Myth Busters Truths about Special Learning Disabilities and Wisconsin's SLD Rule
Résumé
TLDRThis webinar hosted by Wisconsin Facets, led by Deb Hess from the Department of Public Instruction, focused on dispelling myths surrounding specific learning disabilities (SLD) within Wisconsin’s educational framework. Deb Hess, sharing her extensive background in education and learning disabilities, elaborated on key aspects of SLD, such as its definition under federal law, including dyslexia, and the mechanisms required for determining eligibility for special education. Particular emphasis was placed on misunderstanding related to the SLD programs and response to intervention (RTI) systems, pointing out that while RTI systems can ease SLD rule applications, they are not mandated in Wisconsin. Hess clarified the procedural intricacies involved in implementing interventions, stressing the need for evidence-based methods tailored to a student's personal needs. The session highlighted various misconceptions about disabilities, differentiated between intellectual and learning disabilities, and touched upon the broader impacts of SLD on student life. Resources and further contacts, particularly within the Department, were provided for continued guidance.
A retenir
- 👩🏫 Deb Hess led the webinar, focusing on specific learning disabilities (SLD).
- 🧠 Learning disabilities differ from intellectual disabilities.
- 🔍 Dyslexia is acknowledged as an SLD under federal law.
- 🛠️ RTI systems aid SLD rule implementation but are not required in Wisconsin.
- 📚 Evidence-based interventions are crucial for SLD criteria.
- 📅 A timeline extension may be needed if interventions aren't completed before referral.
- 🏫 Various educational resources are available through DPI for support.
- 📊 School psychologists' evaluations aid in intervention and need identification.
- 🗣️ Open communication with schools is crucial if dyslexia is diagnosed.
- 🎓 SLD affects students beyond academic contexts, impacting their whole life.
Chronologie
- 00:00:00 - 00:05:00
Bonnie Vander Mulan, training coordinator for Wisconsin Facets, introduces Deb Hess from the Department of Public Instruction, discussing myths about specific learning disabilities (SLD) and Wisconsin's SLD program. Deb shares her extensive background in special education and her journey with SLD at the department.
- 00:05:00 - 00:10:00
Deb highlights the misconceptions about learning disabilities (LD) and compares them to intellectual disabilities. She emphasizes the hidden nature of LDs and their impact beyond school. Agenda 2017 focuses on college and career readiness for all students, emphasizing academic, social, and emotional competencies.
- 00:10:00 - 00:15:00
Deb outlines the topics for the webinar, addressing common questions and myths she encounters about SLDs. She encourages participants to ask questions throughout. Bonnie notes some technical difficulties with handouts, which they aim to resolve.
- 00:15:00 - 00:20:00
Deb discusses dyslexia, a common point of confusion, and how it's included under the definition of SLD in federal and state law. She explains the misconception that a dyslexia diagnosis guarantees special education services. The use of 'dyslexia' in IEP documentation is discussed, with emphasis on the need for further evaluation for SLD eligibility.
- 00:20:00 - 00:25:00
Deb describes the relationship between Response to Intervention (RTI) and SLD eligibility in Wisconsin. She clarifies that the SLD rule does not require a multi-level system of support but that having one might ease rule implementation. She explains the process and criteria for determining SLD eligibility.
- 00:25:00 - 00:30:00
Deb addresses timeline extensions for SLD evaluations, which are sometimes needed to collect two scientific research-based interventions. She emphasizes that such extensions require written consent from parents. The criteria for SLD eligibility, including intervention data, are explained.
- 00:30:00 - 00:35:00
Deb discusses the role of interventions in establishing SLD eligibility, emphasizing scientific research-based interventions (SRBI). She clarifies DPI's role in intervention selection, debunking the myth that DPI provides a list. Interventions should be tailored to the student's needs and context.
- 00:35:00 - 00:40:00
Deb answers questions regarding qualifications for selecting evidence-based practices, screening for dyslexia, and the implementation of interventions. She emphasizes licensure requirements and shared responsibility among educators in selecting and implementing SRBIs.
- 00:40:00 - 00:45:00
Deb covers intervention requirements under the SLD rule, such as the need for interventions to be culturally responsive and implemented with fidelity. She explains common misconceptions about intervention duration and implementation standards.
- 00:45:00 - 00:50:00
Deb introduces resources available for understanding and supporting SLDs, including DPI's specific learning disabilities page and other educational websites. She provides guidance on navigating these resources for both Spanish and English speakers.
- 00:50:00 - 00:59:43
Deb concludes by addressing questions on collaboration with organizations like WIDA and the use of school psychologist evaluations for guiding interventions. She offers contact information for further inquiries and expresses thanks to the participants for their engagement and interest in SLD education.
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Questions fréquemment posées
Who was the presenter of the webinar?
Deb Hess, a consultant for specific learning disabilities from the Department of Public Instruction, was the presenter.
What was the main topic of the webinar?
The webinar covered "Mythbusting Truths About SLD and Wisconsin's SLD Program."
What is one common myth about learning disabilities?
One myth is that learning disabilities and intellectual disabilities are the same, which is not true.
Does Wisconsin require a Response to Intervention (RTI) system?
No, a Response to Intervention system or a multi-level system of support is not required, although it may facilitate implementing the SLD rule.
Is dyslexia covered under specific learning disabilities according to federal law?
Yes, dyslexia is included as an example of conditions that might be considered a specific learning disability.
What are some areas covered under the SLD rule for interventions?
The areas include reading skills, math calculations, written expression, listening comprehension, and oral expression.
Do interventions for SLD need a scientific research base?
Yes, interventions need to be based on scientific research or evidence-based practices.
Can a school psychologist's evaluation guide intervention selection?
Yes, an evaluation can be used to guide intervention selection and identify student learning needs.
What if a student has not had two scientific interventions by the time of special education referral?
A timeline extension may be needed to complete the two required interventions before determining eligibility.
How can one contact the presenter for further information?
Deb Hess can be contacted via email or phone for further information.
