#22 JETIL PODCAST: SOCIAL MEDIA INFLUENCERS, IMPRESSIONS ABOUT KAZAKHSTAN, CHALLENGES AND PLANS

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Résumé

TLDRIn this JLE podcast episode, international guests and influencers share their experiences visiting Kazakhstan. The Nomad Games have been relocated there, showcasing the country's nomadic heritage. The episode delves into the stunning landscapes such as canyons and the option of skiing, issues in public infrastructure like transportation, and rich cultural spots like Turkistan. Foods like horse meat and soups received special mention. The guests found locals hospitable but faced initial challenges with language barriers. Comparisons are made between Kazakh and Russian architecture, and Almaty is likened to Singapore in its greenness.

A retenir

  • 🌍 The Nomad Games were moved from Kyrgyzstan to Kazakhstan.
  • 🏞️ Kazakhstan boasts stunning landscapes, including a canyon visited by the guests.
  • 🍜 Kazakh cuisine, especially soups and horse meat, left a strong impression on the visitors.
  • 🏙️ Almaty has a lot of greenery and is similar to Singapore in that regard.
  • 🚄 There's a need for better public transportation, such as trains, in Kazakhstan.
  • 🏔️ Kazakhstan is known for its skiing resorts, attracting tourists globally.
  • 🕌 Comparisons between Kazakh and Russian architecture intrigued the guests.
  • 🗣️ Language barriers exist, but locals are considered hospitable once communication is possible.
  • 🥰 Locals are seen as hospitable despite initial impressions of coldness due to language barriers.
  • 🕌 Turkistan is a cultural capital with historical attractions.

Chronologie

  • 00:00:00 - 00:05:00

    The podcast episode features a discussion about tourism with international guests in Almaty, Kazakhstan. The guests introduce themselves, revealing diverse backgrounds as travel bloggers, content creators, and journalists from countries like the UK, Morocco, and Singapore. They share their experiences exploring Kazakhstan, emphasizing its beautiful landscapes such as the Grand Canyon and encounters with the hospitable locals. The discussion touches on the unique appeal of Kazakhstan’s architecture and the influence of Russian styles, which intrigues the guests despite being familiar with similar architectures in other countries.

  • 00:05:00 - 00:10:00

    Further, the guests reflect on Kazakhstan's hospitality and the Nomad community, highlighting the challenges and stereotypes faced when traveling. They express gratitude for the friendly local interactions, mentioning how such experiences counter preconceived notions often derived from media representations like 'Borat.' While comparing cultural experiences, they mention the exciting offer to explore the country further and understand Kazakhstan's cultural heritage and landscapes.

  • 00:10:00 - 00:15:00

    Guests express surprise at the warmth and hospitality of Kazakhstan's people, contrary to perceptions of coldness due to language barriers. They share instances of friendly locals aiding them with transport and offering to explore more parts of the city, which felt genuine and welcoming. There are discussions about the differences in city infrastructure and architecture when compared to their home cities like Singapore, and the impact of Kazakhstan's unique climate on its urban planning.

  • 00:15:00 - 00:20:00

    The conversation shifts to local cuisine, where guests delight in trying traditional Kazakh dishes such as horse meat and mare’s milk, sharing their initial hesitations and eventual appreciation. This includes recognizing the developing gastronomic scene in Kazakhstan, a facet that has improved significantly over the past few years, enhancing the overall tourist experience significantly. They suggest that Kazakhstan's uniqueness could attract more global visitors if certain infrastructures, like direct flights and language options, are improved.

  • 00:20:00 - 00:25:00

    Guests talk about their future travel plans, showing enthusiasm to return and explore more of Kazakhstan, such as its beautiful natural parks and cultural heritage sites. Suggestions for Kazakhstan's further development as a tourist destination include enhancing public transportation and offering multilingual services in tourist areas. They also appreciate the vast, untapped natural beauty of Kazakhstan, such as its ski resorts and hiking trails, which promise a wide range of outdoor activities.

  • 00:25:00 - 00:30:00

    The episode also highlights the influence of social media and international endorsements in boosting Kazakhstan's profile as a travel destination. The participants acknowledge the potential for Kazakhstan to attract more international tourists through strategic improvements and tapping into trends that appeal to adventurous travelers. The guests underscore the importance of infrastructure improvements, like direct flights and multilingual services, to support this growth.

  • 00:30:00 - 00:35:49

    Concluding the discussion, the guests affirm their positive experiences in Kazakhstan and express eagerness to explore more destinations within the country. The conversation reflects optimism about Kazakhstan's capacity to become a major travel hub, with its rich cultural heritage and stunning landscapes offering significant potential for growth in the global tourism arena.

