The Best Relationship Advice No One Ever Told You
Résumé
TLDRIn this episode of the Mel Robbins podcast, Mel and her husband Chris discuss pressing relationship questions from their audience, focusing on personal growth, handling disagreements, and navigating societal and familial pressures. They stress that individual happiness is crucial for a healthy marriage. By sharing their own experiences, they illustrate the importance of clear communication and understanding in relationships, especially when dealing with unmet expectations and parenting challenges. The couple underscores that while personal change can be difficult for partners, it is essential for overall relationship health and compatibility. They encourage listeners to focus on self-improvement to enrich their marriages further.
A retenir
- 💬 Open communication is vital for handling disagreements.
- 🌱 Focus on individual growth to enhance your relationship.
- 🚪 Establish boundaries around personal space.
- 👨👩👧👦 Align your values and parenting styles with your partner.
- 📅 Dedicate time each week for shared activities.
- 🤝 Address unmet expectations through clear communication.
- 💔 Understand that pressure from outside sources can be minimized with a united front.
- 🌈 Keep your individuality alive while nurturing your relationship.
- 💡 Change often requires conversation and understanding between partners.
- ❤️ Love yourself first to love your partner better.
Chronologie
- 00:00:00 - 00:05:00
The podcast starts with Mel Robbins and her husband Chris addressing questions from listeners about relationships, personal growth, and navigating life's challenges as a couple. They emphasize the importance of addressing personal issues and self-growth as crucial elements in any relationship. They discuss how individual behaviors can influence one another and highlight the need for open communication about personal growth and its impact on compatibility.
- 00:05:00 - 00:10:00
Mel explains that when one partner is growing and the other is not, it can lead to a fork in the road where they question their compatibility. The duo stresses that while you can't force someone to change, you can influence them, and it's essential to focus on your own growth. They note that this personal focus will naturally bring happiness into the relationship.
- 00:10:00 - 00:15:00
As the conversation progresses, they explore how societal and familial pressures can strain marriage. The need for couples to unite on shared values and parenting styles is underscored as vital for maintaining a strong bond against external pressures.
- 00:15:00 - 00:20:00
They address feelings of distance felt by couples after significant life changes, such as moving or having children, and propose scheduling dedicated time together to reconnect and explore new activities, which can revitalize their relationship.
- 00:20:00 - 00:25:00
Mel and Chris delve into the necessity of personal space within a marriage, discussing the importance of openly communicating about the need for alone time. Establishing boundaries peacefully is a key theme here, allowing each partner to have their personal needs respected and accommodated.
- 00:25:00 - 00:30:00
In discussing parenting disagreements, Chris and Mel highlight the differing approaches they take, which often stem from deep-seated beliefs and past experiences. They encourage parents to communicate and navigate these differences intentionally, emphasizing the importance of collaboration when parenting.
- 00:30:00 - 00:35:00
The duo discusses the significance of maintaining individual identity within a marriage, arguing strongly against losing oneself in the relationship. They argue that self-care and self-improvement lead to a healthier partnership, advocating that happiness comes from within and is vital for relationship strength.
- 00:35:00 - 00:44:11
Finally, they tackle the issue of unmet expectations in relationships. Chris and Mel promote the idea that clarity and communication about needs and expectations are essential to prevent resentment from building up. They provide personal anecdotes to illustrate the necessity of clear dialogue and the importance of perceiving each other's backgrounds to foster a collaborative approach to expectations.
Carte mentale
Vidéo Q&R
How can I handle disagreements in my marriage?
Focus on clear communication, understand each other's perspectives, and find common ground.
What should I do if my partner isn't interested in personal growth?
Invest in your own growth, as it may influence your partner positively, but be aware of compatibility issues.
How do I set boundaries for personal space in a relationship?
Have a conversation about your needs for alone time and establish a routine that respects those boundaries.
How can I deal with external pressures affecting my marriage?
Ensure you and your partner are aligned in your values and address outside opinions as a united front.
What if I feel I'm losing my identity in my marriage?
Focus on personal interests and communicate your needs to your partner.
How can I address unmet expectations in my relationship?
Communicate clearly with your partner about your expectations and what you need from them.
What advice do you have for couples feeling distant after a major life change?
Set aside dedicated time each week for shared activities to reconnect.
