THE COLOR OF COVID-19 | Disparate Impact, Inequitable Response | A Town Hall Meeting

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TLDRThe Skoll Foundation hosted a discussion on the impact of COVID-19 on marginalized communities, focusing on structural racism and inequities exacerbated by the pandemic. CEO Don Gips opened the session by highlighting disparities such as black adults aged 35-44 being nine times more likely to die from COVID-19 than white adults, and Native Americans being eight times more likely to die. The event featured researchers, activists, and social innovators who discussed the dire state of disparities within healthcare and other systems, all rooted in structural racism and historic injustices. Cheryl Dorsey, President of Echoing Green, emphasized investing in social entrepreneurs through the Racial Equity Fund to dismantle structural racism. Dr. Mary Bassett and Dr. Eric Broat discussed the need for structural solutions and the resilience of indigenous populations, respectively. The session also included discussions on the challenges within the criminal justice system exacerbated by the pandemic, with recommendations for improving safety and transparency. The importance of collective action, systemic change, and the critical role of love in activism and philanthropy were recurring themes.

A retenir

  • ๐ŸŒ The pandemic exposed global inequities, emphasizing structural injustices.
  • ๐Ÿ“Š Black adults are significantly more likely to die from COVID-19 than white adults in the US.
  • ๐Ÿ‘ฅ Collaborative efforts are critical to addressing racial disparities and systemic racism.
  • ๐Ÿ“‹ Dr. Mary Bassett calls for structural changes like paid sick leave and affordable housing.
  • ๐Ÿ  Indigenous resilience shows historical survival amidst repeated pandemics and challenges.
  • ๐Ÿ“‰ Criminal justice reform is needed to address COVID-19 impacts in correctional facilities.
  • ๐Ÿ’ก Echoing Green's Racial Equity Fund supports social innovation to dismantle racism.
  • ๐Ÿ—ฃ๏ธ Cultural messaging is essential for effective public health communication.
  • ๐Ÿ’ช Love and solidarity are powerful tools for change within communities.
  • ๐Ÿ› ๏ธ Systemic change requires investment in marginalized communities' leaders.

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  • 00:00:00 - 00:05:00

    Don Gips introduces a convening to address global challenges, emphasizing the inequities revealed by COVID-19, especially in racial disparities. He acknowledges partners and highlights the importance of collective action. A poet, Darius Simpson, sets the tone with a piece on systemic inequities exacerbated by the pandemic.

  • 00:05:00 - 00:10:00

    Cheryl Dorsey of Echoing Green outlines the Racial Equity Fund's mission to dismantle structural racism and highlights partnerships for inclusive economies. She emphasizes indigenous land acknowledgment and collaboration with New Profit and Indian Collective to promote equity and justice.

  • 00:10:00 - 00:15:00

    Tulane Montgomery from New Profit stresses the importance of love and action in philanthropy to tackle serious challenges. Nick Tilson from Indian Collective discusses systemic issues unveiled by the pandemic and the need to build indigenous power and collective liberation. They both emphasize the present crisis and the need for transformative action.

  • 00:15:00 - 00:20:00

    Cheryl Dorsey reflects on the rising COVID-19 cases and mortality. Historical references frame the discussion on systemic racism and its impact on pandemic disparities. Dr. Mary Bassett delves into racial disparities in health, emphasizing the structural origins of these inequities and advocating for structural solutions.

  • 00:20:00 - 00:25:00

    Dr. Mary Bassett highlights the early emergence of racial disparities in COVID deaths, criticizing the lack of federal data. She stresses the need for policy changes addressing structural racism and calls for systemic solutions involving the private sector. Collaboration with Reverend Dr. William Barber underscores the moral urgency of addressing these inequities.

  • 00:25:00 - 00:30:00

    Dr. Eric Broat shares insights from indigenous communities, noting how systemic policies have historically marginalized tribal health. He emphasizes indigenous wisdom's power to address challenges, advocating for increased indigenous healthcare workforce and addressing data and staffing shortages in tribal health systems.

  • 00:30:00 - 00:35:00

    Dr. Broat highlights pandemics as part of indigenous history, underscoring resilience and continuity in traditional practices. He emphasizes the need for realistic workforce assessments to address shortages. The importance of intersecting historical trauma with current health crises is stressed.

  • 00:35:00 - 00:40:00

    Sonia Perez of UnidosUS discusses COVID-19's disproportionate impact on Latinos, highlighting children and youth as critical demographics for the nation's future. Community-based networks play vital roles in public health messaging, emergency relief, and economic support, facilitating advocacy rooted in lived local experiences.

  • 00:40:00 - 00:45:00

    UnidosUS adapts its approaches based on community-identified needs during the pandemic, exemplifying innovative local partnerships to address digital divides and health access issues. There's an emphasis on structural inequities across various domains like health, housing, education, and employment, with organized advocacy crucial for systemic change.

  • 00:45:00 - 00:50:00

    Cynthia Choi talks about anti-Asian racism and community response efforts through Stop API Hate, acknowledging the multifaceted pressures of the pandemic. These efforts emphasize community-based solutions prioritizing safety without criminalization, representing a broader anti-racist, solidarity-driven framework among diverse groups.

  • 00:50:00 - 00:55:00

    Commission on COVID-19 and Criminal Justice response recommendations focus on safety, transparency, and data in corrections systems. It highlights gaps in federal and local implementations, exploring reform opportunities to reduce COVID's impact within the justice system.

  • 00:55:00 - 01:00:00

    Efforts in the criminal justice system spotlight de-incarceration trends prompted by grassroots advocacy. The focus is on solutions to systemic issues revealed by the pandemic, promoting alignment of criminal justice with public health goals. The importance of data transparency is reiterated.

  • 01:00:00 - 01:05:00

    Nathaniel Smith discusses systemic flaws in current economic and justice systems, urging alternative community-centered solutions. Emphasis is placed on acknowledging foundational racial injustices and creating equitable economic models. Includes focus on an emergent Southern narrative for equity-led development.

  • 01:05:00 - 01:10:00

    Ernest Boykin shares personal insights as a formerly incarcerated individual adapting to systemic failures exacerbated by COVID. He exposes systemic inadequacies in societal reintegration processes heightened by the pandemic, emphasizing the need for holistic reform centered on inclusivity and opportunity.

  • 01:10:00 - 01:15:00

    Dr. Olajide Williams of Hip Hop Public Health stresses culturally relevant behavior change strategies addressing cognitive and emotional barriers to health in Black communities. He identifies a rising trauma epidemic linked to long-standing social disparities and emphasizes culturally tailored health messaging.

  • 01:15:00 - 01:20:00

    Monique Tula highlights the harm reduction movement's challenges amid COVID-19, focusing on systemic erasure within public health emergency strategies. She stresses the ongoing harms of the war on drugs and the persistent need for harm reduction services, pointing to structural racism and social advocacy as focal points.

  • 01:20:00 - 01:29:09

    Dr. Kim Gallon discusses the role of data and the personal stories behind statistics, particularly regarding virus impact assessments. She highlights โ€˜living dataโ€™ as a method of ensuring cultural and community relevance in understanding COVID-19 effects, emphasizing the need for nuanced narrative approaches beyond raw data.

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  • What was the main focus of Don Gips' opening remarks?

    Don Gips highlighted the inequities exposed by the COVID-19 pandemic, especially in the US, and the urgent need for action and collaboration to address structural racism and injustices.

  • What statistical disparities were highlighted in the presentation?

    The event highlighted disparities such as black adults aged 35-44 being nine times more likely to die from COVID-19 compared to white adults, and Native Americans being eight times more likely to die.

  • Who participated in the discussion?

    The discussion featured leading researchers, activists, social innovators, and partners like NDN Collective and New Profit.

  • What is the Racial Equity Fund by Echoing Green?

    Echoing Green's Racial Equity Fund focuses on dismantling structural racism and building inclusive economies by launching and scaling social enterprises focused on racial equity.

  • What is the significance of the poem by Darius Simpson?

    The poem aimed to set the tone for the discussion by highlighting systemic inequities exposed by COVID-19, asking critical questions about health care access, treatment of essential workers, and systemic racism.

  • How did the COVID-19 pandemic differ in its impact on various racial groups according to the speakers?

    The pandemic had a disproportionate impact on people of color, with higher mortality rates among black, Indigenous, Latinx, and Asian and Pacific Islander communities compared to white communities.

  • What solution did Dr. Mary Bassett discuss for addressing racial disparities?

    Dr. Mary Bassett discussed the need for structural solutions such as paid sick leave, health insurance, affordable housing, and better access to living wages and the labor market for communities of color.

  • What is the perspective of Dr. Eric Broat regarding pandemics and indigenous communities?

    Dr. Eric Broat contextualized the pandemic by highlighting the historical challenges indigenous communities have faced, showing resilience and continued cultural practices as a means of survival.

  • What recommendations did the Council on Criminal Justice provide for handling COVID-19 in the criminal justice system?

    Recommendations included going beyond CDC guidelines, transparent communication, universal masking, frequent testing, limiting contact, and involving impacted communities in decision-making.

