What’s right for your child? Shaping your child’s educational journey
الملخص
TLDRThe panel at Malvern School in Hong Kong discusses how to choose a suitable school for children, emphasizing that academic achievement should not be the sole criterion. They advise parents to evaluate a school's culture, values, and hidden curriculum, which contribute to a child’s character and skills development. Guests are urged to visit schools in person to grasp their ethos truly. The conversation also touches on understanding different curricula, the balance between skills and knowledge, and the importance of active parental involvement and communication with school staff for fostering a supportive educational environment.
الوجبات الجاهزة
- 👥 Engaging with a school's culture and values is crucial.
- 🏫 Visiting the school offers the best assessment of its environment.
- 🎓 Balance between academics and character development is key.
- 🌐 Different curricula offer diverse skillsets; explore options.
- 📚 Emphasizing skills such as critical thinking over mere knowledge memorization.
- 🤝 Communication with school staff is vital for child’s development.
- 🎒 Supporting transitions between curriculums can be challenging but feasible for younger children.
- 🛠️ Skills development should start early and be interdisciplinary.
- 🔍 Researching beyond brochures and websites is essential.
- 📞 Schools encourage communication with teachers for tailored support.
الجدول الزمني
- 00:00:00 - 00:05:00
The video opens with Chris Parker, the COO of Top Schools, introducing the panelists from Malvern School in Hong Kong. He assures viewers of COVID-19 safety compliance and the topic of discussion: choosing the right school for your child. The panelists introduce themselves, marking the start of the conversation.
- 00:05:00 - 00:10:00
Robin, one of the panelists, highlights an anecdote about defining Malvern qualities, focusing on attributes they want students to embody beyond academics. The discussion emphasizes the importance of 'hidden curricula' and how schools should reflect their true ethos beyond just academics.
- 00:10:00 - 00:15:00
The conversation shifts to looking beyond glossy brochures when choosing schools, stressing the importance of value alignment and a balanced focus between hard academics and softer personal development. Importance is given to visiting the school to feel its culture firsthand.
- 00:15:00 - 00:20:00
Wayne adds by warning against relying solely on past educational experiences and encourages exploring modern approaches in education. The discussion touches on how schools have evolved, advising parents to understand new educational environments and methods.
- 00:20:00 - 00:25:00
Maria talks about the happiness and positive environment felt within Malvern. The curriculum's role is discussed, emphasizing understanding how a school delivers it beyond just the curriculum itself. The focus is on nurturing children aptly through their educational journey.
- 00:25:00 - 00:30:00
Robin discusses the importance of skills over knowledge in present-day education, with skills being crucial for future-ready students. It's emphasized that knowledge isn't purely academic but is about teaching students to critically analyze and adapt, showing IB's approach in skill emphasis.
- 00:30:00 - 00:35:16
The panel concludes by reiterating on the importance of collaborations between parents and schools, effective communication, and personal visits to assess school culture. They emphasize fostering a well-rounded development environment for children above mere academic achievement.
الخريطة الذهنية
فيديو أسئلة وأجوبة
What are important criteria to consider when choosing a school for my child?
Apart from academic achievements, a school's hidden curriculum, values, and culture significantly influence the decision when choosing a school for your child.
How can I effectively assess a school before choosing it?
Visiting the school, interacting with teachers and students, and understanding the school's values and culture help in assessing a potential school effectively.
Is it challenging for my child to switch from one curriculum to another?
Yes, transitioning is easier when the child is younger, but it requires careful consideration of the child's adaptability and the support provided both at home and school.
What should parents focus on for their child's education?
Parents should focus on both academic results and the character development of the child, ensuring that skills such as problem-solving and critical thinking are nurtured.
How can parents support their child's development outside of school?
Parents can further their child's development by actively communicating with teachers, participating in the school community, and reinforcing the school's values at home.
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- 00:00:07good evening from hong kong very nice to
- 00:00:09all be together here and
- 00:00:11in person for the first time
- 00:00:14so welcome to everybody out there in
- 00:00:16internet land and uh welcome obviously
- 00:00:18to the panelists and we'll let you know
- 00:00:20exactly who they are in just one second
- 00:00:22um i wanted to talk to you just a little
- 00:00:24bit everybody out there know we have all
- 00:00:26been fully vaccinated at least at least
- 00:00:29three times
- 00:00:30uh we have had
- 00:00:32rat tests today and we have had um
- 00:00:36and we are socially distant and we are
- 00:00:38eating so we are fully compliant with
- 00:00:41all of government regulations okay so
- 00:00:44hopefully hopefully everybody is okay
- 00:00:46and understands all of that
- 00:00:49i'm chris parker
- 00:00:51so i work for top schools i'm the chief
- 00:00:53operating officer of top schools
- 00:00:55and with me today i have some very
- 00:00:56distinguished panelists from malvern
- 00:00:58school so if i'm just going to go around
- 00:01:00and ask them to briefly introduce
- 00:01:03yourselves to the audience that'll be
- 00:01:04fantastic can we start with you maria
- 00:01:06thanks chris my name is maria gabriel i
- 00:01:08am the head of prep here at melbourne
- 00:01:10college and i've been here since the
- 00:01:12start since july 2018.
