Extended interview: Green Day

00:25:01
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVCvgX5sWEc

الملخص

TLDRDie Band reflektiert über ihre Zeit an einem ikonischen Veranstaltungsort, der für ihre musikalische Entwicklung entscheidend war. Sie sprechen über die Wichtigkeit von Gemeinschaft und Unabhängigkeit und wie dieser Ort sie beeinflusst hat. Obwohl sie zeitweise von der Bühne dort verbannt wurden wegen ihrer Verbindung mit einem großen Plattenlabel, betrachten sie den Ort als Sprungbrett für viele Künstler. Die Band entwickelte mit der Zeit ihren Klang weiter, was sich in ihren Alben widerspiegelt. Besonders bedeutsam sind die bevorstehenden Jubiläen zweier Alben, die großen Einfluss auf ihre Karriere hatten. Diese Jubiläen feiern sie mit einer Tour, auf der sie diese Alben in ihrer Gesamtheit spielen. Sie betonen, dass Musik für sie eine lebenslange Leidenschaft ist, die nie erlischt, und dass sie weiterhin inspiriert Musik machen.

الوجبات الجاهزة

  • 🎸 Der Veranstaltungsort hat seit den 80ern wenig geändert.
  • 🎨 Eine markante Wandmalerei ist seitdem vorhanden.
  • 🏀 Der Basketballplatz war schon immer da.
  • 🤝 Der Ort lehrte Gemeinschaft und Eigenständigkeit.
  • 🎥 Es gibt eine Doku über die lokale Musikszene.
  • 🎶 Ein neues Album verbindet alte Themen neu.
  • 📅 Jubiläum der Alben 'Dookie' und 'American Idiot'.
  • 🎤 Musik ist eine Lebensaufgabe der Band.
  • 🚫 Die Band war von der Location verbannt wegen eines Major-Labels.
  • 🎵 Ein neuer Song behandelt aktuelle amerikanische Themen.

الجدول الزمني

  • 00:00:00 - 00:05:00

    In diesem Video sprechen die Künstler über ihre Erinnerungen und Erlebnisse mit einem Veranstaltungsort, den sie zur Zeit ihrer frühen Karriere häufig besuchten. Sie reflektieren über das Gemeinschaftsgefühl und die DIY-Kultur, die sie dort kennengelernt haben, sowie die bedeutende Rolle, die der Ort in ihrer persönlichen und künstlerischen Entwicklung gespielt hat. Der Veranstaltungsort war ein zentraler Punkt in ihrer Jugend, an dem sie lernten, unabhängig Dinge zu organisieren und sich selbst zu verwirklichen. Es wird auch erwähnt, dass der Ort trotz Veränderungen über die Jahre seinen ursprünglichen Spirit bewahrt hat.

  • 00:05:00 - 00:10:00

    Die Künstler reflektieren über die Bedeutung von Jubiläen und der Rückblick auf ihre Alben American Idiot und Dookie. Sie empfinden Dankbarkeit und Demut dafür, wie lange sie bereits Musik machen und wie sie sich dabei entwickelt haben. Diese Alben markieren wichtige Etappen in ihrer Karriere und bieten die Möglichkeit, sowohl in die Vergangenheit zu schauen als auch die kontinuierliche Entwicklung ihrer Musik zu würdigen. Der Akt des Musikschaffens wird als ständiges Streben nach künstlerischem Ausdruck und persönlichem Wachstum beschrieben.

  • 00:10:00 - 00:15:00

    Es wird erklärt, wie sie trotz des Erfolgs ihrer Alben stets danach strebten, sich zu verbessern und ihren Sound zu erweitern. Der Prozess des Songwritings wird als eine Verbindung von Melodie und persönlicher Ausdruck beschrieben, bei dem Emotionen und alltägliche Erfahrungen in Musik verwandelt werden. Auch wird darauf eingegangen, wie sich das Familienleben auf ihre Musik ausgewirkt hat und welche Herausforderungen und Erkenntnisse sie dadurch gewonnen haben. Der kreative Prozess wird als etwas beschrieben, das sowohl intuitiv als auch bewusst gesteuert wird.

