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and the fact you hosted The Nomad games
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this year moved from kyrgystan to
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Kazakhstan so that's great we met the
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Nomad Community yesterday and we
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actually went to like a first president
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Park which is not in the schedule at all
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amazing very beautiful it's very
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instagrammable as well definitely the
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Caspian Sea and then try the fish Bach
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fish fish fish thank you
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all right guys welcome back this is jle
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podcast and exclusively today we have
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gathered guests from all other the
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countries and um influencers and
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bloggers from all the other countries
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and I think today's episode is going to
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be something special uh talking about
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the tourism specifically in alate uh and
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special thanks to our partner Alma to
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visit for providing us this opportunity
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to record uh and shoot this episode with
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our guests today welcome guys thank you
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it's my pleasure to have you here today
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uh I think we should probably start with
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the introduction like introducing each
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other so let's get started from here
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hello my name is Dave I'm an adventure
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travel blogger from the UK great Dave
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nice to meet you mine is Amal I'm a
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multimedia journalist from Morocco great
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nice to meet you nice meet hello my name
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is William I'm a Singaporean and I'm a
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content creator I focus on lifestyle and
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also travel content wow that's amazing
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thank you thank you for having me here
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hi everybody my name is Ela I'm also
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from Singapore and I focus on uh mostly
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lifestyle Fashion Beauty I'm a content
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creator as well that's amazing thank you
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uh hello people of Kazakhstan I'm Mulin
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from Morocco I'm director of uh Daily
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Newspaper named M Lino MH and I'm happy
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to be here with you it's our pleasure to
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have you guys here today and let's start
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our discussion with probably the very
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first thing you've been here in alate
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for 3 days straight right like two 3
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days probably and what what places you
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already have visited here could you like
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share your first impressions maybe maybe
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bad maybe good what's on your mind
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basically can we start with you yeah we
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went to the the Grand Canyon of
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Kazakhstan yesterday absolutely
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beautiful landscape watching the sunet
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and like you got some amazing outdoor
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opportunities here for hiking in the
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national parks wasn't it cold here
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because as I've heard uh during the
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Autumn during the fall time it's pretty
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cold so no such thing as bad weather
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just bad clothing
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choices Elma what do you think uh it's
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the same we went to the second largest
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canyon in the world so it was amazing
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unfortunately we wanted like to discover
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and explore the lake CU we we've heard a
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lot about it but we couldn't make it
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unfortunately yeah it it was too darker
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so yeah but did you guys like so far
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search before coming here to Kazakhstan
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like as soon as you got the invitation
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to you guys maybe you've heard have you
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ever heard about something about KAS
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before us I think he off first he off
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first time here and we actually told our
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friends that we are coming here and they
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told us wow it's a very exotic place yes
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absolutely they very like oh wow we went
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online to actually this do some research
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and we found like lot of scenery
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landscape mountains like rivers and
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really beautiful and then that's why we
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are here to explore more that's amazing
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in fact we flew in
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earlier October yeah just to explore
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this uh place on our own and we actually
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went to like a first president Park
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which is not in the schedule at all
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amazing very beautiful it's very
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instagramable as well that's cool yeah
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and we also met very friendly locals
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here who actually brought us to like to
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the best spot to see the mountain views
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because we are first time there and then
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the park was very big and uh there's so