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- 00:00:00you have been submitting relationship
- 00:00:02questions my husband Chris and I we are
- 00:00:04going to go one by one through your
- 00:00:06questions do you remember what you
- 00:00:07said no you don't this changed my life
- 00:00:12what you said I don't think this is a
- 00:00:14marriage problem I think it's a you
- 00:00:15problem you'll know when you get to the
- 00:00:17point where it's a fork in the road and
- 00:00:19you're like I don't know if I can be
- 00:00:20with somebody who's like this your
- 00:00:22partner's Behavior influences you I said
- 00:00:25you cannot force someone else to change
- 00:00:27I never said you couldn't influence them
- 00:00:29carve out a dedicated moment in the week
- 00:00:33to do something either familiar or
- 00:00:36totally new I just had a huge Epiphany
- 00:00:39after 30 years of being with you amen
- 00:00:42how do you two handle disagreements this
- 00:00:44is this is the million-dollar
- 00:00:48question hey it's your friend Mel
- 00:00:51welcome to the Mel Robbins podcast it is
- 00:00:53always such a pleasure to be with you
- 00:00:55and to spend time together and if you're
- 00:00:56brand new welcome to the Mel Robbins
- 00:00:58podcast family I am so excited because
- 00:01:01today my husband Chris and I are going
- 00:01:03to be spending time with you answering
- 00:01:06your questions ever since I launched the
- 00:01:08Mel Robbins podcast you have been
- 00:01:10submitting relationship questions to
- 00:01:12melrobbins.com and today is the day and
- 00:01:16we are going to go one by one through
- 00:01:18your questions we're covering so many
- 00:01:20rich and important topics from
- 00:01:22resentment to unmet expectations to what
- 00:01:24to do when you're changing and your
- 00:01:26spouse isn't or your spouse is changing
- 00:01:28and you are not how to agree on
- 00:01:30parenting issues how to deal with
- 00:01:32pressure from your family what to do
- 00:01:34when you start to feel like you're
- 00:01:36either losing yourself in your marriage
- 00:01:37or you're starting to drift apart and so
- 00:01:40much more Chris and I have been together
- 00:01:42for 30 years we have three adult
- 00:01:44children and I'm going to tell you
- 00:01:46something whether you're in a
- 00:01:47relationship right now whether you've
- 00:01:48just started whether you've been
- 00:01:49together for a long time whether you've
- 00:01:51just broken up there is so much that
- 00:01:54you're going to get out of this
- 00:01:55conversation and I'm absolutely thrilled
- 00:01:57to be here with you and by the way if
- 00:01:59you love this format you ask the
- 00:02:01questions I deliver the answers let me
- 00:02:04know and we'll keep on doing it here
- 00:02:06comes Chris so let's get going thanks
- 00:02:08for the invitation so Chris I've got a
- 00:02:10ton of questions from listeners of the
- 00:02:14podcast who have written in and I'm just
- 00:02:18going to read them and then we're going
- 00:02:19to tackle them okay I'm ready all right
- 00:02:22question number one comes from Rachel hi
- 00:02:25I love that you both are always growing
- 00:02:27as individuals I sometimes feel like I'm
- 00:02:28working on myself but my partner isn't
- 00:02:30as focused on personal growth how do you
- 00:02:33two balance working on yourselves
- 00:02:35individually while also nurturing your
- 00:02:37relationship
- 00:02:39together you want to go first
- 00:02:42no you're stalling aren't you to think
- 00:02:45of an answer all right I'll go first
- 00:02:47okay um this is this is the million--
- 00:02:50dooll question for many people why is
- 00:02:52this the million-dollar question because
- 00:02:54it it points to a potential fork in the
- 00:02:58road where somebody is growing and
- 00:03:01somebody
- 00:03:03has outwardly chosen not
- 00:03:07to that's
- 00:03:09true I am G to attack this two ways the
- 00:03:13first thing I'm going to say is this I
- 00:03:15once heard someone say the secret to a
- 00:03:18happy marriage is to marry someone who's
- 00:03:21happy
- 00:03:23and the truth is you cannot make another
- 00:03:26human being happy you can make them a
- 00:03:29cup of coffee coffee you can make some
- 00:03:30reservations you can make the bed that
- 00:03:33you both sleep in but you cannot make
- 00:03:35someone else
- 00:03:36happy you can also not change somebody
- 00:03:39or Force someone to
- 00:03:40grow and the best thing that you can do
- 00:03:44for your relationship is to stop
- 00:03:46focusing on what your partner is doing
- 00:03:49and focus on taking the actions that
- 00:03:53make you a better person that make you a
- 00:03:56happier person invest in your own growth
- 00:03:59because when you do that you naturally
- 00:04:01bring it back to the
- 00:04:03relationship and if you're with somebody
- 00:04:06who is not growing and you are
- 00:04:10growing there will come a time where
- 00:04:12there's a fork in a road because you're
- 00:04:14going to start to probably resent the
- 00:04:17fact or judge the other person for the
- 00:04:19fact that they're not doing the work
- 00:04:21that you're doing and interestingly this
- 00:04:25is an entire section of the let them
- 00:04:28Theory Book an entire section
- 00:04:33because there is a fundamental fact
- 00:04:36about human behavior and it's
- 00:04:39this people only change when they feel
- 00:04:42like
- 00:04:42it and when you pressure another person
- 00:04:46to change or to grow in the ways that
- 00:04:48you are your pressure doesn't create
- 00:04:50change it creates resistance to change
- 00:04:54and so you're right Chris this is a
- 00:04:57conundrum because the fork in the road
- 00:04:59is actually very
- 00:05:01simple as you grow if your partner isn't
- 00:05:05there will come a time where you're not
- 00:05:06going to question your commitment you're
- 00:05:08going to question your
- 00:05:10compatibility and you're going to start
- 00:05:12to ask yourself can I be in a
- 00:05:14relationship with
- 00:05:16someone who is exactly as they are and
- 00:05:19not willing to lean into life and grow
- 00:05:23so think about it as two separate things
- 00:05:26you should always always always be
- 00:05:28investing in your own GR grow and your
- 00:05:30own happiness because the happier you
- 00:05:32are the more happiness you're going to
- 00:05:34bring into your
- 00:05:35relationship but there may come a time
