Johan Rockström | Planetary boundaries: scientific advances | Frontiers Forum Live 2023

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TLDRThe talk addresses the profound changes humanity has imposed on Earth's systems, initiating the Anthropocene epoch where human actions are key drivers of planetary alteration. It emphasizes the urgency of addressing overlapping global crises—climatic, ecological, and geopolitical. Planetary boundaries are discussed as limits necessary to maintain Earth's resilience and stability. Scientists stress keeping global warming below 1.5°C to avoid catastrophic tipping points, urging for an integrated approach in transforming energy, food, and ecological systems. The progress towards sustainability involves deep systemic changes and individual actions to preserve biodiversity and climate resilience.

Takeaways

  • 🌍 Humanity has entered a new geological epoch, the Anthropocene, where human activity dominates Earth's systems.
  • 📉 We've reached a point where hard-wired Earth system processes are being affected, losing natural resilience.
  • 🚨 There's a convergence of crises: geopolitical, climate, and ecological, leading to a potential polycrisis.
  • ❌ 1.5°C warming poses dire risks, threatening stability and demanding immediate climate action.
  • ⏳ The IPCC highlights that only a rapid transition to renewable energy and intact ecosystems can uphold 1.5°C.
  • 🔍 Earth system resilience is crucial; major ecosystems like the Amazon and Arctic are showing signs of stress.
  • 🧩 Scientific studies now connect tipping points across various ecosystems, signaling a global interconnected impact.
  • 📈 The ‘planetary boundaries’ framework emphasizes maintaining Earth’s resilience based on Holocene conditions.
  • 💼 Reaching net-zero carbon emissions by 2050 involves a holistic transformation of energy, food, and land systems.
  • 💡 Individual and systemic actions are vital; understanding the severe limits is key to driving climate action.

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  • 00:00:00 - 00:05:00

    The discussion delves into the scientific basis for establishing planetary boundaries, emphasizing humanity's transition into the Anthropocene as the dominant force affecting Earth's systems. It highlights the urgent necessity of setting a safe operating space for humanity to avert crises like climate change and biodiversity loss, which threaten Earth's resilience and natural regulatory processes.

  • 00:05:00 - 00:10:00

    The speaker highlights the severity of multiple interlinked global crises, including geopolitical, climate, and ecological crises. They discuss the significant loss of biodiversity and the rise in zoonotic pandemics as consequences of Earth's declining resilience. The analysis underscores the urgent need to adhere to planetary boundaries to maintain Earth's stability and ability to support life.

  • 00:10:00 - 00:15:00

    Climate change indicators signal grave concern, with warming trends and extreme weather events occurring despite cooling phases like La Niña. The alarming rate of climate impacts, such as massive financial damages from natural disasters, questions the feasibility of maintaining global temperatures within the agreed 1.5°C limit. Urgent action is needed to retain this target, emphasizing the critical nature of 1.5°C as a physical boundary.

  • 00:15:00 - 00:20:00

    The presentation stresses the importance of intact natural systems for global carbon balance and ecosystem health, aligning with planetary boundary concepts. Innovative climate modeling has delineated Earth's temperature journey over millennia, underscoring the stability of the Holocene and warning against exceeding historical temperature limits to avoid catastrophic impacts, urging swift climate action based on these insights.

  • 00:20:00 - 00:25:00

    Carbon sequestration and oceanic heat absorption represent major planetary regulatory mechanisms aiding climate stabilization, currently under threat due to persistent environmental stressors. Evidence indicates weakening biosphere resilience, warning signs about forests switching from carbon sinks to sources. This vulnerability underscores the necessity for comprehensive strategies addressing both climate mitigation and ecological preservation.

  • 00:25:00 - 00:30:00

    The talk emphasizes the interconnectedness of climate tipping points and the perilous consequences of surpassing them. The importance of keeping within 1.5°C is reiterated, with evidence pointing to systemic risks associated with higher temperatures, including potential cascade effects among key global systems. This reinforces the role of planetary boundaries in maintaining Earth's health and stability.

  • 00:30:00 - 00:38:49

    The concept of planetary boundaries is extended to broader sustainability concerns, emphasizing the need for systemic transformation across all sectors, beyond energy decarbonization. Successful examples, like the Montreal Protocol, illustrate pathways for action, while reminding about the delicate state of Earth's resilience. The urgency of reallocating growth within these boundaries outlines a holistic environmental strategy crucial for future sustainability.

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  • What is the Anthropocene?

    The Anthropocene is a proposed geological epoch that highlights significant human impact on Earth's geology and ecosystems, including climate change.

  • Why are planetary boundaries important?

    Planetary boundaries define safe environmental limits within which humanity can operate to avoid catastrophic Earth system damage and maintain stable conditions for human development.

  • What are climate tipping points?

    Tipping points are thresholds where small changes can lead to dramatic shifts in Earth's system state, potentially triggering irreversible impacts.

  • How does 1.5°C warming affect Earth?

    Warming to 1.5°C significantly threatens planetary stability, increasing the risk of crossing critical climate tipping points and intensifying ecological and social crises.

  • What role does biodiversity play in Earth's resilience?

    Biodiversity supports Earth’s resilience by stabilizing ecosystems, contributing to carbon sequestration, water cycling, and providing vital ecosystem services.

  • How are global crises interconnected?

    Global crises like climate, ecological, and zoonotic disease outbreaks are interlinked, often amplifying each other’s impacts and risks, leading to compounded challenges.

  • Why is immediate action crucial for climate change?

    Immediate action is needed to prevent exceeding safe planetary boundaries, reduce greenhouse gases, and sustain Earth's resilience against ongoing climatic disruptions.

  • Can humanity revert the changes to Earth's systems?

    While significant damages have occurred, there is still potential to restore and stabilize by rapidly transitioning to renewable energy, restoring ecosystems, and adhering to planetary boundaries.

  • What does the term 'polycrisis' refer to?

    Polycrisis refers to the convergence of multiple, simultaneous global crises that interact and amplify their impacts, posing complex challenges.

  • What strategies are recommended for sustainability?

    Recommended strategies include decarbonizing energy systems, restoring ecosystems, transitioning agriculture to regenerative practices, and halting biodiversity loss.