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  • 00:00:04
    Welcome everyone
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    I'm Don Gips,
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    the CEO of the Skoll Foundation
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    and one of my greatest privileges
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    is to participate in convenings like this
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    that provoke us to think critically and act urgently
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    to address the biggest challenges of our day.
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    The COVID-19 pandemic
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    has exposed the inequities and weakness
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    of unjust and unsustainable systems globally.
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    This has been especially true in the US.
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    There are a few statistics that really bring this to life.
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    In the US, black adults between the ages of 35 and 44
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    are nine times more likely to die from COVID-19
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    than white adults.
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    Native Americans are eight times more likely to die
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    than white adults.
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    The pandemic has made it glaringly clear
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    that we may all be in the same storm,
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    but we're not in the same boat.
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    These disparate health outcomes
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    are deeply rooted in structural racism
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    and historic injustices.
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    Today, we'll hear from some of the leading researchers,
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    activists, social innovators,
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    working at the intersection of racial justice
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    and the COVID-19 pandemic.
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    I'd like to give special thanks
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    to our convening partners,
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    NDN Collective and New Profit
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    for their engagement and collaboration on this event.
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    We're blessed to have them as partners
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    and it will take all of us,
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    shoulder to shoulder working together
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    to address the challenges we're discussing today.
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    We'd like to share a short video
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    featuring poet Darius Simpson
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    to help set the tone
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    and offer some context for the discussion that comes ahead.
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    COVID-19 shook the world to its core
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    or kicked up a familiar dust
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    or coughed up what's been resting
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    in the diaphragm of the United States for centuries.
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    Coronavirus broke headlines as a global pandemic
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    while 2020 was still getting its bearings.
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    You might think in a time of social distancing
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    while many of us face an issue
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    that is incapable of discriminating,
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    that we are finally in this together.
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    Yet there are communities
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    who are more drastically impacted,
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    even by a virus that promises nothing,
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    except that it is equally contagious
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    regardless of skin color.
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    Perhaps a virus need not discriminate
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    if the humans it is infecting
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    have created systems that do the discriminating for it.
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    If we are advised that are safest place is inside,
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    then what of the people without an inside?
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    If we must distance from even family,
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    then what of the families who live in no bedroom apartments
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    stacked on top of each other?
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    If school has moved from classrooms to the kitchen table,
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    then what of the students without kitchen tables?
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    I had one shift where I saw about 84 patients.
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    The first 21 days-
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    Maybe this virus
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    has illuminated an age old inequity in this country
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    with mortality rates 6.7 times higher for black people,
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    four times higher for indigenous folks,
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    2.5 times higher for Latin X humans,
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    and 2.6 times higher for Asian and Pacific Islanders.
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    Perhaps now is not the time for answers
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    but for questions
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    like how might we even the playing field?
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    Where are the gaps and needs?
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    Which humans have access to which health care?
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    Who can afford to work from home?
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    Why are essential workers being called heroes
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    but not being paid like heroes?
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    What will happen
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    when they are no longer considered essential?
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    What if we acted in solidarity with our most vulnerable?
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    What if black and Latin X people
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    didn't comprise 56% of the prison population?
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    What if there was no prison to populate?
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    What if no one was disposable
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    and the virus couldn't recycle itself
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    in the imaginations of the rich?
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    And what if we just stopped for a second
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    to consider all the sickness that existed before,
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    to consider how we might start healing those systems,
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    to consider the color of COVID?
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    Let me now have the great pleasure
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    of introducing Cheryl Dorsey,
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    president of Echoing Green.
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    We're so proud to have invested
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    in Echoing Green's Racial Equity Fund
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    that leverages social innovation
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    to dismantle structural racism
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    and build inclusive economies.
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    The fund will launch and scale 500 social enterprises
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    focused on racial equity
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    and break down barriers to capital
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    that social entrepreneurs
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    and innovators of color face globally.
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    We see it as a critical investment
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    in the next generation of leaders
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    who will help dismantle
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    the root causes of racial, inequity, and injustice.
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    I'm also happy to say
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    that Cheryl is the new member of the Skoll Foundation Board.
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    She's been a teacher of mine for a long time
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    and brings a wealth of wisdom
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    to how to drive true transformational change
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    through social innovation.
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    As Skoll continues its journey
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    working with proximate social innovators
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    across sectors to help advance racial justice and equity,
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    I can't think of a better leader from us to hear from.
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    Cheryl, over to you.
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    Thank you so much, Don.
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    Really appreciate those kind words.
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    Also want to send a big thanks
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    to the entire Skoll family,
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    Jeff, the staff, the entire board.
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    It's been an honor
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    to begin to work more closely with you all,
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    a true honor, especially in this moment.
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    Also want to thank our convening partners
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    New Profit and Indian Collective,
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    and to all of those who've joined us today
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    for this important conversation.
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    And I must say greetings from Washington, DC,
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    a rainy Washington, DC.
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    But to open,
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    I would like to humbly make a land acknowledgement.
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    I would like to start
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    by recognizing and acknowledging
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    the indigenous people of the land where I now sit,
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    the Nacotchtank.
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    The name is derived
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    from the word
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    meaning a town of traders.
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    And I know that while a land acknowledgement is not enough
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    it is an important social justice and decolonial practice
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    that promotes indigenous visibility
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    and a reminder that we were all settled on indigenous land.
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    Let this land acknowledgement be an opening for all of us
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    to contemplate a way to join
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    in decolonial and indigenous movements
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    for sovereignty and self-determination.
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    And as we turn to our discussion now,
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    if you'll indulge me a few housekeeping notes.
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    I'm gonna ask that everyone remain on mute
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    to minimize background noise.
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    Please feel free to enter your questions
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    for all of our wonderful speakers
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    using the Q and A box on the bottom of your screen.
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    Please note that our speakers may refer to references
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    during their talk.
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    Someone is going to link them in the chat feature.
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    So please be on the lookout for those materials.
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    And of course, feel free to chat in real time
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    with other audience members in the chat box on the right.
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    We may be virtual, but we're here together
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    and we're in conversation.
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    Representatives of each of our convening partners,
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    as Don mentioned
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    are here with us today and will now say a few words.
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    First, we'd love to hear from Tulane Montgomery
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    and then Nick Tilson.
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    Thank you so much, Cheryl,
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    and so good to be here with all of you
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    tuning in from all over the planet
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    to have this important and timely conversation.
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    My name is Tulane Montgomery.
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    I'm managing partner of New Profit.
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    We are so proud and honored
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    to be convening partners
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    with Skoll Foundation and Indian Collective.
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    And I just want to offer a quick note.
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    So New Profit is a philanthropy,
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    Skoll is a philanthropy, Echoing Green,
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    and I want to offer a little reminder
