MASS OF THE AGES: Episode 1 — Discover the Traditional Latin Mass

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-mIM_CrCYY4

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TLDRThis video delves into the life of a woman grappling with her husband's death and her reliance on Catholic faith to find solace and direction. She emphasizes the role of the traditional Latin Mass in offering a sense of continuity and deeper connection to her religion. The video explores how Catholic traditions, such as rosaries and prayers, offer a peaceful and structured way of handling life’s challenges. Through recounting personal experiences and reflections, the narrative underscores the enduring influence of the faith on her and her children during tough times.

Takeaways

  • 🕊️ Faith provides solace in times of grief.
  • 🙏 The traditional Latin Mass offers a deep spiritual connection.
  • 📚 Tradition serves as a solid foundation for life.
  • 👨‍👩‍👧‍👦 Family values are strengthened through shared beliefs.
  • 🧒 Children find comfort in religious teachings about eternity.
  • ✨ The Eucharist is central to Catholic worship and belief.
  • 🎶 Music like Gregorian chant enriches the liturgical experience.
  • 📈 The video highlights the declining trend of Mass attendance among younger Catholics.
  • 🏛️ The video touches upon the architecture and solemnity of Catholic traditions.
  • 💬 Conversations about faith can lead to personal transformation.

Garis waktu

  • 00:00:00 - 00:05:00

    The speaker reflects on preparing for a family member's burial, emphasizing the significance of eternity in Catholic belief. There's a discussion about the challenges of maintaining faith in a world where Catholic tradition and community feel diminished.

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    The narrator describes a crisis of faith experienced years ago, as well as the lack of Catholic peers for their child. This personal struggle mirrors a broader issue of church engagement and leadership, reflected in the declining number of priests.

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    There's a significant shortage of priests, exacerbated by changing values and declining participation in religious ceremonies like mass. The narrator reveals an emotional connection to traditional Catholic rites like the Latin Mass, associated with deeper spiritual experience.

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    The Latin Mass is reflected upon as a period of contemplative preparation distinct from worldly experience. The narrative conveys both initial confusion and growing appreciation of its solemnity and structure, especially compared to modern practices.

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    The speaker describes their journey back to the Latin Mass, highlighting its complexities and emotional depth. This return coincided with personal hardships and brought newfound spiritual clarity and peace.

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    Community experiences difficulties integrating the Latin Mass at first due to its unfamiliarity but discovers its enriching, historical essence. Personal stories illustrate how this experience reshapes one's spiritual understanding and connection.

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    Attention is given to the beauty and solemnity of traditional liturgy, which leads to a deep spiritual versus social connection to the Mass. The broader narrative contrasts the transformative nature of traditional practices against modern modifications.

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Video Tanya Jawab

  • What is the main theme of the video?

    The main theme is coping with grief through faith and the significance of the traditional Latin Mass in maintaining religious beliefs and values.

  • How does the speaker cope with her husband's death?

    She finds solace in her faith, particularly through the traditional Latin Mass and Catholic traditions, which she shares with her children.

  • What is the significance of the traditional Latin Mass?

    The traditional Latin Mass is portrayed as a source of deep spiritual connection, offering a sense of transcendence and continuity with the past.

  • Why does the speaker value tradition?

    Tradition is seen as a solid foundation that provides stability and a connection to faith and community.

  • How do the children perceive their faith after their father's passing?

    The children's idea of eternity and heaven is a daily reality since they believe their father is there, underscoring the family's religious beliefs.