- 00:01:16i'm wayne marr i'm the head of senior
- 00:01:18school
- 00:01:19and although i've joined more than hong
- 00:01:21kong i'm only at the beginning of last
- 00:01:23academic year so i've been here for two
- 00:01:24years i've been with more than for for
- 00:01:26nearly seven years as i was previously
- 00:01:28at morgan college in egypt
- 00:01:31and i am robin lister i am the
- 00:01:34headmaster here in more than hong kong
- 00:01:36um and prior to coming here i was
- 00:01:39the what was called the senior deputy
- 00:01:41head in malvern uk and prior to that i
- 00:01:43was a house master in northern uk
- 00:01:46fantastic so lots of lots of in-depth
- 00:01:48experience with mothers so if i haven't
- 00:01:50been doing this so it's great stuff
- 00:01:52okay so we've got we've got a few
- 00:01:53questions that we're going to use to
- 00:01:54sort of structure the discussion but the
- 00:01:55discussion today is really around um how
- 00:01:58to choose the right school for your
- 00:02:00child this is a really really really
- 00:02:02important decision as we all know and so
- 00:02:05we're just going to just discuss about
- 00:02:06that we're gonna dive into our tea and
- 00:02:08biscuits i hope you don't you'll bear
- 00:02:10with us if we do that we're trying to
- 00:02:12keep it fairly informal uh we will have
- 00:02:14time for questions and answers at the
- 00:02:15end so hopefully if there are any
- 00:02:17questions please check them into the end
- 00:02:19of the comments there or into the the
- 00:02:21chat box and we will get to them uh as
- 00:02:23soon as we can so without further ado
- 00:02:26let me uh let's dive over and grab robin
- 00:02:29for the first one so
- 00:02:31big question
- 00:02:33robin okay so what criteria should i
- 00:02:36look for when choosing a school for my
- 00:02:38child
- 00:02:39well i'm going to start off this
- 00:02:41evening's conversation with something of
- 00:02:44an anecdote and forgive me colleagues if
- 00:02:46you've heard me talk about this before
- 00:02:48um some years ago the headmaster of
- 00:02:51morgan uk
- 00:02:53uh anthony clark and i when i was the
- 00:02:55senior deputy head we sat down one late
- 00:02:57afternoon to try to work out
- 00:03:00what it was that we wanted our pupils in
- 00:03:03malvern uk to demonstrate once they've
- 00:03:06left school
- 00:03:08we had thought this conversation would
- 00:03:10take uh an hour or so
- 00:03:12in reality uh the conversation went on
- 00:03:16for six nine months and ended up
- 00:03:20involving not only the teachers in
- 00:03:21modern uk but the old malvernians and a
- 00:03:24wider and wider
- 00:03:27community conversation
- 00:03:29what came out of that
- 00:03:31was what of what have come to be called
- 00:03:33the malden qualities
- 00:03:36we define those kind of things that we
- 00:03:39wanted our pupils to demonstrate once
- 00:03:42they had left school they've all had a
- 00:03:45superb education
- 00:03:47but beyond their academic credentials we
- 00:03:50wanted our pupils to demonstrate such
- 00:03:52things as
- 00:03:53resilience
- 00:03:55integrity
- 00:03:57we wanted our people our pupils at their
- 00:03:59school to be risk takers not silly risk
- 00:04:02takers but educated risk-takers
- 00:04:04we wanted them to
- 00:04:06challenge the environment
- 00:04:08if you want to read more about more than
- 00:04:10qualities please go online and do so but
- 00:04:12they are an integral approach of what a
- 00:04:15modern education is all about and that i
- 00:04:18think is what a potential parent should
- 00:04:20be looking for you can understand that
- 00:04:22every school has a good or great
- 00:04:25academic curriculum
- 00:04:27but what i would recommend is that you
- 00:04:29look for the hidden curriculum of the
- 00:04:31school and in our case that is all to do
- 00:04:34with the so-called modern qualities and
- 00:04:36they are qualities we take very very
- 00:04:41our conversation may come back to those
- 00:04:43in a moment
- 00:04:45yeah absolutely i'm sure they will so
- 00:04:46yeah thanks so much today for that so
- 00:04:48it's kind of about it's not just about
- 00:04:49the hearts or the hard the hard numbers
- 00:04:52the hard qualifications it's about the
- 00:04:54was that the personal
- 00:04:56softer absolutely right and developing a
- 00:04:59child's character developing a child's
- 00:05:02personality and we try to put into place
- 00:05:04various things to try to bring that into
- 00:05:07fruition with a child so not just the
- 00:05:09academics academics are frightfully
- 00:05:11important but they shouldn't be seen
- 00:05:13exclusively as to what a more than
- 00:05:15education is all about okay and that
- 00:05:17goes all the way through right from the
- 00:05:18very early years of more than school by
- 00:05:21the way through right from
- 00:05:23i pyp
- 00:05:23ones up to upper sixth they're they are
- 00:05:26part of mole and identity these
- 00:05:28qualities are told
- 00:05:30can i add on to that and obviously
- 00:05:33doing um talking about the mobile
- 00:05:35qualities kind of leads into this in
- 00:05:37terms of
- 00:05:38the ethos and and the values and the
- 00:05:40beliefs of a school and that's one of
- 00:05:42the things i would say also i would
- 00:05:44encourage parents to do
- 00:05:45is doing their homework on your school
- 00:05:47yes and looking for what are the values
- 00:05:50of the school as well and obviously for
- 00:05:52more than qualities
- 00:05:54it's getting that balance right isn't it
- 00:05:57i mean it's it's easy sometimes
- 00:05:59relatively speaking for schools to focus
- 00:06:01on the numbers on the rankings on the on
- 00:06:04how many people's get an a-star or they
- 00:06:07get distinctions at ib or whatever but
- 00:06:10it's much more difficult somehow to to
- 00:06:12look into the school and actually see
- 00:06:15those slightly softer elements yeah
- 00:06:18if i could add a little bit more to that
- 00:06:20it i think the softer circle softer
- 00:06:22elements are really really important
