Glucose Goddess: The Alarming New Truth About Grapes! These 10 Hacks To Strip Fat Without Exercise!
Résumé
TLDRThe video features a conversation with biochemist Jesse Inchauspé, known as the "Glucose Goddess," who discusses glucose management and its profound effect on health. Inchauspé highlights the harmful impact of glucose spikes, associating them with issues like mental health problems, acne, insulin release, mitochondrial stress, and aging. She emphasizes that even sugars from natural sources like fruits are treated the same as refined sugars by the body. Inchauspé introduces hacks to stabilize glucose levels, such as having a savory breakfast, taking vinegar before meals, eating vegetables first, and engaging in physical activity after eating. The discussion also touches on the benefits of muscle mass for glucose regulation, conveying that muscle helps absorb glucose for energy. Foods believed to be healthy, such as honey and grapes, can lead to unexpected glucose spikes. She differentiates between types of sweeteners and explains that reduced glucose spikes contribute to reducing cravings and managing weight more effectively. Additionally, the conversation briefly covers societal trends in sugar consumption, misconceptions about sugar in foods, and the role of new technologies in understanding glucose's impact on health.
A retenir
- 🔍 Importance of Glucose: Glucose plays a crucial role in health, impacting mental well-being, aging, and fertility.
- 🍇 Misleading Sugar Sources: All sugar, even from natural sources, affects the body similarly to refined sugars.
- 🍽️ Simple Hacks: Simple dietary hacks can stabilize glucose levels, improving overall health without cutting out favorite foods.
- 🥬 Veggies First: Starting meals with vegetables can reduce the impact of glucose spikes.
- 🏋️ Muscle Power: More muscle mass aids in better glucose management.
- 🥤 Fruit Sugar Myth: The myth that fruit sugar is healthier is debunked.
- 📉 Lowering Spikes: Lowering glucose spikes also lowers cravings and aids weight management.
- 🔧 Technology's Role: New technology helps track glucose and better understand its effect on health.
- 🤔 Complex Ties: Glucose ties into broader issues like diet misconceptions and policy needs.
- 💡 Empowering Knowledge: Understanding glucose empowers healthier choices without restrictive dieting.
Chronologie
- 00:00:00 - 00:05:00
The discussion begins with a focus on the impact of sugar and glucose on health, featuring tips to manage glucose levels and potential consequences like mental health issues and infertility. The guest, Jessi Inchauspe, is introduced as a biochemist and glucose expert.
- 00:05:00 - 00:10:00
The guest emphasizes the importance of understanding glucose and the effects of sugar on the body. She dispels myths about 'good' sugar and highlights surprising foods that cause glucose spikes.
- 00:10:00 - 00:15:00
The conversation transitions to practical glucose management strategies ("hacks") that allow for enjoyment of sweets while minimizing glucose spikes. The host interrupts to thank viewers for reaching a subscriber milestone.
- 00:15:00 - 00:20:00
Jessi explains the revolution and growing awareness surrounding glucose, noting the widespread impact of glucose spikes and the importance of managing them with continuous glucose monitors and dietary changes.
- 00:20:00 - 00:25:00
The guest delves deeper into what happens during a glucose spike, explaining the roles of mitochondria and insulin in processing glucose, and how excessive spikes lead to adverse health effects like fatigue and aging.
- 00:25:00 - 00:30:00
Jessi discusses the analogy of the body cooking from the inside with glucose spikes increasing 'cooking' or aging. She explains the body's response to spikes through insulin and its impact on fat storage.
- 00:30:00 - 00:35:00
The discussion highlights various factors that influence glucose metabolism, including muscle mass, genetics, and lifestyle. The host shares a personal observation about sugar cravings.
- 00:35:00 - 00:40:00
Jessi emphasizes the genetic and environmental complexities affecting glucose responses, identifying surprise glucose spikes from foods like grapes and honey, and once-natural fruits that have been bred to contain more sugar.
- 00:40:00 - 00:45:00
The guest explores the role of sweeteners as alternatives to sugar, weighing their impact on glucose levels, and elaborates on the differences between types of sugar and their effects on the body.
- 00:45:00 - 00:50:00
Jessi shares her perspective on enjoying sugar in moderation, utilizing glucose hacks to mitigate negative effects, and encourages knowledge over restriction for a balanced diet.
- 00:50:00 - 00:55:00
The dialogue touches upon the societal and evolutionary aspects of sugar consumption, satirically critiquing government and food policies while acknowledging challenges in reversing global sugar trends.
- 00:55:00 - 01:00:00
Jessi mourns the systemic issues contributing to poor food environments and advocates for policy changes to improve public health, while highlighting her efforts in educating about glucose management.
- 01:00:00 - 01:05:00
She reiterates the long-term correlations between high glucose diets and diseases, emphasizing the importance of reducing glucose spikes not just for future health but for immediate benefits like skin condition improvements.
- 01:05:00 - 01:10:00
The benefits of glucose management extend to hormonal balance and fertility, specifically addressing PCOS, while Jessi shares anecdotal success stories from individuals implementing her hacks.
- 01:10:00 - 01:15:00
The glucose management hacks are detailed, focusing on meal composition and timing to minimize spikes, which is said to result in better health markers and weight loss without deprivation.
- 01:15:00 - 01:20:00
The strategies offered include prioritizing savory breakfasts, strategic vinegar consumption, and encouraging movement after meals to help manage glucose levels and Cravings.
- 01:20:00 - 01:25:00
The conversation explores cultural eating habits and continues to advocate simplicity in glucose management practices, with scientific backing offered for effectiveness.
- 01:25:00 - 01:30:00
Discussion on experimental data supporting the glucose hacks and how they reveal positive health impacts; potential misconceptions are addressed regarding weight loss and calorie control.
- 01:30:00 - 01:35:00
The podcast covers societal shifts influenced by food industries and diets, critiquing medical responses to metabolic diseases and advocating for systemic change beyond individual action.
- 01:35:00 - 01:40:28
Jessi concludes with thoughts on the interconnectedness of lifestyle, diet, and health outcomes, reinforcing that understanding and managing glucose can drastically improve quality of life.
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Questions fréquemment posées
Who is Jesse Inchauspé?
Jesse Inchauspé is a biochemist and best-selling author known for her work on nutrition and glucose management.
What are glucose spikes and why are they a problem?
Glucose spikes are rapid increases in blood sugar levels, leading to various health issues such as mental health problems, acne, and faster aging.
Is sugar from fruits good for you?
No, sugar from fruits is considered the same as sugar from cakes; the body doesn't differentiate.
What are some recommended hacks to reduce glucose spikes?
Four suggested hacks are having a savory breakfast, taking vinegar daily, eating veggies first, and moving after meals.
How does muscle mass affect glucose response?
More muscle mass can aid in better handling glucose, as muscles absorb glucose for energy.
What foods can surprisingly cause glucose spikes?
Foods like honey and grapes can cause significant glucose spikes.
What can manage glucose spikes aside from diet?
Continuous glucose monitors and other approaches like exercise are used for glucose management.
Is there such a thing as 'good sugar'?
No, all sugar, whether from fruit smoothies or cakes, affects the body in the same way.
What is glycation?
Glycation is the process where sugar binds to proteins or fats in the body, leading to aging and tissue damage.
How can glucose spikes affect weight loss?
By reducing glucose spikes, cravings are lowered, potentially aiding in weight management.
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- 00:00:00you're telling me that that will have an
- 00:00:01impact absolutely and the studies prove
- 00:00:02it it's an amazing ingredient that's
- 00:00:04been used for its health benefits for
- 00:00:06example it has impact on visceral fat
- 00:00:07and that belly fat yeah it's the fat
- 00:00:09that's really bad for
- 00:00:10you yeah you're not supposed to do that
- 00:00:13Stephen oh gosh the glucose goddess is
- 00:00:17back Jesse enpay is a biochemist and
- 00:00:19best-selling author with a focus on
- 00:00:21nutrition and glucose management she
- 00:00:23provides simple science-backed tips to
- 00:00:25improve our health 80% of the population
- 00:00:27have glucose spikes every single day and
- 00:00:29that's when problems start happening
- 00:00:30from mental health to acne to faster
- 00:00:32aging infertility and PCOS which is one
- 00:00:35of the leading causes of infertility in
- 00:00:36women and the problem is we're in a
- 00:00:38situation where the food landscape is so
- 00:00:40toxic and most of us just eat sugar and
- 00:00:42starches but they're literally made up
- 00:00:43of glucose molecules is there any such
- 00:00:45thing as good sugar no so even all the
- 00:00:48fruit that we find today in supermarkets
- 00:00:49is not natural some people believe that
- 00:00:51if the sugar is coming from a fruit for
- 00:00:53example in a fruit smoothie that's good
- 00:00:55sugar but that's a total lie and your
- 00:00:57body doesn't differentiate but the sugar
- 00:00:59isn't a fruit smoothie or the sugars in
- 00:01:00a chocolate cake are there any foods
- 00:01:02that have surprised you when you tested
- 00:01:03them yes I think the biggest ones are
- 00:01:07wow this begs the question then is there
- 00:01:09a healthy way to consume sugar so these
- 00:01:11are four hacks that people can Implement
- 00:01:13in their lives and you're able to reduce
- 00:01:14your glucose spikes while still eating
- 00:01:16what you love and you took these hacks
- 00:01:17and did an experiment yes and 90% of
- 00:01:20people reduce their Cravings really
- 00:01:22significant impacts on sleep hormones
- 00:01:24mood on diabetes and it says roughly 40%
- 00:01:27of people who wanted to lose weight did
- 00:01:28in fact lose weight yep so what are the
- 00:01:30hacks the first one
- 00:01:34is this is a sentence I never thought
- 00:01:36I'd say in my life um we've just hit 7
- 00:01:39million subscribers on YouTube and I
- 00:01:40want to say a huge thank you to all of
- 00:01:42you that show up here every Monday and
- 00:01:44Thursday to watch our conversations um
- 00:01:47from the bottom of my heart but also on
- 00:01:48behalf of my team who you don't always
- 00:01:50get to meet there's almost 50 people now
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- 00:01:54put this together so from all of us
- 00:01:56thank you so much um we did a raffle
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- 00:02:20one of those lucky people thank you from
- 00:02:22the bottom of my heart let's get to the
- 00:02:26[Music]
- 00:02:27conversation Jesse in chasby the glucose
- 00:02:30goddess we spoke two years ago and in
- 00:02:34that time I feel like there's been a
- 00:02:36real glucose Revolution much of which
- 00:02:38has been led by you your books have sold
- 00:02:40millions and millions and millions of
- 00:02:41copies around the world your
- 00:02:43conversations online have millions and
- 00:02:44millions and millions and millions of
- 00:02:45views more than I could possibly
- 00:02:47count what's going on with glucose the
- 00:02:51thing is glucose has always been
- 00:02:53incredibly important to our health but
- 00:02:56it's been going on behind the scenes but
- 00:02:59now now but with the technology that we
- 00:03:01have glucose monitors new science we're
- 00:03:03actually able to get a real good handle
- 00:03:05on it and understand our diet through
- 00:03:07that lens so most of us Stephen have
- 00:03:11unhealthy glucose levels to give you an
- 00:03:14example one billion people in the world
- 00:03:15have either type two diabetes or
- 00:03:17pre-diabetes one billion and that number
- 00:03:20is increasing every single day and then
- 00:03:22in people who don't have any health
- 00:03:24issues up to 80% of the population still
- 00:03:27has glucose spikes every single day and
- 00:03:30this leads to lots of symptoms from
- 00:03:31mental health problems to fertility to
- 00:03:33acne to faster aging glucose is really
- 00:03:36important and I'm really happy that
- 00:03:37we're talking about it more what have
- 00:03:39you have you been surprised by how much
- 00:03:41people have woken up to glucose sugar
- 00:03:44yeah definitely I think even the word
- 00:03:46glucose people used to know blood sugar
- 00:03:47but now the fact that people know what
- 00:03:49glucose is makes me quite happy that's
- 00:03:51the scientific way to refer to blood
- 00:03:53sugar it's surprising but the thing is
- 00:03:55like I'm on the inside I'm working every
- 00:03:57single day to make sure people know what
- 00:03:58glucose is so it's like you know when
- 00:04:01you put the frog in the water and then
- 00:04:02you slowly boil the water you know that
- 00:04:04image and the Frog doesn't notice the
- 00:04:05water is boiling that's how I feel
- 00:04:07because I've been doing this for five
- 00:04:08years now so I can tell now if I compare
- 00:04:11today to five years ago there's been a
- 00:04:13huge shift but I've been looking at it
- 00:04:15every single day day by day and the
- 00:04:17increase has been very gradual how do
- 00:04:20you define yourself there's this sort of
- 00:04:23name you go under the glucose goddess
- 00:04:26but professionally if someone says what
- 00:04:28you do H how do you define that I say
- 00:04:31I'm a biochemist I'm a biochemist
- 00:04:34passionate about sharing science in a
- 00:04:36fun accessible sexy way that's what I
- 00:04:38like to do these cgms continuous glucose
- 00:04:41monitors that everybody seems to be
- 00:04:43wearing these days they're much of the
- 00:04:46the reason people I guess know you
- 00:04:51because you post these incredible graphs
- 00:04:53on your Instagram showing the impact
- 00:04:55that of the things we on our glucose
- 00:04:58levels yeah I want to start there when I
- 00:05:01eat something sweet and full of sugar
- 00:05:04there's a spike in my CGM so my
- 00:05:06continuous glucose monitor does does the
- 00:05:09spike mean that something bad is going
- 00:05:12on in my body kind of yeah so I'll go
- 00:05:16just one step back there's lots of
- 00:05:19different categories of foods but there
- 00:05:20are two that impact our blood sugar
- 00:05:23levels it's starches so that's bread
- 00:05:26rice pasta potatoes oats and sugars so
- 00:05:30anything sweet from an apple pie turn
- 00:05:32orange juice these two categories of
- 00:05:35foods they're literally made up of
- 00:05:36glucose molecules so when you eat them
- 00:05:39they break down into individual glucose
- 00:05:41molecules and the glucose molecules
- 00:05:42arrive into your blood if you eat a lot
- 00:05:44of starches and sugars at once a lot of
- 00:05:46glucose molecules are arriving into your
- 00:05:48blood and that's what you see that's the
- 00:05:50spike you see on your glucose monitor
- 00:05:53now these Spikes have a few different
- 00:05:56consequences you know having a few
- 00:05:58spikes here and there is not not a big
- 00:06:00deal but if you have really big spikes
- 00:06:01which I think most of us are discovering
- 00:06:03we have even if we don't have diabetes
- 00:06:05that's when problems start happening
- 00:06:06there's basically three processes that
- 00:06:08take place in your body when you spike
- 00:06:10it's chronic fatigue of your
- 00:06:12mitochondria aging glycation and then
- 00:06:15insulin release and I can go into detail
- 00:06:18into these but these are what underpin
- 00:06:20all the negative consequences of glucose
- 00:06:22spikes so start with that first one okay
- 00:06:24the mitochondria so there's these little
- 00:06:26factories in your cells that are in
- 00:06:28charge of making energy you must have
- 00:06:29learned this at school you know the
- 00:06:30mitochondria is the factory of the cell
- 00:06:34these little mitochondria are constantly
- 00:06:36trying to make energy for your body and
- 00:06:38they turn glucose into energy so you
- 00:06:41give them glucose through food they turn
- 00:06:43it into energy and then your brain uses
- 00:06:45the energy your heart to pump your ears
- 00:06:47to listen your eyes to see your whole
- 00:06:50body uses this energy and so you might
- 00:06:52think okay I want lots of energy so I
- 00:06:54should give my mitochondria lots of
- 00:06:55glucose That's The Logical conclusion
- 00:06:57you might come to but that where it
- 00:06:59completely collapses see biology is a
- 00:07:01bit weird take the example of a plant do
- 00:07:04you have any plants at home I do yeah
- 00:07:05okay are you able to keep them alive um
- 00:07:08my cleaning does a great job of keeping
- 00:07:09all them alive I have a super hard time
- 00:07:12but the reason I'm bringing up plants is
- 00:07:14because you know that plants need some
- 00:07:15water to live but if you give them too
- 00:07:18much water they drown and they die the
- 00:07:21human body is kind of the same some
- 00:07:23glucose amazing steady energy too much
- 00:07:26glucose and your little mitochondria
- 00:07:28start freaking out out they get
- 00:07:30overwhelmed by too much glucose Reviving
- 00:07:33their way they kind of go on strike and
- 00:07:35I'm French so I know but they sort of go
- 00:07:37on strike and they get overwhelmed and
- 00:07:39stressed out and they're not able to
- 00:07:40make energy effectively anymore because
- 00:07:42we're overloading them with too much
- 00:07:44glucose to process and as a human what
- 00:07:47do you feel you feel chronic fatigue you
- 00:07:50wake up you're exhausted thinking of
- 00:07:52going to the grocery store or picking up
- 00:07:54your kids is super tiring there's this
