Former NBA Player GETS DESTROYED in GOAT Debate

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Résumé

TLDREn aquest vídeo, l'autor critica amb vehemència els arguments de Michael Beasley que proclamen LeBron James com el millor jugador de la història. Beasley afirmar que LeBron podria destacar en qualsevol posició del bàsquet, però l'autor refuta aquestes afirmacions destacant les aportacions úniques de llegendes com Magic Johnson, Michael Jordan i Tim Duncan en les seves respectives posicions. A més, l'autor discuteix com les dades de la carrera de LeBron, tot i ser impressionants, sovint són presentades fora de context quan es comparen amb altres llegendes. També critica la lògica de Beasley, al·legant que no és sostenible atorgar tan alt reconeixement a LeBron només basant-se en les dades numèriques sense considerar l'impacte total dins del joc.

A retenir

  • 🎙️ Crítica sobre l'època dels podcasts en l'esport i la qualitat dels arguments presentats.
  • 🏀 Comparació entre LeBron James i altres llegendes de l'NBA.
  • 📊 Discussió sobre l'ús de les estadístiques en els arguments sobre els millors jugadors.
  • 🤔 Reflexió sobre el biaix de la proximitat i la nostàlgia en l'avaluació dels jugadors.
  • 🎯 Defensa dels grans jugadors establerts en les seves posicions històriques.
  • 🔄 Diàleg sobre els canvis en el joc del bàsquet al llarg dels anys i la seva influència en la comparació de jugadors.
  • 🏆 Comentari sobre els èxits individuals i col·lectius necessaris per considerar algú el millor de tots els temps.
  • 📉 Anàlisi de la temporada drookie de LeBron i l'evolució del seu joc.
  • 🤨 Crítica dels arguments de Beasley basats únicament en les estadístiques.
  • 📝 Examen del currículum de LeBron en contrast amb el de Kareem i altres llegendes.

Chronologie

  • 00:00:00 - 00:05:00

    L'autor expressa la seva opinió negativa sobre la tendència dels podcasts d'esportistes, destacant-los com plens de «hot takes» i coses absurdes. Utilitza com a exemple a Michael Beasley en un podcast on aquest defensa que les estadístiques de LeBron James el situen com el millor en totes les posicions del bàsquet. L'autor discrepa enèrgicament, oferint arguments detallats sobre per què Magic Johnson supera LeBron com a base, en un any destacat per la seva capacitat ofensiva i lideratge.

  • 00:05:00 - 00:10:29

    L'autor continua analitzant les posicions i destaca que, en el rol d'ala-pivot, Tim Duncan en 2003 és clarament superior a LeBron James. Basant-se en estadístiques defensives extraordinàries i el lideratge de Duncan cap a un campionat, l'autor subratlla que l'impacte de Duncan, especialment en termes defensius, és incomparable. També assenyala que les millors temporades de centres històrics com Kareem Abdul-Jabbar i Hakeem Olajuwon depassen àmpliament l'impacte de LeBron quan ocasionalment juga en aquesta posició. En última instància, critica els fans que sostenen que LeBron és millor que Jordan, argumentant que estan influenciats per la tendència del moment i el biaix de recència, igual que s'ignora l'herència de Kareem.

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Questions fréquemment posées

  • Què pensa l'autor sobre els arguments de Michael Beasley?

    L'autor considera que els arguments de Michael Beasley sobre LeBron James com el millor jugador de tots els temps són febles i manquen de substància.

  • Com es compara LeBron James amb altres grans de l'NBA segons el vídeo?

    LeBron James es compara desfavorablement amb altres grans com Magic Johnson, Michael Jordan, Tim Duncan, Kareem Abdul-Jabbar i altres en les seves posicions respectives.

  • Quins jugadors es destaquen com a millors en les seves posicions?

    Magic Johnson com a millor base, Michael Jordan com a millor escorta, Tim Duncan com a millor ala-pívot i grans centres com Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, Shaquille O'Neal i Hakeem Olajuwon.

  • Què es diu sobre la temporada drookie de LeBron James?

    Es remarca que fins i tot el pitjor any de Michael Jordan com a escorta, encara és considerat millor que LeBron en la seva temporada de novell.

  • Com afecta la nostàlgia i la proximitat la percepció dels jugadors segons l'autor?

    L'autor menciona que hi ha biaix de nostàlgia i de proximitat, però argumenta que el currículum de Jordan és superior al de LeBron.

