Adriatic Metals Operations Update webinar
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TLDRDurant la presentació d'Adriatic Metals PLC, es va proporcionar una actualització sobre el progrés del projecte de plata de Varish. Laura Tyler, la CEO interina, i Mike Horer, el CFO, van detallar els avanços en la producció minera, destacant la millora en els índexs de desenvolupament i producció. Es van discutir els desafiaments experimentats, incloent les variacions en la rutina esperada per al 2024, afectats per condicions del terra i la decisió del Tribunal Constitucional que va impactar el disseny de les instal·lacions d'emmagatzematge de residus. Tot i aquests desafiaments, es manté un fort suport en l'eficàcia de la planta processadora, amb augments en les taxes de recuperació, i s'espera que la producció comercial plena s'assoleixi cap al primer semestre de 2025. L'empresa continua optimitzant les operacions mineres i de processament amb un enfocament especial en la seguretat, després d'una lamentable fatalitat recent. Amb un balanç financer saludable, Adriatic Metals es posiciona per a un 2025 prosperant, amb plans per incrementar la seva capacitat i fer créixer la vida útil de la mina.
Takeaways
- 👥 Presentació duta a terme per Laura Tyler i Mike Horer.
- ⚙️ Progrés significatiu al projecte Varish, capacitat augmentant.
- 📊 Es preveu una producció de 750-800 mil tones el 2025.
- 🏗️ Impacte de la decisió del tribunal gestionat amb nous plans.
- 🔧 Recuperació plant és clarament superior, prop del 70%.
- 🚧 Seguretat millorada després de la fatalitat recent.
- ⌛ Producció comercial esperada per al primer trimestre del 2025.
- 💡 Estratègies per optimitzar flux de caixa i operacions.
- 🌍 Activisme ambiental i la gestió social abordats.
- 📈 Se cerca augmentar la capacitat i la vida de la mina.
Garis waktu
- 00:00:00 - 00:05:00
Durant la presentació, els participants seguiran en mode d'escolta, però poden enviar preguntes mitjançant la pestanya de Q&A. La Laura Tyler, CEO interina, i en Mike Horer, CFO, proporcionen una actualització del progrés del projecte de plata Varish. Tot això mentre indiquen que la qualitat del projecte Varish és alta i està dissenyada per produir metalls crítics amb un impacte sostenible més enllà dels 18 anys previstos de vida de la mina.
- 00:05:00 - 00:10:00
La Laura Tyler explica com el projecte Varish ha millorat els ritmes de desenvolupament després d'haver superat les difícils condicions del terreny, amb un ritme de 318 metres aconseguits el mes passat. També es discuteixen les millores en la perforació de control de qualitat i la implementació dels processos necessaris per estabilitzar el terreny i incrementar el rendiment segur de la mineria. Tot això ajuda a mantenir el pla d'acció per un augment sostingut de la producció mineradora i complir amb les guies establertes pel 2024.
- 00:10:00 - 00:15:00
S'aborden els temes de les operacions de la planta de procés, que ja superen el 70% de recuperacions mentre es continua amb la millora dels processos de producció. Els avenços en les operacions a 24/7 s'implementaran mentre s'incrementa la resistència de l'aigua a la planta i s'optimitzen els sistemes de gestió i producció.
- 00:15:00 - 00:20:00
En aquest apartat, es posen en relleu els reptes de la decisió del Tribunal Constitucional sobre la ubicació i l'impacte del disseny original de la fàbrica de pasta i altres instal·lacions. Tot i així, prenent mesures ràpides, s'habilitarà una nova opció pròxima per la planta de tailing que, si es compleixen els tràmits, estarà operativa a finals de novembre.
- 00:20:00 - 00:25:00
Es discuteix la transició de l'empresa des de la despesa de projecte cap als ingressos del producte i es destaca la fortalesa financera de Adriatic Metals al final d'agost. Amb un flux de caixa positiu en base acrual a l'agost, l'empresa està ben situada per mantenir i superar aquest canvi financer en el futur immediat.
- 00:25:00 - 00:30:00
Apareixen qüestions relacionades amb la gestió de la programació de la mina i possibles objectius pel material de gran qualitat, i es descriu com s'administrarà aquest procés sense necessitar reestructuració del programa de producció global, gràcies a la gestió dels estoc.
- 00:30:00 - 00:35:00
Es plantegen preocupacions sobre si la mina té el suport tècnic necessari per a complir amb els requisits futurs de producció i la capacitat desenvolupada per al 2025. La descàrrega de temors reals es confirma per la confiança en la producció futura, tot indicant una qualitat sòlida en el procés de control de grau.
- 00:35:00 - 00:40:00
Aclariments sobre les taxes actuals de desenvolupament minera que es van reduir en la primera meitat però ara es troben alineades amb les expectatives mitjançant el compromís de 300+ metres per mesos i altres ajustaments derivats de la modelització ajustada a data.
- 00:40:00 - 00:45:00
S'esmenta un intercanvi sobre la situació del mercat de concentrats, on els negocis fixos s'estan beneïnt per una situació de demanda fortament atapeïda que ajuda a solidificar les oportunitats financeres per a Adriatic Metals, prediccions per costos futures dôperació alineades amb augment global de costos i mantenint quartiles de costos avantatges abans el 2025.
- 00:45:00 - 00:50:00
S'abordaven preguntes sobre l'impacte del recent accident mortal en l'operativa diària i el que s'ha après de l'esdeveniment, incloent-hi implementacions noves per millorar la gestió dels contractistes. L'empresa es compromet a augmentar el control crític i la claredat de missatges de seguretat.
- 00:50:00 - 00:59:55
L'última part de la sessió destaca la confiança de l'equip de direcció en les seves decisions futures quant a M&A, marcades per una recerca activa d'oportunitats mentre se centra primerament en l'aixecament de càrrega i l'estabilitzar les línies de producció existents per al 2025.
Peta Pikiran
Video Tanya Jawab
Quin és l'objectiu principal de la presentació d'Adriatic Metals PLC?
Proporcionar una actualització sobre el progrés del projecte de plata de Varish i discutir la transició cap a la producció completa.
Qui va presentar la informació sobre Adriatic Metals?
Laura Tyler, CEO interina, i Mike Horer, CFO, van presentar la informació.
Quina és la previsió de volums de producció per a 2025?
S'espera que la producció sigui de 750.000 a 800.000 tones per any.
Hi ha alguna preocupació respecte al finançament del projecte?
El 2024, esperen ser en posició segura tant operativa com financera, preparats per a la transició a operar plenament.
Quin impacte va tenir la decisió del Tribunal Constitucional?
Va afectar el disseny i ubicació de l'emmagatzematge de residus i facilitats relacionades, però ja s'han dut a terme mesures per afrontar-ho.
Es van veure afectades les taxes de recuperació de la planta processadora?
Les taxes de recuperació han millorat a mesura que arriben al 70% cap al final del mes i a l'inici de Q4.
Com s'ha tractat la fatalitat recent en el lloc?
S'han implementat millores en la gestió de contractistes, missatges de seguretat i verificacions de controls crítics.
Quan es preveu assolir la producció comercial?
S'espera aconseguir les taxes de producció comercial per al final del primer trimestre de 2025.
Quin és el consens d'avaluació del flux de caixa per a l'any que ve?
S'espera un rendiment del 30% al 40% en el flux de caixa lliure per al proper any.
