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so I don't know if you guys have ever
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heard of the dun and Krueger effect but
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basically it's this graph or this
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phenomenon where people think they know
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so much they're they're the the peak of
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stupidity they know so much but they
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actually know nothing so then they get
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humbled or some sort of realization
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occurs and they go into the valley of
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Despair they know nothing now and they
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know they know nothing and then they
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slowly start to get enlightened as
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they're humbled and they learn for the
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first time so that's something that I've
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been going through for the past 2 years
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and it's like perfectly depicted
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actually like I had a major dun and
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Krueger moment for the last two years
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from training for Everest climbing
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Everest and then post
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Everest now the best real world example
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I can give of this before I dive into my
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personal experience I'll make a little
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bit easier to understand and you'll see
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where I'm going let's say you're in a
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small High School of like 200 kids
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you're the best at math not me though I
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dropped I dropped out of math senior
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year of high school didn't even take it
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but uh let's just say you're the best at
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math in your school you're like The
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Prodigy like everyone knows you as the
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mathematician kid and you get into
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Harvard you're like whoa this is huge I
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know everything I'm going to Harvard you
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finally get to Harvard
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and you're soon humbled because you're
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surrounded by so many kids that are just
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as or even smarter than you or know
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certain subjects more than you that it
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makes you feel like you knew nothing
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because compared to the environment you
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were in before which made it seem like
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you knew a lot you knew more than most
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people now you're in this new
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environments where you're learning all
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these things that are challenging unlike
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before all these people around you know
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so much more than you unlike before
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these professors are teaching things
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that are hard for you to learn it's
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challenging it's frustrating you're
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humbled and you're in this Valley of
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Despair and now you're looking at the
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long road that you're actually going to
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have to go down to catch up and and get
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to a point that I guess is exceptional
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or to to what you thought that you were
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at and it's going to be a long journey
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it's going to take so much effort and
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it's just
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frustrating and that's kind of yeah like
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I said that's perfectly depicted for the
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last two years for
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me so let's start off when I started
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training for Everest now I knew nothing
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and I kind of knew that because well I
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just jumped into it but I reached out to
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a guy named Alan Arnette and he's
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basically a mentor for for people who
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want to climb big Peaks I went to him
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straight I was like I'm going for the
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big one bro I'm going for Everest like
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tell me what I need to do and of course
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he's all the way in like Colorado and
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I'm in Massachusetts you'll see why this
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is a problem so he puts me on like a
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routine and what I need to do and he's
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great like he told me like really like
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got me into it and like introduce me to
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the realm of
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mountaineering so I start I start doing
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what I need to do right I'm in
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Massachusetts I really don't have a lot
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to work with and I'm literally that kid
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in the math class with 200 kids who
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thought they knew everything um I have
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like an 850t Mountain near my house I'm
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going up and down all day and really all
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I'm doing is working legs and if you
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know anything about alpinism
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mountaineering and climbing it's a
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little bit more than just being able to
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go up and down a hike but that's
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practically what I was training so I had
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a few preparation climbs let's say
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leading up to this like chimazo Denali
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which is great for Everest prep in Aken
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kaga which is also good you see a good
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altitude
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um and I and I did pretty well on all of
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these and you would say oh you did well
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on those right so you're going to have a
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lot of experience well the issue is that
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it's the same thing as the mountain that
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I was on I'm just walking up these
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mountains because they're guided I was
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doing guided trips
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and you really don't need to know a lot
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of technicals it's pretty not easy it's
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very hard and it sucks like a lot of
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them just suck to do it's uh you know
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not the most fun activity it's type two
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fun but so much of the work like the
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technical work making the food setting
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up the tents rope work is all done by
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the guides like you don't even have to
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dive or dip your toes into the realm of
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real mountaineering and alpinism to do
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these some of these things when they're
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guided and of course you can see where
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I'm going with this it's the same thing
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for Everest there it's guided there's
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fixed lines you have people making the
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food boiling the water setting up the
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camps did I mention there was fixed
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lines
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probably um and you kind of do just have
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to walk up it like it's extremely hard
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and and like I'm not trying to take away
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from like
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the the achievement of Everest or
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whatever and like I still feel achieved
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after doing it cuz it is extremely hard
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but to say that takes a significant
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level of experience and a lot of people
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do think it
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does nowadays just isn't
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true and I wasn't really thinking about
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that when I did it I was like this is
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awesome it's Everest it's like a Giant
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Mountain biggest in the world um I
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wasn't really thinking about like how
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much more I needed to learn how much of
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climbing I didn't know after Everest a
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few months later
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I moved to Washington and it's like a
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climbing state right so now I'm now I'm
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that math kid and I'm going to Harvard
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um because I want to pursue alpinism and
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climbing more not there's climbing goes
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so much deeper than just Mount Everest
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one time someone was like oh what's next
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then like Everest is the tallest like
