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    the whole procedure again I went online
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    and did the drugs I scheduled the
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    implantation baby three days before that
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    day arrived somewhere somebody in the
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    world was having a miscarriage with my
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    same donor egg I would have to wait
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    until they did an autopsy on the fetus
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    to rule out genetic issues another
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    waiting game three weeks later we got
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    the obviously er we're good to go
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    did the whole hormone travelling role
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    again or at least I was trying to but I
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    had to wait for my period to common it
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    just wouldn't come so I called the
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    clinic to explain my predicament
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    the receptionist she told me I should
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    take a pregnancy test first seriously I
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    was like what is this some sort of like
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    fertility clinic joke I felt like
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    punching her in the face you know
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    I couldn't believe I casually do this
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    pee test and I look at it have my eyes
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    bug out of my head and not because I'm
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    ecstatic no no I am way too scarred and
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    jaded to be the least bit excited what
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    I'm thinking is holy [ __ ] now I have to
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    have a whole miscarriage again before
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    they can even find this stupid donor egg
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    but I didn't have a miscarriage at 3-6 I
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    naturally had my second beautiful baby
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    boy
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    [Applause]
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    it is the life weird I mean a freak
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    Tillett II clinics term for a natural
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    pregnancy is a spontaneous one well I
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    thought this was hilarious as if
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    anything about my pregnancy ended
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    spontaneously
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    I just thought through six years seven
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    pregnancies five miscarriages a round of
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    in the vitro two donor eggs and a couple
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    of lucky rules of the dice to win this
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    baby lively so today there isn't no
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    longer just one window or one way to
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    have kids but that doesn't mean it's
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    easy many women are going to risk using
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    to have kids later in life for the hope
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    of having at all IVF is now a common
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    fertility treatment and more kids are
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    being hatched with donor eggs or
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    surrogates every day it's equal
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    opportunity you can be gay straight
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    single married as the price of freezing
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    eggs come down and more businesses are
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    gonna offer it it gives window women a
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    much wider window of opportunity to
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    start a career before the family but
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    despite all this there's a huge taboo
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    that exists around talking about this
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    stuff many women aren't comfortable
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    telling anybody even close friends and
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    families what they went through I talked
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    to a fertility doctor who's waiting room
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    is jammed with women like me and she
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    told me that most of our patients are
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    reticent to talk openly they're ecstatic
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    with the results but they're still only
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    willing to do an anonymous online review
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    doesn't that seem kind of crazy I mean I
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    for one I'd like to see that change we
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    need to start sharing our stories all of
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    them it's true I wouldn't be standing
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    here if I hadn't beat the odds but I am
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    here and I'm baring my soul because
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    along the way
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    some valuable insights the more were
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    able to talk openly about our experience
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    the more comfortable will be people will
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    be with the challenges that we face
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    whether its assistance with conceiving
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    having a miscarriage or maybe five it's
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    not something to be ashamed of it's part
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    of the journey and you're not alone the
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    more we understand about fertility the
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    more we can make timely informed choices
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    even if your choice is not to have kids
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    but if you have any inkling any at all
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    then you might want them in the future
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    educate yourself because nobody is gonna
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    do it for you we should be teaching
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    fertility and adolescence and continue
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    in adulthood not everyone wins but there
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    are lots of ways of increasing your odds
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    your odds at winning that lottery with
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    the ultimate price thank
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    [Applause]
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    [Applause]
الوسوم
  • fertility
  • egg freezing
  • miscarriage
  • IVF
  • delayed motherhood
  • fertility education
  • emotional journey
  • egg donation
  • reproductive health
  • societal trends