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Vidéo Q&R

  • Where did the Nomad Games move to this year?

    The Nomad Games moved from Kyrgyzstan to Kazakhstan.

  • What is a popular cuisine aspect mentioned by the visitors in Kazakhstan?

    The visitors mentioned Kazakh soups and horse meat as notable parts of the cuisine.

  • How do tourists perceive Kazakh people upon first meeting them?

    Tourists initially perceive Kazakh people as somewhat reserved or cold due to language barriers, but find them hospitable once communication is established.

  • What is an identified need for improvement in Kazakhstan according to the visitors?

    Visitors identified the need for better public transportation, such as a train system, in Kazakhstan.

  • What type of scenery impressed the visitors in Kazakhstan?

    Visitors were impressed by Kazakhstan's canyons, mountains, and overall landscapes.

  • How is Almaty compared to Singapore by some visitors?

    Almaty is compared to Singapore due to its greenery, but with notably fewer skyscrapers.

  • Why is Kazakhstan not considered very English-friendly?

    Kazakhstan is seen as not very English-friendly due to language barriers at places like restaurants where menus are often not in English.

  • What cultural aspect of Kazakhstan is suggested as a travel interest?

    The cultural and historical capital Turkistan is suggested as a travel interest for its rich history and architecture.

  • What climate difference surprised visitors from Singapore?

    Visitors from Singapore noted the presence of four seasons in Kazakhstan, unlike their home country's consistent climate.

  • What was a notable experience with a local mentioned by the visitors?

    A local in Kazakhstan showed the visitors a transportation app and helped them with menu choices, demonstrating hospitality.

