Moral Objectivism vs. Relativism

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Résumé

TLDRThis lecture examines moral objectivism and moral relativism, referencing the emotional responses to tragic events like the Rwanda genocide to question whether moral judgments stem from objective truths or cultural perceptions. It discusses the appeal of moral relativism, stemming from the diversity of moral standards across cultures and the difficulties in defining moral facts. The lecture addresses two types of relativism: cultural and subjective, providing rationale for ethical relativism, while also pointing out contradictions inherent in these views. It argues for the validity of moral objectivism without asserting absolutism, suggesting that ethical principles can evolve for a better alignment with reality.

A retenir

  • 🤔 Moral objectivism vs. moral relativism sparks deep philosophical inquiry.
  • 💔 The Rwanda genocide illustrates extreme moral violations.
  • 🌍 Different cultures can have vastly different moral values.
  • 📖 The diversity thesis underpins many relativistic arguments.
  • ⚖️ Conventionalism offers a culturally-bound perspective on ethics.
  • 🔍 Distinguishing description from prescription is crucial in ethical discussions.
  • ➕ Ethical objectivism allows for flexibility in moral principles.
  • ✋ Ethical absolutism can be difficult to justify in all situations.
  • 🤝 Tensions between ethical principles can refine moral values.
  • 🎓 The lecture emphasizes the need for ongoing ethical examination.

Chronologie

  • 00:00:00 - 00:05:00

    The lecture focuses on the distinction between moral objectivism and moral relativism, emphasizing the importance of understanding whether moral feelings are connected to reality. The Rwanda genocide is used as a case study to illustrate how people often have emotional responses to tragic events, leading to questions about the objectivity of moral principles. The necessity to define what constitutes a moral fact is highlighted, suggesting a need for clarity in the field of ethics, akin to discussions on health.

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    The discussion then moves towards cultural relativism, where different cultures have varying moral values that are accepted in their respective societies. This leads to the dependency thesis, which posits that morality arises from social customs and is influenced by historical context. By combining the diversity thesis with the dependency thesis, the idea of ethical relativism emerges, which claims that no universal moral principles apply to all cultures.

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    It is argued that while ethical relativism, particularly in its conventional form, offers an attractive stance for its capacity to promote tolerance, it also has contradictions. The claim that no moral principles are universally valid undermines the very basis for advocating tolerance, as it makes every moral position equally valid, leading to unacceptable moral conclusions. The discussion concludes with a commitment to moral objectivism, suggesting that while moral principles can vary, some should be generally adhered to, allowing for refinement and adaptation within ethical frameworks.

Carte mentale

Vidéo Q&R

  • What are moral objectivism and moral relativism?

    Moral objectivism asserts that moral principles are universal and not dependent on individual's or cultures' beliefs, while moral relativism claims that moral values are culture-specific and subjective.

  • What is the Rwanda genocide example used for?

    The Rwanda genocide is used to illustrate strong moral reactions and discuss whether these feelings reflect objective moral truths.

  • What is the diversity thesis?

    The diversity thesis states that different cultures possess different moral values, leading to an argument for ethical relativism.

  • What does conventionalism refer to?

    Conventionalism is a form of ethical relativism that grounds morality in the customs and practices of a specific cultural group.

  • What is the difference between description and prescription in ethics?

    Description refers to observing facts about moral values in cultures, while prescription suggests that those values ought to be adhered to, which is a logical leap.

  • What does the lecture assume about ethical objectivism?

    The lecture assumes a degree of ethical objectivism, which involves valid moral principles that generally apply but may sometimes be overridden.

  • How does ethical objectivism differ from ethical absolutism?

    Ethical objectivism accepts that moral rules generally apply but can be overridden, whereas ethical absolutism believes certain moral principles must never be violated.