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- 00:00:08good morning ladies and gentlemen
- 00:00:09welcome to the Adriatic Metals PLC
- 00:00:11presentation throughout this recorded
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- 00:00:18time via the Q&A tab that's just
- 00:00:20situated on the right hand corner of
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- 00:00:25company may not be in a position to
- 00:00:27answer every question it receives during
- 00:00:28the meeting itself however thean can
- 00:00:30review all questions submitted today and
- 00:00:32we'll publish those responses where it
- 00:00:33it's appropriate to do so and before we
- 00:00:36begin we would just like to submit the
- 00:00:37following poll and if you could give
- 00:00:38that your kind attention I'm sure the
- 00:00:40company would be most grateful and I
- 00:00:42would now like to hand you over to the
- 00:00:43management team from Adriatic Metals
- 00:00:45Laura Michael good
- 00:00:47morning good morning good afternoon good
- 00:00:50evening thank you to everybody who is
- 00:00:52joining us today and has made the time
- 00:00:54to make this call um I'm Laura Tyler I'm
- 00:00:57the interim CEO of Adriatic medals and
- 00:01:00I'm joined today on the call by uh Mike
- 00:01:03horer who is our CFO our purpose today
- 00:01:06is to provide you all with an update on
- 00:01:08the progress that has been made at the
- 00:01:10varish silver project over the past few
- 00:01:13months this will be followed by a
- 00:01:15question and answer session that will
- 00:01:17include questions lodged ahead of this
- 00:01:19call as well as those asked during the
- 00:01:21course of this presentation um you've
- 00:01:24just been given a heads up on how to uh
- 00:01:25on how to do that this webinar is being
- 00:01:28recorded as we noted and we'll post the
- 00:01:30recording on our website after we are
- 00:01:33finished
- 00:01:34today um there is a disclaimer as you
- 00:01:36would expect I'm not going to go through
- 00:01:38this line by line um but I would urge
- 00:01:40you to all read it at your leisure once
- 00:01:42you have um finished this
- 00:01:46meeting despite the OB newness of myself
- 00:01:49um as CEO interim CEO and Mike as CFO
- 00:01:53we're part of an established team that
- 00:01:55will take varas through to commercial
- 00:01:57production and Beyond the team front of
- 00:02:00view today combines my Technical and
- 00:02:02asset leadership expertise in poly
- 00:02:04metallic and underground operations as
- 00:02:06well as Michael's financial and capital
- 00:02:08markets experience having joined
- 00:02:11Adriatic in 2022 as head of Business
- 00:02:14Development the information in this pack
- 00:02:17is presented based on the significant
- 00:02:19amount of work I and the team at
- 00:02:21Adriatic have completed over the last
- 00:02:23two months we've assessed the many
- 00:02:25bottlenecks or the challenges between
- 00:02:27the various project as it stands today
- 00:02:30and those that need to and have what we
- 00:02:31need to complete in order to be able to
- 00:02:33deliver the significant returns which
- 00:02:35you as patient shareholders um expect in
- 00:02:39my short term at Adriatic the quality of
- 00:02:41the people I have met the understanding
- 00:02:43I now have of the ruch or body the Mind
- 00:02:46design and extraction sequences
- 00:02:47including dealing with ground conditions
- 00:02:50the various um processing plant its
- 00:02:52commissioning and all of the other
- 00:02:53elements of this extraordinary project
- 00:02:55have been reviewed I've spent the time
- 00:02:58working through all of this and I seen
- 00:02:59no fatal
- 00:03:01flaws quite the opposite in fact Baris
- 00:03:04is built and we're working to simplify
- 00:03:06the value chain improve safety and
- 00:03:08deliver operating discipline that will
- 00:03:10see delivery of quality product to
- 00:03:12Market routinely and
- 00:03:14consistently Adriatic Metals will soon
- 00:03:17be a leading mining operation in Europe
- 00:03:19producing critical metals and based on
- 00:03:21what I've seen to date will be doing so
- 00:03:23for a long time potentially in excess of
- 00:03:26the 18-year mine life we currently have
- 00:03:31those whove been following Adriatic will
- 00:03:32be well aware of our simple strategy to
- 00:03:35maximize significant cash flows from
- 00:03:37varish which when in commercial
- 00:03:38production will remain firmly in the
- 00:03:40first quartile of the cost code globally
- 00:03:42for the silver mining
- 00:03:44industry our Capital allocation policy
- 00:03:46will be formally presented to the market
- 00:03:48soon after we have reached um commercial
- 00:03:51production yet we will clearly aim to
- 00:03:53maximize shareholder returns through a
- 00:03:55consistent deleveraging strategy
- 00:03:57balanced with the requirement to
- 00:03:59continue to invest in our assets to
- 00:04:01further grow barish's life of mine as
- 00:04:04well as generate returns to the benefit
- 00:04:06of all of Adriatic
- 00:04:08stakeholders the longer term strategy is
- 00:04:11to go beyond our existing asset
- 00:04:13portfolio but the short-term Mission
- 00:04:15remains to complete the exceptional
- 00:04:17progress made at barish deleverage the
- 00:04:20balance sheet and generate sustainable
- 00:04:22cash flows from the barish
- 00:04:24operation this is our transition stage
- 00:04:27we move from Project spend to revenue
- 00:04:29income it's exciting and we feel very
- 00:04:32positive about the future we have a
- 00:04:34couple of slides to take you through a
- 00:04:36few key points um and let me expand on
- 00:04:38the work um some of the work completed
- 00:04:40underway or planned and its impact on
- 00:04:43guidance and what I've seen for the next
- 00:04:45for over the last couple of
- 00:04:47months so we'll start with M production
- 00:04:50the varis project has built a has built
- 00:04:52a modern operation utilizing technology
- 00:04:55to minimize people exposure and maximize
- 00:04:57production it is a fully mechanized mine
- 00:05:00with a small footprint it's technically
- 00:05:02very similar if not almost identical to
- 00:05:05many underground stoping operations in
- 00:05:06advanced mining jurisdictions just as
- 00:05:09such as Australia Canada uh the US
- 00:05:12Etc development rates with the shift to
- 00:05:15owner to the shift to owner operator and
- 00:05:18an increase in available headings after
- 00:05:20we've accessed through the poor ground
- 00:05:21conditions have dramatically improved we
- 00:05:24are now consistently meeting forecast
- 00:05:27forecast rates of 300 meters per month
- 00:05:30last month achieving 318 meters which
- 00:05:33was a record for the
- 00:05:34team however the below budget
- 00:05:37performance in half one has impacted
- 00:05:39significantly on the schedule to bring
- 00:05:41sto or into production more on that
- 00:05:44later with our first Stope last in
- 00:05:47August and the second Stope commencing
- 00:05:49in September including the the use of
- 00:05:52electronic debts just last week which is
- 00:05:53a first for Bosnia and Herzegovina
- 00:05:55mining industry we're ramping up
- 00:05:57production and improving material
- 00:05:59fragmentation for the crushing andage
- 00:06:02teams the first Stope had a few issues
- 00:06:04pulling through the slot against the
- 00:06:05fault boundary of the or body but a
- 00:06:07tweak to the to the design has
- 00:06:09eliminated that issue for the second
- 00:06:11Stope the grade control drilling is
- 00:06:14underway at PACE and continues to more
- 00:06:16closely Define the or body shape and
- 00:06:18grade for design and scheduling while
- 00:06:21we've seen the expected variations
- 00:06:23within the geostatistical um uh
- 00:06:25variation the geological model remains
- 00:06:28strong and only increases confidence in
- 00:06:30future Year's production and
- 00:06:32forecasts there are good reconciliation
- 00:06:34processes being implemented and used
- 00:06:36routinely to manage blending and mil
- 00:06:38feed
- 00:06:40grades we did encounter poor ground
- 00:06:42conditions in the first half of the year
- 00:06:44and these have been resolved with the
- 00:06:46inative use of Weber injection foam that
- 00:06:48stabilized the ground to allow
- 00:06:50development to recommence on the 950
- 00:06:53level this opened up a whole sede of
- 00:06:55other of other um development areas and
- 00:06:58allowed us to to start to push the rates
- 00:07:00up the technical team have developed the
- 00:07:03necessary predictive ground support
- 00:07:05criteria now to maximize development
- 00:07:07rates while ensuring safe Mining and
- 00:07:10progress I'm really pleased to have seen
- 00:07:13the interactive relationship between
- 00:07:14both Technical and operational experts
- 00:07:17because this is necessary to underpin
- 00:07:19the strong performance we've seen to
- 00:07:21date the team are working well together
- 00:07:24to learn to challenge to implement
- 00:07:26changes quickly and safely it's really
- 00:07:28really good to see see that interaction
- 00:07:30happening and making a difference on the
- 00:07:32ground but today I have to reset the
- 00:07:35Mind tonnage guidance for 2024 based on
- 00:07:38our half one development performance and
- 00:07:40the delayed um access to the production
- 00:07:42sequence we're going to we're going to
- 00:07:44reset the guidance to 180,000 tons for
- 00:07:47the year I do however want to restate
- 00:07:50the 2025 guidance of 750 to 800,000 tons
- 00:07:55as the fundamental quality of the or
- 00:07:57body and grade profile remains strong
- 00:08:01the timing of extraction has changed
- 00:08:03with material previously expected in Q4
- 00:08:06now to be mined in q1
- 00:08:102025 so the mission for the mine is is
- 00:08:13to safely ramp up production to