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- 00:00:05good afternoon everybody this is Bonnie
- 00:00:06Vander Mulan training coordinat for
- 00:00:08Wisconsin facets on behalf of our entire
- 00:00:11Wisconsin facets staff I'd like to thank
- 00:00:14you for joining us today our webinar
- 00:00:17today is entitled mythbusting truths
- 00:00:20about sld and Wisconsin's sld program um
- 00:00:24today our presenter is Deb hes Deb um is
- 00:00:30joining us today from the Department of
- 00:00:32Public Instruction where she is a
- 00:00:34consultant for the specific learning
- 00:00:36disabilities Deb has been actively
- 00:00:39involved in the field of learning
- 00:00:40disabilities for her entire professional
- 00:00:42career initially Deb was a teacher of
- 00:00:45students with sld then Deb was a
- 00:00:48University faculty member and helped to
- 00:00:50prepare Future Special Educators for
- 00:00:53their challenging roles these
- 00:00:55experiences provide a foundation for
- 00:00:57Deb's work at the department of public
- 00:01:00instruction it is my pleasure to
- 00:01:02introduce to you Deb Deb Hess hi but
- 00:01:06that's close Bonnie so thank you um I'm
- 00:01:10so delighted to be with everybody here
- 00:01:12and so thanks for taking time out of
- 00:01:15your busy lives to um be present at this
- 00:01:19webinar um and maybe to do some future
- 00:01:22sharing I love supporting the work of
- 00:01:25Wisconsin facets and um one of the
- 00:01:28reasons I love it so much is because it
- 00:01:30U provides me a you know broader base of
- 00:01:34contact with individuals who are out in
- 00:01:36the field so thanks very much for for
- 00:01:40joining us um my journey um B Bonnie
- 00:01:44shared some details um but part of the
- 00:01:48rationale for today um as I was thinking
- 00:01:51about the topic um when fit approached
- 00:01:54me uh to do this webinar is that in
- 00:01:58January I will be be beginning my third
- 00:02:01year um at the Wisconsin Department of
- 00:02:04Public Instruction and my current role
- 00:02:08and um it it has been three full years
- 00:02:13three years um since the um sld rule in
- 00:02:18Wisconsin was first implemented so you
- 00:02:21know everyone has worked very hard on
- 00:02:23that and thinking about moving forward
- 00:02:26in the future one of the things um that
- 00:02:29I considered are some of the ideas that
- 00:02:33are out in the field that I hear from
- 00:02:35parents and and teachers all the time
- 00:02:38that are sources of confusion or what
- 00:02:40I'm going to call for today myths um and
- 00:02:44certainly some of these ideas have been
- 00:02:46around for quite some time it was in
- 00:02:491963 you know you may know that Dr
- 00:02:53Samuel Kirk first used the term uh
- 00:02:56learning disability so that's a in the
- 00:02:58field of uh dis abilities that's a
- 00:03:01relatively kind of short lifetime but
- 00:03:04it's given some time for us to to
- 00:03:07establish a field um within special
- 00:03:11education so um one of the first things
- 00:03:16that I looked at in terms of some of the
- 00:03:18myths I looked at this um
- 00:03:20understood uh.org
- 00:03:23website which is a really fine site for
- 00:03:28um challenges in learning
- 00:03:30attention and I'll just take a second a
- 00:03:33side detour to say that all of the links
- 00:03:36that are embedded within this PowerPoint
- 00:03:39um will take you directly to the site so
- 00:03:41if you want to follow up later with
- 00:03:43additional information or if you want to
- 00:03:46look at some of the original documents
- 00:03:48that are referenced in this PowerPoint
- 00:03:50you can do so so
- 00:03:53understood um compiled some information
- 00:03:56about students who experience learning
- 00:03:59disabil ities and I just pulled out a
- 00:04:01couple ideas to get us thinking about
- 00:04:03some of the myths um or some of the
- 00:04:06challenges uh one of the Notions is up
- 00:04:09to a third of parents of students with
- 00:04:12learning disabilities don't feel PR
- 00:04:14prepared to take on the challenge well I
- 00:04:17don't think that's necessarily a myth I
- 00:04:19I'm calling that out because I think
- 00:04:21it's important for us to remember I
- 00:04:23don't think it's at all unusual that
- 00:04:26parents of any children who experience
- 00:04:29disabilities would feel that they
- 00:04:30weren't prepared most of us um don't do
- 00:04:34this kind of preparation for Parenthood
- 00:04:36but it's something that's really
- 00:04:38important for us to remember and to
- 00:04:41think about as we do consider myths
- 00:04:44because in contrast to what parents are
- 00:04:46feeling the general public and this is
- 00:04:49based on a 2010 survey that the National
- 00:04:53Council on learning disabilities
- 00:04:55completed um the the general public is
- 00:04:58aware of learning disabilities but still
- 00:05:01has some incorrect ideas so for instance
- 00:05:05one incorrect idea is that learning
- 00:05:08disabilities and intellectual
- 00:05:10disabilities are the same um same
- 00:05:13condition that certainly is not true I
- 00:05:16also think because um learning
- 00:05:18disabilities tend to be um what is
- 00:05:21sometimes called a hidden disability a
- 00:05:23disability that is not so easy to
- 00:05:26necessarily see at first glance um that
- 00:05:29contribut to people having some
- 00:05:31incorrect
- 00:05:33ideas finally this notion that kids with
- 00:05:37learning disabilities have more trouble
- 00:05:40in school and out of school um than
- 00:05:44other kids do is included because I
- 00:05:47think that this really busts the idea
- 00:05:49that um students with learning
- 00:05:52disabilities um might not have
- 00:05:55challenges outside of school um we have
- 00:05:58learned since the 1960s that really
- 00:06:02learning uh disabilities can have a
- 00:06:05pervasive impact on students lives and
- 00:06:08indeed uh can affect an individual
- 00:06:11throughout their lifespan so it's really
- 00:06:14important to think that it's not just um
- 00:06:17something that happens at school it can
- 00:06:20affect a student's entire life and that
- 00:06:23leads me to considering agenda
- 00:06:272017 you may have seen things about
- 00:06:30agenda
- 00:06:312017 because um this really is uh Dr 's
- 00:06:36plan for um considering the future of
- 00:06:40Education in Wisconsin and one of these
- 00:06:43is that all Wisconsin graduates so that
- 00:06:46includes students who experience
- 00:06:49disabilities all Wisconsin graduates are
- 00:06:52College and Career ready and what I love
- 00:06:56about this is um something that
- 00:06:58considers what we were just talking
- 00:07:01about um that students graduate from
- 00:07:04high school not only academically
- 00:07:06prepared but socially and emotionally
- 00:07:09competent so this has to do with in
- 00:07:12school um learning uh book learning if
- 00:07:16you will with academic preparation but
- 00:07:18also
- 00:07:19relationships and outside of school
- 00:07:22experiences in terms of social emotional
- 00:07:25competencies so that's something that we
- 00:07:26think a lot about in special education
- 00:07:29but it's certainly true in all of
- 00:07:33Education um and this College and Career
- 00:07:37Readiness considers knowledge again the