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    until his headstone arrives.
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    So we have it all designed and ordered and ready to go.
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    And I actually bought the plot right next to him.
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    So we're gonna have a monument here with our name.
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    And then the verse that's kind of been our motto
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    is Job 1:21, the Lord gives, and the Lord takes away.
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    Blessed be the name of the Lord.
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    I think I bought him more flowers
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    than he's bought me at this point.
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    Yeah.
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    In traditional Catholicism, I see that the end,
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    all be all is not this earth.
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    It is the world to come.
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    For myself and the kids, that's our goal.
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    Their idea of eternity is like,
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    it smacks them in the middle of the eyes every day,
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    'cause that's where their dad is.
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    I mean, not to make everything about death,
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    but this life is not what we were created for.
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    - Blues are now the safe spaces.
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    - You guys just automatically skipped my turn.
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    So this is -- - I'm sorry, you go.
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    - Space. - Yeah, that space.
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    - After you went, Levi went.
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    And then it's my turn.
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    Then Max's turn.
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    - I don't go 'cause I already won.
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    - Okay. - You got one more, Max.
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    - I win.
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    - Okay.
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    - Then Lois' turn, then my turn, then Lea's turn,
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    then Ava's turn.
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    - You said you had hit a ceiling with your faith.
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    What did you mean by that?
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    - You know, three or so years ago,
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    just going to Mass and sensing that,
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    okay, is this it?
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    Is there something more?
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    And seeing our children hit the age
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    where the influence of Michael and I was still important,
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    but the influence of the people that they were around
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    was going to be almost more important.
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    And my daughter was 11 at the time, entering pre-teen years
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    and really looking around
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    and saying she doesn't have any friends that are Catholic.
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    Okay, she's in religious education,
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    but she's the only one who knows her Hail Mary.
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    You know, in fifth grade,
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    - A crowd like this might make you think
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    that all is well in seminaries in the United States,
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    and that all is well with youth
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    in the Catholic church.
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    But this is St. Joseph's seminary on any other day.
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    Clear evidence of a dire priest shortage
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    in the United States.
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    And most experts fear it will get worse
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    as current priests age
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    and fewer young people enter the seminary.
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    Changing values are part of the reason
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    only 10% of Catholics
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    under the age of 30 say they go to Mass regularly.
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    - You know, the proposal of Vatican II
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    was to make the Mass more accessible.
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    And that meant, of course, making the doctrine concerning
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    what the Mass is more accessible.
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    But we've had the exact opposite.
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    - In 1980, a ratio of nearly 2000 Catholics to each priest,
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    by 2015, 3000 to one.
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    But here in San Bernardino,
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    it's 7,000 parishioners to each priest.
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    - Kitski and one other priest are in charge
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    of seven churches in the Milwaukee Archdiocese.
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    - Amen.
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    - There used to be a time when 14 priests
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    covered these seven churches.
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    - Sure, exactly.
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    - Is that the old model?
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    - Yeah, it not only,
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    and maybe not the old model, it would be the old model,
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    but it's the old reality.
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    - Do you worry about that?
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    - Definitely, yes.
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    We obviously need need more priests.
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    - By one estimate, the current marriage rate
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    is at its lowest point in a century,
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    and it's dropping
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    - Every 13 seconds.
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    Someone in America gets divorced.