- 00:07:57Energy System in your body is just kind
- 00:07:59of of broken but you keep eating carbs
- 00:08:01you know croissant some bread something
- 00:08:03sweet but you keep being more and more
- 00:08:05tired that's your mitochondria
- 00:08:08dysfunctioning so that's the first thing
- 00:08:09that happens when you spike you get
- 00:08:11tired your mitochondria gets stressed
- 00:08:16out and one thing that's interesting is
- 00:08:19that sometimes when we eat something
- 00:08:20sweet especially in the morning like an
- 00:08:21orange juice we kind of feel a sense of
- 00:08:25like a like a rush of energy you know
- 00:08:27you have a big glass of orange juice and
- 00:08:28you sort of perk up for a sec most
- 00:08:30people think that that is energy what's
- 00:08:33actually going on is that Sugar releases
- 00:08:35dopamine in the brain and it's the
- 00:08:37pleasure molecule it's the same molecule
- 00:08:39that gets released when you have sex
- 00:08:41when you play video games when you do
- 00:08:43illegal drugs sugar releases dopamine
- 00:08:46it's pleasure it makes you kind of feel
- 00:08:48awake just briefly but actually that's
- 00:08:50not energy because on the inside your
- 00:08:52mitochondria are being damaged so we're
- 00:08:54being tricked by sugary foods and when
- 00:08:56we're tired we often reach for something
- 00:08:58sugary to per us up but it doesn't work
- 00:09:00on the inside so that's the first thing
- 00:09:03your mitochondria gets stressed out and
- 00:09:05as your mitochondria gets stressed out
- 00:09:07they also release what's called free
- 00:09:08radicals which is something that
- 00:09:10increases inflammation in the body and
- 00:09:11inflammation is really nasty thing we'll
- 00:09:14get to it in a sec the second thing that
- 00:09:16happens when you spike has to do with a
- 00:09:18chicken cooking in the oven so if you
- 00:09:21put you're looking at me weird but let
- 00:09:22me explain if you put a chicken in the
- 00:09:25oven it goes from pink to brown right
- 00:09:28you've seen this it books this process
- 00:09:31of cooking is called glycation it's the
- 00:09:34process of Browning or of cooking same
- 00:09:37thing when you toast a piece of toast
- 00:09:38for
- 00:09:39example the interesting thing is a human
- 00:09:42being from the moment we're born we're
- 00:09:44slowly cooking in that same way on the
- 00:09:48inside we're slowly glycating we're
- 00:09:50slowly Browning and then when we're
- 00:09:53fully glycated when we're fully cooked
- 00:09:57we die that's why when you look at the
- 00:09:59cartilage of babies it's white and if
- 00:10:02you look at the cartilage of somebody
- 00:10:03who's 90 years old it's brown they've
- 00:10:05cooked on the inside and every glucose
- 00:10:08Spike increases you're looking at your
- 00:10:10skin yeah from the outside we'd have to
- 00:10:13like open you up and look at your
- 00:10:14cartilage color got about 10 minutes
- 00:10:18left and every glucose Spike increases
- 00:10:21his process of glycation so much so that
- 00:10:23glucose and glycation they kind of sound
- 00:10:26like a similar word glucose glyc a it's
- 00:10:30because it's glucose doing the glycating
- 00:10:33so every glucose Spike increases
- 00:10:36glycation increases cooking accelerates
- 00:10:39aging and this shows on your skin you
- 00:10:42get wrinkles faster if you glycate more
- 00:10:44and also on the inside your organs
- 00:10:47slowly get damaged so glucose spikes
- 00:10:50mitochondria get tired you age
- 00:10:53faster in response to this your body
- 00:10:56knows Stephen that a big glucose spike
- 00:10:58is not good for you your body knows that
- 00:11:01it has to do something to try to get
- 00:11:03that glucose level down so what it does
- 00:11:05it calls up your pancreas and it's like
- 00:11:08yo pancreas we got a glucose bike going
- 00:11:09on we need to get this glucose down in
- 00:11:12response your pancreas sends a hormone
- 00:11:14called insulin out in your body you've
- 00:11:17heard of insulin before right and
- 00:11:19insulin's job and we love her her job is
- 00:11:21to grab all these excess glucose
- 00:11:24molecules and to store them away so they
- 00:11:27don't damage your body anymore and
- 00:11:29Insulin stores glucose away into your
- 00:11:32liver into your muscles and then when
- 00:11:35those are full insulin stores glucose
- 00:11:38away into your fat cells and that's one
- 00:11:41of the ways that you gain fat on your
- 00:11:43body it's in response to the spikes and
- 00:11:46your body trying to protect you from the
- 00:11:48spikes the problem is insulin itself has
- 00:11:51consequences and is the driver of type
- 00:11:54two diabetes and insulin resistance so
- 00:11:56to answer your question yes when you see
- 00:11:58a big spike on your glucose monitor
- 00:12:00there's some of that going on and the
- 00:12:02more spikes you have the harder it is
- 00:12:04going to be for your body to manage your
- 00:12:05spikes so it kind of becomes a vicious
- 00:12:07cycle if you keep eating the same way
- 00:12:09your spice will get bigger and bigger
- 00:12:11and bigger and bigger over time with
- 00:12:12more and more damage on that last point
- 00:12:14about where insulin stores the excess
- 00:12:17glucose does that mean that if I have
- 00:12:19more muscle mass I'm better at eating
- 00:12:23sugary products yep and that's why if
- 00:12:26you really love cookies the best time to
- 00:12:28eat them is right after you work out
- 00:12:30right before you work out because your
- 00:12:32muscles are really hungry for glucose
- 00:12:33all the time and the bigger your muscles
- 00:12:35are the more you use them the more
- 00:12:37they're going to capture some of that
- 00:12:38glucose for energy okay so me and my
- 00:12:41partner we both go to the gym she is
- 00:12:43significantly smaller than me in every
- 00:12:44way she's she's short she's you know
- 00:12:47she's lean um I'm bigger than her I have
- 00:12:50I have more muscle mass that means that
- 00:12:52if I have one cookie and she has the
- 00:12:54exact same cookie then her glucose
- 00:12:56response is going to be potentially
- 00:12:58significantly different to mine
- 00:12:59yes potentially so if you just look at
- 00:13:02muscle mass since you have more muscle
- 00:13:03mass you'll be able to handle that
- 00:13:04cookie better but there's so many things
- 00:13:07that influence glucose response for
- 00:13:08example your level of hydration how
- 00:13:11stressed you are your microbiome your
- 00:13:13genetics what time of the month you're
- 00:13:14in when you're female how well you've
- 00:13:17slept last night I mean there's a few
- 00:13:19factors so if you were just to compare
- 00:13:21your Spike to hers you couldn't really
- 00:13:23draw any conclusions because there's so
- 00:13:25many confounding variables there's
- 00:13:28confounding variables give me a window
- 00:13:29into some of them and why they matter
- 00:13:31and how they have an impact on my
- 00:13:32glucose
- 00:13:33response so I think muscles is a really
- 00:13:35good example right if two people eat the
- 00:13:37same exact cookie the person with more
- 00:13:39muscle mass is going to potentially see
- 00:13:41a smaller glucose Spike because their
- 00:13:43muscles are going to absorb more of that
- 00:13:45glucose and faster if you look at
- 00:13:48genetics some people are better at
- 00:13:50growing their fat cells and at growing
- 00:13:52the number and the size of their fat
- 00:13:54cells so they have a bigger Reservoir to
- 00:13:57put glucose in people of South Asian
- 00:13:59descent for example they tend to have a
- 00:14:01harder time putting on fat cells and as
- 00:14:04a result their glucose spikes tend to be
- 00:14:06bigger because they don't have that
- 00:14:07storage unit that they can access and
- 00:14:10increase the size of does that make
- 00:14:11sense yeah yeah yeah are there any foods
- 00:14:15that you have been surprised at when
- 00:14:17you've tested them because this is one
- 00:14:19of the really shocking things that I
- 00:14:22discovered when I wore a continuous
- 00:14:23glucose monitor is I would eat some
- 00:14:25things that I've been eating for a long
- 00:14:27long time and they would cause a spike
- 00:14:29and I like what I thought that was
- 00:14:31healthy yeah um but what are those
- 00:14:33things I guess for the suris the
- 00:14:35surprising ones not just for you but for
- 00:14:36people that message you and go oh my God
- 00:14:38Jesse I've been lied to about my tomato
- 00:14:40ketchup or okay I think the biggest ones
- 00:14:42are honey and grapes okay so grapes
- 00:14:46first you think it's a fruit it's
- 00:14:49healthy it's natural it's good for me
- 00:14:51right well actually all the fruit that
- 00:14:53we find today in supermarkets is not
- 00:14:55natural it is the product of human
- 00:14:58breeding for thousands and thousands of
- 00:15:00years to make them extra sweet extra
- 00:15:02juicy in the same way that humans have
- 00:15:04been breeding dogs from the time of the
- 00:15:06gray wolves into Chihuahua and Golden
- 00:15:09Retrievers these are not natural types
- 00:15:11of dogs we've bred wolves into these
- 00:15:14dogs fruit is the same thing we've bred
- 00:15:17pces of fruit to make these beautiful
- 00:15:19grapes without any seeds and just this
- 00:15:22little pocket of sugar and so a grape
- 00:15:24when you look at it actually it's just a
- 00:15:26big dose of sugar it's in the fruit
- 00:15:29format so people think it's good for
- 00:15:30them but actually when it comes to your
- 00:15:31glucose levels it's just big glucose
- 00:15:34Spike so those are really surprising all
- 00:15:37fruits it varies right so for example
- 00:15:40berries are lower in Sugar so create a
- 00:15:43smaller Spike but any tropical fruit
- 00:15:45like bananas mangoes papayas and then
- 00:15:48grapes also those are really high in
- 00:15:50sugar yeah but the thing is you know
- 00:15:51piece of whole fruit is okay because it
- 00:15:54has fiber in it the real problem comes
- 00:15:56when you denature that piece of fruit
- 00:15:58and you turn it into a juice for example
- 00:16:00cuz then you're removing that protective
- 00:16:02fiber just extracting the water and the
- 00:16:04sugar yeah I've not drank a glass of
- 00:16:06juice since starting this podcast
- 00:16:07because so many people have spoken to
- 00:16:09have told me that it's just like
- 00:16:10drinking sugar water yeah it's just like
- 00:16:11drinking a can of Coke but people think
- 00:16:13well it comes from a piece of fruit so
- 00:16:15it's natural orange juice comes from
- 00:16:16oranges therefore it's good for you
- 00:16:18because it's natural what they don't
- 00:16:20realize is that the sugar in a can of
- 00:16:22soda is also natural it comes from sugar
- 00:16:25beets or canes so if you're you're
- 00:16:29really looking at the source of the
- 00:16:30sugar you realize it doesn't matter at
- 00:16:31all they all come from plants what
- 00:16:33matters is the concentration and the
- 00:16:35medium that the sugar is in I understand
- 00:16:38grapes causing a glucose Spike because
- 00:16:40when I taste it it tastes sweet but
- 00:16:43there's some things that I eat that
- 00:16:44don't taste sweet that cause a glucose
- 00:16:46Spike and those are the things that I
- 00:16:48think lie to me like bread like bread
- 00:16:50like rice yeah well the thing is glucose
- 00:16:53is actually not sweet what you're
- 00:16:55tasting in fruit is fructose so let me
- 00:16:58explain so starches like bread pasta
- 00:17:02rice potatoes
- 00:17:04oats those are starches those are
- 00:17:06literally millions of glucose molecules
- 00:17:09just attached hand to hand like this
- 00:17:12that's a starch it's just a long chain
- 00:17:14of glucose when you eat the starch poof
- 00:17:16it turns into individual glucose
- 00:17:17molecules raises your blood sugar even
- 00:17:19though it doesn't taste sweet in a piece
- 00:17:22of fruit or in Sugar you're not eating
- 00:17:24starch what you're eating is sucrose
- 00:17:27different kind of molecule which which
- 00:17:28is half glucose half
- 00:17:32fructose yeah so when it breaks down it
- 00:17:34gives you glucose and a spike but also
- 00:17:36fructose that tastes really sweet but
- 00:17:39doesn't raise your blood sugar levels
- 00:17:41that much so again on the other side of
- 00:17:43the queen then are there foods that
- 00:17:45taste sweet but don't have an impact on
- 00:17:47my glucose yes
- 00:17:48sweeteners Stevia aspartame things like
- 00:17:51that so you saying that I should put
- 00:17:54sweeters in my food as opposed to Sugar
- 00:17:58well I think people need to realize that
- 00:18:00even though sweeteners are not super
- 00:18:01good for us right of course it's better
- 00:18:02to drink water than a diet soda the diet
- 00:18:05soda is better for you than the regular
- 00:18:07can of soda with the 30 grams of real
- 00:18:09sugar in there I personally would never
- 00:18:13have a can of real soda I would always
- 00:18:15have the diet soda always always always
- 00:18:17because those sweeteners don't raise
- 00:18:20your blood sugar levels okay they don't
- 00:18:22create that big spike and that big
- 00:18:23insulin Spike and then the drop is there
- 00:18:26such a good thing as good sugar m
- 00:18:29is there any such thing as good
- 00:18:31sugar
- 00:18:33no people often believe that if the
- 00:18:36sugar is coming from a fruit and is is
- 00:18:38for example in a fruit smoothie that
- 00:18:40they might have in the morning that's
- 00:18:41good sugar but that Sugar that's in a
- 00:18:43cake is bad sugar so people tend to
- 00:18:46compare these two and say oh well I'm
- 00:18:49having a fruit smoothie that's good for
- 00:18:50me but oh that chocolate cake would be
- 00:18:52bad for me that's a total lie it's all
- 00:18:54the same molecules the molecules in that
- 00:18:57fruit smoothie and the molecules in that
- 00:18:59chocolate cake are the same it's sucrose
- 00:19:01it's the same stuff and your body
- 00:19:02doesn't differentiate whether the sugar
- 00:19:05is in a fruit smoothie or the sugar is
- 00:19:06in a chocolate cake so all sugar is the
- 00:19:09same even you know honey Agave maple
- 00:19:12syrup all these things that have these
- 00:19:14Health Halos because of marketing it's
- 00:19:16all the same molecules so I recommend
- 00:19:19that people just have the sugar that
- 00:19:20they like best don't think that one is
- 00:19:22going to be better for you than the
- 00:19:24other and have all sugar as dessert so
- 00:19:26that fruit smoothie that's also dessert
- 00:19:28dessert it's not super healthy because
- 00:19:30it comes from fruits it's just like the
- 00:19:31chocolate cake and are there is there
- 00:19:34such a thing as good sweetness and bad
- 00:19:36sweetness yeah so there's a few
- 00:19:37categories so the ones that seem to be
- 00:19:39really fine for us are Stevia monk fruit
- 00:19:43and allulose the ones that have been
- 00:19:45linked to quite a few health issues are
- 00:19:48aspartame ml sucralose so for example a
- 00:19:53Spartan you usually find it in soda
- 00:19:55whereas Stevia you might buy a little
- 00:19:57packet at home and put it in your tea
- 00:19:59that being said the spart tame is still
- 00:20:02better for you than the real can of coke
- 00:20:04with a 30 grams of real sugar so Stevia
- 00:20:06is something that I shouldn't be no
- 00:20:08Stevia is good yeah you shouldn't be too
- 00:20:10concern do you use Stevia I didn't put
- 00:20:12any Sweetness in anything I didn't put
- 00:20:13sugar in anything either so I'm trying
- 00:20:15to stay away have coffee it's just black
- 00:20:17coffee you don't even eat chocolate of
- 00:20:19course I chocolate maybe not so much
- 00:20:21maybe that's not my thing but what's
- 00:20:23your sweet thing carrot cake what's your
- 00:20:26sweet thing oh chocolate I love
- 00:20:28chocolate like my favorite is is like
- 00:20:29chocolate ice cream with a chocolate
- 00:20:31brownie and chocolate sauce and
- 00:20:32chocolate sprinkles anything chocolate
- 00:20:35that's not very glucose godess well
- 00:20:37here's where you're wrong Stephen I'm
- 00:20:38actually not anti- sugar what are you
- 00:20:40talking about no I love sugar I eat
- 00:20:42sugar I eat carbs all the time but I
- 00:20:44want people to know what I know which is
- 00:20:47how and when to eat those things that's
- 00:20:49the end of the podcast thank you so much
- 00:20:51really great to see you
- 00:20:54again seriously we need to learn how to
- 00:20:57eat these things cuz they're so
- 00:20:58delicious in a way that's less bad for
- 00:21:00our health it's not about cutting them
- 00:21:01out that would be a diet I don't I'm not
- 00:21:03I'm not pro diets I'm Pro knowledge and
- 00:21:06I want to make sure people are not
- 00:21:06having sugar and dessert for breakfast
- 00:21:09you know sweet cereal in the morning and
- 00:21:10orange juice that's dessert anyway I'm
- 00:21:13all about just trying to empower people
- 00:21:15with the information so they don't get
- 00:21:16trapped by these marketing lies are we
- 00:21:20meant to be eating the amounts of sugar
- 00:21:22that we eat though like are we meant to
- 00:21:24be eating any sugar is what does our
- 00:21:26sort of evolutionary history tell us
- 00:21:27about our relationship with glucose I
- 00:21:29think fruit is something we're meant to
- 00:21:31be eating but the fruit that used to
- 00:21:32exist was less sweet and harder to
- 00:21:35digest and more fibrous and then in
- 00:21:37terms of starches starches are totally
- 00:21:39fine to eat the problem is today most of
- 00:21:41us just eat sugar and starches we've
- 00:21:43completely lost touch with the nice
- 00:21:46proteins and the organ meats and the
- 00:21:48fiber and the healthy fats we're in a
- 00:21:50situation where the food landscape is so
- 00:21:52toxic and it's so just starches and
- 00:21:54sugars that people are getting sicker
- 00:21:55and sicker and sicker and it's addictive
- 00:21:58and it's cheap so we're in a very
- 00:22:00difficult situation and that's the
- 00:22:02situation that you know the gp1s are
- 00:22:03trying to solve we're in a pickle we are
- 00:22:06in a pickle are you optimistic about the
- 00:22:08pickle we're in as it relates to sugar
- 00:22:10and
- 00:22:13Creos I have to say yes because the