- 00:07:40academic content skills so critical
- 00:07:44thinking collaborating with others
- 00:07:47communicating are included also habits
- 00:07:51such as
- 00:07:52perseverance adaptability leadership
- 00:07:55that and those habits and some of the
- 00:07:58skills really for focus on more
- 00:08:00functional sorts of things um ideas that
- 00:08:04go beyond the school day this is
- 00:08:07something uh the idea of College and
- 00:08:09Career Readiness is something that
- 00:08:12everybody at DPI is really focusing
- 00:08:14their efforts on and attention on and
- 00:08:19this is certainly true of the Special
- 00:08:21Education team we have um developed some
- 00:08:25enhanced IP forms that different dists
- 00:08:29will be rolling out during the next year
- 00:08:32so um you know as you go to um the next
- 00:08:36IEP meeting you may be um learning about
- 00:08:40these new forms which we think really
- 00:08:43focus the IP team's efforts on College
- 00:08:47and Career
- 00:08:49Readiness so with that as background
- 00:08:53here are some of the topics um that I'd
- 00:08:56like us to focus on today um um and
- 00:09:02these are all topics that I selected
- 00:09:04based on information and questions that
- 00:09:06I hear from families and schools either
- 00:09:09through phone calls here to the
- 00:09:12department or times that I'm out in the
- 00:09:15field I and you'll note that I've also
- 00:09:18included some time for question and
- 00:09:20answers at the end I really would like
- 00:09:22to have an opportunity for you to bring
- 00:09:26up topics of interest and concern to you
- 00:09:29what we have this time together today so
- 00:09:32as Bonnie indicated um if you would type
- 00:09:36in your questions as we're going along
- 00:09:38I'll pause uh at the end of each of
- 00:09:41these topics um but also I will reserve
- 00:09:44some time at the end for your questions
- 00:09:46so do we have any questions so far
- 00:09:49Bonnie no none so far oh just one just
- 00:09:52came up hang on one second um we have
- 00:09:54been unable oh I guess they're saying
- 00:09:57that they've had had some trouble
- 00:09:58printing the handout so I will make sure
- 00:10:01um that they will get copies of that and
- 00:10:04we'll send it in a different format
- 00:10:06excellent
- 00:10:08excellent all right so um I'd like to
- 00:10:11talk first a little bit about dyslexia
- 00:10:13because this is um an area of some
- 00:10:17confusion and understandably so so this
- 00:10:21slide shows the definition of specific
- 00:10:24learning disability um that's included
- 00:10:27in the federal um um law the individuals
- 00:10:31with disabilities Education Act um as
- 00:10:34well as our state um
- 00:10:38pi1 so this is state and federal and it
- 00:10:41really is a definition that hasn't
- 00:10:44changed since um Ida was first
- 00:10:47implemented in in
- 00:10:501975 and the italics that are included
- 00:10:55here are italics that I added so
- 00:11:00I added them obviously to highlight
- 00:11:03highlight them bring them to your
- 00:11:05attention this definition tells what
- 00:11:09specific learning disability is a
- 00:11:11disorder in one or more of the basic
- 00:11:13psychological processes and then it
- 00:11:16includes this statement in
- 00:11:19italics that says including conditions
- 00:11:23such
- 00:11:24as perceptual disabilities brain injury
- 00:11:28minimal
- 00:11:29brain dysfunction dyslexia and
- 00:11:32developmental
- 00:11:35Aphasia so dyslexia is included as an
- 00:11:40example of a condition that could be
- 00:11:43considered a specific learning
- 00:11:45disability in this definition and I
- 00:11:47think that that um causes a lot of
- 00:11:51individuals to understand that if a
- 00:11:54child is identified as having dyslexia
- 00:11:57then they automatically qualify for for
- 00:11:59special education services in the public
- 00:12:03schools um as a result of that and this
- 00:12:07really has been a national conversation
- 00:12:12and I I think it's a national
- 00:12:13conversation that isn't really slowing
- 00:12:17down so it's worth talking about a
- 00:12:20little bit um there was in fact
- 00:12:24attention given to this topic by a
- 00:12:27letter from the office of special
- 00:12:29education programs just about a year ago
- 00:12:32in October
- 00:12:342015 and that a
- 00:12:37guidance um which is discussed in this
- 00:12:40document dyslexia and specific learning
- 00:12:43disabilities on the Wisconsin DPI
- 00:12:45website reminded us of a couple of
- 00:12:48things um one is that the use of the
- 00:12:52term dyslexia is not prohibited now that
- 00:12:56sounds like kind of a odd say way to say
- 00:12:58it but but I think what was happening
- 00:13:00was um parents and other people outside
- 00:13:03the schools were going to schools um and
- 00:13:07and having questions about dyslexia and
- 00:13:10schools were saying well we don't teach
- 00:13:12students who have dyslexia or we don't
- 00:13:14evaluate students who have
- 00:13:17dyslexia um kind of like we don't talk
- 00:13:20about dyslexia and what this guidance
- 00:13:23specifically says is that the IEP teams
- 00:13:28may include information from outside
- 00:13:31evaluations um in their reports and as
- 00:13:35the IP team is doing its work they can
- 00:13:37certainly include the term dyslexia or
- 00:13:40dis graphia disc calcula directly in the
- 00:13:44documents so um for those of us in the
- 00:13:48school schools you know it's a matter of
- 00:13:51talking with parents further if they um
- 00:13:55bring up the term dyslexia and say you
- 00:13:58know my child was identified as having
- 00:14:00dyslexia from an outside
- 00:14:03evaluation and finding out what the next
- 00:14:05steps might be and that next step might
- 00:14:08be a referral for a special education
- 00:14:11evaluation for parents it certainly is a
- 00:14:14reminder that you do want to talk with
- 00:14:17school personnel and including IEP team
- 00:14:21if your child is identified as having
- 00:14:24dyslexia now the part where it's um I
- 00:14:28think a little bit confusing sometimes
- 00:14:30is that dyslexia is a term that is used
- 00:14:36in outside evaluations and by that I
- 00:14:39mean schools that are conducted outside
- 00:14:41a public school
- 00:14:43setting and so the IP team in the public
- 00:14:47school must still decide if the student
- 00:14:50meets the criteria for specific um
- 00:14:54learning disabilities eligibility in
- 00:14:57Wisconsin and that means means the
- 00:14:59student would need to meet the the three
- 00:15:03criteria of um inadequate classroom
- 00:15:06achievement insufficient progress in
- 00:15:09response to scientific research based um
- 00:15:14interventions and for there to be no
- 00:15:16exclusionary factors so that's a long
- 00:15:21way of saying that simply beuse a
- 00:15:23student is um identified as having
- 00:15:27dyslexia as part of a an evaluation
- 00:15:31outside of the school does not mean that
- 00:15:33the student automatically qualifies um
- 00:15:37for special education services the
- 00:15:40student would still need to um meet
- 00:15:43criteria for sld eligibility in in
- 00:15:47Wisconsin Public
- 00:15:49Schools so how's that any questions
- 00:15:52about