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    That equates to almost 2.5 million divorces a year.
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    - There's so many variables as to what causes depression,
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    but such a giant number
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    - Yeah. - Of people suffer
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    from depression.
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    - If I'm being honest, I think it's gonna get worse.
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    - No one can tolerate being alone for any length of time.
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    We can't maintain our own sanity
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    without continual feedback from other people.
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    - The rise in suicides was also seen across all races, ages,
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    genders, and ethnicities.
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    - Underneath everything in your life,
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    there's that thing that empty, forever empty.
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    You know what I'm talking about?
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    That? - Yes,
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    - Yes.
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    - Were you raised a Catholic?
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    - I was raised Catholic.
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    - And you were an altar boy, right?
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    - You know, that's what you do.
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    You don't have a choice.
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    - I've only gone to Catholic schools.
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    Jesuit high school, Jesuit college.
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    Catholic elementary school.
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    - We were you an altar boy?
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    - Yeah.
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    - I was an altar boy too.
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    You, you were raised Catholic, right?
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    I was raised Catholic.
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    - [Stephen] Come on back, Bill.
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    - Matthew 6:9 says,
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    "Our Father, which art in heaven."
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    This be thy name.
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    Hallowed be thy name.
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    - [Terry] So you went to Catholic school
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    when you were young? - Oh yeah.
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    - [Terry] Did you have a --
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    - [Jimmy] I wanted to be a priest.
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    - [Terry] Did you really?
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    - Yeah, I loved it. - Why?
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    - [Jimmy] I loved the church.
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    I loved the idea of it.
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    I loved the smell of the incense.
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    I loved the whole idea of it.
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    My grandfather was very religious, so I used to go to Mass
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    with him at 6:45 in the morning.
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    Serve Mass, and --
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    - Life begins at conception.
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    That's the church's judgment.
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    I accept it in my personal life.
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    But I refused to impose it on equally devout Christians
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    and Muslims and Jews.
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    I just refuse to impose that on others.
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    - I grew up Catholic.
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    I don't go to church anymore.
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    There's a part in church
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    where the priest says, peace be with you.
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    And for many, many years we all said,
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    - [Audience] And also with you.
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    - Very good.
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    - [Terry] You still go to church?
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    - [Jimmy] I don't go.
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    I tried to go back when I was out in LA
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    and I was like kind of struggling for a bit.
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    I went to church for a while.
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    But it's like too,
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    there's a band there now.
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    And you have to hold hands
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    with people through the whole Mass now.
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    This is too much for me.
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    I want the old way.
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    I want to hang out with the the nuns, you know,
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    that was my favorite type of Mass in the grotto.
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    And just like, straight up, that just Mass Mass.
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    - And I remember as a child, I received my First Communion,
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    kneeling on the tongue.
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    The Mass was in Latin.
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    There was solemnity around it.
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    Now what do we have?
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    We have a free for all in the sanctuary.
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    You know, we have the casual distribution of Holy Communion.
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    - By everybody. - People don't kneel.
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    In fact, some priests get annoyed if people kneel.
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    - Right. - And you know,
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    the doctrine is taught not simply by
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    what teachers and catechists say, but how the priests
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    and the liturgy communicates the message.
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    - I mean, everything that we were doing in life
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    is on the table to examine.