- 00:05:39where you start to question whether or
- 00:05:42not you're compatible and that's a
- 00:05:45completely different thing I struggle
- 00:05:49with that because that does not
- 00:05:52actually I don't see a difference
- 00:05:55between that and
- 00:05:57compatibility because if you're
- 00:06:00committed to growth and development and
- 00:06:06you you demonstrate that through your
- 00:06:08own
- 00:06:10actions and you have the experience that
- 00:06:13your partner is not inspired by his his
- 00:06:18or her own growth or
- 00:06:20development and your actions are not
- 00:06:23rubbing off on that
- 00:06:25person that points to a lack of
- 00:06:28compatibility well well there's two
- 00:06:30things that may be at play and this is
- 00:06:34why I would encourage you if you're
- 00:06:35sitting here going this is becoming a
- 00:06:38lack of compatibility have you even had
- 00:06:40the
- 00:06:41conversation have you sat down and
- 00:06:44talked about how their lack of interest
- 00:06:47in their own growth is impacting you and
- 00:06:50if you haven't had the conversation you
- 00:06:52need to and you need to come at it from
- 00:06:55how it impacts you emotionally how it
- 00:06:58makes you feel like you're not being
- 00:07:00supported how you may be worried about
- 00:07:03them the second thing I want you to
- 00:07:05understand is that when a person in a
- 00:07:09relationship starts to change and grow
- 00:07:11it is extraordinarily confronting and
- 00:07:14scary to their partner and I want to
- 00:07:18share a personal story from our
- 00:07:21relationship that will really illustrate
- 00:07:24the reason why you have to have a
- 00:07:26conversation about what is really going
- 00:07:28on
- 00:07:30in terms of how your partner is
- 00:07:32perceiving all of your growth and change
- 00:07:35so couple years ago you decided Chris
- 00:07:38that you were going to just stop
- 00:07:41drinking and when you said you were
- 00:07:43going to stop drinking which is an
- 00:07:44incredible form of personal growth and
- 00:07:47it's a big change positive change to
- 00:07:50make in your life I was like Yay you go
- 00:07:53be better I love that for you you are
- 00:07:56drinking too much you're exactly right
- 00:07:58and you
- 00:08:00never
- 00:08:02ever shamed me or made a request of me
- 00:08:07to stop drinking you chose to do that
- 00:08:10for your growth and I think that's an
- 00:08:12important point he wasn't doing it for
- 00:08:15me he was doing it for himself because
- 00:08:18adults change when they feel like
- 00:08:20changing and they change for themselves
- 00:08:23so fast forward a couple days Chris is
- 00:08:26not drinking at all and you are the
- 00:08:29least dramatic person I know you never
- 00:08:33complained you never had a fuss about it
- 00:08:36you just
- 00:08:38quietly
- 00:08:39consistently showed up for yourself so
- 00:08:42I'd say it was about the fourth day I'm
- 00:08:45cooking dinner and I open up the fridge
- 00:08:48and I open up a bottle of wine because I
- 00:08:51love cooking dinner and I love cooking
- 00:08:53dinner with a glass of wine in my hand
- 00:08:55and you walk in and I'm like hey would
- 00:08:56you like a glass of
- 00:08:58wine and you said no and I was like oh
- 00:09:01come on it's just a glass of wine and
- 00:09:04you're like Mel I'm not drinking and
- 00:09:05then I'm like well it's kind of just
- 00:09:07like
- 00:09:07juice and you didn't think that was
- 00:09:11funny and as I tell the story I realize
- 00:09:14I look like a complete monster and jerk
- 00:09:18because I am now not only making a joke
- 00:09:21about what you're trying to do I'm
- 00:09:22actively
- 00:09:24undermining the change you're trying to
- 00:09:26make and I'll never forget this you
- 00:09:28looked me Square in the IIs and you said
- 00:09:31do you remember what you said no you
- 00:09:34don't this changed my life what you said
- 00:09:38I got a couple of things you've said to
- 00:09:40me that have changed my life and you
- 00:09:41probably don't even know it yourself
- 00:09:43that's true that's true I've never
- 00:09:45thought about that but this is what you
- 00:09:46said you said Mel no one cares what's in
- 00:09:50your glass but you stop asking me if I
- 00:09:55want to have a drink I have told you I
- 00:09:58am not drinking
- 00:10:00and then I think I was like okay okay
- 00:10:01well I just feel kind of weird like
- 00:10:03having a glass of wine alone and you
- 00:10:05said if you're self-conscious about
- 00:10:08what's in your
- 00:10:09glass then you should be looking in the
- 00:10:12mirror and asking yourself
- 00:10:15why and the point of this story is that
- 00:10:19when someone that you love
- 00:10:23changes you in your mind understand that
- 00:10:27that's good but but as you see the
- 00:10:30person changing and growing and getting
- 00:10:34better it forces you to take a look at
- 00:10:38your own behavior and that is
- 00:10:40extraordinarily
- 00:10:42confronting and I want you to understand
- 00:10:45this because your partner may want to
- 00:10:47grow but they may be stuck in that mode
- 00:10:50where they don't feel like doing it yet
- 00:10:53any pressure any shame it is
- 00:10:571,00% going to
- 00:10:59push them away from
- 00:11:01you and Chris did the best thing in the
- 00:11:04world Chris just carried on and you
- 00:11:06focused on what you wanted to change and
- 00:11:09I'm going to tell you something your
- 00:11:10partner's Behavior influences you I said
- 00:11:14you cannot force someone else to change
- 00:11:16I never said you couldn't influence them
- 00:11:18every time you wake up and you roll out
- 00:11:20of bed an hour and a half earlier than I
- 00:11:22do I hear you get up and it makes me
- 00:11:25think I should do
- 00:11:27that every time you go and you take the
- 00:11:30dogs on a loop I think I should do that
- 00:11:34and that's exactly what your partner is
- 00:11:36thinking whether they're telling you
- 00:11:38that or not and you know when you said
- 00:11:41Chris that it is a compatibility issue
- 00:11:43it's true at some point if your partner
- 00:11:46doesn't ever feel like changing like
- 00:11:48let's say you get sober and you don't
- 00:11:50it's just not going to work for you it's
- 00:11:51a deal breaker to be with somebody who
- 00:11:54drinks that's okay only you know if
- 00:11:58you're in a situ ation based on your
- 00:12:00growth and your partner's lack of growth