- 00:15:53that not at this time okay good so if
- 00:15:58you're is your thinking about this as we
- 00:16:00go along please feel to free to type
- 00:16:03them in the the box and we can go ahead
- 00:16:06and and discuss
- 00:16:09those so the next um topic I wanted to
- 00:16:13talk about um with you and is kind of
- 00:16:17the a a source of some falsely H held
- 00:16:22ideas and also a topic of a office of
- 00:16:26special education programs memo is um
- 00:16:30response to
- 00:16:31intervention and how that um works with
- 00:16:35special education services I think I'm
- 00:16:37going to go
- 00:16:38ahead let's look to the next
- 00:16:41one and I'll come back to this one so in
- 00:16:47Wisconsin um all districts have to now
- 00:16:52implement the SL rule the three criteria
- 00:16:56for sld eligibility
- 00:16:59now what's a little bit different is
- 00:17:02that a fully implemented response to
- 00:17:05intervention system is not required by
- 00:17:09the rule and in fact in Wisconsin a
- 00:17:13response to intervention system or a
- 00:17:16multi-level system of
- 00:17:19support is not required either that's a
- 00:17:22an individual School District decision
- 00:17:26so the myth here is some people will say
- 00:17:29that the rule is the RTI rule or that
- 00:17:34the SL rule requires an RTI system or a
- 00:17:39multi-level system of support that's not
- 00:17:42true the sld rule defines how special
- 00:17:46education eligibility for sld is
- 00:17:49determined but it doesn't say that a
- 00:17:52multi-level system of support is
- 00:17:55required however here's the dicey part
- 00:17:58um if a student if a student if a school
- 00:18:02does have a fully implemented
- 00:18:04multi-level system of support they will
- 00:18:08likely find it easier to implement the
- 00:18:11SL
- 00:18:12Rule and here's why so I'm going to go
- 00:18:15back to the previous
- 00:18:19slide and this was a Continuum of
- 00:18:23services imagine that this fat arrow in
- 00:18:26the middle is a multi-level system
- 00:18:28system of support and that um
- 00:18:32multi-level system of support is going
- 00:18:34to go all the way from core instruction
- 00:18:38or Universal instruction the instruction
- 00:18:41the high quality instruction that all
- 00:18:43students receive all the way to
- 00:18:47interventions which are consistent with
- 00:18:49the sld rule so this is really a wide
- 00:18:54range of instruction and intervention
- 00:18:57that's in here
- 00:18:59um it's only
- 00:19:02when um a student is at the the um most
- 00:19:08specific um levels the highest levels
- 00:19:12the most intense levels that and and
- 00:19:16perhaps referral for for sld is being
- 00:19:19considered that the interventions need
- 00:19:22to be consistent with the S rule
- 00:19:25otherwise there's a great deal of
- 00:19:27flexibility that's included in here but
- 00:19:29if a school already has a multi-level
- 00:19:32system of support in this way if they
- 00:19:35already are implementing this Continuum
- 00:19:38of services it may well be much easier
- 00:19:41for them to move forward and implement
- 00:19:44the sld rule so again the sld rule does
- 00:19:48not require this Continuum but if this
- 00:19:52Continuum if a multi-level system of
- 00:19:55supports is available in a school
- 00:19:58district
- 00:19:59it might be easier to
- 00:20:04implement sometimes because of the need
- 00:20:08to implement two scientific
- 00:20:11research-based
- 00:20:13interventions um there might need to be
- 00:20:16an extension in the timeline so this
- 00:20:19relates to the multi-level system of
- 00:20:22support um in that um sometimes when a
- 00:20:26when a student is referred for a special
- 00:20:28educ
- 00:20:29evaluation those two interventions have
- 00:20:32not yet been completed this diagram
- 00:20:35shows typical evaluation timeline and
- 00:20:41what these typical evaluation timelines
- 00:20:44require is that there are up to 60 days
- 00:20:49um that are that pass between the time
- 00:20:53when appearent consents for evaluation
- 00:20:55and the IP team meets to determine elig
- 00:20:58ibility and there's lots of reasons for
- 00:21:01that 60-day timeline but if a student is
- 00:21:05referred for eligibility for special
- 00:21:09education um for specific learning
- 00:21:12disabilities in this instance and has
- 00:21:15not had two intensive scientific
- 00:21:19research-based um interventions
- 00:21:22completed then that is one of only three
- 00:21:26exceptions to this timeline in our
- 00:21:31state so it's this timeline ex extension
- 00:21:36is specific to initial S
- 00:21:40evaluations so this is the first time
- 00:21:43that a child is being referred for
- 00:21:45special education and it could be the
- 00:21:48first time even if they might be
- 00:21:50identified as having another disability
- 00:21:52but it's the first time that they're
- 00:21:54being evaluated for sld eligibility
- 00:21:58and this extension is um specific to the
- 00:22:02need to allow for the collection of
- 00:22:05necessary data when the student hasn't
- 00:22:08received those two intensive
- 00:22:10interventions when they're
- 00:22:12referred and now there this is something
- 00:22:15that I think is really critical to
- 00:22:18understand so because there are a lot of
- 00:22:20myths around this and I think it's
- 00:22:24really important that um School
- 00:22:27Personnel very carefully explain this to
- 00:22:29parents so that they understand what's
- 00:22:32coming forward in the future um one
- 00:22:35thing is that the this extension can
- 00:22:38only happen by written agreement of the
- 00:22:41IP team including the parent in other
- 00:22:44words the parent needs to um to sign
- 00:22:48written permission for this there has
- 00:22:51been a sample form developed and it's
- 00:22:54it's up on the DPI site if school
- 00:22:57districts wish to use it that um the M3
- 00:23:00form that that includes information that
- 00:23:04would be in needed that would be needed
- 00:23:07it's important that the agreement would
- 00:23:10include a date when the
- 00:23:12evaluation um would be completed I think
- 00:23:15that's really critical so that parents
- 00:23:18know what they're consenting to they
- 00:23:20know how much longer this is is going to
- 00:23:23take so of course School Personnel are
- 00:23:26going to need to look at what is
- 00:23:30required to implement those
- 00:23:33interventions uh if the student is being
- 00:23:36considered for other impairments in
- 00:23:39addition to specific learning
- 00:23:41disabilities so for instance If the
- 00:23:43child is being considered for sld and
- 00:23:46speech and language or um and other
- 00:23:51health impaired the extension um extends
- 00:23:55to the entire evaluation not just to the
- 00:23:58sld
- 00:24:00part the other um component about this
- 00:24:04is what happens you know if a parent
- 00:24:07does not give permission so and this is
- 00:24:10a question that parents ask me a lot of
- 00:24:13times so if the school district asks for
- 00:24:17um an extension specific to the purposes
- 00:24:20of collecting the these um intervention
- 00:24:24data um the parent can certainly um
- 00:24:27decide no that um consent is going to be
- 00:24:31withheld if that happens the IEP team is
- 00:24:35going to need to meet um during the the