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    perceptions to match an objective
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    reality this notion is a fairly Common
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    the way that a tree actually is
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    so now when it comes to the question of
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    whether moral principles are objective
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    or relative what we are trying to do is
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    discover whether or not the process of
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    learning applies to
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    ethics in other words we all know that
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    we have moral feelings so when we
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    witness say a tragic event like the
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    Rwanda genocide in the early
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    1990s this was an event where a group of
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    people known as the hus who were part of
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    the majority people group in Rwanda
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    decided to arm themselves with machetes
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    clubs blunt objects and other weapons to
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    systematically rape Mame and kill their
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    Tootsie neighbors this was a genocide
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    that lasted for about a 100 days and
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    somewhere between 500,000 and a million
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    people were killed during that time
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    period now when we witness an event like
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    the Rwanda genocide we will likely have
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    emotions that caus us to think that such
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    tragedies are Not Mere tragedies but
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    they're also deeply immoral we might
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    even use words like Wicked or deplorable
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    to describe them these are the feelings
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    of moral judgment and the question we
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    need to ask is this are those feelings
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    connected to anything that is real
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    outside of our mere
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    perceptions if you answer yes to this
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    question then you would be a moral
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    objectivist if you answer no to this
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    question then you would be a moral
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    relativist and one of the reasons why
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    moral relativism has philosophical
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    appeal is because there are difficulties
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    in defining what is meant by a moral
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    fact so we all know what physical facts
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    are but what exactly is a moral fact
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    this question is much harder to Define
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    and so maybe it would be helpful for us
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    to begin with an analogy using the
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    concept of Health in one of the assigned
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    videos for this week you will hear
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    philosopher and neuroscientist Sam
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    Harris explained that the concept of
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    morality is much like the concept of
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    Health like morality health is also a
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    difficult concept to Define and yet the
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    concept is not
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    unintelligible we can see this by asking
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    the question of which drink is more
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    healthy orange juice or apple juice well
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    there might be significant debate on
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    this question and perhaps this is a
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    question that we will never be able to
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    answer but note this does not mean that
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    therefore the concept of health is
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    incomprehensible consider a similar
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    question which is healthier to drink
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    apple juice or
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    Drano now Drano is a drain cleaning
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    product that you pour in your sink to
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    get rid of
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    clogs well the answer to this question
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    is not that difficult we know that
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    drinking Drano will kill you whereas
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    drinking apple juice will
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    not recognizing this distinction
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    highlights that even though the concept
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    of health is difficult to Define in a
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    precise manner it is nonetheless an
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    intelligible concept that allows us to
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    determine the difference between healthy
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    foods and
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    poisons the concept of morality is
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    similar to this so now if I was to ask
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    ask you the question which acts are more
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    moral building a house for Habitat for
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    Humanity or serving at a Food Kitchen
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    well this question might not have an
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    answer but again it does not mean that
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    the concept of morality is
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    unintelligible to see this we only need
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    to point out the extremes on the moral
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    Continuum for example if I was to ask
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    you which is more ethical participating
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    in the Rwanda genocide or building a
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    house for Habitat for Humanity the
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    answer to this question should be
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    obvious and in the lecture by Sam Harris
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    he uses this moral Continuum as he calls
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    it to demonstrate why moral values are
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    not vague or relative
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    Concepts well this may seem simple
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    enough but we should ask why would some
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    then argue that moral values are
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    relative well to answer this question we
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    need to make some important distinctions
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    to understand what is meant by ethical
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    relativism and the first distinction
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    that we need to make is that of cultural
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    relativism or what poyan calls in his
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    article the diversity
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    thesis this thesis highlights that
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    different cultures do have different
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    moral values so on your screen we have
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    culture a versus culture B and so you
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    can imagine a culture culture a where it
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    is a moral duty to benefit an elderly
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    person by taking her life when she gets
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    older now that
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    certainly uh represents values that we
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    would not in our culture agree with but
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    then we could also Imagine culture B
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    where it is morally forbidden to take
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    the life of an elderly person so here
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    you have two cultures that have two
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    distinct views very different views