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    of the roots of philanthropy.
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    If you look into the etymology
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    of the word philanthropy,
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    it means to love humankind.
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    And I want to offer that as a reminder
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    and a frame for this conversation
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    because when the stakes are as high as they are today,
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    when the fight is as serious as it is right now,
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    sometimes talking about love
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    can feel like a cop out, right?
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    But I would offer that love is not for the weak willed
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    or the simple minded.
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    Love requires bravery, courage,
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    clarity, honesty, and genius.
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    And so we're gonna have this conversation
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    with the intent that we will gather enough information
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    and unearth the questions that enable us in philanthropy
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    to really lead with love as the impact that we have.
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    And so I'm so excited to be here with all of you today
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    and look forward to this conversation.
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    It couldn't come at a more important time.
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    My name's Nick Tilson,
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    in my Lakota language.
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    I'm the president and CEO of the Indian Collective.
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    Indian Collective is honored and excited
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    to be partnering with New Profit, with the Skoll Foundation.
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    Some of these relationships are really new
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    over this past year.
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    And so we're honored to be here
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    having this very important conversation
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    that we're gonna be having.
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    And I think that the part of the poem
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    that you got to hear at the beginning
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    was this crisis that we're in
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    and this pandemic that we're in
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    has uncovered and unearthed systemic issues
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    throughout our communities and throughout this country,
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    and really hitting at the core
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    of the challenges that we're faced with.
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    And so Indian Collective is a national organization
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    dedicated to building indigenous power
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    and changing the conditions
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    in which the way indigenous self-determination is supported
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    is honored to be partnered in having this conversation
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    You're gonna be able to hear from Eric
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    and other indigenous leaders in having
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    this fruitful conversation
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    about not only the struggles that we're in today
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    but where we could be going
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    and how we can actually collect the building power
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    solving problems and leaning in
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    towards collective liberation in the future.
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    So we're honored to be partnered on this event
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    and honored to be pivoting at this time in history.
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    Because I think that many years from now,
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    we will look back at this time in the history
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    and we'll be asking what did we do?
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    What did we contribute to that time?
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    And so here we are.
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    So honored to be here and have a good session, everybody.
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    Tulane, Nick, thank you both so much
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    and raising up contents of both love and crisis, right?
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    Because Nick, you're right,
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    we are in a moment of crisis in this country.
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    You know, today we are going to surpass
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    nine million cases of COVID-19
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    and we will have lost almost 229,000 of our fellow citizens
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    by this evening.
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    The epidemic is getting worse in 47 of 50 states
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    and we lost more than 1,000 souls yesterday alone.
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    The death rates are rising again.
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    You know, professor of history and history of medicine,
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    Frank Snowden said,
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    "to study pandemics is to understand a society structure,
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    its standard of living, its political priorities.
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    The disproportionate impact of COVID-19 on people of color,
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    the higher burdens of cases and deaths,
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    is an indictment and one that elucidates
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    the impacts of structural racism on communities of color."
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    That's what we're here to talk about today.
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    Let me start by welcoming our first speaker,
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    Dr. Mary Bassett,
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    to talk more about these racial inequities and their drivers
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    after she introduces herself.
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    Dr. Bassett?
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    Thanks very much, Cheryl.
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    It's such an honor to be here.
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    I want to thank the Skoll Foundation
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    and I'm so pleased to be here with all the other panelists.
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    So I'm Dr. Mary Bassett.
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    I direct a center called the Franรงois-Xavier Bagnoud or FXB
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    Center for Health and Human Rights at Harvard University.
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    And I have a longstanding interest
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    in racial disparities in health.
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    We've heard the numbers
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    and I feel that I should begin, as others have.
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    And Helen you're from Massachusetts.
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    We're on land which was previously occupied
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    by the Wampanoag people and others.
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    It's hard for us to remember in our daily lives
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    because this population has been so reduced
  • 00:13:16
    that there are 600 federally recognized
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    and other indigenous groups who have survived
  • 00:13:23
    and are among us still.
  • 00:13:25
    So we have been looking at the early emergence
  • 00:13:31
    of racial disparities in COVID mortality and case rates.
  • 00:13:35
    And it's shown what everyone's already heard,
  • 00:13:39
    that it's abundantly clear that this country,
  • 00:13:41
    the wealthiest and one of the most
  • 00:13:43
    medically advanced countries in the world
  • 00:13:45
    has utterly failed to control this pandemic
  • 00:13:49
    and the vulnerabilities preexisted COVID-19,
  • 00:13:54
    preexisted the current administration.
  • 00:13:56
    And we're seeing huge gaps.
  • 00:13:59
    So among black people between the ages of 35 and 44
  • 00:14:04
    our research shows a nine fold increased risk of death.
  • 00:14:09
    This increased risk in young people
  • 00:14:11
    is related to everyday life,
  • 00:14:14
    not to inadequate bodies.
  • 00:14:17
    It's related to people who are still working,
  • 00:14:20
    people who are still traveling on crowded transport,
  • 00:14:24
    people who are going home
  • 00:14:25
    to crowded multi-generational households.
  • 00:14:28
    And we need to talk about that before we start talking
  • 00:14:32
    about the problems of diabetes and heart disease.
  • 00:14:36
    Dr. Bassett, can you talk about
  • 00:14:40
    some of the data that your organization had collected?
  • 00:14:47
    And then can you sort of unpack what that means?
  • 00:14:49
    And then we only have a few minutes with you,
  • 00:14:52
    some of the policy solutions that will help us
  • 00:14:56
    sort of cross over to the other side of this.
  • 00:14:59
    So as you know, the best sort of data during this pandemic
  • 00:15:03
    has been coming from journalists,
  • 00:15:05
    particularly the print media.
  • 00:15:06
    And this is an indictment
  • 00:15:08
    of what's happened to our public health authorities.
  • 00:15:11
    The CDC has been effectively muzzled,
  • 00:15:13
    and we learned in March
  • 00:15:15
    of the excess African-American mortality.
  • 00:15:17
    The data weren't available by race
  • 00:15:19
    from the federal government.
  • 00:15:21
    But when they became available, we analyzed them
  • 00:15:24
    and they show what you've already heard.
  • 00:15:27
    Three, four fold times higher risk of death,
  • 00:15:30
    and much extremely high risk of death among younger adults
  • 00:15:36
    who are black, Latin X, and indigenous.
  • 00:15:40
    Now it's important to interpret these data correctly.
  • 00:15:45
    The fact that they are so large,
  • 00:15:47
    that they emerged so quickly,
  • 00:15:49
    suggests that they're structural in origin
  • 00:15:51
    and they need structural solutions.
  • 00:15:54
    People often say, we can't do these,
  • 00:15:56
    they're too complicated.
  • 00:15:56
    They mean things like having paid sick leave,
  • 00:15:59
    health insurance, affordable housing,
  • 00:16:01
    addressing the longstanding inadequate access
  • 00:16:06
    to the labor market
  • 00:16:08
    and the access to living wage for people of color.
  • 00:16:13
    And these are things actually that the private sector
  • 00:16:17
    may be more agile at addressing
  • 00:16:21
    and should figure out
  • 00:16:22
    that this is worth their while to address
  • 00:16:25
    because the cost of not addressing it
  • 00:16:27
    is paid in human lives.
  • 00:16:29
    No, I appreciate that, Dr. Bassett,
  • 00:16:31
    and I've heard you say that we've got to move
  • 00:16:34
    beyond the individual to the structural
  • 00:16:35
    and sort of laying out some of these policy prescriptions
  • 00:16:38
    is quite important.
  • 00:16:39
    But I appreciate you as a researcher, as a clinician,
  • 00:16:44
    but also as a moral agent
  • 00:16:46
    that's bringing a sense of urgency.
  • 00:16:48
    I know that you've done some work
  • 00:16:49
    with Reverend Dr. William Barber,
  • 00:16:51
    who's co-chair of the Poor People's Campaign.
  • 00:16:53
    And I was rereading a piece you all coauthored in June
  • 00:16:56
    for the nation called, "Systemic Racism is Social Dynamite".
  • 00:17:00
    Tell us more about your work together
  • 00:17:01
    and what you mean by this.
  • 00:17:03
    Well, we just had a convening
  • 00:17:05
    with Reverend Barber and his co-chair
  • 00:17:07
    of the Poor People's Campaign.
  • 00:17:10
    And as you know,
  • 00:17:10
    they focus on the problem of systemic racism, poverty,
  • 00:17:14
    our ecological destruction and more.
  • 00:17:18
    And before we wrap up,
  • 00:17:19
    I got to ask you to back up so we can see your tee shirt.
  • 00:17:24
    Reverend Barber would ask me to do that.
  • 00:17:26
    Can you see it?
  • 00:17:28
    No, we can't.
  • 00:17:29
    I can stand up a little bit.
  • 00:17:30
    Thank you.
  • 00:17:31
    That's right, thank you, Dr. Bassett.
  • 00:17:34
    These are issues where we each have an individual role
  • 00:17:40
    but for too long academics,
  • 00:17:42
    people in public health authorities,
  • 00:17:45
    have been reluctant to talk
  • 00:17:47
    about the true underlying facts
  • 00:17:50
    that drive this vulnerability.
  • 00:17:52
    And mean that this wealthy country is accounting
  • 00:17:55
    for less than five percent of the world's population
  • 00:17:58
    as over 20% of the world's cases and rising.
  • 00:18:02
    So Reverend Barber talks about this,
  • 00:18:05
    talks about the cost in the deaths,
  • 00:18:12
    how we interpret death numbers,
  • 00:18:14
    and understand what lies behind them,
  • 00:18:18
    these are the policies
  • 00:18:20
    which have enabled a tiny fraction of our society
  • 00:18:23
    to become incredibly wealthy,
  • 00:18:25
    three people controlling the wealth,
  • 00:18:27
    and we know their names,
  • 00:18:29
    of half of the population is incredible
  • 00:18:34
    and those have a cost in death rates.
  • 00:18:38
    So he asks us to go back and he challenges us.
  • 00:18:43
    And I'm proud to have been able to to join him
  • 00:18:47
    in making those challenges.
  • 00:18:49
    So everybody should go to their website and take a look.
  • 00:18:53
    We need data.
  • 00:18:54
    We can't see what's going on without data.
  • 00:18:58
    But we also need to have movements.
  • 00:19:01
    And these are movements
  • 00:19:02
    that should involve not only people of color.
  • 00:19:05
    These are movements that we need to protect all of us.
  • 00:19:09
    And so that's my view on all this.
  • 00:19:15
    It seems out of my lane as a public health expert,
  • 00:19:19
    but we all got to get out of our land
  • 00:19:22
    because COVID-19 is on the open highway.
  • 00:19:26
    No, I appreciate that Dr. Basset,
  • 00:19:28
    and I appreciate sort of
  • 00:19:30
    the intersectional intergenerational interracial nature
  • 00:19:33
    of this conversation.
  • 00:19:35
    And as Reverend Barber talks about
  • 00:19:37
    sort of the need for the moral revival
  • 00:19:39
    that is called for in this moment.
  • 00:19:40
    And I appreciate you.
  • 00:19:41
    I'm sorry we don't have more time.
  • 00:19:43
    But you have teed up our next speaker
  • 00:19:45
    perfectly, Dr. Bassett.
  • 00:19:46
    So thank you so much
  • 00:19:49
