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what's more important to you credibility
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or going
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viral a lot of times cam I don't even
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know I don't I didn't know I I didn't
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know it was going to go viral a lot of
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these clips that go viral I remember
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when I did Cam I remember getting up and
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I turn back and I look at my cat excuse
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me cat cat and I look at my producer and
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he's shaking his head I'm like a man we
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done messed up so I'm like what did I
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say yeah did I say something did he did
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he
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he
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like this is going to be the talk of 24
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no way I'm like you think so he's like
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sh he and he's looking at me just like
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I'm looking at you Cam he's like shanon
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this is this is going to be viral for
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the whole year I said come on man I said
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so I'm thinking at that point in time
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Steve Harvey is my biggest viewed uh is
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my most viewed podcast he's a 8 million
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I said you think we going to beat Steve
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he's like yeah I'm hoping pretend
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million that's all cam if I get 10
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million I'm like that's a pretty good
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interview think about how how few people
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that's in the space that interview
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people that don't get 10 million for
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sure so if I get 10 million that's one
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of the biggest podcast now that's not
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Joe Rogan's numbers but that's pretty
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good for upand cominging podcast so I
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felt
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good
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man
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man but here's the thing I tell people
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if I had cat miked up from the time he
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got out of the truck until the time he
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sat down it done 100
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million oh he was on it he was on it
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listen first off um we going to get the
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cap but what is it to say about your
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podcast or your your
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platform
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if your talent roll out has never really
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told cuz it happens it happened to me
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all the time or happened to me multiple
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times when somebody said hey bro I
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appreciate if we don't talk about Blas
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blah yes and it comes by way of a male
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or even a female we not talking about
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this from a from a journalist uh from a
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publicist or Supporting Cast it happens
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all the time and if you haven't had that
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I got news for your sister I got news
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for your brother you ain't popping the
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way you think you are because it when
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you got a roll out of uh uh Cat Williams
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uh uh Cam Newton marshan Lynch uh like
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everybody Monique when you go down the
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list of of Steve Harvey like these are
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Big deals right in the entertainment
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right you know space of course it's
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going to come with I would appreciate it
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if we're not talking about Blas BL yes
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you see what I'm saying right now one
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thing that I do respect about
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cat he came with a lot of receipts yeah
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and it wasn't as if I'm looking at an
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iPad to keep me on
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track man his mental focus throughout
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the whole thing was so admirable cuz I'm
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like yo no you said this about this
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person or that person said that he had
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studied cat he had studied every
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interview that I had done conversation I
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had he had studied because a lot of
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things that we didn't mention on the
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show he was talking about it at but if
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you
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notice he was like he was doing this he
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did this a lot so his
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recall everybody everything that
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somebody had said that he had a question
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it didn't happen like that because I
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asked S I said
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s cat once accuse you of stealing a joke
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s said I didn't steal the joke because
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the timeline doesn't doesn't match up
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and I think he said something to the
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effect if you look at how his joke ended
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how mine ended cat came back he refuted
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that I want credibility
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I want guy I want people to be able to
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share their story without me
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interrupting I think sometimes people in
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our position that do what you and I do
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they want to hear their voice instead of
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the guest well I can go home and hear
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myself talk if I wanted to if that's
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what I wanted to hear I think for the
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most part that people tune in to watch
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my pod because they want to hear what
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the guest have to say I let the guest
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speak people say well you push back on
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Amanda seals and all I said was Amanda
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did you think being a child correcting a
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teacher in front of the
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students could it have been something
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else other than racism that's all and
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people lost it well you didn't push back
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I asked Mo'Nique Mo'Nique said Oprah ask
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her to to interview for a ro to go read
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for a role she went read for the role
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Oprah ended up getting the role I said
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Mo did you ever think they were looking
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for a heavy set black
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woman and it wasn't because the industry
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was against
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she said my brother I didn't think about
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it like
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that but see they don't they don't
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mention that right because that
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wouldn't I got to try to I've got to try
