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hello and welcome back and that's right
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today we're going to compare two of the
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current generation technology 8B devices
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and I think it's incredibly important to
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say right off the bat the whole reason
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for this video is because so so so so
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many users asked for it so much so I
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just naturally assumed I'd already made
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this video and it was until recently
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while running the support system again
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self-plug self-plug that we do our
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support system if you go to Kofi or
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patreon you can hire me or Eddie to help
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you out for a data consultation loads
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and loads and loads and loads of photo
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and video editors worldwide were asking
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about uh the best technology video
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editing Nas to go for and they were
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stuck between going for the DS 18 21
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plus and the DS1 1823 XS plus two nazes
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that cost about 800 to 1,000 nicker
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different in price I say NECA could be
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pounds could be dollars could be Euros
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could be Hong Kong dollars could be
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anything but ultim Ely the price
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difference between them knocking out
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about 800 to 1,000 nicker for two
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nazzies that look super duper similar
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and in today's video I'm going to
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compare them but I think it's pretty
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important I hate seagulls to highlight
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that frankly right off the bat I'm going
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to give you the tldr that 1821 plus is
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the Nob brainer choice and by the end of
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this video I would have explained why
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but right now if you are on the fence
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and you're looking for the quick quick
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quick quick quick quick answer to
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whether to go for the a21 Plus or the
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1823 XS plus I'll tell you right now
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it's the 1821 plus don't watch anymore
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go away that's the one to buy but if you
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still need a bit more convincing and you
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still want to know why I held that
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position let's go straight away let's
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talk about what they got in common
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regardless of which one of these to you
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go for you're going to get a sonology NZ
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you're going to get a sonology 8 bay Nas
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a sonology 8 bay Nas that supports eight
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Bay of storage you can populate it one
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by one if you choose so add drives every
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few years and expand the raid or you can
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fully populate it on day one they both
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arrive with two M2 mvme slots inside
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that could be used for caching or could
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be used for storage they both support
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adding expansion devices two of the
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dx517 expansions to add an additional 10
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Bays of storage to your overall storage
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array they also both arrived with
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support of the entirety of sonology DSM
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application and services and tools all
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of them if you want to run it these can
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do it with one notable exception later
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on I bet you can guess what it is um if
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you can guess what it is put it is in
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the comments with a timestamp but
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between the two of them you are getting
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a complete and ready to go sonology NZ
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platform but you didn't come here to
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know what's the same did you you want to
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know what's different you want to know
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which one's better for your needs and I
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tell you right now between the two of
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them the hardware architecture they both
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arve with AMD embedded uh riseon
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processors they're both quad core uh
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they both arrive with ECC ER correcting
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code memory but our big difference there
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is the um 1821 use a slight and I really
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do mean slightly older generation
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embedded Ryon from the v1000 series it
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arrives with a v 1500b a quadcore CPU
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that runs to 2.2 GHz per core no
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integrated graphics and the system
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arrives with 4 gig of ddr4 ECC memory
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that can upgrade it to 32 gig that CPU
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is an x86 processor that's four core
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eight threads so we got some lovely
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virtual CPUs that the system could
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assign to different tasks now 1823 XS
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plus again near enough identical but it
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uses a newer Generation Um uh V 1000
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series embedded processor the V
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178b now that has got a higher clot
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speed which means it has more power it
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will consume a bit more power in
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operation but it's got more power under
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the Bonnet FP accessible more precisely
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more than a GHz or 3.3 GHz base on its
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quad core architecture 4 core 8 thread
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that can also be bursted up to 3.6 GHz
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it also has 8 gig of ddr4 memory rather
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than the four again ECC upgradeable to
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32 gig now that was a lot of jargon
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wasn't it there was a lot of all that
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but what I'm saying is overall what you
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can take away from all of that Guff that
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I just said is this device here has got
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more memory so it can run more active
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processes at any given time it also has
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a higher clock speed CPU which means it
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has more power under the Bonnet to get
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things done ultimately the a23 means
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it's got more resources to do more so
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ultimately any given task that you hand
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to this this will use less of its total
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resources to get the job done which
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means it can do more that's what all
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that GFF me so at this point you're