- 00:22:16amount of Transformations I see in my
- 00:22:18readers is really encouraging you know
- 00:22:21people are reclaiming their health
- 00:22:22getting power over it understanding food
- 00:22:25again but we've got a lot of work to do
- 00:22:27and I can do my work educating people
- 00:22:29from the ground up on these hacks but we
- 00:22:31also need like systemic change we need
- 00:22:33policy we need governments to get
- 00:22:35involved and we need to find ways to
- 00:22:37make healthier food because we're just
- 00:22:38killing the population right now it's
- 00:22:40really terrible so talking about some of
- 00:22:42the consequences of a high glucose diet
- 00:22:47one of them you mentioned earlier when
- 00:22:48we were talking about glycation is
- 00:22:51aging has anyone ever done any research
- 00:22:54to prove that a high glucose diet is
- 00:22:57associated with correlated with
- 00:23:00increased or accelerated aging I mean
- 00:23:03yes because we see that the people who
- 00:23:04eat the most sugar get the most diseases
- 00:23:08right so we see correlations but they're
- 00:23:09not they're not like a clinical trial
- 00:23:11you can't take two populations and say
- 00:23:13okay everybody's 30 years old we're
- 00:23:15going to give this half a healthy no
- 00:23:17glucose Spike diet and this half glucose
- 00:23:19spikes every single day and then we'll
- 00:23:21see when they're 80 you know which group
- 00:23:23has aged faster we can't do that that's
- 00:23:25unethical so we have to look at
- 00:23:27correlations and we see things like if
- 00:23:29you have really high glucose levels High
- 00:23:31insulin levels you're more likely to get
- 00:23:33heart disease dementia depression etc
- 00:23:36etc we have correlative studies and we
- 00:23:39understand the mechanism of the
- 00:23:41glycation what about the superficial
- 00:23:43signs of aging wrinkles like the
- 00:23:45wrinkles a lot of skincare products
- 00:23:47actually Target glycation from the
- 00:23:48outside in so they'll put like
- 00:23:50antioxidants on your skin to reduce
- 00:23:52glycation if you're in the skincare
- 00:23:54World you'll see glycation mentioned
- 00:23:55everywhere what they don't do is they
- 00:23:57don't look at at how to reduce glycation
- 00:24:00from the inside out which is what I
- 00:24:02think is more interesting and it's
- 00:24:04through food by reducing your glucose
- 00:24:06levels you reduce glycation it's just
- 00:24:08like a A to B it's very simple so if I
- 00:24:11want to Stave off wrinkles then I should
- 00:24:14keep my glucose levels down yes and you
- 00:24:16should also avoid smoking you know wear
- 00:24:18sunscreen Etc but in terms of your diet
- 00:24:20what you want to focus on is focus on
- 00:24:22reducing glucose spikes yeah absolutely
- 00:24:24what about things like acne and skin
- 00:24:26conditions so those are more
- 00:24:28inflammatory based diseases so eczema
- 00:24:31psoriasis acne rosacea those are
- 00:24:35expressions of inflammation going on
- 00:24:38within your body and I like to think of
- 00:24:39the skin as a mirror to what's going on
- 00:24:42within and so inflamation can happen to
- 00:24:45loads of different factors but one of
- 00:24:47the factors is glucose spikes so glucose
- 00:24:49spikes hurt our mitochondria that
- 00:24:51creates inflammation then glucose spikes
- 00:24:54lead to glycation which also leads to
- 00:24:56inflammation and Insulin release and a
- 00:24:58lot of insulin also increases
- 00:25:00inflammation so with every glucose Spike
- 00:25:02you're increasing inflammation within
- 00:25:04your body and if you're susceptible to
- 00:25:06any of these skin conditions you can
- 00:25:07have fups or increase their intensity
- 00:25:09very simply and does it also have an
- 00:25:12impact on my hormonal balance I am a lot
- 00:25:15of my friends I'm in that age range now
- 00:25:17where a lot of my friends are trying to
- 00:25:18have children yeah and there's so much
- 00:25:21talk around things like polycystic ovary
- 00:25:23syndrome and fertility and you know
- 00:25:27infertility in men with their sperm and
- 00:25:29all these kinds of things is there a
- 00:25:30link between glucose and hormones and
- 00:25:34fertility yes so we have studies that
- 00:25:36show that the more insulin resistant you
- 00:25:38are so insulin resistance is a
- 00:25:40consequence of just a lot of insulin in
- 00:25:42the body the more likely you are to be
- 00:25:43infertile and then we also know that
- 00:25:47PCOS so polycystic ovarian syndrome
- 00:25:49which is one of the leading causes of
- 00:25:51infertility in women we know that 60% of
- 00:25:53PCOS cases also are people who have
- 00:25:57insulin resistance there's a link there
- 00:26:00insulin resistance you're more likely to
- 00:26:02have PCOS and we also know that when
- 00:26:04there's a lot of insulin in a female
- 00:26:06body it tells your ovaries to produce
- 00:26:09more testosterone testosterone is the
- 00:26:12male sex hormone and if you have too
- 00:26:14much male sex hormone in the body that
- 00:26:17causes issues it can cause acne it can
- 00:26:19cause balding or hair growth on the face
- 00:26:21and it can stop your period now often
- 00:26:24when somebody has PCOS they're given the
- 00:26:26birth control pill
- 00:26:28which kind of makes sense on the surface
- 00:26:30but really doesn't solve anything what
- 00:26:32happens when you take the birth control
- 00:26:33pill is that you're just ingesting
- 00:26:35female hormones that's what the pill is
- 00:26:37it's female hormones so if you have high
- 00:26:39testosterone all of a sudden you're
- 00:26:41ingesting female hormones so the balance
- 00:26:44kind of comes back to an okay situation
- 00:26:46your symptoms of excess testosterone go
- 00:26:50away but as soon as you stop the pill
- 00:26:53the high testosterone is still there so
- 00:26:55a lot of people stop the pill trying to
- 00:26:57have a baby and they're like oh
- 00:26:58I don't have my period I have PCOS what
- 00:27:01do I do so one recommendation I have is
- 00:27:04if you have PCOS look at your glucose
- 00:27:06bikes first it's not the only reason
- 00:27:08this can happen but very often when you
- 00:27:10fix your glucose and insulin levels the
- 00:27:12symptoms of PCOS go away I was saw
- 00:27:15something on Twitter a couple of weeks
- 00:27:16ago that was trying to make the case
- 00:27:19that glucose and Insulin responses are
- 00:27:23the reason for PCOS yeah some people
- 00:27:26believe that totally you know it's a
- 00:27:29very politically charged topic some
- 00:27:31people believe you have PCOS it's
- 00:27:34genetic you can't do anything about it
- 00:27:35other people believe no no it's a
- 00:27:37metabolic disease it's a cluster of
- 00:27:39symptoms that come from high insulin I'm
- 00:27:40in that camp but you know there are some
- 00:27:43cases where somebody has PCOS and
- 00:27:45doesn't have high insulin levels so what
- 00:27:47category do they go into the thing with
- 00:27:49PCOS Stephen is that it's not a real
- 00:27:51Condition it's like a cluster of
- 00:27:53symptoms so some people could have PCOS
- 00:27:55and have cystic ovaries and balding
- 00:27:57somebody else could have PCOS and have
- 00:27:59you know missed periods and hair growth
- 00:28:02on their chin so it can take different
- 00:28:04forms so I think we're starting to
- 00:28:06understand there there variations of
- 00:28:08PCOS and some are in the insulin
- 00:28:10resistant category have you seen a woman
- 00:28:13res reverse have PCOS symptoms tons in
- 00:28:16my second book I ran a study three
- 00:28:19females who were in the program doing my
- 00:28:21hacks for just a month got their period
- 00:28:24back and were able to get pregnant in
- 00:28:26that month just with my hacks I see PCOS
- 00:28:29reversal all the
- 00:28:31time so these hacks that you you say
- 00:28:34those three women use to help reverse
- 00:28:36their their PCOS
- 00:28:38symptoms what are the hacks oh the hacks
- 00:28:42what are the ones that they did so the
- 00:28:43ones they did were Savory
- 00:28:46breakfast vinegar once a day veggie
- 00:28:50starters and moving after eating and
- 00:28:53these are four hacks that are the four
- 00:28:56most important ones of my 10 hacks that
- 00:28:59I've put together in the four-week
- 00:29:00method that second
- 00:29:02book and if you do these hacks you don't
- 00:29:06actually have to change anything else
- 00:29:07that you're eating you don't have to cut
- 00:29:08out anything you just add these in I
- 00:29:11like to see them like um little fairy
- 00:29:13godmothers that you have in your pocket
- 00:29:15and you just put throughout your day
- 00:29:16like this and you're able to reduce your
- 00:29:17glucose spikes while still eating what
- 00:29:19you love in a very low efforts kind of
- 00:29:21way and I believe these hacks should be
- 00:29:23seen like you would
- 00:29:25see brush your teeth wear sunscreen
- 00:29:28drink enough water have a Savory
- 00:29:30breakfast move after eating have a
- 00:29:32Savory breakfast so are you saying
- 00:29:34people shouldn't be eating sugar for
- 00:29:35breakfast correct so the concept of a
- 00:29:37savory breakfast comes from the simple
- 00:29:40realization that if you have a breakfast
- 00:29:43that creates a big glucose Spike you're
- 00:29:45affecting your body in many bad ways
- 00:29:48first of all you're leading to your
- 00:29:50brain not functioning too well during
- 00:29:52that day it's leading to brain fog it
- 00:29:54can make you a bit confused second it
- 00:29:56makes you tired it increases Cravings
- 00:29:58throughout the day and it also
- 00:30:00deregulates your glucose levels for the
- 00:30:02rest of the day your breakfast is very
- 00:30:05powerful if you have a glucose bike at
- 00:30:07breakfast your whole day is a glucose
- 00:30:09roller coaster so what you want to do
- 00:30:11Stephen is always have a Savory
- 00:30:13breakfast that keeps your glucose level
- 00:30:15steady a Savory breakfast is what it's
- 00:30:17based around
- 00:30:18protein eggs uh fish meat tofu nuts
- 00:30:23Dairy protein powder dinner leftovers
- 00:30:25okay protein it's really important to
- 00:30:27have protein in the morning then you add
- 00:30:29some healthy fats olive oil butter
- 00:30:31avocado and then if you want for taste
- 00:30:34you can add a bit of starch like a piece
- 00:30:37of bread for example or some potatoes
- 00:30:39importantly a Savory breakfast contains
- 00:30:42nothing sweet no cereal no muffins no
- 00:30:44orange juice no granola no fruit puree
- 00:30:48none of that it's really key sugar in my
- 00:30:51coffee no no no no if you want sugar
- 00:30:54have it as dessert after a meal after
- 00:30:57lunch or after after dinner because
- 00:30:59after your lunch and after your dinner
- 00:31:00you have lots of food already in the
- 00:31:02digestive system so any sugar you put in
- 00:31:05afterwards is going to impact your
- 00:31:06glucose levels less you said that if I
- 00:31:09have something sweet for my breakfast
- 00:31:11I'm then going to be on a glucose roller
- 00:31:12coaster yeah why because glucose Spike
- 00:31:17then insulin comes out and your glucose
- 00:31:19drop then your glucose are low here you
- 00:31:23get really hungry you have a lot of
- 00:31:24cravings when our glucose levels are
- 00:31:26dropping scientists have shown it
- 00:31:28increases the activity of the craving
- 00:31:30Center in our brain so it goes like
- 00:31:32Stephen eat some sugar and you can't
- 00:31:35control that so what you do you reach
- 00:31:37for more sugar bam another glucose Spike
- 00:31:40and then you just continue your whole
- 00:31:42day like that so you sort of put
- 00:31:44yourself into a corner if you start your
- 00:31:46day with a spike and it's really
- 00:31:47difficult to get off that roller coaster
- 00:31:50does that roller coaster last across
- 00:31:52days good question generally during the
- 00:31:55night is sort of resets and my glucose
- 00:31:58test I saw that when I go to sleep it
- 00:31:59kind of flattens out kind of goes quite
- 00:32:01low at night time
- 00:32:03however I've got this unscientific
- 00:32:06observation where if I start if I had a
- 00:32:09carrot cake now um there's a high
- 00:32:11probability that I'd probably want to
- 00:32:13have a carrot cake by dinner time
- 00:32:14tonight as well and then when I wake up
- 00:32:16the next day I probably I'm going to be
- 00:32:19more likely to go for the carrot cake
- 00:32:20again and I if I if I zoomed out on my
- 00:32:22life say the whole 12 months of a year
- 00:32:25there will be maybe like this little
- 00:32:28week or two in clusters where maybe
- 00:32:31there's a couple of months in between
- 00:32:32and then there's this two we [ __ ]
- 00:32:33Splurge again where I find it really
- 00:32:36hard not to reach for something across
- 00:32:38multiple days now I'm not sure if this
- 00:32:40is in my head I think there's a few
- 00:32:41things going on one The Taste is really
- 00:32:43addictive so you get addicted to getting
- 00:32:45that taste and getting the dopamine
- 00:32:47don't forget there's the dopamine rush
- 00:32:48in your brain second with every glucose
- 00:32:50Spike you're actually deregulating your
- 00:32:52hunger hormones so you get you have more
- 00:32:54Cravings you're hungrier and yes this
- 00:32:56can totally last for a few days and I
- 00:32:58think thirdly if you have the carrot
- 00:32:59cake at home for a few days maybe you're
- 00:33:01just more likely to reach for it because
- 00:33:02it's there you know but I feel I feel
- 00:33:04similarly to you I have these phases
- 00:33:07especially if I'm really busy and I
- 00:33:08can't do all the hacks all the time
- 00:33:10where I'm eating a bunch of sugar and
- 00:33:12then it lasts until I say okay stop back
- 00:33:14on the hacks and I do the hacks for two
- 00:33:16days and then I'm good again that's the
- 00:33:17same with me but also I find that if I
- 00:33:19do a really big workout yeah for me it
- 00:33:22helps to break that cycle so if I this
- 00:33:24weekend I did a re I was I think I was
- 00:33:26in that cycle of like I wasn't reaching
- 00:33:28for sugar as in like something sweet I
- 00:33:30was reaching for like I was having a lot
- 00:33:32of like toast with my breakfast or I was
- 00:33:33having like carbs and then I did a
- 00:33:36really big workout and the last thing I
- 00:33:37wanted was anything with carbs in or
- 00:33:39glucose I think it's also in the brain
- 00:33:41you know cuz you're rebalancing those
- 00:33:43hormones that dopamine you're getting
- 00:33:45endorphins from the workout so you're
- 00:33:47not seeking all that pleasure from just
- 00:33:49sugar okay I think if you're in a cycle
- 00:33:51where all you're just getting dopamine
- 00:33:52from sugar it just becomes addictive and
- 00:33:54you have to do stuff in your life that
- 00:33:55allows you to feel good in your brain
- 00:33:57without having that sugar so maybe I got
- 00:33:59the dopamine from the workout instead
- 00:34:01totally and so I kind of shifted yeah
- 00:34:04the source of dopamine so that was the
- 00:34:06first hack which is Theory breakfast
- 00:34:08Super Key by the way if you just do one
- 00:34:10hack do this one it is a complete
- 00:34:13GameChanger and a Savory breakfast
- 00:34:15should keep you satiated for 4 hours
- 00:34:18which is a long time most people get
- 00:34:20hungry again 2 hours after they have
- 00:34:22breakfast so make sure you're having
- 00:34:24enough protein in your breakfast to stay
- 00:34:26full for four hours
- 00:34:28okay on that what if I fast totally fine
- 00:34:31make sure the first meal of your day is
- 00:34:33also Savory so it can be at 8 a.m. it
- 00:34:35can be at 4 P.M I do not care as long as
- 00:34:38the first thing that you eat is
- 00:34:39something Savory because when you're
- 00:34:41fasted your digestive system is super
- 00:34:43empty and sensitive so whatever you give
- 00:34:46it whether it's in the morning after
- 00:34:47just sleeping or whether it's after a
- 00:34:48two week fast is going to go really
- 00:34:50quickly into your bloodstream so you
- 00:34:52have to be cautious and make sure you're
- 00:34:54not giving your body glucose otherwise
- 00:34:57big [ __ ] do you think fasting is good
- 00:35:00for you inent
- 00:35:02fasting I think it's nuanced I think
- 00:35:05what I've seen is that in men it just
- 00:35:07works way better in females it can kind
- 00:35:10of mess up your hormones you have to be
- 00:35:12a bit um judicious about when you fast
- 00:35:15and we also have to remember guys
- 00:35:17fasting is a stressor on the body it is
- 00:35:20a good stressor but it is a stressor so
- 00:35:23if you have an intense job kids to take
- 00:35:26care of you drink coffee you have you
- 00:35:29know three times a week you do hit
- 00:35:31cardio then you do a sauna then you do a
- 00:35:33cul lunch then you fast your body is
- 00:35:35going to freak the [ __ ] out you have to
- 00:35:36like dose these stressors in a way that
- 00:35:39is going to be manageable for your body
- 00:35:41I see lots of women who do all those
- 00:35:43things I just mentioned and then they're
- 00:35:45like and I don't have my perod and I
- 00:35:46don't understand I don't feel good I'm
- 00:35:47like your body is freaking out like
- 00:35:50relax you can't be putting all these
- 00:35:52stressors on yourself all the time so I
- 00:35:55fast when I'm on vacation and what kind
- 00:35:57of fasting do you do I like we'll skip a
- 00:35:59meal we'll skip dinner we'll skip
- 00:36:01breakfast and it just helps your body
- 00:36:03clean up its dead cells and it's really
- 00:36:05helpful but we have to remember that
- 00:36:08fasting is a stressor it has great
- 00:36:10benefits but you don't have to fast in
- 00:36:13order to be healthy it's very important
- 00:36:15to also look at what you're eating
- 00:36:17because if you're fasting 16 hours a day
- 00:36:19and then you're just eating junk food
- 00:36:21it's not going to be helpful to your
- 00:36:22body we have to do both in combination
- 00:36:24do you fast naturally yeah so I haven't
- 00:36:28eaten today what time are we we 1:00 um
- 00:36:31and I won't eat until you've had a
- 00:36:33coffee I've had a coffee this morning
- 00:36:36yeah but I won't eat until what 400 p.m.
