Angela Bern TV, Interviews with Friends & Enemies: Interview #7-Patti Curtis Hair

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Resumen

TLDRThis in-depth interview features Patti Curtis Hair, the founder of Folk Studios and Gallery, discussing her personal and professional journey as an artist and businesswoman in Seattle. Patti shares her greatest successes, including raising her daughter and overcoming personal challenges, as well as her professional achievements in the cosmetic industry and her current role as a curator for other artists. Through her gallery, she aims to provide a platform for artists over 50, addressing issues of ageism in the art community and advocating for their visibility and relevance. The conversation combines personal anecdotes with a message of empowerment and community support for artists.

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  • 🎨 Patti Curtis Hair is the founder of Folk Studios and Gallery in Georgetown, Seattle.
  • 👩‍🎨 The gallery focuses on artists over 50, promoting awareness about ageism.
  • 🌟 Patti highlights her daughter as her greatest personal success.
  • 💼 She faced significant professional challenges but continues to thrive.
  • 🍹 Patti created a healthy margarita-inspired drink to share during the interview.
  • 🤝 Community support via donations is essential for the gallery's growth.
  • 📚 Patti emphasizes the importance of authenticity in professional settings.
  • 🎖️ Oprah Winfrey featured one of Patti's products as a favorite, marking a career highlight.
  • 👁️‍🗨️ Personal transparency and honesty are key traits Patti values in friendships.
  • 👵 Changing perceptions of aging is a central goal of Patti's work.

Cronología

  • 00:00:00 - 00:05:00

    Angela Bern introduces Patti Curtis Hair, a visionary artist and businesswoman, in Georgetown, Seattle, at her gallery Folk Studios. They express excitement about the interview and ongoing artistic collaborations.

  • 00:05:00 - 00:10:00

    Patti shares that her greatest personal success is raising her daughter alone, highlighting her daughter's achievements and passion for her work, which fills Patti with pride.

  • 00:10:00 - 00:15:00

    Discussing failures, Patti reflects on her struggle starting a business during tough economic times, revealing the challenges she faced and what she learned from her experience.

  • 00:15:00 - 00:20:00

    Patti emphasizes how losing herself in her professional life felt like a failure, admitting her tendency to seek approval and how it impacted her self-worth and professional relationships.

  • 00:20:00 - 00:25:00

    Both Angela and Patti share personal anecdotes about the importance of self-identity and staying true to oneself, especially in a corporate environment.

  • 00:25:00 - 00:30:00

    Patti recounts her career journey in product development for cosmetic companies and reflects on the ups and downs, including dealing with ageism upon returning to Seattle and losing her job after turning 50.

  • 00:30:00 - 00:35:00

    Driven by the challenges of finding work, Patti returns to her artistic roots, leading her to her current gallery, where she supports fellow artists depending on their needs and experiences.

  • 00:35:00 - 00:40:00

    They discuss the importance of offering a supportive environment for artists over 50 and how Patti seeks to change the narrative around aging and art in her community.

  • 00:40:00 - 00:47:29

    Patti announces the recent sponsorship from Shunpike, enabling her gallery to accept tax-deductible donations, which will help provide artistic opportunities for older artists and expand the gallery's outreach programs.

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Vídeo de preguntas y respuestas

  • What is Folk Studios and Gallery?

    Folk Studios and Gallery is an art gallery in Georgetown, Seattle that features the works of artists, particularly those over 50.

  • What does Patti Curtis Hair emphasize about ageism?

    Patti discusses how ageism affects older artists and aims to create a supportive environment to help them feel relevant and valued.

  • How can people support Folk Studios and Gallery?

    Support can come through tax-deductible donations and purchasing artwork from the gallery.

  • What has been one of Patti's proudest professional moments?

    One of Patti's proudest moments was when one of her products was picked as an Oprah's favorite thing for the holiday.

  • What is the focus of the art exhibited at the gallery?

    The gallery highlights the creativity and work of artists over 50.

  • What personal challenges has Patti faced?

    Patti shared about the personal challenges of raising her daughter alone and losing her business during the 2008 crisis.

  • What significant achievements does Patti have in her career?

    Patti has a background in product development for a major cosmetics company and has received recognition such as awards for her work.

  • How does Patti view her relationship with herself now?

    Patti feels her relationship with herself is better than ever, reflecting on her journey of self-discovery and acceptance.

  • What does Patti have planned for the future of her gallery?

    Patti aims to expand the gallery's outreach to provide more opportunities for older artists to showcase their work.

  • What type of drink does Patti enjoy sharing in the interview?

    Patti shares a light, margarita-inspired drink she created for a healthier lifestyle.

