He's a Serial Entrepreneur, Navy Vet, and Venture Capitalist

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Resumen

TLDRJohnny Corson és un destacat emprenedor i veterà de la Marina que ha transicionat amb èxit del servei militar a l'emprenedoria, arribant a ser venture capitalist. Durant l'entrevista, Johnny comparteix la seva història personal i professional, destacant les habilitats i experiències que considera clau en el seu èxit. Inicialment va emprendre projectes petits mentre estava en servei actiu, finalment cofundant una empresa d'aprenentatge per a mariners que va vendre amb èxit a Kaplan. Johnny ofereix consells valuosos sobre cóm fer la transició del món militar al civil, subratllant la importància de planificar el canvi amb anys d'antelació, escoltar els que dubten i ser financerament preparat. A més, destaca la importància de desenvolupar una xarxa de suport sòlida i mantenir una mentalitat enfocada en el creixement personal i professional.

Para llevar

  • 🎖️ Johnny Corson és un veterà de la Marina i emprenedor d'èxit.
  • 💡 S'ha convertit en capitalista de risc després de vendre la seva empresa a Kaplan.
  • 🏗️ Va fundar 'Blue Jacketeer', una eina d'aprenentatge per a mariners.
  • 📚 Recalca la importància de començar a planificar la transició dos anys abans de deixar el servei militar.
  • 🧠 Destaca el valor d'escoltar les crítiques i aprendre a vendre's a si mateix.
  • 🔄 Subratlla la capacitat de compartimentar els diferents aspectes de la vida professional i personal.
  • 🕰️ La transició de la vida militar a civil requereix planificació financera i personal.
  • 🌐 Importància de construir una xarxa de suport robusta.
  • 💪 L'experiència militar pot ajudar a construir resiliència i adaptabilitat.
  • 📈 L'educació formal pot no ser sempre directa en aplicació, però altres recursos d'aprenentatge poden marcar la diferència.

Cronología

  • 00:00:00 - 00:05:00

    El presentador està entrevistant a Johnny Corson, un amic i mentor seu en el camp de l'emprenedoria. Johnny és un veterà de la Marina, pare i empresari que ha conduit diverses empreses i ara és capitalista de risc. Comenta la seva trajectòria, des de tallar gespes fins a unir-se a la Marina buscant estructura i experiències. L'estada en la Marina li va permetre formar la seva primera empresa i començar en l'emprenedoria.

  • 00:05:00 - 00:10:00

    Durant la seva carrera com a conseller de carrera a la Marina, Johnny va rebre una petició d'ajuda d'un mariner que tenia dificultats per aprovar un examen crucial per promocionar. Això el va motivar a crear una eina d'aprenentatge interactiva per a mariners. També destaca la seva associació amb Allen, que va ser clau per a l'èxit de la seva empresa, que finalment va vendre a Kaplan.

  • 00:10:00 - 00:15:00

    Johnny explica la transició entre la vida plena de estructura en la Marina i el món de l'emprenedoria, on preval la manca d'estructura. Compartint experiències sobre la seva carrera i formació, esmenta l'habilitat per compartimentar tasques i funcionar eficientment en ambdós ambients, destacant la importància de practicar la transició abans de comprometre's plenament amb una nova carrera.

  • 00:15:00 - 00:20:00

    Parla de la seva infància a Alaska, que va fomentar la seva independència i capacitat d'adaptació. Aconsella als joves que busquen sortir del seu poble natal que aprofitin els anys de joventut per experimentar i ampliar horitzons, tot afirmant que l'època de 18 a 24 anys és ideal per fer-ho. També menciona els beneficis del servei militar per a aquells que volen un canvi dràstic.

  • 00:20:00 - 00:25:00

    Johnny reflexiona sobre com compaginava les seves responsabilitats militars amb l'emprenedoria, destacant un moment clau en què el seu comandant el va aconsellar fer créixer la seva empresa fora de la Marina. Aquesta experiència va ajudar a expandir la seva empresa a través de campions que va inspirar dins la comunitat militar.

  • 00:25:00 - 00:34:47

    Johnny comparteix consells per a veterans que es preparen per a la transició al sector privat, recomanant començar el procés amb dos anys d'antelació, escoltar els escèptics i establir una xarxa de suport. També parla de l'impacte de l'educació i la planificació financera per a una sortida reeixida de l'entorn militar.

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Preguntas frecuentes

  • Qui és Johnny Corson?

    Johnny Corson és un veterà de la Marina, pare i emprenedor d'èxit que ha dirigit diverses empreses i ara és capitalista de risc.

  • Quin tipus de negocis ha dirigit Johnny Corson?

    Johnny ha dirigit múltiples empreses, incloent una startup de jocs i una companyia d'aprenentatge online, Blue Jacketeer.

  • Quin consell dóna Johnny als joves que volen unir-se a la marina o ser emprenedors?

    Johnny aconsella preparar-se físicament, estar disposat a perdre el control sobre la seva vida i practicar la mentalitat d'aprendre a vendre's a si mateix.

  • Com equilibra Johnny Corson la seva vida entre les seves obligacions militars i l'emprenedoria?

    Johnny gestiona la transició entre la seva feina militar i l'emprenedoria aprenent a compartimentar i a canviar de mentalitat segons la situació.

  • Quina és l'experiència d'emprendre mentre encara està en servei militar?

    Johnny va trobar reptes com la gestió del temps i la necessitat de no influir indegudament en altres mariners amb rangs inferiors mentre desenvolupava el seu producte "Blue Jacketeer".