- 00:36:395:00 p.m. which will be probably you
- 00:36:40know after I get back to the office and
- 00:36:42stuff like that you feel good I feel
- 00:36:43fine so that's the thing right my
- 00:36:45recommendation is if you feel great Fab
- 00:36:48if you feel stressed out if you feel
- 00:36:49light-headed if it feels hard yeah then
- 00:36:51don't do it your body can't handle it
- 00:36:53just doesn't cross my mind to eat I
- 00:36:54don't know how people eat it's amazing
- 00:36:56yeah then go for it live your life Man
- 00:36:58live your life Stephen what about
- 00:36:59calorie restriction do you think much
- 00:37:01about that I mean it works right if you
- 00:37:03if few calories you're going to lose
- 00:37:05weight but this is one of my favorite
- 00:37:08stories do you know how calories were
- 00:37:11invented maybe okay they like put it in
- 00:37:13a box and burnt it they put yes I I told
- 00:37:16you that yes so back in the day to
- 00:37:18measure calories what do you want to
- 00:37:20measure the calorie of tell me something
- 00:37:21some my food car cake
- 00:37:24okay okay so if we were back in the day
- 00:37:26like 100 years ago and we wanted to
- 00:37:28measure the calories in your carrot cake
- 00:37:29here's what we would do we would take
- 00:37:31the carrot cake put it in a box then put
- 00:37:33this box in an aquarium filled with
- 00:37:36water so you have the aquarium and then
- 00:37:39inside you have the box with the carrot
- 00:37:40cake then we would light the carrot cake
- 00:37:43on fire inside the small box and measure
- 00:37:47by how many degrees the water in the
- 00:37:49aquarium increased in temperature so
- 00:37:52we're just measuring the heat that is
- 00:37:56created when we burn the carrot cake
- 00:37:58that is how we measure calories by how
- 00:38:01much heat is generated when you burn a
- 00:38:03food so if you were to put in that same
- 00:38:05box I don't know three avocados and you
- 00:38:07burnt them you might get the same
- 00:38:10temperature increase in the water so you
- 00:38:11might say oh this carrot cake and these
- 00:38:12three avocados have the same number of
- 00:38:14calories but the thing is with the
- 00:38:16calorie thing it's not actually telling
- 00:38:18you what's in the food it's just
- 00:38:20measuring energy that dissipated when
- 00:38:22you burnt it it's not telling you the
- 00:38:25carrot cake is going to lead to a big
- 00:38:26glucose Spike going to make you inflamed
- 00:38:28age faster release insulin whereas the
- 00:38:31three avocados will keep you steady and
- 00:38:32feeling better so two people can be
- 00:38:35eating 2,000 calories diets one person
- 00:38:38can be eating in a way that keeps their
- 00:38:39glucose nice and steady they feel good
- 00:38:42good energy F Cravings clear brain not
- 00:38:45super hungry all the time the other
- 00:38:47person can be eating just glucose
- 00:38:49spiking food and they're having a
- 00:38:50terrible time they're hungry constantly
- 00:38:52they have cravings brain fog insulin
- 00:38:54release so calories are interesting but
- 00:38:57they're not not everything we need to
- 00:38:58teach people about the molecules in
- 00:38:59their food I find that to be a much
- 00:39:01easier way to try to eat a bit less if
- 00:39:04you're trying to lose some fat is to
- 00:39:06just focus on your glucose levels
- 00:39:07because naturally your hunger hormones
- 00:39:09will rebalance you'll have few cravings
- 00:39:11and it's much easier to eat less is
- 00:39:14there a story that you've been sent or a
- 00:39:16case study from someone that's followed
- 00:39:17your work that's stuck with you someone
- 00:39:20that's understood their glucose and had
- 00:39:21a big shift in their life I imagine
- 00:39:23there's thousands but yeah there's many
- 00:39:26many I think for there's two things for
- 00:39:28me there's the the pregnancy stories
- 00:39:30because I think that's so touching
- 00:39:31because I've had many friends go through
- 00:39:33difficult fertility Journeys and to hear
- 00:39:36people who were about to embark on
- 00:39:38really intense fertility treatments and
- 00:39:39just tried this and then got pregnant I
- 00:39:41think that's really cool and then second
- 00:39:43I think it's the people
- 00:39:45whom there was this one guy he's had
- 00:39:47diabetes his whole life he's like in his
- 00:39:4950s um on lots of medication and just
- 00:39:53thought he would lose a leg and lose his
- 00:39:55vision that's what happens when you have
- 00:39:56type two for a very long time
- 00:39:58and the thing is his doctors had never
- 00:39:59explained to him why he had diabetes
- 00:40:01they had just told him you know take
- 00:40:02this pill and I take this insulin and he
- 00:40:05read my book and he understood why he
- 00:40:07got diabetes in the first place and he
- 00:40:10did the hacks he was able to reverse his
- 00:40:12type two diabetes in one year all his
- 00:40:15doctors were like how did you do it you
- 00:40:16know doctors don't often have this kind
- 00:40:18of information and then he sent me a
- 00:40:20long message saying now I'll be able to
- 00:40:22see my grandkid wedding and I really
- 00:40:23thank you for that it's so cute you know
- 00:40:27we're all we're all stuck in this
- 00:40:29vicious cycle of having this toxic food
- 00:40:32around us that's making us sick but not
- 00:40:34understanding how to get out of it and
- 00:40:36everybody wants to be healthy that man
- 00:40:39he was eating stuff that he thought
- 00:40:41would be good for him he was eating like
- 00:40:43the low calorie rice cakes and the fruit
- 00:40:46smoothies and the lowfat yogurts and all
- 00:40:48these things trying to be healthier but
- 00:40:51if you don't have the right information
- 00:40:52you can't actually make a change what
- 00:40:55would you say to parents it's it's
- 00:40:57really interesting cuz I I've had the
- 00:40:59experience of watching a lot of early
- 00:41:01parents over the last couple of months
- 00:41:02and um they care so much about their
- 00:41:06kids just eating it something that often
- 00:41:08they'll give them something that is high
- 00:41:10in glucose does it matter you know
- 00:41:13because sometimes people look at kids
- 00:41:14and go well they're a kid they they'll
- 00:41:16kind of it won't have an impact on them
- 00:41:18they'll kind of grow out of it yeah well
- 00:41:20we'll make sure that they eat healthy
- 00:41:21later we just need to make sure they eat
- 00:41:22something now listen we used to think
- 00:41:25type two diabetes was a disease is
- 00:41:27reserved for adults and now 5-year-olds
- 00:41:29get it it's very important to help your
- 00:41:31kids eat well so that they set up their
- 00:41:33body in a healthy way one thing that I
- 00:41:35hear is yeah Jesse I know I should be
- 00:41:37giving my kids eggs in the morning but
- 00:41:40they just keep begging for the cereal
- 00:41:41and I just I can't say no you know they
- 00:41:43they won't they won't let go I have to
- 00:41:45give it to them and I say what if they
- 00:41:47were begging you for
- 00:41:49cigarettes would you give them the
- 00:41:51cigarettes like you don't actually have
- 00:41:53to give your kids this food it's hard
- 00:41:56for for sure but if it's a priority for
- 00:41:59you you can totally do it absolutely and
- 00:42:01I think it's important to set an example
- 00:42:04actually because if you're having cereal
- 00:42:06and orange juice it's going to be really
- 00:42:07hard for your kids to take you seriously
- 00:42:09like come on dad like you know shut up
- 00:42:12what you think of giving kids orange
- 00:42:13juice oh my God it's terrible it's the
- 00:42:15worst it's it's it's just terrible it's
- 00:42:17big rush of sugar can affect it can
- 00:42:20affect Behavior you know tantrums and
- 00:42:23the sugar cravings and the sugar lows I
- 00:42:26mean no it's terrible it breaks my heart
- 00:42:28I'm like wow those little bodies are not
- 00:42:31happy right now you know there's so many
- 00:42:33parents that are listening right now
- 00:42:35like you don't [ __ ] get it you too
- 00:42:38childless better totally and that's why
- 00:42:40Stephen you know when I have kids I
- 00:42:42totally want to write a book about that
- 00:42:43because I think there's lots of stuff we
- 00:42:44can teach a parents about how to feed
- 00:42:47their kids it's too easy for me to say
- 00:42:49this stuff I don't have kids I don't
- 00:42:50know how it is but I can tell you one
- 00:42:51thing there will be no orange juice in
- 00:42:53my house no orange juice like my mom my
- 00:42:57mom was addicted to diet coke when she
- 00:42:58was younger so we never had soda in our
- 00:43:00house never and I hate I hate soda now I
- 00:43:03would never be able to drink any of that
- 00:43:05stuff because it was never I never
- 00:43:06learned to like it so don't be scared
- 00:43:09that your kid is going to binge if you
- 00:43:11restrict all the sugary stuff I think
- 00:43:12it's the opposite I think if you don't
- 00:43:13give them the Habit they just won't have
- 00:43:15the habit I do agree we we um we didn't
- 00:43:17have many sweet things or fizzy drinks
- 00:43:20or anything in in the house and I think
- 00:43:22as a kid I was resentful because you
- 00:43:24you'd go to school and you'd see those
- 00:43:25things you you'd lean towards them and
- 00:43:27you'd love them at school but frankly as
- 00:43:29I've grown older I'm completely cool
- 00:43:30with just drinking water all the time
- 00:43:33that's part partly because that's what
- 00:43:34we had in the house so my relationship
- 00:43:36with water is pretty strong I feel you
- 00:43:38but you know one thing that parents do
- 00:43:39tell me is that when they do their
- 00:43:40glucose hacks and they manage their
- 00:43:42glucose levels they're able to be more
- 00:43:43Zen around their kids and sort of you
- 00:43:46know stay a bit more um centered when
- 00:43:49their kids are freaking out or asking
- 00:43:50about something a lot their their mood
- 00:43:52is steadier so they can actually make
- 00:43:53better choices for the whole family and
- 00:43:55they have a bit more stamina and uh then
- 00:43:57their kids do the hacks and their kids
- 00:44:01get calmer and then the family is just
- 00:44:02having a better time generally but it
- 00:44:05can really
- 00:44:06impact even a marriage this a great
- 00:44:08study I have to tell you about that was
- 00:44:10looking at married couples so they
- 00:44:12recruited 300 married couples and bless
- 00:44:15these scientists they're just insane so
- 00:44:17they recruited 300 married couples they
- 00:44:20gave each person in the marriage a
- 00:44:22voodoo doll representing their spouse so
- 00:44:26if you're in a marriage you have a
- 00:44:27voodoo doll representing your husband or
- 00:44:29your wife scientists then asked the
- 00:44:32people to put a pin in the voodo doll
- 00:44:36representing their spouse every time
- 00:44:38their spouse annoyed them for six weeks
- 00:44:42at the end of the study they took all
- 00:44:43the voodoo dolls counted the pins they
- 00:44:45also measured the participants glucose
- 00:44:48levels what they found Stephen is that
- 00:44:51those who had more variable glucose
- 00:44:54levels specifically those who had more
- 00:44:56low glucose level events which happens
- 00:44:58after spikes had put more pins in the
- 00:45:02voodoo doll representing their spouse so
- 00:45:05their glucose levels seem to be linked
- 00:45:07to how irritated they were with their
- 00:45:09partner and then the scientists
- 00:45:10speculated that this had to do with a
- 00:45:13neurotransmitter called tyrosine and the
- 00:45:15more glucose roller coaster you have
- 00:45:17going on the lower your tyrosine levels
- 00:45:19and tyrosine balances our mood so the
- 00:45:22food you eat can impact your marriage
- 00:45:25can impact how you show up
- 00:45:27with others can impact how you feel
- 00:45:30about other people's behavior it goes
- 00:45:32really deep it's not just about diabetes
- 00:45:34it it impacts who you are as a person
- 00:45:36your personality so if I stop eating
- 00:45:38sugar it will save my marriage I mean
- 00:45:41you said
- 00:45:43it it's not it's really interesting I
- 00:45:45was thinking as you were talking as well
- 00:45:46about how glucose is linked to our sort
- 00:45:51of discipline more broadly you know you
- 00:45:53were talking earlier about parents and
- 00:45:55them being able to be more sort of
- 00:45:56disciplined and strict with and calm
- 00:46:00when they themselves get their glucose
- 00:46:02under control but you think about all of
- 00:46:03our lives our lives are shaped by the
- 00:46:04habits that we perform consistently and
- 00:46:06for us to have good um habits that are
- 00:46:10prod conducive with our health our
- 00:46:12happiness our success then we need to be
- 00:46:15focused and disciplined and be able to
- 00:46:17reach for the right things um whether
- 00:46:19it's a dumbbell or whether it's our
- 00:46:21laptop yeah so like do do you ever think
- 00:46:23much about the role that glucose plays
- 00:46:25with our sort of discipline to be who we
- 00:46:27want to be to sh up how we want to sh up
- 00:46:28completely because so many people are
- 00:46:30stuck in a cycle of being a victim to
- 00:46:33their Cravings being a victim to their
- 00:46:34fatigue and they can't show up as the
- 00:46:36person they want to be and if you switch
- 00:46:39your diet and use these hacks you can
- 00:46:42actually be more connected to the
- 00:46:44version of yourself that you want to be
- 00:46:45and even just a simple thing like a
- 00:46:47Savory breakfast it can deeply change
- 00:46:49how you show up throughout your day
- 00:46:52instead of being exhausted at 11:00 a.m.