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    okay everyone interview number seven
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    Angela Bern here your host interviews
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    with friends and enemies we are here
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    with Patti Curtis hair folks studios and
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    gallery and we want to know about Patti
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    so we're gonna just dive deep
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    straightaway Patti all righty
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    hopefully I'm in the friends category
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    not the enemies okay after the interview
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    do you want to know that no I have been
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    waiting for someone to ask that on
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    screen I have had a few people say no
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    how do you know my friend or enemy I
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    know I think I'm a friend I know I think
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    we'll see how this goes no see look at
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    the after after
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    I'll meet okay so we're gonna dive
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    straight it is alright let's go brighter
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    so um when you think about yourself
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    personally and professionally and we
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    know that those um those two categories
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    aren't so isolated right as we're
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    professional women strong women not a
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    lot of time to work we're hopefully
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    following our passion we're doing
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    something that we love to do and so we
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    it feels personal sometimes right right
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    okay so if we're just trying to stay as
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    personal as possible what would you say
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    has been one of your greatest or your
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    greatest personal success personally I
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    would have to say my daughter oh yeah I
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    raised her on my own essentially since
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    she was about six I would say I'm and
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    her dad know go to Hawaii and yeah you
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    know so kind of dropped off the face and
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    she is a lovely 26 year old college
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    graduate living her dream living her
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    passion working at the Woodland Park Zoo
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    got a degree in biology it's a nonprofit
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    she does make a lot of money but she
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    loves it she just posted on Instagram
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    yesterday I can I fall in love with my
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    job more and more every day it's like
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    what a gift at 26 2015 5 and going oh I
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    really actually like my job alive yeah
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    right I mean there's
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    but yeah well and it's a fantasy I think
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    of any parent to hear their child or you
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    know you have one right so she's the one
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    yeah that you're counting on ya to find
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    her happiness
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    absolutely and she's like somehow hot
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    that's crazy
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    yeah she's found it and she she's
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    working towards it it took her a little
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    while yeah but so proud of her so that's
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    that's such a huge accomplishment
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    especially when you do it just by
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    yourself yeah yeah yeah yeah because I
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    mean I've talked with another guest I'm
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    Jamie Goldberg and we we both had had
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    experiences of co-parenting and then of
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    single parenting and so for you the
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    majority I mean at this point it's like
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    you were you were the single parent
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    after six or around six or after so yeah
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    the big a lot of big years big things
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    happen it definitely yeah
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    okay I like that I like that um now and
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    I got to see a picture of her just Becky
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    post it cuz you to have birthdays that
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    are just one way art okay which is we're
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    talking about this but you're a Virgo
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    yeah it's not a usual part of the
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    interview but I can't help it yeah yeah
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    alright yeah ok so because I was trying
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    to pick the fuzzy yeah very very birth
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    yes everything is all like that's a
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    little crooked yeah yeah oh my god I
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    don't this way yeah that's okay I like
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    it about symmetry yeah it's good as an
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    artist I appreciate that and you being
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    one as well of course um okay so then
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    personally still you know what we just
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    thing has been one of your greatest or d
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    greatest or one of your greatest
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    failures personally oh gosh I would say
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    well it's it's interesting because um
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    it's kind of a professional thing that I
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    did I started my own business about
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    eight years ago and I lost my job and so
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    I'm like oh my god I gotta do something
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    he was during 2008 so just got back so
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    it was it was brutal for everyone and um
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    I lost my house my dog got run over by a
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    car he'll run and killed my daughter had
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    a seizure at Disneyland when her band
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    and it just all happened at one
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    yeah and so I took my 401k money a
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    little bit that I had and I started my
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    own business called jet say the girl and
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    it was creams and lotions and body care
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    and then I repurposed vintage jewelry
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    that's why I built I had a friend helped
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    me build a website in any e-commerce
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    site and they did a grand opening and I
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    had business cards and I spent all this
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    like I still worked for a company doing
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    product development so yeah just kind of
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    my professional world and I didn't go