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to do something to try to Quail this
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momentum that shanon this wave that
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Shannon is riding so any way I can try
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to undercut him or to make him look like
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he I'm not a journalist I didn't I never
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told anybody I was a journalist I said
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I'm a conversationist but what people
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are upset about is that for some reason
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people come to me and I don't look at
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them with judgy eyes I have no pre
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predetermined notion or preconceived
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notions and they open up to me right
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that's what they're upset about because
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if you look at a lot of these people
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that's been on other podcast they don't
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do the views that they do when they come
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on Club sh Shay
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correct CU it that's that's an a
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testament to you and the environment or
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the atmosphere that you give it's very
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comfortable people want to render their
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story in a way where like you say you
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let them talk MH um but also being into
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this person that you've
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become
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more equipment or artillery is being
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shot at you yeah Amanda seals you being
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insensitive after Mo wherever whoever
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they even say Club sh Shon turned into a
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message
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show he he ain't he cooning he ain't for
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the people uhhuh you see what I'm saying
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I do I do and uh I don't have anything
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bad to say about Amanda I thought we had
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a great time I'm sorry um that once we
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aired what we aired I mean she was there
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for three hours um I'm sorry that she
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didn't feel like she got an opportunity
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to say What She Said wanted to get off
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her chest um I probably was one of the
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few that gave her opportunity to share
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her story to say her side I didn't cut
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her off when she said what she said
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about Issa Ray and said some some of the
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other things that she had said I let her
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speak because I but just the one time I
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was like and cam you and I like and
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maybe it's because I'm from the South
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but correcting a teacher even if the
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teacher was wrong what man
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listen I'm like they they they they they
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do that they allowed and so that was
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that was that was my only thing
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other than that I let her speak freely I
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didn't say anything about that I didn't
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say anything when when she said the guy
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like I said you're a revolutionary in
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and she got reprimanded and she had to
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apologize I could have said well Amanda
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had he said you a revolutionary be how
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would you have felt see you can't
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automatically assume just because you're
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the same race everybody responds to that
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end word the exact same correct so you
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have to be careful especially in a
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prophetic a professional setting now had
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to cook out I might call you the end I
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might call you I might call you the end
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all day but you have to understand the
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settings in which you're in and what you
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can and can't say let me tell you what
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you didn't know I caught astray from
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that interview did you definitely did
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because the truth of the matter is
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Amanda seals spoke in regards
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to uh isay uh-huh I had already shot
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isay okay
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the trajectory of that interview of Club
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Shay made Isa and her team not want to
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put out our show so I have not put out
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out of respect that's what you didn't
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know but that's just I mean it's a
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domino effect yes had knowing what I
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know not I wish I would have I wish your
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interview would have happened and then
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she would have had an opportunity to
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speak because I see from e side as well
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as just it was um image control right we
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don't want to look you have a go back
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correct because that that interview by
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the when we did issa's interview
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Amanda's interview I'm not sure when you
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guys posted it or shot it it wasn't
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posted yet right so I didn't want to do
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her a disservice but with that being
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said is please let's run it back dig
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give an opportunity to respond you know
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but um do you ever go back or how many
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times have you watched the Cat Williams
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interview
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[Applause]
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yourself
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damn now I'm trying to think C cam I
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think I don't really like to watch him
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back because I'm absorbing it as they're
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speaking and a lot of times and I I I I
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think I went back and I watched like 30
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minutes of it and I just
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like like
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damn cuz the I went back and and I'm
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like damn he he said that what was he
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was saying so much
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right that I'm
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like but Kim I didn't I I I didn't I
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didn't know it was going to I didn't
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know it was going to cause this kind of
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Ripple um I didn't think it was going to
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move me in the direction I'm glad it did
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um I understand what comes along with
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that L but if you if you remember he
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said it he said this is going to put you
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in another dimension he definitely did
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he said but that but my mama said but
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it's power in the tongue yes he now he