- 00:08:15commercial rates by the end of
- 00:08:172024 and put in place the development
- 00:08:20needed for stable production in 2025 and
- 00:08:24Beyond the assumptions and schedules
- 00:08:26supporting these guidance figures have
- 00:08:28been reviewed compared with actuals or
- 00:08:30benchmarks and actions put in place to
- 00:08:32to improve where needed this is an
- 00:08:35achievable plan and I'm confident in the
- 00:08:38team to deliver the stated
- 00:08:41outcomes of course the performance of
- 00:08:43the process plant is key to delivering
- 00:08:45the value from the or to Market you can
- 00:08:48see on the slide the figures we've
- 00:08:50achieved with some excellent results
- 00:08:51over a relatively short time with good
- 00:08:54head grades continuing the feed to
- 00:08:56September we're improving recoveries as
- 00:08:58we head towards exceeding 70% um towards
- 00:09:01the end of the month and into the start
- 00:09:03of
- 00:09:04Q4 the process plant continues to
- 00:09:07campaign throughput and debottleneck the
- 00:09:10processes but as the tonnage increases
- 00:09:12from the mine especially with the
- 00:09:14addition of stoping or we're better able
- 00:09:16to manage the feed grade stability and
- 00:09:19Achieve improved recoveries this will
- 00:09:21continue as we ramp up to 247 operations
- 00:09:25as the V or feed volumes
- 00:09:28increase this run time is what we need
- 00:09:30to iron out the final bumps and continue
- 00:09:33to improve recoveries I will remind that
- 00:09:36we didn't actually run run a pilot plant
- 00:09:39so a lot of the work that we're doing
- 00:09:40now is is is sort of work you would do
- 00:09:43through a pilot plant and we're actually
- 00:09:45seeing some amazing results compared to
- 00:09:47what could have been
- 00:09:49possible current work underway in the
- 00:09:51plant includes Recruitment and training
- 00:09:52to run the 247 operations increasing
- 00:09:56water resilience through additional
- 00:09:57storage and development of an on-site we
- 00:10:00and implementation of DCs improvements
- 00:10:03all of which will be in place through
- 00:10:05the well apart from the development well
- 00:10:07but all the rest will be will be working
- 00:10:09on through quarter
- 00:10:104 the H Team or the glue that holds the
- 00:10:13value chain together they deliver the
- 00:10:16ore to the plant and they deliver the
- 00:10:17concentrate to the rail head they too
- 00:10:20are ramping up with transfers of ore and
- 00:10:22concentrate occurring safely and on time
- 00:10:26it's exciting to see that last week we
- 00:10:27had a first full train of 36 containers
- 00:10:30of concentrate head out of our rail head
- 00:10:32to the port for
- 00:10:34export so we're now putting in place the
- 00:10:36routines for production daily
- 00:10:39coordination meetings stockpile control
- 00:10:41for blending Excellence feedback loops
- 00:10:43to generate Improvement and cross
- 00:10:45Department support to enable smooth
- 00:10:47running of product from mind Market
- 00:10:49these are important routines and will be
- 00:10:52continuing to build strong operational
- 00:10:54management over the next six
- 00:10:57months as you all know we have had some
- 00:11:00recent headaches um you'll all be aware
- 00:11:02of the Constitutional Court decision
- 00:11:04that was handed down in July and had an
- 00:11:07impact on the original permitted designs
- 00:11:10areas of impact include long-term waste
- 00:11:12waste rock storage and location of the
- 00:11:14paste plant which was due for which is
- 00:11:16due for completion in 2025 but the most
- 00:11:19fundamental was the impact on the
- 00:11:20planned tailing storage facility where
- 00:11:23the location and design had to be
- 00:11:25Revisited the project team were on this
- 00:11:27quickly and identified the of vure pit
- 00:11:30as an option over the last couple of
- 00:11:32months we have completed the design
- 00:11:34through from preliminary through to
- 00:11:36final discuss the with the local
- 00:11:38communities and regulators and progress
- 00:11:41the different permits such as water
- 00:11:42environment Etc required for for us to
- 00:11:45get final construction permit All Is On
- 00:11:48Track and as noted on the slide we
- 00:11:51expect construction approval in October
- 00:11:53after the elections here in Bosnia
- 00:11:56preliminary works are underway including
- 00:11:58ground preparation
- 00:12:00access construction and contract Award
- 00:12:02with the project team mobilized to lead
- 00:12:04this work through to completion it's
- 00:12:06about a 2 kmet um trip from the from the
- 00:12:10plant up to where the the v vure um
- 00:12:13turnings facility will be and although
- 00:12:15it's difficult to see in the picture you
- 00:12:17can actually see the plant sits um um
- 00:12:20just in the uh in the in the background
- 00:12:23so it's it's visible from the far end of
- 00:12:25the vacher pit current tailings are
- 00:12:29being stored in the temporary tsf which
- 00:12:31is close to the plant and the capacity
- 00:12:33here is expected to last until q1 2025
- 00:12:37and the construction schedule for the
- 00:12:38Vater with and with the construction
- 00:12:40schedule for Vater tailings facility I
- 00:12:43don't expect for there to be any Gap
- 00:12:45entailing storage capacity so it will
- 00:12:48not have an impact on our production
- 00:12:52profile so
- 00:12:54finally and importantly I'd like to make
- 00:12:56a short comment on liquidity we've not
- 00:12:59included a slide here but it's in the
- 00:13:00accompanying release this is a time of
- 00:13:03transition for Adriatic medals as we
- 00:13:05switch from Project spend to product
- 00:13:07Revenue as our primary funding model at
- 00:13:10the end of August we had approximately
- 00:13:1435.6 million cash on hand we have a 25
- 00:13:17million undrawn facility from Orion with
- 00:13:20obviously with some conditions and we
- 00:13:22have stock pile value of about 20
- 00:13:24million in in whip plus remaining
- 00:13:27Revenue generation through Q4
- 00:13:29before we have our first debt repayment
- 00:13:31in December of $18
- 00:13:33million so I believe we are in a good
- 00:13:36position both operationally and
- 00:13:38financially as we transition to
- 00:13:40operations and enter our first full year
- 00:13:43of production in
- 00:13:4520125 it's an exciting time for all the
- 00:13:48people of Adriatic and they should all
- 00:13:50be really proud of what they've achieved
- 00:13:52there been some outstanding work
- 00:13:53completed over the last seven years and
- 00:13:56I think we're in great stead for 2025
- 00:13:58and
- 00:13:59Beyond and now I think it's good to we
- 00:14:02go to questions so we can see what
- 00:14:03you're interested in hearing more about
- 00:14:05and I'm going to hand over to Clara who
- 00:14:07will share the questions between myself
- 00:14:09and
- 00:14:11Mike perfect Laura and Michael if I may
- 00:14:13just jump back in there and thank you
- 00:14:14very much indeed uh for your
- 00:14:16presentation this morning um ladies and
- 00:14:18Gentlemen please do continue to submit
- 00:14:19your questions just by using the Q&A tab
- 00:14:21that's situated on the top right hand
- 00:14:23corner of your screen uh but just while
- 00:14:25the team take a few moments to review
- 00:14:26those questions that were submitted
- 00:14:28already I'll just i' like to remind you
- 00:14:29that a recording of this presentation
- 00:14:31along with the copy of the slides and
- 00:14:32the published Q&A can all be accessed
- 00:14:34through the platform um Laura Michael as
- 00:14:37you can see we have received a number of
- 00:14:38questions um throughout your
- 00:14:39presentation this morning and thank you
- 00:14:41to all of those on the call for taking
- 00:14:42the time to submit their questions um
- 00:14:45but clar at this point if I may hand
- 00:14:46over to you just to chair the Q&A with
- 00:14:47the team and if I pick up from you at
- 00:14:49the end that'll be great thank
- 00:14:52you thank you Jake the first question
- 00:14:55that's com in is in regards to mind
- 00:14:58scheduling and whether we the
- 00:15:01possibility is there to Target the
- 00:15:02higher grade material and whether
- 00:15:05modeling has been done to determine
- 00:15:07those stress changes and whether the
- 00:15:09ground stability is good enough to hold
- 00:15:12up such a
- 00:15:15change so so um thanks Clara um so uh in
- 00:15:20a previous um um set of information we
- 00:15:23actually stated that we would be looking
- 00:15:25to how did we manage the grade that was
- 00:15:28flowing through to the mill in order to
- 00:15:31manage the amount of tailings that were
- 00:15:32being produced so we referenced that we
- 00:15:34would be tackling we would be kind of
- 00:15:36focusing on high grade the high grade
- 00:15:39that the way that we've been managing
- 00:15:41that is through stockpile management so
- 00:15:43is around how do we um manage the grade
- 00:15:46itself that goes through the plant so
- 00:15:49focusing on the higher grade material
- 00:15:50rather than the lower grade material
- 00:15:52coming out of the mine what we have not
- 00:15:54done is reschedule the mine um
- 00:15:57production in order to high GR the or
- 00:15:59body so we haven't needed to carry out
- 00:16:02that um modeling that would that would
- 00:16:04have been required should we have taken
- 00:16:06that route so a great question um and
- 00:16:09something that obviously any mind that
- 00:16:11looks to highgrade its or body should be
- 00:16:14doing um but we haven't seen the need to
- 00:16:16do that at this time mostly because it's
- 00:16:18stock pound management that we've been
- 00:16:20using to produce the high push higher
- 00:16:22grade through the
- 00:16:23milk thanks
- 00:16:25Clara thanks the next question is
- 00:16:28whether we have enough support