  • 00:15:00 - 00:25:01

    Die Musiker sprechen über die Herausforderungen und Chancen der Mainstream-Karriere und reflektieren die Entscheidungen, die sie getroffen haben, um ein breiteres Publikum zu erreichen, ohne ihre Wurzeln zu verlieren. Sie beschreiben die Produktionserfahrungen und die Bedeutung, sich selbst treu zu bleiben, trotz der Erwartung anderer. Sie heben hervor, wie wichtig es ihnen ist, mit ihrer Musik eine Botschaft zu vermitteln und gesellschaftliche Themen und persönliche Erfahrungen in ihren Songs zu adressieren. Sie schätzen die Möglichkeit, ihre Musik einem großen Publikum zu präsentieren und dabei ihre künstlerischen Ideale zu wahren.

اعرض المزيد

الخريطة الذهنية

Mind Map

الأسئلة الشائعة

  • Wie lange gibt es diesen Veranstaltungsort schon?

    Der Veranstaltungsort wird seit über 30 Jahren von Freiwilligen betrieben und hat vielen Künstlern als Sprungbrett gedient.

  • Warum durfte die Band nicht mehr an dem Veranstaltungsort spielen?

    Die Band durfte vorübergehend nicht dort spielen, weil sie bei einem großen Label unter Vertrag standen.

  • Was hat die Band von dem Veranstaltungsort gelernt?

    Die Band lernte dort Gemeinschaft, Eigenständigkeit und Vertrauen in andere.

  • Gibt es einen Film über die Musikszene rund um diesen Veranstaltungsort?

    Es wurde eine Dokumentation über die dortige Musikszene erstellt.

  • Was bedeutet es für die Band, ihre alten Alben bei Jubiläen zu spielen?

    Die Vergangenheit zu ehren und die kontinuierliche Entwicklung der Band.

  • Warum macht die Band auch nach all den Jahren noch Musik?

    Musikmachen gibt ihnen einen Sinn und ist eine natürliche Instinkthandlung.

  • Wie entsteht ein Song der Band?

    Das Schreiben von Musik beginnt oft mit einer Melodie, die zu einem Gefühl oder einem thematischen Inhalt passt.

  • Wie verbindet die Band Melodie und thematische Inhalte?

    Sie verwenden die Melodien oft als Ausgangspunkt, um textliche Themen wie Unsicherheiten und das aktuelle Leben zu erforschen.

  • Worum geht es in dem neuen Song 'The American Dream Is Killing Me'?

    Es geht um das Auf und Ab in der Nüchternheit und die Herausforderungen, die damit verbunden sind.

  • Was sind die zukünftigen Tourpläne der Band?

    Sie planen eine Tour, auf der sie zwei ihrer bedeutendsten Alben komplett spielen werden.