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    I want to take you down on the ground
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    for a moment and give you the scientific
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    story behind the planetary boundaries
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    the three pieces of extraordinary
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    advancements in Earth system science
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    that took us to the point where we per
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    necessity needed to define a safe
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    operating space for Humanity's future on
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    earth and the first piece of the science
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    is undoubtedly what I would argue being
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    the most important message from science
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    to humanity over the past 30 years we've
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    entered a whole new geological Epoch
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    we're now the dominating force of change
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    on planet Earth my fellow scientist will
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    Stefan leading Earth system scientist
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    that we unfortunately lost two months
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    ago he expressed it in the following way
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    we're now starting to hit the ceiling of
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    hard-wired processes that regulates the
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    state and functioning of the entire
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    Earth system we're working right now in
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    my Institute by showing the evidence
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    that we're no longer in the anthropocene
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    we're deep into the anthropocene we're
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    starting to see the loss of the
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    resilience which actually put into
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    question Vice president Al Gore's final
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    statement here of this optimistic
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    assumption that the ipcc correctly does
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    that if we stopped emitting greenhouse
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    gases the Earth system will be so
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    powerful in its natural processes that
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    it will simply suck up the carbon and
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    get the temperatures down this is the
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    challenge it's coming back into the
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    planet boundaries that gives us any
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    chance of that to be true now the
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    anthropocene is the scale and the pace
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    and connectivity in a globalized world
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    it translates to something which I would
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    call the current turbulence in the world
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    we have a geopolitical crisis we have a
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    climate crisis but we also have an
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    ecological crisis 70 percent of the
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    populations of vertebrates have been
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    lost over the past 70 years one million
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    of 8 million known species are extinct a
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    risk at Extinction in just the next
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    decades but this is not the fundamental
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    challenge with ecological crisis is that
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    we're losing the ability for moisture
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    recycling for carbon sequestration for
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    food production it's fundamentally also
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    linked to the fourth crisis the zoonotic
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    disease outbreaks of pandemics we've
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    talked about that today
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    that hockey stick you saw earlier this
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    morning of the pandemics across the
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    world well they're all zenosis they're
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    all viral spillovers from Wildlife by
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    domestic animals to humans very lightly
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    and this is in itself indicatively
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    caused by unsustainable overexploitation
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    of natural habitats so not only do we
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    have simultaneous Global crisis we are
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    moving towards what potentially is a
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    polycrisis when crisis interacts and
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    reinforce each other that's where we're
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    in we're in this turbulent phase of
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    transition now so far on climate we are
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    at 1.2 degrees Celsius of warming it's
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    sourced from six different empirical
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    observation stations across the world
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    I've just pointed out the two extreme
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    points here which is the 1998 and the
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    2016 El Nino events you remember them
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    perhaps I was myself in Kenya during the
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    terrible flooding of 1998 just
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    extraordinary extreme Peaks well we've
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    had three years of La Nina
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    three years of La Nina which normally
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    should mean a cooler temperature but
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    despite that 2022 is the fifth warmest
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    year on record and it's the most
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    expensive year in terms of loss and
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    damage 313 US dollars in payment check
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    from the climate impacts estimated last
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    year across the entire world just the
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    Pakistan floods is very likely a 20
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    billion US dollar price tag
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    as you've seen Noah projects that we're
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    going into an nino phase probably later
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    this year but very likely next year
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    we're actually likely to bump into 1.5
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    already by 2024. this will apart from
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    the extreme events it will cause it will
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    also certainly surface this questioning
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    of whether 1.5 degrees Celsius can be
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    held as the Target that we've all agreed
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    upon I will be giving you the science
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    why we need to hold on to 1.5 as a