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much photos and videos opportunity and
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then we were like lost and then we say
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where where can we find the best
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Mountain views and then the L follow she
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was Russian right 13 years old only 13
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years old and she brought us to the to
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the best sport for the best view and she
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even asked us to dance a Russian dance
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she us how for me yeah for me like I
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told you I've graduated from Istanbul so
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I had a lot of kazakhstani friends and
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also the embassy of kazakstan in Doha
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he's a good friend of mine he's the one
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who invited me to explore this beautiful
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country so yeah I didn't hit it like to
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give it a try and I like it soaz for all
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unfortunately in the UK we we know the
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movie Borat so we actually know what the
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Kazakhstan flag looks like um but it's a
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shame that most of it was filmed in
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Romania and none of it is actually
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Kazakhstan so I've heard a lot about the
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Advent products the great hiking and
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Outdoors and the fact you hosted The
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Nomad games this year moved from Kyan to
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Kazakhstan so that's great we met the
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Nomad Community yesterday fascinating
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living in the Ys and how they live here
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so that was great to learn about the
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Nomad community in Kazakhstan this is
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the first question we ask every guest on
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our show on our podcast like you
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probably searched about Kazakhstan and
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then you probably got the images from
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Borat uh then what kind of like uh
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stereotypes were shaking in your head uh
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while coming here while seeing all this
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like what's the first impression by the
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way did you have a chance to walk inside
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the city like the city tour or yeah we
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did a city we did a city the first day
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but it's not it wasn't that much okay as
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I explained my my English is not perfect
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I I prefer to speak in
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French the same Skyline uh with the
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mountains and snow uh
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C
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kak yeah amazing I have one more
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question though as a local you know
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being a local here and then we all
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always see that foreigners they find
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something beautiful inside the city and
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then all this you know like modern
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postmodern or Soviet style buildings
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architecture it looks something unique
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as something unique and then for us for
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locals it doesn't really impress us
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because well that's you get used to
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it foreigners
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find what do
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youque it like as being a
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foreigner you came like from different
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culture different background different
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perspective so that's why when you visit
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a country or a culture for the first
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time everything is like feeling so
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unique and has their own touch so for me
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I didn't found it that much unique story
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for cuz it's I I I get used to it
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especially I I had like traveled a lot
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so it's um it's a it's like uh they they
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have some touch with the Russian
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architecture have you ever been to
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Russia before uh I didn't but I have a
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lot of Russian friends oh okay yeah so
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uh I I write about Russian architecture
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before so yeah how would you compare
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maybe with other countries are there any
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similarities between kazakhstan's
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architecture with any other countries
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you've been before Dave as a as from
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your own experience maybe uh I I can't
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think off the top of my head now any
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ideas for example in you've been in
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Istanbul yeah yeah in Istanbul there is
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a area called jangar jangar is the the
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architecture there it's like a Russian
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Russian architect so it's too similar we
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went to the park 20 28
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Park exactly and there was a a house
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with the wood it's the same architecture
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in Jian that's why I I interesting
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that's like interesting for I think
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that's Museum nowadays like traditional
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musical instruments of cast yeah and
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it's also a center of Poli or something