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    what is up legendary leader viewers and
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    listeners today I have the honor of
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    interviewing Johnny Corson Johnny's a
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    good friend of mine I've known him a
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    couple years he's helped me quite a bit
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    in my entrepreneurial Journey I'm
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    indebted to Johnny in in a lot of ways
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    uh Johnny's a Navy vet he's a dad a
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    successful entrepreneur who's run
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    multiple companies and he's now a
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    venture capitalist which is very cool uh
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    Johnny how you doing today man good how
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    are you doing man I'm doing well doing
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    well it's great seeing you it's always
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    great talking to you man than you thank
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    you um and you know you helped me a lot
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    when it comes to customer Discovery and
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    my past company and this new one that
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    I'm I'm working on now um I can only
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    imagine the advice you have to give to
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    young people who you know want to become
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    entrepreneurs or or want to do something
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    in in the military so let's get right
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    into it uh Johnny could you give a quick
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    overview of your career what you've been
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    through and overall um you know the big
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    successes and failures you've had over
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    the past uh over the past career that
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    you've
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    lived yeah yeah sure let me get give you
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    a bit of a wave top so um I've always
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    been entrepreneurial I've always had
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    kind of an opportunity to um monetize in
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    in unique ways and in fact so even
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    mowing lawns as a kid or uh you know
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    turning a buck while catching fish um
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    that that's kind of always been a part
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    of who I am but I I did want a bit more
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    structure and I wanted to leave my
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    hometown in Alaska so that's what
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    motivated me to join the Navy and um as
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    you can imagine the Navy is not exactly
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    um the the place that can in gender
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    entrepreneurial Spirit but as as much as
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    one can I had a good grasp of my own
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    career and it was a Choose Your Own
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    Adventure type um I really had a great
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    experience in the Navy and that kind of
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    culminated um in using a company a
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    startup entrepreneurialism to um to to
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    transition out of the military so it was
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    a strategy of mine but even before that
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    I had started I was you out of Japan and
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    I had a lot of time on my hands so I had
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    designed and had someone develop the uh
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    quiz game called quiz hero I launched a
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    company called pillar games and um it
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    was a a quiz game it was a Japanese RPG
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    type uh just kind of a silly thing that
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    that I put together and that was the
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    start I'd say that was the Genesis of
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    actual entrepreneurialism so I wasn't
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    you know selling uh Italian sodas to
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    high schoolers was I I really had a
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    product and I I got it in front of some
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    pretty cool people um you know a story
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    for a campfire in a beverage is uh the
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    time that I went to it was in 2014 I was
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    invited to the military ENT uh military
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    influencer no entrepreneurialship
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    something it was at the Inc 5000
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    conference and it was a small contingent
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    of us that were invited there um given
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    you know kind of free reign an
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    opportunity to meet some cool people
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    like um the founder of GoDaddy and some
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    and some others but while I was there
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    that year the uh the number one fastest
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    growing company in America was fuu which
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    was um creator of the navi tablet it was
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    a children's uh game tablet it was a
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    repurposed um Chinese I think tablet
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    that they just wrapped a a um plastic
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    skin around and stole it to kids but
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    anyway long story short I landed on
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    their um the navi tablet featured apps
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    uh for quiz hero and I was so super
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    stoked uh fast forward a couple months I
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    launched the game on a Friday um put
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    some just a small amount of of money
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    into marketing and then on Monday some