- 00:12:02if you've gotten to a point where the
- 00:12:04road forks and this is a deal breaker
- 00:12:07and here's how you can tell if it's a
- 00:12:09deal breaker because I wrote an entire
- 00:12:11section about all this in the let them
- 00:12:14theory if the person never
- 00:12:17changes they keep
- 00:12:19drinking they never take care of their
- 00:12:21health they never address the
- 00:12:24depression they never speak to you
- 00:12:27kindly can you can continue to choose
- 00:12:30them and love them as they are and the
- 00:12:32only way that you're going to be able to
- 00:12:34answer that question is can you end your
- 00:12:36complaining about
- 00:12:37it if you can't end your complaining
- 00:12:40this is a deal
- 00:12:41breaker and based on the research in the
- 00:12:44let them Theory
- 00:12:46Book deal breakers are things that make
- 00:12:50you give up on your dreams and your
- 00:12:53values but the vast majority of stuff
- 00:12:56that people kind of are frustrated about
- 00:12:58are not deal Breakers at all they're
- 00:13:01just differences in what people
- 00:13:03prioritize in their life is there
- 00:13:06anything else you want to
- 00:13:08add I just want to speak to anybody who
- 00:13:11might be on the other side who has not
- 00:13:15embarked on some of these
- 00:13:18changes growth choices what have you
- 00:13:20because I think that when you are in a
- 00:13:23relationship where somebody takes
- 00:13:26off it's easy to sometimes conclude that
- 00:13:30ah well nothing I can do to catch up
- 00:13:34throw my arms up nah I don't need to go
- 00:13:38learn that or try this new thing or or I
- 00:13:41can't and I would just say to those
- 00:13:44people there
- 00:13:46is there is always a perfect time to
- 00:13:50make that choice regardless of what your
- 00:13:53your significant other may or may not
- 00:13:56have
- 00:13:57done this would be the perfect episode
- 00:14:00to send to your partner and open up this
- 00:14:03conversation because what I've found is
- 00:14:05that people also tend to change when
- 00:14:07they're given the space to come to their
- 00:14:09own conclusions and feel like this was
- 00:14:11their decision not their partner's
- 00:14:14decision and this is super important
- 00:14:17because the other thing that happens is
- 00:14:19you start to feel like there's something
- 00:14:21wrong with you which means you're going
- 00:14:24to want to defend yourself if you feel
- 00:14:26like somebody's trying to change you
- 00:14:27it's it's it's part of human wiring and
- 00:14:31so just to kind of close the loop on
- 00:14:34this it is so great that you're
- 00:14:36growing you have to have the
- 00:14:40conversation about how your partner
- 00:14:43feels and how their lack of interest in
- 00:14:47this is making you feel and once you
- 00:14:51have that conversation and you also
- 00:14:54affirm that you love this person and you
- 00:14:58accept them as they are and you
- 00:15:00apologize for pressuring them and you
- 00:15:03ask for what you need for support back
- 00:15:07off back off you have to give someone
- 00:15:10else the space to work through their
- 00:15:12stuff and come to their own
- 00:15:14conclusions and you'll know when you get
- 00:15:16to the point where it's a fork in the
- 00:15:18road and you're like I don't know if I
- 00:15:19can be with somebody who's like this and
- 00:15:22that's when you're at the point where
- 00:15:23you're like is this a deal breaker for
- 00:15:25me and only you know that
- 00:15:30ready for the next one hey Mel society
- 00:15:32and even family sometimes seems to put a
- 00:15:35lot of pressure on my marriage in ways I
- 00:15:37wasn't expecting how do you and Chris
- 00:15:39deal with outside pressures like
- 00:15:40societal expectations or family opinions
- 00:15:43that might impact your relationship I
- 00:15:46got a quote for you A House Divided
- 00:15:49cannot stand what does that mean it
- 00:15:52means pressure from the outside cannot
- 00:15:56tear you and your partner apart it's the
- 00:15:59cracks from within your relationship
- 00:16:01that do that so if outside pressure or
- 00:16:05family's opinions are getting to you and
- 00:16:07your spouse that tells me that you two
- 00:16:10are not on the same page you two need to
- 00:16:13get together and agree on what you value
- 00:16:18and what your parenting style is and why
- 00:16:21and that's what creates a house that is
- 00:16:24together and once you're together there
- 00:16:27is nothing on the outside that can make
- 00:16:29you fall I would also say that if you
- 00:16:32haven't had that
- 00:16:34conversation it's cool to sit together
- 00:16:39and actually
- 00:16:41consider regardless of how many years
- 00:16:43you may be together but what your values
- 00:16:46are and what the other person's values
- 00:16:48are and why and how are they or are they
- 00:16:52not
- 00:16:53even aligned because perception may not
- 00:16:57be reality there you know one of the
- 00:16:59things in writing the let them Theory
- 00:17:01book that I realized when it comes to
- 00:17:04Parenting and families is that when you
- 00:17:06and your partner decide what your values
- 00:17:09are and what your Traditions are and
- 00:17:11what your parenting style and philosophy
- 00:17:13and approach is it is going to be yours
- 00:17:18and if it's different than what you grew
- 00:17:21up in guess what your parents are going
- 00:17:23to see that as some rejection of how
- 00:17:26they did it they're going to take it
- 00:17:28personally it's natural I think when our
- 00:17:30kids grow up and they have families of
- 00:17:32their own if they do things differently
- 00:17:34we'll probably have a little bit of
- 00:17:36like because we know what we know and so
- 00:17:41the other thing to consider is just
- 00:17:43understand that people are going to have
- 00:17:44their opinions let
- 00:17:47them let them be a little bothered that
- 00:17:49you're doing things differently because
- 00:17:51they're now questioning the way they did
- 00:17:53things right and you and your partner
- 00:17:57get on the same page and then there's
- 00:18:00room for both things to be true there's
- 00:18:02room for the old traditions and the ways
- 00:18:05in which you both grew up and then
- 00:18:06there's room for you two to come
- 00:18:09together and figure out how you're going
- 00:18:11to do it for your family super cool