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    physical limit we cannot abundant 1.5
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    but this is where we are in a jumpy
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    situation and just like Al Gore pointed
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    out ipcc the common denominator the
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    consensus across the entire climate
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    science Community is now very clear in
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    its language this is the high level
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    summaries from the summary report that
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    came out of the ar-6 just a few weeks
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    back I'm highlighting three in my mind
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    key insights number one we're in the
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    midst of the crisis it's hitting human
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    well-being across the world today
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    secondly For the First Time The ipcc
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    makes clear we're threatening the
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    stability of the planet
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    this is what the planetary boundary size
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    has been saying since 2009.
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    It also says if you look at the lower
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    sentence here on the slide for the first
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    time that there is no safe landing for
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    Humanity on 1.5 only by phasing out
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    fossil fuels we need to keep the natural
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    processes intact actually the ipcc even
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    gives a number here up to 50 percent of
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    intact nature on land needs to be kept
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    intact for carbon sinks and carbon
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    sequestration capacity
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    is actually exactly the planetary
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    boundary on land so it just shows us
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    that the movement of direction is
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    towards interdisciplinary Global
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    sustainability science also to deal with
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    the climate crisis now the science and
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    support of what is at stake is Rising by
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    every paper that is coming out and here
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    I'm showing what I find to be personally
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    that's one of the most impactful graphs
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    I've seen over the past two years I
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    should be clear here though this is the
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    Potsdam institute's climber II emic
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    climate model led by Andrei ganopolsky
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    and Mateo Willett but it's the first
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    time we're able with just physics and
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    Mathematics to reproduce the Journey of
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    our home planet Earth over the past
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    three million years that's the x-axis
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    the entire quaternary the pleistocene
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    plus the Holocene the y-axis Global mean
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    surface temperature zero is the
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    pre-industrial 14 degree celsius point
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    the black line is validation data you
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    recognize the last million years ice
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    core data the melanchovic site talking
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    between hundred thousand years of ice
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    ages short fifteen to thirty thousand
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    years of anti-glacials we've had six to
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    eight of those but look at the green
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    line
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    how the planet is dancing oh yes a lot
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    of natural variability solar forcing
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    volcanic eruptions earthquakes in and
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    out of cold ice ages and warm
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    interglacials but not at one time as far
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    as we understand today did we reach two
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    degrees
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    the warmest point on Earth is below two
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    the coldest point is roughly minus five
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    deep Ice Age
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    I call this today the corridor of Life
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    why well it's because we have all
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    evidence that the Earth prior to the
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    quaternary is not an earth that we
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    recognize as an earth that we know it it
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    has a different configuration of the
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    continents it has different chemistry
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    biology carbon cycle nitrogen cycle
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    water cycle it's another type of Planet
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    it's only in the quaternary that we have
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    a reference point for a planet that is
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    at any assemblance of the living planet
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    that we depend on for our
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    future so this graph in itself I would
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    argue is enough for climate action
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    because we're following a pathway that
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    takes us to 2.7 degrees Celsius in only
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    seven years 70 years I mean that is
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    undoubtedly without any hesitation in
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    science a catastrophe
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    this graph is enough to show we want to
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    stay away well below two we are today at
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    1.2 the warmest temperature on Earth
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    since we left the last ice age and we
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    have that data as well it's incredible
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    to see the osmaral synthesis that came
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    out in 21 you know 2021 actually
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    throughout the whole planetary boundary
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    science I have always said that the
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    Holocene is a reference point for
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    desired planet that we depend on for
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    human development that I would argue is
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    scientifically quite well established
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    today we've been on planet Earth for 200
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    000 years as modern humans we've lived