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    and the fact you hosted The Nomad games
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    this year moved from kyrgystan to
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    Kazakhstan so that's great we met the
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    Nomad Community yesterday and we
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    actually went to like a first president
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    Park which is not in the schedule at all
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    amazing very beautiful it's very
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    instagrammable as well definitely the
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    Caspian Sea and then try the fish Bach
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    fish fish fish thank you
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    all right guys welcome back this is jle
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    podcast and exclusively today we have
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    gathered guests from all other the
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    countries and um influencers and
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    bloggers from all the other countries
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    and I think today's episode is going to
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    be something special uh talking about
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    the tourism specifically in alate uh and
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    special thanks to our partner Alma to
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    visit for providing us this opportunity
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    to record uh and shoot this episode with
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    our guests today welcome guys thank you
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    it's my pleasure to have you here today
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    uh I think we should probably start with
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    the introduction like introducing each
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    other so let's get started from here
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    hello my name is Dave I'm an adventure
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    travel blogger from the UK great Dave
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    nice to meet you mine is Amal I'm a
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    multimedia journalist from Morocco great
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    nice to meet you nice meet hello my name
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    is William I'm a Singaporean and I'm a
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    content creator I focus on lifestyle and
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    also travel content wow that's amazing
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    thank you thank you for having me here
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    hi everybody my name is Ela I'm also
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    from Singapore and I focus on uh mostly
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    lifestyle Fashion Beauty I'm a content
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    creator as well that's amazing thank you
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    uh hello people of Kazakhstan I'm Mulin
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    from Morocco I'm director of uh Daily
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    Newspaper named M Lino MH and I'm happy
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    to be here with you it's our pleasure to
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    have you guys here today and let's start
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    our discussion with probably the very
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    first thing you've been here in alate
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    for 3 days straight right like two 3
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    days probably and what what places you
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    already have visited here could you like
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    share your first impressions maybe maybe
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    bad maybe good what's on your mind
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    basically can we start with you yeah we
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    went to the the Grand Canyon of
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    Kazakhstan yesterday absolutely
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    beautiful landscape watching the sunet
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    and like you got some amazing outdoor
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    opportunities here for hiking in the
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    national parks wasn't it cold here
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    because as I've heard uh during the
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    Autumn during the fall time it's pretty
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    cold so no such thing as bad weather
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    just bad clothing
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    choices Elma what do you think uh it's
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    the same we went to the second largest
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    canyon in the world so it was amazing
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    unfortunately we wanted like to discover
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    and explore the lake CU we we've heard a
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    lot about it but we couldn't make it
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    unfortunately yeah it it was too darker
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    so yeah but did you guys like so far
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    search before coming here to Kazakhstan
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    like as soon as you got the invitation
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    to you guys maybe you've heard have you
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    ever heard about something about KAS
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    before us I think he off first he off
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    first time here and we actually told our
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    friends that we are coming here and they
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    told us wow it's a very exotic place yes
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    absolutely they very like oh wow we went
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    online to actually this do some research
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    and we found like lot of scenery
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    landscape mountains like rivers and
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    really beautiful and then that's why we
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    are here to explore more that's amazing
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    in fact we flew in
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    earlier October yeah just to explore
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    this uh place on our own and we actually
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    went to like a first president Park