- 00:18:15question all right I'll do the next one
- 00:18:18um this one's from Sarah hey Mel my
- 00:18:21spouse and I have been feeling a bit
- 00:18:23distance after having kids and moving to
- 00:18:24a new city what advice would you give to
- 00:18:27couples who feel like they've started to
- 00:18:29drift apart especially after a big life
- 00:18:33change carve out a dedicated moment in
- 00:18:38the week to do something either familiar
- 00:18:41or totally new I would say you and I
- 00:18:44have we've been talking about getting
- 00:18:46back to doing a dance class together
- 00:18:50that we so loved doing 25 years ago it's
- 00:18:54true this is a good uh whether it's
- 00:18:58dedicated dinner date coffee walk in the
- 00:19:01woods whatever hold the time in your
- 00:19:05calendar Chris and I have just spent the
- 00:19:08last couple years having like a weekly
- 00:19:10therapy session and the best part about
- 00:19:13it wasn't the therapy it was the fact
- 00:19:15that we had a dedicated time in the
- 00:19:17calendar every week during the day once
- 00:19:19a week to come together and just pause
- 00:19:21and talk for 40 minutes about how we
- 00:19:23were doing and you can create that for
- 00:19:26yourself I'm not talking about a date
- 00:19:27night I'm talking about holding space in
- 00:19:29your calendar no phones no children no
- 00:19:33pets just you two and we also just moved
- 00:19:35to a brand new place we lived outside of
- 00:19:38Boston for 26 years where we raised our
- 00:19:41kids for the most part and then moved to
- 00:19:43a small town in southern Vermont where
- 00:19:45we really didn't know a lot of people
- 00:19:48and one of the things that we did is we
- 00:19:51made a point once a week to go try to
- 00:19:53explore something in our new area you
- 00:19:56just moved to a new place that's super
- 00:19:58cool
- 00:19:59find a new hike try a new restaurant
- 00:20:01explore a new neighborhood these are all
- 00:20:03opportunities for you to to learn and
- 00:20:05laugh and grow together which is super
- 00:20:08cool um here's another one Jessica I've
- 00:20:11been married for five years and
- 00:20:12sometimes I just need space but I don't
- 00:20:15want my spouse to feel like I'm pulling
- 00:20:16away how do you and Chris set boundaries
- 00:20:18with each other when it comes to needing
- 00:20:20personal space or alone
- 00:20:22time well I think first you got to have
- 00:20:24a conversation about what constitutes
- 00:20:27aone time what what do you what do you
- 00:20:30need um and what serves you not just
- 00:20:35what what is aone time but when do you
- 00:20:38need it and for how long this isn't a
- 00:20:41problem for me CU I figured out that I
- 00:20:44need aone time and I carved it out with
- 00:20:49you uh and your
- 00:20:51understanding 2 to three hours in the
- 00:20:54morning I get up super early and go do
- 00:20:57whatever my thing is
- 00:20:59whether it's working out or being
- 00:21:00outside or being in the office and I
- 00:21:03think the reason why that really works
- 00:21:06for me is because I laid that out for
- 00:21:09you that I not only need it this is what
- 00:21:11it gives for me and also please do not
- 00:21:15interrupt what I love about that is
- 00:21:17Chris has not negotiated for that and
- 00:21:20pulled time away from me he claimed that
- 00:21:22for himself and you can too you can
- 00:21:25create a morning routine where you get
- 00:21:26alone time and Chris is also really good
- 00:21:29about saying I need to take a couple
- 00:21:32nights out and go on a solo hike in the
- 00:21:34woods and then he also though has the
- 00:21:38consideration to
- 00:21:39go when would it work and we work
- 00:21:43together on carving it out and so the
- 00:21:46really big takeaway here is every single
- 00:21:49person in a relationship has
- 00:21:51needs never expect your partner to read
- 00:21:55your mind never expect your partner to
- 00:21:57just know what those needs are and when
- 00:22:00you need them when you recognize your
- 00:22:03own needs and you respect yourself and
- 00:22:06your partner enough to be able to sit
- 00:22:09down and say hey this is something I
- 00:22:11need this is why I need it can we
- 00:22:13collaborate on when and how this is
- 00:22:15going to work that's when you both win
- 00:22:18oh this is a good one Chris uh this
- 00:22:20comes from Josh hey Mel and Chris my
- 00:22:22wife and I don't always see eye to eye
- 00:22:24when it comes to parenting decisions how
- 00:22:26do you two handle disagreements when it
- 00:22:28comes to raising your kids do you ever
- 00:22:31butt
- 00:22:33heads on how to handle certain
- 00:22:35situations I'm laughing Josh because if
- 00:22:37there's one thing we fight about more
- 00:22:39than anything else what is
- 00:22:41it our kids no why are you asking that
- 00:22:45that that's the only thing I fight with
- 00:22:47you
- 00:22:48about yeah I suppose right about where
- 00:22:51they are how close they are or far they
- 00:22:53are and how to approach situations how
- 00:22:57to solve problems to support and when to
- 00:23:01let them
- 00:23:02struggle and I have anxiety that's
- 00:23:06easily triggered so if there's a problem
- 00:23:10and one of our kids calls I'm a yes
- 00:23:13person I'm a jump in and fix it person
- 00:23:15because it makes me anxious when one of
- 00:23:18our kids is struggling even though I
- 00:23:20know that struggle is important and you
- 00:23:23got to let them struggle because that's
- 00:23:25how you learn but I'm quick to be like
- 00:23:27okay okay okay I'll do I'll do it I'll
- 00:23:29do it whereas you are way more grounded
- 00:23:32and way more patient and we can give you
- 00:23:34some examples this is why don't you tell
- 00:23:36them what happened last night with her
- 00:23:37son yeah Oakley called us and we were
- 00:23:41talking
- 00:23:42about right now he's a freshman and he
- 00:23:45doesn't have a car in school and nor do
- 00:23:48I think that he should have a car in
- 00:23:49school certainly not in this first
- 00:23:52year and uh I mean it's a luxury in
- 00:23:56general but he says oh well you know
- 00:23:58something about next semester you know
- 00:24:00maybe next semester I'll have the car
- 00:24:02and Mel said uh
- 00:24:06great and I was walking by I wasn't even
- 00:24:10barely on the phone call I just heard it
- 00:24:12and thought hang on that's not great
- 00:24:15that's not a good idea at