- 00:46:55needing four coffees feeling this
- 00:46:56lethargic in your work meeting then at 3
- 00:46:59p.m. thinking oh I really want to have a
- 00:47:00nap I would have a nap on the floor
- 00:47:02right here if I could looking for sugar
- 00:47:03all the time you actually have a clearer
- 00:47:05brain like we know glucose spikes are
- 00:47:07linked to even just brain fog and brain
- 00:47:09fog is a debilitating symptom to have
- 00:47:12you can't show up as the person you want
- 00:47:14to be I would never be able to do the
- 00:47:16work that I do if I didn't have my
- 00:47:17glucose under control and I learned that
- 00:47:19from the very beginning that's why I got
- 00:47:21into this work in the first place but
- 00:47:23100% agree with you yeah so the first
- 00:47:25hack we talked about was the Savory
- 00:47:27breakfast there was the second one you
- 00:47:29talked about vinegar which we talked
- 00:47:30about last time which I remember I was
- 00:47:31really repulsed by but you count this as
- 00:47:33one of your most important hacks is to
- 00:47:36eat vinegar every day it's drink one
- 00:47:38tablespoon of vinegar in a big glass of
- 00:47:40water before your biggest meal of the
- 00:47:42day and the reason it's important
- 00:47:43Stephen is because it's easy and I'm all
- 00:47:45about easy hacks big bang for your bck
- 00:47:48so vinegar contains acetic acid which
- 00:47:51interacts with your digestive enzymes
- 00:47:53and cuts the glucose Spike of your meal
- 00:47:55by up to 30% with no effort so if you
- 00:47:58want a super low effort albeit not very
- 00:48:01delicious super low effort hack to try
- 00:48:03do that and see how you feel with a
- 00:48:06smaller Spike and a smaller crash few
- 00:48:08Cravings less fatigue what kind of
- 00:48:10vinegar any kind of vinegar it can be
- 00:48:12the vinegar you have at home literally
- 00:48:14tonight just grab the white vinegar in
- 00:48:16your kitchen and not the cleaning
- 00:48:17vinegar if it's next to the toilet paper
- 00:48:19it's not the right vinegar you want the
- 00:48:20kitchen vinegar one tablespoon in a big
- 00:48:23glass of water dilute it drink it 10
- 00:48:25minutes before having your dinner see
- 00:48:26how you feel what's what role is the
- 00:48:28water playing in this just dilution so
- 00:48:30that it doesn't hurt your teeth because
- 00:48:32your dentist won't be very happy if you
- 00:48:34take a shot of vinegar because it can
- 00:48:35hurt your teeth's enamel okay so that's
- 00:48:38hack number two and that's really to
- 00:48:39sort of line my stomach to so no that's
- 00:48:42to interact with your digestive enzymes
- 00:48:44the line stomach is the third hack which
- 00:48:46is Veggie starters so all around the
- 00:48:49world if you look at different cultures
- 00:48:51you see this habit this tradition of
- 00:48:53starting your meal with veggies in Italy
- 00:48:56aunti
- 00:48:57in France crud raw vegetables at the end
- 00:49:00of your at the beginning of your meal in
- 00:49:02the Middle East you start your meals
- 00:49:04with herbs by the bunch right why are we
- 00:49:07doing this veggies first thing well
- 00:49:09recently scientists have discovered why
- 00:49:11it's so powerful it's because veggies
- 00:49:13contain fiber we love fiber she's the
- 00:49:16best when you have fiber at the
- 00:49:18beginning of a meal what it does is that
- 00:49:20it coats your intestine it makes this
- 00:49:22sort of protective barrier this
- 00:49:24protective mesh kind of goo fibrous mesh
- 00:49:28and so any glucose you eat afterwards
- 00:49:31will not be able to go through your
- 00:49:33intestine into your bloodstream so
- 00:49:35quickly so it slows down the arrival of
- 00:49:38glucose into your blood and it slows
- 00:49:40down that Spike you can make the
- 00:49:42experiment if you're wearing a monitor
- 00:49:44just have a a small plate of you know
- 00:49:47carrots or spinach or broccoli or cherry
- 00:49:49tomatoes or whatever veggie you like
- 00:49:51before a meal and see how much smaller
- 00:49:53your glucose spike is you stay Fuller
- 00:49:55for longer have few crat and you're
- 00:49:57helping your body from within too and
- 00:49:59the fourth one you mentioned was moving
- 00:50:01after after eating yeah so after eating
- 00:50:05use your body and your muscles for 10
- 00:50:07minutes you can clean your apartment go
- 00:50:10for a walk with your dog dance to a few
- 00:50:12songs if you're at the office you can do
- 00:50:15calf raises under your desk like this so
- 00:50:17you just sort of push up onto the balls
- 00:50:18of your feet up and down for 10 minutes
- 00:50:20nobody will see and your calves contain
- 00:50:23a muscle called the Solus muscle which
- 00:50:25is really good at soaking up glucose but
- 00:50:27it's what we were talking about earlier
- 00:50:28Stephen your muscles are really
- 00:50:31effective glucose dumps and the more you
- 00:50:33use them to contract the more they're
- 00:50:34going to soak up glucose from your
- 00:50:36bloodstream to use for energy so that's
- 00:50:39the four hacks Savory breakfast vinegar
- 00:50:42once a day veggie starter once a day you
- 00:50:44can also combine those two and do like a
- 00:50:46vinegar dressing on a veggie starter and
- 00:50:49then moving after eating and then when
- 00:50:51you want to get Pro you go to all my
- 00:50:52other hacks people talk about being in a
- 00:50:54food comr after they've eaten yeah which
- 00:50:56which is I mean the antithesis of what
- 00:50:58you're you're saying absolutely food
- 00:51:00coma is like a combination of brain fog
- 00:51:02and fatigue right and what's going on
- 00:51:04there well I think there's a lot of
- 00:51:06things going on but one study that's
- 00:51:07really interesting shows us that in rats
- 00:51:10when you create lots of big glucose
- 00:51:12spikes and when you monitor the activity
- 00:51:15of their neurons in the rats scientists
- 00:51:17noticed that the more glucose spikes
- 00:51:19they had the slower the speed of the
- 00:51:23signal between their neurons so their
- 00:51:25brain was literally slowing down the
- 00:51:28information was going more slowly
- 00:51:31throughout the brain and they're the
- 00:51:32they theorized that in humans this could
- 00:51:34lead to brain fog so you have glucose
- 00:51:36spikes linked to brain fog and your
- 00:51:39mitochondria becoming exhausted from Big
- 00:51:41glucose spikes potentially making you
- 00:51:43really tired you know 90 minutes after
- 00:51:45eating with the hack food coma reduced
- 00:51:49significantly so you can actually do
- 00:51:50stuff after eating instead of just being
- 00:51:53lying down and not being able to get up
- 00:51:55and you took these hacks and you did an
- 00:51:57experiment right on page seven of your
- 00:52:00book the glucose goddess
- 00:52:03method you talk about this 2,700 person
- 00:52:07pilot experiment that you did in 2019
- 00:52:10yeah which of the hacks did you use for
- 00:52:13this experiment and what did you find so
- 00:52:15it was these four hacks so it was a
- 00:52:16four-week experiment week one you start
- 00:52:19your Savory breakfast every day you do
- 00:52:21that for the four weeks week two you add
- 00:52:24in vinegar once a day you continue for
- 00:52:26for the rest of the three weeks week
- 00:52:28three you add veggie starters and week
- 00:52:30four you add moving after eating you
- 00:52:33don't have to change anything else about
- 00:52:34what you're eating I'm not cutting out
- 00:52:36sugar I'm not telling you to not drink
- 00:52:38alcohol I'm not telling you to not drink
- 00:52:39pasta I'm just asking you to add these
- 00:52:42for hacks in and see what happens and
- 00:52:45these people were from 110 countries
- 00:52:47yeah I recruited I recruited them online
- 00:52:49on through Instagram between the ages of
- 00:52:5120 and 70 years old mhm and what
- 00:52:55happened listen the results were really
- 00:52:57stunning so 90% of people reduced their
- 00:52:59Cravings 90% of people had more energy
- 00:53:02you had really significant impacts on
- 00:53:04sleep on hormones on skin on mood on
- 00:53:08Diabetes I mean of course this is not a
- 00:53:11you know Placebo controlled randomized
- 00:53:13trial it's just an experiment I didn't
- 00:53:15have a control group but these numbers
- 00:53:17are pretty remarkable and that's what I
- 00:53:19see when I meet people when I see the
- 00:53:21testimonials from my readers so just
- 00:53:23very quick impact because glucose spikes
- 00:53:26imp act all parts of our system physical
- 00:53:29and mental and when you balance them
- 00:53:31Stephen you're creating a much better
- 00:53:33foundation for your body and your mind
- 00:53:36to be healthy and these are
- 00:53:37self-reported symptoms right totally
- 00:53:39yeah so we did a survey at the end of
- 00:53:41every of the four weeks and uh just
- 00:53:43measured the results and when you say
- 00:53:46there's no control group that means that
- 00:53:48there wasn't another group who weren't
- 00:53:50who were doing like a different kind of
- 00:53:52intervention or Placebo no okay so it
- 00:53:54was just 3,000 people doing the hacks
- 00:53:57and I was just asking them questions uh
- 00:53:59at the end and it says here 40% roughly
- 00:54:0240% of people who wanted to lose weight
- 00:54:03did in fact lose weight in those four
- 00:54:05weeks yeah with no calorie restriction
- 00:54:07no request to eat less and the reason
- 00:54:11this is interesting is that even though
- 00:54:13weight loss is not the primary objective
- 00:54:15of balancing your glucose levels what
- 00:54:17happens when you reduce your spikes is
- 00:54:19that you reduce Cravings because you're
- 00:54:21not activating that craving Center
- 00:54:23anymore you reduce hunger you have more
- 00:54:25energy to potentially move more and you
- 00:54:28lower your insulin levels now this is
- 00:54:30very important because when there's
- 00:54:32insulin present in your body you cannot
- 00:54:34burn fat insulin is storing fat and
- 00:54:38making more fat and when you lower
- 00:54:40insulin you can actually burn some of
- 00:54:42the fat that you stored and there's
- 00:54:44going to be people screaming because
- 00:54:45they want to know the other sort of six
- 00:54:47this 10 right yeah I can go through all
- 00:54:49of them if you want sit the other six AR
- 00:54:51of course of course of course so another
- 00:54:54hack is eating your food in the right
- 00:54:56now this is kind of similar to the
- 00:54:58veggie starter it's just a bit more
- 00:55:00complicated and it's really where the
- 00:55:02science it's really what the science
- 00:55:03shows us the science shows us that if
- 00:55:06you eat a meal in the right order
- 00:55:08meaning veggies first then proteins and
- 00:55:11fats then starches and sugars instead of
- 00:55:14the opposite you reduce the glucose
- 00:55:16Spike of the meal by up to
- 00:55:1875% you're eating the same meal the same
- 00:55:22quantity the same food just the order
- 00:55:24and using that fiber first mentality
- 00:55:26is going to reduce your Spike
- 00:55:28significantly just to be clear this
- 00:55:29doesn't mean that I'm going to gain less
- 00:55:31weight from that
- 00:55:33meal well no because it doesn't H you
- 00:55:36know weight loss doesn't happen within
- 00:55:37one specific meal but it does mean
- 00:55:39you'll have fewer Cravings a couple
- 00:55:41hours after that meal so maybe you won't
- 00:55:42reach for the donut okay that's how it
- 00:55:44would work so indirectly I might not
- 00:55:46game more away exactly exactly so eating
- 00:55:49your food in the right order okay having
- 00:55:51a Savory breakfast we talked about it
- 00:55:54veggies first we talked about it vinegar
- 00:55:56we talked about it moving after eating
- 00:55:57we talked about it and then there's
- 00:55:58clothes on
- 00:56:00carbs so that means anytime you eat
- 00:56:03starches or sugars which are the big
- 00:56:05category of carbs make sure you're never
- 00:56:07eating them naked or on their own
- 00:56:10because if you eat them on their own
- 00:56:13plof they just turn into glucose really
- 00:56:15really quickly so instead of having a
- 00:56:16slice of bread on its own have bread and
- 00:56:19some avocado add some fat to that that's
- 00:56:21a good clothing to add or add some
- 00:56:23protein or add some Fiber if you're
- 00:56:25having a carrot cake don't have it on
- 00:56:27its own have it with a Greek yogurt for
- 00:56:29example so that's clothes on carbs it's
- 00:56:33really easy to remember especially if
- 00:56:36you're going throughout your day and you
- 00:56:37can't really pick what you're eating
- 00:56:39because you don't have many options just
- 00:56:40think clothes on carbs then we have
- 00:56:43Savory
- 00:56:44snacks so during a day if you want to
- 00:56:46have a snack between meals when your
- 00:56:49stomach is empty try to have something
- 00:56:51Savory that won't increase your glucose
- 00:56:53spikes instead of having something sweet
- 00:56:56then another hack that we kind of
- 00:56:57touched on is if you want to eat
- 00:57:00something sweet have it as dessert
- 00:57:02instead of on an empty stomach so if I
- 00:57:04want a cookie or a carrot cake I will
- 00:57:06make sure to buy it in the morning if I
- 00:57:07know where I want to get it from and
- 00:57:08then have it as dessert after my lunch
- 00:57:10or after my dinner so I'm not removing
- 00:57:13any of the sugar from your life I'm just
- 00:57:15showing you how and when to eat it so it
- 00:57:18will reduce the glucose Spike and then
- 00:57:21we have always eat your fruit whole
- 00:57:23never Juiced never dried never smoothed
- 00:57:26only whole to have that protective fiber
- 00:57:29in there thinking about your Instagram
- 00:57:32you post these photos of glucose spikes
- 00:57:33with um in response to different foods
- 00:57:35how do you trial that is that oh great
- 00:57:38question are those your spikes yeah
- 00:57:40those are my spikes or the spikes from
- 00:57:41somebody on my team but it's really
- 00:57:42important to note that these spikes are
- 00:57:46just
- 00:57:46illustrating studies trials that have
- 00:57:49been done by scientists around the world
- 00:57:51so for example I'll find a clinical
- 00:57:52trial showing that vinegar before a meal
- 00:57:55reduces a glucose Spike it's been shown
- 00:57:57at scale with a placebo you know proper
- 00:57:59clinical study and I'll just make an
- 00:58:02example with my own data to illustrate
- 00:58:04that scientific study and that's why if
- 00:58:06you swipe on my post you'll see my graph
- 00:58:08and then the study that I mentioned or
- 00:58:10in the description of the post I don't
- 00:58:12draw any conclusions from my own glucose
- 00:58:14data I'm not like oh look today I had a
- 00:58:16green tea and that didn't cause a spike
- 00:58:18and yesterday I had a green tea and I
- 00:58:19also had a piece of I don't know
- 00:58:21whatever an almond and that caused a
- 00:58:23biggest [ __ ] so I should be telling
- 00:58:25everybody to not have elments like
- 00:58:26that's not how it works at all it's just
- 00:58:28an illustration of existing studies
- 00:58:30that's my role that's my job that's what
- 00:58:32I love to do to translate studies that
- 00:58:34are existing in a way that makes it
- 00:58:37easier for people to understand because
- 00:58:39you can't just give somebody a
- 00:58:41scientific paper you have to explain it
- 00:58:44in a visual way that they can
- 00:58:45immediately get it so of those visuals
- 00:58:49that you've made is there some in
- 00:58:52particular that were most surprising to
- 00:58:53you or most shocking to you because I'm
- 00:58:55going to put some of them on the screen
- 00:58:56so some of them that come to mind that
- 00:58:58would maybe had the biggest response
- 00:59:01from your audience for example yeah I
- 00:59:03think some of the ones that show
- 00:59:04traditional food combinations and how
- 00:59:06they're actually good for our glucose
- 00:59:07levels are fascinating for example
- 00:59:09grapes and cheese so I'm French and
- 00:59:12often when you eat like a big uh plateau
- 00:59:15of cheese you'll have some grapes there
- 00:59:16to have with and it you know the glucose
- 00:59:19response shows us that if we had the
- 00:59:20grape on its own it would be a bigger
- 00:59:22Spike than the grape with the cheese not
- 00:59:24only is it really delicious it's Al
- 00:59:26better for your glucose levels because
- 00:59:27you're putting clothing on that sugary