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    which is not in the schedule at all
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    amazing very beautiful it's very
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    instagramable as well that's cool yeah
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    and we also met very friendly locals
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    here who actually brought us to like to
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    the best spot to see the mountain views
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    because we are first time there and then
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    the park was very big and uh there's so
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    much photos and videos opportunity and
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    then we were like lost and then we say
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    where where can we find the best
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    Mountain views and then the L follow she
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    was Russian right 13 years old only 13
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    years old and she brought us to the to
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    the best sport for the best view and she
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    even asked us to dance a Russian dance
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    she us how for me yeah for me like I
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    told you I've graduated from Istanbul so
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    I had a lot of kazakhstani friends and
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    also the embassy of kazakstan in Doha
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    he's a good friend of mine he's the one
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    who invited me to explore this beautiful
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    country so yeah I didn't hit it like to
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    give it a try and I like it soaz for all
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    unfortunately in the UK we we know the
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    movie Borat so we actually know what the
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    Kazakhstan flag looks like um but it's a
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    shame that most of it was filmed in
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    Romania and none of it is actually
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    Kazakhstan so I've heard a lot about the
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    Advent products the great hiking and
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    Outdoors and the fact you hosted The
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    Nomad games this year moved from Kyan to
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    Kazakhstan so that's great we met the
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    Nomad Community yesterday fascinating
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    living in the Ys and how they live here
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    so that was great to learn about the
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    Nomad community in Kazakhstan this is
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    the first question we ask every guest on
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    our show on our podcast like you
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    probably searched about Kazakhstan and
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    then you probably got the images from
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    Borat uh then what kind of like uh
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    stereotypes were shaking in your head uh
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    while coming here while seeing all this
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    like what's the first impression by the
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    way did you have a chance to walk inside
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    the city like the city tour or yeah we
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    did a city we did a city the first day
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    but it's not it wasn't that much okay as
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    I explained my my English is not perfect
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    I I prefer to speak in
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    French the same Skyline uh with the
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    mountains and snow uh
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    C
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    kak yeah amazing I have one more
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    question though as a local you know
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    being a local here and then we all
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    always see that foreigners they find
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    something beautiful inside the city and
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    then all this you know like modern
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    postmodern or Soviet style buildings
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    architecture it looks something unique
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    as something unique and then for us for
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    locals it doesn't really impress us
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    because well that's you get used to
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    it foreigners
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    find what do
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    youque it like as being a
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    foreigner you came like from different
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    culture different background different
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    perspective so that's why when you visit
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    a country or a culture for the first
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    time everything is like feeling so
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    unique and has their own touch so for me
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    I didn't found it that much unique story
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    for cuz it's I I I get used to it
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    especially I I had like traveled a lot
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    so it's um it's a it's like uh they they
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    have some touch with the Russian
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    architecture have you ever been to
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    Russia before uh I didn't but I have a
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    lot of Russian friends oh okay yeah so
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    uh I I write about Russian architecture
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    before so yeah how would you compare
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    maybe with other countries are there any
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    similarities between kazakhstan's
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    architecture with any other countries
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    you've been before Dave as a as from