- 00:24:18all um but what I have to say about that
- 00:24:22question and even this thing that came
- 00:24:24up with Oakley is that it occurred to me
- 00:24:26that um
- 00:24:30while it seems like a simple thing to
- 00:24:34actually stop and reflect on why it is
- 00:24:36that I'm a no and you're a yes and maybe
- 00:24:39consider that an extra two or three
- 00:24:41minutes of conversing about the
- 00:24:44difference that we have is going to
- 00:24:46reveal something larger like I'm not
- 00:24:49even sure why it is that I'm a no you
- 00:24:51just
- 00:24:54actually gave me a fantastic idea
- 00:24:59I just had a huge
- 00:25:00Epiphany after 30 years of being with
- 00:25:02you amen and it goes down to a deeper
- 00:25:09issue which is how do you and your
- 00:25:13partner solve
- 00:25:16problems I am the kind of person that is
- 00:25:18extraordinarily decisive because the
- 00:25:21unknown feels scary to me and I create
- 00:25:27certainty
- 00:25:28and I solve problems by just making a
- 00:25:32decision yes yes yes yes yes yes yes
- 00:25:35ready fire aim correct we know you Mel
- 00:25:38you though are the kind of person that
- 00:25:41stops and thinks so I step the gas you
- 00:25:45tap the brakes and if you call me a yes
- 00:25:49and I call you a no that's where that
- 00:25:52sort of House Divided thing happens and
- 00:25:54our kids use this to their advantage
- 00:25:56non-stop they know that crack is there
- 00:25:58here's the Breakthrough I just not just
- 00:25:59our kids all kids but here's the
- 00:26:01Breakthrough I just had there's a tool
- 00:26:03that you could use if this is you and
- 00:26:05your partner and it's not yes or no it's
- 00:26:08maybe that when you get asked a question
- 00:26:12by one of your kids and your spouse is
- 00:26:14not there or you haven't had as Chris
- 00:26:17calls it your three minute discussion
- 00:26:19about the deeper issue say
- 00:26:22maybe say
- 00:26:24maybe because
- 00:26:26maybe isn't a yes or no it's a
- 00:26:29recognition that I got to talk to your
- 00:26:33mom or
- 00:26:34dad because you're right I don't know
- 00:26:36why I said yes and you don't know why
- 00:26:38you said no but we get caught in this
- 00:26:41and I'll give you another example there
- 00:26:43was a period in our life where our two
- 00:26:46of our kids had just extraordinarily
- 00:26:49acute anxiety to the point where they
- 00:26:51couldn't sleep in their rooms and we're
- 00:26:53talking sixth
- 00:26:54grade that late fourth grade sixth
- 00:26:57somewhere in the sixth to Fourth gr Zone
- 00:26:59and it started whenever when whenever
- 00:27:02the first one grew out of it the second
- 00:27:04one rolled right in by I'm telling you
- 00:27:06there was for three
- 00:27:08years a train of Pitter pattering feet
- 00:27:12long that would come into our bedroom at
- 00:27:15night and we're talking late into
- 00:27:17Elementary School here they had already
- 00:27:19been sleeping through the night then all
- 00:27:21of a sudden anxiety hits and and you
- 00:27:23know they'd come to my side of the bed
- 00:27:24cuz Chris is a no and I'm a yes and I
- 00:27:26would just lift up the sheets and they
- 00:27:28roll right in and It ultimately got to
- 00:27:31the point where Chris and I did have
- 00:27:33that three-minute conversation how do we
- 00:27:34want to handle this what are we going to
- 00:27:36do and neither one of us wanted
- 00:27:38to actually do what we should have done
- 00:27:41which is March them back upstairs every
- 00:27:43single night sit with them until they go
- 00:27:45to sleep and then go back down so we
- 00:27:47just ended up making a bed on the floor
- 00:27:49of our room and if they came
- 00:27:52down that was our rule you can't get in
- 00:27:54bed with us but you can sleep right
- 00:27:56there and that is not parent advice that
- 00:27:58I would recommend I would recommend
- 00:28:00listening to a parenting expert but we
- 00:28:03got on the same page because we had the
- 00:28:06deeper conversation and we looked at the
- 00:28:09options and we made a decision we
- 00:28:11weren't willing to interrupt our sleep
- 00:28:14at that period in our lives to do
- 00:28:18the parenting that was necessary to walk
- 00:28:21them back up and force them to tolerate
- 00:28:25the discomfort and learn how to fall
- 00:28:27back asleep again again Lauren hey Mel
- 00:28:30and Chris you guys have been together
- 00:28:31for a long time how do you both manage
- 00:28:33to keep your individuality and personal
- 00:28:35interest alive while being in such a
- 00:28:37close marriage I sometimes feel like I'm
- 00:28:40losing myself in my marriage you want to
- 00:28:42take that or you want me to no let me
- 00:28:44hear what you have to say to that I
- 00:28:46don't think this is a marriage problem I
- 00:28:47think it's a you problem there is no
- 00:28:50reason why you should lose your identity
- 00:28:52to your marriage in fact the single best
- 00:28:56way to grow your marriage is to
- 00:28:58yourself and if you feel like you're
- 00:29:01losing yourself in your marriage that is
- 00:29:04a massive wakeup call that your purpose
- 00:29:09for the next six months needs to be
- 00:29:11bettering
- 00:29:13yourself whatever it takes to either
- 00:29:15improve your health or improve your
- 00:29:18happiness or improve your sleep or carve
- 00:29:22out time to be creative again to learn
- 00:29:26something new again
- 00:29:28that's not your marriage's issue it's
- 00:29:31yours and your marriage will get way
- 00:29:35better when you start to focus on
- 00:29:39becoming a better version of yourself
- 00:29:41anything you'd add yeah just that I mean
- 00:29:44it it's an
- 00:29:46excellent point and question when I
- 00:29:49think about even a lot of the men that I
- 00:29:53have spent time with who can you give
- 00:29:56everybody a little EX what what do you
- 00:29:58mean men you've spent time with I I host
- 00:30:02a men's retreat called Soul degree
- 00:30:06where couple times a year 12 of us
- 00:30:09Circle up in a remote location and spend
- 00:30:145 days together uh diving into the
- 00:30:16things that matter and often one of
- 00:30:19those
- 00:30:20conversations revolves
- 00:30:22around uh our own needs and identifying
- 00:30:26our needs and even to the point where
- 00:30:30there are men who haven't taken the time
- 00:30:33to even identify what might be let's say
- 00:30:36a hobby that actually fuels them and so
