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there is yet another cursor in vs code
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competitor and this one is interesting
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because it's not by some VC funded
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startup trying to make a bunch of money
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or an open source group trying to clone
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the things they like this one's by Tik
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Tock yes it's a bite Dance Project it's
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named Trey it's currently free I don't
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know if they plan on charging or if
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it'll be banned in the Tik Tok ban or
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whatever else is going on but I figured
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we could all go on this journey together
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I just installed it I have yet to even
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set it up but I'm excited to experience
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Trey with you all and see if this is the
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future of how we do development with AI
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or if it's just a weird s project that's
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going to die it's only one way to figure
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which is still a really good solution
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we're not pretending that playright is
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that they will automatically pick the
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right agent for tasks it's kind of
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annoying swapping between them I've even
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made mistakes when I like was doing some
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gen earlier
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where I had this set to 01 cuz I was
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doing some annoyingly difficult stuff I
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keep this on Sonet most of the time I
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forgot to switch off and it's like wow
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this is taking so long to solve a basic
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problem and then remembered oh this is a
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basic problem I need to switch that
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button
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annoying they don't do that which is
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interesting chat to build a project
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faster in Builder mode Trey will
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automatically break down and execute
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tasks optimizing each step while letting
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you preview and control the process okay
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so it has an agentic flow upload images
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to clarify requirements
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that feels like it doesn't deserve a
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section in your homepage but it's cool
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they have it get better results with
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full context you can tell it what files
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matter everyone has this feature now but
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it is effectively essential I will say
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the UI actually looks pretty nice
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curious how it looks on my smaller
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screen only one way to find that out
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boost efficiency with smart completion
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cool everyone has that it's Love by devs
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get started for free I'm guessing
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they'll eventually charge if it does
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well but right now it seems to be
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entirely free let's set it
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up started dark
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English
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continue oh look at that they even have
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an import from cursor not install on the
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TR command I have to log in to access
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the AI features fun log in and open
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tray that was pretty
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smooth and here we are this does not
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appear to
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be vs code based oh wait no it is my
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extensions are in here I like my test
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for that let me open a random project
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something I don't care about them having
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how about Quick Pick that'll be a fun
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test oh yeah this is this is VSS code
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for sure I will say it looks nice it
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looks a lot better than the other clones
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like cursor the lack of like good splits
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between sections means it's hard to grab
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something there everything's a little
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too big I can command minus which helps
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a bit but nah it's it I'm not going to
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pretend VSS code is pretty this is
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actually pretty and is using the screen
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real estate a lot better than VSS code
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does and if I have multiple things open
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here like my next config some component
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here pusx it doesn't give you enough
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context on like which page TSX is which
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if I have multiple open oh yeah it does
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cool when you have two files of the same
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name it does the right thing there this
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is one of the better looking vs code
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clones I I take back what I said about
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it using the real estate wall though cuz
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it's by not putting these higher up
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you're now very deep in but if you have
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a big screen or you're a normal person
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not running at 720p it's actually
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probably pretty nice apparently this is
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what the jet brains UI looks like yeah
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I'm not really seeing the similarity
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here maybe maybe the the way the tab bar
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being like inset slightly works it's
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literally Fleet what's Fleet okay I take
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back what I said this is this is
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identical fine they they are copying jet
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brains just not their normal code editor
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I forgot about Fleet because I don't
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personally use or think much about jet
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brain stuff but it's a good UI they
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copied from a good place but that is
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actually hilarious I really like how the
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parts are separated in the overall look
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of this enough that I'm not like
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immediately annoyed like I am with a lot
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of these vs Forks this has actual PRS
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actually I like the file view a lot but
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none of that is what we're here for what
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we here for is the AI so let's give it a
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go one of the challenges I gave the AI
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for this project before was to add a
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feature where it would on the Square
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image generator it would pick something
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from the background like the most common
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color and make it Square using that so
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like this should not have a white
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background and I have white white and
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black as options here which is nice but
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be cool if you didn't have to pick and
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it could somehow take advantage of the
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context it has from the photo to figure
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out what color makes the most sense so
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let's see if Trey is smart enough via
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Claude they're only offering Sonet and
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40 interesting I would have expected
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since this is by bite dance they would
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have supported some of the crazier work
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going on with the like Chinese open
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source models like deep seek in
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particular but it's just clad and 40
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interesting also when you know how
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expensive CLA is you understand why it's
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weird they're offering this at all that
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is a that is expensive I want to give
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this some hard problems though we'll
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start with the builder which is in beta
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thankfully does it know what file we are
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in right now go smart enough to use the
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one I'm in right now when a user
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uploads picture we should analyze it to
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figure out what color is most common on
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the border and use that as the
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default color or the default background
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color we shall see how it does
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interesting it's multip steps I saw it
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stop and then start again so their
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system prompt asks how do we solve the
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problem and then it reprompt saying okay
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we have this let's do it I don't like
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that it's not showing us the code gen
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happening it's just doing it interesting
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you don't see the streamed in responses
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figuring it
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out but it does throw it here I actually
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I I'm really liking the UI of this that
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it puts the this here I feel like a lot
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of the UI and cursor is stuffed random
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places I should have given the the bias
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check earlier I'm sorry I am an investor
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in cursor so expect me to be a bit
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harsher on things and count for some
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bias I did not think I would like cursor
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and it has become my editor of choice I
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quite like it but I'm not going to sit
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here and defend its weird UI quirks that
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they are quite a lot of especially on
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the resolution I run this seems nice
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though you can see fill style background
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color detected color or background color