    and let me now, thank you so much, really appreciate you.
  • 00:19:53
    And I will turn to your fellow clinician now,
  • 00:19:56
    Dr. Eric Broat,
  • 00:19:58
    a tribal health and inpatient COVID provider.
  • 00:20:01
    Dr. Broat, after you introduce yourself,
  • 00:20:03
    can you talk about how the COVID crisis is playing out
  • 00:20:06
    in your community?
  • 00:20:08
    Oh, good morning.
  • 00:20:09
    Thanks for the opportunity to be here.
  • 00:20:12
    I just want to start
  • 00:20:13
    first by acknowledging the original inhabitants
  • 00:20:15
    of the land that Oregon Health and Science University
  • 00:20:18
    is built upon and occupying.
  • 00:20:20
    I acknowledged the .
  • 00:20:27
    I acknowledge the systemic policies
  • 00:20:29
    of genocide, removal, relocation, and assimilation
  • 00:20:33
    that have and continue to impact
  • 00:20:35
    native communities to this day.
  • 00:20:37
    And I also want to acknowledge that we are all here
  • 00:20:40
    because of the sacrifices forced upon them.
  • 00:20:43
    I work at Oregon Health and Science University.
  • 00:20:45
    I'm a family medicine provider.
  • 00:20:47
    I practice inpatient medicine
  • 00:20:49
    at a large academic health institution as a COVID provider
  • 00:20:53
    but then also work in a tribal health clinic
  • 00:20:55
    in rural frontier central Oregon.
  • 00:20:58
    And then I also lead and direct
  • 00:21:00
    the Northwest Native American Center of Excellence,
  • 00:21:02
    which is an educational initiative
  • 00:21:04
    that believes in the power of indigenous youth
  • 00:21:08
    and believes in the wisdom that we have in our communities
  • 00:21:12
    to solve some of the most pressing challenges
  • 00:21:14
    that are facing the world today.
  • 00:21:17
    And what we aim to do specifically
  • 00:21:19
    is to increase the number of us, indigenous people,
  • 00:21:22
    who are working in the health work force
  • 00:21:24
    and can become the future health leaders of tomorrow.
  • 00:21:28
    You ask an excellent question.
  • 00:21:30
    And I think that it's been alluded to
  • 00:21:33
    in the introductory remarks,
  • 00:21:34
    it was alluded to in the short clip of the video,
  • 00:21:40
    it was also alluded to by the other partners
  • 00:21:44
    who have spoken to this morning
  • 00:21:46
    about how this is a crisis within a crisis.
  • 00:21:50
    And it shows that there are systemic issues that are being,
  • 00:21:55
    they're just laying bare
  • 00:21:58
    how this is gonna disproportionately
  • 00:22:00
    affect certain communities.
  • 00:22:01
    And what's been the hardest thing for me to see is that,
  • 00:22:07
    and to realize, is that it didn't have to be this way.
  • 00:22:10
    You know like we could have had
  • 00:22:13
    clean, safe water for everybody.
  • 00:22:16
    We could have had affordable housing for everybody.
  • 00:22:19
    We could have had access to testing and treatment options
  • 00:22:22
    for more people.
  • 00:22:24
    And I think it's those policies and those decisions
  • 00:22:27
    that have been generations in the making
  • 00:22:29
    that are driving the current circumstances
  • 00:22:31
    that we face today.
  • 00:22:33
    No, Dr. Broat, thank you for that.
  • 00:22:35
    I mean it's sort of what I studied in medical school
  • 00:22:38
    and graduate school as well, right?
  • 00:22:39
    The social determinants of health,
  • 00:22:41
    sort of taking on this not only holistic,
  • 00:22:43
    but historical, what you talk about,
  • 00:22:46
    it's like the nesting doll phenomenon,
  • 00:22:47
    right a crisis within a crisis within a crisis.
  • 00:22:50
    You spend a lot of your time
  • 00:22:51
    thinking about health workforce shortage,
  • 00:22:54
    data collection issues as well
  • 00:22:56
    and how lack of data can lead to invisibility.
  • 00:22:58
    Can you dig in for us a little bit on that, Dr. Broat?
  • 00:23:02
    Well, as far as the health workforce issue
  • 00:23:05
    you know, in the tribal health system,
  • 00:23:08
    which is gonna be urban Indian health,
  • 00:23:11
    sovereign tribal health clinics,
  • 00:23:14
    but then also the Indian health service,
  • 00:23:16
    we have a real challenge
  • 00:23:18
    identifying the health workforce shortages
  • 00:23:20
    that are out there.
  • 00:23:21
    In our region,
  • 00:23:22
    we actually just launched
  • 00:23:26
    the first known tribal health workforce survey
  • 00:23:28
    that's inclusive of all of the constituencies
  • 00:23:33
    within the tribal health system
  • 00:23:34
    and not siloed out.
  • 00:23:35
    And when you look at these issues
  • 00:23:38
    like access to care, right,
  • 00:23:41
    places in the great plains
  • 00:23:43
    or out here in the Pacific northwest,
  • 00:23:45
    we may have some of the most beautiful, expensive facilities
  • 00:23:52
    from the outside, right,
  • 00:23:54
    where you have spent a lot of money and created jobs
  • 00:23:57
    to build this facility,
  • 00:23:59
    yet if you can't staff it,
  • 00:24:01
    and if you don't have any doctors
  • 00:24:02
    for instance, if you've built a large hospital
  • 00:24:05
    that's supposed to serve tribal people,
  • 00:24:08
    yet your ICU isn't staffed
  • 00:24:11
    and it becomes a storage facility,
  • 00:24:13
    how's that gonna help the people?
  • 00:24:15
    Or if you have a large,
  • 00:24:17
    or a really well-built primary care clinic
  • 00:24:21
    but you don't have any doctors that work there,
  • 00:24:24
    how are you gonna provide the care
  • 00:24:26
    to people that are there?
  • 00:24:28
    And I think those are the elements that can be tough
  • 00:24:31
    when you're looking at lack or piosity of data around,
  • 00:24:36
    whether it's the invisibility of indigenous people
  • 00:24:39
    when it comes to having COVID,
  • 00:24:41
    being admitted to the hospital,
  • 00:24:43
    death rates, et cetera,
  • 00:24:44
    the tribes have actually been doing tremendous work
  • 00:24:47
    and the tribal epidemiology centers
  • 00:24:48
    to correct the data
  • 00:24:50
    and make sure that we are seen in the data.
  • 00:24:53
    But then as well, from a workforce standpoint,
  • 00:24:56
    if people don't even know the challenges that exist,
  • 00:24:59
    how can we address them at a policy level?
  • 00:25:01
    And so that's what we're really trying to do out here
  • 00:25:04
    is have an accurate realistic picture
  • 00:25:07
    of what the shortages are so we can do something about it.
  • 00:25:10
    Appreciate that and appreciate you,
  • 00:25:13
    sort of this notion of data justice that is so critical
  • 00:25:17
    to getting beyond this.
  • 00:25:19
    You know, it was interesting when we talked
  • 00:25:21
    and I got to meet you, Dr. Broat,
  • 00:25:22
    I was struck by something you said
  • 00:25:24
    where you said you know, pandemics aren't new to us.
  • 00:25:28
    Can you talk about how you contextualize this moment,
  • 00:25:32
    this storm that we're all navigating through?
  • 00:25:36
    And I think, you know, as COVID has gone on,
  • 00:25:40
    you know, my wife and I, we live here in Portland, Oregon,
  • 00:25:44
    we're both from tribal communities
  • 00:25:46
    and we we plant a traditional garden in our yard
  • 00:25:50
    and we grow those medicines and we grow those foods
  • 00:25:53
    that we eat and we still practice those ways.
  • 00:25:56
    And it hasn't been lost on me
  • 00:25:59
    that our communities have faced tremendous challenges
  • 00:26:02
    in the past,
  • 00:26:04
    whether it's been colonization,
  • 00:26:06
    whether it's been acts of genocide
  • 00:26:09
    or whether it's been epidemics and pandemics.
  • 00:26:11
    And people kept leaning in and thinking of us then
  • 00:26:16
    so that we could be surviving now.
  • 00:26:18
    They continued to plant those foods and those medicine
  • 00:26:22
    and those are things that I draw strength from
  • 00:26:25
    knowing that somebody kept doing that work
  • 00:26:28
    and kept believing in those ways
  • 00:26:31
    and thinking of us in a positive way for the future.
  • 00:26:34
    And as I look at my own family story,
  • 00:26:39
    in the 19 teens like my family,
  • 00:26:44
    there are five people of Spent
  • 00:26:47
    that died during an epidemic in Northern Minnesota.
  • 00:26:50
    And these are stories that have been carried forward
  • 00:26:53
    and we have not forgotten them.
  • 00:26:55
    And so COVID in that sense has also been a painful reminder
  • 00:26:59
    of the things that our ancestors went through.
  • 00:27:03
    And it really wasn't that long ago.
  • 00:27:06
    So those are the ways I think of that
  • 00:27:10
    and that's how I contextualize it personally.
  • 00:27:12
    I appreciate that so much, Dr. Broat,
  • 00:27:13
    and I'm sorry, again, this rich conversation
  • 00:27:17
    that we simply don't have enough time for
  • 00:27:19
    but I will ask our audience.
  • 00:27:20
    I thoroughly enjoyed getting to spend some time
  • 00:27:24
    on the We Are the Healers website
  • 00:27:26
    that shares your story and your leadership example
  • 00:27:29
    as a clinician, as a tribal health leader.
  • 00:27:31
    So appreciate that and appreciate you
  • 00:27:33
    and looking forward to continuing in the Q and A session.
  • 00:27:37
    So thank you, Dr. Broat.
  • 00:27:38
    Now I'm gonna turn to Kaleal Cumberbatch.
  • 00:27:41
    Kaleal, while mistakes are inevitable
  • 00:27:46
    in the face of such a massive and rapidly evolving
  • 00:27:48
    domestic and global challenge,
  • 00:27:50
    I think it is clear that our federal government's
  • 00:27:55
    and some state government's responses to the pandemic
  • 00:27:58
    are marked by massive failures in judgment and inaction.
  • 00:28:02
    And these failures obviously land most heavily
  • 00:28:04
    on vulnerable and marginalized populations,
  • 00:28:07
    including incarcerated citizens.
  • 00:28:09
    And for example,
  • 00:28:10
    we know that the five largest outbreaks in the country
  • 00:28:12
    are linked to correctional facilities.
  • 00:28:14
    You're a senior fellow at the council on criminal justice,
  • 00:28:17
    which launched the national commission
  • 00:28:19
    on COVID-19 and criminal justice.
  • 00:28:22
    Can you first walk us through the genesis of the commission?
  • 00:28:25
    Why was it set up?
  • 00:28:26
    Who's on the commission?
  • 00:28:28
    And some of your key findings on the impact of COVID-19
  • 00:28:31
    on incarcerated citizens and the criminal justice system?
  • 00:28:35
    Thank you, Cheryl
  • 00:28:36
    and thank you to the staff at Skoll,
  • 00:28:38
    Jimmy Briggs in particular for organizing this amazing event
  • 00:28:42
    and his team for making it extremely easy to be here.
  • 00:28:45
    The national commission on COVID-19
  • 00:28:47
    and the criminal justice system
  • 00:28:50
    was established by the Council on Criminal Justice.
  • 00:28:53
    The Council on Criminal Justice is a think tank
  • 00:28:56
    and a membership organization
  • 00:28:57
    that was founded last year by Adam Gell.
  • 00:29:00
    Much like the Council on Foreign Relations,
  • 00:29:03
    the council aims to create a new center of gravity
  • 00:29:07
    for fact-based, evidence-informed
  • 00:29:10
    criminal justice conversations.
  • 00:29:12
    The council launched the commission
  • 00:29:14
    because frankly no one else had.
  • 00:29:17
    There needed to be a serious,
  • 00:29:19
    nonpartisan national conversation
  • 00:29:21
    on how the criminal justice system
  • 00:29:24
    was going to respond to COVID-19.
  • 00:29:26
    And so the council stepped in
  • 00:29:28
    and stepped up to fill the void.
  • 00:29:30
    The commission is led and co-chaired
  • 00:29:33
    by two former attorney generals,
  • 00:29:35
    Loretta Lynch and Alberto Gonzalez,
  • 00:29:37
    along with 11 other leaders
  • 00:29:39
    from the criminal justice area
  • 00:29:42
    who bring various perspectives,
  • 00:29:44
    including public health and public safety.
  • 00:29:47
    In addition, my colleague Thomas Apt
  • 00:29:48
    serves as the director of the commission
  • 00:29:51
    and last month the commission released its recommendations
  • 00:29:54
    for response and future readiness
  • 00:29:56
    offering a series of broad and overlapping recommendations,
  • 00:30:00
    as well as a series of sector-specific recommendations
  • 00:30:04
    covering the sectors of courts, corrections,
  • 00:30:07
    community-based organizations and policing.
  • 00:30:10
    To that end, here are a few of the major recommendations
  • 00:30:14
    the commission has already made.
  • 00:30:17
    One is to go beyond the CDC guidance
  • 00:30:21
    to stop exponential growth of COVID-19
  • 00:30:23
    within the criminal justice system,
  • 00:30:25
    essentially making the CDC guidance the floor
  • 00:30:28
    as opposed to the ceiling.
  • 00:30:30
    Communicate transparently about COVID-19 response plans,
  • 00:30:33
    policies, and more importantly,
  • 00:30:36
    and to some extent of the utmost importance, data.
  • 00:30:39
    As Dr. Bassett mentioned,
  • 00:30:41
    data is something that is very little
  • 00:30:43
    and it's hard to come by,
  • 00:30:45
    especially from major corrections
  • 00:30:48
    agencies all across the country.
  • 00:30:51
    Third, adopt universal masking requirements for all staff
  • 00:30:55
    and impacted population
  • 00:30:57
    when indoors and in close contact with others.
  • 00:31:00
    Four, widely and frequently test staff
  • 00:31:03
    in justice involved populations for COVID-19
  • 00:31:07
    using the most reliable methods available.
  • 00:31:10
    Fifth, limit contact and maximize distance
  • 00:31:13
    and reduce density.
  • 00:31:15
    As we all know, density is one of the major factors
  • 00:31:17
    that COVID-19 plays on to accelerate its spread.
  • 00:31:22
    And last, but certainly not least,
  • 00:31:24
    to actively engage and consider impacted communities
  • 00:31:28
    in all decision-making processes.
  • 00:31:32
    There's a link in the chat
  • 00:31:34
    for folks to check out the full report
  • 00:31:36
    and we hope that that you'll read it
  • 00:31:38
    to learn a little bit more.
  • 00:31:39
    Moving forward, the commission will be releasing
  • 00:31:42
    more recommendations in December
  • 00:31:44
    and these recommendations will be focusing
  • 00:31:47
    more on systemic issues,
  • 00:31:49
    looking to capitalize on the lessons learned
  • 00:31:52
    and to really try to envision
  • 00:31:55
    post-pandemic criminal justice system
  • 00:31:57
    that is way more better aligned
  • 00:32:00
    with public health and public safety
  • 00:32:02
    than the current one that we have.
  • 00:32:03
    Thank you, Kaleal.
  • 00:32:04
    Can I ask, has the current administration
  • 00:32:06
    and even agencies at the state and local level,
  • 00:32:09
    have they been receptive
  • 00:32:11
    and have any of the recommendations you just laid out for us
  • 00:32:14
    been adopted and implemented?
  • 00:32:17
    Yeah, we would,
  • 00:32:19
    we've been sharing our report and its findings
  • 00:32:22
    and its recommendations widely
  • 00:32:24
    with quite literally any and everyone.
  • 00:32:27
    That's a key role of myself
  • 00:32:28
    and one of my colleagues, Andrew Page
  • 00:32:30
    To our knowledge,
  • 00:32:32
    so far we don't know of any entities
  • 00:32:37
    that have implemented any of the recommendations
  • 00:32:40
    that we laid forth in the report.
  • 00:32:44
    However, you know, it's extremely difficult
  • 00:32:47
    to get states and localities all on the same page,
  • 00:32:50
    and especially with the absence
  • 00:32:52
    of strong federal leadership.
  • 00:32:53
    And so more importantly, what we would hope,
  • 00:32:56
    is that those entities are focusing
  • 00:32:59
    on producing and reporting data
  • 00:33:03
    that would help to give us a better idea
  • 00:33:05
    of what the best practices are.
  • 00:33:07
    And unfortunately, we don't see that right now.
  • 00:33:11
    Right.
  • 00:33:12
    So I was talking a couple of weeks ago.
  • 00:33:16
    I'm looking, in this moment, Kaleal,
  • 00:33:17
    for bright spots, right?
  • 00:33:19
    So I was talking a couple of weeks ago
  • 00:33:21
    with an Echoing Green fellow,
  • 00:33:23
    fellow Echoing Green fellow, Van Jones
  • 00:33:25
    and he's with Reform Alliance
  • 00:33:26
    and he was sort of giving me an update
  • 00:33:28
    on the alliance's safer plans acronym,
  • 00:33:31
    which sort of talks about many of the recommendations
  • 00:33:34
    that your organization laid out.
  • 00:33:36
    But in particularly he was talking
  • 00:33:37
    about the push and success