- 00:30:41this concept of keeping your
- 00:30:44individuality and your personal
- 00:30:46interests alive and looking after you is
- 00:30:51not always so intuitive for people to be
- 00:30:54able to actually zoom out and say okay
- 00:30:58yeah this even if they're not thinking
- 00:31:00about how do I remain individual in my
- 00:31:03relationship it's the zoom out and sort
- 00:31:06of seeing or taking the time to
- 00:31:08determine these are things that I need
- 00:31:11for myself which will naturally Foster
- 00:31:15that that sense of chasing your own
- 00:31:18interest well what ends up happening if
- 00:31:20you don't do what Chris is telling you
- 00:31:21to do which is maybe you've never even
- 00:31:25asked yourself what do I need what am I
- 00:31:28interested in what are some things that
- 00:31:30I want to do with my life because this
- 00:31:32may be a news flash to you but you were
- 00:31:34not put on this planet to just be
- 00:31:36somebody's
- 00:31:37spouse and if you don't have a purpose
- 00:31:42for yourself you will resent your
- 00:31:45marriage because you'll blame your
- 00:31:47marriage for the fact that you don't
- 00:31:49have a purpose that is individual and if
- 00:31:52you don't know what that purpose is I
- 00:31:53will tell you what it is it's making
- 00:31:56yourself your purpose improving yourself
- 00:31:59investing in yourself uh forming better
- 00:32:02habits taking a class spending time with
- 00:32:04your friends if you make bettering
- 00:32:06yourself your sole purpose for the next
- 00:32:09six months it will improve your marriage
- 00:32:11because you'll stop looking at your
- 00:32:12marriage as the solution to your
- 00:32:15unhappiness and you'll see that you are
- 00:32:18always the source of your happiness that
- 00:32:22you are the solution to any problem that
- 00:32:24you face and when you get
- 00:32:28happier and when you grow you then bring
- 00:32:30all that back into the
- 00:32:34marriage the guys out there are like oh
- 00:32:36okay so now I should just go play 72
- 00:32:38holes of
- 00:32:40golf yeah within reason you got to you
- 00:32:42got within reason I was think you but
- 00:32:44but but here here's the difference that
- 00:32:46doesn't mean pack up your golf bags and
- 00:32:48drive away for the weekend it means
- 00:32:50sitting down with your partner and going
- 00:32:52I've realized something I've really lost
- 00:32:54myself in my role as my SP as a spouse
- 00:32:57and as a parent Ken and I in the next 6
- 00:33:01months am going to do some work to try
- 00:33:03to improve myself and focus a little bit
- 00:33:05on my health and my happiness and I want
- 00:33:07to do that because I want our
- 00:33:09relationship to get better and one thing
- 00:33:12that I've really missed is being able to
- 00:33:15play golf on the weekends with my
- 00:33:17friends I'm lonely it would it be okay
- 00:33:20if I if I take off Saturday and I'm gone
- 00:33:23all day and I go your spouse would be
- 00:33:25like oh my God please because you're
- 00:33:27driving me crazy and you're sad and I
- 00:33:29would love to see you happy again but
- 00:33:31there's that
- 00:33:33consideration of once you understand
- 00:33:35your needs
- 00:33:36communicate communicate all right here's
- 00:33:39a great question from Anna hey M and
- 00:33:42Chris I feel like unmet expectations of
- 00:33:45my relationship often lead to resentment
- 00:33:48which is hard to shake how do you guys
- 00:33:50handle disappointments or unmet
- 00:33:53expectations with each other without
- 00:33:55letting them build into something bigger
- 00:33:58oh I love this question unmet
- 00:34:00expectations they rise in all
- 00:34:03forms it could be feeling like the
- 00:34:06amount of effort that you're both
- 00:34:07putting in isn't equal it might be
- 00:34:12expectations about money and how much
- 00:34:15you're contributing financially or
- 00:34:17whether or not you're ambitious and
- 00:34:20going after it or going after that
- 00:34:22bigger job it might be something like uh
- 00:34:25that we've struggled with which is the
- 00:34:27kind of Disconnect on birthdays and
- 00:34:31celebrating and
- 00:34:33holidays and for
- 00:34:36me at
- 00:34:39the source of every moment where I've
- 00:34:42either been disappointed in you or I've
- 00:34:45had unmet
- 00:34:47expectations that left me feeling either
- 00:34:49angry or
- 00:34:51disappointed the truth is there was a
- 00:34:54utter lack of communication on my part
- 00:34:58about what I wanted and
- 00:35:01why it's not that you disappointed me
- 00:35:05it's that I disappointed and let myself
- 00:35:08down because I didn't identify and ask
- 00:35:11for what I needed nobody can meet your
- 00:35:13expectations if they don't know what
- 00:35:15they are and that's not your partner's
- 00:35:18responsibility to mind read it's yours
- 00:35:20to open your mouth and actually
- 00:35:22communicate clearly what you need and
- 00:35:25why you need it
- 00:35:28if you do that and then your partner
- 00:35:31doesn't do it now you can be
- 00:35:34disappointed yeah but I remember a time
- 00:35:37when I
- 00:35:38didn't I didn't meet your birthday
- 00:35:42expectations which was actually throwing
- 00:35:44a party exactly that's what it's
- 00:35:46precisely party but you didn't
- 00:35:49communicate that so there we go because
- 00:35:53I'm like what kind of a doesn't
- 00:35:54know that you want a party on your
- 00:35:55birthday well and I'm just I'm saying
- 00:35:57that to illustrate a point which is that
- 00:36:00often there is a the missed opportunity
- 00:36:04to communicate that or just to your
- 00:36:06point not even thinking well I don't
- 00:36:07need to tell them that of course I want
- 00:36:09a party and I want to make sure there's
- 00:36:10a 100 people there and a massive cake
- 00:36:12and balloons and confetti and the rest
- 00:36:15of it
- 00:36:18but uh your point is well taken which is
- 00:36:21communicate what you need or want and I
- 00:36:24want to be responsible that when I
- 00:36:26quipped what kind of doesn't know
- 00:36:28that that was me 10 years ago that's
- 00:36:31what unmet expectations and resentment
- 00:36:33sounds like that's what will kill your
- 00:36:36relationship Death By A Thousand Cuts
- 00:36:39what is he what is she out to
- 00:36:41lunch that sort of energy and
- 00:36:45tone is what
- 00:36:47fuels these just cracks in otherwise
- 00:36:52solid