- 00:59:29carb that is the piece of fruit or ham
- 00:59:33and melon or rice and beans all these
- 00:59:37traditional combinations cause smaller
- 00:59:40spikes than you would expect from the
- 00:59:41individual ingredients that's really
- 00:59:43quite fascinating in terms of the most
- 00:59:46um shocking ones I think
- 00:59:48any glucose graph showing food order is
- 00:59:52really interesting so for example if you
- 00:59:54have salad and then then pasta which is
- 00:59:57much better for your glucose levels than
- 00:59:59having pasta and then the salad
- 01:00:01interesting yeah and that's the food
- 01:00:03order hack going on do you know off the
- 01:00:06top of your head what your most engaged
- 01:00:08post has been of all time the one that's
- 01:00:10been shared the most or commented on the
- 01:00:12most um actually it's one currently at
- 01:00:15least on YouTube it's one where I
- 01:00:17explain where I show an image of an
- 01:00:19ancestral banana what bananas used to
- 01:00:21actually look like in nature and what
- 01:00:24bananas look like today to illustrate
- 01:00:26that the fruit that you find today in
- 01:00:27the supermarket is not natural so that's
- 01:00:30a very very popular one and then I think
- 01:00:32it's the hacks um it's the glucose
- 01:00:34graphs and the videos where I explain
- 01:00:36food order people really love that it's
- 01:00:38so interesting to see that if you have
- 01:00:41your veggies at the beginning of a meal
- 01:00:43you have such a big impact on your
- 01:00:45glucose levels whereas we've all been
- 01:00:47taught that all your food mixes in your
- 01:00:49stomach and mixes like big smoothie and
- 01:00:51it doesn't matter well it does
- 01:00:53actually yeah that because that's really
- 01:00:56easy to change as well totally you don't
- 01:00:57have to change what you're eating how
- 01:00:59much you're eating just next time you're
- 01:01:02sat at a meal think oh I'm going to have
- 01:01:04the veggies on my plate first that's it
- 01:01:07so powerful these hacks are so easy
- 01:01:10Stephen I really want everybody to know
- 01:01:12them I want to become irrelevant I don't
- 01:01:13want to have any more work because
- 01:01:15everybody knows these hacks it's so
- 01:01:17important for our Public Health I think
- 01:01:19some uh vinegar has arrived for you to
- 01:01:21shot yeah no we can't shot it Stephen we
- 01:01:23have to dilute it I'm I'll dilute it as
- 01:01:25well let
- 01:01:28for yes so this is side of vinegar but
- 01:01:32any vinegar works you don't have to buy
- 01:01:33expensive vinegar it doesn't have to be
- 01:01:35organic unfiltered whatever just kitchen
- 01:01:37vinegar works no I try it straight I've
- 01:01:40actually never really drink okay but if
- 01:01:41you're dentist is upset it's not my
- 01:01:42fault okay
- 01:01:45well so Jesse told me to drink this
- 01:01:48straight no she's an expert she said
- 01:01:51she's a scientist
- 01:01:57oh
- 01:01:59gosh yeah you're not supposed to do that
- 01:02:01Stephen no I'm
- 01:02:03sorry no it's been really lovely getting
- 01:02:05to imagine if but it's not that bad but
- 01:02:09it's not something that I would do for
- 01:02:11fun yeah but also if you want to have
- 01:02:12vinegar straight you need to get higher
- 01:02:14quality vinegar there's some vinegars
- 01:02:15that taste really really good but in our
- 01:02:17case we're just trying to get the acetic
- 01:02:19acid and we don't need high quality
- 01:02:21expensive vinegar we can just do like
- 01:02:22really cheap
- 01:02:23vinegar and this is a we just put one
- 01:02:25tbspoon this is a good hack if you have
- 01:02:27a parent that has diabetes and they
- 01:02:29don't want to change anything about
- 01:02:30their lifestyle just get them to add
- 01:02:32this before their meals when they're
- 01:02:33eating carbs and you'll see a good
- 01:02:34impact on their glucos levels okay so
- 01:02:36I'm mixing it like this you didn't put
- 01:02:37much in there I put a tablespoon it's a
- 01:02:41tablespoon and even that small amount
- 01:02:44you L it looked like you you kind of
- 01:02:45filled the lid I fill the lid twice
- 01:02:47basically which is approximately one
- 01:02:49tablespoon I think cuz this is probably
- 01:02:51like yeah this is half a tablespoon I
- 01:02:54would say okay I've done this
- 01:02:56before and now you can't taste
- 01:03:01anything you're telling me that that
- 01:03:03will have an impact absolutely and the
- 01:03:04studies prove it I can't taste anything
- 01:03:06yeah maybe because I just had the big
- 01:03:08shot I think that's probably why but but
- 01:03:11totally Stephen I even meet people on
- 01:03:13the street or like my readers and stuff
- 01:03:15and they'll show me that in their purse
- 01:03:16they have a little um bottle of vinegar
- 01:03:18they take with them it's super easy and
- 01:03:21you know I was very skeptical and I
- 01:03:22think everybody was super skeptical
- 01:03:23about the vinegar thing until the
- 01:03:25studies were widely read it's it's an
- 01:03:28amazing ingredient that's been used for
- 01:03:31Millennia for its health benefits but
- 01:03:33now we understand how it works it has
- 01:03:35impact on visceral fat on cholesterol
- 01:03:37levels on glucose and on insulin levels
- 01:03:39it's a magical ingredient it's super
- 01:03:41cheap so have some vinegar but be very
- 01:03:43careful now a lot of big brands are
- 01:03:45jumping on this and are making vinegar
- 01:03:47drinks that have sugar in them so you
- 01:03:48want straight vinegar you don't want
- 01:03:50anything that has even a tiny bit of
- 01:03:51apple juice or sugar uhuhuh straight
- 01:03:54vinegar
- 01:03:56you said visceral fat yeah is that belly
- 01:03:58fat yeah it's the fat between your
- 01:04:00organs it's the fat that's really bad
- 01:04:02for you so you can have fat that is sort
- 01:04:04of on the outside of your body and you
- 01:04:06can you can grab it you know you can
- 01:04:08grab it and you can really pinch it
- 01:04:09speak for yourself no I totally have
- 01:04:12nice fat here that I can grab yeah yeah
- 01:04:14so this fat you know I can grab visceral
- 01:04:17fat is underneath my muscle layer and
- 01:04:20you would know if somebody has visceral
- 01:04:21fat if they have kind of a big hard
- 01:04:24belly have you ever seen that and they
- 01:04:26just kind of but if you touch it you
- 01:04:28can't make it into a roll that's
- 01:04:30visceral fat that's between your organs
- 01:04:31and that's really bad for you so vinegar
- 01:04:33helps of course this is not a magic
- 01:04:35solution that's going to fix all your
- 01:04:36issues and you know prevent ton of
- 01:04:39diseases it's a good Ally to have and
- 01:04:41I'm all about little allies you bring
- 01:04:43with you Gentle Giants you have
- 01:04:45throughout your day that are going to
- 01:04:46help you get to Health in an easy
- 01:04:48manageable way so so if I have that
- 01:04:51glass that you've just made for me which
- 01:04:52basically I can't taste the vinegar in
- 01:04:54because it's been dilated by water and
- 01:04:56then I eat something yeah remind me
- 01:04:58again of the impact that that will have
- 01:04:59on my glucose Spike so it'll reduce your
- 01:05:03glucose Spike by up to 30% and your
- 01:05:05insulin Spike also by up to 30% the way
- 01:05:08it works is that you have these little
- 01:05:11scissors in your stomach like miniature
- 01:05:15scissors called enzymes their job is to
- 01:05:18chop up the starches and sugars and turn
- 01:05:20them into individual glucose molecules
- 01:05:22it's a part of your digestive process
- 01:05:24these enzymes
- 01:05:26do this
- 01:05:27job vinegar will temporarily inactivate
- 01:05:31some of those little scissors
- 01:05:33essentially slowing down how quickly the
- 01:05:36glucose arrives into your bloodstream
- 01:05:38it's all about velocity we're all about
- 01:05:41trying to reduce the speed of arrival of
- 01:05:43glucose into your bloodstream that's the
- 01:05:46key so vinegar is a really effective way
- 01:05:48of doing this one of the things that I
- 01:05:51read online as well about glucose and
- 01:05:52again this is like conspiracy theories
- 01:05:55that are
- 01:05:56I read this is a variation of the Tweet
- 01:05:59um I'll read it out it says sugar in a
- 01:06:02baby's brain is called ADHD sugar in
- 01:06:06adult's brain is called dementia and
- 01:06:07Alzheimer's sugar in your eyes is called
- 01:06:10glycom sugar in your teeth is called
- 01:06:13cavities sugar on your skin is called
- 01:06:15Aging sugar in your sleep is called
- 01:06:17insomnia sugar in your blood is called
- 01:06:20diabetes sugar on Wall Street is called
- 01:06:24a billion dollar industry boom I get the
- 01:06:27point I think sugar is definitely one of
- 01:06:30the main drivers of all these things but
- 01:06:32there's other stuff going on of course
- 01:06:33but I like that I think the Alzheimer's
- 01:06:35one is really interesting to talk
- 01:06:37about there's a study that has followed
- 01:06:40people for 30 years and they found that
- 01:06:45people who had elevated glucose levels
- 01:06:47in their 40s were more likely to get
- 01:06:50Alzheimer's when they reach 60 70 80 so
- 01:06:55having high glucose levels at midlife is
- 01:06:57a risk factor for Alzheimer's when
- 01:06:59you're older not only that but
- 01:07:01scientists have started to see that some
- 01:07:03of the things you see in the brain of
- 01:07:05someone with Alzheimer's are actually
- 01:07:07similar to what you see in the body of
- 01:07:10somebody with diabetes namely
- 01:07:13inflammation glycation and insulin
- 01:07:17resistance so much so that some
- 01:07:19scientists call Alzheimer's type 3
- 01:07:23diabetes diabetes of the
- 01:07:26brain pretty freaking fascinating
- 01:07:30there's going to be so many people that
- 01:07:31are listening to our conversation when
- 01:07:33we talked about PCOS or Alzheimer's or
- 01:07:36all these kinds of things I think like
- 01:07:38how how is it fair that I've got these
- 01:07:41conditions when I don't even eat as much
- 01:07:43sugar as most people yeah you know they
- 01:07:45probably look at someone who is really
- 01:07:47binging out on sugar who doesn't have
- 01:07:50any of these things if I was a woman and
- 01:07:51I had PCOS and I ate just a little bit
- 01:07:55of sugar I'd be like this is not fair
- 01:07:58and a second ago when you said at 40 if
- 01:07:59you have elevated gluc glucose levels is
- 01:08:03that relative to like or is that to your
- 01:08:06response no they're looking at fasting
- 01:08:09glucose so a measure of a how diabetic
- 01:08:11you are essentially if you're healthy
- 01:08:13pre-diabetic or diabetic so it's not
- 01:08:15looking at the spikes it's looking at
- 01:08:17your Baseline in the morning which is
- 01:08:18what doctors measure with a blood test
- 01:08:21oh okay yeah yeah but Stephen life is
- 01:08:23unfair like I
- 01:08:26my glucose spikes led to terrible mental
- 01:08:29health episodes of depersonalization
- 01:08:31lots of people I know eat so much sugar
- 01:08:33all the time have never had one mental
- 01:08:35health issue in their life I like I
- 01:08:37don't have all the answers to that we
- 01:08:39just know that on average if you look at
- 01:08:41everybody by reducing those spikes
- 01:08:42you're going to reduce the likelihood of
- 01:08:44these diseases but you see people who
- 01:08:46like smoke two packs of cigarettes a day
- 01:08:48drink two liters of orange juice and
- 01:08:50live to 120 with no health issues and
- 01:08:52you have people who are perfectly
- 01:08:54healthy who get cancer at 25 and die
- 01:08:56like I'm not God I don't know but what I
- 01:08:59do know is that in a lot of cases when
- 01:09:02you have a condition that's linked to
- 01:09:03glucose levels and you apply these hacks
- 01:09:05you can get relief or remission that's
- 01:09:07all I know are there any societies where
- 01:09:09they just don't really eat sugar that
- 01:09:11you you can think of or any sort of I
- 01:09:14think any any culture any country that's
- 01:09:16been globalized and now has access to
- 01:09:18like fizzy drinks and stuff it's so
- 01:09:19addictive that stuff as soon as you
- 01:09:21introduce it somewhere everybody starts
- 01:09:22drinking it I'd love to do a continuous
- 01:09:25glucose monitor on like the heads a
- 01:09:26tribe or something in Africa and see
- 01:09:28amazing if they're like inflammation
- 01:09:30levels and stuff yeah I would do
- 01:09:32continous glucose monitor but also
- 01:09:33fasting glucose levels right to just
- 01:09:35kind of see what their Baseline is at do
- 01:09:37any of them have diabetes pre-diabetes
- 01:09:39or not at all what's going on but yeah I
- 01:09:41agree it's fascinating you mentioned a
- 01:09:43term earlier that I've only ever heard
- 01:09:44used when talking about a zmek glp1 yeah
- 01:09:48what what relationship does glucose have
- 01:09:50with gp1s and what the hell is a
- 01:09:53glp1 it's so interesting so
- 01:09:55in your digestive system you have these
- 01:09:57little cells they're called L cells and
- 01:10:00they're like little sensors and they
- 01:10:01just hang out there in your digestive
- 01:10:03tract just like chilling and doing
- 01:10:05nothing and then as soon as you eat and
- 01:10:07they sense food they wake up they're
- 01:10:10like alert we have a job to do and their
- 01:10:12job is to release a substance called
- 01:10:16glp1 this
- 01:10:18substance then goes to different parts
- 01:10:21of your body and tells you that you've
- 01:10:22eaten enough food and you can stop
- 01:10:24eating so for example you're having a
- 01:10:26big plate of
- 01:10:27pasta the starch goes into your
- 01:10:30digestive system the little L cells
- 01:10:32sense the pasta they're like oh we've
- 01:10:33eaten food and then it tells your brain
- 01:10:35Stephen you can stop eating you don't
- 01:10:37have to eat another five pounds of pasta
- 01:10:39you're satiated M and you become less
- 01:10:41hungry not only that but glp1 also helps
- 01:10:45your body deal with that glucose spike
- 01:10:47it says alert glucose is here let's put
- 01:10:50some of that glucose away into liver
- 01:10:53muscle and fat cells so glp1
- 01:10:55is a totally normal part of our
- 01:10:58physiology it's been there forever we
- 01:11:00all have it but recently it's been kind
- 01:11:03of
- 01:11:05um just taking advantage of so there
- 01:11:08were scientists and Pharma companies who
- 01:11:09said hey this gp1 thing is pretty cool
- 01:11:13what happens if we give somebody 10
- 01:11:16times 20 times a 100 times more glp1
- 01:11:19than they naturally have what what's
- 01:11:21going to happen Let's test that so they
- 01:11:23did that and what happened was people's
- 01:11:25glucose levels started decreasing a lot
- 01:11:27because remember gp1 puts glucose away
- 01:11:31second impact people stopped
- 01:11:35eathing they were not hungry anymore
- 01:11:38they appetite Zapped gel1 is a very
- 01:11:41powerful appetite suppressant especially
- 01:11:43when you have it in massive doses so the
- 01:11:45fmer companies were like huh this is
- 01:11:48going to be a helpful drug and first it
- 01:11:50was just for people with diabetes okay
- 01:11:52to reduce your glucose levels now it's
- 01:11:53been used for weight loss
- 01:11:55basically throughout the world it's so
- 01:11:57popular and you might think oh Jilin is
- 01:12:00so cool it's helping people lose weight
- 01:12:01for me Stephen I'm like guys do you
- 01:12:03realize what's going on do you realize
- 01:12:05that we've had to invent a drug to
- 01:12:08prevent people from eating the food
- 01:12:10around them because the food around them
- 01:12:11is so toxic that it's making them sick
- 01:12:14it's as if we found out that top water
- 01:12:17was toxic and killing us and instead of
- 01:12:19fixing the top water being toxic we
- 01:12:22invented a drug that made you less
- 01:12:24thirsty
- 01:12:27how messed up is that that we need this
- 01:12:29drug today to protect us from the food
- 01:12:32around us because the food around us is
- 01:12:33causing so many issues so that's my
- 01:12:36little soap box
- 01:12:38but the glp1 drugs are really
- 01:12:40interesting because they cut people's
- 01:12:42appetite so people lose a lot of weight
- 01:12:45there's a few problems with those first
- 01:12:47up to 40% of the weight that is lost is
- 01:12:50actually muscle mass they're not drugs
- 01:12:52that just make you lose fat you lose