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thinking why are you recommending that
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one why why that one when this one seems
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to be able to do a lot more well this
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can have its memory upgraded so even
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though obviously on paper they've got
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this you know very similar Hardware
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architecture and there's more to be done
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there if you're not going to use all
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that raw PA if you don't have have the
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largest Speck enough organization to
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take advantage of it you'd be paying for
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Hardware resources you may not use but
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there are ways to upgrade this system to
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that level down the line in a way where
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you can actually save money in upgrading
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this to this for the most part for less
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money than it cost to actually buy it
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but more on that later if we look at the
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port and connectivity of these devices
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there have some similar they both arrive
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with a you know multiple network
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interfaces there they both got USBS
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we're not even going to talk about the
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USBs cuz sonology supports external
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storage and not a huge amount else you
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can assign them to VMS and they're
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largely identical anyway and they both
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arrive with pcie upgrades Lots at
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Generation 3 * 8 speed so between the
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two of them quite similar however this
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device the a21 has got four gigabit
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Ethernet ports are on the rear now you
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can use one if you like you can have two
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have failover that means if one
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connection fails you still got a fall
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over one and you can also combine four
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of them together at 1 GB ethernet and
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those four ports together with link
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aggregation port trunking or SB multi
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Channel depending on your own protocol
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of choice to basically Crown them all
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into one even load balancing to take it
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in turns allows you to get up to 4 GB
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ethernet now this system has got two of
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those 1 gig ports but it's also got a 10
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GB Port those seals are really putting
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me through my Paces today aren't they
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that 10 gig Port off the bat is one of
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the reasons this things a lot more
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expensive you got faster CPU more memory
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you've also got a greater bandwidth
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there at the net on the network on the
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rear so you might be thinking again why
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are you recommending this device here
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when this device has clearly got more
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Network bandwidth out the gate you're
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right it's got 10 gig it's got a couple
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of twos so it's got 12 gig of potential
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Network bandwidth when this has only got
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four so why is this still your pick Rob
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why are you being weird don't call me
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weird well because this can be upgraded
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just like I mentioned you can get a 10
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gig upgrade card sonology 10 gig single
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port upgrade pick that up again that's
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about 120 to 150 nicker depending on
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your currency that means rather than
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spending 800 to 1,000 nicker more on
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this you could just go ahead and spend
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120 130 150 on the outside and add 10gbe
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you add that card this has now got 14
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gig of potential Network upgradeability
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there um on top of that there are
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numerous single and dual Port cards from
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sonology which means you can add two
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10gb ports if you want to of course you
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can do that on this of course you can
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but if you weren't going to use that
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anyway then it's not really an option
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now another thing we can talk about a
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big difference between these devices is
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warranty because warranty software
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warranty is effective lifetime 10 to 12
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years in most cases I've talked about in
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other videos but the hardware warranty
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is how long the brand will hold your
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hand in case of uh hardware issues on
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your system a guarantee a warranty
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whatever you want to call it with the
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1821 arriving with 3 years of warranty
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and the 1823 XS with 5 years and if
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you're a business 5 years of Hardware
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support sounds nice right well a lot of
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users don't seem to realize that Soni
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does warranty extensions which cost
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between um 50 and 60 nicker a year that
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means this threeyear warranty can be
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expanded to five years of warranty for
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between 100 to 120 nicker so so far if
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you spend an extra let's go maximum if
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you spend 150 quid you can add 10 GBE to
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that device if you spend another 10 120
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quid you can add 5year warranty to this
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device so that means to add 10gp and to
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get the same level of network
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connectivity the same level of support
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on this device right now is so far C
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costing us
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£270 remember the price difference
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between these was £800 to 1,000 necer
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now on top of that you're going to add 4
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gig of memory aren't you now sonology
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has its own in-house memory as well you
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can get their own memory modules and
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they've got 4 8 and 16 gig ECC memory
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modules so they're ready to go now the 4
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Gig module will set you back about 70 to
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80 nicker so again even when we throw
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that on the top there we're still living
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in the 3 to 400 nicker bracket and we've
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largely emulated everything here the