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I know it's giving me the option still
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couple type
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errors let's just YOLO it and see if it
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works upload same image detected color
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okay good sign so far let's give it
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something more challenging and if this
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code works properly what this should now
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do is make oh yeah cool it one-shotted
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it all the other AI tools failed at this
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task so it seems like it's a gentic flow
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of confirming what it wants to do before
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doing it is actually behaving well
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that's this is one of my like harder
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stress tests for these and it figured it
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out first try it did complex image
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parsing where it rendered the image in
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canvas
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it then collected all the edge pixels by
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going around the canvas width and height
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and adding all of those values to the
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array and then it uses them yeah Edge
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pixels. reduce and it keeps track of
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each color and how common it is most
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common color is the biggest it's
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actually decent code minus the type
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errors yes put of exclamation points or
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question marks and it would be right
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though I'm impressed I expected a lot
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worse I like legitimately didn't think
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this would go that well what are some
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more fun tests we can give it let's have
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it cloning UI let's make a new route for
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fun let's have it clone the T3 chat UI
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I'm going to not tell it the file them
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in and see if it figures that out I am
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creating a new
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page that is an AI chat bot not worry
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about backend use mock data I have
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attached an example of how it should
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look let's see if it knows where to put
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it and if it should use or if it knows
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to use tailwind and if ites advantage of
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the other things that this project has
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figured out that I should go in demo
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even though it didn't have that context
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manually tagged that is a very good sign
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I don't like that you can't see what is
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happening here and there's no way to see
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until it is done making UI that does
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that specifically doing syntax
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highlighting as tokens are flooding in
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is rough I'm in the middle of writing my
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own syntax highlighter for T3 chat
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because of how hard it is to do that so
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I sympathize with I'm choosing not to it
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failed very interesting I wonder if this
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was it
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not generating something to its own
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satisfaction or if the stream just
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failed I haven't paid anything and it's
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letting me use Sonet which is expensive
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like this one request costs 30 cents
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minimum like these are not cheap to run
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I've learned that the hard way very
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quickly with T3 chat so it's possible
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they're rate limiting the hell out of it
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I don't think they are but I am sorry
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for whoever has to pay the bill once
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this video goes live and everyone
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realizes oh you can get Claud Sonet for
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free if you use this one specific AI
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tool it's actually fascinating that
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they're giving this out for free right
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now because son is not cheap if they
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were doing it with deep seek I'd be I
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would be less surprised but the fact
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they're doing it like this is genuinely
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a little horrifying so yeah if you
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really want free Sonet here you go let's
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accept this see how it works new to use
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Tailwind it even made some svgs I'm very
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curious to see how those come out I have
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no idea how this is going to go this
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might be surprisingly good or really
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uncanny valley slash demo moment of TR
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what the it actually did pretty
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good huh not bad stop saying it's better
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than T3 chat you
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nerds we're
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cooked God damn it guys
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AI is replacing my job if if the UI was
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the hard part of T3 chat my job would
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have been replaced long ago there are so
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many annoying things like it's so funny
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to me when people say that T3 chat is
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just a chat GPT rapper because the
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things I'm spending my time on are so
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absurd but yeah that was impressive I'm
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genuinely surprised it could do that one
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shot that well a lot to think about none
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of that will work cuz I told it to mock
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everything but like I think the svgs
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being hallucinated but accurate is kind
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of insane I'm sure that they are
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grabbing it from something in the llms
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history that it knows is an SVG that
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fits for a search icon but it's kind of
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crazyy that it generated svgs that fit
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this well kind of crazy if you've ever
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had svgs generated from other tools even
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like VZ or uh stack Blitz bolt. new svgs
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are a big and like the link icon is
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right that's good I'm impressed I don't
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even know what to throw at it it was not
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the fastest thing for generating this
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but it did a not just a good job a
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phenomenal one this is actually in my
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opinion the first real competitor I've
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experienced for cursor where I could see
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myself actually using it I'm not going
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to move because I have a bunch of
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workflows bicked into cursor and I'm
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happy with it but it's kind of crazy
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that of all people bite dance and Tech
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to just dropped a random free
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IDE that is that good if you're
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hesitation using tools like this is that
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they're too expensive go enjoy this
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while it's free you might be surprised
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at how nice these workflows are I don't
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know if I'd be confident enough to put
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this on a production code base that I
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don't want B dance to have access to the
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source code for so like I won't open
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this on T3 chat cuz there are too many
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secrets in there that are not available
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for others to have for free but this is
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solid this isn't just okay this is the
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first vs code Fork that I've seen in a
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minute that feels genuinely different
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and actually really smooth I didn't have
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a single UI Quirk not a single thing
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where the UI did something stupid that I
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wouldn't expect it to it generated
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quality responses and it seems solid I'm
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curious if y'all have any push back on
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it like what am I missing here this
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seems just good they have command K they
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do as like the vs code thing where it
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sets up your hot keys to trigger another
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one yeah short keys aren't broken on
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wind surf yeah I I had so many problems
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with wind surf i i i unlisted the video
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people are pissed I don't care wind surf
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was a really really bad experience for
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me it just did not work at all how I
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would expect an IDE to this just kind of
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behaved I haven't tried per yet I've
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been meaning to but overall this
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actually seems solid I will be keeping
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an eye on Trey for sure I'm curious how
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yall feel though are you going to give
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this a shot and if you are is it just
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cuz it's free or because you're actually
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excited about what they're building I
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like seeing more people trying to
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improve the experience we have using AI
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with our Dev tools because once it
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clicks how useful these things are it's
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really hard to go back I love cursor but
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Trey seems like a really good option for
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those who are interested curious what
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you guys end up doing and how you feel
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about yet another AI based IDE until
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next
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time peace nerds