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    leaders in my command I was stationed in
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    Pensacola Florida at the time some
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    leaders in my command had uh come into
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    my office and said hey how would you
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    feel if we told you you were deploying
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    in three weeks for seven months and at
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    first I was crushed I was like wow that
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    that completely upends any opportunity
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    for me to to see this game flirt but
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    also it was a place that I didn't expect
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    to to deploy and I had a wife and two
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    small kids and so I said well you know
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    like a good soldier uh I said all right
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    well you know I got to do what I got to
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    do and went home and told my wife and
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    she was obviously um crushed initially
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    but man she she stepped right up and and
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    yeah kind of took the reins at the house
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    for for the seven months I was gone now
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    it was at that deployment I was I was
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    actually um I was on a ship and I pulled
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    into Kingston Jamaica and it was my
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    birthday and I had a call from my U my
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    son and he said it's first full sentence
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    which was Daddy when you're coming home
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    and man that crushed my spirit it was
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    that was kind of like the Genesis of how
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    do I get out of here it was like the rip
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    cord like how do I pull the rip cord get
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    out of the military spend some time with
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    my kids and uh yeah so I just kind of uh
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    wrestled with that problem on the top of
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    that ship with this beautiful kind of
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    Kingston Jamaica back ground um in that
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    same time there's a lot going on yeah
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    yeah there was a lot going on and I I
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    had as a career counselor that was my my
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    role in Pensacola I was a career
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    counselor to a thousand Sailors um
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    throughout about 11 clinics and
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    hospitals in in that area so they're
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    mostly medical folks and one of the
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    sailors on the ship had come to me and
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    said hey I'm I'm having a hard time with
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    this exam and for your listeners and
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    viewers and and for your edification
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    Navy sailors have to take an exam
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    inlisted Sailors take an exam to promote
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    throughout their career it's called the
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    Navy advancement exam and that exam it's
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    probably more correctly understood as in
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    in the space as like 700 plus mini exams
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    offered to hundreds and sometimes
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    thousands of of people in a year so um
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    this sailor he came to me and said hey
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    you know I'm having a hard time if I
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    don't pass I'm going to get kicked out
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    um it's it's a program called highear
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    tenure so I said wellow maybe I could I
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    had this game this app and what I
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    thought was I could probably build a CSV
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    file that I could upload to to the API
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    and then just have him play this like
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    game built for 12 year olds um and and
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    quiz himself in that U that material so
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    that was what started um I I did some
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    market research I found um the players
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    in the market one of them had launched
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    recently it was an MVP it was really
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    only targeted to his small niche in in
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    the Navy uh and I met Allen so Allen's
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    the yin to my yang I I remember we
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    communicated back and forth for a few
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    months and I found out that just he is
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    the product in techm I really liked the
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    business and the the um strategy so we
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    really came together and I remember it
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    was October um I I had come back from
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    deployment we had taken a trip to Hawaii
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    and I remember being in the car when
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    Allan uh reached back out to me and said
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    hey let's do this yeah all right that's
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    my ticket out because I knew at that
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    point that you know I could get out I
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    could take the GI Bill get some money
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    from the GI Bill and then I could also
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    build this company in a relatively safe
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    space while transitioning out of the
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    military so so that's what we did we
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    built that company and over uh six years