- 00:06:25i would
- 00:06:27warn potential parents not to be swayed
- 00:06:30too much by looking at a website not to
- 00:06:32be swayed too much by looking at lovely
- 00:06:34brochures we've got great brochures most
- 00:06:37schools have wonderful brochures
- 00:06:39but i think you've got to see through
- 00:06:40all of that and the best way of doing
- 00:06:42that is actually to try to visit a
- 00:06:44school
- 00:06:45to pick up you can almost feel what a
- 00:06:48school is like within 10-15 minutes uh
- 00:06:51nothing can beat coming to a school
- 00:06:53preferably when there's pupils around
- 00:06:54and so you can see it in action and
- 00:06:56preferably if you get a chance to speak
- 00:06:58to me or my colleagues or teachers
- 00:07:01that's when you really get to grips with
- 00:07:04what a school is all about
- 00:07:06and slowly we're getting back there to
- 00:07:08the point where in-person events are
- 00:07:10becoming once again more and it is
- 00:07:12really really really important in terms
- 00:07:15of the school to be able to assess that
- 00:07:17culture even when i've been going around
- 00:07:19schools in general and and
- 00:07:21in particular
- 00:07:22you do pick up a sense much more clearly
- 00:07:25of
- 00:07:26the culture of the school when i'm
- 00:07:28talking about soft skills i don't know
- 00:07:29i'm not denigrating them in any way
- 00:07:31versus sort of hard hard skills it's
- 00:07:33important to get a balance of both if
- 00:07:35you're going to have a fully sort of
- 00:07:37fully developed young person i think
- 00:07:39that's that's really right yeah okay
- 00:07:42great well thanks that was really useful
- 00:07:45can i just um you know
- 00:07:46go back to you and also perhaps bring in
- 00:07:48bringing wayne on this one and then and
- 00:07:50talking about the potential pitfalls i
- 00:07:52mean we've sort of touched on them but i
- 00:07:53mean what potential pitfalls you know
- 00:07:56should parents be wary of
- 00:07:58not just
- 00:08:00well yeah when they're coming looking at
- 00:08:02schools but i mean they're teachers and
- 00:08:04curriculums and and all kinds of stuff
- 00:08:05like that
- 00:08:07i i would follow on from what we're
- 00:08:08saying about
- 00:08:10not just taking what's in glossy
- 00:08:12brochures actually yes visiting the
- 00:08:13school speaking to to teachers speaking
- 00:08:16to pupils and allowing children when
- 00:08:18they do tours around the school um new
- 00:08:20new potential children to speak to the
- 00:08:22current pupils and they get
- 00:08:24a good understanding then of really what
- 00:08:27the school is about obviously when
- 00:08:28there's adults other teachers around the
- 00:08:30students themselves might not be as open
- 00:08:32as honest but we're trying to build that
- 00:08:34in um but i'd say
- 00:08:36it's a question that i i usually post
- 00:08:39for
- 00:08:40parents when they're coming on tours
- 00:08:41around the school or what i'm hearing
- 00:08:43from them is that quite often when
- 00:08:45they're considering a school for their
- 00:08:47child they've got maybe a bit too much
- 00:08:49in the back of their mind what their own
- 00:08:51education was and then they're trying to
- 00:08:53replicate what they liked and what they
- 00:08:55wanted um as a child and schools have
- 00:08:58changed dramatically in in only the
- 00:09:01reason was not just when i was at school
- 00:09:03but just in the last two three four
- 00:09:04years even what we've gone through with
- 00:09:06kovid in the last few years the change
- 00:09:08that online learning and technology and
- 00:09:10schools have really transformed so i
- 00:09:13would encourage parents to to really try
- 00:09:16and avoid just thinking about their own
- 00:09:18experiences at school yes we want
- 00:09:19parents to be comfortable with the
- 00:09:21school that they've chosen for their
- 00:09:23child but also as we're saying we do it
- 00:09:25trying to instill in the people's taking
- 00:09:27a bit of a risk but parents need to do
- 00:09:28that as well when they're looking at
- 00:09:30school and think trying to
- 00:09:33to spot modern approaches to education
- 00:09:36and not just replicating what they went
- 00:09:37through with your background because you
- 00:09:39were in egypt before who were talking
- 00:09:40talking earlier on do you see
- 00:09:44similar issues in in hong kong as you
- 00:09:46perhaps saw with parents there the same
- 00:09:48issues apply it's the same theme yes i
- 00:09:51think there um in egypt similar to hong
- 00:09:53kong there's actually quite a
- 00:09:55significant tradition of british schools
- 00:09:57in in egypt and um sometimes some of
- 00:10:00those schools were selling themselves on
- 00:10:02being british curriculum and british
- 00:10:05ethos but maybe didn't have as many
- 00:10:07british staff and and the experiences
- 00:10:10and and kind of ethos and values from
- 00:10:12another school outside of um of egypt
- 00:10:15but the parents who had been through
- 00:10:16those schools in egypt and then were
- 00:10:18looking for a school for their child
- 00:10:20maybe
- 00:10:21sometimes thought they knew what they
- 00:10:22were getting into for their child and
- 00:10:25then sometimes would would see the
- 00:10:27school as being quite a bit different
- 00:10:29and sometimes it
- 00:10:30kind of made them a bit worried but most
- 00:10:32of the time they would actually get
- 00:10:33quite excited that um they're seeing
- 00:10:35these values and the character of the
- 00:10:37child um developing and and the focus
- 00:10:40being on academics but also on these
- 00:10:42other other elements
- 00:10:44that's really useful
- 00:10:46yeah i mean i think back to my to my
- 00:10:48childhood i think i'm arguably the
- 00:10:50oldest the oldest member of the audience
- 00:10:52not sure about that
- 00:10:54possibly possibly second but
- 00:10:57we're over of an age
- 00:10:58and i can recall and i
- 00:11:00one of the things that are going around
- 00:11:02hong kong schools has shown me is the