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yeah the one with the wood yeah
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absolutely and the church is also very
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beautiful yeah it is it is the church is
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like pretty over right
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1907 197 or something like that also
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second largest wood Church in the world
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right
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iess I was impressed right yeah you guys
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like from Singapore and then for us from
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kazakhstani people it's it's considered
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as a as you just said exotic country no
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to visit to go because a lot of our
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people they they usually prefer to go to
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Dubai they go to Istanbul Turkey but
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never go to Singapore Thailand or
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Malaysia or like okay so what's your um
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how different it is how different when
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you came climate climate difference
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climate difference it's like we don't
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have uh uh the Four Seasons M yeah it's
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always like you know sunny or rainy yeah
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yeah and Singapore is filled with a lot
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of tall buildings even like our um like
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uh how say hdb concrete buildings that
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is like super tall unlike here where by
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the buildings are like a little bit
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lower and they can see more Skies
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correct yeah and our because our uh
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Singapore right our land is like very
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scar yeah so it's like just a very small
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place compared to small country compared
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to kistan
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yeah when you have all those skyscrapers
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in Singapore and I'm I'm aware that
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Singapore is pretty modern right if you
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ever been to aana uh our capital A lot
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of people say that uh aana is uh you
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know going with the with the same style
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of Singapore
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style well it's allowed to build tall
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buildings there in aana due to because
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in Alat it's earthquake risks and so on
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so forth that's one of the reasons it's
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not allowed uh but when you come to a
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city like alate or maybe where the
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buildings are not that tall uh how do
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you feel yourself cuz I've heard a lot
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of things that Alma has a lot of green
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you know yeah correct a bit similar to
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like Singapore where we have a lot of
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trees around and but just that uh
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because uh our land is yeah so all the
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buildings are like pack packed to uh
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like close to each other compared to
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here whereby it's like more widespread
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yeah one thing I um observe about am is
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that um the road are very uh smooth and
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it's like Singapore maintain yeah very
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well maintained smooth and then you
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never find like a like a crack hole hole
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on the along the pavement so I think the
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government did a good job in maintaining
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the
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to uh I've been to couple times and then
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you know this narrow roads of a stumble
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like it's crazy like transport it's not
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a place for transport it's not it's not
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a place for your personal uh cars or
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something because it's really hard uh
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here it's pretty white yes it's too huge
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like that's true um could you uh share
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about your EXP experience maybe in
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Morocco I mean I've never been to
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Morocco I've been to you're welcome
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Algeria though you have to Country I've
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seen a lot of photos and images of
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Casablanca and then uh maresh and rabad
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North T yeah could you share us your uh
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views towards are there any similarities
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between Kazakhstan and maybe Morocco
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because Kazakhstan is kindly considered
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as the Eastern country mhm like Eastern
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mentality and stuff you know so then
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well majority are Muslims also uh are
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there any similarities between Morocco
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and kakhan
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Mos there
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yes MH
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if
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amazing amazing I have one more question
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uh I think the most important question
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is about
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cuisine food did you have a chance to
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try our local food yes we did what did
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you like the most what's the I love the
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soups soup I've been eating a lot of
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soups chicken noodle soup dumpling soup
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love the soups and the the um kazak