- 00:16:30underground for the mining and whether
- 00:16:32we need to spend money and upgrade these
- 00:16:35support so the so the support is
- 00:16:38designed as we have a we have a detailed
- 00:16:40ground support management plan that's
- 00:16:42been put in place that identifies four
- 00:16:45different categories of ground but also
- 00:16:47identifies the different types of
- 00:16:49development that we're putting in place
- 00:16:51so where development is is required for
- 00:16:53the long term so that's major kind of
- 00:16:56infrastructure access ways we have the
- 00:16:58we have the long-term ground support
- 00:17:00that is required to make sure we have
- 00:17:02the stability that we need for the long
- 00:17:04term obviously where we have development
- 00:17:06that goes into stoping is only required
- 00:17:08for a um a six to 12 month period then
- 00:17:12we you know we we have a different um
- 00:17:14ground support regime however um all of
- 00:17:17those things are continually being
- 00:17:19monitored and made sure that we've got
- 00:17:20the right ground support for the right
- 00:17:22length of kind of like the length of
- 00:17:24time that we're going to need the the um
- 00:17:26the development um and make sure that we
- 00:17:28we um are are are not going to have
- 00:17:31instability um in the in the short term
- 00:17:34so what that means is you know longterm
- 00:17:36there will always be a requirement for
- 00:17:38rehab in certain areas but we don't see
- 00:17:40a requirement to go through and do we
- 00:17:42shouldn't see a requirement to go
- 00:17:44through in the near term to do a whole
- 00:17:46scale upgrade of
- 00:17:49support thanks next question is compared
- 00:17:52to the DFS um development meters were
- 00:17:55600 meters per month currently rates um
- 00:17:59half that number how will this impact
- 00:18:02future oil production Beyond
- 00:18:052025 and what measures are being done to
- 00:18:08increase development rates yeah great
- 00:18:11question so the the um so with the
- 00:18:14development originally the schedule for
- 00:18:16development to bring production in
- 00:18:19required a much higher rate than was
- 00:18:21achieved like a significantly higher
- 00:18:23rate than was being achieved so that
- 00:18:24development has been now basically
- 00:18:26achieved over a longer time period um
- 00:18:29what it does mean though is we need to
- 00:18:31be at 300 plus going forwards the rest
- 00:18:34of 24 and then into 25 and Beyond um in
- 00:18:38some instances where we're opening
- 00:18:40opening up um brand new um kind of
- 00:18:43access through the through the decline
- 00:18:45we might have you know slight
- 00:18:47variability from one month to the next
- 00:18:50um but that 600 meters is is no longer
- 00:18:53required that was the initial
- 00:18:54requirement that we needed in order to
- 00:18:56to start the the um the um stoping up
- 00:19:01we've now got stoping in place and we
- 00:19:03we're looking at the schedule we believe
- 00:19:05a 300 300 plus um is going to be what we
- 00:19:08require going forwards to 24 the rest of
- 00:19:1024 and into 25 um I don't have the fine
- 00:19:15detail in front of me um right now on on
- 00:19:17a kind of like the monthly rates as we
- 00:19:19go forwards but looking at an average of
- 00:19:21300 to 350 through 25 is is what we are
- 00:19:25expecting um to see and to require to to
- 00:19:28Main maintain
- 00:19:31production thanks Laura the next
- 00:19:33question is what payability is being
- 00:19:36received on the current low grade
- 00:19:38concentrate and when do we expect to
- 00:19:40reach the targeted grades as per the
- 00:19:44DFS yes so I can jump on that one if you
- 00:19:46want Laura um so actually some of the
- 00:19:49good news and we do reference it in the
- 00:19:51in the press release is that basically
- 00:19:52we've gotten DFS level payability so
- 00:19:55there hasn't been any additional kind of
- 00:19:58disc account or um penalties related to
- 00:20:01the early stage you know you would have
- 00:20:04seen in the Q2 you know we were kind of
- 00:20:06talking about uh you know 30 to 40% PB
- 00:20:10and Z end you know those grades have
- 00:20:12come up you know we're now actually
- 00:20:14pretty close to DFS so if you go back to
- 00:20:16the DFS grades there were 50 to 55% zinc
- 00:20:2045% lead life of mine average about
- 00:20:231,800 gr per ton silver we're basically
- 00:20:26a little bit lower on the zinc right now
- 00:20:28right in line on the lead and actually
- 00:20:31higher on the silver so even with these
- 00:20:33initial you know kind of trickier
- 00:20:36concentrates that we've produced as the
- 00:20:39mail is just kind of getting ramped up
- 00:20:40we've actually been getting like 100%
- 00:20:42normal payability so no real difference
- 00:20:45from the DFS um and I think that's quite
- 00:20:48encouraging because again it's it's it's
- 00:20:50quite common for you know poly metallic
- 00:20:52processing plants they take a little bit
- 00:20:54of time to get going and concentrate
- 00:20:56quality is not always exactly there but
- 00:20:59basically we're getting what we did
- 00:21:00expect um good quality concentrates full
- 00:21:03payability we've actually been selling a
- 00:21:05little bit more into China than we
- 00:21:08expected because the grades have been
- 00:21:09actually quite positive and the
- 00:21:11concentrate Market is incredibly tight
- 00:21:13right now so that's one area that I
- 00:21:14think uh has really been a bright spot
- 00:21:16for us in the early
- 00:21:21days thanks Mike another one um on costs
- 00:21:25um questions are how a cost track
- 00:21:28relative to the
- 00:21:29DFS and you know there's some
- 00:21:32assumptions that operating costs will be
- 00:21:34approximately 20% higher what are your
- 00:21:37thoughts on those
- 00:21:38assumptions yeah so we obviously haven't
- 00:21:41guided on Opex yet uh and we only plan
- 00:21:44to do that after we reach commercial
- 00:21:47production which is you know pretty
- 00:21:49typical for sort of a single asset ramp
- 00:21:51up um but I think you know people can
- 00:21:54infer from the fact that you know the
- 00:21:57capex came in about you know 15% is
- 00:22:00higher than the 2021 DFS um inflation in
- 00:22:04Bosnia also peaked I think it was about
- 00:22:07you know 15 to 17% as well in late 2022
- 00:22:11so I think yeah if people want to you
- 00:22:13know guess at 20 plus that's probably
- 00:22:15the right sort of order of magnitude for
- 00:22:18now uh again we will give proper sort of
- 00:22:21cost guidance after we reach commercial
- 00:22:23production but I think you know one of
- 00:22:25the things to step back and and keep in
- 00:22:27mind is that you know the DFS showed
- 00:22:29that this was going to be a first
- 00:22:31quartile cost you know producer even if
- 00:22:34our Opex does come in a little bit
- 00:22:36higher than the DFS if you look across
- 00:22:39the mining industry the past four or
- 00:22:41five years everybody's had quite a lot
- 00:22:43of Opex inflation so we would expect to
- 00:22:46still be in the first quartile which at
- 00:22:48the end of the day is is all that kind
- 00:22:49of really matters um and that's really
- 00:22:52the advantage of of operating in a place
- 00:22:53like Bosnia like I've worked in the past
- 00:22:56in you know Canada Laura's worked in
- 00:22:58austr Australia um a lot higher cost
- 00:23:00jurisdictions but you know the beauty of
- 00:23:03Bosnia and the Balkans is you've got
- 00:23:05very cheap power you know 7 cents 8
- 00:23:08cents a kilowatt hour which we're
- 00:23:09connected to in the grid not raing not
- 00:23:12raing on uh you know diesel gen sets um
- 00:23:15good infrastructure paved roads rail you
- 00:23:18know we're in the middle of Europe and
- 00:23:19you know low tax rate at 10% so yeah
- 00:23:23we're not we're going to be higher than
- 00:23:25DFS Opex um but it's still going to be
- 00:23:27quite a high margin
- 00:23:31operation thanks Mike another um
- 00:23:34question is what's your monthly burn
- 00:23:37rate
- 00:23:40currently yeah so um yeah I mean you you
- 00:23:44kind of be able to calculate that from
- 00:23:46the quarterlies and we've just given
- 00:23:48this cash figure of
- 00:23:4935.6 at the end of August so roughly
- 00:23:52speaking from January the average is 10
- 00:23:55to 11 million a month um and that
- 00:23:57includes UD everything so that's that's
- 00:24:00site cost that's capex that's GNA
- 00:24:04corporate even expiration um so you know
- 00:24:07we spent Circa seven eight million you
- 00:24:10know year to date on expiration so call
- 00:24:12it a million a month um you know capex
- 00:24:15is winding down uh in a big way but then
- 00:24:19obviously your variable operating costs
- 00:24:21like processing and Hol are starting to
- 00:24:23come up a little bit so they're kind of
- 00:24:24evening out and I'd say that yeah like
- 00:24:27you know 10 million a month is is
- 00:24:30basically a steady state burn rate for
- 00:24:32us at the moment uh we do think that by
- 00:24:3525 that will go down even a little bit
- 00:24:37lower just in terms of you know probably
- 00:24:40a little bit less expiration spend and
- 00:24:42and less capex you know as well um but
- 00:24:45that's something to kind of use for now
- 00:24:46until we give that formal cost guidance
- 00:24:49uh after we reach commercial
- 00:24:53production uh do you believe you will um
- 00:24:55need to draw down the Orion facility
- 00:25:01yeah look I I think you know at this
- 00:25:03point in time um you know given the cash
- 00:25:05balance it really depends on how the
- 00:25:07next couple of weeks and months go it's
- 00:25:09it's always a tricky one with you know
- 00:25:11sort of projects like this where uh
- 00:25:14working capital is is always a bit of a
- 00:25:16a lag so we've had some extremely good