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    your own experience maybe uh I I can't
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    think off the top of my head now any
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    ideas for example in you've been in
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    Istanbul yeah yeah in Istanbul there is
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    a area called jangar jangar is the the
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    architecture there it's like a Russian
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    Russian architect so it's too similar we
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    went to the park 20 28
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    Park exactly and there was a a house
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    with the wood it's the same architecture
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    in Jian that's why I I interesting
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    that's like interesting for I think
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    that's Museum nowadays like traditional
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    musical instruments of cast yeah and
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    it's also a center of Poli or something
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    yeah the one with the wood yeah
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    absolutely and the church is also very
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    beautiful yeah it is it is the church is
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    like pretty over right
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    1907 197 or something like that also
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    second largest wood Church in the world
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    right
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    iess I was impressed right yeah you guys
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    like from Singapore and then for us from
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    kazakhstani people it's it's considered
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    as a as you just said exotic country no
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    to visit to go because a lot of our
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    people they they usually prefer to go to
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    Dubai they go to Istanbul Turkey but
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    never go to Singapore Thailand or
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    Malaysia or like okay so what's your um
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    how different it is how different when
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    you came climate climate difference
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    climate difference it's like we don't
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    have uh uh the Four Seasons M yeah it's
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    always like you know sunny or rainy yeah
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    yeah and Singapore is filled with a lot
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    of tall buildings even like our um like
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    uh how say hdb concrete buildings that
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    is like super tall unlike here where by
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    the buildings are like a little bit
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    lower and they can see more Skies
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    correct yeah and our because our uh
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    Singapore right our land is like very
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    scar yeah so it's like just a very small
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    place compared to small country compared
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    to kistan
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    yeah when you have all those skyscrapers
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    in Singapore and I'm I'm aware that
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    Singapore is pretty modern right if you
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    ever been to aana uh our capital A lot
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    of people say that uh aana is uh you
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    know going with the with the same style
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    of Singapore
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    style well it's allowed to build tall
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    buildings there in aana due to because
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    in Alat it's earthquake risks and so on
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    so forth that's one of the reasons it's
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    not allowed uh but when you come to a
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    city like alate or maybe where the
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    buildings are not that tall uh how do
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    you feel yourself cuz I've heard a lot
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    of things that Alma has a lot of green
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    you know yeah correct a bit similar to
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    like Singapore where we have a lot of
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    trees around and but just that uh
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    because uh our land is yeah so all the
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    buildings are like pack packed to uh
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    like close to each other compared to
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    here whereby it's like more widespread
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    yeah one thing I um observe about am is
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    that um the road are very uh smooth and
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    it's like Singapore maintain yeah very
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    well maintained smooth and then you
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    never find like a like a crack hole hole
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    on the along the pavement so I think the
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    government did a good job in maintaining
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    the
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    to uh I've been to couple times and then
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    you know this narrow roads of a stumble
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    like it's crazy like transport it's not
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    a place for transport it's not it's not
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    a place for your personal uh cars or
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    something because it's really hard uh
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    here it's pretty white yes it's too huge
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    like that's true um could you uh share
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    about your EXP experience maybe in
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    Morocco I mean I've never been to
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    Morocco I've been to you're welcome