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    out and sell it I think I was really
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    depressed yeah and I was very
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    overwhelmed but I didn't do the I didn't
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    do the work yeah I mean I look back in
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    it now I'm like I failed at that I mean
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    I failed I needed to knock on doors and
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    say look I had this great product when
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    you carried in your store is great stuff
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    I thought that I'll just build this
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    website you know calm I know better than
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    that yeah so I failed myself and I feel
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    like I failed my family a little bit
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    yeah no I just feeling I just when
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    you're saying it I know now as a
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    business owner once again it's like you
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    really have to put the time in and the
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    work in and you can't just expect it to
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    happen right and I expected it to happen
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    I'm not sure what I expected but I
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    really feel that that and then I also
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    lost my 401 K right do you know every
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    yeah yeah I like in pretty much every
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    arena I mean I I can think of one and
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    that wasn't that wasn't mentioned but in
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    every other arena you you had a lot at
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    stake yeah and then too and I really can
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    understand really relate to and
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    understand that because one of the
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    things I started a business in 2005 and
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    downsized it in 2009 called red in
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    downtown Seattle was of a big venture
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    and one of the things that I didn't
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    think about I knew that I wanted to
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    create this I knew
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    the industry I knew that I loved it and
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    would love the feeling but what I didn't
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    think about is I didn't think about the
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    longevity just let's have a little aside
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    for all the folks telling them that
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    whenever you come to Georgetown you're
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    gonna hear about it trade ya dirt
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    anymore
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    I know you don't even notice when jets
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    fly directly over your head and
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    everybody slipped that stuff from here
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    it's like oh my god and I'm just like oh
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    yeah okay it's always funny
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    I know it's kind of and it's fun I
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    actually really like that it's the
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    industrial feel it and it's why it's
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    such a popular haven for artists and for
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    art going people right now so anyway
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    okay so back to just I did not think of
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    the longevity and what it was going to
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    take to run a large business for a long
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    period of time and in my mind I just
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    loved all the pieces of it so I didn't
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    think about that
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    and therefore I wasn't planning for ten
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    years from now I just thought it's gonna
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    work right right so I'm just saying this
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    in relation to someone risking
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    everything
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    same same thing so I think that one of
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    the the woman who actually introduced us
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    I think probably knew a little bit about
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    what we were like and what our lives
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    right similar backgrounds yeah so funny
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    okay so so yes I can very much
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    understand that and it's it's what makes
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    me more intrigued by you and appreciate
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    you in the capacity that I've come to
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    know you just recently hearing this too
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    so and that's what I want other people
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    to know about you like the woman the
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    Patti right here is here I am women okay
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    so um so then if we're talking about
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    professionally and again you know we
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    know this is personal and professional
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    okay we're talking about professionally
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    so what would you say has been one of
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    your greatest failures professionally
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    just as straight professional as you can
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    I think that I've lost myself before in
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    my job and compromised
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    and to me that's that's failing myself
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    yeah and you're never successful when
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    you're not yourself and you try to be
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    something that you think other people
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    want you to be and that just not you
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    here in the wrong place
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    yeah you're with the wrong people yep
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    and you constantly feel berated and
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    attacked but you did it to yourself
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    because I've said self-sabotage before -
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    yeah and then overcompensate it
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    organ-like to needy or like I don't like
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    me you should like me right
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    don't you like me and it's like gross
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    nobody likes you when you do that nobody
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    wants that it's the same thing in the
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    dating world others do you like you
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    think I'm cute - here can we go out
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    again yeah yeah no you just horribly me
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    and it we've all done it we have done it
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    and it and it's like God you know when
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    it takes you so long to figure this
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    out yes you can you can take it we're
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    swearing no I do the other by the other
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    effort I love way more than the failure
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    effort is you know reaction I think of