- 00:25:19months on the mining side um you know
- 00:25:22record in in August 25,000 tons we've
- 00:25:25already exceeded that already in
- 00:25:26September so there's quite a lot of
- 00:25:28material that's going to be processed
- 00:25:30and going to be sold and that's great um
- 00:25:32but people can see I we've put the
- 00:25:35figure for a stockpile in there about
- 00:25:3736,000 tons if you do the rough math we
- 00:25:41haven't included the figure but that's
- 00:25:43basically 20 million of Revenue sitting
- 00:25:45on the or stock pile that takes a little
- 00:25:47bit of time to work its way through so
- 00:25:49it really depends on how quickly we kind
- 00:25:52of get that Revenue in in um but
- 00:25:55generally speaking with the cash we have
- 00:25:56on hand that's stockpile the revenue for
- 00:25:59the rest of the year we feel quite
- 00:26:01confident well we feel more confident um
- 00:26:03to make the the main debt repayment at
- 00:26:06the end of this year so that's the 18
- 00:26:07million us roughly to irion we've got
- 00:26:11more than enough Headroom for that um so
- 00:26:13you know if we are drawing on the 25
- 00:26:15it's purely just like a timing
- 00:26:17sequencing thing to get through you know
- 00:26:20you're pretty typical kind of working
- 00:26:22capital um you know inflection point but
- 00:26:26keep in mind that's only a six-month
- 00:26:27facility so obviously if we're taking it
- 00:26:29it means that we feel good that we only
- 00:26:31really need it for a very short period
- 00:26:33of time
- 00:26:35so thank you uh we have obviously
- 00:26:38referenced um changes to production
- 00:26:41guidance in 2024 however there's been no
- 00:26:44reference to
- 00:26:45grades uh what should we expect on on
- 00:26:48that side what's what was previously
- 00:26:50published in
- 00:26:53January you want to say that one Laura
- 00:26:56yeah so so I think the you know um what
- 00:26:59we I mean obviously the guidance was was
- 00:27:01based on the the tonnage and that's the
- 00:27:03change that we've made um the grades
- 00:27:05that we're seeing at the moment coming
- 00:27:06through um are the grades we're kind of
- 00:27:09really expecting to see as we go
- 00:27:11forwards they will kind of hopefully
- 00:27:13kind of like level out towards um the
- 00:27:16the the average grade that we're
- 00:27:17expecting for 24 and 25 um which has
- 00:27:21been previously provided so don't see
- 00:27:23any any drastic shift in what we've
- 00:27:26indicated um the grade control drilling
- 00:27:29that we're doing as a routine um is
- 00:27:31confirming the geological model um
- 00:27:34obviously there's there's a little bit
- 00:27:35of kind of give and take around the
- 00:27:37edges of the your body that you expect
- 00:27:38to see just based on the kind of the
- 00:27:41accuracy of the geostatistical model and
- 00:27:43and when you put those additional um
- 00:27:45grade control holes in you start to get
- 00:27:47that kind of fine nuancing of the of
- 00:27:49where the your body is and isn't but
- 00:27:51we're seeing it basically overall
- 00:27:53confirming the quality of the your body
- 00:27:55um and its distribution so um we haven't
- 00:27:58guided on on grades specifically but
- 00:28:01they will continue within the the vein
- 00:28:03that we're seeing uh that we're
- 00:28:05currently seeing so um yeah it's it's
- 00:28:09it's probably broadly aligned with what
- 00:28:11we were expecting in q1 from a grade
- 00:28:13perspective um sorry in Q4 on a grade
- 00:28:16perspective
- 00:28:18anyway uh we've had another question
- 00:28:21regarding the term commercial production
- 00:28:24and when will this be met
- 00:28:28and does this have an impact on Project
- 00:28:33financing well I'll take the first bit
- 00:28:35and then might can take the second half
- 00:28:37of that one so so the um you know as
- 00:28:40we're ramping up in Q4 we are expecting
- 00:28:44to be able to um basically get to the
- 00:28:47rates that we require um for commercial
- 00:28:50production um which is um you know
- 00:28:53percentage of the of the total of kind
- 00:28:56of of the of the the full um 800,000 per
- 00:28:59year rate um but but we're expecting to
- 00:29:02to see quarter one um as being the first
- 00:29:05time when we will actually be able to
- 00:29:07run at that rate for long periods of
- 00:29:09time I.E months at a time so we are um
- 00:29:12you know continuing to to ramp up
- 00:29:14through quarter 4 so we won't see
- 00:29:16quarter 4 as a full production rate um
- 00:29:18or the full kind of commercial
- 00:29:19production rate but we will intending to
- 00:29:22to aim to bring that rate through in
- 00:29:24quarter one and then quarter two three
- 00:29:27and four
- 00:29:28um will be then running the the intent
- 00:29:32is they will then be running at um at
- 00:29:34800,000 tons per anom rate um through
- 00:29:37those the second half of of
- 00:29:4025 Mike anything to add yeah and on the
- 00:29:43other points um commercial production is
- 00:29:46is kind of a key point for a few things
- 00:29:49as for us as a company one with our debt
- 00:29:52financing with Orion and and also just
- 00:29:54other things like insurance it's
- 00:29:55obviously a pretty typical thing that uh
- 00:29:58counterparties look for you to ramp up
- 00:30:00uh we do expect to hit those metrics
- 00:30:03that we need specifically for those kind
- 00:30:05of items um by the end of the year so so
- 00:30:09let's say you know in December the end
- 00:30:10of Q4 because it's over sort of a
- 00:30:12shorter time frame that we need to be
- 00:30:14able to reach those levels to take those
- 00:30:17boxes compared to what's Laura is
- 00:30:19talking about is really like a whole
- 00:30:20quarter uh we don't need that to reach
- 00:30:23what you would almost call statutory
- 00:30:25commercial production so we do expect
- 00:30:27that to Happ happen by the end of this
- 00:30:31year thank you both we've had a number
- 00:30:33of questions on the vivat tailing
- 00:30:36storage
- 00:30:37facility what are the kind of what's the
- 00:30:40critical path and what are the sort of
- 00:30:42key engineering milestones for that
- 00:30:44completion and also regarding the road
- 00:30:49from um the VPP to the v v tailing
- 00:30:53facility will this require the use of
- 00:30:55public roads um and will that have to go
- 00:30:58through neighboring
- 00:31:01Villages thanks good good questions on
- 00:31:04the on the on the vouer tailings
- 00:31:05facility so um the key Milestones have
- 00:31:09always been permitting um we have the um
- 00:31:12we put in place all of the contracts um
- 00:31:14and so so that has always been the key
- 00:31:16Milestone that we've that we've needed
- 00:31:18to to deal with um that is in progress
- 00:31:21as I said um in the the kind of like the
- 00:31:24overview we've got um we've been talking
- 00:31:27with the very Rel itive Regulators we
- 00:31:29have all the paperwork um in front of
- 00:31:31the ministers for environment and water
- 00:31:35Regulators that need to provide
- 00:31:37paperwork their sign off before it goes
- 00:31:39to the um Ministry of mining for a
- 00:31:42formal construction approval and we
- 00:31:45expect that construction approval in in
- 00:31:48October and that's for the main um the
- 00:31:51main construction piece however we own
- 00:31:53the land we have to own the surface
- 00:31:55rights to the to Via V tailing facility
- 00:31:58area so we are able to start to do some
- 00:32:01of the clearance and and and preparation
- 00:32:04work ahead of that that includes um that
- 00:32:07includes preparation of the access road
- 00:32:09the access road will go from the plant
- 00:32:12go up the bottom of the valley so when
- 00:32:14you look at that picture that's on the
- 00:32:15on the piece you'll see there's a valley
- 00:32:18kind of down the bottom that's where the
- 00:32:20access road will come up so we won't be
- 00:32:22going through the villages around the
- 00:32:24outside um of of you know um or kind of
- 00:32:27like the that are accessed on the road
- 00:32:30around the outside of the old pit um and
- 00:32:33we'll be move we'll be coming through
- 00:32:35the through the through the main um
- 00:32:37through the bottom of the valley the the
- 00:32:38work that we have to do there is we are
- 00:32:40looking to improve the road through
- 00:32:42there it's an old uh old um you know
- 00:32:45Access Road um so that needs to be
- 00:32:47improved so there's some work going on
- 00:32:50there we've had approvals to start that
- 00:32:52um cleanup and construction work and so
- 00:32:54that is um that is underway even as we
- 00:32:57speak
- 00:32:58um all of the land access um ownership
- 00:33:02is is is resolved and and is in um
- 00:33:06adriatic's um ownership so so that means
- 00:33:10then that we um that we have full access
- 00:33:12to that road and to the and to the to
- 00:33:15the pit so it's looking good the the
- 00:33:18main um the main Milestone I guess to is
- 00:33:21getting that you know getting that final
- 00:33:23stamp in October after the elections um
- 00:33:26and then you know the main engineering
- 00:33:28Milestones um are kind of basically
- 00:33:31getting the the ground prepped the
- 00:33:33liners put in um and then we can start
- 00:33:35placing placing material and that is
- 00:33:38envisaged to be completed by the um end
- 00:33:41of
- 00:33:43November um another question on the
- 00:33:46Vater tailing storage facility what life
- 00:33:50how long is that facility available and
- 00:33:52how long for and will this be dry stack
- 00:33:55and then on the original tailing storage
- 00:33:58facility do you believe that that will
- 00:34:00potentially be viable in the
- 00:34:02future um so the so the the V tailings
- 00:34:06facility that we're constructing will be
- 00:34:07done like any other tailings facility is