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    Algeria though you have to Country I've
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    seen a lot of photos and images of
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    Casablanca and then uh maresh and rabad
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    North T yeah could you share us your uh
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    views towards are there any similarities
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    between Kazakhstan and maybe Morocco
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    because Kazakhstan is kindly considered
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    as the Eastern country mhm like Eastern
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    mentality and stuff you know so then
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    well majority are Muslims also uh are
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    there any similarities between Morocco
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    and kakhan
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    Mos there
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    yes MH
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    if
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    amazing amazing I have one more question
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    uh I think the most important question
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    is about
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    cuisine food did you have a chance to
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    try our local food yes we did what did
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    you like the most what's the I love the
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    soups soup I've been eating a lot of
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    soups chicken noodle soup dumpling soup
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    love the soups and the the um kazak
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    restaurant we went to on the first day
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    was fantastic that was really good we
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    could really try all the the horse meal
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    and the the meats and the a variety of
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    kazak dishes that was a good
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    introduction that was amazing I mean uh
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    you know to be honest with you the kazak
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    cuisine itself I mean as a as a part of
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    a tourism destination have developed has
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    been developed only like for 5 years for
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    the last 5 years because a lot of
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    foreigners who used to come here they
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    were always complaining about there is
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    no authentic place to go and to try
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    kazak food but then uh in The Last 5
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    Years it's been developing like super
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    fast this uh destination I'm saying and
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    then a lot of kazak restaurants were
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    opened were released and then nowadays
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    tourists foreigners they don't have
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    problem tasting real kazak authentic
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    traditional food so that's
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    great okay mhm bread uh bread kazak
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    bread uh shash shash yes we it is it's
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    very tasty uh have you tried barmak
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    already the the meat and the horse meat
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    the horse meat you tried it wait I think
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    I I didn't yeah horse meat horse sausage
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    yeah we St the grill grill horse meat
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    too is that is that like considered a
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    regular thing in your country no of
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    course not no me in Singapore all right
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    I was trying yeah first time we are
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    trying it and then I was thinking like
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    to bring back to Singapore to let my
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    friends try because I saw there like can
  • 00:16:08
    HSE meat can one then I thought I can
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    bring back then I went Google and uh
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    Singapore is not all to bring back meat
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    that's interesting for
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    me I think you missed the chance like I
  • 00:16:20
    missed it and I don't want to try to be
  • 00:16:21
    honest cuz I'm still no wait I'm I'm too
  • 00:16:25
    into horses I I do horse riding so for
  • 00:16:29
    me to try something like this I'm like
  • 00:16:31
    no
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    for no it's not for me but yeah it's a
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    good thing and also they they they had
  • 00:16:38
    like horse milk milk we tried it you we
  • 00:16:41
    tried they say there like 1% alcohol you
  • 00:16:43
    don't need to kill the horse for oh my
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    God I I can't even like think about it
  • 00:16:51
    there was a lot of left put it in the
  • 00:16:53
    takeway box and at it later I Lov it
  • 00:16:56
    yeah it was great and they came with a
  • 00:16:57
    big plate of course oh my
  • 00:17:12
    God for me personal I I love horses I I
  • 00:17:17
    I worked eight years with horses and uh
  • 00:17:21
    we're in the same page
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    I have a question since you have a Bigg
  • 00:17:41
    experience traveling and visiting other
  • 00:17:43
    countries uh I've heard about that
  • 00:17:46
    nowadays horse mid is being exported to
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    some European countries in some medical
  • 00:17:51
    purposes have you heard about that no or
  • 00:17:54
    as as a person as maybe you you visited
  • 00:17:57
    Germany or any other countries and then
  • 00:17:59
    the horse milk as well have been
  • 00:18:01
    transported and exported to Germany and
  • 00:18:03
    some medical purposes like in order to
  • 00:18:06
    strengthen your immune system and kind
  • 00:18:08
    of things so if you ever heard about
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    that I mean
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    only
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    milk
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    SK it's kind of pretty it might be
  • 00:18:23
    similar but the donkey one not the horse
  • 00:18:25
    one for the skin care like they have
  • 00:18:28
    their only their own saon and oil and