  • Quin és el crit de guerra de Michael Beasley sobre LeBron?

    Michael Beasley afirma que LeBron James és el millor jugador de tots els temps basant-se en les seves estadístiques generals.

  • Quina és la reacció de l'autor davant les estadístiques presentades per Beasley?

    L'autor critica l'ús de les estadístiques generals sense context històric i compara la situació amb la de Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, qui era màxim anotador durant anys sense ser considerat el millor.

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    as you guys know when it comes the
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    player podcast era I'm not the biggest
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    fan of it and looking at these podcasts
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    the majority of them just utter nonsense
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    hot takes and straight up garbage and
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    looking at someone like Michael Beasley
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    on the OG podcast hearing this dude talk
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    I would say one of the bottom three
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    weakest goat Arguments for LeBron James
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    I've ever heard who's who's who's your
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    goat who's my goat all the time
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    LeBron and and I can give you very
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    compelling arguments right if we had
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    right
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    here all the players from history stats
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    no names yep right and you know we
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    stacked the best point guard shooting
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    guard uh small forward Etc whatever even
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    bench even coach yeah you can put that
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    man stats up and he can be the best one
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    two three four
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    five so Michael Beasley right here just
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    completely off base making really no
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    sense as St LeBron James his overall
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    stats are the best one through five I
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    mean what this dude is saying is LeBron
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    James at point guard is better than
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    magic at shooting guard better than Kobe
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    and Jordan at Power Forward better than
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    Tim Duncan and at Center better than
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    guys like Kareem Wilt Hakeem Shaq Etc
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    now the positive with Beasley having
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    this awful take now we're going to
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    educate the fans of the actual best
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    players at every position now first off
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    looking at the point guard obviously
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    Magic Johnson at his peak in
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    1987 that year magic 24 points per game
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    career high 12.2 assist NBA High 6.3
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    boards 1 7 assist on 52% shooting for a
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    Lakers team that won 65 games that year
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    magic as an offensive player the best in
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    the world and debatably the best all
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    time and when it comes to a point guard
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    controlling the offense even some
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    controlling the defense these guys are
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    the leaders and the spear on both ends
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    of the floor and looking at the Lakers
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    that year of course Kareem was getting
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    up there in age so magic scoring wise
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    passing wise had more of an impact
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    than ever offensive rating first by
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    whopping Four Points fial percentage
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    first points per game first assist first
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    true shooting percentage first and
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    margin of Victory 11.4 points which
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    ranks fourth all time for a championship
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    run if you compare the 87 Lakers led by
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    Magic at point guard to the 220 Lakers
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    with LeBron at point I mean it's a no
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    contest not even close
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    now looking at the shooting guard I mean
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    Michael Beasley do you really want to go
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    there when it comes LeBron at shooting
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    guard the only time he played this was
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    an ' 04 as a rookie and looking through
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    history guys like Jerry West Dwayne Wade
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    Kobe Jordan I mean you can go on and on
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    and on with players individuals who had
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    better years at his shooting guard than
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    LeBron as a rookie and to be fair to
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    Beasley we'll take one of Michael
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    Jordan's worst years if not the worst
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    year of his career in ' 02 with the
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    Wizards Jordan this year 23 point six
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    boards five assists 1.4 Steals on 42%
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    shooting LeBron James 04 at shooting
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    guard 21 points six assist five boards
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    nearly two Steals on 42% shooting and
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    some might say LeBron James at the
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    shooting guard being a fresh rookie
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    playing 40 minutes per game was better
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    than Jordan and more valuable well not
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    entirely true Washington with Jordan on
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    the court offensively versus off the
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    court is a plus
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    6.6 on the defensive end plus
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    3.5 looking at LeBron James on offense
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    plus 6.1 and defensively plus 4.0 I mean
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    it's quite comical and hilarious even
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    the worst version of Jordan at shooting
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    guard still better than LeBron James at
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    the exact same position now looking past
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    shooting guard we have power forward and
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    when LeBron played power forward it was
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    kind of late 2013 2014 Miami and the
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    early 2020s with the
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    Lakers now here's the thing those eras
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    the 2010s early 2020s power forwards
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    weren't the same as they were in the
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    early 2000s or late 90s as a Duncan
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    played power forward I mean offensively
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    you on the Block and defensively holding
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    it down in the paint for your entire
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    team and you weren't playing small ball
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    four stretch Fives Guys who were 6'8 6'9
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    maybe
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    6'1 back in Duncan's day Garnett Dirk
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    Nowitzki Chris Weber Gasol aari a