- 00:11:05fundamental way and and modernizing
- 00:11:07classically it's the way it's
- 00:11:09fundamentally changed since since i was
- 00:11:12at school you know it really was and i
- 00:11:14mean that we know we're
- 00:11:15just incredible
- 00:11:17but the opportunities that there are for
- 00:11:19for kids to learn all sorts of different
- 00:11:21things
- 00:11:22including as you say the the softer
- 00:11:24elements of of life and and being a good
- 00:11:27person and all that sort of thing
- 00:11:30great okay well thank you very much and
- 00:11:32the key question particularly you know
- 00:11:34i'm sure the audience out there if
- 00:11:35you've heard of ib you've heard of a
- 00:11:37levels you've heard of all the different
- 00:11:39which curriculum is best for my child
- 00:11:41how do i decide
- 00:11:43um well
- 00:11:45i would say that there is more to school
- 00:11:47than that curriculum and actually one of
- 00:11:49the things that um
- 00:11:51robin and i this morning don't remember
- 00:11:52our conversation reception this morning
- 00:11:54as we were greeting the children you
- 00:11:56said when you walk around campus now
- 00:11:57what do you feel
- 00:11:59happy you feel you feel the happiness of
- 00:12:02this building so i think genuinely we
- 00:12:03talked about it yes we did we did then
- 00:12:05we talked about it and we said okay it's
- 00:12:07our fourth year we've built that culture
- 00:12:09that community is
- 00:12:11you know we feel it now happy
- 00:12:13um a caring and nurturing environment
- 00:12:16and i would say
- 00:12:17yes look for the curriculum but also
- 00:12:19look for that and see if you can pick up
- 00:12:21that safe and nurturing environment
- 00:12:22that's something that we definitely
- 00:12:24do here
- 00:12:25but also obviously the curriculum is an
- 00:12:27important part and i think that's about
- 00:12:29knowing your child how
- 00:12:31you know how do they best learn are they
- 00:12:33hands-on do they prefer to
- 00:12:36learn things by doing things and
- 00:12:38and
- 00:12:39look for that curriculum and obviously
- 00:12:40trying not to be influenced by your own
- 00:12:42education at that point as well yeah
- 00:12:45yeah
- 00:12:47another great agree on that the
- 00:12:49curriculum it's the it's a major part of
- 00:12:52the school obviously but um it's not
- 00:12:54everything about the school and schools
- 00:12:56may may have the same curriculum there
- 00:12:58are a number of schools in um here in
- 00:13:00hong kong that do the nyp um but that we
- 00:13:04that we do here as well but more than uk
- 00:13:06doesn't do the nyp so we have a
- 00:13:08difference to them but i would say we
- 00:13:10have a lot of similarities to more than
- 00:13:12uk with the values and the ethos that we
- 00:13:15try and build into the school so the
- 00:13:16curriculum is important as a school but
- 00:13:18it's not for us as as the educators in
- 00:13:20the school it's not the driving factor
- 00:13:22for us so actually try and encourage
- 00:13:24parents to so yes they need to consider
- 00:13:26the types of curriculum that might be
- 00:13:28suitable for their child look at online
- 00:13:30there's plenty of resources and reviews
- 00:13:32online for for comparing different types
- 00:13:34of curriculum but really for the parents
- 00:13:36to try and delve into the school and how
- 00:13:38they
- 00:13:39then kind of
- 00:13:41deliver it deliver that curriculum
- 00:13:42within the classroom what does the
- 00:13:44classroom look like i think it's that
- 00:13:45that feel for the school it really
- 00:13:47there's no way of beating it by coming
- 00:13:49into a school and seeing and hearing and
- 00:13:52really is feeling what's happening in
- 00:13:54this year
- 00:13:55and when parents come in come into the
- 00:13:57school
- 00:13:58how
- 00:13:59much can they get involved in as it was
- 00:14:01the school day and they are able to go
- 00:14:03into the stand at the back and see a
- 00:14:05lesson or
- 00:14:07how how does it how does it work when
- 00:14:08they come to this classrooms are all
- 00:14:10like fish bowls they're all glass so
- 00:14:12they can easily look in from the outside
- 00:14:15uh but yeah i think uh they can also go
- 00:14:18in and have a look our pupils are very
- 00:14:20welcoming i'm sure they'll be pulled in
- 00:14:22as well by pupils into the classrooms
- 00:14:24they're very interested so who's these
- 00:14:25strange
- 00:14:26strange tall people
- 00:14:28i mean one of the greatest experiences i
- 00:14:30have when as i had i'm stuck in front of
- 00:14:32my screens for too long and when it when
- 00:14:34i want to escape from my room
- 00:14:37i go around the school and particularly
- 00:14:40not exclusively but particularly in the
- 00:14:42in the prep section the primary section
- 00:14:44if i go into a classroom the children
- 00:14:46will volunteer they come up to me and
- 00:14:48say they want to explain what they're
- 00:14:50doing and why and they gather around and
- 00:14:53feeling that enthusiasm is just
- 00:14:57it tells me that we're doing it right
- 00:14:59here
- 00:15:00to go back just briefly to the question
- 00:15:02of what formal curriculum what academic
- 00:15:05curriculum i'm going to be a little bit
- 00:15:07biased here um
- 00:15:09but i would say
- 00:15:11in the
- 00:15:1220 in 2022 what parents should be
- 00:15:16looking for are curriculums that are
- 00:15:19concentrating as much
- 00:15:21on skills as on the transference of
- 00:15:24knowledge now we are an ib school
- 00:15:26because we believe that the ibp does
- 00:15:28that that we are inculcating children a
- 00:15:31whole range of skills as well as a
- 00:15:34bedrock of knowledge and i think in the
- 00:15:36years to come
- 00:15:37children will need to develop all kinds
- 00:15:40of skill base that perhaps when i was a
- 00:15:42boy
- 00:15:44just wasn't necessary so what we're
- 00:15:46trying to do at malden is prepare
- 00:15:48children for a future that we're not all
- 00:15:51together clear about
- 00:15:53the jobs are going to change remarkably