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    And that included where we were going to Mass
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    and how we were living our faith, especially.
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    Do you need help marking your missal?
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    - No.
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    - Do you have it marked already?
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    - Mama.
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    - Look at you
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    Teenager.
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    Now I know at some point it's out of my hands
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    and it's their choice and it's their decision.
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    But to walk my children into heaven
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    however I can is the number one priority of my life.
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    - I will go into the altar of God.
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    To God who gladdens my youth.
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    Judge me, O God, and distinguish my cause
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    from the nation that is not holy
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    Deliver me from the unjust and deceitful man
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    for you are God, my strength,
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    why have you cast me off?
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    Why do I go sorrowful while the enemy afflicts me?
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    Send forth your light and your truth
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    they have led me and brought me to your holy hill
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    and into your tabernacles
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    I will go into the altar of God.
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    To God who gladdens my youth
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    I will give praise upon the harp to you God, my God
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    Why are you sad, o my soul?
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    And why do you disquiet me?
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    Hope in God, for I will still give praise to him
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    the salvation of my countenance and my God.
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    Glory be to the Father, and to the Son,
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    and to the Holy Spirit
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    as it was in the beginning, is now, and ever shall be,
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    world without end. Amen.
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    - The prayers of the foot of the altar are
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    one of the most beautiful features
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    of the traditional Latin Mass
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    because you start slowly and carefully
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    and you prepare yourself
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    for the ascent up the holy mountain.
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    There's a sense there of the priest begging to be worthy
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    to take on his priestly role in persona Christi.
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    And therefore, all the rest of us
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    who are watching that
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    are also given a chance to wake up
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    to what we're doing, to catch up with what we're doing
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    in a way to slow down.
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    We need a period of preparation, a period of transition
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    that takes us from secular life to this timeless
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    domain of the sacred.
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    - The first impression
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    for some people isn't always a positive one
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    because it's so different.
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    It's so different from anything they experienced.
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    Not only going to the ordinary form of the Mass,
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    but just anything they experience in life is
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    so unlike the Latin Mass
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    that they really just don't know what to think.
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    - It was barely audible.
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    The people didn't give any responses.
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    And I was thoroughly confused the entire time.
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    - I didn't even know it had started until 10 minutes in.
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    I mean, I was sitting there, I didn't realize
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    that it was just, you know,
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    the priest was at the foot of the altar
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    saying the prayers quietly.
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    I was way back in the back of the church.
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    I didn't even realize it.
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    - And here I am, 38 weeks pregnant.
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    I was in jeans.
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    Not even just like pants, just jeans.
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    Just this cardigan, you know, and no veil.
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    'cause I was like, we didn't,
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    I had no idea what's happening.
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    - And we had gotten there early for confession,
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    so like expecting behavior of our small children
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    for like three hours.
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    There were times where we were like,
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    I swear if you make one more noise, yeah.
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    - I have to go to the corner.
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    I don't know what we did.
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    I don't even know what threats we made.
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    - Yeah, what's crazy, we came back, we kept going.
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    - I was studying theology at Boston College.
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    I was getting a PhD in Catholic Theology.
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    And always just assumed that the only difference
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    between the liturgy before Vatican II and after