- 00:34:09done in phases of work um so we will you
- 00:34:12know complete the first phase of work
- 00:34:14which will take us for through for a
- 00:34:15number of years and then the second
- 00:34:17phase so the the total amount of
- 00:34:19capacity we have in there will give us
- 00:34:21um enough tailing storage for about 10
- 00:34:24years of production um so give or take
- 00:34:28you know a few months kind of thing
- 00:34:30depending on the grades and that that we
- 00:34:32have coming through so so so we're
- 00:34:34expecting this to be a long-term
- 00:34:36solution for us um it will be in in
- 00:34:39operation for for a significant period
- 00:34:42of time um and and will become a part of
- 00:34:44our kind of usual operations um the the
- 00:34:49previous um tailings facility um
- 00:34:52location we continue to have that we'll
- 00:34:55continue to work through um put that for
- 00:34:58potentially for down the track for a
- 00:35:00longer term solution um for tailings
- 00:35:03because we obviously we've got a a um
- 00:35:05kind of a multi multiple Decades of of
- 00:35:08production coming through so so that
- 00:35:10would be something that we would
- 00:35:11consider for the future but this is very
- 00:35:13typical for any operation no operation
- 00:35:15has its tailing well very few have their
- 00:35:17tailing facilities all designed and
- 00:35:19planned out through to the end of of
- 00:35:21final operation and um so so this is
- 00:35:24fairly normal that you know we will
- 00:35:26exhaust um the the the current tailings
- 00:35:28the bach tailings facility that we're
- 00:35:30constructing now over the next 10 to 12
- 00:35:32years and and at the end of that we will
- 00:35:35have put in place the options for the
- 00:35:37next um phase of tailings deposition
- 00:35:39whether that is the um existing or the
- 00:35:42old the previously permitted um or
- 00:35:45planned site or whether it is an
- 00:35:46alternative one and we'll work with
- 00:35:48Regulators to make sure that we have
- 00:35:50everything in place to um to have that
- 00:35:52um in place in time to replace the new
- 00:35:56vat tailing facility that we're
- 00:35:59constructing can you provide some
- 00:36:01guidance on the expected cost of the V
- 00:36:03Ved tailings
- 00:36:06facility so um a bit early there and and
- 00:36:10again it's something that we'll we'll
- 00:36:11probably give a good update on in terms
- 00:36:13of once we reach commercial production
- 00:36:14so both Opex and capex life of mine um
- 00:36:18but roughly speaking if you look well I
- 00:36:20guess we haven't published details what
- 00:36:21we spent on the first one but it's it's
- 00:36:23it's not Material so kind of moving from
- 00:36:26right beside the plant to 2 kilometers
- 00:36:28away it's not going to be an order of
- 00:36:30magnitude much higher so it's again it's
- 00:36:32something that we can give a proper
- 00:36:34update on uh kind of for the life of
- 00:36:36mind but to get us to initial deposition
- 00:36:40by the end of this year and supporting
- 00:36:432025 production you're talking single
- 00:36:45digit Millions like a couple you know
- 00:36:47it's it's really not something that's
- 00:36:49going to affect the balance sheet or
- 00:36:51really change uh you know what we do
- 00:36:53moving forward compared to the original
- 00:36:55site so I think that's the best way to
- 00:36:57think of it there's we're not going to
- 00:36:58have any major uptick because of this um
- 00:37:01change and just to add to that the the
- 00:37:04team on site have done some excellent
- 00:37:06negotiations with the contractors that
- 00:37:08would be managing this so we are seeing
- 00:37:11some good long-term rates um better than
- 00:37:14they were before getting locked into to
- 00:37:16some of this this um contract work so
- 00:37:19which is a real positive and I did miss
- 00:37:21the question asked if we were still dry
- 00:37:23stacking and yes we are we will continue
- 00:37:25to dry stack it is the Way Forward um as
- 00:37:28we make sure that all of our tailings
- 00:37:30facilities will meet uh the gem or
- 00:37:33Global the global um M tailings
- 00:37:36management standard that is now in
- 00:37:39place thank you could you provide an
- 00:37:42update on the past
- 00:37:47plant sure so the past plant was due to
- 00:37:50be was due for construction to be
- 00:37:53completed in in early
- 00:37:552025 at this point the the the the work
- 00:37:59based on the um based on the
- 00:38:01Constitutional Court's decision the work
- 00:38:03on the pace plant has been paused U
- 00:38:06while we work through kind of legal
- 00:38:08options but at the same time we're
- 00:38:09looking at alternative um locations we
- 00:38:12do have alternative locations that that
- 00:38:14we can access um to put the pace plant
- 00:38:17in instead which won't be a huge um kind
- 00:38:20of move to to to an alternate location
- 00:38:23so so we're working through those two
- 00:38:26options we always had planned to use um
- 00:38:29calf or cemented aggregate fill in our
- 00:38:32stopes so um the processes are in place
- 00:38:35to do that um we you know we'll use
- 00:38:37obviously some of our own some of our
- 00:38:38waste rock as as aggregate as well as
- 00:38:41import um some quality aggregate we've
- 00:38:43got all those contracts in place that
- 00:38:45work is already is already commencing
- 00:38:47for the first Stope this was always in
- 00:38:49the plan we just now have to extend the
- 00:38:52calf placement for um an additional few
- 00:38:54months um but we don't see it as being
- 00:38:57long-term solution um we will move to
- 00:38:59having uh pce plant as the long-term
- 00:39:02solution F filling um all of the
- 00:39:06Stokes uh there's another question
- 00:39:08regarding uh local elections and these
- 00:39:10are happening uh in October does this
- 00:39:13impact your ability on receiving permits
- 00:39:16that are
- 00:39:18required uh not really other than
- 00:39:20there's just a little bit of um you know
- 00:39:22people waiting for elections to complete
- 00:39:25um and people you know obviously people
- 00:39:27who are up for election or um parts of
- 00:39:30the Departments that are up for election
- 00:39:31being a we bit distracted by um by um
- 00:39:35you know having to go out and and and
- 00:39:37attend the various rallies and whatever
- 00:39:39but overall we are getting very positive
- 00:39:41commentary um and we and a lot of stuff
- 00:39:44is still progressing ahead of the
- 00:39:45election and then we just expect to see
- 00:39:48um the um the final stamp on the on the
- 00:39:51construction to to occur just post the
- 00:39:54election in um in mid October
- 00:39:58so no real big impact on
- 00:40:01that what have been the learnings from
- 00:40:03the recent fatality on site and what
- 00:40:06measures have been taken to avoid such
- 00:40:08occurrences again yeah look the fatality
- 00:40:11was something that should never have
- 00:40:13happened um you know there it was it had
- 00:40:16a huge impact on on our on our the
- 00:40:19people of our operations it was a local
- 00:40:23um
- 00:40:24subcontractor um who left behind a wife
- 00:40:26and three young children so you know um
- 00:40:29we've made sure that we were um that
- 00:40:32we've looked after that the family has
- 00:40:33been looked after by by the contractor
- 00:40:36and and and ourselves um it was a big
- 00:40:39learning um for for the company um you
- 00:40:42know we've prided ourselves on having
- 00:40:44you know some really good um uh kind of
- 00:40:48total recordable injury frequency
- 00:40:50figures um and and how you know how we
- 00:40:54manage and think about critical controls
- 00:40:56but obviously
- 00:40:57things weren't as going as well as we
- 00:41:01thought they were and and and with all
- 00:41:03these things you can never rest with
- 00:41:05safety and this fatality has really
- 00:41:07brought it home how we need to improve
- 00:41:09our contractor management including site
- 00:41:12access requirements um for everybody
- 00:41:15that accesses our site um Clarity of
- 00:41:18safety messaging as we move through the
- 00:41:20transition from project um Project work
- 00:41:23into baau and and and and regular kind
- 00:41:26of operational work and how we improve
- 00:41:29our um critical control management um
- 00:41:32and those and and those verifications
- 00:41:34and processes so we have three work
- 00:41:37streams underway that are tackling um
- 00:41:39those those pieces implementation of
- 00:41:42improved um contractor management
- 00:41:44improved safety messaging as we
- 00:41:46transition so that everyone has real
- 00:41:48Clarity on what is the requirements to
- 00:41:50enter our site um and then that critical
- 00:41:53control management which flows through
- 00:41:54from Senior Management right the way
- 00:41:56through to um right the way through to
- 00:41:58the shop floor so working on those I
- 00:42:02there should never we should never
- 00:42:04accept any fatality in any operation
- 00:42:07globally um and so we um are incredibly
- 00:42:11saddened by this um and and we will get
- 00:42:17better can you please advise uh the sort
- 00:42:20of status and expected timings for
- 00:42:22permanent CEO and CFO appointments and
- 00:42:26do you feel but at the operational level
- 00:42:29you have all the team in place that's
- 00:42:33required so I'll start on the
- 00:42:35operational level team um first of all
- 00:42:37I've been really really impressed um
- 00:42:40with the team that that is in place um
- 00:42:43you know the the when I look at the
- 00:42:46Quality from a technical and operational
- 00:42:49skill set right the way through from the
- 00:42:51mine through to the tech services
- 00:42:53through to the operation superintendence
- 00:42:56the process plan
- 00:42:57um manager is has significant experience