- 00:24:38original timeline and make a decision
- 00:24:41about those
- 00:24:42SL um eligibility criteria it may be
- 00:24:47that the IP team will find that there's
- 00:24:49not enough uh data to determine that the
- 00:24:52child can be identified with sldd but
- 00:24:56but the decision is is always um the
- 00:25:00parents so that's kind of a a dicey area
- 00:25:05a hard to understand area any
- 00:25:09questions there are no questions at this
- 00:25:11time Deb all right I just want to make
- 00:25:15sure we have lots of good opportunities
- 00:25:17for questions so the next thing that I'd
- 00:25:20like to talk a little bit about in terms
- 00:25:23of myths and and areas where there are a
- 00:25:27lot of questions s um is about
- 00:25:30interventions because in the lld rule as
- 00:25:34I said there are those three criteria
- 00:25:37inadequate classroom achievement
- 00:25:39insufficient progress in response to a
- 00:25:42scientific research or evidence-based
- 00:25:45intervention and lack of exclusionary
- 00:25:48factors so this is um the biggest one
- 00:25:52this is the reason that you might need
- 00:25:55to have a timeline extension this is the
- 00:25:58reason that you might be concerned about
- 00:26:00a multi-level system of support so let's
- 00:26:05step back a little bit and talk about
- 00:26:08what is an intervention well pi1 defines
- 00:26:13an intervention pretty in a
- 00:26:15straightforward manner by saying that an
- 00:26:17intervention is the systematic use of a
- 00:26:21technique program or practice designed
- 00:26:24to improve learning or performance in
- 00:26:27specific areas of pupil
- 00:26:30need within the context of the sld rule
- 00:26:36um a scientific research-based
- 00:26:38intervention or srbi as we sometimes say
- 00:26:42for short because it gets to be long to
- 00:26:44say um has to meet some specific um
- 00:26:49standards um one specific standard is
- 00:26:52that the intervention needs to have a
- 00:26:55scientific research base or it needs to
- 00:26:57be
- 00:26:58evidence-based so the IP team um or the
- 00:27:02intervention team at the school needs to
- 00:27:05be selecting interventions that are
- 00:27:09based on some specific research in other
- 00:27:13words the notion here is that
- 00:27:16interventions are selected that have a
- 00:27:19known positive impact on learning of
- 00:27:23students who have characteristics that
- 00:27:26are similar to the student who is being
- 00:27:28referred in other words if you're
- 00:27:31looking at the eligibility of a child um
- 00:27:34for specific learning
- 00:27:37disabilities you want to make sure that
- 00:27:39you're using high quality instruction
- 00:27:42you don't want to waste anybody's time
- 00:27:44for this part of the SL eligibility
- 00:27:48criteria with an intervention that
- 00:27:50doesn't have a a track record and that
- 00:27:53there isn't evidence that moving forward
- 00:27:56is going to be useful so that's a big
- 00:27:59one and one of the myths here is that
- 00:28:02DPI has some kind of a list that um that
- 00:28:07districts can pick from in terms of what
- 00:28:10would be a good
- 00:28:12srbi that is not the case the selection
- 00:28:15of um SRB is a local school district
- 00:28:19decision just like other curriculum in a
- 00:28:22school so this is um an area where um
- 00:28:27teams really need to come together and
- 00:28:30look at the criteria that are included
- 00:28:31in the rule and make some
- 00:28:34decisions um about what's the best match
- 00:28:38for that student's
- 00:28:40needs within the context of the SL rule
- 00:28:44the srbi also needs to be used with
- 00:28:48individual students or with small groups
- 00:28:52of students so that relates to the
- 00:28:55intensity of the intervention this isn't
- 00:28:58whole group
- 00:29:02instruction the intervention is also
- 00:29:05focused
- 00:29:06on um one discrete skills area or a
- 00:29:10small number of discrete skills that are
- 00:29:13closely related to that students area of
- 00:29:17um learning needs and this relates to
- 00:29:20what the sld rule call the area of
- 00:29:23concern so there are there are eight of
- 00:29:26them three three of them are about
- 00:29:29reading um basic reading skills reading
- 00:29:34comprehension and reading
- 00:29:36fluency two of them are about math math
- 00:29:41calculations and math problem
- 00:29:43solving um written expression is is
- 00:29:47another one and listening comprehension
- 00:29:51and oral expression so those eight areas
- 00:29:54are included in the federal um
- 00:29:57definition of of specific learning
- 00:30:00disabilities and the IP team decides
- 00:30:04with input from the parents of course
- 00:30:06what are the areas of concern for that
- 00:30:09student that would be done at the time
- 00:30:11of existing data to decide what that
- 00:30:15match is so it's really important that
- 00:30:18the
- 00:30:19intervention um that's selected matches
- 00:30:22not only the demographic characteristics
- 00:30:25of the student the student's age the
- 00:30:27student's background and so on as well
- 00:30:30as the students area of learning
- 00:30:34need so um other Criterion for a
- 00:30:40specific um a scientific research-based
- 00:30:43intervention are that the um srbi is
- 00:30:48culturally responsive and that begins of
- 00:30:51course by selecting an intervention that
- 00:30:54has been used with um students who have
- 00:30:59similar characteristics as the student
- 00:31:02who is being referred um but it also
- 00:31:05looks at other aspects of cultural
- 00:31:09responsiveness um and srbi also provides
- 00:31:13a substantial number of instructional
- 00:31:15minutes beyond what is provided um to
- 00:31:18all
- 00:31:20students and the sld rule is silent
- 00:31:24really on what is a substantial number
- 00:31:27of
- 00:31:28instructional minutes um but that's a a
- 00:31:32way of thinking about this is um
- 00:31:35instruction that goes beyond that core
- 00:31:38that all students receive so it's a an
- 00:31:42adequate chunk of time that's beyond
- 00:31:45that these interventions have to be
- 00:31:48implemented with adequate um Fidelity
- 00:31:52and that's a word that is um Fidelity is
- 00:31:56defined within the context of the SL
- 00:31:59rule in terms of time so um for instance
- 00:32:04the rule specifies that it would be at
- 00:32:07least 80% of the recommended number of
- 00:32:09weeks sessions or minutes so here is
- 00:32:13where another myth um or mis
- 00:32:17misconception comes in um because I hear
- 00:32:21from parents and schools oh well you
- 00:32:24know is it true that interventions only
- 00:32:27need to be implemented for six weeks um
- 00:32:31Can interventions only be implemented
- 00:32:33for 10 weeks the fact of the matter is
- 00:32:36that interventions need to be um
- 00:32:41completed in a manner that is consistent
- 00:32:44with the way they were designed and for
- 00:32:47time period for which designed so that
- 00:32:51means that the first place um that needs
- 00:32:55to be consulted um is any sort of of
- 00:32:58Publishers manual or research studies
- 00:33:01that are done about that intervention
- 00:33:05that tell how long um the the
- 00:33:08intervention was implemented with other
- 00:33:11students um then you're going to also