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    was that they had translated it into English.
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    And I was getting a PhD in theology.
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    And I was under that impression.
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    [THE NEW MASS]
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    [THE LATIN MASS]
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    - If you look at the order of Mass,
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    you'll see a psalm at the beginning.
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    Psalm 42 at the beginning.
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    You'll see a couple of psalms in the offertory.
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    You know, you see psalm verses quoted around the time
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    of the priest's Communion.
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    It's shot through with Sacred Scripture,
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    with the word of God.
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    You have an obligatory set of propers,
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    usually from the Psalms.
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    [PROPERS: changing prayers for each day]
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    And all of those are always going to be read or sung
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    [87% of the Propers are unique]
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    [87% of the Propers are unique]
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    It ends with the prologue of the Gospel of John,
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    which is a summation of the whole of divine revelation.
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    It's a kind of gospel of the Gospels.
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    So there's this moment of basking in an awareness
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    of what is it that we've just participated in,
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    and why is it so significant?
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    There's a gentle entry into worship
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    and a gentle departure from it
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    that is much more natural and much more helpful.
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    - If there's anything official in music in the church,
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    it's Gregorian chant.
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    It's the only thing that is non-negotiable.
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    [1000 years before Christ, the chanting of Scripture began
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    in the Temple of Jerusalem]
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    [Chant was adopted into the ancient Catholic liturgy]
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    [developing a Greek and Roman style]
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    [and organized by Pope St. Gregory the Great]
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    [1400 years ago]
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    [Masses were composed by masters of music:
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    Palestrina, Victoria, Byrd, and Mozart]
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    [When Mass is in English, these masterpieces are lost.]
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    It's very easy for an accomplished choir,
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    but even for intermediate or beginning choir,
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    it is quite possible with ease to program 10 years
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    of church music without repeating a Mass on Sunday.
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    [A HIGH MASS is sung by a Choir
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    and assisted by multiple servers]
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    [A LOW MASS is prayed mostly in silence.]
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    - So by training, I'm a seminary professor,
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    and that's what I did for a good chunk of my life
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    as a priest.
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    25 years a priest,
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    and 15 of those years were in seminary formation
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    - So His Eminence, of course, loves
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    and celebrates the Extraordinary Form.
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    But when he arrived in St. Louis as the Ordinary in 2004,
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    he was already under the impression
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    that I celebrated the Extraordinary Form.
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    And so there were young men in the seminary
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    who were interested in learning the Extraordinary Form.
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    I was the director of Sacred Liturgy.
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    He was sending them to me.
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    And I finally had to say him
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    in one of our weekly meetings,
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    I said, you're grace,
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    I don't celebrate the Extraordinary Form.
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    And "oh, father Morris, you need..."
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    I wasn't Monsignor then.
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    "You need to learn".
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    And I said yes.
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    And so I met two seminarians there,
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    who themselves were attached to the traditional Mass.
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    So they trained me.
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    They got me over my fears of my bad Latin.
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    It was really, really bad.
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    I was embarrassed.
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    I couldn't memorize things,
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    but it was Low Mass.
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    Made lots of mistakes.
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    And I remember both of us leaving, and I just, I wept.
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    I mean, and I wept. I mean, it was,
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    snot, tears, the whole nine yards.
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    It wasn't just...
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    I wept almost to the degree I wept when I was ordained.
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    It felt, it was just overwhelming to me
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    how beautiful it was.
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    It was so simple, so profound with all the mistakes.