- 00:43:02in poly metallics particularly in lead
- 00:43:04zinc which has its own peculiarities um
- 00:43:07and and so you see that experience
- 00:43:09flowing through in the way that we we
- 00:43:11are pushing and challenging um the the
- 00:43:14different the different issues that we
- 00:43:16have the hallig and Fleet U I've got
- 00:43:19some excellent depth of of expertise um
- 00:43:22so not only when the when they kind of
- 00:43:24like the the manager for hen Fleet
- 00:43:26stepped out for a vacation his 2 I see
- 00:43:28you could have almost you know you
- 00:43:30wouldn't even notice there was someone
- 00:43:32had gone on leave so there's some real
- 00:43:34depth that we're seeing not only um
- 00:43:36using expats but also some real depth
- 00:43:39that we see um with um some of the
- 00:43:41national uh recruits that we also have
- 00:43:44and that um making sure that we're
- 00:43:46bringing through and gaining the
- 00:43:47experience in the mining and the
- 00:43:49processing areas so that we have some
- 00:43:51long-term um opportunities to bring
- 00:43:53through some real talent um it's it's
- 00:43:56really good to see the people that have
- 00:43:58been employed here the passion that they
- 00:44:00have for wanting to make a difference
- 00:44:01and the real focus and being prepared to
- 00:44:03be challenged um on kind of like the
- 00:44:06status quo that we see throughout the
- 00:44:09operations so very excited by by that um
- 00:44:13on the long-term CEO um position um so
- 00:44:17Adriatic has has commenced u a search
- 00:44:20for a long-term permanent CEO through an
- 00:44:22independent search firm um so um we as a
- 00:44:27board which I was sitting on at the time
- 00:44:30um we recommended that the we we made
- 00:44:32sure that it was a transparent process
- 00:44:34that looked for the that looked for the
- 00:44:36right CEO for the long term um and at
- 00:44:39that time as well that CEO will then um
- 00:44:42search for um the permanent um CFO going
- 00:44:46forwards um we'll see if Mike wants to
- 00:44:48put his hand up for it um when when we
- 00:44:51when we start the search and in the same
- 00:44:53vein um you know the board has asked me
- 00:44:55if I would like to put my hand up for it
- 00:44:57um I'm just working through at the
- 00:44:59moment making sure that we've got the
- 00:45:00ramp up sorted um and I will work out
- 00:45:03whether I'm going to make myself
- 00:45:05available to be included in the
- 00:45:06selection process but at the moment 100%
- 00:45:09of my time is spent on focused on making
- 00:45:11sure we get the varish operation into
- 00:45:13commercial production before the end of
- 00:45:172024 great we in progress basically in
- 00:45:21process basically with external search
- 00:45:24firms so feel free to put your hand up
- 00:45:26if you know of some put them
- 00:45:28forward um question on obviously with
- 00:45:32having tight concentrate markets so what
- 00:45:34is the outlook for spot TCS and can you
- 00:45:38lock these in for longer periods and
- 00:45:41would you consider hedging metal
- 00:45:43prices yeah sure so uh the good news on
- 00:45:47that front is that basically this is the
- 00:45:50best time to be selling lead and Zin
- 00:45:52concentrates in the history of lead and
- 00:45:53Zin concentrates so it's pretty good um
- 00:45:56so some people who are Keen Watchers of
- 00:45:58the metal markets may have seen some
- 00:46:00recent headlines around uh copper
- 00:46:02concentrates they've had negative
- 00:46:04treatment charges so people have been
- 00:46:06selling cargos into China and globally
- 00:46:09um for for negative whereas normally
- 00:46:11they're $80 a ton of concentrate um
- 00:46:16similarly for zinc if we think back for
- 00:46:19the last couple of years uh when we did
- 00:46:21the DFS I think we were talking about
- 00:46:23$200 to $230 a ton uh zinc treatment
- 00:46:27charge which is actually quite a lot um
- 00:46:29it it it does affect like a big part of
- 00:46:31your bottom line it's one of the main
- 00:46:33kind of costs for uh a concentrate
- 00:46:36operation but currently instead of 230
- 00:46:39they're they're minus 40 so smelters are
- 00:46:42actually paying miners like us to sell
- 00:46:44them product so that's a really good
- 00:46:47sign and that does help us in some of
- 00:46:49these things in terms of um you know the
- 00:46:51question earlier about the low grade
- 00:46:53initial concentrates have we been
- 00:46:55getting the full payability and yes we
- 00:46:57have I think a big part of that is that
- 00:46:59not only do we have good quality even if
- 00:47:01it's not perfect grade um we we are also
- 00:47:05are selling into a really tight market
- 00:47:07so we expect that to remain for the next
- 00:47:09couple of years we are selling primarily
- 00:47:13on fixed contracts which are instead at
- 00:47:15The Benchmark rates which are a little
- 00:47:17bit higher U but we can sell and we will
- 00:47:20be selling into the spot market and
- 00:47:22taking advantage of that so that's
- 00:47:23mostly on the well it's entirely on the
- 00:47:26lead side
- 00:47:27uh and hopefully let's see how the next
- 00:47:29kind of you know well l& week is coming
- 00:47:31up so we're kind of negotiating longer
- 00:47:33term deals with off-takers we may be
- 00:47:35able to lock in some of those low rates
- 00:47:37and you do see that in some of these um
- 00:47:40let's say similar projects to us so uh
- 00:47:43develop on the ASX they've just secured
- 00:47:46some pretty good off-take agreements
- 00:47:48with trafigura which is one of our
- 00:47:50off-takers so yes we we do hope for the
- 00:47:52next sort of let's call it three to five
- 00:47:54year period we we can take advantage of
- 00:47:56that so very good time for us to be
- 00:47:58selling and and it probably will just
- 00:48:00given the tightness of smelter plus you
- 00:48:03know basically no new mines are coming
- 00:48:05online that's an inherent kind of um
- 00:48:09yeah tightness in the market and also
- 00:48:10bullish for those metal prices right so
- 00:48:12it's a good time to be producing and
- 00:48:14selling zinc lead and silver and gold of
- 00:48:17course all-time highs so it's a good
- 00:48:19time to be selling metal I
- 00:48:21guess thanks what is the planned
- 00:48:24timeline for the study to increase the
- 00:48:26milk production to 1.3 million tons per
- 00:48:29anom so um so we are uh looking at so
- 00:48:34that study itself will be completed in
- 00:48:36the near future like within the next
- 00:48:38sort of um few weeks um month or so um
- 00:48:42that will be incorporated into a
- 00:48:45basically a long-term view of how we
- 00:48:48would seek to increase um basically EV
- 00:48:51for the for the business what we're
- 00:48:53thinking around from a from a strategy
- 00:48:55perspective for the longer term um
- 00:48:57increase in value um that is one of the
- 00:49:00components that we will feed into um I
- 00:49:02see another question on m&a that all
- 00:49:05that sort of those pieces of work are
- 00:49:06things that we'll be putting together
- 00:49:08over the next um couple of months and
- 00:49:10we'll bring back um to the markets for
- 00:49:12future conversations on where we're
- 00:49:14thinking um in quarter 1 2025 which will
- 00:49:18kind of tie in with results and and
- 00:49:20quarter four completion of quarter four
- 00:49:22work so um I've been focused on the on
- 00:49:25the short to medium term over the last
- 00:49:27um six weeks five weeks um so going
- 00:49:30forwards we'll start to make sure we
- 00:49:32build out that longer term option and
- 00:49:34that project or those longer term
- 00:49:35options and that project will feed into
- 00:49:37that as one of the one of the data
- 00:49:39points that we
- 00:49:42have great we've also had a couple of
- 00:49:44questions on exploration can we provide
- 00:49:47an update on Regional exploration both
- 00:49:50in Bosnia and uh in Serbia the Serbian
- 00:49:54projects yeah we' we've continued with
- 00:49:56exploration both in Serbia up at rascar
- 00:49:59and and and then obviously um continue
- 00:50:02drilling around um the Ruchi um or body
- 00:50:06including um over kind of varish East um
- 00:50:10doing some initial sampling work um uh
- 00:50:13on on um some potential or bodies over
- 00:50:16in that area um it's all um been going
- 00:50:19well it's been completed safely um with
- 00:50:22a real kind of mind to some of the some
- 00:50:24of the uh the slightly different um
- 00:50:27safety um criteria we have to meet over
- 00:50:29here including unexploded ordinance and
- 00:50:32and the like so we've been working
- 00:50:34through making sure we have um safe
- 00:50:36processes that allows us to access the
- 00:50:38ground that we that we you know that we
- 00:50:40want to sample the the um Sergey and the
- 00:50:44team are are basically reviewing the
- 00:50:46geological models with the new data
- 00:50:48that's been collected and we'll provide
- 00:50:50a more fullsome update um kind of
- 00:50:52basically in at the end of Q4 into q1
- 00:50:56when we when we come back to the markets
- 00:50:58um so so it has been progressing it's
- 00:51:00been progressing well um and um Sergey
- 00:51:04remains his usual enthusiasm for the um
- 00:51:06for the all bodies that he is doing um
- 00:51:09expiration over seeing some good results
- 00:51:11but nothing that we want to put onto the
- 00:51:13market um today but um watch this space
- 00:51:16for the future I'm particularly excited
- 00:51:19around the potential extensions local to
- 00:51:22um to the varish project um which is
- 00:51:25which is looking pretty
- 00:51:30positive thank you um there's also been
- 00:51:32a couple of questions on environment
- 00:51:35related issues um increase in activism
- 00:51:38for example could you provide an update
- 00:51:40on that front yeah look I think um this