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    we um kind of took the market by storm
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    we led the Innovation and and uh sold
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    that company to Kaplan in
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    2021 uh yeah I've done some things since
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    but uh yeah that's the kind of that's
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    the Highlight that's amazing man and I
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    think what I find so captivating about
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    your story is that you you seem to have
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    the um you know the structure of the
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    military and you know being a military
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    man a Navy man knowing how to live by
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    the regimen live by a schedule but then
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    also you know with entrepreneurship it's
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    crazy uh you're doing one thing day
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    after day and then the next week
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    everything changes and then you're
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    running out of cash and then you have
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    cash and and whatnot yeah tell me before
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    we dive into your your time in the Navy
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    tell me how you deal with uh crazy
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    amounts of structure and then no
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    structure whatsoever uh because
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    entrepreneurs they they they deal with
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    no structure really well but in order to
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    serve the country and you know be
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    selfless like like you did you have to
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    be okay with massive a massive sense of
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    structure but also commands from higher
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    ups I mean tell me how do you deal with
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    that Push Pull and how is that how has
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    that trained your entrepreneur Spirit
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    over the past you know X number of years
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    you've you've been an
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    entrepreneur yeah that's a good question
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    um I've I've always kind of um pred
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    myself in the op in the ability to
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    compartmentalize and you know for
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    example when I was building blue Jacker
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    I was also getting my undergraduate
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    degree online finishing out my um my
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    time in the Navy and so I really had to
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    just flip the switch and as you can
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    imagine you put one half hat on you kind
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    of operate in that function and there's
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    a a time at which you take that hat off
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    and put another hat on I think the
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    degree to which you can manage that um
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    micr transition in the day um Can can
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    make a huge impact on your ability to
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    operate now I knew that when I put my my
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    sailor hat the uh the bucket hat on I
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    knew that there was a box that I was
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    playing in right I knew the rules this
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    is the environment these are the the
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    four walls now you you put that
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    entrepreneurial hat on and the the walls
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    kind of fade away right there there are
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    still rules and there's but the walls
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    fade away and it was a really freeing so
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    going back and forth was was the um the
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    opportunity for me to flex that and it
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    really gave me confidence and that's why
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    whenever I talk to anyone who's
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    interested in hey should I take make
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    that jump and start this company sure
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    don't leave your your day job before you
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    do that but yeah why don't you practice
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    that muscle a little bit before you go
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    you know deep diveing and you know put
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    put your future finances at risk uh on
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    something that truly is um an absolute
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    Journey tell me man growing up in Alaska
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    and then getting into the military
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    trying to leave your whole your hometown
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    you have this tremendous sense of
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    self-awareness and the adaptability that
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    muscle to go back and forth between
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    structure and no structure where the
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    hell does it come from I mean is it as
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    simple as you were born with it or did
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    you see your family with it growing up
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    um what about your your your growth your
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    upbringing and then your journey just
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    helps you become such an adaptable
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    person yeah a bit of uh nature and
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    nurture um I I think that so my parents
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    were always entrepreneurial as well um
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    and they'll never watch this but um they
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    I watched them fail so many times at at
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    things but they never stop they're just
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    so so um tenacious in in all of their