  • 00:33:39
    around releasing elderly and the vulnerable
  • 00:33:42
    to home confinement, right,
  • 00:33:44
    just to get them out of those dense spaces, as you said.
  • 00:33:46
    Can you talk about any other bright spots
  • 00:33:48
    that you're seeing?
  • 00:33:50
    Right the grassroots energy
  • 00:33:51
    around protecting our fellow incarcerated citizens?
  • 00:33:55
    Yeah, sure.
  • 00:33:56
    I mean I think one of the silver linings,
  • 00:33:59
    if we can call it that,
  • 00:34:00
    that came out of the way that COVID-19
  • 00:34:02
    just completely ravaged the criminal justice system
  • 00:34:05
    is that we are seeing municipalities, states,
  • 00:34:08
    and to some extent the federal government,
  • 00:34:10
    do exactly what many advocates were calling for
  • 00:34:13
    in some cases for decades,
  • 00:34:15
    which is essentially to rapidly decarcerate
  • 00:34:17
    or to deconcentrate the criminal justice system.
  • 00:34:20
    And so one of the ways of doing that
  • 00:34:23
    is the one that you mentioned,
  • 00:34:24
    that Van and the Reform Alliance had laid out.
  • 00:34:26
    But there are many more,
  • 00:34:27
    particularly in the pretrial phase
  • 00:34:29
    of a person's involvement in the criminal justice system.
  • 00:34:31
    And for those who may not be aware,
  • 00:34:33
    pre-trial is essentially the phase
  • 00:34:35
    where a person is legally innocent,
  • 00:34:36
    as we all have the legal and constitutional right
  • 00:34:39
    to be viewed as innocent before guilty.
  • 00:34:42
    And we've seen some municipalities
  • 00:34:45
    drop their jail population by 50% in a matter of months.
  • 00:34:50
    And this is a notion
  • 00:34:52
    that those same municipalities and many across the country
  • 00:34:56
    said were almost impossible.
  • 00:34:57
    And it was due largely
  • 00:35:00
    because of the grassroots efforts
  • 00:35:02
    that were largely putting those options
  • 00:35:04
    in front of those municipalities in those states,
  • 00:35:07
    again, for sometimes decades
  • 00:35:09
    before we actually saw it done
  • 00:35:11
    over the course of the months from March
  • 00:35:13
    until, to some extent, August.
  • 00:35:16
    That's extraordinarily important,
  • 00:35:18
    really appreciate you raising that Kaleal.
  • 00:35:20
    I wish we had more time.
  • 00:35:21
    This is such an important topic,
  • 00:35:23
    but appreciate you dropping in the study
  • 00:35:25
    with recommendations
  • 00:35:26
    and we'll look forward to hearing more
  • 00:35:28
    about what the council is up to.
  • 00:35:31
    So thank you so much for that.
  • 00:35:33
    Now I'm gonna turn to our next speaker, Sonia Perez,
  • 00:35:36
    who is COO of UnidosUS,
  • 00:35:38
    formerly National Council of La Raza.
  • 00:35:41
    UnidosUS is the nation's largest
  • 00:35:43
    Latino civil rights and advocacy organization.
  • 00:35:46
    Sonia, you sit on top of an extraordinary network
  • 00:35:50
    and you are seeing and hearing a lot as well as doing a lot.
  • 00:35:52
    Can you talk to us about the disparate impact of COVID-19
  • 00:35:55
    on Latinos in the US?
  • 00:35:57
    Yes, absolutely.
  • 00:35:58
    And thank you again, Cheryl, for this conversation,
  • 00:36:01
    to Skoll, to all the panelists.
  • 00:36:03
    It's really powerful for all of us to come together
  • 00:36:06
    and I know we feel a tremendous responsibility
  • 00:36:08
    for the communities that we serve
  • 00:36:10
    and for creating the kind of world we want to live in
  • 00:36:13
    and ensuring equity among these communities.
  • 00:36:16
    So this is work UnidosUS
  • 00:36:18
    has been doing for more than five decades
  • 00:36:20
    and really seeing firsthand right
  • 00:36:23
    the structural inequalities across issues, right?
  • 00:36:27
    It isn't just about health,
  • 00:36:28
    it's housing, it's economic and employment opportunities,
  • 00:36:31
    it's education.
  • 00:36:32
    So we are not surprised, frankly,
  • 00:36:36
    having seen the impact of COVID on the Latino community.
  • 00:36:39
    We're about 19% of the US population
  • 00:36:42
    and yet about 37% of COVID cases nationwide
  • 00:36:47
    are among Latinos, among children in particular.
  • 00:36:50
    It's a huge concern because we're seeing deaths
  • 00:36:54
    among children age five to 17,
  • 00:36:57
    among Latino children, again, facing COVID
  • 00:37:01
    it's about 37% of deaths among children are Latino.
  • 00:37:04
    So we're seeing the implications on this population,
  • 00:37:08
    which is a critical,
  • 00:37:09
    it's not just for the Latino population,
  • 00:37:11
    it's for the country, right,
  • 00:37:13
    we're a young population,
  • 00:37:14
    we're about one in five Americans.
  • 00:37:16
    So the future of the country
  • 00:37:18
    really rests on the economic and wellbeing of Latinos.
  • 00:37:21
    And I would say
  • 00:37:22
    that the community-based network in particular
  • 00:37:25
    that we work with,
  • 00:37:26
    affiliates across the country and in Puerto Rico,
  • 00:37:29
    and we should talk about Puerto Rico
  • 00:37:31
    and the experience of COVID there as well.
  • 00:37:34
    But these are organizations
  • 00:37:36
    that are serving on the front lines,
  • 00:37:38
    really have the experience
  • 00:37:40
    of seeing how COVID is affecting our community
  • 00:37:43
    and also have pivoted to be able to provide services
  • 00:37:46
    and do what is needed
  • 00:37:48
    in the absence of a federal coordinated response.
  • 00:37:52
    I'd love to dig into that if you don't mind.
  • 00:37:55
    So now I know
  • 00:37:56
    that you, you have such a broad network, you know
  • 00:37:59
    hundreds and hundreds of organizations
  • 00:38:00
    that are part of your national network.
  • 00:38:02
    And as you look across the country,
  • 00:38:04
    can you share some place-based examples
  • 00:38:06
    of how civic organizations are standing in the breach,
  • 00:38:09
    whether at the border, middle of the country,
  • 00:38:11
    big urban areas?
  • 00:38:12
    Would love to hear some again some bright spots, Sonia.
  • 00:38:16
    Sure, well, I do think
  • 00:38:17
    that one of the lessons we've learned
  • 00:38:18
    is from listening to these organizations,
  • 00:38:21
    listening to our affiliate network
  • 00:38:22
    and understanding what they're seeing,
  • 00:38:25
    but also using that information to shape our responses.
  • 00:38:28
    So for example, they talked very early on
  • 00:38:31
    about the need for money, more resources for the community.
  • 00:38:34
    So we did set up an Esperanza Hope Fund, as we called it,
  • 00:38:38
    to do a focus on public health messaging,
  • 00:38:41
    for example, in dual language,
  • 00:38:43
    and I would refer folks to our website, unidosus.org.
  • 00:38:46
    We do have a toolkit and a bunch of materials,
  • 00:38:50
    again, developed in coordination with these organizations,
  • 00:38:53
    specifically around messaging
  • 00:38:55
    that works for the Latino community.
  • 00:38:57
    So using the resources of the Hope Fund
  • 00:39:01
    to do public health messaging
  • 00:39:02
    and to target the community,
  • 00:39:04
    to support these organizations with resources for them,
  • 00:39:07
    to provide cash assistance
  • 00:39:10
    to do emergency relief, to pivot
  • 00:39:12
    from what they were doing
  • 00:39:13
    to then now provide food banks
  • 00:39:16
    and to provide health services and testing, et cetera,
  • 00:39:19
    and also to do national advocacy.
  • 00:39:21
    So using the information that we learned
  • 00:39:23
    and listening to them, learning from them,
  • 00:39:26
    being able to elevate their stories and what they've done.
  • 00:39:28
    So, for example, in Chicago,
  • 00:39:31
    on the South side of Chicago,
  • 00:39:32
    Esperanza Health Centers very early on
  • 00:39:35
    used a data-based and driven approach,
  • 00:39:38
    which we all hear
  • 00:39:40
    is critical to solving this problem
  • 00:39:42
    and understanding taking a particular community
  • 00:39:45
    where they were working tracking the positivity rate
  • 00:39:48
    and doing testing in order to reduce the positivity rate
  • 00:39:51
    and communicating that to the community, right?
  • 00:39:54
    The science and the knowledge and the facts that we have
  • 00:39:58
    can be translated
  • 00:39:59
    so that everybody can understand what it means
  • 00:40:01
    and how they can protect themselves.
  • 00:40:02
    You provide the information,
  • 00:40:04
    communities will protect themselves.
  • 00:40:06
    This same organization is now engaged
  • 00:40:08
    in educating and informing the community
  • 00:40:11
    about the importance of vaccine trials.
  • 00:40:13
    So, you know, that's just one example
  • 00:40:15
    of one small community.
  • 00:40:16
    I would also point to Reading, Pennsylvania
  • 00:40:18
    as another place where some innovative leadership
  • 00:40:22
    was taking place
  • 00:40:23
    with one of our affiliate executive directors
  • 00:40:25
    who reached out to us
  • 00:40:27
    to share the concern
  • 00:40:28
    about the fact that kids are being remote,
  • 00:40:31
    you know, remote learning is happening
  • 00:40:32
    and yet in Reading, Pennsylvania,
  • 00:40:34
    90% of the kids in that school district are Latino
  • 00:40:38
    and yet did not have all,
  • 00:40:39
    they did not have access to the internet,
  • 00:40:41
    did not have the digital devices.
  • 00:40:45
    This organization, the Hispanic Center of Reading
  • 00:40:48
    knows that we work with Comcast.
  • 00:40:49
    So we coordinated a conversation
  • 00:40:51
    between Comcast Reading, the Reading School District
  • 00:40:55
    and this affiliate.
  • 00:40:57
    And as a result, they were able to do an agreement
  • 00:41:00
    to ensure that 10,000 students
  • 00:41:02
    have now access to the internet
  • 00:41:03
    and to these devices.
  • 00:41:05
    So there are ways that you can address the local issues
  • 00:41:08
    by listening to what's happening at the community,
  • 00:41:11
    but also looking for opportunities for partnership, right?
  • 00:41:14
    It isn't just about one organization
  • 00:41:16
    or one entity or one sector addressing this.
  • 00:41:20
    It's really all of us coming together.
  • 00:41:21
    And I think we're seeing that clearly
  • 00:41:23
    from the examples in these communities.
  • 00:41:25
    No, I so appreciate you raising that up,
  • 00:41:27
    sort of the sine qua non of social innovation
  • 00:41:30
    is sort of this alliance-based model for change, right,
  • 00:41:33
    bringing together partnerships and collaborations
  • 00:41:35
    that drive change.
  • 00:41:36
    So appreciate that.
  • 00:41:38
    Don't have a lot of time left, Sonia,
  • 00:41:40
    but given just the import of the work
  • 00:41:42
    and leadership of UnidosUS,
  • 00:41:44
    can you talk about how this crisis, the pandemic,
  • 00:41:47
    has sort of shaped the organization's thinking
  • 00:41:50
    around equity considerations?
  • 00:41:51
    Has it changed their policy, agenda you're organizing?
  • 00:41:54
    I'm just curious how you all are navigating this moment.
  • 00:41:57
    Yeah, I think this is the moment.
  • 00:41:59
    I mean, this year, we're all experiencing this,
  • 00:42:01
    the refocus and importance of elevating conversations
  • 00:42:04
    around racism, around racial injustice,
  • 00:42:09
    around structural racism and inequities that we've,
  • 00:42:12
    again, we've been working on these issues
  • 00:42:13
    for more than five decades
  • 00:42:15
    and it isn't just happening in one place,
  • 00:42:17
    it's happening across different issues.
  • 00:42:19
    And we can, I think, take this moment and this opportunity
  • 00:42:23
    to expand the conversation
  • 00:42:25
    about what does it mean that we're a nation that's changing,
  • 00:42:28
    demographics are changing,
  • 00:42:30
    that we need to think about how racism
  • 00:42:32
    affects different communities of color.
  • 00:42:35
    And also in the case of Latinos,
  • 00:42:37
    again, because of the size of the population,
  • 00:42:40
    you know, 20% of the US population is Latino,
  • 00:42:45
    young population, the future of our country
  • 00:42:46
    in terms of workers and taxpayers.
  • 00:42:48
    So we need to broaden the conversation
  • 00:42:50
    to think about what does it mean for this community.
  • 00:42:53
    And really once we're looking at issues of equity,
  • 00:42:56
    it isn't just affecting our communities of color.
  • 00:42:58
    It's about creating the country that we want
  • 00:43:00
    and how we all benefit from that.
  • 00:43:03
    No, so appreciate that Sonia.
  • 00:43:05
    Never has that felt more important
  • 00:43:07
    than in this moment on this day
  • 00:43:10
    when we're looking to election day
  • 00:43:11
    just a few short days from now.
  • 00:43:13
    So appreciate you, appreciate those remarks.
  • 00:43:15
    Thank you so much.
  • 00:43:16
    I'm gonna turn to the last speaker in this segment,
  • 00:43:19
    Cynthia Troy.
  • 00:43:20
    Hi Cynthia.
  • 00:43:22
    You know, I have to say I've known of
  • 00:43:24
    and followed your work at Chinese for Affirmative Action
  • 00:43:27
    because your co-executive director, Vincent Pan,
  • 00:43:29
    is an Echoing Green alum.
  • 00:43:31
    So LA have long appreciated your work.
  • 00:43:34
    And I also know that long before the pandemic,
  • 00:43:36
    you all were organizing the Chinese American community
  • 00:43:40
    to participate in mass rallies and vigils
  • 00:43:42
    in response to rising xenophobia
  • 00:43:44
    and white nationalism in San Francisco's Chinatown.
  • 00:43:48
    Can you talk about this moment,
  • 00:43:50
    which is not at all new for your constituents,
  • 00:43:53
    but magnified and complicated
  • 00:43:55
    by the impacts of this disease?
  • 00:43:58
    Thank you, Cheryl and thanks for this opportunity
  • 00:44:02
    to talk about the disparate impact
  • 00:44:05
    on the Asian-American community.
  • 00:44:07
    So as the panelists have articulated well,
  • 00:44:11
    I think COVID has really exposed
  • 00:44:14
    the pre-existing condition of structural racism
  • 00:44:17
    and how that's played out in our community
  • 00:44:20
    is the fact that there has been a surge
  • 00:44:23
    in anti-Asian racism and xenophobic
  • 00:44:26
    that's manifested in attacks against our community.
  • 00:44:30
    So in the same ways
  • 00:44:32
    that our community has had health impacts,
  • 00:44:36
    disparate economic impacts.
  • 00:44:38
    Here in San Francisco, over 50% of the deaths are Asian.
  • 00:44:44
    We also see that with Asian American workers
  • 00:44:48
    and in the labor force,
  • 00:44:50
    because that they are working in the hospitality industry,
  • 00:44:55
    retail and so forth,
  • 00:44:57
    that they're not only losing their jobs,
  • 00:44:59
    but they are also facing discrimination
  • 00:45:03
    and being attacked while being essential workers.
  • 00:45:07
    But with regard to our work with our partners,
  • 00:45:11
    we started Stop API Hate with APCON based in Los Angeles
  • 00:45:17
    and SF State University.
  • 00:45:19
    We came together
  • 00:45:20
    because we knew that the backlash would be severe.
  • 00:45:24
    This isn't anything new, as you pointed out.
  • 00:45:27
    It actually defines our experience
  • 00:45:30
    as Asians, as immigrants here,
  • 00:45:33
    where we have been blamed for economic crisis,
  • 00:45:37
    public health crisis,
  • 00:45:39
    and of course,
  • 00:45:40
    whenever there's any kind of US foreign relations issue.
  • 00:45:46
    And just imagine all three of these things coming together.
  • 00:45:49
    So it's the trifecta.
  • 00:45:51
    And what's that resulted in
  • 00:45:53
    is we have 2,700 incidents
  • 00:45:57
    that have come onto our reporting site
  • 00:45:59
    where individuals while living out their daily lives
  • 00:46:03
    have been verbally attacked, physically attacked
  • 00:46:05
    and encountered discrimination in the workplace
  • 00:46:09
    and in private businesses.
  • 00:46:10
    And we did this because we wanted to
  • 00:46:15
    number one, have it be taken seriously.
  • 00:46:17
    So we have been able to do that, to make a case.
  • 00:46:21
    We also wanted to make sure
  • 00:46:23
    that the response to it was appropriate.
  • 00:46:26
    So there's been a huge focus on policing and hate crimes.
  • 00:46:31
    We think that that's the wrong direction.
  • 00:46:34
    We actually want to promote practices
  • 00:46:36
    that will not cause further harm,
  • 00:46:38
    will not further criminalize.
  • 00:46:41