  • 00:16:27
    There was still something very natural to it.
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    And I realized that I was actually able to pray.
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    - It was a Low Mass and maybe 25 people were there,
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    and I was covered with sweat.
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    I was working so hard and terrified.
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    And the people afterwards said
  • 00:16:57
    it was life changing for them.
  • 00:17:01
    They knew I was sweating bullets.
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    And they said, that's what should happen.
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    When you stand before the throne of mercy
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    and the judgment seat.
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    When you're offering the supreme sacrifice.
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    - I notice this reverence.
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    I notice this participation.
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    And then the most important thing
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    I would say I noticed is the coherence.
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    I have very poor Latin to read, to speak, to understand.
  • 00:17:31
    And yet the Mass made much more sense
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    in the traditional Latin Mass
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    where I don't speak the language
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    than in the English Mass, where I do,
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    - We were rushed.
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    We were downtown in Manhattan. It was pouring down rain.
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    We got in, we knelt down,
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    and then the traditional Latin Mass was a Low Mass.
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    And it was over.
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    And then we were briskly driven to LaGuardia.
  • 00:17:59
    And it was such a flash, you know, it didn't really rock me,
  • 00:18:03
    but I already knew enough by then to recognize
  • 00:18:07
    the antiquity of the traditional Latin Mass.
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    So I was eager to go back to another one.
  • 00:18:13
    I am drawn to the traditional Latin Mass
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    because it feels as though the transcendence,
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    the presence of heaven on earth,
  • 00:18:21
    but just the majesty of God,
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    and the otherness of the worship of the angels
  • 00:18:28
    and the saints in glory, to have the whole community
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    and the priest facing not just the altar,
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    but heaven.
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    And to have that priest representing us as mediator,
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    offering sacrifice.
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    I'm still subjectively more familiar
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    and at home with the Novus Ordo,
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    but objectively, intellectually, but also spiritually
  • 00:18:55
    drawn to the traditional Latin Mass,
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    I think in part, precisely because it puts me in my place.
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    - There was a family I knew
  • 00:19:04
    that they didn't like the Latin Mass.
  • 00:19:07
    We had both, of course, in that parish.
  • 00:19:09
    And so they wouldn't come to the Latin Mass.
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    And a light bulb went off in the mother's mind
  • 00:19:15
    at one point.
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    She has four children and a husband.
  • 00:19:18
    And she said, it's about control.
  • 00:19:22
    I realize now that in the Novus Ordo, I'm in control.
  • 00:19:26
    Or the priest is in control,
  • 00:19:27
    or we are in control of the liturgy.
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    But in the Latin Mass,
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    I don't know what's going on a lot of the time.
  • 00:19:34
    And it's clear that I'm not in control,
  • 00:19:36
    but there is someone in control because it is so perfect.
  • 00:19:42
    The rubrics, and the execution of the liturgy
  • 00:19:46
    helps me to believe that there is someone in control
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    of the church.
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    And it's not me.
  • 00:19:52
    - There was a haughtiness to how I presided.
  • 00:19:56
    I do it better than this guy,
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    so I'm gonna be the one to do it for everybody.
  • 00:19:59
    And it's really about me.
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    And I wanna make sure, again, eye contact.
  • 00:20:02
    And the homily is well written and everything is... Okay.
  • 00:20:05
    Now it's, I go up to the altar of the Lord
  • 00:20:07
    and I ask that the Lord forgive me of my sins,
  • 00:20:09
    and I'm aware of my unworthiness and I shouldn't be here.
  • 00:20:11
    And then when I kiss the altar, again, I'm aware,
  • 00:20:14
    and it tells me everything that I'm supposed to do.
  • 00:20:17
    So it's nothing about me and everything about God.
  • 00:20:23
    - It was the moment of the consecration.
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    For the first time in my life.
  • 00:20:27
    You know, I said them many times in English,
  • 00:20:30
    but it was very emotional.
  • 00:20:32
    I could hardly say the words.
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    And you're whispering, so you didn't have to
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    have a lot of volume.
  • 00:20:38
    But I could hardly do that.
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    I mean, it was choking me up.
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    - The priest whispers the words
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    of consecration over the host, over the chalice.
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    And then the bell pierces the silence.
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    And you see the host,
  • 00:20:52
    and then you see the chalice lifted up.
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    And for me, that is the moment in the Mass
  • 00:20:58
    where I feel in my heart
  • 00:20:59
    and in my gut, Jesus is here and he died for me.
  • 00:21:05
    - And we're incarnational people.
  • 00:21:06
    We learn by the actions that we do.
  • 00:21:08
    And so in the Latin Mass, if you bring your five year old
  • 00:21:12
    or your seven year old or your nine year old there,
  • 00:21:14
    and they have to kneel down
  • 00:21:15
    and receive, they're gonna know
  • 00:21:17
    this isn't just blessed bread.
  • 00:21:18
    They're gonna know this is somebody, not something.
  • 00:21:27
    - Kids couldn't see anything,
  • 00:21:28
    and half the Mass is silent.
  • 00:21:31
    And I had no idea what's going on.
  • 00:21:33
    I thought, is my veil staying on?
  • 00:21:35
    And Maximilian, who was eight at the time, said, mom,