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    all I'm smoking right now
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    yes okay so we you're absolutely right
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    we've all been there yeah but all been
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    in that place in one way or another
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    small or large little ways big way right
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    you feel it you feel in your gut you
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    know it's happening and you can't stop
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    yourself when yourself fire like you
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    hear the words coming out of your mouth
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    and like stop talking stop talking stop
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    talking you're not stop talking you're
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    still talking oh my god shut up and it's
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    like yeah get some self-control woman
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    and still I you know what but still to
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    this day I still have kind of that
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    person yeah
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    and sometimes it's just like yeah shut
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    up I mean yeah I get it I get it and we
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    all do actually I mean so yeah okay
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    so I that's a profession so when you're
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    in a corporate environment no not
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    usually the best idea to speak you're
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    exactly what you think you know here
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    it's a little different because it's
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    like oh that's right
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    my gallery was like yeah yeah it's my
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    kid yeah yeah yeah do you want to know
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    that I want um
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    when I was probably 22 I went into what
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    we called the the the coffee table chats
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    you know built after the
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    many weights too old for a lot of people
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    but I'm with Jeanne Juarez the man yet
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    who I worked for a long time are your
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    GIS and we didn't even know that when we
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    first met okay so I'm sitting at a table
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    with Jeanne Juarez the man who is very
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    elegant and in the way that he thinks of
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    his business very Virgo in a certain way
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    meaning you know very particular and I
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    knew this and I have known him since I
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    was 17
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    working for the Bellevue um so on so
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    this is going to a place that is good in
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    that I'm sitting there as a 23 year old
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    college snot right and he's at the table
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    this man who's built an empire of a
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    business unparalleled in this area
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    definitely a lot of people are around
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    seasoned professionals and we're there
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    to talk about what we could do to
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    improve the business and I pull out a
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    bunch of bic pen caps a whole host of
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    them and I throw them toss them out it
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    would great ceremony on the table and I
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    say well we should really be recycling
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    these that was your concert that with it
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    and he I mean when I think back about it
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    I'm like what in the like if and I've
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    had that happen to me
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    I mean I've been in his shoes and read
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    and and think okay I can't believe that
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    I did that and I can't believe that I
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    thought that that was the biggest deal
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    that we had to talk about that was gonna
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    make business by your level of
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    experience right life experience and and
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    like I have this amazing idea
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    yeah we can we're gonna love it yeah
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    we're gonna use a different pen me this
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    is here you should have a solution I
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    just dumped them all out there and he's
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    like I turn in your defense you were a
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    forefront of recycling in McCormick's
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    recycled plastics right yeah because it
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    was like the early 50s meeting edged up
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    late 60s maybe probably no I don't know
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    you know I don't mind those things
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    anymore like a desert age you don't mind
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    what someone makes photos
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    how are but for a while in you're in
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    your mid-30s you really do perfect in
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    the mid-40s yeah even yeah okay all
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    right okay so I like this this is button
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    alright so um in terms of friends we are
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    so far yeah I don't know it's touchy and
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    you did stand up for me you know you
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    made me feel better about my pen cap
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    dropping okay so so when you think about
  • 00:14:00
    your your professional life still right
  • 00:14:02
    and then then talk to me just a little
  • 00:14:05
    bit more about and I want to kind of in
  • 00:14:08
    this case for you special for you since
  • 00:14:10
    we're friends know I'm friends with in
  • 00:14:12
    front of the most people to some degree
  • 00:14:14
    so so talk to me a little about what you
  • 00:14:18
    want to say about your professional
  • 00:14:20
    career in terms of failures successes
  • 00:14:23
    just to kind of because you've had quite
  • 00:14:25
    a grand career huge so I don't a lot of
  • 00:14:28
    stuff yes so is if there is something
  • 00:14:31
    that you could say that would explain a
  • 00:14:34
    little bit more in your words about what
  • 00:14:36
    has been important to this day about
  • 00:14:39
    your professional career what would be
  • 00:14:41
    the most important thing I would say
  • 00:14:45
    everything that I've gleaned from my
  • 00:14:48
    global travels yeah from my success as I
  • 00:14:51
    was a product developer for a cosmetic
  • 00:14:53
    company and that's maybe 14 whereas they
  • 00:14:55
    did the product development for their
  • 00:14:57
    private label lines yeah and it was kind
  • 00:14:59
    of my first private label gig I sort of
  • 00:15:02
    fancied my vernacular then I post myself
  • 00:15:07
    on my resume because that's really what
  • 00:15:08
    I wanted to get into yeah I started out
  • 00:15:10
    as a counter girl in cosmetics and you
  • 00:15:13
    know a smart girl you know and I'm a
  • 00:15:15
    makeup artist and then it just evolved
  • 00:15:17
    into that then I worked for Sebastian
  • 00:15:18
    haircare and that was very glamorous and
  • 00:15:20
    and gene where's carried Sebastian a
  • 00:15:22
    very long time back in the day and so I
  • 00:15:25
    had this kind of glamorous cosmetic
  • 00:15:27
    career and I couldn't travel anymore
  • 00:15:31
    because my daughter yeah and so I had to
  • 00:15:34
    because I was traveling all over and for
  • 00:15:37