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    efforts my dad's a Salesman at heart he
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    sold countertops and cars and homes and
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    stuff so um I I think there's a bit of
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    that environment that I was I was always
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    kind of privy to but also and you
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    mentioned Alaska Alaska has this kind of
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    independent Alaska raises very
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    independent people and I think part of
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    it is because in order to just exist
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    there there's a measure of Independence
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    but it's also the culture there so um I
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    learned to do things on my own very
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    early and I was solo camping Seven Mile
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    hikes at like you know 13 14 years old
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    um you know trudging into the woods I
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    was driving my truck up into the
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    mountains at to a cabin so that's all
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    stuff that I had to do on my own you you
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    to figure stuff out that's really
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    similar to to entrepreneurship where
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    there's there's nobody telling you what
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    to do so on the absolute opposite of of
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    the Navy is there's nobody telling you
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    what to do you have to to be able to um
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    be efficient in that process that's
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    amazing um and now leaving your hometown
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    and you know wanting to get out and look
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    at the world and and see it for what it
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    is I'm I mean there are millions of
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    young people who probably feel that way
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    today and and in the past yeah what
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    advice would you give to a young person
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    who is looking to go into the military
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    change their lives and just see the
  • 00:12:25
    world or at least gain some new
  • 00:12:26
    experience and
  • 00:12:27
    skills
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    oh gosh I've had many of these
  • 00:12:32
    conversations and it always I think the
  • 00:12:35
    Crux of the issue is that um there's
  • 00:12:38
    comfort in your hometown there's people
  • 00:12:41
    that know you there's people that you
  • 00:12:43
    know and you know you you remember when
  • 00:12:45
    that store changed owners and you know
  • 00:12:49
    there's that familiarity of that um I
  • 00:12:51
    think that time and everyone's life is
  • 00:12:53
    very formative and so I think that like
  • 00:12:56
    you know 18 to 24 year old time period
  • 00:12:59
    is the absolute right opportunity to
  • 00:13:01
    test your boundaries to um gain exposure
  • 00:13:04
    to widen your aperture however you want
  • 00:13:06
    to to to phrase that but it's that um
  • 00:13:11
    that uncertainty of leaving comfortable
  • 00:13:13
    spaces that um that I think uh is a bit
  • 00:13:17
    of a a tricky mindset my brother's a
  • 00:13:20
    navy recruiter in Alaska right now and
  • 00:13:22
    he's having those conversations
  • 00:13:24
    regularly um and part of his ability to
  • 00:13:27
    communicate the the value proposition of
  • 00:13:29
    the Navy to these individuals is the
  • 00:13:32
    opportunity to tell his story and to say
  • 00:13:34
    I was you know in Spain for three years
  • 00:13:37
    I was here I was there I did this I and
  • 00:13:40
    to to someone who's you know um even
  • 00:13:42
    just in a HomeTown that that appeals to
  • 00:13:47
    I think most people that that are uh
  • 00:13:49
    physically fit and you know healthy in a
  • 00:13:51
    way that that would you know at least
  • 00:13:54
    get you above the bar for the Navy now
  • 00:13:56
    final question pre pre- Navy life but
  • 00:13:59
    all right a young man or woman is dead
  • 00:14:02
    set on joining the military what should
  • 00:14:05
    they have in order to do or what should
  • 00:14:08
    they have in order or what should they
  • 00:14:09
    be doing to prepare for a successful at
  • 00:14:12
    least fouryear tenure while serving the
  • 00:14:16
    country uh physical fitness is one uh
  • 00:14:19
    that just comes to mind the other is um
  • 00:14:23
    I would say practicing maybe in some
  • 00:14:25
    respect the um the art of not having
  • 00:14:30
    control so um you know as much as you're
  • 00:14:34
    in high school and you're like ah what I
  • 00:14:35
    really want is control over my I want to
  • 00:14:37
    be my own person you absolutely do not
  • 00:14:40
    have that opportunity in the military
  • 00:14:41
    especially the first four years so as
  • 00:14:44
    much as one can um you know condition
  • 00:14:47
    their mind for that um and in a
  • 00:14:50
    pre-military training um they call it de
  • 00:14:54
    or something like that uh it it
  • 00:14:57
    conditions you to be in that money
  • 00:14:58
    mindset so yeah just listen to your
  • 00:15:00
    recruiters or
  • 00:15:02
    don't so you know you're in the military
  • 00:15:05
    now and you're experimenting with
  • 00:15:07
    entrepreneurship and building new things
  • 00:15:09
    yeah tell us more about that that battle
  • 00:15:12
    uh or or the balance the the push pull
  • 00:15:14
    between um dealing with your daily
  • 00:15:17
    duties but then also trying to cultivate
  • 00:15:19
    that sense of creativity and wherewithal
  • 00:15:22
    and drive to independently Chase your
  • 00:15:24
    own project I mean was there red tape
  • 00:15:27
    you had to cut through in order to to to
  • 00:15:29
    build your own thing and if there was
  • 00:15:30
    how'd you deal with it and then of
  • 00:15:32
    course the balance of Duty versus
  • 00:15:34
    creativity tell us more about how you
  • 00:15:36
    balance that yeah in fact there was a
  • 00:15:40
    very uh poignant moment where we were
  • 00:15:43
    building blue Jack tier blue Jack tier
  • 00:15:45
    was selling to Navy sailors so yeah um
  • 00:15:48
    there's this obvious issue in the
  • 00:15:50
    military where someone of of higher rank
  • 00:15:52
    is influencing the purchasing decision
  • 00:15:54
    of someone of lower Rank and I'm
  • 00:15:57
    directly uh benefiting from that
  • 00:16:00
    interaction and so there was an
  • 00:16:02
    opportunity for me and it was in
  • 00:16:04
    Pensacola and it was years after um quiz
  • 00:16:08
    hero and as I was transitioning to um
  • 00:16:11
    South Carolina for the year before I
  • 00:16:12
    left but the um command master chief at
  • 00:16:15
    the time was teaching uh
  • 00:16:16
    entrepreneurship classes at the the
  • 00:16:18
    local community college so I couldn't
  • 00:16:20
    have had a better champion on my side
  • 00:16:23
    yeah to to and on a few occasions we
  • 00:16:26
    would talk about blue jacket tier and he
  • 00:16:27
    would he would make it clear this this
  • 00:16:30
    is your red tape as you mentioned and um
  • 00:16:33
    in order for this to grow in order for
  • 00:16:35
    this to to kind of blossome you need to
  • 00:16:37
    get out of the military and so what I