  • 00:21:39
    does God like that Mass more?
  • 00:21:41
    I said, what do you think?
  • 00:21:43
    He goes, well, I felt Him there.
  • 00:21:46
    - The Latin phrase, Lex Orandi, Lex Credendi,
  • 00:21:49
    there's no way we will believe
  • 00:21:52
    rightly if we don't worship rightly.
  • 00:21:55
    The two support each other.
  • 00:21:56
    But it begins with the liturgy.
  • 00:21:57
    So the way we worship is the way we believe.
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    There's no question about that.
  • 00:22:01
    Mother Theresa often said, if your prayer life is right,
  • 00:22:05
    the rest of your life will be perfectly all right.
  • 00:22:09
    By prayer life, she meant interior prayer,
  • 00:22:11
    but also liturgical prayer.
  • 00:22:13
    If your prayer life is authentic
  • 00:22:16
    and orthodox, then everything else will be orthodox.
  • 00:22:32
    - So our first experience again was mid-July of 2019.
  • 00:22:36
    And then September 13th, it was Friday the 13th.
  • 00:22:39
    He was at work in a meeting and he had a seizure.
  • 00:22:43
    I, hands down, thought it was stress.
  • 00:22:45
    We had just moved.
  • 00:22:47
    He had just moved brokerage firms.
  • 00:22:50
    We were supposed to be adopting a baby
  • 00:22:51
    in just six weeks after that.
  • 00:22:52
    That weekend, I was supposed to go out and buy a crib.
  • 00:22:55
    And the ER doctor came back,
  • 00:23:01
    and said that they found a mass on his brain.
  • 00:23:04
    And they said the word glioblastoma.
  • 00:23:06
    And I had never heard that word before in my life.
  • 00:23:09
    And I did what anybody does, and I Googled it,
  • 00:23:11
    and the first thing that comes up is
  • 00:23:13
    glioblastoma life expectancy.
  • 00:23:15
    12 months.
  • 00:23:18
    And so I just,
  • 00:23:22
    I just lost it on the hospital floor hallway.
  • 00:23:30
    I mean, this beautiful man who was sitting in bed
  • 00:23:34
    and he was laughing.
  • 00:23:36
    And he's like, oh no, everything will be fine.
  • 00:23:38
    And that was just his, you know,
  • 00:23:41
    everything was an adventure.
  • 00:23:42
    Everything was going to be fine.
  • 00:23:44
    And
  • 00:23:47
    - [Child] Daddy.
  • 00:23:48
    - Missed you guys.
  • 00:23:49
    Dad, I love you so much.
  • 00:23:50
    Merry Christmas.
  • 00:23:52
    Can we play dolls together?
  • 00:23:54
    Love, Lola.
  • 00:23:55
    I would love to play dolls.
  • 00:23:57
    - I'm not taking a picture.
  • 00:23:58
    - Why?
  • 00:23:59
    - I'm taking a video.
  • 00:24:01
    - Oh.
  • 00:24:03
    - [Child] Daddy look at it.
  • 00:24:05
    - I'm looking for red.
  • 00:24:06
    - 14 years,
  • 00:24:09
    - I love you.
  • 00:24:10
    - I love you.
  • 00:24:13
    I'm still unpacking it.
  • 00:24:15
    I'm still just unpacking that time of picnics every night
  • 00:24:19
    with the kids up in the bedroom,
  • 00:24:21
    and me putting my feet on the hospital bed
  • 00:24:23
    and reading a book for an hour
  • 00:24:24
    while the kids ate and played.
  • 00:24:26
    And Michael slept.
  • 00:24:27
    And our rosary every night.
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    And to take care of him.
  • 00:24:34
    Honor him for all the times that I didn't.
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    [14th Wedding Anniversary Blessing]
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    - I mean, Michael was such a humble, servant man that
  • 00:25:08
    oftentimes when I said, let's go right, we'd go right,
  • 00:25:11
    even if going left was better.
  • 00:25:15
    It was my turn to follow him.
  • 00:25:18
    And I know that if I told him to stay,
  • 00:25:20
    that he would've hung on.
  • 00:25:22
    So I just, we just followed him.
  • 00:25:46
    And after Michael died,
  • 00:25:50
    being there was a refuge
  • 00:25:56
    from this crazy, scary world.
  • 00:25:59
    And it's the place I can just lay the cross down
  • 00:26:02
    for a little bit.
  • 00:26:05
    Gosh, I don't know. I ask the kids, I say,
  • 00:26:08
    where would we be without this?
  • 00:26:09
    I don't know.
  • 00:26:10
    I think I just need this solid foundation.
  • 00:26:13
    That's what tradition is.
  • 00:26:14
    Tradition is another word for a solid foundation.
  • 00:26:44
    - I pray that you can lead us all to Heaven
  • 00:26:46
    and not endure the pains of Purgatory.
  • 00:26:48
    And especially Hell.
  • 00:26:49
    I also pray for all the souls in Purgatory.
  • 00:26:54
    - Lord I pray for mommy, daddy, and my siblings,
  • 00:26:56
    that we have a great day today
  • 00:26:58
    that we have a more wonderful day tomorrow.
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    And Jesus, I pray for that daddy can resurrect.
  • 00:27:06
    - Avila, what should we meditate
  • 00:27:08
    upon in this mystery?
  • 00:27:09
    - We should meditate on
  • 00:27:13
    how Jesus was so scared.
  • 00:27:16
    And we can pray for comfort.
  • 00:27:22
    - God's grace is promised you.
  • 00:27:26
    Do you see that?
  • 00:27:26
    What's that?
  • 00:27:30
    You have your scapular...
  • 00:27:31
    - Scapular, a medal, and --
  • 00:27:33
    - The miraculous medal.
  • 00:27:34
    And a rosary, yeah.
  • 00:27:36
    - See mommy's wearing her scapular
  • 00:27:37
    and I have my miraculous medal,
  • 00:27:40
    - But you don't have your rosary.
  • 00:27:41
    - But we just prayed the rosary.
  • 00:27:42
    So check, check, check, check.
  • 00:27:44
    - We actually pray a rosary every day.
  • 00:27:46
    - Okay?
  • 00:27:47
    - Good night.
  • 00:27:48
    - Love you so much.
  • 00:27:52
    I love you so much, okay?
  • 00:27:54
    - Two kisses, two hugs?
  • 00:27:55
    - Okay.
  • 00:27:58
    Hug, hug.
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    Good night.
  • 00:28:01
    - Good night.
  • 00:28:02
    - Good night.
  • 00:28:13
    - [Sheen] When that split second of judgment comes,
  • 00:28:20
    what will it be like?
  • 00:28:24
    It'll be an evaluation of ourselves just as we really are.
  • 00:28:30
    Then, what are we, really?
  • 00:28:36
    We are what we are
  • 00:28:38
    not by our emotions, our feelings, our likes and dislikes...
  • 00:28:44
    but by our choices,
  • 00:28:51
    Our judgment will be based not on our social position,
  • 00:28:59
    but on the way we lived.
  • 00:29:02
    On the choices we made.
  • 00:29:06
    On the things we loved.
  • 00:31:43
    - The Eucharist, transubstantiation, is a diamond.
  • 00:31:47
    And a diamond can be anywhere.
  • 00:31:50
    It has the same value.
  • 00:31:51
    But when you place that diamond in a setting by someone
  • 00:31:54
    who really knows how to create a proper setting,
  • 00:31:56
    it allows the light to move through it.
  • 00:31:59
    It brings out certain features of it.
  • 00:32:00
    But that setting is the liturgy.
  • 00:32:02
    And it makes it sparkle.
  • 00:32:03
    It makes it shine.
  • 00:32:04
    It makes us appreciate the diamond, the value.
  • 00:32:09
    And I think when you dole that down,
  • 00:32:12
    the diamond doesn't change.
  • 00:32:13
    The diamond's always a diamond,
  • 00:32:15
    but you maybe don't appreciate it as much.
  • 00:32:17
    And maybe you don't see the qualities
  • 00:32:19
    and the magnificence of that diamond.
  • 00:32:20
    And I think, you know, people who go back
  • 00:32:23
    to their traditional Latin Mass,
  • 00:32:25
    it's still the transubstantiation,
  • 00:32:26
    is still the Eucharist.
  • 00:32:27
    But we see it in a new setting, in a new light.
  • 00:32:30
    And I think that does strengthen our faith.
  • 00:32:33
    It really does.
  • 00:32:35
    - In talking to listeners as I do for three hours a day,
  • 00:32:40