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    through two ice ages and two
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    interglacials but it's only when we
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    leave the last ice age some sixteen
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    thousand years ago that we shipped over
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    from hunters and gatherers a few million
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    people to
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    basically just two thousand years into
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    the Holocene and we do the most
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    important invention of all of our
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    civilizational history on Earth the
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    Neolithic Revolution we become sedentary
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    Farmers we domesticate animals and
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    plants and off we go into the
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    civilizational journey that takes us to
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    the point where we can meet today and
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    talk about artificial intelligence and
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    massive Innovations and science for
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    Humanity's future
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    now I've been saying throughout this
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    journey that the Holocene is a 14 degree
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    celsius Planet plus minus one degree
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    I was wrong
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    the awesome adult paper shows that it
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    was even more narrow it's a 14 degree
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    celsius plus minus 0.5
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    all the variability that climate
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    denialists love to pick forward the
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    medieval warm period where Vikings
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    supposedly were picking grape on the
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    southern points of Greenland were called
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    the tenth Gustav the Swedish King
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    invaded Denmark in the late 17th century
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    walking over the ice between Sweden and
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    Denmark because of the little Ice Age
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    all of this sure it happened it was
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    natural variability within 0.5
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    this is a very deep Insight we use this
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    in the planet of boundary science as a
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    reference point for the desired state of
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    the planet we know the Holocene we
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    measure against it the drama is that we
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    also know increasingly why the planet
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    stayed in this extraordinarily stable
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    State it's not that the sun was so
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    gentle to us it's not that volcanic
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    eruptions were so
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    non-abundant it is because of a healthy
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    biosphere you've always seen I'm sure
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    the global carbon projects Global carbon
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    cycle updates each year you see the
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    graph here to the left from 1850 until
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    today it's our journey of fossil fuel
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    burning you see the hockey stick in Gray
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    of fossil fuel hockey stick in Orange
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    deforestation is it all of this that has
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    caused accumulated in the atmosphere to
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    cause 1.2 degrees Celsius so far the
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    answer is no we all know this we know
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    that the dark blue part here is the
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    ocean uptake the green part is the
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    intact nature uptake and the more we
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    stress the system with energy imbalance
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    the more nature the more Earth has been
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    helping us applying its biogeophysical
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    systems to dampen and reduce warming
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    this is a healthy Planet responding to
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    stress because the Holocene is an
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    attractor with feedbacks that keeps the
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    system in an equilibrium the numbers are
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    quite clear we've had the privilege of a
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    50 uptake of a healthy Planet over this
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    entire period this is the largest
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    subsidy to the world economy completely
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    hidden and here comes the key point in
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    reference back to vice president Al Gore
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    the ipcc models even in the ar-6 assumes
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    that this will continue
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    assume that we can count on the ocean we
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    can count on intact nature the problem
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    is we're seeing more and more scientific
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    papers showing cracks in this system
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    we have the latest synthesis in the
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    Brazilian part of the Amazon rainforest
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    showing that over the past 10 years the
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    richest terrestrial ecosystem on planet
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    Earth the Amazon rainforest has shifted
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    over from sink to Source can imagine
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    she's not helping us anymore in the
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    tropical rainforest system we're seeing
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    signs from Finland the per capita riches
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    tempered Forest country in the world
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    that has so far already in 2022 shifted
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    over from sink to Source in the
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    temperate forest systems we're seeing
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    signs of similar developments in Germany
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    in Sweden in Russia in Canada this is
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    worrying it's it's warning signals of
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    losing resilience in the earth system we
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    also have the ocean playing exactly the
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    same role for US 95 of the heat cause
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    biophosphere burning is taken up in the
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    ocean hiding out the heat the planet is
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    a thermostat now the El Nino Dynamics is