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    how long has it been since you've been
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    here um
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    we Bas we played here right after um we
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    were um in the Rock and Roll Hall of
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    Fame oh okay so we uh we asked we did a
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    benefit for um it was a house that
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    burned down that was like uh that did uh
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    did sort of underground press and all
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    that so does this does this look pretty
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    much the way it did way back in the late
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    ' 80s
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    um Prett much pretty much yeah yeah this
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    wall has been painted over about 10,000
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    times you know names and there's a
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    painting up there that's been there the
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    like the entire time it's like a a
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    monster with a looks like a tornado in
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    in its mouth that's been there the
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    basketball Court's always been there has
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    your original name been there for we
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    painted that there when we did a demo
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    here in
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    88 wow yeah
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    so yeah so the vibe is pretty much the
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    same yeah I mean it's young people
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    putting it all
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    volunteer um keeping the place open it's
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    been open for 30 plus years now what was
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    it when did you first play here I we
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    played here I think it was like October
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    1988 was the first time we played here
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    yeah yeah wow so we're like a year after
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    it opened pretty much yeah we I mean
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    what we started coming to shows here
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    Trey played here with his band it's like
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    the third show or something really yeah
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    wow yeah he was when he he was in the
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    Lookouts I like just just tall and
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    amazing amazing people of like come here
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    as kids well not just come here but like
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    we've had they've they like musicians
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    artists filmmakers you name it that have
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    gone on to do amazing things um were
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    part of this community so it's just just
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    really cool to you know have a place
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    like this in any community that can
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    teach people or let a space for where
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    kids could figure out how to do things
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    themselves yeah what did it mean for you
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    guys to play here back then like playing
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    Mecca yeah this was might as well have
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    been playing sha Stadium work you know
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    like you were actually like banned here
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    for a from here for a while though right
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    yeah we couldn't play anymore because we
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    signed to um a major label and there's
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    this uh a kind of a a rule of no major
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    label bands everything's got to be Indie
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    DIY why yeah did that feel kind of weird
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    yeah it was heartbreaking was it yeah
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    yeah it was just like kind of
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    lost like a like your home you know what
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    would you say you learned
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    here Community how to do things yourself
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    you know the importance of um knowing
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    you trusting in the people around you
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    and what is possible yeah you know yeah
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    no racism no sexism no homophobia it's
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    it's right there on the door yeah it
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    always has been yeah would this place
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    have been just packed to the gills I had
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    seen yeah for Green Day shows you know
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    eventually I mean sometime it was always
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    up and down it all yeah like sometimes
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    there's 20 people in the room yeah I
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    mean I've seen some of the best shows
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    I've ever seen in my life here yeah you
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    know to I mean Operation Ivy snfu and
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    Neurosis Neurosis you know a lot of you
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    know Crim Shrine all the like the that