    it's people who are in their twenties and thirties,
  • 00:32:43
    raising families.
  • 00:32:44
    And a commonality is, you know,
  • 00:32:47
    how come nobody ever told me about this?
  • 00:32:49
    Why didn't I know about this?
  • 00:32:50
    And, you know, I can understand why,
  • 00:32:52
    because it's like, in many ways the best kept secret
  • 00:32:56
    of the Catholic Church.
  • 00:32:58
    And in an era of profound ambiguity,
  • 00:33:02
    almost weaponized ambiguity, as others have said,
  • 00:33:06
    with tradition comes clarity.
  • 00:33:10
    And clarity produces in somebody who's open to it,
  • 00:33:15
    a change of heart.
  • 00:33:16
    If you have clarity, people have to make a decision.
  • 00:33:20
    Will I follow Jesus?
  • 00:33:21
    Will I follow the world?
  • 00:33:23
    - What young people want when they go to a church
  • 00:33:26
    is not to find more of the world.
  • 00:33:28
    We have a lot of the world.
  • 00:33:29
    I'm in the world, man.
  • 00:33:31
    I see it a lot, okay?
  • 00:33:32
    What we want is to leave the world.
  • 00:33:35
    We want an experience that elevates us up to heaven,
  • 00:33:38
    which you get in its fullest expression, I think,
  • 00:33:41
    liturgically speaking, in the traditional Latin Mass,
  • 00:33:45
    - I've gone through lots of Catholic cathedrals in Europe,
  • 00:33:48
    and of course there's stunning creations.
  • 00:33:50
    But I think that the Catholicism,
  • 00:33:52
    that's as sane as people can get.
  • 00:33:55
    We need a metaphysic,
  • 00:33:57
    a narrative metaphysic to hold us together.
  • 00:34:00
    And it has to be predicated on something
  • 00:34:03
    that's transcendent and absolute.
  • 00:34:05
    - I was never an atheist.
  • 00:34:06
    I was always an agnostic.
  • 00:34:09
    I always had a belief, but I never had like a connection.
  • 00:34:12
    Latin Mass gave me something where I felt connected.
  • 00:34:15
    That was my first in-road to Pio, was...
  • 00:34:18
    Okay, that Mass is an immersive experience.
  • 00:34:21
    He's fully involved.
  • 00:34:22
    His Mass was very different
  • 00:34:24
    than other Masses that were performed.
  • 00:34:26
    Latin Mass affects me deeply.
  • 00:34:28
    Deeply.
  • 00:34:29
    - How come?
  • 00:34:30
    - Because it's not being done to sell me on anything.
  • 00:34:34
    And it feels almost like
  • 00:34:36
    I'm being let in on something very special.
  • 00:34:38
    I would also say that there's certain language
  • 00:34:40
    where I don't need to know the words.
  • 00:34:42
    - Yeah.
  • 00:34:43
    - Which is what I feel when I watch Pio's Mass.
  • 00:34:45
    I know what's going on, I feel it deeply.
  • 00:34:47
    It almost feels more powerful
  • 00:34:48
    than when I know every single word.
  • 00:34:50
    - If it becomes too obvious, too rationalized,
  • 00:34:54
    too "hey everybody, look, here's what's going on",
  • 00:34:56
    then it does take something away.
  • 00:34:58
    From the experience, the mystique of it
  • 00:35:01
    - [Announcer] For the lead.
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    - Butker! Up! Got it!
  • 00:35:10
    - What is it you get out of the Latin Mass?
  • 00:35:13
    - It's opened my eyes to the tradition of the faith,
  • 00:35:15
    you know, with Saint Augustine, with Thomas Aquinas,
  • 00:35:17
    with all of these great saints,
  • 00:35:19
    and then seeing that this Mass of the Roman Rite,
  • 00:35:22
    the Latin Mass has been the Mass for the past 1500 years
  • 00:35:24
    that all these great saints went to.
  • 00:35:26
    They were saying the same Latin prayers.
  • 00:35:27
    They're just very beautiful.
  • 00:35:28
    You know, I feel very united.
  • 00:35:31
    - And you walk into a Latin Mass,
  • 00:35:33
    and the ladies with the veil and their kids,
  • 00:35:35
    and everybody's beautifully dressed
  • 00:35:36
    and everybody's quiet.
  • 00:35:37
    Like in fighting.
  • 00:35:38
    Like, if I learn a certain submission move
  • 00:35:40
    and it always works, why would I not use that anymore?
  • 00:35:43
    Go with something else that maybe might not work.
  • 00:35:45
    No, I wanna go with the best possible solution.
  • 00:35:55
    And that's what I like.
  • 00:35:56
    I like authenticity, you know, like, I wanna please Him.
  • 00:35:59
    I don't need to please anybody else.
  • 00:36:01
    That's the guy I wanna please.
  • 00:36:08
    - Unless you experience the transcendent God
  • 00:36:11
    in right worship, then you really are not drawn
  • 00:36:16
    fully into the mystery.
  • 00:36:19
    I think that you will not stay
  • 00:36:22
    unless you know you grow in that love for the Mass.
  • 00:36:27
    The Mass is everything for Catholics.
  • 00:36:31
    - The goal of the liturgy is not to evangelize.
  • 00:36:33
    The goal of the liturgy is to worship God.
  • 00:36:36
    But people are evangelized when they see that experience
  • 00:36:38
    of God being worshiped.
  • 00:36:39
    We have atheists and satanists
  • 00:36:41
    and people who wandered into the church,
  • 00:36:45
    and they may not know anything about the Catholic faith,
  • 00:36:47
    but something draws them there.
  • 00:36:49
    And because there's an experience
  • 00:36:50
    of something bigger than themselves.
  • 00:36:53
    Today, the parish has over 2000 families,
  • 00:36:56
    and probably eight choirs.
  • 00:36:58
    A religious order of 24 priests and brothers.
  • 00:37:01
    And the church went from being the most broken church
  • 00:37:05
    in the city of Chicago
  • 00:37:06
    to being what was named
  • 00:37:07
    the most beautiful church in America.
  • 00:37:11
    - We judge a tree by its fruits,
  • 00:37:13
    and I found that tree being the traditional liturgy.
  • 00:37:16
    And when we look at the numbers,
  • 00:37:19
    who the church are filled with,
  • 00:37:21
    and we see among traditional communities in places
  • 00:37:24
    where the traditional Mass is being celebrated,
  • 00:37:25
    we see a lot of young families,
  • 00:37:28
    lots of baptisms, lots of conversions.
  • 00:37:46
    - Why would we want to be anthropocentric
  • 00:37:48
    and communal, first and foremost, and not be theocentric
  • 00:37:52
    and focus as a community upon the glory
  • 00:37:55
    and the majesty of God?
  • 00:37:56
    Nothing will form a community that is tighter
  • 00:38:00
    and more devout and will become holy,
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    more than being God-centered.
  • 00:38:08
    - It is when you kneel quietly
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    and you watch a miracle take place.
  • 00:38:13
    When you forget about you,
  • 00:38:15
    and you're focused on a miracle.
  • 00:38:17
    That is the greatest peace
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    that you are going to find here on earth.
  • 00:38:29
    - The way that I have been able to reorder my life
  • 00:38:33
    as a woman and a mother has come from
  • 00:38:34
    traditional Catholicism.
  • 00:38:36
    The way that my children have so much peace
  • 00:38:38
    and joy is from traditional Catholicism.
  • 00:38:41
    It's not like I have Mass over here
  • 00:38:44
    and I'm just going to the Latin Mass
  • 00:38:45
    and my life is the same.
  • 00:38:46
    It has completely radically transformed
  • 00:38:49
    every aspect of our lives.
  • 00:38:51
    It is a liturgy and a way of life
  • 00:38:55
    that breeds incredible peace and freedom.
  • 00:39:07
    - Ow, you're hurting me.
  • 00:39:08
    - Someone's gonna end up in the water.
  • 00:39:11
    - [All] Yay!
  • 00:39:36
    - Then what's your question?
  • 00:39:37
    - [Woman] My question is what went so awry
  • 00:39:41
    after the Vatican II?
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