  • 00:18:31
    stuff yeah and it's good for the skin by
  • 00:18:33
    the way wow it's very expensive and it's
  • 00:18:36
    expensive yeah cool that's cool yeah
  • 00:18:39
    pretty exotic though it's too known in
  • 00:18:41
    in in Turkey they uh they export from
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    the
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    Morocco good uh so uh in general like uh
  • 00:18:50
    what would you like to share about maybe
  • 00:18:52
    you know during any trip during any trip
  • 00:18:55
    there might be some uh difficulties and
  • 00:18:58
    anyway right related to the
  • 00:19:01
    transportation related to maybe people
  • 00:19:04
    right uh some people some foreigners say
  • 00:19:07
    that kazak people are pretty cold you
  • 00:19:10
    know like in mentality they don't smile
  • 00:19:12
    a lot they are like pretty reserved and
  • 00:19:16
    closed uh what do you think about it
  • 00:19:18
    have you had a chance to communicate
  • 00:19:20
    with some locals some count
  • 00:19:38
    he speak he don't speak English
  • 00:20:19
    yes
  • 00:20:33
    absolutely with uh with the multiple
  • 00:20:36
    languages right not only English but
  • 00:20:38
    then I also like once uh said about this
  • 00:20:42
    initiative to the alma visit and others
  • 00:20:45
    to improve uh languages right the scale
  • 00:20:48
    of languages that we have because a lot
  • 00:20:50
    of people suffer uh there's only like in
  • 00:20:53
    English and then I also try to tell them
  • 00:20:57
    that you probably have to uh put some
  • 00:21:00
    Chinese language
  • 00:21:02
    and comfortable especially at restaurant
  • 00:21:05
    I think menus like if let's say they
  • 00:21:07
    have English menu would exact but we use
  • 00:21:10
    Google Lens to
  • 00:21:12
    translate yeah true Dave and I I've come
  • 00:21:16
    in the wrong season I want to come back
  • 00:21:18
    with my skis for sure the skiing looks
  • 00:21:21
    amazing here and I think Prince Harry's
  • 00:21:22
    been skiing here right so it's known as
  • 00:21:25
    a very popular ski and when we saw the
  • 00:21:27
    slopes I was like oh there's no snow but
  • 00:21:29
    I would have loved to gone down the
  • 00:21:30
    slopes so you should definitely come
  • 00:21:32
    back during December or uh February
  • 00:21:36
    January that's that's the greatest
  • 00:21:37
    season here or skiing yeah a lot of
  • 00:21:39
    people come here and then it's
  • 00:21:41
    comparatively uh you know not that
  • 00:21:44
    expensive yeah it's pretty affordable
  • 00:21:46
    for forers to come
  • 00:21:49
    and uhhuh any other difficulties what
  • 00:21:52
    about people we're still touching upon
  • 00:21:54
    the people actually we had a very great
  • 00:21:56
    experience with uh
  • 00:22:00
    yeah because I think the reason why a
  • 00:22:01
    lot of people feel that Kazan people
  • 00:22:03
    might feel a little bit cold is because
  • 00:22:04
    of the language barrier but you know if
  • 00:22:07
    let say somebody can speak English right
  • 00:22:08
    like the the gentleman that we met in
  • 00:22:10
    one of the restaurants uh he actually
  • 00:22:12
    show us how to download the uh
  • 00:22:14
    Transportation app where I can book
  • 00:22:16
    taxis yeah and he also uh uh told us
  • 00:22:19
    like what are the National Cuisine to
  • 00:22:22
    order yeah and he even offered like oh
  • 00:22:24
    you know in say you guys are free right
  • 00:22:26
    you know uh just call me and then we can
  • 00:22:27
    go k amazing he offered a service to to
  • 00:22:31
    bring us around to show us a place and
  • 00:22:33
    she he even offered us a how he treat us
  • 00:22:35
    to a dish he bought a dish I was like
  • 00:22:38
    it's like first time meeting and then he
  • 00:22:39
    treat us to a dish I was like wow this
  • 00:22:41
    guy is really hospitable yeah they're
  • 00:22:45
    saying like a lot of people say if you
  • 00:22:47
    become a good friend with kazak people
  • 00:22:49
    with kazak person then that friendship
  • 00:22:51
    is going to last for a long time like
  • 00:22:53
    like it's a true friendship the same
  • 00:22:55
    thing people say about Russian people
  • 00:22:56
    like at the first glance that may be
  • 00:22:59
    kind of cold
  • 00:23:00
    uh thing uh attitude towards you but as
  • 00:23:04
    soon as you become close friend corre
  • 00:23:06
    that's last for for a long time so
  • 00:23:08
    that's true yeah thank you it's our
  • 00:23:11
    pleasure uh what about uh since you guys
  • 00:23:15
    been traveling throughout the world uh
  • 00:23:18
    you visited a lot of countries uh I'd
  • 00:23:20
    like to hear about some World Trends you
  • 00:23:23
    know maybe some things that Kazakhstan
  • 00:23:26
    should pay attention to in the world
  • 00:23:29
    like some things uh that we have to you
  • 00:23:32
    know get to ourselves and try to improve
  • 00:23:34
    it try to develop it would you like to
  • 00:23:36
    note I think the transportation because
  • 00:23:38
    in Singapore in uh Thailand and some in
  • 00:23:42
    Japan as well we have the trains or we
  • 00:23:44
    call in Singapore it's called MRT yeah
  • 00:23:46
    here it's I think it's only just like
  • 00:23:48
    buses as well as uh if you book uh we
  • 00:23:52
    taxi to the app so Tech uh so trains
  • 00:23:55
    right it's actually faster to get from
  • 00:23:57
    one place to another place it's not
  • 00:23:58
    accessible public
  • 00:24:00
    transportation Transportation also the
  • 00:24:04
    thing that we' talked about for the
  • 00:24:06
    language when you go to a restaurant or
  • 00:24:09
    something they only have the menu in
  • 00:24:11
    Russian or kazakistan so it's too
  • 00:24:14
    difficult for the tourist but yeah we
  • 00:24:16
    managed it thank God it was a GU with us
  • 00:24:20
    so yeah what do you think about uh in my
  • 00:24:22
    personal opinion language is a good
  • 00:24:24
    thing absolutely but sometimes I also
  • 00:24:27
    think that uh well I'm a polya myself
  • 00:24:29
    and I speak like multiple languages and
  • 00:24:32
    then you know sometimes when I visit
  • 00:24:34
    another country for example France well
  • 00:24:36
    I've been to France a couple of times
  • 00:24:37
    and then in order to dive deeper into
  • 00:24:39
    this mentality and culture sometimes
  • 00:24:42
    it's maybe even better that they don't
  • 00:24:45
    have English you know like to fill to
  • 00:24:48
    get into this atmosphere fully uh what
  • 00:24:51
    do you think about it like have you ever
  • 00:24:53
    thought about it maybe but how you going
  • 00:24:56
    to deal with with them corre the
  • 00:24:59
    understanding that's yeah if you don't
  • 00:25:03
    understand how you going to deal with
  • 00:25:05
    them I usually just learn a
  • 00:25:07
    language people just prefer learning a
  • 00:25:10
    local language especially with fresh
  • 00:25:11
    people like they're absolutely yeah
  • 00:25:14
    they're not easy to deal with
  • 00:25:29
    the real life of
  • 00:25:57
    kakan for
  • 00:26:39
    great so yeah absolutely I absolutely
  • 00:26:41
    agree that we have to improve our
  • 00:26:43
    language uh hear uh you know a lot of
  • 00:26:46
    people still say that Kazakhstan isn't
  • 00:26:49
    the most English friendly country like
  • 00:26:50
    English speaking friendly country uh but
  • 00:26:54
    we're working on it uh hopefully the
  • 00:26:56
    younger generation nowaday uh they are
  • 00:26:58
    trying to do their best trying to learn
  • 00:27:01
    the language and then welcoming others
  • 00:27:02
    and for and then as you might
  • 00:27:06
    notice uh Kazakhstan is becoming more
  • 00:27:09
    popular uh currently uh as a t tourism
  • 00:27:13
    destination for tourists due to you guys
  • 00:27:16
    like also uh talking and sharing about
  • 00:27:20