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    was this was our scene you know it was
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    like we didn't
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    we didn't come from late
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    1977 stuff and we didn't come you know
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    we we didn't wasn't cbgbs for us it
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    wasn't like what with hardcore in the
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    early 80s it was like it was this was
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    our scene these was our bands you know
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    that we we grew up with it was
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    documented locally but never really out
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    there and a few years ago a lot of the
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    people from the scene um along with our
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    help uh we were able to make a Doc a
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    documentary about it called turn it
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    around and it's um really tells about
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    our scene and where it starts where it
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    comes from and what it meant to the
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    people here so what did it what did it
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    mean to be part of the community that
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    kind of created the music that came out
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    of
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    here yeah we were learning and we were
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    just kids you know learning so we were
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    taking our cues from people who were
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    already pointing in the right direction
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    yeah you know and um and really that's
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    what Billy is saying you know we in high
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    school I wasn't learning anything you
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    know um we were a lot of a lot of people
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    here were the kids were here were latch
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    key kids and stuff and so we learned
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    Community Family values you know but
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    also work I learned my short game right
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    over there on the basketball
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    court I'm gonna go in the
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    bathroom yeah it's so funny on the the
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    urinal there's a Green Day tribute band
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    they're called not Green
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    [Laughter]
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    Day so you guys have two major
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    anniversaries and a new album which in
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    just in reading it I was like I was
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    really upset to honestly that the Duke
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    he like 30 years old now you having a a
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    more acute sense of time with these
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    anniversaries facing you I don't know
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    like with like playing American Idiot
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    and and playing dookie it's like a it's
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    kind of honoring your past you know um
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    but yeah sometimes I I um my memories
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    can be pretty vivid you know obviously
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    going through Gilman Street and then uh
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    making dookie you know being on tour and
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    then 10 years later it's American Idiot
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    you know but I think it's like we've
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    just been able to always be making music
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    for so long it just kind of keeps you
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    know it's just a constant journal and
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    journey you in some respects you've
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    reinvented yourselves but everything
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    you've done has reflected on what you've
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    done before it feels like to me you know
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    I don't know what it feels like to you
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    yeah that that sounds about right I mean
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    I I think it's an evolution right yeah I
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    think saviors is
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    definitely a product of everything we've
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    learned throughout our entire career um
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    you know and to have these two massive
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    record uh anniversaries at the same time
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    is like it's just it's it's interesting
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    it's also you know kind of humbling too
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    it's like wow what a great career we've
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    had it is nice to be able to stop and
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    look back yeah I just appreciate the
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    moment but also the past moments as well
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    what makes you want to make music at
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    this point in your careers or is that
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    ever
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    present I mean for me making music um
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    and being in a band it gives me a sense