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only thing this seems to have that this
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doesn't is that highs speeded CPU and if
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you were never going to use it in the
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first place to its fullest extent you've
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saved yourself somewhere in a region of
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500 to 600 nicker just going for the
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older box and either one upgrading it on
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day one or gradually over time when you
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need these options options when you need
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10gb when you need more memory you can
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just add them and spread the cost over
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time ultimately meaning that you can
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save a bit of buns getting the at21 plus
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cheaper out the gate yes you're losing
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out on a higher Peak CPU performance and
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yes you are missing out on having all of
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these things on day one and do remember
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that the warranty needs to be applied
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quite early in your purchase for it to
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be applied but still nonetheless that's
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why at the beginning of this video I
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highlighted so strongly that the 1821 is
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the better choice of the two but it
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doesn't stop there if you were thinking
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the video was going to end roll credits
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it doesn't cuz there's actually two more
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reasons why this device is better than
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that one now number one this device
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supports sonology hybrid raid shr that
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is when in a standard raid configuration
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we can look at these devices here when
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you're adding drives gradually over time
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you know a few years from now there
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could be bigger hard drives on the
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market there could be be cheaper hard
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drives on the market the price per
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terabyte the average Drive may have come
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down significantly so when that happens
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you might want to add bigger drives over
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time right right right shr allows you to
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do that shr allows you to use the bigger
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and better
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drives XS series devices from techology
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do not support shr that's right how
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annoying is that the XS series will only
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support traditional raids which willough
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give you a higher performance will not
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allow you to use uh drives uh
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traditional raid array will see the
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smallest Drive in the array and class
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every single drive in it so you could
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have a 1tb drive and 7 10 TBS that
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system will treat every single one of
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them like 1 TB shr will allow you to mix
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and match those drives and that's a
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reason why the 1821 is going to be
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appealing for those of you that are
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going to be scaling up over time not
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just the network port and the memory and
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the warranty but because you can add and
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mix and match those other drives
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secondly when going for the 1821 Plus
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it's worth highlighting that there's an
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let's be realistic there's probably
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going to be an
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1824 Plus on the horizon there's going
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to be a newer generation unit just
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around the corner so when that newer
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generation unit comes out that newer
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generation unit almost certainly is
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going to have the same CPU as this we've
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seen it already with technology
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utilizing the V 178b on other devices
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and if a newer generation 8bit arrives
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on the scene with just that same CPU and
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you weren going to take advantage of
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that uh performance increase anyway that
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it's no point waiting for it but
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moreover when that newer generation unit
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comes out this one's going to get even
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cheaper so when this gets even cheaper
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you can still get all those upgrades and
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save yourself even more bunts ultimately
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between the two of them the 1821 plus
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just makes more sense I really like this
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and if you watch my review and my should
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you buy on the ds18 uh 23 XS plus I do
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think this is a really really good
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system I think it's a beefy system and I
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do recommend it but there's no denying
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that if you are someone looking at these
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two systems this one just makes more
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Fring sense and I recommend it above and
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beyond in the long run and in the
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shortterm as well thank you so much for
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watching again thank you I think to at
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least five or six Zoom consultations I
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did where people were making this
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comparisons and it's you guys that have
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helped me get this video ready and
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emulate these points so well so if you
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were one of you know who you are thank
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you so much for watching if you do need
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support in your setup if you're a photo
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video editor or any kind of uh a
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business or even home professional that
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needs a little bit of help in hand with
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your setup needs and choosing the right
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stuff first time use the zoom
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consultation option over on Kofi or
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coffee however it wants to pronounce
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itself or patreon the options are there
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you can hire me on Zoom for an hour it
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always overruns we don't care do check
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those out otherwise there should be a
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written guide on today's comparison you
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can use the free support section over on
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every page the Discord the um Aras
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Compares Community forum and of course
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subject of storage thank you so much for
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watching and have yourselves a bloody
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great week