    business and so I got that job at you
  • 00:15:40
    whereas and I kind of fudged my mind
  • 00:15:41
    there was a mean girl and in my mom's my
  • 00:15:44
    mom and I like best friends and my mom
  • 00:15:45
    goes why is it every job you have
  • 00:15:47
    there's a mean girl that picks on you
  • 00:15:48
    and I got I don't know I don't know I
  • 00:15:50
    want to be good like every job I've ever
  • 00:15:55
    done it there's always someone even here
  • 00:15:56
    in the gallery yeah in my business with
  • 00:15:59
    now I need to have an artist all over
  • 00:16:01
    the age of 50 and they're still you're
  • 00:16:04
    still hot yeah just don't happen in that
  • 00:16:06
    looking at me it's too much god it's
  • 00:16:08
    never gonna end
  • 00:16:09
    so you know it's it's getting over the
  • 00:16:12
    whole mean girl thing and stop taking it
  • 00:16:13
    personally yeah and taking all of those
  • 00:16:16
    experiences that I've done yeah and
  • 00:16:18
    applying them to what I'm doing now yeah
  • 00:16:21
    and if I miss some the whole my part so
  • 00:16:24
    I do that happen but some of your parts
  • 00:16:25
    yes and I've had a very illustrious
  • 00:16:29
    career one of one of my best
  • 00:16:32
    accomplishments or proudest moments was
  • 00:16:34
    Oprah Winfrey picked one of my products
  • 00:16:36
    is her favorite thing for holiday okay
  • 00:16:39
    and it was really awesome and there was
  • 00:16:41
    this nail polish collection I did for
  • 00:16:43
    this local beauty company here and I got
  • 00:16:45
    to name I named all the colors after my
  • 00:16:47
    family
  • 00:16:48
    oh just kind of fun yeah what was one of
  • 00:16:51
    the name
  • 00:16:51
    well there's Camille there was a patty
  • 00:16:53
    so what can watch my daughter my mom
  • 00:16:55
    Barbara yeah so it was really fun that I
  • 00:16:57
    got to it my nos Christine and yeah did
  • 00:17:00
    Oprah know that just a quick aside no
  • 00:17:02
    curious okay okay that's rare because
  • 00:17:03
    it's such a sweet thing like I know yeah
  • 00:17:05
    so it's like my own personal little
  • 00:17:07
    touch to it that you know that only my
  • 00:17:09
    friends and family knew and I'm so that
  • 00:17:13
    was really exciting for me and then with
  • 00:17:16
    that same company won a huge award for
  • 00:17:18
    the best indie brand and although the
  • 00:17:21
    CEO takes all the credit it's really
  • 00:17:23
    product development yeah that made the
  • 00:17:25
    products that made it cool that maybe
  • 00:17:27
    people want to buy it yeah so there's a
  • 00:17:30
    lot of pressure in product development
  • 00:17:30
    yeah and so like the last gig I had
  • 00:17:34
    it was a half a billion dollar company
  • 00:17:36
    mmm-hmm and if you were making products
  • 00:17:39
    and they don't sell yeah big trouble
  • 00:17:41
    yeah it's sort of like where the rubber
  • 00:17:43
    meets the road pretty much it kind of
  • 00:17:46
    goes right back yeah yeah cuz then the
  • 00:17:48
    sales guys or gals will say to you well
  • 00:17:50
    you know if you made good product it
  • 00:17:51
    went this so hard to sell right so it's
  • 00:17:53
    on its own you could tell okay then you
  • 00:17:56
    can sell these products right right how
  • 00:17:59
    about that but yeah it was it was all my
  • 00:18:01
    shoulders and so in with that job I was
  • 00:18:04
    a director and then I was traveling all
  • 00:18:06
    over the world again like yeah I was
  • 00:18:07
    proud I'm going to Paris go to Milan I'm
  • 00:18:09
    going to China and council Fanti right
  • 00:18:11
    and it sounds fancy it's not that
  • 00:18:13
    glamorous but I bet it's like it's not a
  • 00:18:15
    healthy feeling stuff it's pretty cool
  • 00:18:17
    I'm going to Paris for work early yeah
  • 00:18:19
    important axis yeah oh you heard me on
  • 00:18:22
    again all right but when I went to shins
  • 00:18:24
    into the factory and stay in a dorm yeah
  • 00:18:26
    it wasn't so fancy yeah the middle yeah
  • 00:18:29
    I don't like that that's okay I mean I'm
  • 00:18:32
    in dorm food yeah oh geez anyway I
  • 00:18:35
    digress
  • 00:18:35
    I couldn't swarm so but they let
  • 00:18:37
    everybody go over the age of 50 within
  • 00:18:38
    that company for the most part oh and I
  • 00:18:40
    was living in LA at the time yeah and
  • 00:18:42
    I'd really miss yellow I've been down
  • 00:18:44
    there three and a half years and my
  • 00:18:46
    boyfriend I just packed it up and came
  • 00:18:48
    back to Seattle and when I got back here
  • 00:18:51
    there was no jobs for me at 53 yeah and
  • 00:18:54
    I really felt the ageism in particular
  • 00:18:57
    here in in Seattle with the youth driven
  • 00:19:00
    tech culture yeah and I think it's like
  • 00:19:02
    that for a lot of people in San
  • 00:19:03
    Francisco to protect towns yeah and it
  • 00:19:06
    was palpable I couldn't even get any
  • 00:19:07
    Rhino Wow
  • 00:19:08
    yeah a resume I have a person favorite
  • 00:19:10
    things I mean come on wouldn't wait a
  • 00:19:12
    minute right it's like that's year yeah
  • 00:19:15
    and nothing nothing and so I got this
  • 00:19:18
    idea to do my art and I hadn't done art
  • 00:19:20
    for 25 years I went to Cornish yeah and
  • 00:19:22
    I got my art degree but I had a baby
  • 00:19:24
    yeah yeah someone had to work how to put
  • 00:19:27
    that on hold it down hold and
  • 00:19:29
    I got this idea to do this art and then
  • 00:19:32
    I a friend of mine owns the West five
  • 00:19:34
    and what Seattle yeah that cute little
  • 00:19:35
    breast yacht and you'll psyche hanger
  • 00:19:37
    right here and I did a nice look like 15
  • 00:19:39
    pieces
  • 00:19:39
    Oh a month so that gave you that so that
  • 00:19:42
    gave me some confidence in that because
  • 00:19:44
    a lot of artists we it's it's like
  • 00:19:47
    actors and writers and it's confident
  • 00:19:49
    yeah I know it's you have to give
  • 00:19:51
    yourself a pep talk every single day
  • 00:19:53
    because it's your soul yeah it's just
  • 00:19:56
    it's just your insides it's not a big
  • 00:19:58
    deal nothing you say no okay
  • 00:20:01
    but you have to get it thick skin and
  • 00:20:03
    since I've I've been doing products and
  • 00:20:06
    launching things and have people go what
  • 00:20:08
    the hell right it's dumb yeah you know
  • 00:20:10
    when people say there are no dumb
  • 00:20:12
    questions and yeah they're wrong
  • 00:20:13
    yeah yeah I'm actually I mean I think
  • 00:20:16
    that you you really speak to something
  • 00:20:18
    that that definitely because you've got
  • 00:20:21
    this gallery there are artists who are
  • 00:20:22
    coming to you and it and frankly it's
  • 00:20:24
    like you know I you and I met because
  • 00:20:26
    I'm also an artist and so a painter
  • 00:20:28
    animus thank you happens to be right
  • 00:20:30
    here in folks it's a gallery located
  • 00:20:32
    55:19 airport myself Georgetown oh
  • 00:20:35
    you're not gonna make the same mistake
  • 00:20:36
    that you did with your first business is
  • 00:20:39
    the point you know that yes it's like
  • 00:20:41
    come on down okay so we'll get to that
  • 00:20:43
    too so so one um so one of the things
  • 00:20:48
    when we think about like being artist
  • 00:20:50
    we've got you've got this gallery you're
  • 00:20:52
    the you're the kind of figurehead of the
  • 00:20:54
    gallery as well as the art is I just
  • 00:20:57
    saying not because anyone who comes in
  • 00:20:59
    they meet with you technically right
  • 00:21:01
    they go through you you are the
  • 00:21:03
    gatekeeper you are the curator and so
  • 00:21:06
    when people come into this gallery it's
  • 00:21:09
    not that it's a collective that has not
  • 00:21:12
    been curated and I feel like I want to
  • 00:21:14
    say that because the other part of what
  • 00:21:19
    happens when you're the business owner
  • 00:21:21
    when you've got a lot of people who
  • 00:21:22
    you're working with is that you um you
  • 00:21:25
    you're wearing a lot of hats and there's
  • 00:21:27
    a there's a risk and like we were
  • 00:21:30
    I came out earlier there can be this
  • 00:21:32
    sense of like oh who who likes me who do
  • 00:21:35
    I like right and there are lots of
  • 00:21:37
    things that go on
  • 00:21:38
    so for you right now if you think about
  • 00:21:43
    yourself right and what we've talked
  • 00:21:46
    about and this first question is what
  • 00:21:49
    would you say in your relationship with
  • 00:21:52
    yourself is like right now like so right
  • 00:21:55
    now as we sit here how is your
  • 00:21:57
    relationship with yourself better than
  • 00:21:59
    it's ever been in my entire life
  • 00:22:01
    yeah I think that it took it was such a
  • 00:22:04
    hard road yeah and a lot of ups and
  • 00:22:07
    downs a lot of self-doubt and and just
  • 00:22:12
    being a survivor yeah
  • 00:22:14
    and an entrepreneurial spirit where it's
  • 00:22:16
    like I'll just okay I'll do that now
  • 00:22:17
    yeah I mean I worked at Starbucks
  • 00:22:19
    designing their tumblers yeah yeah I
  • 00:22:21
    product irrelevance like sure I might do
  • 00:22:24
    that
  • 00:22:24
    yeah not I can do that I was the
  • 00:22:26
    sculpting major I know I work with
  • 00:22:27
    metals and shapes and colors and I don't
  • 00:22:29
    I can do it I could sure pick me ready
  • 00:22:32
    you know I've done some really
  • 00:22:33
    interesting things but all of them have
  • 00:22:35
    kind of had to do with retail consumer
  • 00:22:38
    merchandising and marketing and design
  • 00:22:40
    right so with all that some of
  • 00:22:42
    experience that I've been doing since I
  • 00:22:44
    was my first job and maybe it was I was
  • 00:22:47
    19 and we're downwards and nor day or
  • 00:22:49
    driver at the Elizabeth Arden salon but
  • 00:22:51