    And in fact, we want to focus on community-based efforts
  • 00:46:45
    that really address safety and justice
  • 00:46:48
    and the root causes of violence in our community.
  • 00:46:52
    And I'm very inspired by the fact that this is happening
  • 00:46:56
    not just here in California, but throughout the country.
  • 00:47:02
    So appreciate that.
  • 00:47:04
    And can you talk a little bit,
  • 00:47:06
    in regards to the Stop API Hate campaign,
  • 00:47:09
    how that intersects, works in alliance,
  • 00:47:12
    with groups like Black Lives Matter,
  • 00:47:14
    to advance the cause of racial equity more generally?
  • 00:47:18
    Where are the overlaps there, Cynthia?
  • 00:47:21
    We think it's inextricably tied.
  • 00:47:24
    Our work is rooted in the recognition
  • 00:47:28
    that black, indigenous, people of color and immigrants,
  • 00:47:31
    we need to work together and in solidarity,
  • 00:47:35
    which is why, I think, we've worked very hard
  • 00:47:38
    to actually point to the racist rhetoric,
  • 00:47:42
    white supremacy,
  • 00:47:44
    and the fact that we have over 400 anti-immigrant policies
  • 00:47:50
    that have been enacted under the Trump administration.
  • 00:47:54
    Many of you know about the more familiar ones,
  • 00:47:57
    like the trying to end DACA, the Muslim ban.
  • 00:48:01
    What we're trying to do is educate our own community
  • 00:48:05
    about the history of white supremacy,
  • 00:48:08
    the history of policing in the United States.
  • 00:48:12
    And this is the work that many organizations,
  • 00:48:15
    as I said, including ours,
  • 00:48:17
    are working to educate our community
  • 00:48:19
    who may not be familiar with those civil rights history
  • 00:48:22
    and the fact that there is a racial hierarchy, colorism,
  • 00:48:27
    and this is all work that we need to dismantle together.
  • 00:48:31
    No, so appreciate that,
  • 00:48:32
    sort of the reference to, you know, game-changing works
  • 00:48:37
    like Isabel Wilkerson's cast,
  • 00:48:39
    you know, sort of the history of racial violence is broad.
  • 00:48:43
    I'm thinking back to the anti-Chinese riots,
  • 00:48:45
    the Rock Springs Massacre,
  • 00:48:47
    forced evacuations in the specific Northwest
  • 00:48:49
    in the 19th century.
  • 00:48:51
    This is as old as our country, Cynthia.
  • 00:48:54
    And how do you align sort of the energy
  • 00:48:58
    of things like Stop API Hate campaign
  • 00:49:02
    along with this political moment?
  • 00:49:04
    How do you continue to have that sort of energy
  • 00:49:07
    and focus and attention on this work
  • 00:49:10
    that might be heightened during a election season
  • 00:49:13
    to ensure that it continues after?
  • 00:49:17
    Well, we obviously have done a lot
  • 00:49:19
    to try to engage our community.
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    We have 11 million potential voters
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    from the Asian-American community,
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    one of the fastest growing electorates,
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    but we have had a problem with turnout.
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    And so that has been the huge push.
  • 00:49:37
    And now we have what is,
  • 00:49:40
    I think we've seen some statistics
  • 00:49:42
    about young people, young voters
  • 00:49:45
    who are more animated now
  • 00:49:46
    because of the fact that we are having a racial reckoning,
  • 00:49:50
    we are connecting the dots to what's happening to us,
  • 00:49:53
    to other communities of color.
  • 00:49:56
    And the fact that it's important
  • 00:49:58
    that we recognize that this is structural racism,
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    it's not new,
  • 00:50:02
    and that we can actually do something about that.
  • 00:50:04
    And so regardless of the outcome of the election,
  • 00:50:08
    our work needs to continue.
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    I just want to remind the fact
  • 00:50:13
    that in prior democratic administrations
  • 00:50:16
    we were deporting people,
  • 00:50:18
    there was an effort to criminalize parts of our community.
  • 00:50:21
    And so I think we have to recognize
  • 00:50:24
    that whatever the election outcomes,
  • 00:50:27
    we actually need to build more movements
  • 00:50:30
    that are doing work within our community,
  • 00:50:32
    as well as across our communities.
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    And that's the energy and what inspires me today.
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    No, that's beautifully said.
  • 00:50:39
    So thank you, Cynthia.
  • 00:50:40
    Perfect moment for me to pause here
  • 00:50:43
    and to thank you and all of our speakers
  • 00:50:45
    in this first segment.
  • 00:50:46
    Thank you for educating us and taking us on this journey.
  • 00:50:48
    And I'll just say, I'll end where I began.
  • 00:50:50
    You know, we're in a crisis,
  • 00:50:52
    we have to name it,
  • 00:50:54
    we have to own it.
  • 00:50:55
    You know, I was reminded the official magazine of the NAACP,
  • 00:50:57
    which has been in continuous publication since 1910
  • 00:51:00
    is named The Crisis.
  • 00:51:01
    And the first editor of that magazine,
  • 00:51:04
    the great W.E.B. Dubois wanted,
  • 00:51:06
    through the name and the narratives,
  • 00:51:08
    to convey what a critical moment it was
  • 00:51:11
    for black folks in this country,
  • 00:51:13
    what a dangerous moment it was for them.
  • 00:51:16
    But the magazine was also
  • 00:51:18
    an extraordinarily important vehicle
  • 00:51:20
    for many of the key voices of the Harlem Renaissance.
  • 00:51:23
    And I will say I've always been really heartened
  • 00:51:25
    by that trajectory toward inspiration and transformation
  • 00:51:29
    out of pain and trauma.
  • 00:51:32
    And I think it really sets up perfectly
  • 00:51:34
    our next moderator Jimmy Briggs,
  • 00:51:36
    a Skoll Foundation principle and journalist
  • 00:51:39
    whose prose is truly poetry.
  • 00:51:41
    He's now convened a group of creatives,
  • 00:51:43
    innovators who are responding to the pandemic
  • 00:51:46
    who are drawing from community need and culture
  • 00:51:49
    working every day to prevent the pandemic spread
  • 00:51:51
    and help those impacted by this disease.
  • 00:51:54
    So I'm really honored to turn it over to you, Jimmy.
  • 00:51:59
    Thank you so much for that gracious introduction
  • 00:52:02
    and also for your masterful questioning and dialogue
  • 00:52:07
    with our speakers.
  • 00:52:09
    For myself, I just want to acknowledge a few people,
  • 00:52:12
    I guess in-house business, if you will.
  • 00:52:14
    You know, I think it was brother Kaleal
  • 00:52:16
    who called me out in his remarks
  • 00:52:19
    for putting this together,
  • 00:52:20
    but I have to acknowledge and honor my colleagues
  • 00:52:23
    within the Skoll Foundation,
  • 00:52:24
    who've been working so tirelessly alongside me,
  • 00:52:26
    to bring this vision to fruition,
  • 00:52:28
    namely Jessica Flooty, Phil Collis, Claire Wathan,
  • 00:52:31
    Jule Alton, Robin Belinsky,
  • 00:52:34
    Sierra Gonzalez and Norma Rodriguez,
  • 00:52:36
    along with Theresa Chen.
  • 00:52:37
    And also thank you, Don Gibbs, our CEO
  • 00:52:40
    for giving the green light to do this pilot town hall
  • 00:52:43
    and your affirmation of the vision and learning agenda
  • 00:52:48
    we want to build from it.
  • 00:52:49
    I also, I have to, as Cheryl notes,
  • 00:52:53
    we are on the crisis,
  • 00:52:54
    I feel compelled to,
  • 00:52:57
    in love, as Tulane pointed out the need for love,
  • 00:53:00
    hold up the families
  • 00:53:02
    of Walter Wallace and Qoran Holton Brown,
  • 00:53:04
    who are suffering in Philadelphia and DC as we speak,
  • 00:53:09
    and also really want to send prayers and affirmation
  • 00:53:14
    to Washington DC and Philadelphia
  • 00:53:16
    in the midst of uprisings
  • 00:53:18
    in response to the murders of those gentlemen,
  • 00:53:22
    as well as our fallen sister Breonna Tayler,
  • 00:53:25
    who herself was a frontline activist
  • 00:53:28
    in the midst of COVID-19 whose life was taken.
  • 00:53:31
    I want to introduce our discussants
  • 00:53:33
    and remain mindful of time.
  • 00:53:36
    I want to introduce them,
  • 00:53:37
    allow them the opportunity to speak
  • 00:53:39
    about their respective work
  • 00:53:41
    and impact they're seeing
  • 00:53:43
    and the impact of COVID-19,
  • 00:53:44
    but also the impact that their words and actions are having
  • 00:53:46
    in response to COVID-19
  • 00:53:48
    and then bring both groups together as a whole
  • 00:53:52
    so we can percolate the responses
  • 00:53:56
    and questions that are popcorning in the chat now.
  • 00:53:58
    First, I want to introduce Ernest Boykin,
  • 00:54:01
    who is a criminal justice reform advocate
  • 00:54:03
    and works in partnership
  • 00:54:05
    with Families Against Mandatory Minimums.
  • 00:54:06
    We also have Kim Gallon,
  • 00:54:08
    associate professor of history at Purdue University
  • 00:54:10
    and the founder of COVID Black,
  • 00:54:12
    as well as the Nathaniel Smith,
  • 00:54:14
    founder and chief equity officer
  • 00:54:16
    of the Partnership for Southern Equity in Atlanta, Georgia.
  • 00:54:18
    Then we have Monique Tula,
  • 00:54:20
    who's executive director
  • 00:54:21
    for the National Harm Reduction Coalition.
  • 00:54:23
    And finally Dr. Olajide Williams,
  • 00:54:25
    who's professor of neurology at Columbia University
  • 00:54:27
    and the father of Hip Hop Public Health.
  • 00:54:30
    My first question will be directed towards Ernest Boykin.
  • 00:54:34
    Brother Ernest, you heard Kaleal Cumberbatch
  • 00:54:37
    from the Council on Criminal Justice
  • 00:54:38
    speak about the impact of COVID-19
  • 00:54:41
    on incarceration and the criminal justice system.
  • 00:54:43
    I was hoping, Ernest,
  • 00:54:44
    you could briefly share your perspective
  • 00:54:48
    of what those who are currently incarcerated
  • 00:54:52
    in the midst of the COVID-19 pandemic are experiencing
  • 00:54:54
    and what the journey home is like
  • 00:54:56
    coming back to one's home community
  • 00:55:00
    that is debilitated sometimes even more deeply,
  • 00:55:03
    not only by systemic racism, but now by the pandemic?
  • 00:55:06
    Hey, hello.
  • 00:55:08
    I'd like to say thank you at the Jimmy and Skoll Foundation
  • 00:55:10
    and thank you to the panel.
  • 00:55:12
    And you know, my heart goes out to the young man, Qoran.
  • 00:55:16
    I actually live in the same neighborhood as he does.
  • 00:55:20
    That's right down the street.
  • 00:55:21
    He was killed on Seventh and Kennedy Street Northwest.
  • 00:55:24
    I live on 14th and Kennedy, so that really hits home.
  • 00:55:28
    I've seen the protest and it's terrible.
  • 00:55:33
    But back to what you said, Jimmy,
  • 00:55:36
    basically I didn't understand at first
  • 00:55:39
    why I was selected for this panel.
  • 00:55:42
    However, once I listened to everybody
  • 00:55:45
    and Jimmy brought me up to speed,
  • 00:55:48
    I feel like I can really add a great perspective
  • 00:55:51
    because I was a recipient of compassionate release
  • 00:55:55
    on July the 17th,
  • 00:55:57
    and most people who were were incarcerated
  • 00:56:00
    or in that situation,
  • 00:56:01
    a lot of people don't have the ability
  • 00:56:03
    to articulate themselves
  • 00:56:05
    and speak about what they went through
  • 00:56:09
    or what they're going through.
  • 00:56:10
    So I want to be that voice
  • 00:56:11
    for the people who can't speak for themselves,
  • 00:56:15
    the voiceless.
  • 00:56:18
    Coming home from prison is like,
  • 00:56:23
    just to put you in perspective,
  • 00:56:25
    imagine being in a coma, and then you sleep for two years,
  • 00:56:33
    a year, however long you're in that coma
  • 00:56:35
    and then you wake up, you come home,
  • 00:56:38
    and there's new buildings,
  • 00:56:41
    there's new people that live in your neighborhood,
  • 00:56:43
    kids have grown up,
  • 00:56:46
    it's like a shock.
  • 00:56:47
    And that's the same thing
  • 00:56:49
    that a person coming home from prison
  • 00:56:51
    experiences on a normal day.
  • 00:56:55
    They understand that they come home from prison,
  • 00:56:56
    nothing's gonna be the same,
  • 00:56:58
    especially if they've been in there
  • 00:56:59
    for a year, five years, 10 years, 20 years, 30 years.
  • 00:57:03
    However, during the midst of this COVID,
  • 00:57:07
    for everybody to understand what a person is going through,
  • 00:57:09
    just put yourself in the position like you were in a coma
  • 00:57:12
    and you come out
  • 00:57:12
    and now you see everybody with masks on,
  • 00:57:15
    you're basically thinking you're free from prison
  • 00:57:17
    but you're going back in the house to be locked down.
  • 00:57:20
    So you can't move around like you want,
  • 00:57:22
    the processes are slowed down,
  • 00:57:24
    he DMV is slowed down so you can't get an ID.
  • 00:57:28
    So without an ID, you can't really have healthcare,
  • 00:57:31
    you can't drive, you can't do anything without an ID.
  • 00:57:35
    So things like that have been impeded by this COVID process,
  • 00:57:39
    not only the systems,
  • 00:57:44
    but now you can't see your family members
  • 00:57:46
    or your loved ones
  • 00:57:48
    that you've missed over this period of time
  • 00:57:50
    that you've been absent.
  • 00:57:51
    And you know, I look at it
  • 00:57:55
    as a good and a bad thing,
  • 00:57:57
    you know, because that's the type of person I am,
  • 00:57:58
    I always can find the good in a situation.
  • 00:58:01
    Being that COVID has struck,
  • 00:58:04
    there are a lot of opportunities for returning citizens
  • 00:58:07
    to gain employment now.
  • 00:58:09
    There's a lot of jobs that people don't want to take
  • 00:58:12
    because of COVID.
  • 00:58:13
    So now there are opportunities
  • 00:58:16
    for people who want to better themselves to go back to work.
  • 00:58:19
    There's also opportunity for a person
  • 00:58:22
    to do online education and things like that.
  • 00:58:26
    So I can look at the upside,
  • 00:58:28
    but a lot of people, they don't look at the upside
  • 00:58:31
    because COVID is affecting minorities,
  • 00:58:34
    it's affecting the black and brown community,
  • 00:58:36
    even the Asian community,
  • 00:58:38
    a lot differently than it is affecting the white community
  • 00:58:42
    or the affluent community.
  • 00:58:45
    I live in a community, like I said,
  • 00:58:47
    I live on 14th and Kennedy street
  • 00:58:49
    and all the houses around me are pretty big houses within
  • 00:58:54
    and we're right across from Rock Creek Park,
  • 00:58:56
    the famous Rock Creek Park.
  • 00:58:58
    But if you go down the street three blocks, three blocks,
  • 00:59:02
    this is where the gentleman was killed by the cops.
  • 00:59:05
    They chased him on a moped,
  • 00:59:07
    which is supposed to be against policy,
  • 00:59:10
    and he was murdered.
  • 00:59:11
    So there's all kinds of poverty.
  • 00:59:14
    The line is really thin but it's a big gap,
  • 00:59:18
    it's a huge gap.
  • 00:59:20
    And this is the difference.
  • 00:59:23
    The white community is experiencing one COVID
  • 00:59:25
    and the poor people,
  • 00:59:27
    the blacks, the browns and even the Asians
  • 00:59:31
    who are being discriminated against
  • 00:59:32
    because they calling it the China virus,
  • 00:59:35
    they're experiencing a whole other COVID.
  • 00:59:38
    My neighbors, who are most of them are white,
  • 00:59:41
    they're in their gardens,
  • 00:59:42
    they're with their kids,
  • 00:59:43
    they're with their dogs
  • 00:59:45
    they're buying new things because they have money,
  • 00:59:49
    some of them are executives
  • 00:59:50
    and they're taking out huge salaries from home
  • 00:59:53
    and they're enjoying themselves,
  • 00:59:55
    they're enjoying this pandemic,
  • 00:59:56
    even though they can't go out,
  • 00:59:57
    but they still have the opportunity
  • 00:59:59
    to order to the house,
  • 01:00:03
    they can go to the grocery store and buy crab legs
  • 01:00:05
    and see food and have a good old time.
  • 01:00:08
    But then the people in the poor communities,
  • 01:00:11
    the people who have just returned from prison,
  • 01:00:15
    they are actually having a really tough time.
  • 01:00:18
    They are really trying to struggle how to make ends meet
  • 01:00:22