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    of purpose yeah for one thing it's all
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    I've done since I was 5 years old yeah
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    and I mean I get into other stuff it's
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    like uh constantly just sort of the
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    thought of just like you know I dream
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    and Melody and and Concepts and lyrics
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    and things like that so I I just keep on
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    you know if there's a m there I keep
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    following it down yeah with us like
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    making music is more of a natural
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    instinct than say
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    bathing true story true story Mike what
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    about you I'm just
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    curious I mean I think Billy's right
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    it's it's purpose you know it's
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    also some I mean like writing a great
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    record you just know that's going to be
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    around forever and we've always the
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    commonality we all have is that we all
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    know that this is the most important
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    thing we're ever going to do is
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    creatively we're going to leave
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    something that's going to out lust us
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    yeah that has weight to it so we try to
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    honor that and we it's always been
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    really important to us to be make
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    something you know everybody wants to
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    leave a mark right so I think we're
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    Natural Born Thrill Seekers you know
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    it's like you know instead of you know
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    jumping out of airplanes we play in
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    front of 60,000 people yeah that's still
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    a thrill mhm this is your 14th album
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    which is like also pretty amazing
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    um was what was that no I it's just
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    crazy to think that it's been we've been
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    we've made 14 albums I think that's what
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    I mean where it's like we we just keep
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    going and then all of a sudden someone
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    will point something out and then you
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    know every record is an an era of your
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    life yeah but a lot of bands get stuck
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    you know at a certain point going like
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    what have I got to say what am I going
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    to say now that's
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    natural doesn't seem to have happen to
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    you for me writing lyrics is always
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    trying to find the things and the
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    insecurities the vulnerabilities and you
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    know the looking at your viewpoints or
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    whatever of the world it's having the
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    guts to admit to yourself the things
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    that you won't uh you don't normally
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    admit to yourself and that's what like
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    music is and writing songs is for me MH
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    what is that process
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    like the process for me starts in my
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    brain with Melody yeah and just you know
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    it it there's not much has changed just
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    sitting around playing my guitar and
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    then something clicks I guess my
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    question is how do you take the melody
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    and marry it to whatever insecurity
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    you're going to deal with if that's what
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    you're talking about well sometimes the
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    the The Melodies and the songs like they
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    just sort of give way to like the
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    feeling and matching the feeling to what
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    the music is like conveying on the new
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    record there's a song like um Corvette
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    Summer which is kind of a song about
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    being like
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    very you know something very simple like
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    I you know I I just want to listen to
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    rock and roll and uh and and then
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    there's other things like the American
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    dream is killing me yeah the melody and
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    lyrics just all came out at one time
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    they did it yeah it's just uh and
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    there's no really explaining it it just