- 01:12:55cells from everywhere in your body and
- 01:12:57muscle is really important for longevity
- 01:12:59for health for your glucose levels and
- 01:13:02then when people stop taking these drugs
- 01:13:04on average they they gain back 70% of
- 01:13:08the weight that they lost and they don't
- 01:13:10gain back muscle they gain back fat so
- 01:13:14if you're on one of these drugs you can
- 01:13:15actually end up in a worse situation
- 01:13:17when you stop taking it so if you're on
- 01:13:19one of these weight train three times a
- 01:13:21week eat a lot of protein to make sure
- 01:13:24you're not not losing too much muscle
- 01:13:26mass and I see this everywhere some
- 01:13:28people they just need this stuff because
- 01:13:29they're so stuck in a cycle of not
- 01:13:31having access to good food and in a in a
- 01:13:33cycle of um of Crisis essentially their
- 01:13:36body is really broken they're really
- 01:13:37sick and they just need a way out but to
- 01:13:39me it's
- 01:13:40um it's wild that we got to this
- 01:13:43point are you saying that you're not a
- 01:13:45fan of people taking a zenek or are you
- 01:13:47saying that you're not a fan of the
- 01:13:49environment that has caused the need or
- 01:13:51rise in I'm not a fan of the fact that
- 01:13:54we today need this to save people's
- 01:13:56lives because the food system is so
- 01:13:57toxic and messed up that the only
- 01:14:00solution is to stop people from eating
- 01:14:01the food around them what's the solution
- 01:14:03though is it is the solution you're
- 01:14:05proposing that the government regulates
- 01:14:07food more harshly yeah I think it's it's
- 01:14:09regulation it's also you know these big
- 01:14:12food companies the food industry they
- 01:14:14need to be making money right they need
- 01:14:16to make sure their shareholders are
- 01:14:17happy and the problem is most of them
- 01:14:19make toxic products that are full of
- 01:14:21sugar but they would love to make
- 01:14:22products that are lower in sugar people
- 01:14:25don't like the lower in Sugar products
- 01:14:26we have it's just like a systemic issue
- 01:14:28we have to all fix together we either
- 01:14:30have to say okay all food companies
- 01:14:32nobody's allowed to put more than x
- 01:14:34amount of sugar in any product ever and
- 01:14:36then we have to educate people and tell
- 01:14:38them hey anytime there's sugar in a
- 01:14:40product that's dessert that's not real
- 01:14:42food we have to give people access to
- 01:14:44food so many people live in food deserts
- 01:14:46and all they have is soda and processed
- 01:14:48frozen meals it's it's a
- 01:14:51global complicated complicated problem I
- 01:14:53don't have the answer to it but but I'm
- 01:14:56hoping that people are waking up and
- 01:14:58trying to make change happen I was
- 01:15:00listening to a conversation this morning
- 01:15:02funly enough in the shower and in part
- 01:15:04of the podcast they said um there was
- 01:15:06one of the hosts who was trying to frame
- 01:15:08it as this kind of like sugar conspiracy
- 01:15:10theory yeah and this like processed food
- 01:15:11cons conspiracy theory where like big
- 01:15:13farmer like all in on it and there's
- 01:15:15like these evil people in this like
- 01:15:16Tower or whatever and then it was
- 01:15:18rebutted by the other host who basically
- 01:15:20made the case which I kind of believe
- 01:15:22that actually it's not necessarily this
- 01:15:23big conspiracy theory it's really a case
- 01:15:26of incentives like commercial incentives
- 01:15:28and he explained that one of the leading
- 01:15:30soda brands that we all know in drink
- 01:15:32the probably the most famous in the
- 01:15:33world they basically ran a study where
- 01:15:35they put um different amounts of sugar
- 01:15:38into their drink to see what sold the
- 01:15:40most and the scientists there put like
- 01:15:4230 grams in 40 grams in 50 gr 60 gram in
- 01:15:46some people loved 30 gram some people L
- 01:15:4860 grams of sugar but the thing that
- 01:15:50resulted in the highest sell through of
- 01:15:52this drink that we all know of was like
- 01:15:5542 g of sugar so that's what they went
- 01:15:57with absolutely and again like it sounds
- 01:16:02really really evil but when you just
- 01:16:04break something down to the incentives a
- 01:16:06company has a key kpi and okr and a
- 01:16:09metric of make more money they are
- 01:16:11publicly listed they've got investors
- 01:16:13they don't make more money they die so
- 01:16:15that's their incentive and if they find
- 01:16:17out that 42 grams of sugar in a drink is
- 01:16:20going to result in that goal being met
- 01:16:23then that's what they're going to do
- 01:16:24totally St
- 01:16:25I used to think when I was younger that
- 01:16:27diabetes was sort of invented by the
- 01:16:29food industry and the Pharma industry
- 01:16:30because when you think about it like
- 01:16:32it's a perfect disease because when you
- 01:16:34have di diabetes is caused by eating too
- 01:16:36much crap food over too long and then
- 01:16:38once you have diabetes instead of saying
- 01:16:40hey stop the crap food they just give
- 01:16:42you medication that allows you to keep
- 01:16:43eating the crap food and manage your
- 01:16:46condition and then you need more
- 01:16:47medication and you're eating more crap
- 01:16:48food and then you die so I thought this
- 01:16:51is like the perfect conspiracy if big
- 01:16:52food and big Pharma were like how are we
- 01:16:54going to make the mov money possible but
- 01:16:55actually it's way more complicated than
- 01:16:57that it's it's it's a very tough
- 01:17:00situation I don't have the answer but
- 01:17:02I'm hoping that in my lifetime we see
- 01:17:03some progress because I really do
- 01:17:05believe that the people in these
- 01:17:06companies they want to do better they
- 01:17:08want they don't want people to die they
- 01:17:10don't want people to get sick but they
- 01:17:11also have to make sure that the
- 01:17:12company's making money so how do you
- 01:17:14bridge those two that's really
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- 01:19:20glucose spikes and menopause yeah so
- 01:19:23unfortunately once you go through men
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- 01:19:26same food becomes higher so your body is
- 01:19:29less good I know you're making a sad
- 01:19:31face I know it's difficult you your
- 01:19:34glucose levels naturally increase your
- 01:19:35glucose spikes naturally increase what I
- 01:19:37have found in the studies which is
- 01:19:39interesting is that in females going
- 01:19:42through menopause when you reduce the
- 01:19:44amount of sugar in the diet and reduce
- 01:19:45their glucose spikes you do get some
- 01:19:47relief from your symptoms whether it's
- 01:19:49in insomnia hot flashes you do see that
- 01:19:52food can impact how bad of a time you
- 01:19:55have when you go through this
- 01:20:00process H have I depressed you no no I
- 01:20:03just so okay so I've got the hacks I
- 01:20:06kind of understand the impact that
- 01:20:07glucose is having on my body now um I
- 01:20:11guess
- 01:20:12the it's funny because there's a whole
- 01:20:14spectrum of people that listen there's
- 01:20:16some people that listen to this that
- 01:20:18will be on one side of the spectrum
- 01:20:20where they're really struggling with
- 01:20:21sugar maybe they're clinically obese and
- 01:20:23maybe they just can't get out of that
- 01:20:25that roller coaster those cravings and
- 01:20:27it's probably somewhat emotional yeah
- 01:20:30there probably some kind of trauma there
- 01:20:34or something maybe there's a genetic
- 01:20:36predisposition or whatever but for those
- 01:20:38people like I I I don't know I don't
- 01:20:40know what what to offer them really like
- 01:20:43what what can I offer them what can we
- 01:20:45offer them so people who are stuck in a
- 01:20:47craving cycle that are the extreme end
- 01:20:49of the craving cycle okay so when you're
- 01:20:52at the extreme end of the craving cycle
- 01:20:54you are a Vic vitim to your sugar
- 01:20:55Cravings throughout the day you'll be
- 01:20:56like I need sugar I need sugar you go
- 01:20:58grab it right yes this can be due to
- 01:20:59emotional factors but also it probably
- 01:21:01means that you're on a big glucose
- 01:21:03roller coaster it means you're
- 01:21:04activating that craving Center in your
- 01:21:05brain multiple times every two
- 01:21:08hours if before you eat something sweet
- 01:21:11next time you have a craving if you do
- 01:21:12one of these things either you have a
- 01:21:14tablespoon of vinegar in water either
- 01:21:16you have something else before it a
- 01:21:18little bit of broccoli some cherry
- 01:21:19tomatoes a carrot some almonds something
- 01:21:22that's going to put some clothing on
- 01:21:23those carbs you'll be ble to get the
- 01:21:25dopamine from the Cravings sorry you'll
- 01:21:27be able to get the dopamine from the
- 01:21:28sugar with less of a spike and less of a
- 01:21:30crash so less activation of the craving
- 01:21:33Center in your brain and if you do this
- 01:21:34throughout the day you're going to feel
- 01:21:37a little bit less urge for that sweet
- 01:21:39food I don't think we can say these
- 01:21:40people are not going to benefit from
- 01:21:42studying their glucose levels I think
- 01:21:43that would be misguided you must have so
- 01:21:45many people that message you though that
- 01:21:46have just tried and tried and tried and
- 01:21:48tried yeah listen for some people like
- 01:21:51they just can't do it it's just hard for
- 01:21:53them you know they're in a difficult
- 01:21:55economic social relationship situation
- 01:21:58and they just can't do the hacks right
- 01:22:00now maybe they'll be able to in a year
- 01:22:02but most people who try and who are able
- 01:22:04to get their hands on savory breakfast
- 01:22:06ingredients on vinegar on some veggies
- 01:22:09they see really good impact and that's
- 01:22:11what drives me
- 01:22:12really and I guess much of what might
- 01:22:15motivate them or give them the
- 01:22:16discipline to stick is I mean this is
- 01:22:18certainly the case for me is getting
- 01:22:19really clear on why why all this stuff
- 01:22:21matters you know I don't think humans
- 01:22:24are particularly good at thinking too
- 01:22:25far into the future I think we're good
- 01:22:26at dealing with prevention is not sexy
- 01:22:29right like if you tell somebody oh these
- 01:22:31glucose hacks are going to be good for
- 01:22:32you so you prevent Alzheimer's like
- 01:22:33nobody really cares unless you have a
- 01:22:34parent with Alzheimer's but this stuff
- 01:22:36not only does it help you long term but
- 01:22:38even just forget about that it will help
- 01:22:40you feel better today have fewer
- 01:22:42cravings for sugar today have more
- 01:22:44energy today to go and get your to-do
- 01:22:46list done sleep better tonight that's
- 01:22:48the stuff that motivates people and it's
- 01:22:50easy Stephen it's easy Savory breakfast
- 01:22:53vinegar veggie star
- 01:22:55movement it's easy and you feel the
- 01:22:57impact immediately so you want to keep
- 01:22:59going and on that point of today if I'm
- 01:23:00doing a podcast episode and I've got I'm
- 01:23:01sitting here for three four five hours
- 01:23:03sometimes for somebody do you recommend
- 01:23:05that I avoid glucose before I do the
- 01:23:08podcast to make sure my cognitive
- 01:23:09performance might 100% yes studies show
- 01:23:12that when you have a big glucose Spike
- 01:23:14for breakfast before you do a cognitive
- 01:23:16task you are not as good on the
- 01:23:18cognitive task as if you have steady
- 01:23:20glucose levels because your brain also
- 01:23:22uses glucose for energy and so it feels
- 01:23:24the ups and the downs and the
- 01:23:25inflammation and the glycation if you
- 01:23:27want to really fuel your brain have a
- 01:23:29nice savory breakfast or eat nothing if
- 01:23:31you don't feel like eating well you said
- 01:23:33that my my brain uses glucose for energy
- 01:23:35so if I have a massive bowl of sugar
- 01:23:37right before this conversation isn't my
- 01:23:39brain going to be like no it's like your
- 01:23:41mitochondria it's like the plant some
- 01:23:43glucose steady supply good too much
- 01:23:45glucose at once stress stress in your
- 01:23:47mitochondria stress in your body too
- 01:23:50much water at once in a plant plant dies
- 01:23:52you want to make sure the supply is is
- 01:23:54nice and steady the variation is what
- 01:23:56causes
- 01:23:57issues um you gave me this blue tube
- 01:24:00that's in front of me what is this it
- 01:24:03says anti-spike
- 01:24:05formula I can't even pronounce it that's
- 01:24:07not English oh did I give you a French
- 01:24:09you give me aen French one okay in
- 01:24:10English it should
- 01:24:11say makes the glucose Spike of carbs and
- 01:24:14sugar up to 40%
- 01:24:16smaller what is it okay it's like It's
- 01:24:19So for anybody that's just listening on
- 01:24:20audio it's this little jar of tablet
- 01:24:25little
- 01:24:26capsules um on each capsule it says
- 01:24:29anti-spike half of the capsule is green
- 01:24:31the other half of it is this sort of
- 01:24:32like beige color and it's got a powder
- 01:24:34in each capsule um the 60 capsules in
- 01:24:37this little jar mhm what is it this is
- 01:24:41just me
- 01:24:43putting some Cutting Edge signs into
- 01:24:45capsules so people can use it
- 01:24:47so there have been two big scientific
- 01:24:50realizations that I wanted to share with
- 01:24:51people the first one has to do with glp1
- 01:24:54so you know those little cells that are
- 01:24:56sensing food and that produce gp1 in
- 01:24:58your body that I was
- 01:25:00mentioning
- 01:25:02nice there's a molecule in lemon look at
- 01:25:05me look at you st who would have thought
- 01:25:06who would have thought look at us there
- 01:25:07you go the glucose goddess
- 01:25:10himself drinking vinegar in this hand
- 01:25:12anti- Spike formula in this hand we're
- 01:25:14going to live forever you're going to
- 01:25:15live forever we're going to live forever
- 01:25:16I really want to live until like 150
- 01:25:18mostly because I want to see if they
- 01:25:19find aliens anyway that's a sidebar so
- 01:25:22do you know what me I just did that did
- 01:25:23you recognize it where that that guy
- 01:25:24guys I think it's hot ones and I like
- 01:25:26look at us look at us look at us who
- 01:25:30thought you're you're perfect Stephen
- 01:25:32I'm so proud of you wait wait so I want
- 01:25:34to tell you this because it's really
- 01:25:35cool so you know lemons they're really
- 01:25:37yellow yeah okay so the reason they're
- 01:25:38yellow is because of the substance
- 01:25:40called aroc citrin it's an antioxidant
- 01:25:43it's really good aroc citrine has been
- 01:25:45discovered by scientists to be really
- 01:25:47good at increasing the amount of gp1
- 01:25:49your little L cells make so on the one
- 01:25:51hand you have like extreme Pharma drugs
- 01:25:53giving you way too much gp1 and then on
- 01:25:56this side you have natural stuff that
- 01:25:57can naturally increase gp1 which helps
- 01:25:59your glucose levels your cravings and
- 01:26:01your satiety so this lemon molecule
- 01:26:05arrine if you have enough of it it's
- 01:26:08going to increase the amount of gp1 your
- 01:26:09cells produce the thing is Stephen you
- 01:26:12need to have a lot of it you need to
- 01:26:13drink like one and a half liters of
- 01:26:16lemon juice per day to get enough to
- 01:26:19impact your cells or you can extract it
- 01:26:23and you can concentrate and that's what
- 01:26:25I've done and put into anti-spike so
- 01:26:28this is a really cool natural molecule
- 01:26:29that I want people to have access to to
- 01:26:31do the natural gp1 increase so this
- 01:26:33could low glucose Spike by up to 40% so
- 01:26:36the the lemon extract doesn't do the
- 01:26:38glucose spike it does the glp1 thing the
- 01:26:40other thing that I've put in anti-spike
- 01:26:42is an extract from mulbury Leaf so
- 01:26:45mulbury Leaf contains a molecule called
- 01:26:47D NJ super cool molecule when you have
- 01:26:51it before a meal it goes and it
- 01:26:53interacts with with those little
- 01:26:54scissors I was telling you about that
- 01:26:55vinegar acts on and it prevents up to
- 01:26:5840% of the glucose in your meal from
- 01:27:00being absorbed into your bloodstream so
- 01:27:03it just cuts by 40% the glucose