- 00:15:55i think in the next 5 10 15 20 years
- 00:15:58um so teaching children skills teaching
- 00:16:02children to be
- 00:16:04problem solvers teaching children's
- 00:16:06children to collaborate with each other
- 00:16:09to even question the teacher
- 00:16:11question the validity of the textbook
- 00:16:14we think in doing all these things we're
- 00:16:17preparing children as best we can for a
- 00:16:20world that's going to change and change
- 00:16:22quickly
- 00:16:23so look for a curriculum
- 00:16:25like the ib i'm biased which is looking
- 00:16:28at skills as much as knowledge that's
- 00:16:30what i would say just that's good i've
- 00:16:32come across
- 00:16:33lots of
- 00:16:35instances of children as young as i
- 00:16:37guess eight nine years old starting to
- 00:16:39look at computer coding and
- 00:16:41all this sort of thing i mean the sort
- 00:16:42of thing that was just completely
- 00:16:44just not available to me let alone
- 00:16:46anything else not sure i'd have been
- 00:16:47terribly interested in myself to be
- 00:16:49honest with you that being my personal
- 00:16:51preference i'm afraid but but
- 00:16:53nonetheless what a fantastic skill to
- 00:16:54have as you as you go forward and of
- 00:16:57course the
- 00:16:58one the real pluses about being here in
- 00:17:00hong kong is the language skills as well
- 00:17:02because you're bilingual correct is that
- 00:17:04yeah yeah well every child has um it's
- 00:17:07generally uh a lesson a day in chinese
- 00:17:10and occasionally they miss that but it's
- 00:17:13generally five times a year so chinese
- 00:17:15has taken various so it's very very very
- 00:17:17important okay so that leads on very
- 00:17:19neatly to the to the the key question
- 00:17:21which i guess is if somebody is doing
- 00:17:23one curriculum and it can go either way
- 00:17:25i suppose you know
- 00:17:27how easy is it for it to change you know
- 00:17:30are there certain points when it's
- 00:17:31easier or is it
- 00:17:32where it's impossible
- 00:17:34well i would say yes it's it's easier
- 00:17:37when the child is still young and
- 00:17:38obviously they can adapt to a a new
- 00:17:40curriculum and so on but uh it's again
- 00:17:43about what's the good fit is it that the
- 00:17:46child is better off to continue with
- 00:17:48that same curriculum path or is it
- 00:17:50better for them to change
- 00:17:52curriculums are not
- 00:17:54suitable for all children and all
- 00:17:55children might not find that their you
- 00:17:57know that curriculum is a good fit for
- 00:17:59them but i would say yes younger down
- 00:18:02you can transition you can do that
- 00:18:04adjustment quicker but perhaps not
- 00:18:07higher up yeah it starts to become more
- 00:18:09challenging as as the children become
- 00:18:12older and move through the particular
- 00:18:14curriculum and obviously a lot of the
- 00:18:16teachers it's not just teaching one year
- 00:18:17group at a time you're always looking to
- 00:18:19the end point and we're pushing them
- 00:18:21towards graduating with with
- 00:18:24their qualifications but with these
- 00:18:25skills and things as well
- 00:18:27so it does become more of a challenge
- 00:18:29but for us that's why we we put a lot of
- 00:18:31time and effort into transitions not
- 00:18:32just between curriculum from byp to mit
- 00:18:35we put transitions on our prep sixes are
- 00:18:37coming up to see the senior school at
- 00:18:39the moment even though we're all in the
- 00:18:40same building but but from one year
- 00:18:42group to the next and welcoming in new
- 00:18:44peoples and a huge success we've had
- 00:18:46with that is actually
- 00:18:47the pupils themselves welcoming in and
- 00:18:50helping new people start to fit in
- 00:18:52sometimes my experience has been
- 00:18:54children moving from one curriculum
- 00:18:55together again it's not about the
- 00:18:57curriculum it's about the ethos and the
- 00:18:59values and i know we've got a few people
- 00:19:01that have come to to morgan and maybe
- 00:19:03teenagers having to look at wearing a
- 00:19:05tie and and blazers and and that's
- 00:19:08something that they find as as a little
- 00:19:10bit strange
- 00:19:11myself
- 00:19:13yeah so i think it's it it is
- 00:19:14challenging for
- 00:19:16children to change year groups but um
- 00:19:18looking at what kind of support that the
- 00:19:20school and and the family put in
- 00:19:22place yeah i think that's the point
- 00:19:24isn't it it's it's about support i
- 00:19:26suppose i suppose
- 00:19:27with the best within the world
- 00:19:29anything is possible
- 00:19:31but it's all about the support
- 00:19:33structures that are in place both in the
- 00:19:35home and and in the school probably come
- 00:19:37back to that a little bit later on as
- 00:19:38well so great thank you okay
- 00:19:40oh
- 00:19:42robin yeah we'll be talking about this
- 00:19:44sort of more or less constantly and it's
- 00:19:46it's definitely is a theme i think as
- 00:19:48we're going through this but the big
- 00:19:49question which is more important skills
- 00:19:52or knowledge
- 00:19:54when i was a boy on the spot
- 00:19:57when i was a boy which is a long time
- 00:19:59ago um it was absolutely definitely
- 00:20:02knowledge i mean when i went to a good
- 00:20:05school i didn't particularly enjoy it to
- 00:20:07be frank uh we had desks in a row the
- 00:20:10teacher was at the front wearing a gown
- 00:20:12and he it was 99 percent of the time he
- 00:20:16he put across a bunch of knowledge which
- 00:20:18we then had to regurgitate
- 00:20:21the world has moved on
- 00:20:24a good school shouldn't do that anymore
- 00:20:28in fact i think knowledge is becoming
- 00:20:30less and less important why simply most
- 00:20:33of us carry iphones of the equivalent
- 00:20:35and we can get any knowledge we want
- 00:20:37virtually instantaneously
- 00:20:40that isn't an excuse not to teach
- 00:20:42knowledge but it kind of puts knowledge
- 00:20:43in its base
- 00:20:45knowledge is also changing very