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    showing how this is potentially hitting
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    back at us at a higher frequency with
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    more severe magnitude so we have to be
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    very careful when we just easily
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    consider the pathway to the future is
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    only to decarbonize the Energy System
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    it's actually to come back with
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    implanetary boundaries to keep the
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    resilience intact but I want to come
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    back to the climate boundary and just
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    make the scientific point that 1.5 is
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    really a physical limit we mapped The
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    Tipping elements of the climate system
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    published in science a year back 16
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    climate tipping element systems has now
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    over 15 years of scientific advancement
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    been you know criteria very very
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    robustly selected they must fulfill two
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    key criteria one is that they
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    scientifically contribute I mean that
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    evidence of contributing to the state of
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    the climate system and secondly that
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    they have multiple stable States push
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    them too far and they cross the Tipping
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    Point here you have the map of the 16 I
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    just show it to make the point that they
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    are distributed across the entire planet
  • 00:13:08
    we all depend on them I personally
  • 00:13:11
    that's not published anywhere but I
  • 00:13:13
    personally consider these to be the
  • 00:13:14
    Global Commons the new Global Commons in
  • 00:13:16
    the anthropocene because we all
  • 00:13:18
    independent where we live depend on the
  • 00:13:20
    stability of these systems because they
  • 00:13:22
    help us they have negative feedbacks
  • 00:13:24
    dominating their equilibrium State and
  • 00:13:27
    they thereby cool and dampen pressures
  • 00:13:29
    from climate change here you have the
  • 00:13:31
    more scientific assessment of these 16.
  • 00:13:33
    on the x-axis you have the Tipping
  • 00:13:35
    element systems and you have the ipcc
  • 00:13:38
    red Embers assessment of confidence on
  • 00:13:41
    temperature assessments so the y-axis is
  • 00:13:44
    at what temperature are they at risk of
  • 00:13:46
    crossing their tipping points the black
  • 00:13:48
    dotted lines is the median level so
  • 00:13:50
    that's the likely point of crossing a
  • 00:13:52
    Tipping Point and now I'll put on the
  • 00:13:54
    1.5 line
  • 00:13:56
    and what you see is that four of these
  • 00:13:58
    systems the ones furthest to the left
  • 00:13:59
    are likely to cross their tipping points
  • 00:14:01
    already at 1.5 and these are the green
  • 00:14:04
    and ice sheet
  • 00:14:05
    the West Antarctica sheet all tropical
  • 00:14:08
    coral reef systems livelihoods for over
  • 00:14:10
    150 million people in coastal areas in
  • 00:14:13
    the equatorial belt on planet Earth and
  • 00:14:15
    abrupt thawing of permafrost in the
  • 00:14:17
    Boreal Zone up in the Arctic just the
  • 00:14:19
    two ice sheets hold 10 meter sea level
  • 00:14:21
    rise it wouldn't crash overnight of
  • 00:14:24
    course it would take perhaps thousand
  • 00:14:26
    years but it would be unstoppable it
  • 00:14:28
    would be a feedback shift and a
  • 00:14:30
    transition towards a new equilibrium
  • 00:14:32
    State I would argue that this provides
  • 00:14:34
    tremendous scientific support for
  • 00:14:36
    holding on to 1.5 is this one science
  • 00:14:39
    group saying this or is it something
  • 00:14:40
    that we're increasingly seeing
  • 00:14:42
    mainstreamed in a consensus in size I
  • 00:14:44
    would argue yes because here is the
  • 00:14:46
    trajectory between the ar5 and the ar-6
  • 00:14:49
    in terms of risk assessment so here's
  • 00:14:51
    the ipcc's red Ember diagrams on risks
  • 00:14:55
    for ecosystems but I'll just put on all
  • 00:14:57
    of these red Embers you've probably seen
  • 00:14:58
    them focus on the furthest to the right
  • 00:15:01
    the one right here which is the ipcc
  • 00:15:04
    assessment of large-scale singular
  • 00:15:06
    events which is basically non-linear
  • 00:15:09
    Dynamics and irreversible changes in
  • 00:15:11
    large tipping element systems the ar5
  • 00:15:13
    estimates the risks at roughly three
  • 00:15:15
    degrees Celsius but look at the more the
  • 00:15:17
    science advances the more we learn that
  • 00:15:20
    Earth is more sensitive to pressures of
  • 00:15:24
    climate forcing and that the risk level
  • 00:15:25
    even in the ipcc assessment is now down
  • 00:15:28
    to between 1.5 and 2 and the ipcar6 has
  • 00:15:31
    a list of 16 tipping element systems
  • 00:15:34
    without temperature levels but they have
  • 00:15:36
    a qualitative assessment so there we are
  • 00:15:38
    and we really need to understand that
  • 00:15:41
    the planetary boundaries is about
  • 00:15:42
    avoiding Crossing these thresholds to
  • 00:15:45
    keep the systems at a state that still
  • 00:15:47
    supports us I just want to show one
  • 00:15:49
    slide though what the implications can
  • 00:15:52
    be if we do not turn around very quickly
  • 00:15:54
    in terms of impacts on security
  • 00:15:56
    this is work from Mexico and colleagues
  • 00:15:59
    at Exeter University
  • 00:16:01
    I think this is one of the graphs that
  • 00:16:03
    should be in every foreign policy
  • 00:16:05
    Ministry in the world today on color you
  • 00:16:08
    have the traditional fragility maps of
  • 00:16:10
    economies so darker the red the more
  • 00:16:12
    Fragile the Nations but it's a health
  • 00:16:14
    layer combined with climate impact
  • 00:16:16
    assessments so what you see here in the
  • 00:16:18
    black spots are the regions that have an
  • 00:16:20
    average temperature exceeding 29 degrees
  • 00:16:22
    Celsius on an annual basis this is a
  • 00:16:25
    health threshold go above this and you
  • 00:16:27
    have health threats to us humans that's
  • 00:16:30
    why not surprisingly it's only in the
  • 00:16:32
    Sahara Desert you see this extreme heat
  • 00:16:37
    the dashed lines is the assessment if we
  • 00:16:39
    continue burning fossil fuels as today
  • 00:16:41
    the regions that will have this health
  • 00:16:43
    threatening temperature in only 50 years
  • 00:16:46
    time
  • 00:16:47
    this is a 2070 assessment just look at
  • 00:16:51
    the map
  • 00:16:52
    just look at the map Brazil West Africa
  • 00:16:55
    Horn of Africa Middle East look at India
  • 00:16:57
    soon world's most populated Nations 3.5
  • 00:17:00
    billion people living in regions where
  • 00:17:03
    the vulnerable who cannot afford hiding
  • 00:17:06
    behind air-conditioned housing will have
  • 00:17:09
    the risk of social instability potential
  • 00:17:11
    collapse migration and we see
  • 00:17:14
    increasingly related risks related also
  • 00:17:18
    to conflict this is of course something
  • 00:17:20
    we have to avoid it's a recipe for
  • 00:17:22
    instability of the world economy the
  • 00:17:24
    frontier in science though is is amongst
  • 00:17:27
    others this we're seeing more and more
  • 00:17:29
    evidence that these tipping element
  • 00:17:30
    systems are connected through Cascades
  • 00:17:33
    even so we have 16 16 systems but we
  • 00:17:37
    have several scientific papers out now
  • 00:17:38
    showing that when the green and ice
  • 00:17:39
    sheet melts so fast warming three times
  • 00:17:43
    faster than the average of planet Earth
  • 00:17:44
    releasing cold fresh water it slows down
  • 00:17:47
    the thermodynamic engine of overturning
  • 00:17:49
    of heat in the North Atlantic this is
  • 00:17:51
    well established 50 percent slow down
  • 00:17:54
    over the past 30 years
  • 00:17:56
    this pushes the monsoon further south
  • 00:17:58
    which can explain the rapid dieback and
  • 00:18:01
    forest fires and reduce rainfall over
  • 00:18:03
    another tipping element namely the
  • 00:18:05
    Amazon rainforest but of course slowing
  • 00:18:07
    down the overturning of heat also means