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restaurant we went to on the first day
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was fantastic that was really good we
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could really try all the the horse meal
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and the the meats and the a variety of
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kazak dishes that was a good
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introduction that was amazing I mean uh
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you know to be honest with you the kazak
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cuisine itself I mean as a as a part of
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a tourism destination have developed has
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been developed only like for 5 years for
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the last 5 years because a lot of
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foreigners who used to come here they
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were always complaining about there is
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no authentic place to go and to try
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kazak food but then uh in The Last 5
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Years it's been developing like super
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fast this uh destination I'm saying and
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then a lot of kazak restaurants were
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opened were released and then nowadays
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tourists foreigners they don't have
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problem tasting real kazak authentic
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traditional food so that's
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great okay mhm bread uh bread kazak
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bread uh shash shash yes we it is it's
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very tasty uh have you tried barmak
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already the the meat and the horse meat
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the horse meat you tried it wait I think
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I I didn't yeah horse meat horse sausage
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yeah we St the grill grill horse meat
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too is that is that like considered a
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regular thing in your country no of
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course not no me in Singapore all right
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I was trying yeah first time we are
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trying it and then I was thinking like
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to bring back to Singapore to let my
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friends try because I saw there like can
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HSE meat can one then I thought I can
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bring back then I went Google and uh
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Singapore is not all to bring back meat
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that's interesting for
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me I think you missed the chance like I
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missed it and I don't want to try to be
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honest cuz I'm still no wait I'm I'm too
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into horses I I do horse riding so for
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me to try something like this I'm like
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no
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for no it's not for me but yeah it's a
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good thing and also they they they had
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like horse milk milk we tried it you we
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tried they say there like 1% alcohol you
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don't need to kill the horse for oh my
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God I I can't even like think about it
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there was a lot of left put it in the
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takeway box and at it later I Lov it
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yeah it was great and they came with a
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big plate of course oh my
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God for me personal I I love horses I I
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I worked eight years with horses and uh
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we're in the same page
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I have a question since you have a Bigg
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experience traveling and visiting other
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countries uh I've heard about that
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nowadays horse mid is being exported to
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some European countries in some medical
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purposes have you heard about that no or
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as as a person as maybe you you visited
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Germany or any other countries and then
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the horse milk as well have been
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transported and exported to Germany and
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some medical purposes like in order to
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strengthen your immune system and kind
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of things so if you ever heard about
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that I mean
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only
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milk
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SK it's kind of pretty it might be
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similar but the donkey one not the horse
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one for the skin care like they have
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their only their own saon and oil and
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stuff yeah and it's good for the skin by
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the way wow it's very expensive and it's
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expensive yeah cool that's cool yeah
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pretty exotic though it's too known in
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in in Turkey they uh they export from
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the
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Morocco good uh so uh in general like uh
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what would you like to share about maybe
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you know during any trip during any trip
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there might be some uh difficulties and
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anyway right related to the
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transportation related to maybe people
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right uh some people some foreigners say
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that kazak people are pretty cold you
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know like in mentality they don't smile
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a lot they are like pretty reserved and
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closed uh what do you think about it
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have you had a chance to communicate
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with some locals some count