- 00:20:46radically
- 00:20:48so i think alongside teaching knowledge
- 00:20:51and it's more important than the
- 00:20:52knowledge is how to use knowledge and
- 00:20:55then we're back again here to this idea
- 00:20:57of skills so what we do what we do here
- 00:21:00in melbourne is teaching how to analyze
- 00:21:03knowledge
- 00:21:04so children can make some kind of
- 00:21:06initial judgment as to whether knowledge
- 00:21:08is trustworthy or not perhaps they can
- 00:21:11look at two different stories
- 00:21:14and see which is more truthful
- 00:21:17um we we teach children the importance
- 00:21:20of
- 00:21:21analyzing things we teach children the
- 00:21:23importance of um being able to
- 00:21:26critically analyze the knowledge that
- 00:21:29that is out there
- 00:21:31there's a lot as you and i know there's
- 00:21:32a lot of knowledge now on the web that
- 00:21:35isn't particularly trustworthy so one of
- 00:21:37the things that we do is to try to give
- 00:21:39children the the skill base and make a
- 00:21:41judgment as to what knowledge is
- 00:21:43actually trustworthy
- 00:21:45i don't know uh
- 00:21:46would you want to add what other what
- 00:21:48other skills do you think
- 00:21:50that we need to concentrate on well
- 00:21:53it's quite a high order
- 00:21:54skill if i'm thinking about my
- 00:21:57rubric or whatever the the the
- 00:21:59the levels of different knowledge it's
- 00:22:00always about knowledge first being able
- 00:22:02to analyze is at that higher level i'm
- 00:22:05not sure entirely whether i agree that i
- 00:22:07think you begin to teach very young
- 00:22:08children analytical skills
- 00:22:11yeah the ib obviously would be
- 00:22:12approaches to learning skills that
- 00:22:14starts right from the beginning and
- 00:22:16through the units of inquiry the program
- 00:22:18itself you
- 00:22:20pick the key sub skills that you can
- 00:22:22enhance through the unit and so we start
- 00:22:25with research and and
- 00:22:27actually even at that young age how to
- 00:22:29ask questions and what questions to ask
- 00:22:31and how to find the answers
- 00:22:33and
- 00:22:34obviously it varies then in terms of uh
- 00:22:37analyzing what they are finding in order
- 00:22:39to make sense of it so we talk about
- 00:22:41obviously taking things and putting them
- 00:22:43into your own words in order to to not
- 00:22:46to copy and paste and so on so from that
- 00:22:48age we do and the beautiful thing about
- 00:22:51the atl skills the approach to learning
- 00:22:53skills is every year they build on them
- 00:22:55through a different unit
- 00:22:57and enhanced in a on the next level but
- 00:23:00that's that keeps on going even into
- 00:23:02nypd
- 00:23:03and this is this is another reason why
- 00:23:05it's really important to come and visit
- 00:23:06the school and talk to the teachers um
- 00:23:09because you know i i didn't i didn't
- 00:23:11know that i've always thought the
- 00:23:12critical analysis of research was you
- 00:23:14know something that that's that's a
- 00:23:16university level but of course it it
- 00:23:18needs to start now and more likely or
- 00:23:21the better you started now the more the
- 00:23:23easier it's going to be long term and i
- 00:23:25would say that's probably from per hour
- 00:23:28schooling and things that yes critical
- 00:23:29thinking was considered something you
- 00:23:30would only do towards the end of school
- 00:23:33or at university but because we're doing
- 00:23:34it from a young age and it's just part
- 00:23:37of their everyday curriculum that it's
- 00:23:39it's not then as challenging that
- 00:23:41they're doing it all the time and in
- 00:23:42senior school we try and kind of
- 00:23:44encourage the people that skills are
- 00:23:46across all of the subjects as well
- 00:23:47rather than learning their scientific
- 00:23:49skills and their their english skills
- 00:23:50that there's an overlap and and a big
- 00:23:52one for us is is communication it's
- 00:23:54about not just the different languages
- 00:23:56that they speak but how do they
- 00:23:58communicate as a scientist using their
- 00:24:00english skills or using their their
- 00:24:01other skills and because we we do it
- 00:24:03right throughout the school then the
- 00:24:05people don't perceive it as something as
- 00:24:07a significant hurdle to what we overcome
- 00:24:09it's actually an enabler
- 00:24:12if i could add one other thing which i
- 00:24:13think is crucially important um one of
- 00:24:16the things that the ib does really well
- 00:24:18and we we latch on to it strongly is to
- 00:24:20teach children
- 00:24:21from uh little five and six year olds
- 00:24:24onwards right up to 18 year olds that
- 00:24:26they shouldn't always compartmentalize
- 00:24:29the different subjects
- 00:24:30we try to ensure that children realize
- 00:24:33there are connections
- 00:24:35between
- 00:24:36physics and english and maths and
- 00:24:39geography it's breaking down those
- 00:24:41artificial barriers which i think is
- 00:24:43crucial to a child's ability to actually
- 00:24:47be a problem solver to look at things uh
- 00:24:49in a fresh light
- 00:24:51and that i think is pretty unique dare i
- 00:24:53say to the eye to the ibe curriculum
- 00:24:59i think you went to the same school as
- 00:25:00me robin was possible without the gowns
- 00:25:03but i'm sure there was a cane in the
- 00:25:05corner
- 00:25:08and it was used too
- 00:25:10not on me thank god
- 00:25:12it was on me yeah just once so uh okay
- 00:25:15very important uh what can i do as a
- 00:25:17parent to further my child's development
- 00:25:20or to help to help further my child
- 00:25:22um i think from for young children for
- 00:25:25primary age children i would say um
- 00:25:28connecting with the teacher it's a
- 00:25:29partnership it's not home and school it
- 00:25:32is very much communicating and
- 00:25:33connecting with the teacher to find out
- 00:25:35how the child is doing teachers do the
- 00:25:37same they reach out to the parents and