- 00:33:14look at the data that's collected for a
- 00:33:16specific student um to make sure that
- 00:33:19you have a a reliable trend line that
- 00:33:21your line is going in One Direction and
- 00:33:24it's not headed all over the place so
- 00:33:28it really is a myth to say oh we only
- 00:33:31imple we always Implement interventions
- 00:33:34for six weeks or nine
- 00:33:36weeks it really is dependent on what the
- 00:33:40designers of that intervention said what
- 00:33:43research um about the intervention said
- 00:33:47and what data from that that particular
- 00:33:51students performance tell us
- 00:33:55so um intervention
- 00:33:58need to be implemented with adequate
- 00:34:04Fidelity Deb I do have a question at
- 00:34:07this time if that's okay with you sure
- 00:34:10okay the question is what qualifications
- 00:34:13does an SL teacher need to have to
- 00:34:16appropriately select an evidence-based
- 00:34:19practice from a menu of
- 00:34:22interventions uh that's a that's a
- 00:34:24really good question um I would say that
- 00:34:28of the time interventions that are
- 00:34:32selected are done by team not just by
- 00:34:36the sld
- 00:34:39teacher um in other words in most school
- 00:34:42districts this is a team decision when
- 00:34:45we're looking at um interventions for
- 00:34:48the purpose of determining SLB
- 00:34:51eligibility if it's something that the
- 00:34:53sld teacher is implementing um in her
- 00:34:57class CL
- 00:34:58room that would be um a different sort
- 00:35:01of situation in all
- 00:35:05instances excuse me in all
- 00:35:09instances um the primary
- 00:35:12qualification for
- 00:35:15intervention um selection and
- 00:35:17intervention
- 00:35:19implementation has to do with
- 00:35:22licensure so we do have some documents
- 00:35:25on the DPI um site about who can
- 00:35:29Implement interventions it's more about
- 00:35:32who can Implement them more than who can
- 00:35:34select
- 00:35:36them um but again it goes back to lure
- 00:35:40so for instance if if it is a reading um
- 00:35:45intervention that is being implemented
- 00:35:48it is most often a reading teacher
- 00:35:51somebody who holds a a 316 license who
- 00:35:54is going to be implementing that
- 00:35:56intervention or at the elementary level
- 00:35:59it might be the elementary general
- 00:36:01education
- 00:36:04teacher
- 00:36:05because those um individuals are
- 00:36:09prepared and licensed to teach reading
- 00:36:13if it's a math intervention then it
- 00:36:15would be somebody with um lure in that
- 00:36:18area so we really we really think about
- 00:36:21the lure about who can implement the
- 00:36:25interventions more than lure for who can
- 00:36:28select
- 00:36:32interventions excuse me I'm waiting for
- 00:36:34the frost to come so my allergies clear
- 00:36:38up um I do have one other question if
- 00:36:41you're willing to take it at this time
- 00:36:43sure um actually I have two that just
- 00:36:46came
- 00:36:47up do the first one is why isn't it a
- 00:36:51requirement in Wisconsin state law to
- 00:36:53screen K2 students for dyslexia
- 00:37:00okay um why isn't it a requirement um I
- 00:37:05I think because right now there are
- 00:37:08other screening tests that are used for
- 00:37:12young students um for emerging readers
- 00:37:16in the state of
- 00:37:18Wisconsin and um some of those look at
- 00:37:22some um early reading
- 00:37:26skills anic awareness and so forth areas
- 00:37:29that that some people might perceive
- 00:37:32would kind of overlap with
- 00:37:34considerations of Dyslexia so there is
- 00:37:37reading screening that's that's going on
- 00:37:41um there used to be a test from
- 00:37:44um that was sort of I don't want to say
- 00:37:47mandated but I guess it was sort of a
- 00:37:49mandate and um I'm struggling a little
- 00:37:52bit here because I don't um
- 00:37:57I don't that requirement was removed to
- 00:38:00the best of my knowledge last year and
- 00:38:03school districts are allowed now to pick
- 00:38:06which reading test they're going to use
- 00:38:08so um I can find out more about that so
- 00:38:12when we get to the end of the
- 00:38:14presentation you will see contact
- 00:38:17information for me and if you want to
- 00:38:20send me an email I will um check on that
- 00:38:24specific um requirement but I think the
- 00:38:27the short answer is that there is there
- 00:38:30is um reading screening that's going on
- 00:38:33for um Young Learners in Wisconsin and I
- 00:38:38think that that's you know the specific
- 00:38:40reason that that it's felt that that
- 00:38:42would identify those um emerging readers
- 00:38:46who need
- 00:38:49support okay thank you now now um I
- 00:38:52would you like me to hold the other
- 00:38:53questions I have two more at this time
- 00:38:57um you could go ahead Bonnie okay um the
- 00:39:01next question was um how many uh 316
- 00:39:05licensed reading teachers are there
- 00:39:07approximately in a district do you know
- 00:39:09that you know I think it just depends on
- 00:39:12the district I think that um more
- 00:39:15districts are trying to hire um
- 00:39:19individuals who you know have more than
- 00:39:22um just the one license so whether it's
- 00:39:25in general education or special
- 00:39:27education um I think districts are
- 00:39:31trying
- 00:39:32to obtain more of those teachers but I
- 00:39:35don't know um I know that there's a
- 00:39:39there's a requirement for um at least
- 00:39:44one but I don't know how many you know I
- 00:39:47think it's going to pretty much vary
- 00:39:49depending on the
- 00:39:51district okay and the last one that I
- 00:39:53have now is would you know of any online
- 00:39:56courses which may be valid enough to
- 00:39:59work with students with spe in special
- 00:40:01education or who have special
- 00:40:03education online
- 00:40:06courses
- 00:40:07yes um I I don't um I'm I don't know if
- 00:40:12this is uh in the context of um
- 00:40:18interventions for students there are
- 00:40:20some interventions that
- 00:40:24um I think some schools would use and
- 00:40:27I've seen some research about specific
- 00:40:31programs um that can be good uh I think
- 00:40:35it's a matter of looking for that
- 00:40:38specific information but I don't offand
- 00:40:42off the top of my head know um of
- 00:40:45specific courses so if you were looking
- 00:40:49for something that was more than an
- 00:40:52intervention say a course that was about
- 00:40:55American history or um algebra or
- 00:40:59something like that I don't know um
- 00:41:01again I would say if you um would like
- 00:41:06me to go further with that um my email
- 00:41:10will be at the end of the presentation
- 00:41:12and you could either send me an email or
- 00:41:14call me remind me of this um webinar
- 00:41:18that that was where we talked about it
- 00:41:20and I will um be happy to try and find
- 00:41:23out more information about that okay
- 00:41:26thank you
- 00:41:29yeah I'm I uh am really fortunate here
- 00:41:33at the department to work uh really
- 00:41:36closely with the folks in um on the
- 00:41:40literacy and Mathematics team um we just
- 00:41:44uh hired a a new consultant new
- 00:41:47mathematics consultant so I'm looking
- 00:41:49forward to working with her and I get to