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    contrary views on what is considered
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    morally valuable and morally good or we
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    consider a culture where it's morally
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    permissible to promote racism and
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    segregation we can certainly think of
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    cultures that have promoted this um in
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    the past and we could think of cultures
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    that promote um these types of ideals
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    today versus another culture culture B
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    where racism is morally wrong no matter
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    the motivation or the
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    cause we could think of many examples
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    where different cultures have very
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    different moral values and so this
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    diversity thesis the fact that different
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    cultures do have different moral values
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    then leads to another thesis which we
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    call the dependency
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    thesis this thesis states that
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    morality is the set of common rules
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    habits and Customs that have won social
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    approval over time so that they seem
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    part of the nature of things
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    as facts there's nothing mysterious or
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    Transcendent about these codes or
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    behaviors rather they are the outcomes
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    of our social
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    history so now when you
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    combined the diversity thesis with the
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    dependency thesis many will argue that
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    this provides a foundation for ethical
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    relativism and so to understand this
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    argument I would refer you to the pyman
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    article posted on D2L
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    and in that article pyman explains in
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    different
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    cultures if different cultures have
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    different moral values which would be
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    cultural
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    relativism and if those moral values are
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    binding only for people who live in that
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    particular culture then it follows that
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    there are no Universal moral principles
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    that are valid for all cultures and all
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    people at all
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    times we will briefly evaluate this
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    argument in a moment but but before we
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    do let's turn to another claim mentioned
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    by poan and that is the claim of
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    subjective ethical
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    relativism this position states that
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    morality is in the eye of each
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    individual Beholder so now we're not
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    talking about cultures broadly speaking
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    we're talking about how each individual
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    is able to come up with his or her own
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    system of moral values so no one person
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    or no no group of people can judge
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    another person's moral values or moral
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    views this would be subjective ethical
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    relativism and in short it states that
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    just as different societies have
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    different moral values the same thing
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    applies to different
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    individuals so pyman argues that if this
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    perspective were correct then some
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    absurd consequences would follow such as
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    Adolf Hitler would be just as moral as
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    Gandhi or judging another person is just
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    as moral as not judging another person
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    or we might say that promoting racism
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    would be just as moral as fighting
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    Against
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    Racism so because of these uh
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    contradictory positions that one could
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    hold poan concludes that radical
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    individualistic relativism seems
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    incoherent
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    he argues therefore that the only
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    plausible form of ethical relativism
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    would be one that grounds morality in a
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    group or a culture and this form of
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    relativism is called
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    conventionalism so now as we're looking
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    at conventionalism we might ask what
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    makes this view
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    attractive well one of the things that
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    makes it attractive is that it seems to
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    undermind intolerance
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    and it seems to undermine
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    ethnocentrism um so we know that it
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    feels wrong at least from our culture it
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    feels wrong to judge another culture's
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    moral practices by comparing those
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    practices to the moral sensibilities of
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    our own culture um something inherently
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    feels wrong to us about that and and we
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    might ask the question well who says our
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    culture is right
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    because couldn't it be the case that
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    another person's culture that they might
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    judge us on our moral practices by
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    comparing them to the moral
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    sensibilities of their culture so if
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    they can do it to us and we do it to
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    them who says that our culture is right
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    uh there is something that I think is
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    inherently attractive about this
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    position uh especially giving the moral
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    sensibilities of those who are raised in
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    cultures where tolerance acceptance were
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    taught as foundational moral
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    values but poyan points out that this is
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    actually where the problem with this
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    position
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    arises he writes The View contains a
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    contradiction if no moral principles are
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    universally
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    valid how can tolerance be universally
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    valid whence comes its
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    validity if morality is simply relative
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    to each culture and if the culture does
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    not promote a principle of
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    intolerance then its members have no
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    obligation to be tolerant from a
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    relativistic point of view there is no