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dude the way I climbed Everest is like
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bottom of the barrel there's so much
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more and I kind of realized that as I
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get out here I started start doing a lot
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of climbs with Justin like real Alpine
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climbs if you guys know Justin he brings
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me up a lot of Peaks around here he's
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like he's like my actual like in-person
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Mentor who's taught me so much I love
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the dude great guy um I started doing a
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lot more climbs with him and like I
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start seeing I go I go to different
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climbing gyms and I'm I start talking to
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other people and I realize like dude
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these guys are smart like they're very
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good
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climbers and compared to what I knew on
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Everson for Everest I was like I have so
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much more to
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learn um there's like a whole different
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world out here that I like couldn't even
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really fathom um how some of this stuff
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is done like rope work actual like
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strength of you know let's let's say
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like bouldering climbing is way
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different than Alpine climbing in 8,000
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meter ice climbing mix climbing all this
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stuff it's like a whole other realm I
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unlocked moving out here and all I had
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known prior to this was like walk up and
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down slope and there's this one clip and
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I hate I like hate this video so much
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but I left it up cuz whatever it's
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before I got like any views I had like
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10 views on my climbing Channel I made a
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video talking about my gear list and I
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completely boted it because basically
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when you're clients you get sent a a
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gear list about what you need on the
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climb and I was ordering these things
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that I was saying but I knew like
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virtually nothing about what they did
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and I and I showed that in the video I
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was like oh what's this it was like a
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Peto dual connect adjust which is
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basically like a harness rig system like
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one one strand is going to be so you can
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anchor into like a safety Point like
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let's say an ice grew or something and
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then the other one's for your Ascender
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or repel device so it's like kind of two
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points that you can Traverse the
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mountain withd complicated but whatever
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not the best way I explained it there
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either but um I didn't even know what
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that was and like these are basic
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mountaineering Concepts like the use of
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repelling in like a harness rig system
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like these are basic mountaineering
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Concepts and I was going to Everest and
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I didn't even know these because I never
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surrounded myself around like people who
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challenge this technical ability like
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this real concept of alpinism I had
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never been around people who had
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challenged that I had just been guided
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taken up mountains on my little Hill in
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Massachusetts overall just really have
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realized that there's so much more to
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learn and it's a little bit discouraging
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over overall since I've been out here so
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I've just been on the slope of
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Enlightenment trying to learn as much as
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I can and really just taking a step back
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and being like okay Everest was Everest
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that doesn't mean anything um what means
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a lot is the basics and and getting
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these fundamental concepts down and
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working up from there and really like
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testing and challenging my ability in
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this different realm of climbing and
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alpinism so that's kind of my dun and
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Krueger
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story and like I said
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I kind of regret going to Everest with
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the experience that I had
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um I I do I'm extremely grateful I had
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the opportunity and it was like such an
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amazing experience and I really learned
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a lot while I was there but I feel like
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I learned too much while I was there I
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should have known these things so I
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regret going to Everest with the lack of
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experience that I had in the technical
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realm of mountaineering I mean
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gratefully I didn't need to know these
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things but like just that idea that it
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was like and maybe you're at like
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Harvard and it's like this idea that
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you're at Harvard you don't even know
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these things you're on Everest you don't
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even know these things it's
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like you maybe or you didn't know these
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things like you did not like at the time
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you might have that done in Krueger like
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you don't even think about the fact that
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you don't know these things but
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afterwards you get it turns into like an
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impostor syndrome I was like what was I
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doing
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there
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so yeah but at the end of the day I do
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think it's good to go through through
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moments like these like these big
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humbling realizations and these slopes
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of
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Enlightenment because it really does you
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can either approach it two different
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ways like you can look at it as a really
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discouraging concept and it it drives
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you away from trying to improve and do
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better or you can really look at it and
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say whoo I need to surround myself in
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this environment more like this is a
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great place to grow the past is the past
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I might have known nothing I might
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regret doing some things with the
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experience I had or maybe I you know
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could have been humbled earlier but um
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you really got to just go forward in
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that environment and like take the
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opportunity and really surround yourself
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with these different types of people
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that know more than you so you can learn
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and get better and and reach that slope
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of Enlightenment because you know at the
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peak of stupidity you knew nothing but
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the slope of Enlightenment is where
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you're going to lock in or alternatively
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you can just start from the bottom and
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realize that you know nothing right off
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the bats and work up from there so yeah
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that's kind of my quick rant about why I
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sort of regret climbing Everest because
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yeah the whole experience thing the
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whole dun and Krueger effect I was the
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peak of stupidity and now I feel like an
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impostor a little suspicious because
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um 20 years ago I wouldn't have made it
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up to the next camp and I feel like
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that's just like dude come on now
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anyways that's my little Yap for today
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