Jordan Peterson - Comece a errar hoje mesmo (Legendado) [2021]

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-XxnSa3uwDA

Resumen

TLDRO vídeo explora a idea de Carl Jung sobre a circumambulación, que suxire que o interese que sentimos por certas cousas guía o noso desenvolvemento persoal. O orador argumenta que, a pesar de que a idea pode parecer mística, é biolóxica e que estamos programados para buscar experiencias que nos expandan. O proceso de seguir os nosos intereses pode ser erróneo e cheo de erros, pero é mellor actuar mal que non actuar. O camiño cara ao autodescubrimento está cheo de desvíos e aprendizaxes, e a evolución é un proceso non lineal, onde os fracasos son parte do crecemento. O orador anima a aceptar os erros como parte do proceso e a seguir adiante, xa que cada paso é unha oportunidade de aprendizaxe.

Para llevar

  • 🌱 O interese guía o desenvolvemento persoal.
  • 🌀 A circumambulación é un proceso de autodescubrimento.
  • ❌ É normal cometer erros no camiño.
  • 🚀 Actuar, mesmo mal, é mellor que non actuar.
  • 📖 As historias bíblicas ilustran aprendizaxes.
  • 🤔 A vontade de estulticia é parte do proceso.
  • 🔄 O fracaso ensina o que non se debe facer.
  • 🧭 Organizarse despois de escapar de situacións tóxicas é crucial.
  • 💡 A incerteza do coñecido pode ser máis cómoda que o descoñecido.
  • 🌟 Cada paso é unha oportunidade de aprendizaxe.

Cronología

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    , A medida que avanzamos no noso camiño, a nosa percepción do mundo cambia e, por tanto, o que nos interesa tamén se redefine. É normal cometer erros e sobrepasar as expectativas, pero cada erro é unha oportunidade de aprendizaxe. A historia de Éxodo ilustra que, tras escapar da tiranía, a xente pode sentirse perdida e nihilista, pero este estado de 'nada' é un paso necesario para a transformación. O proceso de crecemento non é lineal; implica retrocesos e aprendizaxes dolorosas, pero cada paso, incluso os erróneos, son parte do camiño cara ao ideal.

Mapa mental

Vídeo de preguntas y respuestas

  • Que é a circumambulación en psicoloxía?

    É a idea de que o interese que sentimos por certas cousas guía o noso desenvolvemento persoal.

  • Como se relaciona a circumambulación co desenvolvemento persoal?

    A circumambulación suxire que estamos programados para buscar experiencias que nos expandan e nos axuden a crecer.

  • É normal cometer erros no proceso de autodescubrimento?

    Si, é normal e parte do proceso de aprendizaxe e crecemento.

  • Que papel xoga o fracaso no desenvolvemento persoal?

    O fracaso é parte do proceso e pode ensinarche o que non debes facer, axudándote a aprender e a mellorar.

  • Por que é importante actuar, mesmo se se fai mal?

    Actuar, mesmo mal, é mellor que non actuar, xa que cada paso é unha oportunidade de aprendizaxe.

  • Como se relaciona a idea de Jung coas historias bíblicas?

    As historias bíblicas ilustran como os personaxes enfrentan dificultades e aprenden a través das súas experiencias.

  • Que significa 'a vontade de estulticia' de Nietzsche?

    Refírese á idea de que a estulticia é parte do proceso de aprendizaxe e que hai que aceptala.

  • Como se pode aplicar a circumambulación na vida diaria?

    Pódese aplicar seguindo os propios intereses e aprendendo dos erros ao longo do camiño.

  • Que se debe facer despois de escapar dunha situación tóxica?

    É importante organizarse moralmente e atopar un novo rumbo, mesmo se inicialmente se sente desorientado.

  • Por que a xente permanece en relacións tóxicas?

    A xente a miúdo prefire a incerteza do coñecido antes que arriscarse a algo descoñecido.