  • 00:16:40
    would do is I wouldn't sell the product
  • 00:16:42
    I would I would nowhere was I the face
  • 00:16:43
    of the product um and and certainly not
  • 00:16:46
    my rank but what I would do is I I would
  • 00:16:49
    um include those of my same ranks those
  • 00:16:53
    first class study officers I would go to
  • 00:16:55
    them and ask them questions about what
  • 00:16:56
    what would you do to build a product for
  • 00:16:57
    your sailors and then I'd just go and
  • 00:16:59
    Implement that the thing that comes to
  • 00:17:01
    mind is the 10we study plan so we we
  • 00:17:03
    just had this and it was you know an
  • 00:17:05
    exam prep tool we had an exam prep tool
  • 00:17:07
    that existed as you know Bank of
  • 00:17:08
    questions an individual could go through
  • 00:17:10
    but then we offered this 10we study plan
  • 00:17:12
    it was just a PDF document that said
  • 00:17:14
    read this read this read this and here's
  • 00:17:15
    your 10 weeks before you know when your
  • 00:17:17
    exam is that was born out of a
  • 00:17:19
    conversation I had with with a first
  • 00:17:21
    class petty officer a good friend of
  • 00:17:23
    mine and and that's the type of like uh
  • 00:17:26
    interaction I had early that built brand
  • 00:17:29
    Champions that then as the military
  • 00:17:32
    happens everyone left Pensacola but they
  • 00:17:35
    had stories that they knew of Johnny
  • 00:17:37
    Corson in Pensacola who was one of the
  • 00:17:39
    founders of blue Jack here so it just
  • 00:17:41
    kind of spread um and we really got to
  • 00:17:44
    to that um product Le growth through the
  • 00:17:48
    uh Champions that were born out of that
  • 00:17:49
    Pensacola um early stage very cool very
  • 00:17:53
    cool and then um you know as you're
  • 00:17:55
    going out and um you know going out and
  • 00:17:59
    building this thing after the the
  • 00:18:02
    military what was that transition like
  • 00:18:05
    going from a fully structured life and
  • 00:18:08
    you know them shipping you around and
  • 00:18:10
    being away from your family to to of
  • 00:18:11
    course being with family which is
  • 00:18:12
    amazing but then just going out into the
  • 00:18:15
    wild and trying to get this product out
  • 00:18:16
    there and building the company tell us
  • 00:18:18
    more about what that Journey was like
  • 00:18:20
    and what it was like just having the
  • 00:18:22
    guard rails almost taken off and it's
  • 00:18:25
    just all up to you now it was scary I
  • 00:18:28
    won't lie um and I was a career
  • 00:18:30
    counselor so I was in the business of
  • 00:18:33
    retaining Sailors for the Navy that was
  • 00:18:35
    our metric and if you did that well you
  • 00:18:37
    were recognized by the Navy for your
  • 00:18:39
    retention efforts so I spent years
  • 00:18:42
    convincing Sailors to stay in but I
  • 00:18:45
    think what helped me in my transition
  • 00:18:48
    was that there were a few Sailors that I
  • 00:18:50
    that thankfully my retention numbers
  • 00:18:52
    were so high that I had the opportunity
  • 00:18:54
    there were a few Sailors who came to me
  • 00:18:55
    who just clearly were going to succeed
  • 00:18:58
    out side of the military and and I could
  • 00:19:00
    then just be a sounding board for them
  • 00:19:03
    and a cheerleader for them and and work
  • 00:19:05
    with them to transition out so I didn't
  • 00:19:07
    find myself really convincing too many
  • 00:19:10
    people to stay in um and when it came
  • 00:19:13
    time for me to make my plan the hardest
  • 00:19:16
    thing for me was the certainty of income
  • 00:19:18
    that the military provides and as you
  • 00:19:21
    can imagine you go 20 years in the
  • 00:19:22
    military it's one of the last defined
  • 00:19:24
    benefit uh plans out there so you get a
  • 00:19:27
    paycheck for the rest of your life in in
  • 00:19:29
    the retirement of of the Navy they
  • 00:19:32
    actually don't do that anymore it's
  • 00:19:33
    defined a contribution now which um it
  • 00:19:36
    is for me uh those people who I were who
  • 00:19:39
    I was having these conversations with
  • 00:19:41
    would say are you sure you want to do
  • 00:19:42
    that because you could just write out
  • 00:19:44
    the next 10 years do this these things
  • 00:19:46
    as side gigs and have the and I knew
  • 00:19:49
    enough about myself that I couldn't do
  • 00:19:51
    that as a side gig I needed to kind of
  • 00:19:54
    Chomp on a bit and then I also used so I
  • 00:19:56
    had the GI Bill and thankfully you spend
  • 00:19:59
    enough time in the military they offer
  • 00:20:00
    you an opportunity to earn your your
  • 00:20:02
    degree I had had my undergrad paid for
  • 00:20:05
    by tuition assistance while I was active
  • 00:20:07
    duty and so I had this chunk of the GI
  • 00:20:10
    Bill and um and I transitioned and I
  • 00:20:13
    knew I'm going to go get my Master's
  • 00:20:15
    Degree I'm going to use the stable
  • 00:20:17
    income that comes from the basic
  • 00:20:19
    allowance for housing that's offered by
  • 00:20:21
    the GI bill as kind of that's my my
  • 00:20:24
    standard we weren't paying ourselves at
  • 00:20:26
    blue jacket here yet either so there was
  • 00:20:28
    and I remember more more importantly I
  • 00:20:30
    had to almost convince my partner who
  • 00:20:32
    had left about a year before me I had to
  • 00:20:35
    convince him hey we're going to get to a
  • 00:20:37
    point where you will be able to do this
  • 00:20:38
    and that and and don't you know so that
  • 00:20:41
    to me was um was important was it was
  • 00:20:45
    scary but I had kind of a plan and I
  • 00:20:47
    said hey if this works and I'm
  • 00:20:48
    extrapolating the data and saying well
  • 00:20:50
    look if if we continue our growth we'll
  • 00:20:53
    be able to pay ourselves handsomely
  • 00:20:54
    eventually so and that's how it happened
  • 00:20:57
    that's amazing um the growth of blue
  • 00:20:59
    Jacker you're you know you had a
  • 00:21:01
    successful exit you you sold it to a
  • 00:21:03
    very big company I mean it's incredible
  • 00:21:06
    um tell us about what the learning
  • 00:21:08
    process was like on a on a macro level
  • 00:21:10
    you know you went from the military
  • 00:21:12
    you're a self-taught entrepreneur I mean
  • 00:21:14
    like a lot of entrepreneurs are self
  • 00:21:15
    toop but there's no business degree
  • 00:21:16
    there for you um you know I don't have a
  • 00:21:18
    degree in business
  • 00:21:20
    either just a lot of learning and
  • 00:21:22
    getting your ass kicked on a day-to-day
  • 00:21:24
    basis tell me more tell me more about
  • 00:21:27
    you know how Johnny the person how
  • 00:21:29
    Johnny the the sailor went from Johnny
  • 00:21:30
    the entrepreneur to Johnny the exited
  • 00:21:33
    entrepreneur what was that
  • 00:21:34
    transformation period like you know what
  • 00:21:36
    were the the key pain points and yeah
  • 00:21:40
    what did what did you learn from from
  • 00:21:42
    just the entire
  • 00:21:43
    experience I can tell you that I have an
  • 00:21:45
    undergrad in Business Administration it
  • 00:21:48
    was absolutely useless for the practical
  • 00:21:50
    application of of running a company and
  • 00:21:53
    it was simultaneous and I remember
  • 00:21:55
    having it was this um it was an Excel
  • 00:21:57
    class CL that I was in and I was
  • 00:21:59
    building Financial models for the for
  • 00:22:01
    blue Jacker at the time and then I have
  • 00:22:03
    to go to this class where they're like
  • 00:22:05
    cell A1 type equals some and I'm like
  • 00:22:08
    guys like none of this matters like you
  • 00:22:10
    need to be you know very contextualized
  • 00:22:13
    um so my undergraduate degree um I would
  • 00:22:16
    say you know at the risk of
  • 00:22:18
    of not encouraging people to go get
  • 00:22:21
    their undergraduate degree but it it did
  • 00:22:22
    not apply at all um what did apply and
  • 00:22:25
    I'll I'll plug this resource for you um
  • 00:22:27
    it doesn't exist anymore in its current
  • 00:22:29
    form but it was called bunker in a box