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    does MH where do you think it came from
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    I think that that song is just sort of
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    about the uh the stress and anxiety of
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    Living in America right now and being an
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    American and sort of How It's you're hit
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    every single day with the algorithm
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    of uh chaos yeah and and whatever is
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    happening in our country at the time you
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    know
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    politics uh you know the culture I mean
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    I'm thinking about that because there's
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    a song on the album father to a son yeah
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    um which which has a couple of really
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    great lines in it yeah I forget the one
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    about love and anger
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    yeah um um I never thought I never knew
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    a love could be like stronger than anger
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    like for me being a father was on the
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    job training like I didn't know
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    everything I did back then was impulsive
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    you know is for everybody pretty much I
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    think yeah yeah you know I got it's like
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    after dookie um I was
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    married just three months after the
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    record came out you know to Adrien and
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    then found out the day after our
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    marriage the day we got married that we
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    were having a kid and do you think
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    that's changed you musically in any
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    way oh yeah being a parent makes
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    everything more apparent you know yeah
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    well I mean for us being in a band and
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    stuff like that like sleep deprivation
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    we were already used to so that part of
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    parenting was wasn't that bad but uh
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    where where parenting helps probably is
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    you get that Dad strength you know just
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    carrying kids and strollers and all the
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    the crap that comes with the children
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    and you get this extra layer of of of
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    beef and so now me personally I hit
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    harder now yeah we went straight from
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    putting out Doogie to cleaning up
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    Doogie for the anniversary of Doogie did
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    you go back and listen to sort of the
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    original
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    demos yeah I had cassettes that uh demos
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    that we had made on a Ford track that
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    had been sitting around for for
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    preserved for 30 years yeah what did
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    what did you hear when you listened to
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    him I heard that we knew exactly what we
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    wanted yeah you know we went to Trey's
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    parents place where it was they lived up
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    lived up in the woods up in Menino
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    County yeah and um we record you know we
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    I was like I just brought my for track
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    with me and then we you know made these
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    demos and it was just kind of like we
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    wanted to be prepared but like when I
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    look back on it now I was like wow we
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    knew what we wanted you know but it was
  • 00:12:31
    just in a more of a low-fi kind of way
  • 00:12:34
    yeah some of that have some of that had
  • 00:12:36
    Evolution to it too you could see some
  • 00:12:38
    lyrical changes mhm you know you could
  • 00:12:41
    see oh that was a different Bridge or
  • 00:12:43
    whatever
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    but we you know as the demos progressed
  • 00:12:47
    right before it went in like Billy said
  • 00:12:48
    we wanted to be prepared that's that was
  • 00:12:50
    a big studio and we didn't want to waste
  • 00:12:51
    time you know or money yeah be before
  • 00:12:53
    that like you know to record a record
  • 00:12:56
    you had like a day so you'd better
  • 00:12:59
    rehearsed your your material knew
  • 00:13:00
    exactly yeah what you wanted to do so we
  • 00:13:03
    had rehearsed that and we came into
  • 00:13:06
    fantasy and then we kind of we didn't
  • 00:13:08
    have to like make things up so we're
  • 00:13:09
    kind of like soaking it up like oh what
  • 00:13:11
    does this do what does this do what and
  • 00:13:13
    I feel like we learned a ton on that you
  • 00:13:16
    know you with big 2in tape and and the
  • 00:13:19
    big lot of knobs a lot of lights yeah so
  • 00:13:22
    we were kind of like what's that what's
  • 00:13:23
    that what's that bigger room and we
  • 00:13:26
    didn't have to like really think about
  • 00:13:27
    like oh what's the song structure we
  • 00:13:29
    knew how to play the songs yeah at that
  • 00:13:31
    point were you thinking the stakes were
  • 00:13:32
    pretty high yeah we went in with just
  • 00:13:36
    like to go in and make the best record