- 00:41:51work pretty closely um with the literacy
- 00:41:55Consultants but as you can and see I
- 00:41:58kind of rely on them to answer some of
- 00:42:00the lens your questions and things for
- 00:42:03literacy so um please don't hesitate to
- 00:42:06get in touch with me and I will connect
- 00:42:08with them and get that information for
- 00:42:11you and that you know as we go back to
- 00:42:13this um last slide about the
- 00:42:17interventions I wanted to um also
- 00:42:22mention
- 00:42:24that in the context of the eligibility
- 00:42:29considerations it is not usually the
- 00:42:32special educator who is
- 00:42:35implementing the the interventions the
- 00:42:38the scientific research-based
- 00:42:42interventions um that only happens in a
- 00:42:47um very limited
- 00:42:50circumstances when the student is
- 00:42:52already the student already has an
- 00:42:55IEP and is being evaluated for specific
- 00:42:58learning disabilities for the first time
- 00:43:01so it's very narrow set of
- 00:43:04circumstances and that is
- 00:43:07because H you know if you think about
- 00:43:10that big fat Arrow again the the SRB the
- 00:43:15scientific research-based
- 00:43:18interventions really take place within
- 00:43:20the general education context that
- 00:43:24that's when it's part of the the
- 00:43:28eligibility
- 00:43:30determination the student is not yet in
- 00:43:32special education so the special
- 00:43:34educator is not going to be um
- 00:43:38completing those SRB as part of the
- 00:43:40eligibility the special educator
- 00:43:42certainly can can Implement
- 00:43:45interventions in other context you know
- 00:43:48and after a student is placed for
- 00:43:50example but just so to clear up that
- 00:43:53that confusion it's a little bit
- 00:43:54different role for special educators
- 00:43:58so um this slide in in one quick slide
- 00:44:03kind of shows you um why that extension
- 00:44:08to the inter uh to the timeline the
- 00:44:12evalu the IP evaluation timeline might
- 00:44:15be
- 00:44:16necessary the um sld rule requires that
- 00:44:21there are two
- 00:44:23srbi so in order to implement this um
- 00:44:27for each of the two SRB the Baseline is
- 00:44:32um determined and a median score um set
- 00:44:36using uh three probes then the
- 00:44:39intervention is
- 00:44:41implemented weekly or more frequent
- 00:44:45progress monitoring um data is collected
- 00:44:47using
- 00:44:49probs um the data are are analyzed and
- 00:44:54then when that whole process happens for
- 00:44:57one intervention then it's repeated um
- 00:45:02for the second intervention and again
- 00:45:05these interventions the SRB are
- 00:45:08implemented for as long as it is is
- 00:45:12necessary um to do so with
- 00:45:17Fidelity so some resources that I wanted
- 00:45:20to point out to you um one is the
- 00:45:24specific learning disabilities page now
- 00:45:27when Bonnie and I checked this out they
- 00:45:28were all
- 00:45:30working oh sure Bonnie now it's uh oh uh
- 00:45:35oh there you go I there you
- 00:45:40go I don't know why it's not
- 00:45:43opening let's try this
- 00:45:46one good is working um this is the
- 00:45:50website that I
- 00:45:52referenced um earlier and as I said this
- 00:45:56we it is for um learning and uh
- 00:46:00attention concerns uh there's a lot of
- 00:46:04great information here I think this is
- 00:46:06really pretty um easy to
- 00:46:10navigate and you can set up
- 00:46:14individual
- 00:46:16um parameters as you work through this
- 00:46:21um but you can get all sorts of
- 00:46:22different information from um as you can
- 00:46:25see social emot
- 00:46:28academic
- 00:46:29issues um community events so um this is
- 00:46:34one that you might you know I I wouldn't
- 00:46:36say that any website that's not um
- 00:46:41staffed by DPI you know presents
- 00:46:43information that is wholly consistent
- 00:46:46with DPI but this is a really great one
- 00:46:50that I think can you can get a lot of
- 00:46:51ideas and this is also excellent because
- 00:46:55you can um access information in English
- 00:46:59or in
- 00:47:01Spanish so let's
- 00:47:04see um one of the
- 00:47:07first um
- 00:47:10websites that really focused on Learners
- 00:47:14who have learning disabilities is um LD
- 00:47:18online and it was uh an awardwinning
- 00:47:23website now while it's loading here it's
- 00:47:26loading
- 00:47:27twice
- 00:47:29um one of the things that I really like
- 00:47:33about this is that there are different
- 00:47:37um different sections here that are for
- 00:47:45students and I thought it was right here
- 00:47:47but it's not
- 00:47:50um so there are sections of it that
- 00:47:53students might want to access students
- 00:47:55can particip
- 00:47:57ipate um by sharing their stories and
- 00:48:01their art and I've had some of my
- 00:48:04students um participate so it really
- 00:48:07does um include a lifespan approach to
- 00:48:11students with um learning disabilities
- 00:48:14in terms of information and it there's a
- 00:48:18lot of information here that's practical
- 00:48:21there are also some research based um
- 00:48:24sorts of articles that that can we
- 00:48:29read well sorry this a little clunkier
- 00:48:31than I
- 00:48:32thought um redon Wisconsin is one of my
- 00:48:38favorites um and this is a site from
- 00:48:42that's run by The Cooperative children's
- 00:48:45book Center which is um a
- 00:48:47non-circulating library at the
- 00:48:49University of Wisconson uh Madison but
- 00:48:54um The Cooperative children's book
- 00:48:56Center
- 00:48:57has partnered with a number of
- 00:49:00organizations including the Department
- 00:49:02of Public Instruction and every month
- 00:49:04they will have a topic and then
- 00:49:06different titles that they've selected
- 00:49:09to suggest to you and you can see it's
- 00:49:12um according to different uh grades so
- 00:49:18that um you can select materials that
- 00:49:22might be useful at home or in your
- 00:49:25classroom um you can check the titles
- 00:49:28out and uh go to your your local library
- 00:49:33um there are also additional resources
- 00:49:35that are that are included so I'd love
- 00:49:38reading and I think some of you do too
- 00:49:41based on your questions and that's a
- 00:49:44really wonderful site for parents and
- 00:49:46for teachers I'm going to go back
- 00:49:50here don't know why
- 00:49:57all right I'm going to go
- 00:50:00back then a different
- 00:50:08way if you hang on just wanted to show
- 00:50:16you all right I went in a different way
- 00:50:20the the site should get you there but um
- 00:50:23this is the uh specific learning
- 00:50:26disability page at the the Wisconsin
- 00:50:29Department of Public Instruction website
- 00:50:32and there's some introductory
- 00:50:35information um but then you can see down
- 00:50:38here um are a number of categories of
- 00:50:43information um that that we've referred
- 00:50:46to today so I referred to some forms and
- 00:50:49you can find those here um guidance for
- 00:50:53implementing the frequently asked
- 00:50:56questions document um is going to have
- 00:50:59good information for you if you're
- 00:51:01looking at information uh about the the
- 00:51:05SL eligibility
- 00:51:08process um licensing
- 00:51:12information and here's the document that