  • 00:22:31
    and what it was is like a a 14 module
  • 00:22:34
    just like absolute uh fire hose of the
  • 00:22:38
    best entrepreneurship information
  • 00:22:41
    whether it was books or podcasts or blog
  • 00:22:44
    articles and it was it was uh you walked
  • 00:22:47
    through it was gamified um in fact uh
  • 00:22:50
    toting my own horn here I had the
  • 00:22:52
    highest score in fact I had a higher
  • 00:22:54
    score in Bunker and a box than the uh
  • 00:22:57
    than the guy who made it inside bunker
  • 00:23:00
    um and I think it was just because I was
  • 00:23:02
    relentless at consuming information and
  • 00:23:06
    and preparing myself for what what I
  • 00:23:08
    would say is and this is a mantra of
  • 00:23:10
    mine um the certainty of uncertainty
  • 00:23:13
    which was actually gained through um a
  • 00:23:16
    conversation with CEOs at the Inc 5000
  • 00:23:18
    conference I mentioned earlier but when
  • 00:23:20
    you talk about the uh
  • 00:23:23
    gaining let's say the confidence to be
  • 00:23:26
    able to continue in what is uncertain in
  • 00:23:29
    the future um that hap happens through
  • 00:23:32
    having good people around you um my
  • 00:23:34
    partner Allan was AB my absolute Rock
  • 00:23:36
    he's the into my yang we had other
  • 00:23:38
    people champions in the space I had you
  • 00:23:41
    know my wife who was in you know in my
  • 00:23:43
    corner 100% And so and they were willing
  • 00:23:46
    to um to risk it with me so I never felt
  • 00:23:50
    like I was you know at like a blackjack
  • 00:23:52
    table with my dollars putting dollars
  • 00:23:54
    down that that's not how I I felt I felt
  • 00:23:57
    like there were other people around me
  • 00:23:59
    um yeah which blessing and occur
  • 00:24:02
    sometimes you know if Things Fall Apart
  • 00:24:04
    but uh related to the exit um so I don't
  • 00:24:09
    I don't know how many people say you
  • 00:24:10
    know think think about the end have the
  • 00:24:12
    end in mind when when you start but we
  • 00:24:15
    launched the company in 2016 April um be
  • 00:24:18
    middle of 2017 I posted to slack that
  • 00:24:21
    will sell the company to Kaplan for $12
  • 00:24:23
    million um we didn't actually get to 12
  • 00:24:26
    million uh thinks maybe to
  • 00:24:28
    but um there was this opportunity for us
  • 00:24:31
    to see everything in the product road
  • 00:24:34
    map beyond that point through the lens
  • 00:24:36
    of of a sale to Kaplan and so we we
  • 00:24:39
    jumped on board with a a design team a
  • 00:24:42
    nationally recognized design team who
  • 00:24:44
    actually designed the brand for tear the
  • 00:24:47
    paper ceiling uh opportunity at Works um
  • 00:24:50
    skill through alternative routes
  • 00:24:52
    initiative and so that's 368 so they
  • 00:24:54
    redesigned blue jacket here they they
  • 00:24:56
    actually designed entirely ever prep and
  • 00:24:58
    and the brand strategy there as well but
  • 00:25:01
    that was our thinking was let's do this
  • 00:25:03
    as if we're going to sell it and worst
  • 00:25:05
    case scenario we never sell it and it it
  • 00:25:07
    you know happens to be a great product
  • 00:25:08
    but when we built the stable of offers
  • 00:25:12
    before selling it to Kaplan and we went
  • 00:25:14
    to Kaplan I mean it was so easy we were
  • 00:25:17
    speaking their language we knew what
  • 00:25:19
    their their um their motivations were so
  • 00:25:22
    I think it may it and you could ask them
  • 00:25:24
    on that side if that made any difference
  • 00:25:27
    but for it was like just absolutely teed
  • 00:25:29
    up for them and and we were going to
  • 00:25:31
    take anybody else to be fair so yeah
  • 00:25:35
    that's how it happened I I don't know if
  • 00:25:37
    you and I ever bonded over this but when
  • 00:25:40
    um I was a student at the George
  • 00:25:42
    Washington University I was a career
  • 00:25:44
    Ambassador like a career counselor for
  • 00:25:46
    for students there a lot of students
  • 00:25:48
    were you know former Navy or just former
  • 00:25:50
    military in general and one of the key
  • 00:25:53
    anxieties
  • 00:25:55
    was they go from a a place place of
  • 00:25:57
    structure to no structure or or rather
  • 00:26:00
    they just don't know what the private
  • 00:26:02
    sector looks like they don't know what a
  • 00:26:03
    meeting is like and whatnot and to me
  • 00:26:06
    you know when I was working with these
  • 00:26:07
    people I thought like you're way more
  • 00:26:09
    qualified than more people you know I
  • 00:26:12
    once had a a young woman who she she
  • 00:26:15
    handled some type of ammunition or like
  • 00:26:17
    like firearm like like a weapon on a
  • 00:26:19
    ship and you know she was crying in the
  • 00:26:21
    session like I don't know what I'm going
  • 00:26:22
    to do with with my life and this that
  • 00:26:23
    I'm like you know you you you've done I
  • 00:26:26
    promise you you've done more than most
  • 00:26:28
    people have in their 20s you know and
  • 00:26:30
    and this poor girl was was just so
  • 00:26:32
    scared what end up happening was a year
  • 00:26:34
    later I met her um she said a random
  • 00:26:36
    restaurant in DC and you know life is
  • 00:26:38
    going so well was going so well for her
  • 00:26:40
    so um I love seeing veterans succeed um
  • 00:26:44
    especially after you know doing a a tour
  • 00:26:45
    of Duty for the country if you had a a
  • 00:26:49
    list of five things you could tell a
  • 00:26:50
    veteran who's leaving the the Armed
  • 00:26:53
    Forces um to do in order to succeed at
  • 00:26:57
    least have the easiest transition into
  • 00:26:59
    the private sector what would those five
  • 00:27:01
    things
  • 00:27:03
    be yeah um first and foremost uh there's
  • 00:27:07
    a company called pre veteran uh
  • 00:27:09
    Founder's name is Jason Anderson he
  • 00:27:11
    wrote a book that changed uh or really
  • 00:27:15
    it empowered me to take those
  • 00:27:17
    entrepreneurial risks before getting out
  • 00:27:19
    and his Mantra is to start the
  • 00:27:21
    transition two years early so what
  • 00:27:24
    happens is and the military it's
  • 00:27:25
    terrible at this they they wait till
  • 00:27:27
    you're about six months out and they say
  • 00:27:29
    all right now now let's you know put you
  • 00:27:31
    in a class that um translates your
  • 00:27:33
    military experience to the civilian
  • 00:27:35
    world there's a lot of context that that
  • 00:27:38
    U the service members are missing and
  • 00:27:40
    like like you said they don't know what
  • 00:27:41
    a meeting is or they don't know um how
  • 00:27:44
    to to flex their um their strengths BEC
  • 00:27:47
    and the other thing is the we and me
  • 00:27:50
    there you don't talk about yourself in
  • 00:27:51
    the military there's very very few
  • 00:27:53
    opportunities where you stand up and and
  • 00:27:55
    champ you're a champion for yourself
  • 00:27:56
    it's a very um the in the Navy it's uh
  • 00:28:00
    ship shipmate self so it's like the
  • 00:28:02
    ship's the most important your Shipmates
  • 00:28:04
    your team around and then it's like yeah
  • 00:28:06
    you know at the end if you have any gas
  • 00:28:08
    left in the tank you know go ahead and
  • 00:28:09
    take care of yourself but yeah so let's
  • 00:28:12
    let's see if I can um narrow this down
  • 00:28:14
    to five things um first and foremost
  • 00:28:16
    start way way earlier than anyone else
  • 00:28:19
    is is telling you to do it um I would
  • 00:28:22
    say um contrary to maybe what other
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    would think listen to the naysayers
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    understand what they
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    what what they are keying in on and then
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    just address those issues I'm not saying
  • 00:28:32
    adopt them and you know live in that
  • 00:28:34
    that kind of that mindset but listen to
  • 00:28:36
    them and and understand what the the
  • 00:28:39