    and trying to figure out,
  • 01:00:24
    goodness gracious Lysol is five dollars a can
  • 01:00:27
    and then now I have to do this
  • 01:00:30
    and I got to get on the bus
  • 01:00:31
    with people sneezing and coughing.
  • 01:00:34
    You got to get on the back of the bus at DC.
  • 01:00:36
    It's free now, yes, it's free.
  • 01:00:38
    However, you got to get on the back of the bus
  • 01:00:40
    and the symbolism in just getting on the back of the bus
  • 01:00:44
    for a black person is terrible.
  • 01:00:47
    This is what black people had to do,
  • 01:00:49
    get on the back of the bus,
  • 01:00:51
    and now they have to do it again because of COVID.
  • 01:00:53
    Thank you so much, Ernest.
  • 01:00:54
    Thank you for that perspective,
  • 01:00:56
    that barely needed perspective.
  • 01:00:58
    I want to go to Dr. Williams,
  • 01:01:02
    Hip Hop Public Health.
  • 01:01:03
    Dr. Williams, we've heard previously from several speakers
  • 01:01:07
    about the need for communications and narrative.
  • 01:01:10
    And from your perspective, I'm curious,
  • 01:01:12
    I mean through Hip Hop Public Health,
  • 01:01:14
    you are working to create culturally resonant messaging,
  • 01:01:19
    behavioral health messaging,
  • 01:01:20
    particularly for black and Latin X populations.
  • 01:01:23
    And I'm wondering,
  • 01:01:24
    as a physician public health specialist,
  • 01:01:27
    can you speak to the work of Hip Hop Public Health
  • 01:01:29
    but also the critical need for messaging
  • 01:01:33
    that reaches the communities
  • 01:01:36
    that need to be served the most?
  • 01:01:39
    Sure.
  • 01:01:40
    First of all, I just want to thank,
  • 01:01:41
    thank you, Jimmy,
  • 01:01:42
    for putting this together and the entire Skoll team.
  • 01:01:47
    So, you know, Hip Hop Public Health,
  • 01:01:49
    we recognize the challenge of behavior change
  • 01:01:54
    and the myriad structural barriers that are often tied
  • 01:01:59
    to social determinants of health
  • 01:02:02
    and require more complex solutions.
  • 01:02:05
    But we believe that we need to get to a place
  • 01:02:10
    where healthy behavior needs to become the easiest behavior
  • 01:02:15
    or the default behavior,
  • 01:02:17
    from an environmental, cognitive and emotional perspective.
  • 01:02:22
    The environmental structural challenges,
  • 01:02:25
    some of whom Dr. Bassett has discussed
  • 01:02:28
    and other panelists have spoken about so eloquently
  • 01:02:31
    are outside of Hip Hop Public Health's mission.
  • 01:02:34
    And what we try to do
  • 01:02:35
    is address the powerful cognitive
  • 01:02:38
    and emotional components of behavior change
  • 01:02:42
    within black communities
  • 01:02:43
    where we've been building trust over more than a decade.
  • 01:02:49
    So we do this by addressing behavior change
  • 01:02:52
    through a model we developed
  • 01:02:55
    that kind of operationalizes
  • 01:02:57
    a culturally tailored health education approach
  • 01:03:01
    that uses hip hop
  • 01:03:03
    across the socioecological levels of behavioral influence.
  • 01:03:08
    And we focus almost exclusively on youth of color.
  • 01:03:14
    You know, we recognize that many of our constituents
  • 01:03:17
    are in what we call the pre-contemplation stage
  • 01:03:20
    of behavior change,
  • 01:03:23
    given the hardships that they endure
  • 01:03:25
    and the social deprivation that surrounds them.
  • 01:03:30
    We try to practically
  • 01:03:32
    target specific components of actionable knowledge,
  • 01:03:37
    as well as behavioral skills and self-efficacy
  • 01:03:42
    in a way that emotionally connects with them.
  • 01:03:45
    It's culturally adapted to their lifestyles
  • 01:03:50
    and is cool and relevant.
  • 01:03:53
    We've done this with our COVID prevention media.
  • 01:03:57
    We've done this with things like mindfulness resources.
  • 01:04:01
    You know, I personally believe one of the next waves,
  • 01:04:04
    one of the next epidemics that we're gonna see
  • 01:04:07
    in communities of color
  • 01:04:08
    is one that's been brewing for a long time
  • 01:04:11
    and it's about to explode.
  • 01:04:12
    And that's the epidemic
  • 01:04:14
    of trauma and post-traumatic stress disorder.
  • 01:04:18
    And I think that really developing structures
  • 01:04:21
    around those issues,
  • 01:04:23
    as well as the type of culturally tailored and adapted
  • 01:04:27
    and emotionally connecting messages that they need
  • 01:04:30
    is gonna be critical for moving forward.
  • 01:04:32
    Thank you so much for that analysis, Dr. Williams.
  • 01:04:35
    I want to go to Monique Tula
  • 01:04:38
    at the National Harm Reduction Coalition.
  • 01:04:40
    And Monique, her and I know each other,
  • 01:04:43
    and Cynthia earlier spoke about the trifecta of this moment,
  • 01:04:49
    but it's really, it's more than a trifecta
  • 01:04:51
    because as you know, Monique,
  • 01:04:54
    the country has before COVID been facing an overdose crisis
  • 01:04:59
    around fentanyl and heroin usage,
  • 01:05:03
    particularly in the white community.
  • 01:05:06
    I'm curious from your point of view,
  • 01:05:08
    and working nationally,
  • 01:05:10
    if you could just provide us a glimpse
  • 01:05:13
    into what you're seeing,
  • 01:05:14
    how this pandemic has impacted the harm reduction community,
  • 01:05:19
    its ability to deliver the resources and information needed
  • 01:05:22
    to keep people alive,
  • 01:05:24
    but also how it's impacted,
  • 01:05:26
    I would say the view of people
  • 01:05:28
    who were in the harm reduction community and using drugs.
  • 01:05:31
    I ask that question because I live in New York city
  • 01:05:33
    and I hear neighbors and colleagues
  • 01:05:37
    complain about the increase of the homeless population
  • 01:05:40
    or complain about individuals being moved into hotels
  • 01:05:44
    rather than being on the streets.
  • 01:05:46
    I'm just curious from your point of view,
  • 01:05:47
    what are you seeing
  • 01:05:48
    and how has organization combating the stigma,
  • 01:05:51
    combating the challenge
  • 01:05:54
    the increased challenge for resources?
  • 01:05:58
    Thank you, Jimmy.
  • 01:05:59
    It's really, it's an honor to be here
  • 01:06:00
    with all of these social justice warriors for real.
  • 01:06:04
    And I just want to thank you also,
  • 01:06:05
    commend your leadership
  • 01:06:06
    for bringing this important topic
  • 01:06:09
    to the forefront of Skoll's work.
  • 01:06:12
    Greetings from chilly Los Angeles,
  • 01:06:14
    and there's some folks outside doing some work,
  • 01:06:17
    so let's pray they don't get started before you cut my mic.
  • 01:06:22
    Let me just tell you a little bit about harm reduction
  • 01:06:24
    'cause maybe some of your audience aren't familiar with it.
  • 01:06:28
    Emergence of harm reduction was in direct response
  • 01:06:33
    to the lack of attention and political will
  • 01:06:36
    to address the raging HIV/AIDS epidemic
  • 01:06:38
    among people who used drugs in the '80s.
  • 01:06:41
    So the founders of harm reduction in the US were,
  • 01:06:44
    what I call a group of radical badasses.
  • 01:06:48
    To be honest with you,
  • 01:06:48
    they were activists and community organizers.
  • 01:06:51
    There were some researchers, social workers
  • 01:06:53
    and people who used drugs themselves.
  • 01:06:56
    And they all made the bold decision
  • 01:06:59
    to care about people who used drugs
  • 01:07:01
    who were dying from AIDS.
  • 01:07:03
    So there's six principles of harm reduction,
  • 01:07:06
    there's health and dignity,
  • 01:07:07
    so the right to be healthy and seen as a whole person,
  • 01:07:11
    participant centered services,
  • 01:07:12
    so meeting people where they are
  • 01:07:14
    rather than where we want them to be,
  • 01:07:16
    participant involvement
  • 01:07:18
    in the design of services for them,
  • 01:07:20
    participant autonomy,
  • 01:07:22
    sociocultural competency
  • 01:07:26
    and then just pragmatism and realism.
  • 01:07:28
    So we do not ignore or minimize
  • 01:07:31
    the very real potential tragic harms
  • 01:07:33
    that are associated with substance use.
  • 01:07:37
    So I can't talk,
  • 01:07:39
    nobody here can talk about health disparities,
  • 01:07:42
    and in my case, among people who use drugs,
  • 01:07:45
    or the overdose crisis or racial equity
  • 01:07:48
    without naming front and center white supremacy
  • 01:07:51
    which is what sustains the conditions
  • 01:07:54
    under which black and brown and poor folks of all colors
  • 01:07:59
    struggle to survive much less thrive, right?
  • 01:08:03
    So white colonizers stole land
  • 01:08:05
    that was inhabited by indigenous folks,
  • 01:08:07
    not just here, but all over the planet.
  • 01:08:09
    There isn't a continent that hasn't been marred
  • 01:08:12
    by the bloody footprint of colonialism.
  • 01:08:16
    So those of us who are demanding
  • 01:08:18
    racial and economic justice,
  • 01:08:20
    we have a long road ahead of us
  • 01:08:22
    to change the policies that keep the white foot
  • 01:08:25
    quite literally on the necks of black and brown people
  • 01:08:28
    and it's taken us centuries to get here.
  • 01:08:31
    But the war on drugs rages on,
  • 01:08:33
    and we know that it's not enough to change policy.
  • 01:08:36
    Good policies are only as good
  • 01:08:38
    as the people who practice them.
  • 01:08:40
    So it's the quality of our interactions
  • 01:08:42
    that needs to change.
  • 01:08:44
    And that is what harm reduction is all about.
  • 01:08:47
    Syringe service programs are an example
  • 01:08:51
    of a harm reduction public health strategy
  • 01:08:54
    and they're considered essential services,
  • 01:08:57
    although that's not always recognized
  • 01:09:00
    in some of the jurisdictions around the country.
  • 01:09:02
    And in fact in a recent survey on the impact of COVID-19
  • 01:09:05
    on syringe service programs in the US,
  • 01:09:08
    nearly all of the respondents noted
  • 01:09:10
    that policy makers and leaders
  • 01:09:13
    didn't include syringe service programs
  • 01:09:15
    in jurisdictional emergency planning and response.
  • 01:09:19
    And that is essentially the erasure of people who use drugs.
  • 01:09:23
    But despite that erasure,
  • 01:09:25
    demand for services is still high.
  • 01:09:28
    And in response, staff of syringe service programs
  • 01:09:32
    have remained open,
  • 01:09:35
    they've maximized safety
  • 01:09:38
    by reinforcing social distancing,
  • 01:09:40
    minimizing the number of visits,
  • 01:09:43
    and our organization, we stepped into immediate action
  • 01:09:49
    in response to COVID-19.
  • 01:09:50
    We co-created resources,
  • 01:09:53
    formed mutual aid support groups
  • 01:09:56
    for folks who are doing harm reduction work
  • 01:09:57
    all over the country.
  • 01:10:01
    Some of the resources that we created
  • 01:10:03
    includes using more safely during COVID.
  • 01:10:08
    And in fact, COVID actually goes against
  • 01:10:10
    overdose prevention, risk reduction strategy.
  • 01:10:14
    So we say don't use alone,
  • 01:10:16
    COVID says need to socially distance
  • 01:10:18
    and in some cases you have to socially isolate.
  • 01:10:23
    All of our materials,
  • 01:10:25
    many of the materials that we've created
  • 01:10:27
    have been translated into Spanish
  • 01:10:29
    and now some into Portuguese and Arabic,
  • 01:10:33
    because we recognize that it's not an exclusive group,
  • 01:10:38
    racially limited heterogeneous group
  • 01:10:41
    of people who use drugs,
  • 01:10:42
    it cuts across all races.
  • 01:10:44
    And I guess I would just also,
  • 01:10:48
    like many of my co-panelists
  • 01:10:52
    and the discussants have been saying,
  • 01:10:54
    COVID has really exposed some of the structural violence
  • 01:11:01
    that we've all been living under.
  • 01:11:04
    I was on a call recently
  • 01:11:05
    with a number of executive directors
  • 01:11:08
    of harm reduction programs around the country
  • 01:11:10
    and one of our colleagues on the call
  • 01:11:12
    said something was particularly profound.
  • 01:11:15
    She said, "Syringe service programs
  • 01:11:17
    can help keep people alive
  • 01:11:20
    just long enough for them to get COVID."
  • 01:11:23
    And I felt like that was really profound.
  • 01:11:27
    It was gruesome, but for many it's not untrue.
  • 01:11:31
    Thank you so much, Monique,
  • 01:11:32
    for giving us that overarching frame of white supremacy
  • 01:11:37
    and the historical racism
  • 01:11:40
    the country has lived under for centuries.
  • 01:11:43
    I want to go to Nathaniel Smith
  • 01:11:45
    from Partnership for Southern Equity
  • 01:11:47
    based out of Atlanta, Georgia.
  • 01:11:49
    Nathaniel, you, through Partnership for Southern Equity
  • 01:11:54
    have created a COVID-19 fund
  • 01:11:57
    to support individuals
  • 01:11:58
    in the regional southeastern United States,
  • 01:12:01
    grappling with the economic and health and housing impacts
  • 01:12:05
    of the virus.
  • 01:12:07
    I'm hoping you can give us a glimpse
  • 01:12:09
    what you're seeing from a regional perspective
  • 01:12:11
    and how, the tenor, if you will,
  • 01:12:16
    in terms of both the official state response,
  • 01:12:20
    local responses playing out
  • 01:12:21
    as well as how successful your efforts have been
  • 01:12:26
    at Partnership for Southern Equity
  • 01:12:27
    to mitigate the harshest consequences of the pandemic.
  • 01:12:32
    Jimmy, again, I can't say enough how appreciative I am
  • 01:12:36
    of this opportunity
  • 01:12:37
    and just thank you so much in the Skoll Foundation
  • 01:12:40
    for giving someone from the American South
  • 01:12:42
    an opportunity to participate in this conversation.
  • 01:12:45
    A lot of times the South is forgotten
  • 01:12:48
    in key conversations like this.
  • 01:12:50
    And as an organization
  • 01:12:51
    like the Partnership for Southern Equity
  • 01:12:53
    that believes that the road to true liberation
  • 01:12:56
    must go through the South.
  • 01:12:58
    It is critical to always provide opportunities
  • 01:13:02
    for our voices to be heard.
  • 01:13:04
    PSE is just a nonprofit organization,
  • 01:13:06
    a racial equity organization,
  • 01:13:08
    that is working to advance a new Southern agenda
  • 01:13:11
    for racial equity and shared prosperity
  • 01:13:13
    in the American South.
  • 01:13:15
    And I would say, Jimmy,
  • 01:13:16
    that in order for us to move forward
  • 01:13:17
    and talk about where we are,
  • 01:13:19
    we also have to talk about where we've been.
  • 01:13:21
    James Baldwin talked a great deal
  • 01:13:22
    about how history is the present.
  • 01:13:24
    And we have to understand that in many ways.
  • 01:13:27
    I've heard a lot of people talk about on this panel,
  • 01:13:30
    which I'm just honored to be a part of,
  • 01:13:33
    about the social determinants of health.
  • 01:13:35
    And one of the things that we know and understand
  • 01:13:39
    now more than ever
  • 01:13:40
    is that racism is a social determinant
  • 01:13:43
    and that not only is racism a social determinant
  • 01:13:46
    but it is the social determinant
  • 01:13:48
    for communities of color and black folks.
  • 01:13:50
    And in many ways we believe the number one killer,
  • 01:13:53
    not COVID or other diseases or viruses,
  • 01:13:56
    the number one killer for black people
  • 01:13:58
    and communities of color in this nation.
  • 01:14:00
    We also have to understand within the context of our economy
  • 01:14:04
    and why the South is so important
  • 01:14:05
    that you had a region that built its economy
  • 01:14:08
    off of free labor,
  • 01:14:09
    the backs of slaves,
  • 01:14:11
    and in many ways that relationship
  • 01:14:13
    between hard working people
  • 01:14:15
    who have been exploited by the extractive economy
  • 01:14:18
    continues to perpetuate itself today.
  • 01:14:20
    And we saw that in real time through COVID-19
  • 01:14:24
    where low skilled labor became essential workers
  • 01:14:28
    within the context of the lexicon of our economy.
  • 01:14:31
    And what happens when we create an economy
  • 01:14:35
    that is built exclusively on extraction and exploitation,
  • 01:14:38
    and how that moves us towards a bankruptcy of empathy
  • 01:14:43
    is where we are.
  • 01:14:44
    And I think in many ways,
  • 01:14:45
    COVID-19 has shown us
  • 01:14:46
    that for the Partnership for Southern Equity,
  • 01:14:49
    we also understood,
  • 01:14:50