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    there's this idea in
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    union psychology called the
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    circumambulation and jung had this idea
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    that
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    you had a potential future self which
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    would be
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    in potential everything that you could
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    be and that it manifests
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    itself moment to moment in your present
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    life
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    by making you interested in things and
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    the things that you're interested in are
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    the things that would guide you along
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    the path that would lead you to maximal
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    development
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    now it sounds like a metaphysical idea
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    or a or a mystical idea even but
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    but it's not it's it's not it's a really
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    profoundly biological idea the idea is
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    something like well
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    you're set up so that you're
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    automatically interested in those things
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    that would
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    fully expand you as a well-adapted
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    creature
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    well like there's nothing radical about
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    that idea
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    how well what else could possibly be the
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    case unless
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    there's something fundamentally flawed
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    about you that is what
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    the situation would be it's kind of
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    interesting to think about how that
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    would be manifest moment to moment but
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    the idea is something like
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    well your interest is captured by those
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    things that lead you down
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    the path of development well that better
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    be the case
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    okay so that's fine and so there's some
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    utility in pursuing those things that
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    you're interested in that's the call to
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    adventure let's say
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    so and the call to adventure takes you
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    all sorts of places now the problem with
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    the call to adventure is like what the
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    hell do you know
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    you might be interested in things that
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    are kind of warped and bent
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    and often it's the case that when new
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    parts of people manifest themselves
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    and grip their interest say they do it
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    very badly and shoddily
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    and so you stumble around like an idiot
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    when you try to do something new
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    that's why the fool is the precursor to
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    the savior from the
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    from the symbolic perspectives because
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    you have to be a fool before you can be
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    a master and if you're not willing to be
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    a fool then you can't be a master so
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    so you're gonna it's an error
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    error-ridden process and that's also
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    laid out in the old testament stories
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    because the first thing that happens to
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    all these patriarchal figures when
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    god kicks them out of their father's
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    house when they're like 84
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    is that they they run into all sorts of
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    trouble and some of it's social and some
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    of it's natural
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    some of it's a consequence of their own
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    moral inadequacy
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    so they're fools and but but the thing
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    that's so
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    interesting is that despite the fact
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    that they're fools they're still
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    supposed to go on the adventure
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    and that they're capable of learning
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    enough as a consequence of moving
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    forward on the adventure
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    so that they straighten themselves out
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    across time
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    and so it's something like this this
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    circumambulation that jung talked about
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    was this
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    continual will return to this this
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    continual
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    circling in some sense of who you could
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    be you might notice for example that
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    there are themes in your life you know
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    when you go back across your experiences
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    you see you kind of have your typical
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    experience that sort of repeats itself
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    and there might be variation on it like
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    a musical theme but it's
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    it's like you're circling yourself and
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    getting closer to yourself
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    as you move across time that's the
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    circumambulation now
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    you remember that for a second we'll go
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    back to it okay so imagine that
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    something
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    glimmers before you it's an interest
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    that's dawning
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    and you decide well first of all you're
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    paralyzed you think well how do i know
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    if i should pursue that
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    it's probably a stupid idea and the
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    proper response to that is
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    you're right it probably is a stupid
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    idea because almost
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    all ideas are stupid and so the the
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    probability that as you move forward on
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    your adventure that you're gonna get it
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    right the first time
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    is zero it's just not gonna happen and
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    so then you might
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    think well maybe i'll just wait around
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    until i get the right idea
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    and which people do right so they're
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    like 40 year old 13 year olds which is
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    not a good idea
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    so they wait around until it's waiting
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    for godot until
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    they finally got it right but the