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he speak he don't speak English
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yes
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absolutely with uh with the multiple
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languages right not only English but
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then I also like once uh said about this
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initiative to the alma visit and others
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to improve uh languages right the scale
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of languages that we have because a lot
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of people suffer uh there's only like in
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English and then I also try to tell them
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that you probably have to uh put some
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Chinese language
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and comfortable especially at restaurant
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I think menus like if let's say they
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have English menu would exact but we use
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Google Lens to
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translate yeah true Dave and I I've come
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in the wrong season I want to come back
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with my skis for sure the skiing looks
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amazing here and I think Prince Harry's
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been skiing here right so it's known as
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a very popular ski and when we saw the
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slopes I was like oh there's no snow but
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I would have loved to gone down the
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slopes so you should definitely come
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back during December or uh February
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January that's that's the greatest
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season here or skiing yeah a lot of
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people come here and then it's
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comparatively uh you know not that
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expensive yeah it's pretty affordable
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for forers to come
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and uhhuh any other difficulties what
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about people we're still touching upon
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the people actually we had a very great
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experience with uh
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yeah because I think the reason why a
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lot of people feel that Kazan people
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might feel a little bit cold is because
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of the language barrier but you know if
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let say somebody can speak English right
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like the the gentleman that we met in
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one of the restaurants uh he actually
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show us how to download the uh
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Transportation app where I can book
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taxis yeah and he also uh uh told us
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like what are the National Cuisine to
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order yeah and he even offered like oh
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you know in say you guys are free right
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you know uh just call me and then we can
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go k amazing he offered a service to to
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bring us around to show us a place and
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she he even offered us a how he treat us
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to a dish he bought a dish I was like
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it's like first time meeting and then he
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treat us to a dish I was like wow this
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guy is really hospitable yeah they're
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saying like a lot of people say if you
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become a good friend with kazak people
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with kazak person then that friendship
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is going to last for a long time like
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like it's a true friendship the same
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thing people say about Russian people
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like at the first glance that may be
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kind of cold
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uh thing uh attitude towards you but as
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soon as you become close friend corre
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that's last for for a long time so
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that's true yeah thank you it's our
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pleasure uh what about uh since you guys
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been traveling throughout the world uh
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you visited a lot of countries uh I'd
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like to hear about some World Trends you
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know maybe some things that Kazakhstan
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should pay attention to in the world
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like some things uh that we have to you
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know get to ourselves and try to improve
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it try to develop it would you like to
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note I think the transportation because
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in Singapore in uh Thailand and some in
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Japan as well we have the trains or we
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call in Singapore it's called MRT yeah
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here it's I think it's only just like
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buses as well as uh if you book uh we
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taxi to the app so Tech uh so trains
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right it's actually faster to get from
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one place to another place it's not
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accessible public
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transportation Transportation also the
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thing that we' talked about for the
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language when you go to a restaurant or
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something they only have the menu in
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Russian or kazakistan so it's too
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difficult for the tourist but yeah we
00:24:16
managed it thank God it was a GU with us
00:24:20
so yeah what do you think about uh in my
00:24:22
personal opinion language is a good
00:24:24
thing absolutely but sometimes I also
00:24:27
think that uh well I'm a polya myself