- 00:51:14I was talking about um licensing
- 00:51:17requirements for providing students with
- 00:51:20interventions is right there tells you
- 00:51:23what is
- 00:51:25needed um
- 00:51:32and supplemental guidance resources here
- 00:51:36is where um you'll find the dyslexia
- 00:51:40document um sld and plain language is a
- 00:51:43nice um resource that boils um down the
- 00:51:47requirements to two pages so um while
- 00:51:52this DPI page looks pretty formidable in
- 00:51:56terms of um navigating from one place to
- 00:52:01another there's a lot of information
- 00:52:04there and if you kind of click on
- 00:52:07individual links um you can get some
- 00:52:11information if you um get stuck in terms
- 00:52:15of um being able to find information
- 00:52:18again I would say um please contact me
- 00:52:22and um we'll do our best to
- 00:52:26get that sorted out for
- 00:52:31you so those were the the um primary
- 00:52:36resources that I wanted to kind of point
- 00:52:38out for you these are really excellent
- 00:52:41re resources in terms of busting myths
- 00:52:44um especially the the top three can
- 00:52:47provide information about specific
- 00:52:49learning
- 00:52:52disabil any
- 00:52:54questions I do have one additional one
- 00:52:57um and it's asking do you collaborate
- 00:53:00with
- 00:53:02weida and for those maybe we should
- 00:53:05explain what whb who what wibbit is okay
- 00:53:09and I'm trying to remember what the
- 00:53:10acronym stands
- 00:53:12for I think it's the Wisconsin um well
- 00:53:16the person who asked the question if you
- 00:53:18can spell it all out but it is the
- 00:53:20association for um reading disabilities
- 00:53:23I believe in our state yeah um part of
- 00:53:26my my hesitation is we that's one of the
- 00:53:31things we do hear at DPI a lot is um we
- 00:53:35really focus a lot on acronyms and I
- 00:53:37don't always break them down as well as
- 00:53:39I should but weida is one um reading
- 00:53:43organization um the
- 00:53:46Wisconsin yeah it's the Wiscon yeah
- 00:53:48sorry it's the Wisconsin branch of
- 00:53:50international dyslexia Association
- 00:53:52branches in Madison Milwaukee and oakair
- 00:53:55there you go thank you very much for
- 00:53:57providing that information so yeah
- 00:54:00there's um there's weida there's the um
- 00:54:04the reading Coalition in Wisconsin
- 00:54:07There's the Wisconsin State um wsr
- 00:54:10reading Association so at DPI what we
- 00:54:14try to do is um collaborate with all of
- 00:54:17the professional
- 00:54:19organizations so I you know I do have
- 00:54:21conversations with with uh folks from
- 00:54:24weida and from other organizations
- 00:54:27I also um I do offer um a a list serve
- 00:54:34for
- 00:54:35professionals
- 00:54:37um in in schools who work with students
- 00:54:41with sld but you know even as I'm saying
- 00:54:43that I mean it's really open to anybody
- 00:54:45so if anybody wanted to be on that list
- 00:54:48serve they could just let me know um and
- 00:54:51I there's sld Wisconsin sld has a a
- 00:54:55Twitter account and the reason I bring
- 00:54:58that up in the context of weida um is
- 00:55:02whenever I hear about different learning
- 00:55:04experiences that that professional
- 00:55:06groups have whether it's the Wisconsin
- 00:55:09Council for exceptional children or
- 00:55:12facets or anybody you know I try and um
- 00:55:16spread the word about that information
- 00:55:18so um that's one way that we that we
- 00:55:22collaborate with um other organizations
- 00:55:26I do have one other question for you Deb
- 00:55:28um can a school psych evaluation be used
- 00:55:31to guide intervention selection and
- 00:55:34identify student learning
- 00:55:38needs um that's a really I
- 00:55:42would I would say yes um because the all
- 00:55:48the information that's brought to the
- 00:55:51IEP team is used to help determine what
- 00:55:54is the area of concern
- 00:55:57you know when you when you're at that
- 00:55:58point of review of existing data um
- 00:56:03you're going to consider all the
- 00:56:04information that you have including a
- 00:56:07school psychology um
- 00:56:10evaluation you would not um you would
- 00:56:14not conduct uh an assessment like in in
- 00:56:18this in the context of the FLD
- 00:56:21rule the interventions are implemented
- 00:56:26and then um a classroom achievement test
- 00:56:29is administered so you wouldn't flip the
- 00:56:32order and have the School site
- 00:56:35administer you know like a school a
- 00:56:38classroom achievement test and then
- 00:56:40decide that the student was going to
- 00:56:44um be if that was going to be the area
- 00:56:47of concern U does that make any sense in
- 00:56:50other words you would consider those
- 00:56:51data from the school psychologist at the
- 00:56:54time of the review of existing data like
- 00:56:56you would all other information I'm not
- 00:56:59sure that's answering the question do
- 00:57:01they want
- 00:57:02to provide any more detail Bonnie um I
- 00:57:06can ask the questioner to provide any
- 00:57:09additional detail or if you believe that
- 00:57:11answers your question
- 00:57:15okay and then maybe if you have some
- 00:57:18parting summing words for
- 00:57:21everybody
- 00:57:24okay um I've been promising you
- 00:57:28throughout here is how you can uh
- 00:57:31contact me um email is great uh phone is
- 00:57:36great uh what whatever works best for
- 00:57:40you um as I said there have been a
- 00:57:42couple times during our time together
- 00:57:44this afternoon where I've asked you know
- 00:57:47you to get in touch with me if you would
- 00:57:50like additional information you can
- 00:57:53always um in other context as well um
- 00:57:57reach out to me either by phone or email
- 00:58:01and I'll do my utmost to get to get back
- 00:58:04to in a
- 00:58:05timely timely
- 00:58:07manner
- 00:58:09so thank you very much Deb um there is
- 00:58:12no followup to that question so I think
- 00:58:14you probably have answered it um for the
- 00:58:17person who asked it okay if not maybe
- 00:58:20they can um get be in touch with me also
- 00:58:23and and again I want to thank uh um
- 00:58:26thank everybody for being uh present
- 00:58:29today because uh our lives are all so
- 00:58:32busy and I I really appreciate um not
- 00:58:36only your attention but your but your
- 00:58:38interest um Wisconsin's SLB rule is you
- 00:58:43know as I said it's rolling along I
- 00:58:45think that a lot of us have learned a
- 00:58:47lot of information um within the past
- 00:58:50couple years and I think that we'll
- 00:58:52continue to learn together so thanks for
- 00:58:55being here
- 00:58:57well thank you very much Deb I'm sure
- 00:58:59that everybody in attendance today
- 00:59:01definitely appreciated your presentation
- 00:59:03and learned Lots from it this concludes
- 00:59:06our webinar for today thank you all for
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- 00:59:25after the webinar is completed have a
- 00:59:27great day and again thank you Deb for
- 00:59:29your most informative presentation today
- 00:59:32thank you everybody for attending thanks
- 00:59:36Bonnie thanks so much we really
- 00:59:39appreciate it
- 00:59:40Deb oh well
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