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    problem is you're too stupid to know
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    when you've got it right so
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    waiting around isn't going to help
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    because even if it
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    the perfect opportunity manifested
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    itself to you
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    in your incomplete form the probability
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    that you would recognize it as the
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    perfect opportunity is
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    zero you might even think it's the worst
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    possible idea that you've ever heard of
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    anywhere
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    highly likely highly likely so
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    so you have there's nietzsche called
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    that a
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    will to stupidity which i really liked
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    so
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    because he thought of stupidity as being
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    it you know it's it's
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    you have to take it into account
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    fundamentally and work with
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    it and so and so you can take these
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    tentative steps
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    on your pathway to destiny and you can
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    assume that you're going to do it badly
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    and that's really useful because you
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    don't have to beat yourself up it's
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    pretty easy to do it badly
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    but the thing is it's way better to do
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    it badly than not to do it at all
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    and that's the continual message that
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    echoes through these
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    historical stories in genesis it's like
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    these are flawed people
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    they they should have got the hell out
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    of their house way before they did
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    um and they go out and they stumble
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    around in tyranny and famine and
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    self-betrayal and and
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    violence and but it's a hell of a lot
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    better than just rotting away at home
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    and that's the that's great so that's
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    good and so why is that well
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    okay so you you start your path and you
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    think that you're heading
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    you know towards your star and so you go
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    in that direction and
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    then because you're here the world looks
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    a
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    particular way but then when you move
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    here
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    the world looks different and you're
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    different as a consequence of having
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    made that voyage and so
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    what that means is that now that thing
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    that glimmers in front of you is going
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    to have shifted
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    its location because you weren't very
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    good at
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    specifying it to begin with and now that
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    you're a little sharper
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    and more focused than you were it's it's
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    going to reveal itself with more
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    accuracy to you
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    and so then you have to take a
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    you know it's almost like 180 degree
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    reversal
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    but it isn't because you know you've
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    i mean you've gone this far and that's a
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    long ways to get that
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    far but that's a lot farther than
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    you would be if you just stayed where
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    you were waiting
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    and so it doesn't matter that you
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    overshoot
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    continually because as you overshoot
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    even if you don't learn what you should
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    have done you're going to continually
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    learn
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    what you shouldn't keep doing and if you
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    learn
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    enough about what you shouldn't keep
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    doing then
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    that's tantamount at some point to
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    learning at the same time what you
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    should be doing
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    so it's okay so it's like this
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    now what's cool about it though i think
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    is that as you progress
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    the degree of overshooting starts to
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    decline right
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    and that we know that there's nothing
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    hypothetical about that
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    as you learn a new skill like even to
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    play play a song on the piano for
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    example you overshoot madly you're
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    making all sorts of mistakes to begin
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    with and then
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    the mistakes
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    they they disappear there's a great ted
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    talk i think it was about
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    this guy set up a really advanced
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    computational recording system in his
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    home
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    and recorded every single utterance his
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    young child
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    made while learning to speak and then he
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    put together
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    the child's attempts to say certain
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    phonemes
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    and put them in the list and you can
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    hear the child deviating
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    madly to begin with and then after
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    hundreds and hundreds of repetitions
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    just
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    zeroing right in on the exact phoneme
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    so you know you might not know this but
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    when kids babble because they start
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    babbling when they're quite young
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    they babble every human phoneme
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    including all sorts of phonemes that
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    adults can't say
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    and then they they die into their
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    language
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    so that after they learn say english
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    then there's all sorts of phonemes they
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    can no longer hear or pronounce but to
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    begin with it's all there
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    which is really quite interesting but so