  • 00:18:08
    that more saline surface water warm
  • 00:18:11
    surface water is stuck in the Southern
  • 00:18:13
    Ocean which can explain why the West
  • 00:18:14
    Antarctic ice sheet is warming faster
  • 00:18:16
    melting faster than we had expected and
  • 00:18:19
    interconnectivity between the Arctic and
  • 00:18:21
    Antarctica through the Tipping elements
  • 00:18:24
    this is the scientific Frontier so the
  • 00:18:26
    evidence is one anthropocene two the
  • 00:18:29
    Holocene is our reference and three is
  • 00:18:31
    tipping points and this gives us this
  • 00:18:33
    heuristic equation that took us to the
  • 00:18:35
    planetary boundaries so I just want to
  • 00:18:37
    share this with you because we're fellow
  • 00:18:39
    scientists that the planetary boundaries
  • 00:18:40
    was just one little incremental step I
  • 00:18:43
    would even argue the unavoidable
  • 00:18:45
    incremental step based on all the
  • 00:18:47
    evidence we are sitting on it was kind
  • 00:18:49
    of an obvious that if we are putting all
  • 00:18:50
    this pressure on the planet if we're
  • 00:18:52
    risking non-linear change that cannot be
  • 00:18:54
    stopped if we have a reference point of
  • 00:18:56
    a desire Planet two questions arise
  • 00:18:58
    question number one is what are the
  • 00:19:00
    processes the biophysical processes that
  • 00:19:03
    regulates the state of the planet and
  • 00:19:05
    question number two can we with the
  • 00:19:06
    Holocene as a reference point quantify
  • 00:19:09
    scientifically boundaries within which
  • 00:19:11
    we have a high chance of staying within
  • 00:19:13
    a holocene-like interglacial state that
  • 00:19:15
    can support Humanity but go beyond it
  • 00:19:17
    and we risk drifting off the way
  • 00:19:20
    from the state that supports humanity
  • 00:19:22
    and Tata you have the planetary boundary
  • 00:19:25
    framework it was published the first
  • 00:19:27
    time in 2009 what you see here is the
  • 00:19:29
    2015 update here we are four of the nine
  • 00:19:32
    boundaries transgressed in our 2015
  • 00:19:34
    assessment
  • 00:19:35
    climate biodiversity land system change
  • 00:19:39
    and overloading of nitrogen phosphorus
  • 00:19:41
    you see one very important boundary that
  • 00:19:44
    is inside the safe space here which is
  • 00:19:46
    the stratospheric ozone layer actually
  • 00:19:48
    it was outside deep in the red in the
  • 00:19:50
    1980s but we actually thanks to science
  • 00:19:53
    thanks to the Fantastic work by Paul
  • 00:19:55
    Christian Mario Molina and Sherwood
  • 00:19:58
    Roland who got the Nobel Prize for
  • 00:20:01
    identifying the depletion of the
  • 00:20:03
    stratosphere goes on layer the chemistry
  • 00:20:05
    behind it and even showing the pathway
  • 00:20:08
    to a policy of of
  • 00:20:10
    forbidding the chlorofluorocarbons that
  • 00:20:13
    was causing this life-threatening
  • 00:20:16
    hole in the ozone layer for Humanity
  • 00:20:19
    the interesting thing with this story is
  • 00:20:20
    the following nobody had seen an ozone
  • 00:20:23
    hole nobody had really experienced the
  • 00:20:26
    immediate impacts
  • 00:20:27
    but the world listened to science
  • 00:20:30
    and policy listen to science and in 1987
  • 00:20:33
    the Montreal protocol was signed and it
  • 00:20:36
    didn't say an emission pathway it forbid
  • 00:20:38
    the gas it didn't say zero by 2050 it
  • 00:20:42
    said from now on it's finished and
  • 00:20:45
    industry was ready to innovate and that
  • 00:20:48
    took us to a solution and since two
  • 00:20:50
    years NASA has said the hole has been
  • 00:20:52
    closed we're back into the safe space
  • 00:20:54
    and why is this a success story I always
  • 00:20:56
    get criticized say well but you know but
  • 00:20:58
    the Mantra protocol that was an easy one
  • 00:20:59
    it was one industry one set of chemicals
  • 00:21:02
    this Technologies were there but I would
  • 00:21:05
    argue that we've reached a Montreal
  • 00:21:07
    moment for climate because the science
  • 00:21:09
    has settled just like the Montreal the
  • 00:21:12
    policy is settled just like the Montreal
  • 00:21:14
    protocol because there's nothing less to
  • 00:21:16
    negotiate with the Paris agreement it's
  • 00:21:18
    old and there we even have the loss and
  • 00:21:20
    damage in place the article six
  • 00:21:21
    everything is in place
  • 00:21:23
    we have all agreed to reach Zero by
  • 00:21:25
    2050. we have the 1.5 set the third part
  • 00:21:29
    has always been missing on climate we
  • 00:21:31
    did not have the solutions but now we
  • 00:21:33
    have them we have scalable Solutions so
  • 00:21:35
    we've reached a Montreal moment on the
  • 00:21:37
    climate boundary so the message to you
  • 00:21:40
    here today is the following in the midst
  • 00:21:42
    of the climate crisis where we're
  • 00:21:44
    putting so much risk on energy imbalance
  • 00:21:48
    in the atmosphere
  • 00:21:50
    when exactly at that moment you'd like
  • 00:21:52
    to have a strong resilient planet we
  • 00:21:54
    have unfortunately the planet in the
  • 00:21:57
    weakest Point throughout the entire
  • 00:21:59
    Holocene that's not a good combination
  • 00:22:01
    you don't want to have a weak planet
  • 00:22:05
    at a point of climate stress so this is
  • 00:22:08
    why we need to recognize that the
  • 00:22:10
    journey we're on is not a journey of
  • 00:22:12
    decarbonizing the Energy System it's
  • 00:22:14
    about a global sustainability transition
  • 00:22:16
    it's a transformation and the
  • 00:22:18
    transformation path is increasingly
  • 00:22:19
    researched the Earth commission came up
  • 00:22:21
    with a paper recently showing that we're
  • 00:22:23
    really at the edge of the Holocene it's
  • 00:22:24
    now the choice point we will be able to
  • 00:22:26
    transform and have a safe landing with
  • 00:22:28
    within safe and just
  • 00:22:31
    safe operating space or will we actually
  • 00:22:33
    start drifting off unstoppably towards a
  • 00:22:35
    hot house Earth State we know that for
  • 00:22:37
    the climate boundary the journey is set
  • 00:22:39
    it's actually a pace of 67 reduction of
  • 00:22:43
    global emissions per year to half
  • 00:22:45
    emissions by 2030 and reached NetZero by
  • 00:22:47
    2050 but my message to you is that this
  • 00:22:49
    is not enough this is the journey we're
  • 00:22:51
    on on climate decarbonize the world's
  • 00:22:54
    Energy System in Gray
  • 00:22:56
    transform the food system from dark
  • 00:22:58
    brown the single largest emitter to
  • 00:23:01
    become a sink in Orange scaling negative
  • 00:23:04
    emission Technologies in in real orange
  • 00:23:06
    the brown is actually the food system
  • 00:23:08
    but then also invest in the resilience
  • 00:23:11
    on intact nature and land the green part
  • 00:23:14
    which means stop expansion of
  • 00:23:17
    agriculture in particular to keep intact
  • 00:23:19
    nature intact
  • 00:23:20
    build more regenerative agriculture and
  • 00:23:24
    keep the carbon stability in the ocean
  • 00:23:26
    we have translated this into the carbon
  • 00:23:29
    law which means the pace we need to
  • 00:23:31
    follow is what I call inspired by the
  • 00:23:33
    Moore's Law cutting emissions by half
  • 00:23:35
    every decade would take us to one of
  • 00:23:38
    these steps of decarbonizing energy
  • 00:23:39
    system this is what we've been
  • 00:23:40
    discussing here a lot as Al Gore pointed
  • 00:23:43
    out there are really good points of
  • 00:23:46
    transition I I fully agree that we're
  • 00:23:48
    now turning a corner this is just a map
  • 00:23:51
    that I think we've underestimated 70
  • 00:23:54
    countries and regions in the world have
  • 00:23:56
    a price on carbon we have 200 countries
  • 00:23:58
    in the world and Europe has been pointed
  • 00:24:01
    out several times here has now adopted
  • 00:24:02
    not only the ets2 the mission trading
  • 00:24:05
    scheme for agriculture and transport and
  • 00:24:08
    construction buildings but also the sea
  • 00:24:10
    band which is a tax for All Imports for
  • 00:24:13
    those who are trying to export goods to
  • 00:24:15
    Europe without charging a price on
  • 00:24:17
    carbon this I would argue may actually
  • 00:24:19
    create a global price on carbon
  • 00:24:21
    automatically bottom up to level the
  • 00:24:24
    playing field
  • 00:24:25
    Al Gore refer referred to this the ipcc
  • 00:24:28
    positive hockey sticks of exponential
  • 00:24:30
    rise and renewable energy systems I
  • 00:24:33
    agree this is this is really exciting we
  • 00:24:35
    did quite recently a back of the
  • 00:24:36
    envelope showing that the doubling pace
  • 00:24:39
    of the past 15 years on Renewable Energy
  • 00:24:41
    Systems is doubling globally every 5.5
  • 00:24:44
    years but it's barely showing on the
  • 00:24:47
    curve because it's exponential and we
  • 00:24:49
    start from such a low point but if we
  • 00:24:51
    continue that pace just business as
  • 00:24:53
    usual
  • 00:24:54
    we would have 50 percent of electricity