- 00:25:39do that as well and knowing from them
- 00:25:41what is it that the parents can be doing
- 00:25:43at home um and continuing that so it's a
- 00:25:46continuation
- 00:25:47of the learning but at the same time you
- 00:25:51know those key things of spending time
- 00:25:52with your child reading uh talking about
- 00:25:55how the day was and seeing if they can
- 00:25:58transfer the you know those skills as
- 00:26:00well at home
- 00:26:01um
- 00:26:02it's yeah it's um
- 00:26:05say it's we let it happen naturally
- 00:26:07and
- 00:26:08we try not to focus so much on
- 00:26:10homework or
- 00:26:12uh cramming lots of activities uh it's
- 00:26:15very much we say reading is actually a
- 00:26:17habit it shouldn't be homework it's
- 00:26:19something that you do as a
- 00:26:21many children will be going oh yay
- 00:26:29working with parents to so they're
- 00:26:31having the same sort of values not the
- 00:26:32values that they necessarily had when
- 00:26:34they were at school yeah but the values
- 00:26:36that they're trying to develop in their
- 00:26:37children with with more than in this
- 00:26:40case
- 00:26:40yeah absolutely
- 00:26:42okay um talking about that i mean values
- 00:26:45in children how do you instill values in
- 00:26:48children
- 00:26:50why don't you say i think there's two
- 00:26:53ways of doing it
- 00:26:54one is you
- 00:26:56grab the bull by the horns and you
- 00:26:57actually give an assembly or a tutorial
- 00:27:00period or lesson on integrity for
- 00:27:03example that's exactly what i did with
- 00:27:04an assembly last week i gave an assembly
- 00:27:06on into integrity
- 00:27:08but i think more important than that is
- 00:27:10to teach these values
- 00:27:13more subtly
- 00:27:14what i mean
- 00:27:16by actually demonstrating to the pupils
- 00:27:18that's how we run the school so they
- 00:27:20just pick up on how the school runs
- 00:27:23so teaching skills teaching these things
- 00:27:25explicitly is good and it's very helpful
- 00:27:28but i think the implicit almost
- 00:27:30infecting the children
- 00:27:32with these skills is even more important
- 00:27:34don't use the word infection
- 00:27:41we're not quarantined
- 00:27:43but what do you mean
- 00:27:44it's about living living absolutely and
- 00:27:47i would say our teachers do that they
- 00:27:49role model uh those values that's the
- 00:27:51phrase that's looking for right modeling
- 00:27:53yes
- 00:27:54um and when obviously with younger
- 00:27:56children they they see the teacher
- 00:27:58modeling they may not recognize it so
- 00:28:00then it's about hey children did you see
- 00:28:02what i just did that was me being a
- 00:28:04risk-taker how was i doing that i
- 00:28:06did this so it's um
- 00:28:09maybe making a bit explicit but not
- 00:28:12you know almost analyzing yes asking him
- 00:28:14to analyze your your what you just did
- 00:28:16in a in a critical sense which we were
- 00:28:18talking about yeah
- 00:28:20very interesting i mean in terms of just
- 00:28:21going back to one of the questions we
- 00:28:23were talking about before but it talks
- 00:28:24about inside the school how can they
- 00:28:27parents
- 00:28:28what about outside the school well you
- 00:28:30know what can what can
- 00:28:31the school do to support the parent more
- 00:28:34you know um i think i mean we do the
- 00:28:37usual formal
- 00:28:39you know events such as workshops for
- 00:28:41parents um when we work obviously we
- 00:28:43mentioned transition we obviously have
- 00:28:45transition as well for our preschoolers
- 00:28:47coming into uh morgan college but i
- 00:28:49think
- 00:28:50one thing that um
- 00:28:52one thing that we do which might be a
- 00:28:54bit hidden is if we notice that a parent
- 00:28:56or a family might be having a challenge
- 00:28:58whether the challenge is with the child
- 00:29:00or the challenge as a family
- 00:29:03from a certain perspective then um i
- 00:29:06tend to reach out
- 00:29:07you know in a personal way by
- 00:29:10picking up the phone and actually that
- 00:29:12goes a long way than writing an email
- 00:29:14and maybe being misunderstood in the
- 00:29:16email as well and just to working with
- 00:29:19the parents so if you know it's a it's
- 00:29:21it's holistic so the pastoral side
- 00:29:23doesn't just stop with our pupils it's
- 00:29:25also
- 00:29:26for our parents sometimes so we offer
- 00:29:28support uh
- 00:29:30if there is a challenge and we also talk
- 00:29:32about if there are things that they
- 00:29:33could perhaps reach out to the school
- 00:29:36and talk about
- 00:29:37um and it's always confidential it's
- 00:29:39always a safe environment to talk about
- 00:29:40that so
- 00:29:42i think yeah that's something that our
- 00:29:44parents themselves have actually
- 00:29:46written back and said
- 00:29:48how grateful this is it sounds like this
- 00:29:49sort of skills skills for the child but
- 00:29:51also if if they would need it or if they
- 00:29:54feel they would like it there's also
- 00:29:55potentially skills help for the for the
- 00:29:57parents and something to happen
- 00:30:00we did a tremendous workshop the other
- 00:30:02week on uh child behavior and how to
- 00:30:04support behavior yes i thought that was
- 00:30:06yeah i thought that was incredibly well
- 00:30:08done yes and and that's an opportunity
- 00:30:10for parents then to also at the end say
- 00:30:13can i schedule a meeting with
- 00:30:15whoever's running the workshop um we
- 00:30:18leave our emails on on the slides and so
- 00:30:20on if they want to reach out and have a
- 00:30:21personal conversation
- 00:30:23by building that relationship as well
- 00:30:24between teacher and parent and and and
- 00:30:27teachers across the school and parents
- 00:30:29because
- 00:30:31masters you have a house system here as
- 00:30:32well
- 00:30:34which is another another way of
- 00:30:36sort of being able to focus in on the
- 00:30:38child a bit more personally and all that
- 00:30:40sort of so it's great is that really
- 00:30:41saying about communication we want