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    they see as they learn
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    a particular language they zero in on
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    the proper way to
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    pronounce that and their errors minimize
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    and every time you learn something
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    that's how it is and that's really
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    useful to know too because
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    it means that it's okay to wander around
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    stupidly
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    before you fix your destination now you
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    see that echoed in exodus right
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    because what happens is that the
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    egyptians or the hebrews
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    escape a tyranny which is kind of
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    whatever you do
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    personally and psychologically when you
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    escape from your previous set of
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    stupidly held and
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    ignorant and stubborn axioms it's like
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    away from that tyranny it's like great i
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    freed myself from that
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    well then what well you think well now
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    i'm on the way it's no you're not now
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    you're in the desert
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    where you wander around stupidly you
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    know and worship the wrong
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    things until you finally organize
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    yourself
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    morally again and head in the proper
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    direction so that's worth knowing too
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    because
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    you think well i got rid of a lot of
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    things baggage excess baggage that i
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    didn't need in my life and now
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    everything's okay it's like no it's not
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    you've got rid of a whole set of
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    scaffolds that were keeping you in place
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    even though they were pathological now
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    you have nothing
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    and nothing actually turns out to be
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    better than something
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    pathological but you're still stuck with
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    the problem of nothing
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    and and that's well that's exactly why
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    exodus is structured the way that it is
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    it's that
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    you escape from maternity it's hooray
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    we're no longer slaves yeah well now
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    you're
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    nihilistic and lost it's not necessarily
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    an improvement
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    but it is but it is the pre see it's
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    also useful to know
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    that because you can also be diluted
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    into the idea that
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    imagine that you're trying to become
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    enlightened which might mean to
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    turn all those parts of you on that
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    could be turned on you think well that's
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    just a linear pathway
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    uphill you know it's just from one
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    success to another it's no it's not
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    it's like here you are and you're not
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    doing too badly and the first step is a
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    complete bloody catastrophe it's
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    worse and then maybe you can pull
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    yourself together
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    and you hit a new plateau and then that
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    crumbles and shakes and
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    bang it's worse again and so because
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    part of the reason that people don't
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    become enlightened is because it's
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    punctuated by intermittent deserts
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    essentially by intermittent catastrophes
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    and if you don't know that well then
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    you're basically screwed because you go
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    ahead on your movement forward and you
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    collapse and you think well that didn't
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    work i collapsed it's like no
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    that's par for the course it's not
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    indication that you failed it's just
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    indication that it's really hard
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    and that when you learn something you
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    also unlearn something and
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    the thing you unlearned is probably
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    useful and unlearning it actually is
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    painful
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    you know let's say if you have to get
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    out of a bad relationship it's like not
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    every
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    not any rel there isn't any relationship
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    that's a hundred percent
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    bad and so when you jump out of it well
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    maybe you're in better shape but you're
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    still lonesome and disoriented and you
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    don't know what your past was and you
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    don't know what your present is and you
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    don't know what your future is it's
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    that's not that's why people stay with
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    the devil they know instead of
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    you know looking for the devil they
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    don't know so
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    so anyways the fact that you're full of
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    faults
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    doesn't mean you have to stop and thank
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    god for that that's a really useful
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    thing
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    and the fact that you're full of faults
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    doesn't mean that you can't learn
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    and so you can pause it an ideal and
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    you're going to be wrong about it
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    but it doesn't matter because what
  • 00:11:24
    you're right about is positing the ideal
  • 00:11:25
    moving towards it
  • 00:11:27
    if the actual ideal isn't
  • 00:11:31
    conceptualized perfectly well first
  • 00:11:33
    surprise surprise because like what are
  • 00:11:34
    you gonna do that's perfect
  • 00:11:36
    so it doesn't matter that it's imp
  • 00:11:38
    imperfect it just matters that you do it
  • 00:11:40
    and that you move forward
  • 00:11:42
    so that's really that's really positive
  • 00:11:43
    news as far as i'm concerned because you
  • 00:11:45
    can actually do that right
  • 00:11:46
    you can do it badly anyone can do that
  • 00:11:49
    so that's
  • 00:11:50
    that's useful okay so like if you were
  • 00:11:53
    an efficient person you would have just
  • 00:11:54
    done that
  • 00:11:56
    but you're not but who cares you know
  • 00:11:58
    you still end up in the
  • 00:12:00
    in the same place and maybe the trip is
  • 00:12:02
    even more interesting who knows
  • 00:12:04
    probably too interesting
  • 00:12:10
    you
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