  • 00:24:57
    globally from renewable energy by 2030.
  • 00:25:01
    so it's actually true that we are on
  • 00:25:03
    these exponentials it's S curves of
  • 00:25:06
    change but unfortunately we're not yet
  • 00:25:07
    bending the curve on the fossil fuel
  • 00:25:09
    generation but we're seeing a lot of
  • 00:25:12
    innovation paced and I would say that
  • 00:25:14
    one of the most exciting ones which has
  • 00:25:16
    been referred to is the transition in
  • 00:25:17
    the whole Mobility sector the fact that
  • 00:25:20
    we are now for the first time seeing
  • 00:25:21
    political leaders saying we have end
  • 00:25:24
    dates on the combustion engine that the
  • 00:25:27
    European Union is setting that date to
  • 00:25:29
    2035 just shows that we are on an Abrupt
  • 00:25:31
    change Journey but I want to really end
  • 00:25:33
    up just with coming back to the
  • 00:25:35
    biosphere at cop 15 last year in
  • 00:25:38
    Montreal the Kunming Montreal meeting
  • 00:25:40
    really established the 1.5 degrees
  • 00:25:42
    Celsius equivalent on nature the nature
  • 00:25:45
    positive agenda the planetary boundary
  • 00:25:47
    for nature and nature processes and that
  • 00:25:51
    point says we have to stop losing
  • 00:25:53
    functions in ecosystems from 2020
  • 00:25:55
    onwards this will not be possible
  • 00:25:57
    because we continue to lose it means we
  • 00:26:00
    have to regenerate and invest in nature
  • 00:26:02
    and have a net positive Point by 2030 to
  • 00:26:05
    uphold that resilience into your system
  • 00:26:07
    we are translating this to science-based
  • 00:26:10
    targets for businesses and cities across
  • 00:26:12
    the world through the Earth commission
  • 00:26:13
    and the Global Commons Alliance I see a
  • 00:26:15
    very interesting trajectory there going
  • 00:26:16
    from carbon to all the other planetary
  • 00:26:18
    boundaries for businesses and cities and
  • 00:26:21
    this is coming out 31st of May in and
  • 00:26:23
    also a scientific report that we hope
  • 00:26:26
    will be useful across communities in the
  • 00:26:30
    world and the only kind of final deeper
  • 00:26:33
    scientific take-home I want to just
  • 00:26:35
    leave with you is that yes we are in the
  • 00:26:38
    anthropocene yes that is a major major
  • 00:26:41
    challenge because we are the dominating
  • 00:26:43
    geological force of change on planet
  • 00:26:45
    Earth
  • 00:26:45
    but one thing that we at least
  • 00:26:47
    scientifically can say today is that it
  • 00:26:50
    is an Epoch but it's a pressure so far
  • 00:26:52
    it's not a new state we still have the
  • 00:26:55
    window open to keep the planet in a
  • 00:26:58
    hollow scene-like interglacial State we
  • 00:27:00
    don't have evidence that we have lost
  • 00:27:01
    the race but it is a race because I
  • 00:27:05
    totally agree with Henry and I agree
  • 00:27:07
    with Al Gore who pointed out that's not
  • 00:27:09
    a question anymore whether we are
  • 00:27:12
    at that hum point on the journey towards
  • 00:27:15
    a fossil fuel free world economy the
  • 00:27:18
    question is will we be fast enough will
  • 00:27:21
    we be too late will we be able to keep
  • 00:27:23
    the resilience intact so that's the
  • 00:27:25
    journey and the journey is really about
  • 00:27:27
    Equity but also Innovation and
  • 00:27:29
    transformation and of course science
  • 00:27:30
    plays a fundamental role here thank you
  • 00:27:32
    very much
  • 00:27:36
    I have never heard the
  • 00:27:39
    Earth for 1.5 make quite so compellingly
  • 00:27:43
    as you did then would you agree with me
  • 00:27:47
    foreign
  • 00:27:52
    we've got a lot of questions coming in
  • 00:27:53
    I'm going to take a question from one of
  • 00:27:55
    our online audience
  • 00:27:58
    um Arthur who's the president of the
  • 00:28:00
    international environment Forum in
  • 00:28:01
    Switzerland what's the planetary
  • 00:28:03
    boundary for photosynthesis where we've
  • 00:28:05
    destroyed so much plant life that it can
  • 00:28:07
    no longer feed all life on the planet
  • 00:28:10
    well thanks for that question but that's
  • 00:28:12
    that's um really it's almost as if I had
  • 00:28:15
    planted that question with him
  • 00:28:17
    photosynthesis planted of course you
  • 00:28:19
    caught that didn't you um
  • 00:28:21
    because in in the third scientific
  • 00:28:23
    update which is in reviewing right now
  • 00:28:24
    we're we're still having a challenge
  • 00:28:26
    with the bias forintegrity boundary
  • 00:28:28
    which has two control variables one is
  • 00:28:30
    extinction rates I mean species genetic
  • 00:28:33
    diversity that's quite easy to measure
  • 00:28:35
    and we've had the same boundary
  • 00:28:36
    definition since 2009 Extinction rates
  • 00:28:39
    per million species per year but the
  • 00:28:42
    second one has been much more difficult
  • 00:28:43
    which is on functional diversity we've
  • 00:28:46
    used mean species abundance we've used
  • 00:28:48
    the bias for integrity index but this
  • 00:28:50
    time we'll be using human appropriation
  • 00:28:52
    of net Prime reproduction exactly your
  • 00:28:55
    suggestion and we are measuring net
  • 00:28:58
    primary production through a number of
  • 00:28:59
    Earth system models and observations and
  • 00:29:02
    setting the maximum allowed
  • 00:29:04
    expropriation of net primary production
  • 00:29:07
    because that is a good indicator both of
  • 00:29:10
    carbon but also in terms of the health
  • 00:29:12
    of the entire natural system it is an
  • 00:29:15
    aggregate note though because many
  • 00:29:16
    colleges will say that it's a it's a bit
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    clumsy because it doesn't really it
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    doesn't distinguish between
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    native ecosystems and managed ecosystems
  • 00:29:26
    but still we think it can be used at an
  • 00:29:28
    earth system scale now you haven't got
  • 00:29:31
    population size on those plant
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    boundaries
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    um why not and is there a need for a
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    separate boundary for population size
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    yeah so that is um an important question
  • 00:29:45
    but it's almost like a like a whole
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    lecture in itself but but let me put it
  • 00:29:49
    very simple and it may surprise you a
  • 00:29:51
    bit but um I think you'll you'll
  • 00:29:54
    you'll you'll see my point here that
  • 00:29:56
    when we
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    um set out to map the planetary
  • 00:30:01
    boundaries the question we asked
  • 00:30:03
    is actually uh kind of disconnected from
  • 00:30:07
    us humans we're just asking the question
  • 00:30:09
    what does it take to keep the planet in
  • 00:30:11
    a Holocene state
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    biophysically in a Holocene State and
  • 00:30:16
    once we've defined that irrespective of
  • 00:30:18
    number of humans or human needs or human
  • 00:30:21
    wants we can then put Humanity back
  • 00:30:23
    within that safe operating space and
  • 00:30:25
    then the plan to boundary framework
  • 00:30:27
    therefore is completely agnostic to
  • 00:30:29
    whether we are 5 or 10 billion or
  • 00:30:31
    whether we are poor or rich or whether
  • 00:30:33
    we are high or low consumer whether we
  • 00:30:34
    have growth or no growth
  • 00:30:36
    I believe that was a really important
  • 00:30:39
    choice the limits to growth for example
  • 00:30:40
    did it differently they mapped natural
  • 00:30:43
    resources on Earth as well as you could
  • 00:30:45
    1972 and then compare that with human
  • 00:30:48
    needs and made assumptions on technology
  • 00:30:50
    and they failed because they assessed a
  • 00:30:54
    bit like maltas underestimated the pace
  • 00:30:56
    of innovation in terms of resource
  • 00:30:59
    efficiency the planetary boundary
  • 00:31:01
    framework on the other hand makes no
  • 00:31:02
    such assumptions we don't meddle
  • 00:31:04
    whatsoever with human needs once
  • 00:31:07
    Innovation we just say here's the fence
  • 00:31:08
    play your game inside that fence then if
  • 00:31:12
    you play like Leoni Messi or as I would
  • 00:31:14
    have played if I was on a football pitch
  • 00:31:16
    that's up to humanity
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    thank you we've got time for a couple of
  • 00:31:21
    quick questions uh from inside the
  • 00:31:23
    audience uh gentleman there my name is
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    John Porter and um
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    I'm from the University of Copenhagen
  • 00:31:30
    Denmark and uh
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    I work for the ipcc since
  • 00:31:34
    1994 I think I started with them again