- 01:27:06absorption just the glucose it doesn't
- 01:27:08cut the vitamins the protein the
- 01:27:09minerals nothing so I've put these two
- 01:27:12amazing scientific discoveries into this
- 01:27:14bottle with the best quality extracts
- 01:27:16Etc because they were not on the market
- 01:27:18and I wanted people to have access to
- 01:27:19them again you can just do the food
- 01:27:21hacks you don't need this but if you
- 01:27:23want supplement health
- 01:27:24don't go for burin don't go for vinegar
- 01:27:27capsules this is what you need what is
- 01:27:29uh what is the most important thing we
- 01:27:30haven't spoken about that you think we
- 01:27:31should have um there's a new study that
- 01:27:34I wanted to mention on depression which
- 01:27:35I think is really interesting that has
- 01:27:37followed people for 10 years so it
- 01:27:39followed 300 people none of them had
- 01:27:43insulin resistance or depression at the
- 01:27:45beginning of the study and insulin
- 01:27:46resistance as I explained is just a
- 01:27:48consequence of lots of glucose spikes
- 01:27:49over a long time they follow these
- 01:27:51people for 10 years they found that in
- 01:27:54the people who developed insulin
- 01:27:56resistance within those 10 years there
- 01:27:58was almost a twofold increase in the
- 01:28:01development of major depression as well
- 01:28:03so insulin resistance is correlated to
- 01:28:07major depressive disorder not saying
- 01:28:09it's causing it but for me the
- 01:28:11connection between glucose and mental
- 01:28:13health is truly fascinating and as you
- 01:28:16know and we discussed on our previous
- 01:28:18episode that's the reason I got into
- 01:28:19this in the first place and seeing more
- 01:28:21studies come out like this linking the
- 01:28:23two
- 01:28:25I think we're going to learn so much in
- 01:28:26the next few years I mean I think as you
- 01:28:29were saying that I was thinking about
- 01:28:30you know if I have a high glucose diet
- 01:28:33then it has a ton of Downstream
- 01:28:35consequences one of which is like my
- 01:28:36sleep is going to be terrible if my
- 01:28:38sleep is terrible I'm probably going to
- 01:28:39be more likely to be depressed yeah
- 01:28:42absolutely do you think much about sleep
- 01:28:44in glucose has anyone ever I do yeah
- 01:28:47there are some studies showing that if
- 01:28:48you go to bed after dinner that that has
- 01:28:50caused a big glucose Spike you're going
- 01:28:51to have have less restorative deep sleep
- 01:28:55and for me if I go to bed with a big
- 01:28:56rcos bike at dinner in the morning I
- 01:28:58wake up and I'm so hungry it's always
- 01:29:00like I inevitably if my dinner causes a
- 01:29:04big spike I'm hungry as soon as I wake
- 01:29:05up like gargling hunger so I think sleep
- 01:29:09and food are more related than we think
- 01:29:11and then if we're tired our glucose
- 01:29:14spikes will be higher the next day which
- 01:29:17means we'll have more Cravings because
- 01:29:19if your body's tired it can't manage
- 01:29:22glucose as effectively in fact another
- 01:29:24study I want to mention which is really
- 01:29:25cool so you're a coffee drinker now M
- 01:29:28Coffee in some people causes glucose
- 01:29:30Pikes even black coffee because of the
- 01:29:32stress response have you ever seen a
- 01:29:34glucose bike from coffee I've not looked
- 01:29:37okay
- 01:29:38then then let's hope you don't but in
- 01:29:41some people it causes a spike especially
- 01:29:42in people who feel a bit jittery and
- 01:29:44anxious when they drink coffee here's
- 01:29:46the study it showed that if you if
- 01:29:47you're tired and you didn't sleep well
- 01:29:49you should drink your coffee after your
- 01:29:52breakfast instead of before four and it
- 01:29:54can cut the glucose Spike of your coffee
- 01:29:57by up to
- 01:29:5850% and also I think it makes sense from
- 01:30:00a cortisol standpoint if you're
- 01:30:01exhausted and you just have a bunch of
- 01:30:04coffee first thing when you wake up it
- 01:30:06might be a lot for your body to handle
- 01:30:08so even black coffee can cause the
- 01:30:09glucose yeah in some people yeah in me
- 01:30:11it never caused it uh didn't prevent me
- 01:30:14from becoming way too addicted to coffee
- 01:30:17but in some people it caused a spike
- 01:30:18yeah have you stopped drinking coffee
- 01:30:21did you say yeah 31 days ago tracking
- 01:30:24the day really why yeah because it was a
- 01:30:27habit that I was dependent on but that
- 01:30:30didn't serve me and I knew this for
- 01:30:32years every time I had a coffee I then
- 01:30:34didn't feel so good and I was like why
- 01:30:35did I drink that coffee it just the
- 01:30:37crash is really intense for me my brain
- 01:30:39is very sensitive to stuff so it would
- 01:30:41just make me have a bit of brain fog I
- 01:30:43would not think Super clearly but yet
- 01:30:45every night when I went to bed I would
- 01:30:47be dreaming about my flat white in the
- 01:30:49morning and it was something I really
- 01:30:50wanted to solve and I don't know why you
- 01:30:53know a month ago I was drinking coffee I
- 01:30:56was like that's it that's the last one
- 01:30:57for a while and then I didn't have one
- 01:30:59the next day or the next day and then
- 01:31:01after 5 days you just don't even want it
- 01:31:03anymore and what have you noticed since
- 01:31:04you've stopped drinking coffee it's so
- 01:31:06much easier for me to fall asleep at
- 01:31:08night like I just I just get in bed and
- 01:31:10within 10 minutes I'm asleep whereas
- 01:31:12before I would think and be in bed and
- 01:31:14just you know think about stuff have
- 01:31:16lots of thoughts and just spend an hour
- 01:31:17awake essentially and then my brain
- 01:31:21works better I don't have those big
- 01:31:22bursts of energy where I would get super
- 01:31:24productive and like get all my [ __ ] done
- 01:31:26but I feel more consistent throughout
- 01:31:28the day and I feel more like myself I
- 01:31:30think that's the biggest part and I feel
- 01:31:32proud of myself for having done this I
- 01:31:33know it's not a huge deal but for me it
- 01:31:35meant a lot I've been trying to drive
- 01:31:37this coffee conspiracy for so long and
- 01:31:38no one will take it what's the
- 01:31:39conspiracy I just think it's hailed as
- 01:31:43this like super food and this super um
- 01:31:46super drink that really has no impact on
- 01:31:49us other than if we drink it past 12:00
- 01:31:52then it's going to impact our sleep
- 01:31:53because life of its 12 hours so but I
- 01:31:55just think like something that has such
- 01:31:57a big clear positive impact or at least
- 01:32:00in the short term of productivity Focus
- 01:32:03um that people are so dependent on in
- 01:32:04culture must be at
- 01:32:08somewhere having equal and opposite cost
- 01:32:11what's weird is that all the studies
- 01:32:13show that people who drink more coffee
- 01:32:15have fewer diseases I know it's like so
- 01:32:18weird how could this be because I I live
- 01:32:21by principle that everything has like an
- 01:32:23equal and opposite cost I think that's
- 01:32:24like Einstein's theory of relativity or
- 01:32:26whatever i' totally butched that cuz I
- 01:32:28have no idea about anything to do
- 01:32:29physics but just this idea that you
- 01:32:31can't isn't it like e equal MC squ where
- 01:32:33it's you basically I don't know even
- 01:32:35what I'm talking about look at me mass
- 01:32:36and energy yeah like you can't destroy
- 01:32:38every Force has an opposite effect equal
- 01:32:39an opposite effect and so with coffee
- 01:32:42okay if it brings me really really up
- 01:32:43and it really makes me focused and
- 01:32:44productive then there must be an equal
- 01:32:48and opposite downside maybe the downside
- 01:32:49is just you spend a lot of money on it I
- 01:32:51don't know but it can't be that's like
- 01:32:53it's not like a find out it's got to be
- 01:32:55there's got to be listen maybe it's just
- 01:32:57one of those things that's actually not
- 01:32:59too bad for us I don't know I think one
- 01:33:01of the downsides is that people often
- 01:33:03put a lot of stuff in their coffee like
- 01:33:04sugar oat milk things that are not good
- 01:33:06for you you know oat milk is pasta juice
- 01:33:09anybody listening o milk is not good for
- 01:33:11you it's just starch so maybe that's the
- 01:33:13downside I don't know no I don't don't
- 01:33:15believe it it's got to be you know again
- 01:33:18looking at all the studies longevity
- 01:33:21Health disease weight loss you know
- 01:33:23everything it says
- 01:33:24the super thing um but maybe we're not
- 01:33:27focusing don't you think it disconnects
- 01:33:28you a little bit from yourself maybe
- 01:33:30that's the downside that you're you're
- 01:33:32less grounded you're less in your body
- 01:33:33you're a bit less authentic to you you
- 01:33:35get a bit more like supercharged yeah
- 01:33:37supercharged maybe that's why maybe
- 01:33:39that's the downside maybe it is maybe
- 01:33:40people just value the downside totally
- 01:33:42because in our society we love this
- 01:33:43stuff we love just being in our brain
- 01:33:45and having a big Todo
- 01:33:47list how are you dealing with all this
- 01:33:50attention I'm in a good place now but it
- 01:33:53was really tough cuz I'm such a
- 01:33:55sensitive person um at the beginning I
- 01:33:58had no idea what I was doing I had like
- 01:34:00a Google alert set for my name and I was
- 01:34:02getting things every day yeah and nobody
- 01:34:04teaches you how to deal with this stuff
- 01:34:06true you have to learn the hard way yeah
- 01:34:08so now now I protect protect myself you
- 01:34:10know I don't read anything and my team
- 01:34:11filters stuff to me that's important and
- 01:34:14uh all in all like the the quote unquote
- 01:34:16attention I just keep coming back to the
- 01:34:18fact that you know I believe in what I'm
- 01:34:20doing it's helpful it's easy I see proof
- 01:34:23every every day that it's helping people
- 01:34:24it's scientific it makes me happy and so
- 01:34:27all the noise you know all the haters
- 01:34:29and stuff you just kind of it's part of
- 01:34:31the package I guess I think you're all
- 01:34:32you know having met you and spoken to
- 01:34:34you for a long time on and off we go way
- 01:34:37back now tell me about it um you are one
- 01:34:39of the most well-intentioned pure
- 01:34:42wonderful people I have ever met and in
- 01:34:45fact when I when I saw that we were
- 01:34:47having this conversation today I think
- 01:34:49often times it's a good gauge of the
- 01:34:50person because I was really just excited
- 01:34:53it was like expansive knowing that you
- 01:34:54were coming here because you're such a
- 01:34:56beautiful soul and human and so anybody
- 01:35:00writing bad things about you I just
- 01:35:01think just doesn't understand who you
- 01:35:03are as a person and that's okay we
- 01:35:05forgive thanks Stephen so kind of you to
- 01:35:07say we have um a closing TR on this
- 01:35:09podcast where the last guest leaves a
- 01:35:10question for the next guest not knowing
- 01:35:11who they're leaving it
- 01:35:17for and the question that's been left
- 01:35:19for you is tell us about an occasion
- 01:35:22that comes to mind when complete
- 01:35:24stranger did a surprising Act of great
- 01:35:27kindness to oh yeah I know
- 01:35:31exactly it was a year and a half ago I
- 01:35:34was in London and it was just before
- 01:35:36this book was coming out and I was in a
- 01:35:37phase
- 01:35:38where you know when you get burnt out
- 01:35:41and it's just a lot and I was like why
- 01:35:42am I doing this I just I just want to
- 01:35:44quit and I got into a black cab stepen
- 01:35:48and the driver I think he was an angel
- 01:35:50or something he just looked in the
- 01:35:52mirror and looked at me and started
- 01:35:54saying that was going to make me cry he
- 01:35:56just looked at me and he said whatever
- 01:35:58you're doing it's
- 01:35:59important he just said that and he just
- 01:36:02said whatever you're doing it's
- 01:36:04important like keep going and it's so
- 01:36:07crazy that this stuff happens there was
- 01:36:09the universe sending me a message or
- 01:36:11something he was definitely like I don't
- 01:36:14know yeah that really stuck with me
- 01:36:17because it really felt like a and I'm a
- 01:36:19very spiritual person it really felt
- 01:36:21like a
- 01:36:22message from the Spirits you know trying
- 01:36:24to help me in this difficult moment so
- 01:36:26it was not so much a personal thing
- 01:36:28somebody did but it was something that
- 01:36:30someone channeled that like really
- 01:36:32impacted me why did it matter so much at
- 01:36:35that
- 01:36:38moment oh because I go through ups and
- 01:36:40downs it's hard you know it's hard to
- 01:36:42drive this idea this project by myself
- 01:36:44and to manage all the people and to care
- 01:36:47so much about the placement of the
- 01:36:48[ __ ] broccoli on the cover of the
- 01:36:50book and it's just it's a lot it's a lot
- 01:36:52of stuff that I care about so deeply and
- 01:36:54sometimes it's just it just eats at you
- 01:36:56it's so much it's so much and I think it
- 01:37:00mattered to me so much when he said that
- 01:37:01because it felt like okay there's
- 01:37:03something going on that is beyond what
- 01:37:07we understand beyond what science
- 01:37:09understands this was a message from the
- 01:37:11universe this person had I didn't say a
- 01:37:13word Stephen I didn't say a [ __ ] word
- 01:37:16and he said that to
- 01:37:18me yeah I mean it's what I took from
- 01:37:20what you said is just how a total
- 01:37:21stranger sing a couple of words can
- 01:37:24really have such a tremendous impact
- 01:37:25like I interpret it as like a message
- 01:37:27from God but actually whatever maybe he
- 01:37:29says that to everybody maybe but
- 01:37:31regardless of the fact there's something
- 01:37:33so beautiful about how you never really
- 01:37:36know at any given moment what anyone's
- 01:37:37going through and just a couple of
- 01:37:39well-placed words can have such a
- 01:37:41profound impact in just imagine like so
- 01:37:44say the this is exaggerating the
- 01:37:47scenario slightly but you were really
- 01:37:49going to quit yeah and him saying those
- 01:37:51couple of words someone that has no idea
- 01:37:53whatsoever
- 01:37:53pushed you to carry on on your mission
- 01:37:55and pushing you to carry on on your
- 01:37:56mission saves thousands and thousands
- 01:37:58and thousands of people's lives and
- 01:38:00extends their health span and all it was
- 01:38:02was a couple of words wild and all of
- 01:38:04that's going on at all times in our
- 01:38:05society and we don't even know the sort
- 01:38:07of butterfly effect of the impact it's
- 01:38:09having on people but we can bet on the
- 01:38:12fact that it's just better to be kind
- 01:38:14exactly and we can bet on the fact that
- 01:38:15if we want to say something nice to
- 01:38:16somebody we should you know when you see
- 01:38:18somebody in the street on crutches or
- 01:38:20whatever just say like get well soon
- 01:38:22that kind of [ __ ] is powerful just see
- 01:38:23them you know it's just being seen I
- 01:38:25think which is so powerful because you
- 01:38:27get into your own
- 01:38:28head Jesse thank you thank you so much
- 01:38:31I'm very very excited by your anti-
- 01:38:33Spike formula very very excited and my
- 01:38:34partner is going to be thrilled when I
- 01:38:36bring this home so thank you for that
- 01:38:38and I highly recommend because this book
- 01:38:40is so beautiful and it's been such a
- 01:38:41Smash Hit um all around the world I
- 01:38:43think it sold what more than three
- 01:38:44million copies or something staggering
- 01:38:45like that so congratulations and all
- 01:38:47your success long may it continue and I
- 01:38:49have to say what you're doing is
- 01:38:51important so please do keep on doing it
- 01:38:54thank you you're going to make me cry
- 01:38:56again you're the worst you always make
- 01:38:58me cry no I don't do anything what are
- 01:38:59you talking about you always give me
- 01:39:00bodyy vineger thank you Stephen wor
- 01:39:03thank you so much thank you for being
- 01:39:04here I appreciate you thank
- 01:39:09you isn't this cool every single
- 01:39:12conversation I have here on the dire of
- 01:39:14a CE at the very end of it you'll know I
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