    and this is really what I wanted to get to Jimmy
  • 01:14:53
    to answer your question
  • 01:14:54
    is that you cannot continue to put good money in bad systems
  • 01:14:58
    and expect good results.
  • 01:15:00
    And that was one of the reasons
  • 01:15:02
    why we decided to create a COVID-19 emergency fund
  • 01:15:06
    because although we had a philanthropic ecosystem
  • 01:15:10
    we knew that it was influenced in many ways
  • 01:15:13
    by structural racism and privilege and white supremacy.
  • 01:15:16
    So we wanted to create an alternative way to get money
  • 01:15:19
    to black led organizations
  • 01:15:21
    on the ground with minimal budgets
  • 01:15:23
    because they are the closest
  • 01:15:26
    to the people who need the money the most.
  • 01:15:28
    And from that experience,
  • 01:15:30
    we've seen the resilience
  • 01:15:32
    and the commitment of frontline organizations
  • 01:15:34
    in being involved in shaping their own destiny.
  • 01:15:38
    One of our partners, Gloria Walton,
  • 01:15:41
    who's the CEO of Solution Project,
  • 01:15:43
    talks a great deal about how we need leaders
  • 01:15:45
    from communities right now.
  • 01:15:46
    And we also believe
  • 01:15:48
    that the people that are closest to the problem
  • 01:15:51
    are actually closest to the solution.
  • 01:15:53
    And that's why I really appreciated Ernests' comments
  • 01:15:56
    about what he's seeing on the ground
  • 01:15:58
    because that is where we believe the answers are.
  • 01:16:01
    And so for us, we believe that this is not just about COVID,
  • 01:16:05
    it's about systems of extraction and oppression,
  • 01:16:08
    it's about creating alternative economies
  • 01:16:11
    that are healing and not extractive.
  • 01:16:13
    It's about understanding the history
  • 01:16:15
    of the stripping of humanity
  • 01:16:18
    and its role in creating an economy that is not healing.
  • 01:16:22
    And we have to find a way to move forward
  • 01:16:24
    to create an economy
  • 01:16:25
    that looks at everyone as an asset
  • 01:16:27
    and no one as a liability.
  • 01:16:30
    Thank you so much, Nathaniel.
  • 01:16:31
    Wow, thank you so much for your analysis and framing.
  • 01:16:35
    It's been especially,
  • 01:16:36
    the call out of the donor community
  • 01:16:41
    and supporting what works.
  • 01:16:45
    Finally I want to go to Kim,
  • 01:16:47
    Kim Dollan at Purdue University,
  • 01:16:49
    the founder of COVID Black,
  • 01:16:51
    the cofounder with Esther Arma and Necroy Gana.
  • 01:16:56
    Esther's with the Arma Institute for Emotional Justice.
  • 01:16:59
    She's working with Kim on the Black Front Line,
  • 01:17:02
    which is an oral history project
  • 01:17:05
    to center and elevate the voices of black healthcare workers
  • 01:17:11
    on the frontline line in the midst of COVID
  • 01:17:14
    in Ghana, the UK and United States.
  • 01:17:15
    Kim, there's been a lot of talk in this conversation
  • 01:17:18
    from the beginning with Dr. Bassett about data
  • 01:17:21
    and the necessity of data.
  • 01:17:24
    As someone who, data share is your wheelhouse,
  • 01:17:28
    that's your expertise at COVID Black.
  • 01:17:30
    Can you explain to us,
  • 01:17:34
    we've heard about the importance of data,
  • 01:17:36
    but how the use of data and how the misuse of data
  • 01:17:39
    can also be harmful?
  • 01:17:40
    I know when we spoke previously
  • 01:17:42
    several days ago in advance of this conversation,
  • 01:17:44
    you also mentioned living data.
  • 01:17:45
    I was hoping you could contextualize that
  • 01:17:48
    in this conversation.
  • 01:17:49
    Thank you, Jimmy.
  • 01:17:50
    And again, I want to echo on my co-panelists here
  • 01:17:54
    and thank the Skoll Foundation.
  • 01:17:56
    Again Jimmy, particularly you for inviting COVID Black
  • 01:17:59
    to be a part of this important conversation.
  • 01:18:02
    COVID Black started in early April
  • 01:18:04
    with a call and organizing people
  • 01:18:07
    to call on their local health departments
  • 01:18:10
    to release the data.
  • 01:18:11
    Seems like a lifetime ago,
  • 01:18:13
    but in the early stages of the pandemic,
  • 01:18:15
    data was really hard to come by on race and ethnicity.
  • 01:18:19
    And so COVID Black started off
  • 01:18:21
    with trying to get people on the ground
  • 01:18:23
    to call on their health departments.
  • 01:18:25
    Since that time, COVID Black has evolved
  • 01:18:28
    into a nonprofit and data analytics firm
  • 01:18:31
    that looks at black health data.
  • 01:18:34
    We work at the intersection
  • 01:18:35
    of race, health data information, and social justice.
  • 01:18:40
    We redefine quantitative data
  • 01:18:42
    and we turn it into what we call living data
  • 01:18:44
    and data stories about black health.
  • 01:18:48
    And more importantly, and this really touches
  • 01:18:50
    on what Nathaniel said, Dr. Williams said,
  • 01:18:52
    what Ernest said and Tula said,
  • 01:18:54
    we connect black communities to their data.
  • 01:18:57
    So at the heart of what we do
  • 01:18:58
    is we think about data in a living data sort of way.
  • 01:19:02
    I'll talk a little bit more about that in a second.
  • 01:19:05
    But according to the APM Research Lab,
  • 01:19:07
    their Color of Coronavirus project,
  • 01:19:10
    one in 920 black Americans have died from COVID-19.
  • 01:19:13
    And that was as of October 30th.
  • 01:19:16
    And what that means,
  • 01:19:17
    I really want to put that into real full relief,
  • 01:19:20
    that has meant that multiple people in one family have died.
  • 01:19:24
    COVID Black has collected the largest data set
  • 01:19:27
    on black stories
  • 01:19:28
    of people that have passed away from COVID-19.
  • 01:19:31
    And I can tell you that with the collection of the data,
  • 01:19:33
    I'm seeing multiple family members,
  • 01:19:36
    multiple community members that have passed away.
  • 01:19:39
    So Dr. Williams mentioning of trauma
  • 01:19:43
    and that being the next health crisis is absolutely apt.
  • 01:19:48
    Now the Color of Coronavirus and Andy Edward,
  • 01:19:52
    the senior research associate is in the audience
  • 01:19:54
    and she'll put the link to the homepage into the chat,
  • 01:19:58
    is incredibly important quantitative data.
  • 01:20:01
    But what COVID Black does is we turn quantitative data
  • 01:20:03
    into living data,
  • 01:20:05
    data and information about the black lived experience.
  • 01:20:10
    And Dr. Williams and I talked a couple of days ago
  • 01:20:13
    and he and other practitioners in the field,
  • 01:20:16
    want more contextual data, right?
  • 01:20:19
    And so what COVID Black has done
  • 01:20:21
    is created an interactive visualization
  • 01:20:24
    that will go live on December 1st
  • 01:20:26
    that will allow people to see
  • 01:20:28
    the different patterns of black people's lives
  • 01:20:32
    who have passed away from COVID-19,
  • 01:20:34
    but more importantly, to give black communities a way
  • 01:20:38
    to connect to the loved ones that they've lost
  • 01:20:40
    by being able to engage in their stories.
  • 01:20:43
    I'll say one more thing.
  • 01:20:45
    The next thing that we have to really get on top of
  • 01:20:47
    is vaccine hesitancy.
  • 01:20:49
    And COVID Black is gearing up now
  • 01:20:52
    to start working with communities on the ground,
  • 01:20:54
    helping them understand their data,
  • 01:20:56
    being empowered by their data,
  • 01:20:58
    because we talk about data a lot
  • 01:20:59
    but we don't talk about making sure black communities
  • 01:21:02
    have that data,
  • 01:21:03
    making sure people of color have that data,
  • 01:21:05
    are empowered by it, not alienated by it.
  • 01:21:09
    So essentially what we do
  • 01:21:10
    is we recover the lives and the stories of people
  • 01:21:12
    from the data.
  • 01:21:14
    We can't do this work without projects
  • 01:21:16
    like the APM Research Lab, Color of Coronavirus,
  • 01:21:19
    but COVID Black takes those numbers
  • 01:21:21
    and turns them into stories.
  • 01:21:23
    I just want to mention- Oh sorry, okay.
  • 01:21:25
    I was gonna say thank you so much.
  • 01:21:27
    We are running so short on time, Kim,
  • 01:21:29
    and I apologize to you and everyone
  • 01:21:32
    from the first quarter and the second one,
  • 01:21:35
    I think this speaks to the need
  • 01:21:37
    for a longer conversation, obviously
  • 01:21:39
    but also your responses are so rich
  • 01:21:42
    and necessarily detailed.
  • 01:21:43
    I do want, before I transition to Don Gips
  • 01:21:47
    who will, we will actually watch the video
  • 01:21:51
    that was meant to be watched earlier
  • 01:21:53
    and Don will close us out,
  • 01:21:54
    but I wanted to, I'm gonna pull an audible here
  • 01:21:59
    if you don't mind.
  • 01:22:00
    I want to focus a question,
  • 01:22:00
    a closing question, if you will,
  • 01:22:02
    for a small number of you.
  • 01:22:04
    I'm hoping that Nick and Tulane and Cynthia
  • 01:22:10
    and Dr. Broat could be a part of this.
  • 01:22:13
    The question I have
  • 01:22:14
    and a number of you in equity,
  • 01:22:15
    especially Cynthia and Sonia,
  • 01:22:18
    in your earlier comments and responses with Cheryl,
  • 01:22:23
    all of you have elevated,
  • 01:22:28
    I guess the racialization of COVID-19,
  • 01:22:32
    it was racialized
  • 01:22:34
    in terms of how the narrative, how it's discussed,
  • 01:22:38
    how it's discussed depending on who,
  • 01:22:40
    the population impacted is being elevated is,
  • 01:22:44
    it's been racialized in terms of the response,
  • 01:22:47
    but as non-white Americans in this context,
  • 01:22:52
    how do we affirm and ensure the visibility
  • 01:23:00
    of our sisters and brothers
  • 01:23:03
    from other racial and ethnic groups in this conversation?
  • 01:23:07
    A lot of the attention at large in general public
  • 01:23:11
    is a very dichotomous one, it's either black or white,
  • 01:23:15
    but as we've heard over the past hour plus,
  • 01:23:18
    it's not just black and white,
  • 01:23:20
    it's Latino, it's Asian, it's indigenous American.
  • 01:23:25
    It's also black but even within the blackness,
  • 01:23:27
    there's diversity in that.
  • 01:23:29
    How do we hold up each other's struggles
  • 01:23:32
    and ally around each other's respective struggles?
  • 01:23:34
    In other words, I mean Cynthia mentioned this,
  • 01:23:36
    alliance with Black Lives Matter, for example,
  • 01:23:38
    around hate and extremism
  • 01:23:40
    directed towards the API community.
  • 01:23:42
    So that's the question I want to leave for us,
  • 01:23:44
    how do we move forward from this conversation
  • 01:23:47
    in allyship and unity?
  • 01:23:48
    And I would love to hear from from Dr. Broat and Nick,
  • 01:23:51
    especially I wondered if you two could answer that
  • 01:23:54
    but also Sonia and Cynthia.
  • 01:23:55
    I mean I can start and I'd love to hear from others.
  • 01:23:59
    But one thing that I think we need to really talk about
  • 01:24:05
    is the role of social media and disinformation campaigns.
  • 01:24:10
    And that exists within the different Asian communities
  • 01:24:15
    and the different platforms that they are on,
  • 01:24:17
    in which they get most of their news and information.
  • 01:24:20
    And no one is immune, I think, to racist ideology.
  • 01:24:28
    And this is the work
  • 01:24:29
    that I think we have to really focus on
  • 01:24:31
    within our communities.
  • 01:24:33
    I mentioned this before
  • 01:24:35
    that we are part of a network across the country
  • 01:24:38
    that is planning worst case scenarios of mass violence.
  • 01:24:43
    We are looking to our allies in the AMEMSA community
  • 01:24:48
    and learning about what they set up post 9/11.
  • 01:24:52
    This is a time where Asian Americans have been activated
  • 01:24:56
    and have been for decades,
  • 01:24:59
    but it's a time to mobilize in solidarity
  • 01:25:03
    with other communities
  • 01:25:05
    that are also disproportionately affected.
  • 01:25:07
    It's a movement moment.
  • 01:25:09
    It's also a time to call for more investments
  • 01:25:13
    in civic engagement organizations,
  • 01:25:15
    more investments in solidarity work
  • 01:25:18
    that's so essential to our liberation.
  • 01:25:21
    Yeah, I would completely agree and say
  • 01:25:23
    that I also think it's on each of us.
  • 01:25:26
    I love this conversation
  • 01:25:27
    because it is expanding the narrative.
  • 01:25:30
    It's making a complete narrative
  • 01:25:32
    of what is happening right now
  • 01:25:34
    to our country, to all of our communities
  • 01:25:36
    and how we can all take a role in harnessing our power
  • 01:25:40
    to make a different vision for what we want, right?
  • 01:25:44
    The country has changed, it is changing,
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    but we have a lot of power in this group,
  • 01:25:49
    a lot of power in our communities
  • 01:25:51
    that I think comes from these kinds of honest conversations.
  • 01:25:55
    And it is difficult.
  • 01:25:56
    There are difficult conversations about expansion.
  • 01:25:58
    It's not about competition.
  • 01:25:59
    It's not about one or the other.
  • 01:26:02
    It is about how we all benefit
  • 01:26:04
    from equity conversations and from racial justice.
  • 01:26:08
    I think one thing that's been really powerful
  • 01:26:10
    here in Portland, Oregon,
  • 01:26:12
    as the protests and the Black Lives Matter movement
  • 01:26:17
    has really swelled up in a positive way here.
  • 01:26:21
    I know a lot of the media
  • 01:26:22
    shows us many of the negative elements
  • 01:26:24
    of protests and everything,
  • 01:26:26
    but my wife and I,
  • 01:26:28
    we live in a predominantly and historically
  • 01:26:31
    black and native community here in North Portland.
  • 01:26:34
    And just the love and outpouring of inclusion
  • 01:26:38
    that we've had from our community members
  • 01:26:40
    has been really powerful,
  • 01:26:41
    whether it's having a rally of 15,000 people
  • 01:26:45
    walking down our street here,
  • 01:26:46
    and then being just like,
  • 01:26:47
    hey, you guys, we want you to open this up in your language
  • 01:26:52
    with your songs, in your ways.
  • 01:26:54
    And to have people start it like that,
  • 01:26:56
    like that extension of like love
  • 01:27:01
    that we're talking about a little bit here, that undertone,
  • 01:27:04
    has been tremendously powerful for us
  • 01:27:06
    because when I'm up at a large academic health center
  • 01:27:12
    talking to colleagues who may or may not,
  • 01:27:14
    who are predominantly not black or brown,
  • 01:27:17
    they're not the ones who are facing
  • 01:27:20
    the eight and nine times death rate
  • 01:27:22
    that we are in our communities.
  • 01:27:24
    I don't know anybody in my family
  • 01:27:26
    who has been touched by this yet,
  • 01:27:29
    and I can speak and agree and just kind of like hold close
  • 01:27:36
    and empathize with our black and brown brothers and sisters,
  • 01:27:40
    because this is impacting us
  • 01:27:43
    way differently than other people.
  • 01:27:44
    And I think that the love
  • 01:27:46
    that has been shared and extended to us
  • 01:27:48
    as indigenous people,
  • 01:27:50
    knowing that we all rise up through this movement
  • 01:27:54
    as we work together,
  • 01:27:56
    that gives me a tremendous amount of hope.
  • 01:27:58
    And I'm very grateful for this movement and moment
  • 01:28:02
    that also recognizes many of us in this circumstance.
  • 01:28:07
    Thank you so much.
  • 01:28:08
    Thank you so much, Dr. Broat and Kim
  • 01:28:10
    Cynthia and Sonia and all of our panelists and speakers.
  • 01:28:14
    We are over time slightly.
  • 01:28:16
    I do want to hand it off to Don Gips, our CEO,
  • 01:28:19
    to close us out and share the video with you.
  • 01:28:21
    Thank you all the audience members for joining us
  • 01:28:24
    and look forward to future iterations
  • 01:28:26
    of this town hall series.
  • 01:28:27
    Don?
  • 01:28:29
    I can't add much to what Eric just said.
  • 01:28:32
    Just so inspired by all of you
  • 01:28:36
    in the chat, in the audience,
  • 01:28:38
    and our speakers and Jimmy and Cheryl
  • 01:28:40
    for leading this conversation.
  • 01:28:42
    I only wish we had five more hours.
  • 01:28:44
    Thank you everyone and love that
  • 01:28:49
    and let's go make sure everybody votes
  • 01:28:53
    so that we can change some of these systems.
  • 01:28:56
    Thank you everybody.
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