  • 00:13:39
    that we possibly could yeah um you know
  • 00:13:42
    we we took a chance basically and we
  • 00:13:45
    knew that it was going to be a Breaking
  • 00:13:47
    Point from like what where we were at
  • 00:13:50
    when we were playing places like Gilman
  • 00:13:51
    Street yeah and then suddenly going into
  • 00:13:54
    a different world you know like um what
  • 00:13:57
    was what was the world you were going
  • 00:13:58
    into I mean the the way you saw it I saw
  • 00:14:00
    it as going into the main the
  • 00:14:03
    possibility of going into the mainstream
  • 00:14:05
    and which we've always flown under the
  • 00:14:08
    radar and we were a part of an like a
  • 00:14:11
    network of um people booking shows and
  • 00:14:15
    VFW Halls and backyards and garages all
  • 00:14:18
    throughout the country and we could play
  • 00:14:21
    you know anywhere from 200 to 500 people
  • 00:14:24
    but nobody knew that like in the
  • 00:14:26
    mainstream it wasn't like Spin Magazine
  • 00:14:28
    was covering us or like so when we came
  • 00:14:31
    out we had a pretty big following
  • 00:14:34
    already so it kind of took a lot of
  • 00:14:36
    people off guard we were like who are
  • 00:14:38
    these guys you know yeah were you
  • 00:14:41
    reaching for something at that point I
  • 00:14:43
    me we were trying to make a we were
  • 00:14:45
    trying to make a one a great record
  • 00:14:49
    something that sounded like us but in a
  • 00:14:51
    bigger sound yeah there was really no
  • 00:14:53
    looking back we were kind of outgrowing
  • 00:14:55
    a lot of the small clubs we were playing
  • 00:14:56
    in and you know we C I didn't want to go
  • 00:14:58
    back to work work for UPS again we want
  • 00:15:00
    flip Burgers um yeah so we wanted to
  • 00:15:03
    look forward and and do what we
  • 00:15:07
    basically at that point felt like we
  • 00:15:08
    were put on this Earth to do MH I wanted
  • 00:15:10
    to hear us on the radio yeah what did it
  • 00:15:12
    feel like it felt like I wanted to keep
  • 00:15:15
    hearing us on the
  • 00:15:17
    radio as soon as it was over it's like
  • 00:15:20
    okay well now what I I want to hear it
  • 00:15:23
    again like yeah it was it's you know
  • 00:15:25
    it's like crack yeah Rob cavalo um you
  • 00:15:29
    know producing dookie is like he had
  • 00:15:31
    done this band called The muffs he had
  • 00:15:33
    he he knew how to make great guitar
  • 00:15:35
    sounds and stuff and bigger sounds I
  • 00:15:37
    just remember really wanting to hear our
  • 00:15:39
    band like our song sound that big yeah
  • 00:15:42
    you know because it always been kind of
  • 00:15:44
    lowii before because we just couldn't
  • 00:15:45
    afford to you know record any in a big
  • 00:15:47
    Studio or a nicer yeah our first record
  • 00:15:50
    cost 700 bucks to make really yeah on
  • 00:15:52
    Lookout records yeah yeah Rob Rob did um
  • 00:15:55
    he did American Idiot too right yeah
  • 00:15:58
    yeah he's done a lot of records with us
  • 00:15:59
    yeah so when so it's like he's done all
  • 00:16:01
    three of these mhm saviors yeah we
  • 00:16:03
    definitely have chemistry with Rob he is
  • 00:16:06
    a um student of music and he's just a
  • 00:16:09
    lover of music and he's a very very um
  • 00:16:13
    vast knowledge of recording and the
  • 00:16:17
    music music history everything else and
  • 00:16:19
    that's something we all share a love for
  • 00:16:21
    yeah and he's an expert on us yeah yeah
  • 00:16:25
    which is is that a good thing or is that
  • 00:16:27
    a good thing or a bad thing you have to
  • 00:16:29
    ask him yeah well it's great cuz he he
  • 00:16:32
    knows how to get the best performances
  • 00:16:34
    out of us yeah you know he we can take
  • 00:16:35
    off the producer hat ourselves and he
  • 00:16:38
    can and just let him drive it was 10
  • 00:16:40
    years later with that album but the
  • 00:16:41
    stakes were pretty high for you guys
  • 00:16:42
    again because I mean some folks thought
  • 00:16:44
    at that point some folks thought you
  • 00:16:46
    guys were past your
  • 00:16:47
    Prime they were
  • 00:16:51
    wrong you make records and sometimes
  • 00:16:55
    it's like the metrics of what people
  • 00:16:56
    think is success is it's so strange
  • 00:17:00
    because soon as you sell like 10 million
  • 00:17:03
    records you know with with dookie
  • 00:17:05
    anything less than that is looked at
  • 00:17:07
    sort of not being successful so people
  • 00:17:10
    kind
  • 00:17:11
    of you know thought like maybe we were
  • 00:17:14
    over or over our Prime we wanted to make
  • 00:17:17
    our you know Tommy we wanted to make our
  • 00:17:20
    Ziggy Stardust we wanted to make our
  • 00:17:23
    Sergeant peppers a lot of bands feel
  • 00:17:25
    that way we wanted we felt that way from
  • 00:17:27
    the very beginning and that was our
  • 00:17:29
    opportunity when it came to idiot that
  • 00:17:31
    we're like okay Now's the Time Yeah well
  • 00:17:34
    like when insomnia came out I remember
  • 00:17:36
    some uh interviews like so are you guys
  • 00:17:39
    disappointed that it's only four times
  • 00:17:42
    platinum and it's like yeah what a drag
  • 00:17:45
    yeah I don't find a lot of artists
  • 00:17:47
    necessarily measure their albums that
  • 00:17:49
    way do you guys I mean against each
  • 00:17:50
    other do you do
  • 00:17:52
    that I I think they um they sort of all
  • 00:17:57
    work together really like I don't think
  • 00:17:59
    that um there's one record that reacts
  • 00:18:03
    against another record they all sort of
  • 00:18:05
    yeah are ingredients to you know what
  • 00:18:08
    we've got going now which I think is
  • 00:18:10
    pretty tasty treat how would you say you
  • 00:18:12
    got here to this
  • 00:18:15
    album it's strange first I just wanted
  • 00:18:17
    to make like a a punk record that was
  • 00:18:19
    more like you know songs like look mono
  • 00:18:21
    brains Cola City uh living in the 20s
  • 00:18:25
    now I want to make something that sounds
  • 00:18:26
    more Stadium something big like good
  • 00:18:29
    night
  • 00:18:30
    Adeline uh and saviors and American
  • 00:18:34
    dream is killing me by the time we we
  • 00:18:36
    got together and I we're like you know
  • 00:18:39
    we're like well we have like six 16 17
  • 00:18:42
    songs I think it's time to go in the
  • 00:18:43
    studio and I was like really okay let's
  • 00:18:46
    go by that time it was like we were like
  • 00:18:49
    and then I was like oh now I know what
  • 00:18:52
    this thing is like pulled everything
  • 00:18:54
    together like like what Mike was saying
  • 00:18:56
    about the knowledge that we a Through
  • 00:18:59
    The Years mhm and uh oh I see what
  • 00:19:01
    you're saying you're saying that you
  • 00:19:02
    realized that this album was kind of
  • 00:19:04
    pull pulling everything you've done
  • 00:19:06
    together yeah it just happened to be
  • 00:19:09
    that it it landed cohesive with this uh
  • 00:19:13
    we TR you know whatever we're writing
  • 00:19:14