- 00:36:53foundation and you're
- 00:36:55right that wasn't on you it was on me
- 00:36:58cuz I had never even explained that this
- 00:37:01mattered to me I just sat there silently
- 00:37:05and was mad at you that you didn't just
- 00:37:08know and that's a really important thing
- 00:37:12to take away from this question in
- 00:37:14particular which is don't ever assume
- 00:37:16that your partner
- 00:37:17knows instead take responsibility for
- 00:37:20making sure they do know what you need
- 00:37:22and why you need it which makes them way
- 00:37:26more empowered to be able to rise up and
- 00:37:30act like the partner that you really
- 00:37:32want and need in life like the more that
- 00:37:34I've told you what I need you're like oh
- 00:37:36that's easy this is a heck of a lot
- 00:37:38easier if you just give me a list than
- 00:37:40sitting there resenting me wishing I had
- 00:37:42somehow known
- 00:37:44this yeah and I think when it when it
- 00:37:46deals with things that you and I need as
- 00:37:49individuals that's one thing but this
- 00:37:51conversation also makes me think about
- 00:37:53how complex this can be when it comes to
- 00:37:56the the the question about parenting
- 00:37:58issues and how do you resolve that and
- 00:38:01because those are expectations that you
- 00:38:03would have otherwise never talked about
- 00:38:06before or assumed I remember when once I
- 00:38:10the first time that a kid of ours could
- 00:38:13get his herself home in My Mind by like
- 00:38:18a tax oh we'll just send a taxi to the
- 00:38:20airport or what have you you
- 00:38:22were you nearly died you were like are
- 00:38:25you out of your mind no no no we're
- 00:38:27driving to the airport we're going to go
- 00:38:29pick that person up that's how we do it
- 00:38:32and again that was didn't even occur to
- 00:38:36me because I always had you know my
- 00:38:38parents were sending taxis for me to the
- 00:38:40airport so but this I've got a lot to
- 00:38:43say about that by the way not only to
- 00:38:46your parents but also uh to your
- 00:38:49therapist but this is a this is a really
- 00:38:51important Nuance so one of our kids was
- 00:38:52flying home from college and Chris was
- 00:38:54like oh we'll just send an Uber I'm like
- 00:38:57what planet do you live on send an Uber
- 00:39:01to get your kid when they're
- 00:39:05what but I'm talking about dealing with
- 00:39:08that expectation real time which is
- 00:39:10often the way in which these things get
- 00:39:12flushed out and it did in that
- 00:39:14conversation and here's the bigger thing
- 00:39:18my lived experience was where a pick you
- 00:39:21up at the curb airport family in fact if
- 00:39:23we can get good parking we'll come
- 00:39:24inside and wait for you that is a show
- 00:39:27of love you lived in London and outside
- 00:39:31of New York City for most of your life
- 00:39:33and your dad was always traveling and so
- 00:39:36taxis were kind of a way of life and you
- 00:39:39were simply making a decision out of
- 00:39:42your lived experience it's what you knew
- 00:39:45and by the way same with me and a lot of
- 00:39:48times that's also where this disconnect
- 00:39:51and expectations come from that I just
- 00:39:54expect you to do things the way that
- 00:39:56I've always done them and you do the
- 00:39:58same and this is the greatest
- 00:40:00opportunity you get to co-create your
- 00:40:02relationship the whole point of the
- 00:40:04relationship is not to turn each other
- 00:40:06into each other it's not to jam your
- 00:40:09expectations or way of doing things down
- 00:40:11someone else's throat it's to come
- 00:40:13together and to learn from each other
- 00:40:15and to take the time to understand where
- 00:40:17the other person is coming from and then
- 00:40:20figure out
- 00:40:22together what you're going to do from
- 00:40:24there and what I've learned from this
- 00:40:26conversation is I'm I'm going to start
- 00:40:28saying maybe a whole lot more when our
- 00:40:31kids are asking us about anything
- 00:40:34anything else you want to add
- 00:40:36H just that I love you and I love your
- 00:40:40comment about co-creating because you
- 00:40:43could you can fall in and out of that
- 00:40:47process of feeling like hey we can
- 00:40:49create this however we
- 00:40:51want there's something very inspiring
- 00:40:53and freeing about knowing that every day
- 00:40:56you get up whether it's a parenting
- 00:40:57issue or what you and I are dealing with
- 00:41:00and can start over I also think that the
- 00:41:04um cool thing about stopping and
- 00:41:07understanding what's underneath it it
- 00:41:10allows you to
- 00:41:12understand what to give more weight
- 00:41:15to like if the deeper reason is really
- 00:41:18deep for you then I'm going to always
- 00:41:20defer to
- 00:41:22you and you do that with me and you know
- 00:41:25there's one other thing that I want to
- 00:41:26share and it's this I recently heard
- 00:41:28somebody
- 00:41:29say that second marriages are amazing
- 00:41:34especially when they're with the same
- 00:41:36person and I love that
- 00:41:40because
- 00:41:42every day that you wake up you have an
- 00:41:44opportunity to create a second marriage
- 00:41:46with the same person and that's the
- 00:41:48power of understanding that your
- 00:41:50marriage is this organic thing that
- 00:41:52grows over time as you both grow and
- 00:41:55there's always something that you can
- 00:41:56learn
- 00:41:57in any crisis any question any decision
- 00:42:01if you're willing to not lean away from
- 00:42:03each other but to lean into each
- 00:42:07other I love you Chris Robbins I love
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- 00:42:25for uh asking such important and
- 00:42:31really I think profound and relevant
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- 00:42:40in case no one else tells you this to
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- 00:42:46create a better life and there's no
- 00:42:47doubt in my mind that when
- 00:42:49you
- 00:42:52both figure out what you need and you
- 00:42:55really work on making yourself happy and
- 00:42:58a better version of yourself and you
- 00:42:59bring that back into your
- 00:43:01relationships those relationships are
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- 00:43:17when that happens it always brings you
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