- 00:30:44parents to communicate with us let us
- 00:30:45know if something's happening at home
- 00:30:47but we put a big focus on that our
- 00:30:49teachers and things should be
- 00:30:51communicating home that should ever be
- 00:30:52surprises when parents get the report at
- 00:30:54the end of the year there should always
- 00:30:56be that communication actually our house
- 00:30:58system the class teachers in in primary
- 00:31:00um but the house tutors in in seniors
- 00:31:03there's a lot of communication that they
- 00:31:05do one-to-one either with the pupils to
- 00:31:08see how they're getting on and but also
- 00:31:09with the parents and that's something i
- 00:31:11think that schools should value that the
- 00:31:13communication out to the parents we're
- 00:31:14not teenagers like in senior school they
- 00:31:16don't always want the communication
- 00:31:18going between home and school but it's
- 00:31:20something we kind of think it's really
- 00:31:21important i can remember back that far
- 00:31:23but anyway i understand yeah well and
- 00:31:25then i think you know we're we're sort
- 00:31:27of
- 00:31:28about
- 00:31:2935 minutes or so so we it would go on
- 00:31:31for too long but i think just before we
- 00:31:33have two questions and answers how do
- 00:31:35you
- 00:31:36if they're people are if people are out
- 00:31:37there if they would like to know more
- 00:31:39information about marvin about the
- 00:31:40malevolent method about the skills of
- 00:31:42the
- 00:31:43the
- 00:31:45attitude the culture of melvin how how
- 00:31:47should they get in touch how should they
- 00:31:49reach out
- 00:31:51i shouldn't have denigrated uh our
- 00:31:53website or brochures
- 00:31:57they are a good place to start uh to go
- 00:32:00on the web website um and read about the
- 00:32:03school but i think even better that is
- 00:32:04to contact our admissions department and
- 00:32:06see whether you can uh have an
- 00:32:08appointment to come up and see the
- 00:32:10school as i say i think we all agree the
- 00:32:12best way of understanding what we're
- 00:32:14about is to come and see us in action i
- 00:32:16think that's the most important i think
- 00:32:18absolutely right yeah well thank you
- 00:32:19very much indeed for that uh absolutely
- 00:32:21brilliant um i think we're gonna just
- 00:32:23break now see if we've got any any
- 00:32:24questions
- 00:32:25from the public no
- 00:32:27okay so we haven't got any specific
- 00:32:29questions at the moment but i think what
- 00:32:30i'm going to try and do is just just go
- 00:32:31around and ask you just to give a quick
- 00:32:33a quick summing up if you're in in i
- 00:32:35don't know
- 00:32:3630 seconds if we can
- 00:32:38okay
- 00:32:40so who's going to start keep it simple
- 00:32:42i'm going to come to you first robin
- 00:32:45i would i'd i'd emphasize
- 00:32:48a couple of things one to go back to the
- 00:32:50conversation that we had a few minutes
- 00:32:52ago about the importance of skills um
- 00:32:56skills alongside knowledge i think that
- 00:32:58is where a good education
- 00:33:01has to go over the next few years it's
- 00:33:03um it is skill based and the other thing
- 00:33:06is is
- 00:33:08to come to malden and any other school
- 00:33:11you might be interested in the best way
- 00:33:12to find out what a school is like is to
- 00:33:14try to set up a visit
- 00:33:17absolutely thank you very much
- 00:33:19and for me i think just kind of
- 00:33:20summarizing the um parents should take
- 00:33:23some risks and kind of think of um
- 00:33:26schools being different
- 00:33:28what they went through and but exploring
- 00:33:30what the schools and when they do visit
- 00:33:31schools to really question um the
- 00:33:34schools in in terms of what is behind
- 00:33:36their curriculum okay the grades and
- 00:33:38statistics are one thing but but really
- 00:33:41can they kind of delve into the values
- 00:33:43of the
- 00:33:44actual school
- 00:33:46and maria um last but not least
- 00:33:49many things i would say communication uh
- 00:33:51once at that point of choosing the
- 00:33:53school communication ensuring that
- 00:33:54communication is an open channel if
- 00:33:56there is something done you know that is
- 00:33:59happening um don't shy away from telling
- 00:34:01it to the teacher as i mentioned you
- 00:34:03know knowing is actually better because
- 00:34:05we can support um an informed way but i
- 00:34:08would say um
- 00:34:10also looking for
- 00:34:12from the visit pick up the culture of
- 00:34:14the school and see if you know you'll be
- 00:34:16able to tell a child pulls you in like
- 00:34:18and they never rehearse it when they
- 00:34:20come up to you and pull you they it just
- 00:34:21happens
- 00:34:22um that's that gives you an indication
- 00:34:25of the environment yeah the environment
- 00:34:26of the school it's fantastic
- 00:34:28i've been i've been around a number of
- 00:34:30schools and they have been distinctly
- 00:34:32different so i can highly uh endorse
- 00:34:34that go and have a look at a number of
- 00:34:36schools by always and have a look at the
- 00:34:38culture and see which works for you but
- 00:34:41if modern culture does then then let's
- 00:34:43uh reach out to the admissions team and
- 00:34:44they'll be only too happy to help
- 00:34:46so i just want to say a big thank you to
- 00:34:48robin wayne and maria and to all of you
- 00:34:51out there um you know it's hard to know
- 00:34:53whether you are actually out there i'm
- 00:34:54just staring at a camera but anyway i'm
- 00:34:56sure you all are and i hope you found it
- 00:34:58useful what we'll be doing obviously is
- 00:35:00making this into a youtube and a podcast
- 00:35:02to be able to refer to it at your at
- 00:35:04your leisure um but please feel free to
- 00:35:06reach out to the admissions team here at
- 00:35:07mormon and they'll be too happy to help
- 00:35:09thanks again and uh see you soon cheers
- 00:35:12thank you very much
- 00:35:16you
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