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    more reason to be tolerant than to be
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    intolerant and neither stance is
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    objectively morally better than the
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    other and so pman goes on to say if
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    conventional relativism is
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    accepted then racism genocide of
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    unpopular minorities oppression of the
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    poor
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    slavery and even the advocacy of War for
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    its own sake are equally moral as their
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    opposites and this seems to be
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    unacceptable from po men's perspective
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    because it promotes um a contradiction
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    when it comes to moral values
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    but poan also points out a logical flaw
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    in conventional relativism by arguing
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    that it makes an unwarranted
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    slide he says the argument for
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    conventional relativism starts with this
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    premise we observe that different
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    cultures have different moral
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    rules and so this is something that we
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    can all agree upon poan doesn't doubt it
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    we all observe that different cultures
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    have different moral r rules but then we
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    move to this conclusion that doesn't
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    follow
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    logically we conclude on the first
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    premise that no culture set of rules are
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    better than any other culture set of
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    rules and this just does not logically
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    follow and to see that it doesn't
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    logically follow we might note the
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    distinction between description versus
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    prescription so description is where you
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    describe something
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    such as we describe the phenomena that
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    different cultures have different moral
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    values we can describe that we know that
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    it's a fact but then we move from
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    description to prescription and say
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    therefore different cultures ought to
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    have different moral values to see the
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    fallacy in this type of reasoning
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    consider a different example in a math
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    class we might observe that different
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    students provide different answers to
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    the same math
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    equation well this doesn't mean
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    therefore that different students ought
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    to provide different answers to the same
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    math equation to make that type of
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    argument is to confuse the distinction
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    between description versus
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    prescription and so the unwarranted
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    slide that pman is talking about is that
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    ethical
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    diversity does not imply ethical
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    relativism they are two distinct things
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    and we must not confuse them because it
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    might be the case that some more moral
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    systems are simply wrong just like some
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    students simply get wrong answers on a
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    math equation so it might be the case
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    that different cultures and different
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    individuals get different moral
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    principles wrong whereas other cultures
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    get them right and so now this moves us
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    into talking about ethical
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    objectivism so you need to note that for
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    this class the material that we're going
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    to be covering assumes some sort of
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    degree
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    of ethical
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    objectivism now note this does not
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    entail ethical
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    absolutism the absolutist believes that
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    there are non overridable moral
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    principles that ought to never be
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    violated well this absolutist position
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    seems difficult to defend because one
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    can always find a situation where moral
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    principles don't seem to apply so we
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    might take line for example well in
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    general not ly seems like a good moral
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    principle but it doesn't take much work
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    to think of scenarios where lying would
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    be morally
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    permissible and so moral objectivism
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    doesn't claim that you have to have
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    moral values that apply in every
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    possible
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    situation rather what moral objectivism
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    argues for is that there are valid rules
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    of action that should generally be
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    adhered to not always but generally but
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    that may also be overridden by another
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    moral principle in cases of moral
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    conflict and so this is the general
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    position that our class is built upon
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    and that is the position that allows us
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    to look at different ethical principles
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    throughout the semester so we're going
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    to examine some of the more plausible
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    ethical principles that have been
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    proposed by philosophers and ethesis
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    throughout Western
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    philosophy and through this study
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    we will find that between these
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    different principles whether we're
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    talking about the utilitarian principle
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    or the libertarian principle or the
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    egalitarian principle we will find that
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    occasionally there are tensions between
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    these
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    principles but these tensions I want to
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    argue do not undermine the notion of
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    objective moral
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    values rather these tensions provide
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    opportunities for us to continually
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    refine and find tune our moral
  • 00:17:30
    principles so that those principles
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    would more accurately correspond to
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    reality
Tags
  • moral objectivism
  • moral relativism
  • ethical principles
  • cultural differences
  • Rwanda genocide
  • Sam Harris
  • conventionalism
  • description vs prescription
  • subjective ethics
  • ethical absolutism