- 00:51:44you know environmental activism is is
- 00:51:48just is a part of mining um you know
- 00:51:50globally we see we've seen over the last
- 00:51:53what 15 years particularly stay increase
- 00:51:57in the in people's awareness of their
- 00:52:00environment and and and um NOS are a
- 00:52:03part of that um and they won't be going
- 00:52:06away anytime soon so we're you know as
- 00:52:08as an industry we have to make sure
- 00:52:10we're thinking around you know how are
- 00:52:12we managing all of our environmental
- 00:52:14commitments and recognizing that we are
- 00:52:17you know many of the mistakes that we
- 00:52:19made in the past we need to we need to
- 00:52:21either Rectify or make sure that we
- 00:52:23don't don't repeat into the future um
- 00:52:25local to to um Europe you know mining is
- 00:52:30is is occurring alongside highly
- 00:52:33populated areas so the visibility of
- 00:52:36what we do and and and how we operate is
- 00:52:39always going to be at the Forefront of
- 00:52:40people's minds um and and we need to
- 00:52:43continue to work with all of our
- 00:52:45stakeholders um employees um you know
- 00:52:48local communities governments to make
- 00:52:51sure that we meet the environmental
- 00:52:53constraints that are put on us or
- 00:52:55environmental conditions that are put on
- 00:52:57us um and that includes Nos and working
- 00:53:00where we can working with them um but
- 00:53:02otherwise responding to them we have
- 00:53:04seen you know Serbia has seen an
- 00:53:07increased um uh kind of push on on on
- 00:53:12environmental activism particularly
- 00:53:14around the riotinto um lithium operation
- 00:53:17or lithium project um uh here we just
- 00:53:20need to continue to make sure we stay
- 00:53:22focused on on you know minimizing our
- 00:53:25environment envir mental impact
- 00:53:27operating in the right way and
- 00:53:29continuing to communicate with um
- 00:53:31communities regulators and what we do um
- 00:53:34I think each area each mine each
- 00:53:37operation is different um and needs we
- 00:53:40need to accept that each Community um
- 00:53:42has different needs and requirements and
- 00:53:44expectations of any operation that is
- 00:53:47located near it so we continue to stay
- 00:53:49aware we continue to work with people um
- 00:53:53and um and I don't expect any of the
- 00:53:56challenges from NGS to disappear anytime
- 00:54:02soon thank you Laura conscious of time
- 00:54:05as well um maybe apolog we haven't been
- 00:54:07able to answer all the questions um one
- 00:54:10to wrap up on is how are you thinking
- 00:54:12about m&a in the future what's edotic
- 00:54:15strategy on that
- 00:54:17front I'm gonna hand this one to Mike
- 00:54:20see as how his previous role was
- 00:54:22Business Development he yeah I I I think
- 00:54:25the easy way to think about it is that
- 00:54:27um you know the core focus of the
- 00:54:28company now is is ramping this asset up
- 00:54:31right the highest sort of irr Roi that
- 00:54:34exists for us is really getting this
- 00:54:36thing into into full throughput full
- 00:54:39production um I think at the same time
- 00:54:41you know we have always remained a
- 00:54:44pretty flexible you know kind of party
- 00:54:46we we do look at a lot of stuff so
- 00:54:49people will have seen you know in the
- 00:54:50media there's been some sales processes
- 00:54:52for some assets in Europe you know
- 00:54:54that's something that we we kind of um
- 00:54:57took a look at and there's a number of
- 00:54:58development opportunities exploration
- 00:55:00opportunities that we keep an eye on
- 00:55:02kind of a watching brief so that when we
- 00:55:05are sort of ramped up and and in next
- 00:55:07year we can take a look at that um with
- 00:55:09you know the view that if there's the
- 00:55:12right deal to be done that that might
- 00:55:14make sense for us you know we we've got
- 00:55:16a great team here in terms of
- 00:55:18construction permitting operations
- 00:55:21Finance you know everything we we've got
- 00:55:23I think a lot of value to bring
- 00:55:25especially in this this region which is
- 00:55:27not sort of as heavily invested in as
- 00:55:29some of your more traditional mining
- 00:55:31jurisdictions so it's something that we
- 00:55:33still think a lot about again priority
- 00:55:351A is definitely the ramp up first and
- 00:55:38we're not going to do anything to kind
- 00:55:39of jeopardize or distract that in the
- 00:55:41near term but I think as Laura said
- 00:55:44around expiration it's it's not
- 00:55:46something that we talk about in every
- 00:55:48update but you know watch this space um
- 00:55:50and at the same time yeah we we will
- 00:55:52look to be a pretty active party you
- 00:55:54know we're we're not here to just ort of
- 00:55:56do one thing and then rest on our
- 00:55:58Laurels for the next 20 years um that
- 00:56:00there's probably some pretty interesting
- 00:56:01opportunities out there for a team like
- 00:56:07ours great I mean didn't want to take
- 00:56:10one last question um someone was asking
- 00:56:12about antimony do we think we might be
- 00:56:14able to get some quality quantity
- 00:56:17payable oh it's a fun one um yeah the
- 00:56:20the price is absolutely skyrocketed and
- 00:56:22we do actually produce it as a as a
- 00:56:25byproduct primarily in our lead
- 00:56:27concentrate um it is something that we
- 00:56:31can get paid more for as we sell into
- 00:56:33China which again is something that
- 00:56:35we've been doing a little bit more than
- 00:56:37we expected earlier on uh for a few
- 00:56:39reasons one the the feed grate has been
- 00:56:41a lot higher than we thought so that
- 00:56:43that's giving us a high grade high
- 00:56:45silver grade uh product that we can sell
- 00:56:47into the Chinese market as well as yeah
- 00:56:49just the general tightness so it's
- 00:56:51something you know it's hard to put a
- 00:56:53number on it today but we will see a
- 00:56:55little bit of a lift call it I don't
- 00:56:58know 5% or something like that it's it's
- 00:57:00it's it's not Material just for the lead
- 00:57:02stream um but it's something that yeah
- 00:57:04if if antimony remains elevated for a
- 00:57:07number of years due to you know China
- 00:57:10versus the US kind of dynamic um we are
- 00:57:13potentially able to float a slightly
- 00:57:15different concentrate and it is
- 00:57:16something that the processing team is
- 00:57:18kind of looking at to increase that
- 00:57:19payability so yeah I guess similar to
- 00:57:22these other things watch this space but
- 00:57:24nothing nothing right now
- 00:57:28great thank
- 00:57:29you uh Laura Michael clar if I may just
- 00:57:32jump back in there and thank you very
- 00:57:33much indeed for being so generous of
- 00:57:35your time there and addressing all of
- 00:57:36those questions that came in uh this
- 00:57:38morning um but Laura perhaps before
- 00:57:40really just looking to redirect those on
- 00:57:42the C to provide you with their feedback
- 00:57:44which I know is particularly important
- 00:57:45to yourself and the company if I could
- 00:57:47please just ask you for a few closing
- 00:57:49comments just to wrap up with that'll be
- 00:57:51great yeah no great thank you um thank
- 00:57:54you everybody for asking some great
- 00:57:56questions um so I will just I just
- 00:57:58wanted to take a moment I guess just to
- 00:58:01reflect on the opportunity that kind of
- 00:58:03that sits here I mean Adriatic you know
- 00:58:06has had bumps in the road but
- 00:58:08fundamentally the project has been
- 00:58:10delivered we're in transition we're
- 00:58:11moving from Project spend to revenue
- 00:58:14generation and on an acral basis we were
- 00:58:16cash flow positive in August yet we're
- 00:58:19trading at consensus of 04 to.5 now 30
- 00:58:23to 40% free cash flow yield for next
- 00:58:25year depending on your price deck which
- 00:58:27is a deep discount to Silver peers base
- 00:58:30metal peers or probably just about any
- 00:58:32operating um producing Mining Company um
- 00:58:35that's that's that's out there today um
- 00:58:38we will finish the job in terms of ramp
- 00:58:40up we will build the routines of
- 00:58:41production um and revenue generation and
- 00:58:44we believe as management that Adriatic
- 00:58:47Metals remains a compelling opportunity
- 00:58:49in the market today um I do want to
- 00:58:52thank you all for your time for giving
- 00:58:54us some great questions
- 00:58:56um and to those of you who are heading
- 00:58:58out to visit the operation on Wednesday
- 00:59:00we're really looking forward to seeing
- 00:59:02you and to be able to show you around
- 00:59:04and that you can see um that what we've
- 00:59:07been saying is is is in actuality
- 00:59:10something that exists on the ground um
- 00:59:12so really looking forward to seeing
- 00:59:13those of you who can make it on
- 00:59:14Wednesday otherwise thank you for your
- 00:59:16time today and really appreciate um the
- 00:59:19effort that you put into dial in thank
- 00:59:21you very
- 00:59:22much perfect Laura that's great and
- 00:59:24thank you once again for updating attemp
- 00:59:26online this morning could I please ask
- 00:59:28attendees online not to close this
- 00:59:29session as you'll now be automatically
- 00:59:31redirected for the opportunity to
- 00:59:32provide your feedback in order the
- 00:59:34management team can really better
- 00:59:35understand your views and expectations
- 00:59:38this will only take a few moments to
- 00:59:40complete but I'm sure be greatly valued
- 00:59:41by the company on behalf of the
- 00:59:43management team of Adriatic Metals PLC
- 00:59:46we would like to thank you for attending
- 00:59:47today's presentation that now concludes
- 00:59:50today's session so good morning to you
- 00:59:52all
- Adriatic Metals
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