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says he he told me and and and my guy
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Jordan is over there he said now they're
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going to come for you I said K come for
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me for what I didn't say anything right
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he said they're going to come
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and they're going to say a lot of
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different things and they're going to be
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some people that you thought you might
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be able to get that they're not going to
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come now right and that's absolutely has
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happened that's absolutely has happened
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they was they were so excited thanks for
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reaching out we can't wait to sit down
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and a day later they can't do it and
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then no call they won't follow so for
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and so on so I understand what comes
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along with an interview like that did I
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expect it no that I expect all the
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negativity that came along because you
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know I had Steve Harvey Steve Harvey had
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did 8 million views had coach Prime had
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you know I've had I've had a lot of
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Comedians and and and some of the
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comedians had taken shots at other
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comedians but nothing like this I didn't
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expect the bitri all to come especially
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from some of the people and I'm not
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going to say we were friend but I'm
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saying we were cordal we were friendly
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towards each other um some people that
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I've that I've that I've kind of helped
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behind the scenes and to see them attack
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oh I wouldn't have let him do this I
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wouldn't have said that but you know
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what it took me a long time cam because
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when I play when I play when you play
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sports you understand that Atlanta fans
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even though you're from Atlanta they're
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going to have a little resentment
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towards you because you beating a team
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or you you know certain certain fan Bas
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is going to feel a certain type of way
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and I felt that the better the player
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the more vitory all and hate he's going
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to get from opposing fans I got that but
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in this situation I can honestly say I
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did not expect the level of vitri all
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and the suddenness that's what really
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got me the suddenness because it was
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like when cam dropped it was like cat I
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I keep calling when when cat dropped
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it's like all of a sudden he gay now
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yeah but I'll say this though and and I
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wouldn't say
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nothing in front of you or in your
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absence that I wouldn't say in front
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your face right that was the thing
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though but this this is my tape
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okay that dropped in January January 3rd
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right
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yeah the competitor in
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me I said oh he wasn't even prepared for
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that that golden
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Ruby you know what I'm saying because
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it's like
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yo that he it's almost as if cat chose
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you he did you feel me to have that
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platform to say Hey listen cuz cat don't
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he do do it he just like you don't do
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sit Downs you see what I'm saying cam
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I've been trying to line cat up for a
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year I tried to line him up for a year
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people don't know this but cat doesn't
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like the fly he normally takes the bus
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every he takes a tour bus pretty much
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everywhere he goes and so he wasn't
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going to be on that side of town in LA
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in
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California right hand to God I go to my
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I go to my agent's office on a Friday
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mhm I'm getting off the
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elevator as I'm getting off the elevator
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a lady's getting on right she said hello
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I said hey how you doing I'm Shannon
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sharp she tells me her name she's like
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I've never seen you here before I said
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yeah my attorney is here Marvin she said
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oh I love Marvin I love Allison who's
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his daughter she said oh I said I've
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never seen you here I said I've been
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coming here 3 4 years I've never seen
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you she said oh man I'm sorry I'm sorry
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I'm just just not meeting you she said
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today is my last day I said what she
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said yeah today is my last day I said
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you got a new job she said
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uh I'm leaving to be Cat Cat Williams
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tour
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manager wow I said I've been trying to
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get cat for a year that was a Friday the
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next Friday cat sitting in that chair
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look at
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God the next Friday cat sitting I've
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been trying to line cat up for a
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year the next Friday after meeting her
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cat sitting in the
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chair he comes in I say anything you
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want to talk about I'm here brother we
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going to talk about it
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all oh
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really
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Boom the thing was if you go back and
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look at the interview I'm in after I
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introduce him we take a sip of the conac
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we laughing and talk and we you know we
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do our thing I'm getting ready to go he
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takes
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off I got to make a split second
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decision C cam do I reel him back in or
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do I let him go for 30 you got to let
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him go knowing what I know you know what
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I'm going to say that's it I let him
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go it was like he was doing a comedy
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show in club sh Shay he was doing stand
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up but he was actually sitting down
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