    fruit of of what they're saying is the
  • 00:28:41
    seed and so here we're on three I would
  • 00:28:44
    say three is prepare yourself
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    financially and that happens because the
  • 00:28:50
    military gives you a pay they also take
  • 00:28:52
    care of your healthare they take care of
  • 00:28:54
    your housing there's a lot of things
  • 00:28:55
    that are kind of um wrap around services
  • 00:28:58
    that the military just absolutely takes
  • 00:28:59
    care of and when you get out you have to
  • 00:29:01
    figure that stuff out yourself um and so
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    i' would say financially um just kind of
  • 00:29:05
    prepare yourself you don't expect that
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    you're going to land that that six
  • 00:29:08
    figure job right away um yeah so and
  • 00:29:11
    then the me and we learn how to sell
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    yourself learn how to be a champion for
  • 00:29:16
    yourself and and build a network of
  • 00:29:18
    people who are going to also Champion
  • 00:29:19
    you um the old saying that you know um
  • 00:29:22
    the worst time to um build a network is
  • 00:29:25
    when you need one so yeah that part
  • 00:29:27
    that's part of like the the two years
  • 00:29:29
    Out start building your network um yeah
  • 00:29:31
    and then last I would say is um you're
  • 00:29:33
    100% of the people in the military will
  • 00:29:35
    eventually leave the military right so
  • 00:29:37
    there's a certainty in the fact that you
  • 00:29:39
    will eventually get there so um I would
  • 00:29:42
    say just never have that like it'll
  • 00:29:44
    never happen in your moment that's I
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    think the the most destructive thing uh
  • 00:29:49
    that I've seen Sailors where they're
  • 00:29:51
    forced out for one reason or another and
  • 00:29:53
    then they're just you know put into a
  • 00:29:55
    weird place so yeah that's fine amazing
  • 00:29:58
    yeah um last couple questions now for
  • 00:30:02
    our our rapid fire um what's your
  • 00:30:05
    morning and nighttime routine look like
  • 00:30:07
    it and let's caveat this by saying
  • 00:30:09
    you're a dad and you're a new dog dad um
  • 00:30:12
    what did it look like at the height of
  • 00:30:14
    blue Jacker and what does it look like
  • 00:30:16
    today and and what do you do to keep
  • 00:30:18
    yourself sharp on a day-to-day
  • 00:30:22
    basis yeah that's a good question at the
  • 00:30:24
    height of blue Jacker I was also getting
  • 00:30:25
    my master's degree in leadership which I
  • 00:30:27
    would say was really applicable way more
  • 00:30:31
    applicable than my under business um
  • 00:30:35
    yeah my so I'm a I'm a early bird um I
  • 00:30:38
    think the military kind of breeds that
  • 00:30:41
    type so um yeah and I drink a lot of
  • 00:30:44
    coffee um I actually don't drink alcohol
  • 00:30:46
    this year I'm taking a year off um as
  • 00:30:48
    you can imagine Sailors are are also
  • 00:30:51
    Adept at that so um yeah my my morning
  • 00:30:55
    routine is currently um just managing
  • 00:30:59
    the sporadic Descent of children into
  • 00:31:02
    the living room um and and then just
  • 00:31:05
    kind of you know sending well wishes to
  • 00:31:07
    my kids and my my wife as I come back
  • 00:31:09
    upstairs and you know jump into my home
  • 00:31:11
    office so nothing crazy but I do like to
  • 00:31:13
    listen to music and I start every day
  • 00:31:16
    kind of understanding the Cadence of the
  • 00:31:17
    day so I get a sense of like oh my
  • 00:31:19
    afternoon's kind of light this is what
  • 00:31:21
    I'm G to do you know so that's kind of
  • 00:31:22
    like I I you know kind of give my get
  • 00:31:24
    myself into a posture before I I start
  • 00:31:27
    day but nothing crazy yeah um so next
  • 00:31:33
    question the last two are wild card
  • 00:31:35
    questions here so you know excuse how
  • 00:31:37
    how poy they are
  • 00:31:40
    but what period of time in human history
  • 00:31:43
    or natural history would you go back to
  • 00:31:46
    to just see what's going on and and take
  • 00:31:50
    in the vibes your safety is guaranteed
  • 00:31:52
    so you will come back to the year 2024
  • 00:31:54
    as when we're recording this um in one
  • 00:31:56
    piece totally and sound um one would you
  • 00:31:59
    go back to
  • 00:32:01
    yeah uh thanks for the question I'm
  • 00:32:04
    going to steal Andrew Cohen's answer uh
  • 00:32:07
    I know that he talked about going back
  • 00:32:09
    to to Jesus's Ministry and just
  • 00:32:11
    observing that absolutely pivotal time
  • 00:32:14
    in in human history and I would just you
  • 00:32:17
    know maybe not uh bend the ear of Jesus
  • 00:32:20
    himself but those around him and just
  • 00:32:22
    understand uh you know what was going on
  • 00:32:24
    what the motivations were and it changed
  • 00:32:27
    the course of human history and I I'm
  • 00:32:29
    just I am particularly I mean I got a
  • 00:32:32
    degree from a seminary as well but I am
  • 00:32:34
    particularly interested in um in that
  • 00:32:38
    kind of uh yeah that that time period so
  • 00:32:41
    that's my answer thanks Andrew it's
  • 00:32:43
    fascinating I I went to so I went to
  • 00:32:45
    Catholic school for for high school um
  • 00:32:47
    and for some of elementary school so you
  • 00:32:49
    know I'm well versed in you know Jesus's
  • 00:32:51
    teachings um and the key tenants and
  • 00:32:54
    principles but I I never knew you know I
  • 00:32:56
    don't know I don't know if we at
  • 00:32:58
    historians or people know what he did in
  • 00:32:59
    his life like on a day-to-day or
  • 00:33:02
    extracurricular basis and other theories
  • 00:33:04
    like he went to India or something and
  • 00:33:06
    traveled or or whatever but I'd be
  • 00:33:08
    interested in knowing that because that
  • 00:33:09
    influences the man and um yeah great
  • 00:33:13
    answer final question now is that you're
  • 00:33:15
    going to dinner you can bring three
  • 00:33:17
    people with you wife and kids not
  • 00:33:19
    allowed so so you know you have amnesty
  • 00:33:21
    there um which three people dead or
  • 00:33:23
    alive famous or obscure are you bringing
  • 00:33:25
    with
  • 00:33:29
    uh I'd bring Elon Musk I'd bring niola
  • 00:33:32
    Tesla okay oh yeah bring someone yeah
  • 00:33:37
    I'd bring someone who uh wins the go to
  • 00:33:41
    dinner with these two Lottery and agrees
  • 00:33:43
    to just absolutely shut up so that would
  • 00:33:46
    be someone who who just sits there and
  • 00:33:49
    like me just takes it all in those would
  • 00:33:53
    be uh those would be my two and then the
  • 00:33:55
    other guys just as long as or wom just
  • 00:33:58
    as long as they agree to you know ask
  • 00:34:00
    good questions and and stay out of their
  • 00:34:02
    way I'd love to hear those to jam that's
  • 00:34:05
    amazing um Johnny thank you for your
  • 00:34:07
    time today wonderful interview uh love
  • 00:34:09
    learning from veterans turn
  • 00:34:11
    entrepreneurs but you know I love I love
  • 00:34:12
    talking to you you're so full of wisdom
  • 00:34:15
    um and you've been very supportive of of
  • 00:34:17
    my journey and you know I've reached
  • 00:34:19
    success or some semblance of success and
  • 00:34:21
    and you've you've been a part of it um I
  • 00:34:23
    won't put your email in the show notes
  • 00:34:25
    but I do recommend Young entrepreneurs
  • 00:34:28
    uh you know hit you up on LinkedIn or
  • 00:34:30
    somewhere and and say hey Johnny I'm a
  • 00:34:32
    young person just trying to get into the
  • 00:34:33
    entrepreneurship game or I want to learn
  • 00:34:35
    more about the military Johnny will
  • 00:34:37
    answer um and if he has a time of day he
  • 00:34:39
    will he will help you out um Johnny
  • 00:34:41
    thank you for your time you have a
  • 00:34:43
    wonderful rest of your day and um
  • 00:34:46
    hopefully we'll have a part two soon
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