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    Rasheed Wallace Zach Randolph and later
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    on someone like Chris Bosch if you want
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    to go bar forar bar the best power
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    forwards the 2000s first to 2010s and
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    2020s it's not even close and looking at
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    Pak Duncan the 03 playoffs in the dead
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    ball era carried his Spurs team to a
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    championship as a power four 24.7 points
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    15 boards five assists three blocks on
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    above 50% shooting for Duncan Spurs team
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    11 points rebounds assist and blocks and
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    looking at that roster Tony Parker in
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    his second year was 20 years old Stephen
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    Jackson kind of Hit or Miss was 24 David
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    Robinson 38 and then jobi who was a
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    rookie LeBron James power forward or not
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    has never carried a team of a
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    championship like Duncan in 2003 and in
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    terms of defensive impact I mean not
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    even close Duncan in the 03 playoffs
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    debatably the best defensive run of all
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    time as looking at his ranks in NBA
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    history third in defensive wind shares
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    third defensive plus minus second in
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    blocks and eight in defense rating and
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    compared to his peers in ' 03 I mean
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    just was them all out of the building
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    defensive win shares first defensive
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    plus minus first blocks first and
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    defensive rating second look Michael
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    Beasley I don't care if you look at the
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    ey test the stats LeBron at Power
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    Forward never was better than 03 Duncan
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    or Duncan in general now last but not
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    least we have the centers and for LeBron
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    himself
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    the only time he really played center
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    was in
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    2022 and of course LeBron's team that
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    year going into the year a stack super
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    team had Westbrook Carmelo Anthony Davis
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    and a ton of help but despite that only
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    won 33 games and look yes LeBron James
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    individually averaged 30 points per game
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    but looking through history one of the
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    more empty stat seasons of all time on
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    par with someone like a Bradley Beal and
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    when it comes to the greatest centers of
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    all time averaging 30 points per game
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    for the best of them that was really no
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    problem and look at Kareem 1980 in route
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    to a championship 32 points 12 boards
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    nearly four blocks three assist on
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    almost 60% shooting shaken 01 also 30
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    points per game 15 boards three assists
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    two blocks on
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    55.5% shooting and then aim Elijah won
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    take your pick
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    94 or 95 as in both runs 30 points per
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    game all around dominance and carrying
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    his team on both ends of the floor not
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    to beat a dead horse when it comes the
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    all-time great centers LeBron James is
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    not one of them like I feel like people
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    that's stand Michael Jordan is the goat
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    like no disrespect but y just holding on
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    to Old feelings you know what I'm saying
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    like you have to acknowledge the fact
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    that what I just said is M you know what
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    I'm saying like he got 40,000 right now
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    counting yeah and dog you seen his
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    resume bro do so that right there is the
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    last Beasley clip and like earlier this
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    guy his arguments really no substance
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    and saying Jordan fans 9s fans are just
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    holding on to feelings is that the best
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    you've got if LeBron had six seven
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    championships had no finals meltdown
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    I'd be the first guy in the front row
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    saying this guy is the greatest player
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    of all time but unfortunately for him he
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    just does not have that now the funny
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    thing about this argument you can flip
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    it on its head by saying fans today
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    players today are prisoners of the
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    moment with LeBron James I mean it goes
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    both ways recency bias and Nostalgia
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    does it exist of course it does but
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    we're looking at Jordan's career
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    Jordan's resume versus LeBron's career
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    and his resume in my VI not really close
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    who's better all time and one last thing
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    I do want to comment on B at the end of
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    that clip of LeBron James he's got
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    40,000 points look at his resume and
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    look yes LeBron James has 40K props to
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    Beasley finally cting some stat some
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    number that actually backs him up but
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    here's the thing for close to 30 years
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    Kareem was the N alltime leading score
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    with 38k points six titles and six MVPs
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    and Michael beas to my knowledge not
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    once said Kareem the greatest player in
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    NBA history it's almost like Beasley
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    people of his ilk are moving the gopost
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    in real time as a 30 plus years Kareem
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    his longevity resume it was there set in
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    stone and not one MC Kareem was better
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    than LeBron James or better than Jordan
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    so that right there is the end of the
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    video as always thank you guys for
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    watching hope you enjoyed it I'll see
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    you next
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    time
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