  • 00:31:37
    it's a question about the things that
  • 00:31:39
    may be included in the planetary
  • 00:31:41
    boundary
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    and do you think this should Johan do
  • 00:31:45
    you think there should be their
  • 00:31:46
    planetary boundary for
  • 00:31:48
    gross domestic product for example I
  • 00:31:51
    mean because we are are we coming is
  • 00:31:54
    that
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    something which is pushing us
  • 00:31:57
    outside the the levels of safety within
  • 00:32:01
    the within the planetary boundaries
  • 00:32:03
    because is that the engine which is
  • 00:32:05
    actually pushing us outside into the
  • 00:32:08
    area of I mean you can argue both ways
  • 00:32:10
    you can say
  • 00:32:11
    you know GDP generates investment which
  • 00:32:14
    you can use for producing non-fossil
  • 00:32:17
    fuel sources of energy
  • 00:32:19
    so where where's your what's your
  • 00:32:21
    feeling about that
  • 00:32:27
    it's enough of population actually so
  • 00:32:30
    so we've kept GDP or economic growth
  • 00:32:34
    outside of the planetary boundary
  • 00:32:35
    framework
  • 00:32:36
    but but you're absolutely absolutely
  • 00:32:38
    right I mean these are
  • 00:32:40
    primary drivers why we are transgressing
  • 00:32:43
    the boundaries
  • 00:32:45
    we are doing more and more research on
  • 00:32:47
    many groups in the world are doing
  • 00:32:48
    research on connecting
  • 00:32:50
    GDP growth population growth even sdg
  • 00:32:54
    delivery against the planetary
  • 00:32:56
    boundaries so perhaps start groups even
  • 00:32:59
    in this room doing that kind of
  • 00:33:00
    interdisciplinary work so I'm totally
  • 00:33:03
    with you it's just that the fundament is
  • 00:33:05
    that the boundaries themselves
  • 00:33:08
    um are just setting the biophysical
  • 00:33:09
    space and then questions of GDP or
  • 00:33:13
    population or or technology comes as a
  • 00:33:17
    as a next integrator
  • 00:33:19
    so for example we're we're doing quite
  • 00:33:22
    some work on can we meet the sustainable
  • 00:33:24
    development goals within planetary
  • 00:33:25
    boundaries that's that's a big question
  • 00:33:28
    and there's a list of called the world
  • 00:33:30
    in 2050 where led by yasa which is you
  • 00:33:35
    know saying that 2030 is a milestone for
  • 00:33:37
    the for the sdgs but by 2050 we should
  • 00:33:40
    continue delivering on the sustainable
  • 00:33:41
    development goals in terms of
  • 00:33:43
    just like Banky Moon pointed out in
  • 00:33:45
    terms of the social
  • 00:33:47
    um 169 targets 17 goals within planetary
  • 00:33:52
    boundaries we cannot risk the planet now
  • 00:33:54
    the sdgs interestingly has four of the
  • 00:33:56
    boundaries six thirteen fourteen fifteen
  • 00:33:59
    so biodiversity fresh water oceans
  • 00:34:03
    and climate are are there
  • 00:34:06
    um which is very positive but not all
  • 00:34:08
    the nine
  • 00:34:10
    um two more questions um there's one
  • 00:34:12
    over there
  • 00:34:14
    and sir just tell us who you are
  • 00:34:17
    from the University of Illinois Champion
  • 00:34:20
    uh very very inspiring talk and the way
  • 00:34:24
    I think about it there are fundamentally
  • 00:34:26
    two aspects to The Climate system one is
  • 00:34:28
    the energy and the second one is water
  • 00:34:31
    and one doesn't maintain the other those
  • 00:34:35
    are two different facets uh of a climate
  • 00:34:38
    system and we have done a pretty good
  • 00:34:40
    job articulating issues from the energy
  • 00:34:42
    side using the lens of temperature and
  • 00:34:45
    we know what those fluctuations are and
  • 00:34:48
    how they matter we haven't done that for
  • 00:34:51
    water and from some of the planetary
  • 00:34:53
    boundaries I see that the fresh water
  • 00:34:55
    has hasn't crossed the boundary and yet
  • 00:34:59
    that's one of the most important things
  • 00:35:01
    that we hear about in terms of floods
  • 00:35:03
    and droughts and other things is there a
  • 00:35:05
    way for us to characterize the planetary
  • 00:35:07
    boundary from the lens of water rather
  • 00:35:09
    than just temperature and create an
  • 00:35:11
    index or what would that look like or
  • 00:35:13
    what are the challenges I'd love to hear
  • 00:35:15
    your thoughts on that briefly if you
  • 00:35:17
    were here yeah no that that's a well
  • 00:35:19
    really good question and well to begin
  • 00:35:20
    with the latest planet boundary
  • 00:35:22
    assessment does actually put even the
  • 00:35:25
    freshwater boundary outside of the safe
  • 00:35:27
    space based on the latest Publications
  • 00:35:29
    which are outside the planet boundary
  • 00:35:30
    group on both green water and Blue Water
  • 00:35:32
    they've done a fantastic study on the
  • 00:35:34
    variability in relation to that logical
  • 00:35:36
    cycle in the in the in the late Holocene
  • 00:35:38
    I think it would be really important to
  • 00:35:41
    include water water is victim number one
  • 00:35:43
    of climate impacts but we're also
  • 00:35:45
    changing the whole hydrological cycle
  • 00:35:47
    not only because of climate change but
  • 00:35:48
    also because of land system change so
  • 00:35:51
    you're right I think we're missing that
  • 00:35:53
    indicator on fresh water stability fully
  • 00:35:56
    and it also perhaps gives me just a
  • 00:35:58
    final reminder that
  • 00:36:00
    there is of course many environmental
  • 00:36:02
    impacts occurring before you transgress
  • 00:36:04
    the planetary boundary because we're
  • 00:36:06
    only in the planet boundary framework
  • 00:36:07
    only concerned with the stability of the
  • 00:36:09
    planet but local environmental impacts
  • 00:36:11
    like collapse in freshwater systems or
  • 00:36:15
    droughts or ecosystems collapsing may
  • 00:36:18
    occur or will occur before you knock
  • 00:36:20
    over the planet so it's not it's not
  • 00:36:22
    substituting all the great Frameworks
  • 00:36:26
    for Environmental Management it's a
  • 00:36:27
    compliment
  • 00:36:29
    final question over here hi my name is
  • 00:36:31
    Govinda I'm an entrepreneur building
  • 00:36:34
    software to decarbonize in our Energy
  • 00:36:35
    Systems so all the discussion every time
  • 00:36:38
    I listen to scientists it depresses me
  • 00:36:40
    uh even though I've done climate science
  • 00:36:44
    I think what we need to get back at an
  • 00:36:46
    individual level how I can Define my own
  • 00:36:48
    planetary boundaries I don't know how it
  • 00:36:50
    can go because that will
  • 00:36:52
    be more actionable so I don't know
  • 00:36:54
    what's your thought at the bottom of
  • 00:36:56
    approach rather than talk to an approach
  • 00:36:57
    here thank you yeah thanks though so I I
  • 00:37:00
    ended a bit quickly by saying that one
  • 00:37:02
    of the things that really excites us and
  • 00:37:04
    the planet about is science Community is
  • 00:37:06
    that we're working very closely with the
  • 00:37:08
    science-based target Network translating
  • 00:37:11
    the boundaries into operational
  • 00:37:13
    science-based targets that can be used
  • 00:37:14
    by companies individual companies cities
  • 00:37:17
    countries so so that is one way of doing
  • 00:37:21
    it I think the second is actually just
  • 00:37:23
    just to take on that systems perspective
  • 00:37:25
    and always remembering that you cannot
  • 00:37:27
    focus in only on on carbon and energy
  • 00:37:30
    you have to always look at implications
  • 00:37:33
    across the other boundaries and I think
  • 00:37:35
    it's it's a very good starting point to
  • 00:37:37
    start with fresh water and biodiversity
  • 00:37:39
    as two of those obvious first impacted
  • 00:37:43
    boundaries when it comes to changes in
  • 00:37:45
    the climate system
  • 00:37:48
    so just as Banky moon was saying shorter
  • 00:37:50
    showers Turn All the Lights Off
  • 00:37:53
    all of those kind of things every
  • 00:37:55
    everything is is good but I you know
  • 00:37:57
    when I get this question that's that's
  • 00:37:59
    all important as well but I think the
  • 00:38:01
    most important thing that we can do is
  • 00:38:03
    is is to tell this scientific story to
  • 00:38:06
    our friends and and to keep this
  • 00:38:08
    momentum going I think it's a it really
  • 00:38:10
    worries me that uh we we do not have
  • 00:38:14
    we're not close even to understanding
  • 00:38:16
    that we're putting the whole planet at
  • 00:38:18
    risk and we're certainly not close as
  • 00:38:20
    having a more wide understanding of 1.5
  • 00:38:22
    degrees Celsius we should not play with
  • 00:38:24
    that number it's a really serious limit
  • 00:38:26
    and so I think it's uh just
  • 00:38:29
    um just spreading that message is
  • 00:38:31
    equally important as as our own
  • 00:38:33
    behaviors
  • 00:38:34
    thank you so much Johanna rockstone
  • 00:38:36
    [Applause]
  • 00:38:39
    [Music]
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