    and I was when I had my vote such person
  • 00:22:53
    right my back and there's a paper resume
  • 00:22:56
    you were super young yeah the-- and I
  • 00:22:57
    didn't I don't think I had a resume
  • 00:22:59
    right worked at the skate key and I
  • 00:23:01
    Godfather's Pizza remember me - yeah um
  • 00:23:03
    in a while so I just went down and I was
  • 00:23:06
    I moved down there and my dad was living
  • 00:23:08
    down there my parents had gotten
  • 00:23:10
    divorced and I said I go I think I'm
  • 00:23:12
    gonna work in retail yeah I was
  • 00:23:13
    referring to college he's like okay well
  • 00:23:15
    you better go get yourself a job do it
  • 00:23:17
    because where you gonna go and I got I
  • 00:23:18
    think I'm not gonna Rodeo Drive he's
  • 00:23:20
    like good shot you're okay well if they
  • 00:23:23
    were over it to this out I go in there
  • 00:23:25
    and it was just like pretty woman but
  • 00:23:26
    know that enjoy your Roberts but there
  • 00:23:28
    we go hi I was waiting for you Dobbs and
  • 00:23:30
    they're like no you don't know what's
  • 00:23:36
    going on yeah yeah so
  • 00:23:38
    I got a job though yeah but the rest but
  • 00:23:41
    it's being a risk-taker since I was a
  • 00:23:44
    kid
  • 00:23:45
    yeah I'm sorry that's just who I am yeah
  • 00:23:47
    and you just have to keep going yeah and
  • 00:23:49
    you know things get hard yeah you know
  • 00:23:51
    if I've had failed marriages and it's
  • 00:23:53
    like things are things get party you
  • 00:23:55
    have to keep going and now that I'm
  • 00:23:57
    working with 27 artists and I'm up right
  • 00:24:00
    now visual artists we have some
  • 00:24:01
    musicians and writers as well poets the
  • 00:24:05
    people that I work with now yeah have
  • 00:24:07
    all had a life like that right you know
  • 00:24:10
    different yeah some summer mom's right
  • 00:24:13
    and some our school teachers are an
  • 00:24:15
    environmental scientist yeah there's a
  • 00:24:18
    retired vice president of tech guy right
  • 00:24:20
    there's you know there's like this these
  • 00:24:23
    sculptures back here from a
  • 00:24:24
    schoolteacher right yeah it's so it's
  • 00:24:27
    yeah then the Heather Sadler on these
  • 00:24:28
    beautiful paintings back here from Jane
  • 00:24:30
    communis who's been a famous artist in
  • 00:24:33
    New York and she's now living here with
  • 00:24:35
    her daughter-in-law and son along and I
  • 00:24:38
    got to talk with her yeah she's pretty
  • 00:24:40
    amazing it was amazing
  • 00:24:41
    yeah and she's a survivor she's survivor
  • 00:24:43
    of spine cancer yeah yeah and you're
  • 00:24:46
    writing like what yeah when we get to
  • 00:24:48
    this point like we all have our stories
  • 00:24:50
    and so finding out for me like I
  • 00:24:52
    especially love to find out well how you
  • 00:24:54
    know the question I asked you how would
  • 00:24:56
    your relationship with yourself and I
  • 00:24:58
    enjoyed hearing what what that looks
  • 00:25:01
    like for people at different ages and so
  • 00:25:03
    thinking about as well what would you
  • 00:25:07
    say if if there was something what could
  • 00:25:10
    make someone consider you at this point
  • 00:25:12
    in your life and envy you know the the
  • 00:25:14
    that interviews with friends and enemies
  • 00:25:16
    like what could what might someone see
  • 00:25:20
    in you or think about that might make
  • 00:25:22
    them consider you an enemy um not
  • 00:25:25
    everybody gets in the gallery yeah and I
  • 00:25:27
    had I had a real pissing match with
  • 00:25:29
    somebody that I didn't think that it
  • 00:25:32
    their work was the quality that's hard
  • 00:25:34
    to tell somebody yeah and you know in
  • 00:25:36
    the way I told her that I
  • 00:25:38
    that her work was I liked that she was
  • 00:25:40
    that she technically was a good artist
  • 00:25:42
    yeah but her subject matter wasn't right
  • 00:25:43
    for my gallery yeah and I said you know
  • 00:25:45
    bring something else in right and it she
  • 00:25:47
    got really mad yeah I made she told a
  • 00:25:49
    friend of a friend and then he just
  • 00:25:51
    ripped me like how dare you who do you
  • 00:25:54
    think you are
  • 00:25:55
    what do you think this is and and I'm
  • 00:25:57
    like well it's kind of my my rules my
  • 00:26:00
    gallery my real type here and here it's
  • 00:26:01
    not it's not little unhitch and I wrote
  • 00:26:03
    that was this email or and I wrote
  • 00:26:05
    Jackie Sissel Italy yeah everybody that
  • 00:26:07
    tries out this I make the team sorry
  • 00:26:10
    that's how how life works not everybody
  • 00:26:11
    gets a trophy yeah you know yeah people
  • 00:26:14
    that raise their kids that way big
  • 00:26:15
    mistake because not everybody gets
  • 00:26:17
    trophy yeah I'm not everybody wins and
  • 00:26:18
    you know and it wasn't no it was not
  • 00:26:21
    right now exactly yeah that really took
  • 00:26:23
    it hard and I think that that those are
  • 00:26:24
    the people that think that I they have
  • 00:26:26
    an enemy that could mean right and it's
  • 00:26:28
    like you know what it's it's not
  • 00:26:30
    personal
  • 00:26:31
    yeah it is I didn't use yeah well and
  • 00:26:35
    also what I've noticed to just didn't I
  • 00:26:37
    mean not you don't need me to be be
  • 00:26:40
    defending you but I think that most most
  • 00:26:44
    business owners you know when it's
  • 00:26:47
    essentially like hiring someone are not
  • 00:26:49
    hiring someone it's that you think that
  • 00:26:51
    they're the right fit for what is going
  • 00:26:53
    on it's not personal it's about the
  • 00:26:55
    business and you're making a business
  • 00:26:56
    decision and so that is something
  • 00:26:59
    because of what we talked about when
  • 00:27:00
    people are bringing their art but quite
  • 00:27:04
    honestly when you're when you're
  • 00:27:06
    applying for a job you're bringing
  • 00:27:08
    yourself so it's all serious and we all
  • 00:27:10
    have to step up I remember when you and
  • 00:27:12
    I first talked and I said listen patty
  • 00:27:14
    I'm love the gallery this is a gallery
  • 00:27:16
    I'd like to show in however it's not my
  • 00:27:19
    first rodeo and you're not gonna hurt my
  • 00:27:21
    feelings inside I'm like of course
  • 00:27:23
    you're gonna hurt my feelings but not
  • 00:27:24
    you're not gonna hurt my feeling crap
  • 00:27:26
    passionate yet and you're not gonna make
  • 00:27:28
    me think I'm not a good artist and I'm
  • 00:27:30
    I've heard no before and I've heard yes
  • 00:27:34
    before but I choose you you know what I
  • 00:27:36
    mean it was like I want to come right
  • 00:27:38
    fully forward when I'm doing a thing
  • 00:27:40
    like with the interviews it's like I
  • 00:27:42
    want to interview people I want to find
  • 00:27:43
    things out so this is a great question
  • 00:27:47
    of corollary
  • 00:27:48
    question is what would make someone
  • 00:27:50
    consider you a friend
  • 00:27:53
    I think that I'm extremely supportive
  • 00:27:55
    yeah and I'm honest and you always know
  • 00:27:57
    where you stand with me that's what my
  • 00:27:58
    girlfriend would say to me yeah it's
  • 00:28:00
    like well there's no gray with Patti but
  • 00:28:05
    it's not it's ever mean I'm not never
  • 00:28:07
    know it's never mean-spirited a purpose
  • 00:28:09
    that intention I've never the intention
  • 00:28:11
    you never mean and the intention is
  • 00:28:12
    always just like being honest yeah being
  • 00:28:16
    a friend and being a communicator yeah
  • 00:28:19
    and I think that that's that people know
  • 00:28:22
    when we're friends yeah it's not a
  • 00:28:25
    secret you're like um just ask them just
  • 00:28:29
    ask someone they'll tell you my friend
  • 00:28:31
    or not no but yeah I know I see that I
  • 00:28:33
    can see that and you know sometimes we a
  • 00:28:36
    good friend of mine shared with me once
  • 00:28:38
    and and he said you know something about
  • 00:28:41
    you is that your your strengths I think
  • 00:28:45
    that your strengths that you consider
  • 00:28:47
    your strengths are really your
  • 00:28:47
    weaknesses and he was just telling me
  • 00:28:49
    that it's personally yeah and I think
  • 00:28:50
    that your weaknesses are actually your
  • 00:28:52
    strengths and it's funny because one of
  • 00:28:53
    the things that I think of when I think
  • 00:28:55
    of you because I've gotten to see you in
  • 00:28:57
    action business-wise is that I feel like
  • 00:29:00
    I don't normally do this in the
  • 00:29:01
    interview but I feel like you you have a
  • 00:29:04
    very soft gentle heart and I feel like
  • 00:29:09
    you people with soft gentle hearts are
  • 00:29:13
    very they're they're they have to build
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    they have to build a wall in order to be
  • 00:29:20
    okay in that because then they get to
  • 00:29:24
    still allow their soft heart with
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    certain people because it's so soft and
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    I mean that's what I think you know yeah
  • 00:29:31
    yeah I really do see that so um okay I
  • 00:29:35
    like this alright now we get to move
  • 00:29:39
    into the kind of snappy I know I know so
  • 00:29:43
    get ready so so this is the I know we
  • 00:29:47
    should put our love but now we don't
  • 00:29:48
    need
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    okay so I'm grabbing my little sheet
  • 00:29:50
    here because I'm older and I can't
  • 00:29:51
    remember 20 questions you don't need
  • 00:29:54
    them coz I write big I'm it for myself I
  • 00:29:56
    know myself okay so this is the 20 20
  • 00:30:00
    questions 21 questions and I write these
  • 00:30:02
    each morning for the guests I'm