    we're trying to write the best version
  • 00:19:16
    of that that we ever can or that we you
  • 00:19:18
    know that we can and and you know so
  • 00:19:21
    you're kind of getting a little bit of
  • 00:19:22
    everything that we've ever done in this
  • 00:19:23
    but I think you're getting it at the
  • 00:19:25
    highest quality that we've ever done it
  • 00:19:27
    you know there's a song on this called
  • 00:19:28
    the which I I love it maybe my favorite
  • 00:19:30
    song in the record but oh thanks um I
  • 00:19:33
    think I read that you you said that it's
  • 00:19:35
    some of the most personal writing you've
  • 00:19:37
    done yeah I mean the first line is of
  • 00:19:42
    dilemma is welcome to my problems it's
  • 00:19:45
    not an invitation yeah it sort of kind
  • 00:19:47
    of works in two ways where it's like uh
  • 00:19:50
    it's very personal when it comes to like
  • 00:19:52
    talking about sobriety and um falling
  • 00:19:54
    off the wagon wagon coming back on you
  • 00:19:57
    know and then um it's but it works in
  • 00:20:00
    another way where it's like the people
  • 00:20:03
    that are actually partyers in the crowd
  • 00:20:05
    are like I was sober now I'm drunk again
  • 00:20:08
    you know yeah you know and I'm like oh
  • 00:20:12
    you know so it's uh yeah it's kind of
  • 00:20:15
    the the way that it works is uh uh just
  • 00:20:20
    I don't know I love that song it's one
  • 00:20:21
    my favorite song The Record what took
  • 00:20:22
    you to that
  • 00:20:24
    subject it kind of the same thing as uh
  • 00:20:27
    American Dream where it just all
  • 00:20:30
    happened right at once m is
  • 00:20:33
    the um the melody hit the lyric hit yeah
  • 00:20:36
    and then um you know I have I make voice
  • 00:20:39
    notes of like different Melodies on my
  • 00:20:41
    you know I I put on my phone right um
  • 00:20:44
    and then um and it just that that
  • 00:20:47
    happened it just write itself in like 20
  • 00:20:50
    minutes you mentioned Melodies and
  • 00:20:52
    dreams how often does that happen it's I
  • 00:20:55
    wouldn't say dreams I say more like
  • 00:20:56
    Daydreams okay yeah yeah so they just
  • 00:20:59
    float stuff just floats into your head
  • 00:21:01
    yeah yeah and we see it happen to him do
  • 00:21:04
    yeah we'll be like hanging out just
  • 00:21:07
    hanging in make conversation and
  • 00:21:09
    then oh you're you don't know what I'm
  • 00:21:13
    saying right now you're you're writing a
  • 00:21:15
    song aren't you like H and then and then
  • 00:21:17
    he'll like huh what it's like no no keep
  • 00:21:19
    doing that we put the sign on him and
  • 00:21:22
    says he'll be back in a half an
  • 00:21:24
    hour you played American Idiot New Year
  • 00:21:26
    Eve you change you changed the lyrics
  • 00:21:28
    which as you know seemed to upset some
  • 00:21:31
    people I've been saying Maga agenda for
  • 00:21:34
    the past since 2016 and then um and it
  • 00:21:39
    said magga agenda I one word it wasn't
  • 00:21:41
    even a word it was a hyphen
  • 00:21:44
    yeah and then like and then everybody
  • 00:21:48
    picked up on it yeah you know so I uh
  • 00:21:51
    but I'm I'm proud of what I said I stand
  • 00:21:53
    behind it a th% yeah what do you make of
  • 00:21:57
    that the chaos that comes out of
  • 00:21:59
    something like that I think I think it's
  • 00:22:00
    very telling of the temperature of the
  • 00:22:02
    world right now yeah what I'm really
  • 00:22:04
    proud of is I I didn't tweet it I sang
  • 00:22:07
    it yeah you know that's like it's easy
  • 00:22:09
    to go up and like tweet something at the
  • 00:22:13
    top of your head and you know it's like
  • 00:22:16
    for me saying it comes more from the
  • 00:22:18
    heart it goes to show you that music um
  • 00:22:21
    is powerful and can be dangerous and can
  • 00:22:24
    be it can you know tip the needle that's
  • 00:22:26
    still the power of music isn't it that's
  • 00:22:28
    kind of refreshing in some ways I think
  • 00:22:30
    yeah all of my favorite bands and
  • 00:22:32
    singers have always been some form uh
  • 00:22:36
    they've all been Rebels and they've all
  • 00:22:38
    been yeah some form of protest music but
  • 00:22:42
    Love Will Keep Us Together love will
  • 00:22:45
    tear us
  • 00:22:46
    apart is it important for you to still
  • 00:22:50
    be a protest band in some way do you
  • 00:22:52
    think is that what sort of the punk part
  • 00:22:54
    of it has always always been about I
  • 00:22:56
    think it you know we've always wanted to
  • 00:23:00
    keep our Edge yeah you know I think that
  • 00:23:03
    that's why we work so hard and and have
  • 00:23:07
    the patience and to wait for those
  • 00:23:09
    inspired moments where it it feels like
  • 00:23:11
    it's like a new idea it's a fresh idea
  • 00:23:14
    it's not something that is uh you know
  • 00:23:16
    like I like I said this record I feel
  • 00:23:18
    like for saviors is years in the making
  • 00:23:22
    because you you know there was a much
  • 00:23:24
    bigger story that needed to be told
  • 00:23:26
    about where where America was heading
  • 00:23:29
    from after Obama yeah you know through
  • 00:23:31
    the Trump era and sort of the
  • 00:23:33
    divisiveness that was coming on like
  • 00:23:35
    coming through in America like the from
  • 00:23:38
    the right and the left a lot of just
  • 00:23:39
    like you know it's just like people just
  • 00:23:42
    shouting uh so I I think just watching
  • 00:23:46
    the world evolve and or devolve and uh
  • 00:23:50
    write write the
  • 00:23:52
    lyrics um you're going out on tour yeah
  • 00:23:56
    we're doing the savior's tour and and uh
  • 00:23:59
    we're going to be playing dookie in its
  • 00:24:01
    entirety and American Idiot in its
  • 00:24:03
    entirety it's just so wild to have those
  • 00:24:05
    two records to
  • 00:24:07
    be exactly 10 years apart yeah I don't
  • 00:24:10
    think anybody ever has ever had the
  • 00:24:14
    those kinds of records that come you
  • 00:24:16
    know at that particular time and uh I
  • 00:24:19
    think it's it's a once- in a-lifetime
  • 00:24:22
    yeah opportunity to come see those two
  • 00:24:24
    records we don't know if we're ever
  • 00:24:26
    going to do them again I think it's
  • 00:24:27
    going to be
  • 00:24:28
    some really special shows you know we're
  • 00:24:31
    obviously going to throw some other
  • 00:24:32
    things in there too we've got a new
  • 00:24:33
    album and so it's a kind of a trifecta
  • 00:24:35
    moment you know it's really neat to see
  • 00:24:37
    these three albums come together and be
  • 00:24:40
    able to go up there and and uh yeah and
  • 00:24:42
    just celebrate our past we never really
  • 00:24:44
    looked back a whole lot uh we or too far
  • 00:24:47
    forward we kind of stayed in the moment
  • 00:24:48
    but this is a I want to savor this
  • 00:24:51
    moment you know yeah I think we all can
  • 00:24:53
    I want to save this moment I knew that
  • 00:24:55
    was
  • 00:24:57
    coming hey
  • 00:24:58
    where's your dad
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