    Kazakhstan because I think in the last
  • 00:27:23
    year uh some uh very influential people
  • 00:27:27
    from Arab countries they have visited
  • 00:27:29
    Kazakhstan once and those videos were on
  • 00:27:33
    Tik Tok like you know like they they've
  • 00:27:35
    been going to Kai and the the the
  • 00:27:39
    Lakes View and then we had a the
  • 00:27:43
    majority of tourists nowadays they are
  • 00:27:45
    coming from these Gulf countries you
  • 00:27:47
    know like Qatar
  • 00:27:50
    Dubai U due to just some the power of
  • 00:27:54
    social media yeah the power of social
  • 00:27:55
    media when you went vant yeah you got
  • 00:27:59
    this that's why we rely on you
  • 00:28:03
    guys that's true that's true so uh what
  • 00:28:06
    are your expectations uh from further uh
  • 00:28:10
    do you have any plans to come back to
  • 00:28:11
    Kazakhstan maybe uh and when once you
  • 00:28:15
    come back what do you want to visit
  • 00:28:19
    anything else maybe some other
  • 00:28:21
    preferences in the
  • 00:28:24
    future for me absolutely it's going to
  • 00:28:26
    be the lake that we miss yesterday yeah
  • 00:28:30
    I saw the videos and the pictures of it
  • 00:28:32
    it was amazing why did you miss it by
  • 00:28:34
    the way was it any because it's too late
  • 00:28:37
    Sunset and it's dark it was to darker
  • 00:28:39
    well it's pretty far also to go exactly
  • 00:28:42
    correct yeah
  • 00:29:15
    Turkish Airlines
  • 00:29:28
    going absolutely yeah guys what do you
  • 00:29:31
    do you plan any plans to come back
  • 00:29:33
    actually have a suggestion because we
  • 00:29:35
    need direct flight from Singapore to
  • 00:29:38
    yeah that would be correct because we
  • 00:29:39
    took Transit flight over here we spend
  • 00:29:41
    about like 12 hours yeah so that we best
  • 00:29:44
    you know then that will encourage more
  • 00:29:46
    people come come over here absolutely
  • 00:29:48
    yeah that's true Dave you got some great
  • 00:29:52
    outdoors and I'd love to go hiking so do
  • 00:29:54
    some of the trails come back and check
  • 00:29:56
    out some of your beautiful nature that
  • 00:29:58
    I've only had a little tap has tasted of
  • 00:30:00
    so uh and uh yeah hopefully when the the
  • 00:30:03
    lighting is a bit more longer longer
  • 00:30:05
    days and then stay with the Nomad
  • 00:30:07
    communities in the Ys and get out into
  • 00:30:09
    the beautiful
  • 00:30:11
    country yeah and I also my suggestion
  • 00:30:14
    would be if you are going to come back
  • 00:30:17
    any soon or by any chance uh try to
  • 00:30:20
    visit the cultural uh Capital which is
  • 00:30:24
    turkistan which is located on the uh
  • 00:30:27
    South part of kazak
  • 00:30:28
    and you know it's been developing super
  • 00:30:30
    fast like Last 5 Years and then if you
  • 00:30:33
    go there you can like dive deeper into
  • 00:30:35
    this 19th century 18th century of kazak
  • 00:30:38
    you know well it's pretty uh it's called
  • 00:30:42
    like the the capital of
  • 00:30:44
    Turk uh
  • 00:30:47
    Nations yeah a lot of turkey people
  • 00:30:49
    Turkish people come there because
  • 00:30:52
    thewi uh one of the influential like
  • 00:30:55
    philosophers at that at the time buried
  • 00:30:58
    there and then a lot of people come
  • 00:31:00
    there they gather so they speak Turkish
  • 00:31:02
    as well uh there are a lot of Turkish
  • 00:31:03
    people I'm not sure if they speak
  • 00:31:05
    Turkish there's a lot of Kaz like speak
  • 00:31:08
    Turkish at least understand
  • 00:31:40
    yeah cic music cic industry is another
  • 00:31:44
    interesting thing that you can also try
  • 00:31:46
    yeah and of course our Capital aana uh
  • 00:31:49
    if you're going to have chance try to
  • 00:31:50
    visit aana you can definitely compare
  • 00:31:53
    the difference between aana and almati
  • 00:31:55
    and see this difference you it's more
  • 00:31:57
    called than Al it's colder but it's you
  • 00:32:00
    know it's cleaner it's newer it's more
  • 00:32:04
    modern and people are different there
  • 00:32:07
    you can see it at first glance you know
  • 00:32:10
    different in what sense in what sense um
  • 00:32:12
    because it's capital I mean as you were
  • 00:32:15
    came from Turkey I can say there was
  • 00:32:17
    people of anara and then people
  • 00:32:20
    of absolutely Al people of R and
  • 00:32:25
    Kaz it's more formal it's more
  • 00:32:28
    official it's more like business
  • 00:32:32
    suit a lot of events uh happen there too
  • 00:32:36
    so if you have chance try to visit the
  • 00:32:38
    city as well Co yeah nice I think
  • 00:32:40
    there's really a lot to explore here
  • 00:32:42
    absolutely still a lot of lands a lot of
  • 00:32:44
    places a lot of destinations to explore
  • 00:32:47
    uh and yeah if you're a lover of outdoor
  • 00:32:49
    tourism and hiking the land is super big
  • 00:32:53
    I mean wherever you go you can explore
  • 00:32:56
    and I'll be back
  • 00:32:58
    today we go to akow what can you tell us
  • 00:33:01
    about going to today yeah we're going to
  • 00:33:03
    act definitely the Caspian Sea and then
  • 00:33:06
    try the fish barmach fish fish fish B I
  • 00:33:10
    think it's in the list of your barmach
  • 00:33:12
    or barmach Bach so there is a Bish
  • 00:33:15
    barmach which is the
  • 00:33:17
    traditional and then fish Bach which is
  • 00:33:19
    adapted for the fish like it's basically
  • 00:33:22
    fish parach so what's parmak in Turkish
  • 00:33:25
    it means finger that's why I
  • 00:33:29
    yeah fish so then um it's uh a
  • 00:33:32
    traditional cuisine adapted for the
  • 00:33:36
    Western Kazakhstan
  • 00:33:38
    people they they have Caspian Sea and
  • 00:33:40
    then they have a lot of fish so fish
  • 00:33:43
    it's kind of fish fish so how many
  • 00:33:46
    cities you have here in kazakstan the
  • 00:33:48
    well we have uh in total I don't know in
  • 00:33:51
    total but I know the the the biggest
  • 00:33:54
    cities so like maybe six or seven seven
  • 00:33:58
    that you have to visit including sh
  • 00:34:01
    turkistan
  • 00:34:02
    alate aana and babai which is great
  • 00:34:06
    place yeah it's located in the northern
  • 00:34:08
    part of aana and it's like in a fairy
  • 00:34:12
    tale Fair especially during the winter
  • 00:34:15
    time W it's like
  • 00:34:16
    you enter this place and then you are
  • 00:34:19
    like in a fairy tale because I used to
  • 00:34:21
    shoot uh uh this traveling content there
  • 00:34:26
    also and then we visit this hotel which
  • 00:34:28
    is located right inside the city uh and
  • 00:34:32
    the surrounding is the trees and then
  • 00:34:35
    you know like great super winter okay
  • 00:34:38
    okay so it's a bit like Castle yeah it's
  • 00:34:40
    it looks like a
  • 00:34:42
    castle wow inter so it's beautiful
  • 00:34:44
    yeahor again I can't get over yeah I
  • 00:34:49
    can't get over the size of Kazakhstan
  • 00:34:51
    like we're doing a 3our domestic
  • 00:34:53
    flight like wow in Europe you pass 12
  • 00:34:56
    countries already
  • 00:34:58
    yeah right so uh thank you guys for
  • 00:35:01
    being with us great talking to you um a
  • 00:35:05
    lot of insights a lot of good things
  • 00:35:08
    you've been you taught uh you told us
  • 00:35:10
    here on on the podcast I think those who
  • 00:35:12
    are watching us are going to take those
  • 00:35:14
    things into account and try to develop
  • 00:35:16
    them try to work on them uh thank you
  • 00:35:18
    once again for being with us today thank
  • 00:35:20
    you so for having us have have a good
  • 00:35:22
    flight to enjoy your trips enjoy your
  • 00:35:27
    staying here Kazakhstan I hope
  • 00:35:28
    everything's going to be well I truly
  • 00:35:31
    hope so you so much
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