  • 00:30:04
    interviewing so these are specifically
  • 00:30:05
    for you and the attackers here okay
  • 00:30:08
    so best you can do one-word answers okay
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    okay
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    that's a tough one down answers because
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    clearly I can talk yeah look at my chest
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    okay what is what is your favorite
  • 00:30:19
    quality in a friend loyalty so you did
  • 00:30:23
    it already
  • 00:30:24
    bing-bang-boom - what is your favorite
  • 00:30:27
    quality in yourself just sense of humor
  • 00:30:30
    that's three words okay it's one hamer
  • 00:30:32
    whatever now who was your first crush
  • 00:30:33
    Donny Osmond I loved him I had a poster
  • 00:30:37
    of him with it get a kiss peace oh and I
  • 00:30:40
    kissed him every night I went to bed
  • 00:30:42
    jealous I'm not jealous okay what is the
  • 00:30:46
    best thing that happened for you in
  • 00:30:48
    grade school my drawing that I did of /
  • 00:30:53
    Columbus Day of the Nina the Pinta and
  • 00:30:56
    the famous area was put on the calendar
  • 00:30:59
    board for that entire month dang gyrl
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    exciting okay that was a lot of words
  • 00:31:03
    just FYI sorry but I was a good story is
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    it John okay
  • 00:31:08
    drawing up okay do you have an icon or a
  • 00:31:11
    role model yes
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    okay I know follow-up question yes iris
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    and Phil I love it okay okay um did your
  • 00:31:23
    parents talk to you about sex yes
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    which one mother okay um did it make
  • 00:31:29
    sense yes okay did your um did your
  • 00:31:33
    parents talk to you about money
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    mmm yes okay okay um this will help and
  • 00:31:41
    what did the adults in your family so I
  • 00:31:44
    leave this open because I didn't know
  • 00:31:45
    whether you know garner guardians
  • 00:31:47
    parents and so what do you think they
  • 00:31:50
    valued most
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    you're doing a good job trying to think
  • 00:31:58
    of one word I can tell love okay
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    beautiful
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    okay um how old were you for your first
  • 00:32:07
    romantic kiss 14 - yeah you just end up
  • 00:32:20
    joking okay I didn't even mean it that
  • 00:32:22
    way but now I see your point
  • 00:32:23
    yeah romantic I know okay go me yes
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    movie what's your middle school or
  • 00:32:29
    junior high best friend well I went to
  • 00:32:32
    12 different schools okay let's go from
  • 00:32:36
    six to eighth grade
  • 00:32:37
    just pick for those three that came
  • 00:32:39
    straight okay did you have a best friend
  • 00:32:42
    in each school yeah okay let's go name
  • 00:32:45
    that's right everyone suck it Stacy okay
  • 00:32:50
    next one okay let's go with Stacy
  • 00:32:54
    why was Stacy your best friend at that
  • 00:32:56
    school because she was weird enough to
  • 00:32:58
    be friends with a new girl perfect sorry
  • 00:33:00
    it's too hard to do what I know it's
  • 00:33:02
    it's not a weird name show-hei weird who
  • 00:33:06
    is your best friend right now Leslie
  • 00:33:09
    okay
  • 00:33:10
    why confidant love it you did it you did
  • 00:33:17
    it
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    um what are you most afraid of
  • 00:33:21
    interviews you got my big gut laugh
  • 00:33:26
    there okay um what are you most excited
  • 00:33:29
    about in your life right now art oh yeah
  • 00:33:35
    okay what do you plan to do next year
  • 00:33:38
    can be big remember one more close to
  • 00:33:40
    one word next year expand okay can I can
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    I just qualify that though you're not
  • 00:33:46
    this area not the body so much business
  • 00:33:50
    business page yeah I make sure yeah I
  • 00:33:53
    had I thought that my do
  • 00:33:55
    okay what are you gonna do later today
  • 00:33:58
    [Applause]
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    drink perfect we're close to it when it
  • 00:34:07
    has no dude that happiest in your life
  • 00:34:10
    daughter mmm we could have guessed that
  • 00:34:15
    okay when you were little what did you
  • 00:34:18
    want to be when you grew up a waitress I
  • 00:34:22
    loved it
  • 00:34:23
    I had a cousin who wanted to be a hooker
  • 00:34:34
    okay oh boy it's for mortified I bet
  • 00:34:37
    well yeah but max just wrote he wants to
  • 00:34:40
    be a mechanic which is not a bad thing
  • 00:34:43
    it's just that when you're a little kid
  • 00:34:44
    you don't have a sense of like what this
  • 00:34:47
    means you just know I want to be this
  • 00:34:49
    I just might serve people I know
  • 00:34:51
    actually it was because we're at one of
  • 00:34:52
    those buffet thanks yeah and they had
  • 00:34:55
    like the ice cream yeah and I got to go
  • 00:34:58
    up and like serve my family know their
  • 00:35:00
    waters and I just thought it was so nice
  • 00:35:03
    oh it was love it didn't and I were just
  • 00:35:06
    the snapper girl at the skate King when
  • 00:35:07
    I was 15 and I don't want to do this
  • 00:35:09
    this is brutal
  • 00:35:12
    yeah I did it in college too but but
  • 00:35:14
    yeah yeah well once you get good at it
  • 00:35:15
    you know yeah you can exit I'll carry
  • 00:35:17
    you through yeah it was like the golden
  • 00:35:19
    handcuffs I think everybody should have
  • 00:35:21
    to wait tables in their lifetime I was
  • 00:35:23
    at Chuck E Cheese birthday hostess loved
  • 00:35:25
    it
  • 00:35:25
    what high school why I loved it Wow
  • 00:35:27
    loved it I got to announce things fun
  • 00:35:30
    the pizza time players are there I got
  • 00:35:32
    to bring birthday cake I'm not kidding
  • 00:35:34
    you I loved it okay okay perfect now we
  • 00:35:41
    get to go to the next part of our
  • 00:35:44
    interview which is the drink ritual so
  • 00:35:45
    this is a time when we get to see a
  • 00:35:48
    little microcosm of you of why you
  • 00:35:50
    choose a drink and
  • 00:35:52
    and then I share the drink I get a toast
  • 00:35:56
    and so I can't wait okay so um we will
  • 00:35:59
    take a brief respite and let you concoct
  • 00:36:03
    your drink all right
  • 00:36:05
    stay tuned
  • 00:36:08
    [Music]
  • 00:36:15
    okay this is what might be the most
  • 00:36:19
    beautiful drink I have enjoyed on the
  • 00:36:23
    show and I love beauty so Patti tell us
  • 00:36:28
    about the drink okay well I was a
  • 00:36:30
    bartender in college should we're
  • 00:36:32
    excited yes I also am Pete oh so I don't
  • 00:36:36
    okay I don't either to my fans
  • 00:36:39
    Aikido yeah it's it's not it's good type
  • 00:36:42
    of Jitsu I'm which what you say I try to
  • 00:36:46
    leave it a carb-free lifestyle because
  • 00:36:47
    it being over 50 yeah and postmenopausal
  • 00:36:49
    to keep off that 15 to 20 pounds it just
  • 00:36:52
    wants to hang out with me I got it
  • 00:36:54
    I gotta move we gotta straight out yeah
  • 00:36:56
    but I love a margarita yeah micrometers
  • 00:36:58
    full of carbs because it's full of sugar
  • 00:36:59
    so I created this margarita it's kind of
  • 00:37:03
    its kind of a ripoff from Skinnygirl
  • 00:37:07
    line but this is so much better
  • 00:37:08
    I call it slender lady bethenny frankel
  • 00:37:14
    up skinny girl will studio if you even
  • 00:37:16
    talk about it so what it is is it's
  • 00:37:18
    fresh-squeezed lime okay one
  • 00:37:21
    fresh-squeezed tangerine for two drinks
  • 00:37:23
    and stevia okay with a kosher salt room
  • 00:37:27
    we're weird largest research just cuz I
  • 00:37:29
    like the texture I do too yeah I'm
  • 00:37:31
    pretty but that's what it is so it's
  • 00:37:33
    very simple
  • 00:37:34
    and in a Buena and glad a martini glass
  • 00:37:36
    um gorgeous
  • 00:37:38
    so yeah shaken very hard huh yeah I get
  • 00:37:41
    I got to see the preparation than mine
  • 00:37:43
    and it was really I was telling me that
  • 00:37:45
    if you are over 50 again I know I keep
  • 00:37:47
    talking about that but when you shake a
  • 00:37:49
    margarita wear long sleeves because the
  • 00:37:50
    arm thing nobody wants to see that
  • 00:37:52
    whatever makes you a little wheel that's
  • 00:37:54
    not good I try to lift those weights but
  • 00:37:56
    it doesn't it doesn't it just doesn't in
  • 00:37:58
    your matter okay cheers to you too sir
  • 00:38:01
    Cheers Oh smells really good I have to
  • 00:38:08
    get that mmm mmm mmm okay here's what I
  • 00:38:15
    like the texture of the salt it's a nice
  • 00:38:19
    coarse grain mmm and then there's I
  • 00:38:23
    really am NOT a fan of a sweet drink
  • 00:38:24
    visit
  • 00:38:25
    me so it is it's got a tart let's make
  • 00:38:28
    my mouth water peel its up mmm
  • 00:38:31
    it's got its got tartness but it also
  • 00:38:34
    has smoothness and so it's not that kind
  • 00:38:38
    of fake tart
  • 00:38:39
    tell me what I'm talking about do like
  • 00:38:41
    seven yeah yeah yeah oh this is
  • 00:38:43
    delicious
  • 00:38:44
    okay I have to have another little step
  • 00:38:45
    cheers oh okay
  • 00:38:48
    I am good tequila patron silver yeah
  • 00:38:50
    very nice okay
  • 00:38:52
    do you feel like you can you can do the
  • 00:38:54
    end of our interview holding your yeah
  • 00:38:56
    things mean we're probably good right
  • 00:38:57