00:24:29
and I speak like multiple languages and
00:24:32
then you know sometimes when I visit
00:24:34
another country for example France well
00:24:36
I've been to France a couple of times
00:24:37
and then in order to dive deeper into
00:24:39
this mentality and culture sometimes
00:24:42
it's maybe even better that they don't
00:24:45
have English you know like to fill to
00:24:48
get into this atmosphere fully uh what
00:24:51
do you think about it like have you ever
00:24:53
thought about it maybe but how you going
00:24:56
to deal with with them corre the
00:24:59
understanding that's yeah if you don't
00:25:03
understand how you going to deal with
00:25:05
them I usually just learn a
00:25:07
language people just prefer learning a
00:25:10
local language especially with fresh
00:25:11
people like they're absolutely yeah
00:25:14
they're not easy to deal with
00:25:29
the real life of
00:25:57
kakan for
00:26:39
great so yeah absolutely I absolutely
00:26:41
agree that we have to improve our
00:26:43
language uh hear uh you know a lot of
00:26:46
people still say that Kazakhstan isn't
00:26:49
the most English friendly country like
00:26:50
English speaking friendly country uh but
00:26:54
we're working on it uh hopefully the
00:26:56
younger generation nowaday uh they are
00:26:58
trying to do their best trying to learn
00:27:01
the language and then welcoming others
00:27:02
and for and then as you might
00:27:06
notice uh Kazakhstan is becoming more
00:27:09
popular uh currently uh as a t tourism
00:27:13
destination for tourists due to you guys
00:27:16
like also uh talking and sharing about
00:27:20
Kazakhstan because I think in the last
00:27:23
year uh some uh very influential people
00:27:27
from Arab countries they have visited
00:27:29
Kazakhstan once and those videos were on
00:27:33
Tik Tok like you know like they they've
00:27:35
been going to Kai and the the the
00:27:39
Lakes View and then we had a the
00:27:43
majority of tourists nowadays they are
00:27:45
coming from these Gulf countries you
00:27:47
know like Qatar
00:27:50
Dubai U due to just some the power of
00:27:54
social media yeah the power of social
00:27:55
media when you went vant yeah you got
00:27:59
this that's why we rely on you
00:28:03
guys that's true that's true so uh what
00:28:06
are your expectations uh from further uh
00:28:10
do you have any plans to come back to
00:28:11
Kazakhstan maybe uh and when once you
00:28:15
come back what do you want to visit
00:28:19
anything else maybe some other
00:28:21
preferences in the
00:28:24
future for me absolutely it's going to
00:28:26
be the lake that we miss yesterday yeah
00:28:30
I saw the videos and the pictures of it
00:28:32
it was amazing why did you miss it by
00:28:34
the way was it any because it's too late
00:28:37
Sunset and it's dark it was to darker
00:28:39
well it's pretty far also to go exactly
00:28:42
correct yeah
00:29:15
Turkish Airlines
00:29:28
going absolutely yeah guys what do you
00:29:31
do you plan any plans to come back
00:29:33
actually have a suggestion because we
00:29:35
need direct flight from Singapore to
00:29:38
yeah that would be correct because we
00:29:39
took Transit flight over here we spend
00:29:41
about like 12 hours yeah so that we best
00:29:44
you know then that will encourage more
00:29:46
people come come over here absolutely
00:29:48
yeah that's true Dave you got some great
00:29:52
outdoors and I'd love to go hiking so do
00:29:54
some of the trails come back and check
00:29:56
out some of your beautiful nature that
00:29:58
I've only had a little tap has tasted of
00:30:00
so uh and uh yeah hopefully when the the
00:30:03
lighting is a bit more longer longer
00:30:05
days and then stay with the Nomad
00:30:07
communities in the Ys and get out into
00:30:09
the beautiful
00:30:11
country yeah and I also my suggestion
00:30:14
would be if you are going to come back
00:30:17
any soon or by any chance uh try to
00:30:20
visit the cultural uh Capital which is
00:30:24
turkistan which is located on the uh
00:30:27
South part of kazak
00:30:28
and you know it's been developing super
00:30:30
fast like Last 5 Years and then if you
00:30:33
go there you can like dive deeper into
00:30:35
this 19th century 18th century of kazak
00:30:38
you know well it's pretty uh it's called
00:30:42
like the the capital of
00:30:44
Turk uh
00:30:47
Nations yeah a lot of turkey people
00:30:49
Turkish people come there because
00:30:52
thewi uh one of the influential like
00:30:55
philosophers at that at the time buried
00:30:58
there and then a lot of people come
00:31:00
there they gather so they speak Turkish
00:31:02
as well uh there are a lot of Turkish
00:31:03
people I'm not sure if they speak
00:31:05
Turkish there's a lot of Kaz like speak
00:31:08
Turkish at least understand
00:31:40
yeah cic music cic industry is another
00:31:44
interesting thing that you can also try
00:31:46
yeah and of course our Capital aana uh
00:31:49
if you're going to have chance try to
00:31:50
visit aana you can definitely compare
00:31:53
the difference between aana and almati
00:31:55
and see this difference you it's more
00:31:57
called than Al it's colder but it's you
00:32:00
know it's cleaner it's newer it's more
00:32:04
modern and people are different there
00:32:07
you can see it at first glance you know
00:32:10
different in what sense in what sense um
00:32:12
because it's capital I mean as you were
00:32:15
came from Turkey I can say there was
00:32:17
people of anara and then people
00:32:20
of absolutely Al people of R and
00:32:25
Kaz it's more formal it's more
00:32:28
official it's more like business
00:32:32
suit a lot of events uh happen there too
00:32:36
so if you have chance try to visit the
00:32:38
city as well Co yeah nice I think
00:32:40
there's really a lot to explore here
00:32:42
absolutely still a lot of lands a lot of
00:32:44
places a lot of destinations to explore
00:32:47
uh and yeah if you're a lover of outdoor
00:32:49
tourism and hiking the land is super big
00:32:53
I mean wherever you go you can explore
00:32:56
and I'll be back
00:32:58
today we go to akow what can you tell us
00:33:01
about going to today yeah we're going to
00:33:03
act definitely the Caspian Sea and then
00:33:06
try the fish barmach fish fish fish B I
00:33:10
think it's in the list of your barmach
00:33:12
or barmach Bach so there is a Bish
00:33:15
barmach which is the
00:33:17
traditional and then fish Bach which is
00:33:19
adapted for the fish like it's basically
00:33:22
fish parach so what's parmak in Turkish
00:33:25
it means finger that's why I
00:33:29
yeah fish so then um it's uh a
00:33:32
traditional cuisine adapted for the
00:33:36
Western Kazakhstan
00:33:38
people they they have Caspian Sea and
00:33:40
then they have a lot of fish so fish
00:33:43
it's kind of fish fish so how many
00:33:46
cities you have here in kazakstan the
00:33:48
well we have uh in total I don't know in
00:33:51
total but I know the the the biggest
00:33:54
cities so like maybe six or seven seven
00:33:58
that you have to visit including sh
00:34:01
turkistan
00:34:02
alate aana and babai which is great
00:34:06
place yeah it's located in the northern
00:34:08
part of aana and it's like in a fairy
00:34:12
tale Fair especially during the winter
00:34:15
time W it's like
00:34:16
you enter this place and then you are
00:34:19
like in a fairy tale because I used to
00:34:21
shoot uh uh this traveling content there
00:34:26
also and then we visit this hotel which
00:34:28
is located right inside the city uh and
00:34:32
the surrounding is the trees and then
00:34:35
you know like great super winter okay
00:34:38
okay so it's a bit like Castle yeah it's
00:34:40
it looks like a
00:34:42
castle wow inter so it's beautiful
00:34:44
yeahor again I can't get over yeah I
00:34:49
can't get over the size of Kazakhstan
00:34:51
like we're doing a 3our domestic
00:34:53
flight like wow in Europe you pass 12
00:34:56
countries already
00:34:58
yeah right so uh thank you guys for
00:35:01
being with us great talking to you um a
00:35:05
lot of insights a lot of good things
00:35:08
you've been you taught uh you told us
00:35:10
here on on the podcast I think those who
00:35:12
are watching us are going to take those
00:35:14
things into account and try to develop
00:35:16
them try to work on them uh thank you
00:35:18
once again for being with us today thank
00:35:20
you so for having us have have a good
00:35:22
flight to enjoy your trips enjoy your
00:35:27
staying here Kazakhstan I hope
00:35:28
everything's going to be well I truly
00:35:31
hope so you so much