    we'll see if that when we're in our
  • 00:38:59
    fifties it's not my mom's drink okay so
  • 00:39:08
    at the end of the interview I always ask
  • 00:39:10
    and I want to know because we've you
  • 00:39:13
    know with you and with everyone mostly
  • 00:39:15
    we talk about personal we talk about
  • 00:39:18
    professional and at the end what I want
  • 00:39:21
    to know is is there something that you
  • 00:39:24
    would like to promote now it can be
  • 00:39:27
    anything that you want so what would you
  • 00:39:29
    like to promote I would like to let
  • 00:39:32
    everyone know that we just got
  • 00:39:34
    sponsorship from a company called
  • 00:39:35
    Shunpike okay sponsors artists groups so
  • 00:39:38
    there were a 501c3 sponsored I just take
  • 00:39:41
    me a while
  • 00:39:42
    it took me you know some business plan
  • 00:39:44
    writing and some budget writing and
  • 00:39:45
    which is kind of out of my wheelhouse
  • 00:39:47
    since the paper well it took a lot of
  • 00:39:49
    paperwork but it's budgeting I'm an art
  • 00:39:51
    I'm an art girl I'm a marketing girl
  • 00:39:52
    yeah I mean I had to have a marketing
  • 00:39:53
    budget but this is a little different
  • 00:39:55
    for you but we did get approved and we
  • 00:39:58
    will be able to accept tax-deductible
  • 00:40:00
    donations which in turn will allow us as
  • 00:40:03
    a community
  • 00:40:04
    yep to do more community outreach to
  • 00:40:06
    people over 50 okay to provide space for
  • 00:40:08
    artists that don't have a lot of income
  • 00:40:10
    that are over 50 that want to show yeah
  • 00:40:12
    - and have studio time yeah I'm gonna be
  • 00:40:16
    able to do one-person shows we'll be
  • 00:40:18
    able to
  • 00:40:18
    about it I want to work with agencies
  • 00:40:21
    that help people every cue like meals on
  • 00:40:23
    wheels
  • 00:40:23
    yeah and Providence Mount Saint Vincent
  • 00:40:26
    does a lot for ya elderly uncompensated
  • 00:40:29
    elderly care yeah you know there's a lot
  • 00:40:31
    done for a lot of other groups and I
  • 00:40:33
    feel like the elderly and older is a
  • 00:40:36
    very marginalized and forgotten group of
  • 00:40:39
    people and so the goal here is to make
  • 00:40:42
    everybody over 50 and hang on feel
  • 00:40:46
    relevant and apartment
  • 00:40:47
    you're still creative you're still a
  • 00:40:49
    contributor mm-hmm and I think you start
  • 00:40:51
    to really feel invisible and I think
  • 00:40:52
    that happens a lot with women never 50
  • 00:40:55
    is you really start to feel invisible
  • 00:40:56
    mm-hmm and it doesn't feel good yeah and
  • 00:40:59
    so I'm here to change that paradigm of
  • 00:41:01
    what aging really looks like yeah and
  • 00:41:03
    what aging needs I mean come on look at
  • 00:41:05
    us for over 50 come on
  • 00:41:08
    but but it's so important and you know
  • 00:41:12
    I've been doing some statistical
  • 00:41:13
    research and 50% of the population is
  • 00:41:16
    over 50 yeah I remember because we're
  • 00:41:17
    not we're not having as many babies yeah
  • 00:41:20
    I'm gonna dying
  • 00:41:21
    sadly the largest segment of people of
  • 00:41:24
    age is over 85 Wow so in our lifetime
  • 00:41:29
    our life expectancy I think is now only
  • 00:41:30
    280 80 years old or 78 or 80 and when I
  • 00:41:34
    was a kid I think was 60 yeah yeah so
  • 00:41:37
    exponentially now in the next coming 10
  • 00:41:40
    to 20 years our life expectancy will
  • 00:41:42
    probably be well into our 90s and our
  • 00:41:44
    kids life expectancy will be over a
  • 00:41:46
    hundred because of technology and what
  • 00:41:48
    they're doing with dynamic medicine and
  • 00:41:50
    yeah all the things that we're taking
  • 00:41:51
    better care of our bodies you know if we
  • 00:41:54
    don't pollute ourselves to death than
  • 00:41:55
    that right well none of us get well
  • 00:41:57
    we'll be able to bring our pets back - I
  • 00:41:59
    was just reading that oh wow our dead
  • 00:42:00
    pets I heard about that cloning plant oh
  • 00:42:02
    um okay so that's yeah that's what's
  • 00:42:06
    important to me and that's yes what's
  • 00:42:08
    feeding mice all right yeah and so and
  • 00:42:10
    so so I want yeah please have a drink um
  • 00:42:13
    so so your gallery
  • 00:42:16
    um folk studios and galleries um right
  • 00:42:20
    here in Georgetown right um has second
  • 00:42:23
    Saturdays the Georgetown Art Attack
  • 00:42:26
    second Saturdays from 6:00 to 9:00
  • 00:42:28
    nominal yeah amazing Art Walk
  • 00:42:31
    and there are 27 artists just here there
  • 00:42:33
    recently was a group of artists from the
  • 00:42:36
    gallery doing demos I wasn't one of them
  • 00:42:38
    which is okay well yeah and I just mean
  • 00:42:41
    not in that I wasn't one of them so I
  • 00:42:43
    got to go around and see them and I
  • 00:42:45
    really appreciate that
  • 00:42:46
    yeah I it wasn't so bad yeah we said is
  • 00:42:49
    it fun night I could have reached out
  • 00:42:50
    yes it was very fun and the openings are
  • 00:42:53
    really great so your bigger message
  • 00:42:55
    being about the marginalization the past
  • 00:42:58
    marginalization of people women and men
  • 00:43:01
    over 50 and making sure that we
  • 00:43:04
    recognize that things have changed and I
  • 00:43:08
    think then how you're just showing you
  • 00:43:10
    know it's to the authorship you know
  • 00:43:12
    things are changing but it's really slow
  • 00:43:14
    I mean I know that like ARP for example
  • 00:43:17
    is working really hard to try to seem
  • 00:43:18
    hip and cool right but they are like
  • 00:43:20
    yeah you get that they're mad oh man how
  • 00:43:25
    do you have my address
  • 00:43:26
    yeah how do you know on my birthday you
  • 00:43:28
    know but what but but they're trying
  • 00:43:31
    super hard to change the paradigm of it
  • 00:43:33
    right yeah they are and you know I just
  • 00:43:35
    saw this ad for ages oh yeah yeah I know
  • 00:43:38
    Simon was this billboard saying be who
  • 00:43:41
    you are be yeah the creative one be thee
  • 00:43:42
    and and it was this woman that was like
  • 00:43:45
    75 years old and what's really funky and
  • 00:43:47
    cool like it is and I thought it was
  • 00:43:48
    really awesome yeah I thought anyone
  • 00:43:50
    yeah no matter what yellow so I'm kinda
  • 00:43:52
    so yeah now we can we can do even more
  • 00:43:54
    with the tax deductable donation option
  • 00:43:56
    yeah people to it to help us and watch
  • 00:43:59
    us grow and it's very exciting it's
  • 00:44:00
    really exciting yeah yeah so then just
  • 00:44:03
    finishing things off same kind of a
  • 00:44:06
    realm is what if anything do you need
  • 00:44:11
    and how would you like to receive it
  • 00:44:17
    we need money okay the people we do well
  • 00:44:20
    the what's up please let's play them
  • 00:44:25
    using each other's bad pets um yeah keep
  • 00:44:28
    going but I know it's true um no we
  • 00:44:31
    really do though you know we do because
  • 00:44:32
    what this what this gallery is all about
  • 00:44:34
    is it's an artist gallery yeah
  • 00:44:36
    meaning that 85 percent of the gross
  • 00:44:37
    sales goes directly into the artists I
  • 00:44:39
    know which I don't Omega so for me to
  • 00:44:41
    keep doing this and making it affordable
  • 00:44:43
    and creating this space and being able
  • 00:44:44
    to expand this space yeah um we're gonna
  • 00:44:46
    need some help
  • 00:44:47
    yeah it's we need people to come in we
  • 00:44:50
    need people come in and buy start and
  • 00:44:51
    you're not beautiful are we have up word
  • 00:44:53
    show your pieces of art hi oh yeah the
  • 00:44:56
    exceptional gallery quality great prices
  • 00:44:59
    channeling it's no different price
  • 00:45:00
    because the artists they can they can
  • 00:45:03
    price things in a way that's more
  • 00:45:05
    affordable because I'm not taking half
  • 00:45:06
    their money exactly right now yeah and
  • 00:45:09
    it's it's a unique business model it's I
  • 00:45:12
    don't know of any other gallery that's
  • 00:45:13
    doing other than a they're doing it
  • 00:45:14
    exactly like I'm doing it but it's the
  • 00:45:17
    only gallery that's over 50 that I know
  • 00:45:18
    besides in New York
  • 00:45:19
    yeah ask one other that I've heard of um
  • 00:45:21
    so I'm trying to do something new
  • 00:45:24
    interesting innovative and I'm really
  • 00:45:26
    trying to do something for my people
  • 00:45:28
    yeah have people are people that's me
  • 00:45:30
    I'm gonna be a football and we know we
  • 00:45:33
    all are really yeah so okay perfect
  • 00:45:35
    I mean I think that that's that's well
  • 00:45:37
    said all of it well said and this has
  • 00:45:40
    been a lot of fun I have truly enjoyed
  • 00:45:44
    this I hope that you've gotten to know a
  • 00:45:45
    little bit more about Patti how could
  • 00:45:47
    you help it because she's so articulate
  • 00:45:49
    and I thought oh yeah no but you're one
  • 00:45:52
    of those people who are just so funny to
  • 00:45:54
    me that I can't help but laughing that
  • 00:45:57
    ugly laugh you know what I mean even I
  • 00:45:59
    can't even laugh the cute laugh like
  • 00:46:03
    okay so we will be wrapping up right now
  • 00:46:07
    thank you so much for joining
  • 00:46:09
    my honor to talk to you you're so fine I
  • 00:46:12
    loved it hey you're you're a friend very
  • 00:46:15
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    Switzerland come on people anyway
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    well the e resume we will see you next
  • 00:46:36
    time thanks so much thanks guys cheers
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    Cheers
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    you
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